WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Shedeur Sanders Falling, Matt Miller

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our two on this Thursday. And this might be

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<v Speaker 2>the second best crowd we've had this week, top to

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<v Speaker 2>top two easily the uh you see, yeah, see Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>We've only done it two days, that's the second second. No,

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<v Speaker 2>this crowd is great today. This this crowd is great

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on delay, you know. I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're missing we're missing something therefore we did we did not.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're trying to figure out what they just

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<v Speaker 3>witnessed with Todd. And yeah, there's still a certain amount

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<v Speaker 3>of like shock.

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<v Speaker 2>So Todd got up and did some stand up as

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<v Speaker 2>he had some jokes about green Bay. Would you like

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<v Speaker 2>to uh recap some of the uh say, the high notes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there were very very sympathetic general

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<v Speaker 2>And I do want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank them for not taking it too seriously and having

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<v Speaker 4>a sense of humor a bat, because it's just like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't apologize to open up your act. You just do

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<v Speaker 2>your ass.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm mister sensitive and I want everybody to like me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just thought that somebody be like, what the

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<v Speaker 4>ex is problem with green Bay? Why are you even

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<v Speaker 4>here there, and I didn't want I didn't want that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That imitation should help your reputation with these people too.

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<v Speaker 6>Go back to New York or Away or Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Boy, Joe Boy. All right, give us give the

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<v Speaker 2>audience a sample. If they're just joining us right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So some of the things I had mentioned in

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<v Speaker 4>my performed intificant cal no, no, just I'll just get right

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<v Speaker 4>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Trip Advisor has a list of the fifteen best things

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<v Speaker 4>to do in Green Bay. That seems a bit ambitious

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<v Speaker 4>to me. I saw lambeau Field. I think I'm good

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<v Speaker 4>and ready to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I moved to Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 4>Just learned from my guesstormentrologists that I'm lactose intolerant. With

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<v Speaker 4>this aversion to dairy products, I guess I have to

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<v Speaker 4>move away from here now because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>dairy products here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you don't, so he has to move Oh, okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>because dairy anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Ordered a frozen tundra of the dairy Queen down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>But they were not particularly amused by that, as that's

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<v Speaker 4>my little joke for I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the line. I like, yeah, I did. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Paul, he doesn't pause for a laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he knows. It's not not to expect, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's like, why wait if you know it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to show up. They're upset over this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it wrong that I prefer a bag of cheese

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<v Speaker 4>doodles over cheese curds?

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<v Speaker 2>Get that we had cheese curds last night? There it

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<v Speaker 2>is there, it is the cheese courge last night. They

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<v Speaker 2>were good.

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<v Speaker 7>Those were good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, these are just jokes. These aren't necessarily my personal

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<v Speaker 4>feelings about anything.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just to have fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I did like the cheese curds. Oh no major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 4>NBA or NHL. But hey there's always the single A Rockers,

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<v Speaker 4>that indoor football Blizzard team and oh yeah the four

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty eight college hoops team goes Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, that shot at Doug Gottlie is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I had here? If I desire inn't you

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<v Speaker 4>main freezing temperatures, I'd go to Alaska or the North

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<v Speaker 4>Pole wow, if I desire, who desires that's very cold,

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<v Speaker 4>and what bless them they can get through that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody desires that kind of cold.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like jam it's seventy. I wish it was

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<v Speaker 2>minus seven. That's part of the experience of being a

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<v Speaker 2>green mess social media complaining Todd's jokes weren't cheesy enough.

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<v Speaker 8>Wa waka WALKA.

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<v Speaker 2>on Peacock, our streaming partner Basketball tonight. You got Nick Pistons.

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<v Speaker 2>Can my Pistons pull this off? Because I picked them

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<v Speaker 2>to beat the nixt the Thunder and the Grizzlies and

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets and Clippers, which has been really, really competitive. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Butler got banged up, and I don't know that'll certainly

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<v Speaker 2>impact this series with Houston as a Houston beat Golden

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<v Speaker 2>State and the draft tonight. Fifteen players in attendance, including

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<v Speaker 2>from what I'm told, Jalen Milroe. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's projected to be a first round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if somebody now. We just had Drew

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<v Speaker 2>Brees in here, and Drew said he was told by

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<v Speaker 2>his head coach from a scout with the Miami Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>if he was available at I think the twenty sixth pick,

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<v Speaker 2>they were taking him. So Drew's at home in West Lafayette.

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<v Speaker 2>He had gone to Purdue, so he's there with his brother,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and his dad and his dog. So all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he's gone, all right, and the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>are on the clock. And Drew said that he was

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<v Speaker 2>reaching for his phone because he thought, well, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to draft me, and then they didn't draft, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes in the second round. You get players who

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you that a team will tell them, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're there, we are going to take you. But Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah says, with all certainty, the Browns are taking Travis Hunter,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is a great decision for them, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it gives them some real positivity for a change.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you put Abdul Carter with Miles Garrett, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be terror, sheer terror for a quarterback. But you do

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<v Speaker 2>need something on offense. If Joe Flacco's your quarterback, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to have somebody to throw to there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that leaves the Giants at three. And I

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<v Speaker 2>started to look at this when we start to do

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<v Speaker 2>these mock drafts. So if you go back to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, so the big names in college football the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks Shador Sanders, Carson Beck, Quin Yours, Drew Alar and Jylem. Milroe.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Ward was buried on the odds board at plus

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred, a dark horse at best. So now fast

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<v Speaker 2>forward and you got cam Ward's going number one. Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>might not even go in the top fifteen. Beck transferred

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<v Speaker 2>to Miami, Alar is back at Penn State, and Milroe

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<v Speaker 2>is projected to be a Day two prospect. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a knock on these players as much as it

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<v Speaker 2>is the system that creates this, and that is everybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants a mock draft. There'll be a mock draft coming

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<v Speaker 2>up for next year, probably released tomorrow after today, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get ahead of this. Well, what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>these players get elevated or they know they're not even

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<v Speaker 2>put in the first three rounds, and all that's based

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<v Speaker 2>on is what happened last year. You still have a

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<v Speaker 2>season coming up. But the mock draft, everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be ahead of the curve and say this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to happen. I remember when we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the first mock draft and it had Carson

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<v Speaker 2>Beck and I didn't think he was a good quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>at all, and they were saying, well, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a first round pick, now, Quinn, you weers. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the talent there, but Beck transferred to Miami after

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<v Speaker 2>being at Georgia. So a lot of times we fall

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<v Speaker 2>in love with these guys, we think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be great, and then they don't turn out to be great,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we blame them when they didn't. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>slot themselves, they didn't take a draft them, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes that's unfair to these kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Pauling and the mock drafts, I'm talking the real

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<v Speaker 6>ones on ESPN, NFL Network, Fox. They can often be

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<v Speaker 6>way off just weeks before the draft two weeks before

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<v Speaker 6>Cam Newton's draft. He was in the fifteens and twenties

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<v Speaker 6>in most mock drafts. I look back at the Baker

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<v Speaker 6>Mayfield draft. Remember you came in that one day and

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<v Speaker 6>said he's going number one. A week before you said that,

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<v Speaker 6>there had him at ten to fifteen, ten to twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Where he's going to go, Will Levis, you could find

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<v Speaker 6>just a couple of years ago out of Kentucky there's

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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of mock drafts that have him in the

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<v Speaker 6>top ten picks. And he goes in the second round.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is not six months before, this is two

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<v Speaker 6>to three weeks before.

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<v Speaker 2>I always find Chris Simms and Dan Orlovsky are two

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<v Speaker 2>of the best at analyzing quarterbacks. Chris Sims is great.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he was ahead of the curve on a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these quarterbacks, including Lamar Jackson. But he has no agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like you know, you listen to agents. He

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<v Speaker 2>just says, I just break down the tape here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where. And I remember watching Orlovsky on

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<v Speaker 2>the mother Ship and he was breaking down Tennessee's quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, he's gone. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like certain things, and next thing you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>are falling in love with him, and then you know

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<v Speaker 2>he starts to slip a little bit. Now they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>cam Ward because maybe he's not a starting quarterback. It's

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<v Speaker 2>weird that you spend that's your job, these draft these scouts,

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<v Speaker 2>that's their job. I got to analyze you, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you got to go back and tell your team that's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy we want to take, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden you whiff, Like how many how many guys

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<v Speaker 2>you have just whiffed? When it comes to now, we

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<v Speaker 2>always blame the player as a bust. You never here

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<v Speaker 2>that scout's a bust, that GM's a bust. It's that

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<v Speaker 2>player is a bust, and it's not fair to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But like Ryan leif he's considered one of the biggest busts,

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<v Speaker 2>or JaMarcus Russell, if you didn't do your homework on

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<v Speaker 2>JaMarcus Russell, that's on you because he didn't love football.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Leaf had some other issues in play there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>even Johnny Manziel, if you did your homework and ask

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<v Speaker 2>the right people the right questions, then you never would

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<v Speaker 2>have taken Johnny Manziel. That's what's unique about the draft

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes we overthink it and then you see teams

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<v Speaker 2>start to panic and somebody's going to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>clock tonight and you're gonna go, oh, no, what did

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<v Speaker 2>they just do? Yes, Mark, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Think the scariest part about being a scout or GM

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<v Speaker 9>is if you draft, say a wide receiver, and he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't pan out, and the next wide receiver taking is

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<v Speaker 9>killing it, and the owner and everyone else is looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At you like what happened.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, It's almost like the CJ. Stroud Bryce Young situation. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sure the owner of the Panthers it's probably like, so,

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<v Speaker 9>what's going on, guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's where you know the owners obviously the smartest

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<v Speaker 2>football guy in the building, just to ask him. That's

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<v Speaker 2>when you get in trouble because Jerry Jones has done this,

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<v Speaker 2>The Browns owner has done this, has them where all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden you just bigfoot people. So these guys

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<v Speaker 2>have gathered all this information, that's their job, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden the owner goes, uh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take Bryce Young, but uh, we're taking Bryce Young? What

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<v Speaker 2>do we We're taking Bryce Young? Yes?

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<v Speaker 10>Mar.

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<v Speaker 9>The thing about Jerry Jones is he thinks he's a

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<v Speaker 9>football guy because he played at Arkansas all these other

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<v Speaker 9>guys business guys. He was a football player that ended

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<v Speaker 9>up becoming a billionaire. So he's probably like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a football guy too. I played with Jimmy Johnson.

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<v Speaker 9>I deserve a bunch of credit too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, Jimmy Johnson played with Jerry Jones. Yeah, yes, bully,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Marvin was saying about wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 6>If you go back to the twenty twenty draft, there's

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<v Speaker 6>this great video you could find all of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 6>It's of the Vikings war room during the draft and

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<v Speaker 6>they're waiting to see if h Justin Jefferson of LS,

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<v Speaker 6>who's gonna fall to them. At the twenty second pick,

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<v Speaker 6>and one pick earlier, the Eagles take Jalen Rager out

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<v Speaker 6>of TCU and they have a celebration like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>and they run the pick up with Justin Jefferson, who's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be a Hall of Famer. But taken before

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<v Speaker 6>Justin Jefferson, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy, Ceedee Lamb. Judy and

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<v Speaker 6>Lamb have good careers Jalen Rager and then Justin Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's one team and what they see with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy and what another team se sees with the guy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, did they not see Justin Jefferson at LSU, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>the greatest offense ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Am miss was happening something I don't know. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>thought Joe Burrow made him great. Jam Chase happened to

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<v Speaker 2>something I know. I know. Once again, it's Io the Beholder. Yeah, Pale, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think what happens when guys are around so long they're

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<v Speaker 6>taken for granted or something. Go back to the Deshaun

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<v Speaker 6>Watson draft. Now, I know he's had off the field issues,

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<v Speaker 6>but as a quarterback he was awesome college. He was

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<v Speaker 6>just awesome, And like, now let's go Trubisky, let's go blank,

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go blank. And he drops to a ten or

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<v Speaker 6>eleven in that draft.

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<v Speaker 2>James in Virginia, Hi James, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh? Thank you for taking my car, gentlemen. I Happy Thursday,

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<v Speaker 7>DP damn that Saluti commanders to Happy draft day guys,

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<v Speaker 7>and shout out to the green Bay fans man, the

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<v Speaker 7>frozen Tundra, lambeau Field, and the Greenberg puckers. Oh that

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<v Speaker 7>is so great, man, I love it. Drive day makes

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<v Speaker 7>me so happy. Man, I don't buy the height, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>dor Standers is going. Top ten quarterbacks are gold in

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<v Speaker 7>the NFL. Just see Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 7>of twenty twenty four. Speaking of the Commanders, two player

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<v Speaker 7>that I hope they grabbed. And I can't believe I'm

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<v Speaker 7>saying it because I'm a gold blue guy. But man

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<v Speaker 7>a Mecca A Buka and Treyvon Henderson, to me, are

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<v Speaker 7>two guys that can compete for offense ve Rookie of

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<v Speaker 7>the Year. I don't understand how a Buka is not

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<v Speaker 7>a top fifteen picks, especially when Ohio State. Again, horrible

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<v Speaker 7>to say, but they are wide receiver. You so many

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<v Speaker 7>great wide receivers in the NFL come out of Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope one of them is in the Burgundy and goals.

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<v Speaker 7>Can't wait to see what a tonight guys. Hope you

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<v Speaker 7>guys have a great day. Always good talking. Salute the commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Jeeves. I think he did that on one breath.

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<v Speaker 2>But James in Virginia, he loves his commanders. Salute the commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Dustin and Alabama. Hi, Dustin, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 11>For taking my call brother rollside and do that salute

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<v Speaker 11>the Farah Pirates. Yeah, that's okay. Though I grew up

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<v Speaker 11>in a little down called Barah of Alabama. Also the

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<v Speaker 11>alma mater one Riley Leonard. I got a pile of

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<v Speaker 11>the faith bet that came to me yesterday just passing.

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<v Speaker 10>Mine in his high school.

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<v Speaker 11>That I've got this feeling that Riley's getting kind of overlooked.

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<v Speaker 11>I think he'll get drafted in the top two rounds

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<v Speaker 11>and I also think he will somehow, one way or another,

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<v Speaker 11>get a start in the NFL next season.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, does anybody want a piece of dustin in Alabama?

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<v Speaker 2>That Riley Leonard, the Notre Dame quarterback. Actually, we have

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<v Speaker 2>his Panini trading card up on the wall here. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's a sign, I guess, Paul.

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<v Speaker 6>I will take that bet. I'm not anti Riley Leonard,

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<v Speaker 6>but he will not go before the third round.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Dustin, you got a pie to the

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<v Speaker 2>face bet. Thanks Polly, appreciate it. Tom and Tennessee. Hi, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? You mentioned Derrick Brooks. In that same draft we

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<v Speaker 5>got Warren set By trading down, so we got two

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of famers out of that draft and Harry Gamble,

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<v Speaker 5>the GM of the Eagles. I thank him for taking

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<v Speaker 5>Mike Mamula, and I thank Jerry Jones for making the

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<v Speaker 5>trade that led to Derrick Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, john Yeah, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of draft day trades there. Now, Herschel Walker wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>draft day trade, but he did set up the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when that trade. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>moments was when Mike did go I think Ditka wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go play golf, and he just gave up all

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<v Speaker 2>of his draft picks to take Ricky Williams, and he

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<v Speaker 2>met with the media smoking his cigar, and it was basically,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you guys done asking questions. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>play golf. He didn't want to put up with a draft,

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<v Speaker 2>so he traded all of his picks and he took

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Williams, who turned out to be at times a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good running back, but he just wasn't committed to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. But when was herschel When was that trade

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<v Speaker 2>done with Jimmy Johnson.

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<v Speaker 6>That was October twelfth, nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Also during the season. Yeah, but boy, that set up

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, this is where Jimmy Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>was such a genius. He was so far ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody because of how he valued certain draft picks, certain rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, putting a number on that. And now everybody

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<v Speaker 2>does that. But but Jimmy was so far ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>the curve. Him and Bill Walsh. You know, you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about we like to throw genius around, and Bill Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>was a genius with what he did offensively, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jimmy, Jimmy structurally, what he did with the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>it you know, carried them for I mean, Barry Switzer

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<v Speaker 2>won a Super Bowl with Jimmy's talent. That's how good

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy was. Yes, Pauline.

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<v Speaker 6>With the Hall that the Cowboys got in that trade,

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<v Speaker 6>they drafted players such as EMMITTT. Smith, Darren Woodson, Russell Maryland.

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<v Speaker 6>They also acquired three defenders who started for the next

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<v Speaker 6>few years from the Minnesota BC. Yeah, Herschel was a

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<v Speaker 6>very nice player.

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 6>He was not Emmett Smith, No, he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not. All right, let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Miller will join us ESPN. NFL draft analyst Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>Warner stops by Daniel Jeremiah will join us as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back right after this on the Dan Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to more phone calls coming up each seven

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<v Speaker 2>to seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Just some weird numbers when it comes to draft. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as far as quarterbacks go, and Drew Brees

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<v Speaker 2>was the thirty second pick overall back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and one, so he finished with five hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>one career touchdown passes. The rest of that draft in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one combined for two hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>nine touchdown passes. Also, Brees had two hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>three interceptions. The rest of the draft had two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty seven. Then you have let me see Kurt Warner.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kurt Warner was undrafted. He'll join us coming up

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<v Speaker 2>next hour. He had two hundred and eight career touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 2>more than any other player selected in that draft. You

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<v Speaker 2>had guys like Gus Farott. Remember Gus Arott when he

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<v Speaker 2>slammed his head into the he scored a touchdown and

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<v Speaker 2>then he hurt himself. Trent Dilfer was in that draft,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Miller, Heath Schuler, Glenn Foley, Doug Nussmeyer. So Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>Warner had two hundred and eight career touchdown passes. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that the fewest touchdown passes for a Hall of Fame court? Well, No,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know about.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Troy Aikman has won sixty five career touchdown passes. Wow,

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<v Speaker 6>But because he would have like fifteen and seven in

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<v Speaker 6>a year, but they'd win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>think I'll check. I think one sixty five or Kurt Warner.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Bart Starr or thinks in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking, since you know, seventy five, but checking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I remember Bart Starr. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>had twenty touchdown passes, I mean you were a mad

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<v Speaker 2>bomber because everybody was running the football and then you'd throw.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd throw like fifteen times a game. Now you get

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<v Speaker 2>that one quarter, Yes, Paul.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's a few guys that are I got one sixty

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<v Speaker 6>five for Troy Aikman, that was right. Roger Staubach as

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and fifty three. He started his career about

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<v Speaker 6>four years late. To be fair to Stabach. Sid Luckman

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<v Speaker 6>won thirty seven. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Sid Luckman was playing, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifties. Oh no, I don't know if he was

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<v Speaker 2>so we rated back then, he was great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think in modern ear are the lowest would be traitement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Sammy Baugh and those guys. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how many touchdown passes they were throwing. How many does

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<v Speaker 2>Bart Starr have? Checking? Checking? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, yes, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mentioned Bob Greasy Hall of Famer nineteen ninety one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and ninety two TDS.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, that's fine, all right, let's bring in

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Miller. He covers the draft, he gets paid to

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<v Speaker 2>cover the draft, he covers every pick, and ESPN covering

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<v Speaker 2>the draft for the forty sixth consecutive year. Matt will

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<v Speaker 2>be joining Rhys Davis, mel kiper Field, Yates, Lewis Riddick

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<v Speaker 2>beginning at noon Eastern for rounds four through seven. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Miller friend of the show, and we make way

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<v Speaker 2>for him. Come on in, Matt, it's up.

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<v Speaker 8>It's up.

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<v Speaker 2>Which cher closest to me? Man, looks like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas sweater that you got on. Or it's cold

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<v Speaker 2>out here? You know it's cold.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm just I don't leave home, so being outside it's

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<v Speaker 12>a little cold.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't cold. This is cold for me.

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<v Speaker 12>Where do you live. I live in southern Missouri. It's

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<v Speaker 12>like eighty degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but thank you. This is football weather.

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<v Speaker 12>Here, it's football weather. I've never been to Green Bay before,

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<v Speaker 12>so as a football nerd, this is I always said

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<v Speaker 12>I wouldn't come here until I came for a game

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<v Speaker 12>when it was cold out.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted the experience. Yeah, this is pretty close. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well this is Christmas for you.

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<v Speaker 12>It is yeah, it's like tax season plus Christmas altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>But how much pressure do you feel when you put

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<v Speaker 2>out a mock draft? This is your job. You're at

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<v Speaker 2>the mother Ship and trying to live up to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mel Kiper and everybody else that you I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you compete with, but you know you compliment each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd never thought of it like that. So now

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more pressure. Now.

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<v Speaker 12>I've never been like, oh, if I put this out

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<v Speaker 12>and it's not good, Kuiper is going to be like,

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<v Speaker 12>never mind, get that kid off my desk. But there

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<v Speaker 12>is pressure, I think obviously. You know I spent ten

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<v Speaker 12>years at Bleacher Report. That's even different than ESPN because

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<v Speaker 12>it's ESPN and you guys have been there. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>it's like everything you say is under a different microscope.

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<v Speaker 12>So there is a lot of pressure. With mock drafts.

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<v Speaker 12>You basically get to a point where you're never gonna

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<v Speaker 12>like it, but you just get comfortable with it. So

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<v Speaker 12>my last one came out yesterday afternoon, and I finally

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<v Speaker 12>sent it to the editors and was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 12>want to mess with this anymore. Let's just get it

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<v Speaker 12>out there because I could make picks. I could change

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<v Speaker 12>picks until tonight at six fifty five if I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 12>So at some point you just wash your hands of

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<v Speaker 12>it and hand it in.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the pick that could change the first round?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think Ashton gent going five to Jacksonville. But

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<v Speaker 12>I'll back up a little bit. I still think there's

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<v Speaker 12>a five percent chance Shador Sanders goes three to the Giants.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't feel great about it, and I wouldn't put

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<v Speaker 12>it in a mock draft because I think it's a

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<v Speaker 12>minute possibility. But you have to account for the fact

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 12>that an owner could hop in and say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 12>know what, take the quarterback here. So I think Chador

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 12>at three would shake up the draft, not that I

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<v Speaker 12>am expecting it, but Gent to Jacksonville five would be

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<v Speaker 12>a pretty big wild card.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like somebody's trading up. And my source

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 2>said that somebody's trading up, and he goes, who are

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 2>you trading up for? And he thought Genti's the only

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>guy who's sort of a wild card with this of

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>he's an impactful guy and we'd now, I guess, reassess

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the running back position and he's back. You know, when

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody says he's EMMITTT. Smith with speed. Okay, you got

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>my attention with that.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, And I do think in this class there's very

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 12>few blue chip players to where you could say, Okay,

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 12>we have Travis Hunter, we have Abdul Carter. The next

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 12>best player on my board is Ashton Genty. So thank you,

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 12>Sakwon Barkley. Now these running backs are being valued again,

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 12>and so I think there is that element of especially

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 12>if you think about Jacksonville, you have a first time

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.719
<v Speaker 12>general manager, first time head coach. You really want your

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 12>first pick to be a hit. I remember talking to

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.880
<v Speaker 12>Scott McLuhan about that when he took the Washington job.

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<v Speaker 2>The first pick needs to be a hit. They took

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Shirf who was a guard from Iowa. He played

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL for thirteen years. He was a really

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<v Speaker 2>good player for them.

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<v Speaker 12>So instead of swinging for the fences, sometimes you just

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 12>need that first pick to be a starter that you

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 12>can point to your owner and say, no, the guy

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 12>we picked, Look, he's out there every Sunday.

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>He's making an impact for us.

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<v Speaker 12>No one in this draft is going to make a

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 12>bigger Year one impact than Ashton Genty.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I know when you don't like a player

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 2>when you put him in your mock draft. Uh, that's

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a good question.

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<v Speaker 12>I think when you don't like a player, you probably

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.239
<v Speaker 12>talk about it's more about the projection of how they

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 12>could be good instead of here's how I know, like

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 12>when I talk about Abdul Carter, you get excited, you know,

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 12>you get energetic about what he.

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 2>Brings to the field.

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<v Speaker 12>When you talk about somebody you know, second round or

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 12>I would even say, I'm not the biggest Shdor Sanders fan,

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 12>and there's a difference when I talk about him, because

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<v Speaker 12>it's well, he could work if this happens, if he

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 12>gets in the right scheme, if he gets more where

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 12>they have a run game and he can live off

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 12>play action.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not a you know.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 12>He's not a big guy. He's not a traits guy.

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 12>He doesn't have the huge arm. So I think you

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 12>you start to talk yourself into it more when you

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 12>don't like a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just it's weird how we can look at

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<v Speaker 2>one positive but also make it a negative. When people go, man,

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 2>he's tough in the pocket, he takes hits, and then

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>you'll go, well, maybe if he got rid of the

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>ball sooner than he wouldn't take hold of those hits.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.479
<v Speaker 12>You would love him to be that tough and not

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 12>be sacked ninety five times if he could be that

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 12>tough and get sacked twenty times. And it's interesting because

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.959
<v Speaker 12>from an analytics standpoint, quarterbacks who are sacked a lot

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 12>in college get sacked a lot in the NFL, and

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 12>that's what we don't want. It is one of the stats,

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 12>along with fumbles, that actually translates really well from Saturdays

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 12>to Sunday. So you're right, it's like, we love his

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 12>toughness and that he's willing to stand in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 12>but at the same time, at six', one two hundred,

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<v Speaker 12>POUNDS i would much rather him get rid of the

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 12>ball on.

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<v Speaker 2>Time more likely to be a pro bowler or a? Bust,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure Door, Sanders oh, gosh that's.

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 12>Tough this is gonna get, CLIPPED i will, say more

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 12>likely to be a. Bust but can you be a

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 12>bust if you're picked at twenty one or thirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Three, well, well, okay what's the line of demarcation of

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you're a bust if you're taking in this? Era do

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:55.959
<v Speaker 2>we call?

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<v Speaker 12>IT i, Guess Canny, pickett we would call bust because

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 12>you were a quarterback in the first round and you're

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 12>not the. Starter so in that sense you would be a.

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<v Speaker 12>Bus but not in the sense, of you, Know JaMarcus

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<v Speaker 12>russell or Or Trey lance in terms of you, know a.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Bust SO i think there's levels to.

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<v Speaker 12>It you, know if you're drafted in the top ten

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<v Speaker 12>and you don't become a long term, starter that's obviously

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 12>a bad. Pick if he's drafted, it if someone trades

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<v Speaker 12>up and takes him at twenty six and he doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 12>out it's not AS i WOULDN'T i don't know THAT

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 12>i want to call that a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bust, okay but why don't we call scouts? Bust we,

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<v Speaker 2>should or GM's bus or draft.

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<v Speaker 12>Guys we should all take the. Heat, no, wait we absolutely.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 12>SHOULD i think the players don't draft. Themselves that's. It

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 12>i've made that point before. Too it's not the player's.

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 12>Fault they were, overdrafted you. Know if a player gets.

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 12>Drafted Trey lance is a good. Example it's not his.

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 12>Fault he was drafted at number three after playing one

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 12>game the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Before and how do you miss on you? Trade, okay

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>so this Is Kyle shanahan And John. Lynch, YEAH i,

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>mean how do you miss this? Badly you trade and you.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 12>You find Brock perty and everyone. Forgets, yes that's it.

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 12>Works if they didn't a Rock, perdy they would be.

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 12>Fired you think?

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 12>PROBABLY i mean it's tough Because kyle Is. KYLE i,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 12>mean HE'S nfl royalty to some, degree but probably because

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 12>what would be your answer at? Quarterback they might still

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 12>be Playing Trey lance at this. Point if Rock.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Perty was taken fifteenth instead of the last pick in the,

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<v Speaker 2>draft would we have any issues with paying him fifty

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>five million? DOLLARS i don't think.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 12>SO i think they would would be praised, as, oh

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 12>look they got. It you, know they've hit on this.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 12>Quarterback If, jones, yeah the narret would be completely, different

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 12>especially the fact that he's been to A Super, bowl

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 12>which that's Not that's something a lot of quarterbacks can't

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 12>say in this era that's been dominated By brady And.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 12>Mahomes so, YEAH i don't think anyone would be and

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 12>they probably would have paid him already had he been

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 12>drafted in, fifteen because you always carry that first round

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 12>tag with you if you're drafted in the first round

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 12>forever you were a first round.

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Pick He's Matt. Miller he's AN ESPN nfl draft. Analyst

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>he'll be working rounds four through seven with mel Kiper,

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Rhyese Davis, Field, yates And Lewis. Riddy give me the

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>mock draft that you're the proudest, of like you, know

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>where you had somebody and you could take a victory.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 12>LEFT i don't know IF i have. ONE i honestly

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 12>like mock. Drafts you get eight picks right and you

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 12>feel great about. YOURSELF i think two years, AGO i

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 12>THINK i hit like nine of the nine picks in

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 12>a row to start the. Draft but that just means

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 12>it was an unpre like it was a predictable. Draft

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 12>it's very. Chalky, yeah one, YEAR i want to do.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 12>IT i want to go with the betting odds and

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 12>do the mock draft and see how right it would.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 12>Be BUT i also know that those lines change based

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 12>off mock, draft so it might be you, know exercise and.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 12>Futility but with mock, DRAFTS i mean it is truly

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 12>if you Get if you get ten or, eleven that's

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 12>a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Year have you had agents try to massage you a

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>little bit?

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 12>There WITH i mean, NO i think because you, KNOW

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 12>i broke into this industry WHEN i was really, young

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 12>and SO I i think more SO i have agents

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 12>who feel like they can call me and tell me

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 12>how WRONG i am and how DUMB i, am instead

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 12>of you, KNOW i think with some of the guys

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 12>who you were in the league and then came to

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 12>the media, Side i'm Sure kuyper doesn't get called by

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 12>agents who, say you're an. Idiot this guy's gonna go

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 12>first round and you have him in the. Second agents

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 12>are funny, though because they will do that until this,

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 12>week and then they'll call and, say, so where do

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 12>you think my guy's gonna? Go, say you, know they

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 12>want to know the draft range this. Week last, week

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 12>you were an idiot for having their player in the

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 12>second or third.

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Round this, Week, hey what are you hearing about my?

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Player so it's you to. Take why Is Jaln milroe

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>invited to the? Draft that is a great.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 12>QUESTION i don't think it's because he's going to be picked,

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 12>tonight as fascinating as he is as a. PLAYER i

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 12>reminded people when that happened That Matt correll And Malik

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 12>willis were also invited to the. Draft they were third round.

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 12>Picks so at some point in THE. Nfl THE nfl

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 12>is an entertainment. Business they want a good. Story and

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 12>If Jalen milro is comfortable hanging out In Green bay

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 12>for an extra, day he'll be the face of the

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 12>draft tomorrow.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Night teams that historically are not good, drafters who would

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you put at the?

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 12>TOP i thought you were gonna name, him SO i

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 12>Was Brown's. Jets those are the two that come to

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 12>mind for. Me AND i try to make a joke

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 12>this morning on radio about The jets been bad at the,

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 12>draft and people THOUGHT i was predicting. Something it's, like, No,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 12>actually they're just traditionally they're not good at. It and

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 12>that's WHY i think you can point To cleveland's been

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 12>better as of. Late but those are teams that are

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 12>consistently picking in the top, five top.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Ten they're there every year for a. Reason seattle's, Great,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore baltimor is, Great Green bay's. Great Green. BAY i

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Think buffalo is. Great they're, underable but what's the strategy?

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 12>THERE i think they know their system well enough to

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 12>know what type of player works, there and they've had

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 12>some consistency in their coaching, positions so you know exactly

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 12>you know. It like With Matt, lafleur you know what

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 12>he's looking for and you know where you can find that.

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 12>Value you can Draft Zach tom in the fifth. Round

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 12>you don't have to spend a first round pick on

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 12>an offensive tackle or we know they're not going to

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 12>draft a receiver in the first, round ALTHOUGH i really

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 12>hope they do. Tonight if you have the draft in your,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 12>hometown you should. Draft it should be. Fun you should

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 12>take a. Receiver BUT i think it does boil down

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 12>to Like, baltimore they've drafted the same player on defense

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 12>for twenty. Years they know exactly what worked, there and

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 12>they just keep plugging those players and highly productive players

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 12>from big colleges and look at The rams turn.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:06.959
<v Speaker 2>Around they're doing that.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 12>Too they're going highly productive players from powerful conferences and

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 12>they've completely flipped that defense around after Losing.

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Donald fritzi's a Diehard bronco. Fan he found out

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>this morning The broncos have a first round draft. Pick, Oh,

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Congress that's it's kind of.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 4>SAD i thought that they didn't have a first round

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 4>pick for a couple days after that Bad Russell wilson.

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Deal, yeah, no you're.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 12>Back you're back in Back and they might be trading

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 12>up is what everyone's saying today is they might be moving.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Up CAN i ask you a quick question you'll humor.

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Me can we See?

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Ashton can they trade up and go From Boise State

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 4>bronco To Denver? Bronco is that expecting?

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>To it'd be?

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 12>Expensive do you want to spend two or three first

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 12>round picks on a running? Back would be the? Question

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 12>now are you? So especially in a deep running back?

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 12>Draft but it would be fun To, broncos it would be. Fun,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 12>yeah they'd have put some blue turf down In denver for.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Him it'd be. Great haven't they already done stupid things

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>when they brought In Russell Wilson.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 4>That didn't work out very well for To Russell wilson

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Related broncos shirts closet.

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Cobweb how does Cam ward not work? OUT i think

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 2>if he continues to be. Reckless you know?

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 12>WHAT i think the biggest drawback for him is at

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 12>times he believes in his own talent so much that

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 12>he'll wait to do, things or he'll make throws that he.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 12>Shouldn't WHEN i look At tennessee they have to add

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 12>playmakers around.

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Him he. Is he is a very good point.

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 12>Guard but it's notable that his career got better when

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 12>he went To miami where he had. Players he Had Elijah,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 12>Royo Xavier, Rostrepo Sam, Brown Damian. Martinez all those guys

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 12>are going to be drafted this. Weekend he didn't do

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 12>That Washington, state despite the fact that he Had Kyle,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 12>williams who's going to be a top one hundred draft

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 12>pick at. Receiver SO i think for cam If tennessee

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 12>doesn't surround him with playmakers and they expect him to

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 12>go Be Jaden daniels Or Patrick, mahomes it's not who he.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 12>Is he's much more of a distributor than he, is you,

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 12>know this electric. Playmakers that's not really the type of

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 12>player that he needs to.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Be but if you look at the you, know scouts

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>in draft, analysts they, say, well Cam ward probably would

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 2>have been the seventh quarterback taken last. Year, yeah, right

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the fifth to. Seventh, Okay but if that's the, Case

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Travis hunter is the most unique football player maybe we'll ever. See,

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>yeah why don't why don't you take that guy instead

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>of taking the best quarterback in this.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 12>Draft i've been saying that as, well would THAT i

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 12>would Take Abdul carter Or Travis. Hunter but when they

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 12>didn't jump in the quarterback market and free, agency we

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 12>knew where they were going because you can't roll another

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 12>year Of Will levis out there that's not. Working and

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 12>so we see this every year, though teams talk themselves

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 12>into their. QUARTERBACKS i Mean Fritzy's broncos it, worked but

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 12>they talked themselves into Bon, nicks and they were really

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 12>backed into that corner of there's no other quarterback on the,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:34.239
<v Speaker 12>board we're gonna have to take.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Him it worked.

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 12>Out Mac jones is an example of when that doesn't work.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 12>Out so Cam ward is a good. Player he's my

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 12>number fourteen overall player in this, draft so him going

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.239
<v Speaker 12>one is not. Relative no one has him ranked as

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 12>the top player in the, draft at least of the

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 12>boards That i've seen from my, colleagues none of us

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 12>have him as the top.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>PLAYER i know that anyone has him in the top.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Five even give me your scolding hot take for.

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 12>Tonight for, Tonight oh that, MAN i should have been

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 12>prepared for, that my scolding hot.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Take the defensive linemen are going to fly off the board.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Tonight that's.

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 12>Hot, no, no, no, okay, no, no no. Hotter, yeah door

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 12>doesn't go? Tonight is that?

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Hot? Yeah, okay, yeah we'll go with. THAT i think

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>we see one quarterback, tonight unless there's a. Trade Jackson

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>dart didn't.

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 12>Go, no as much AS i would love, it unless

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 12>The giants come back. UP i could see. THAT i

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 12>could see The giants getting back in for, him BUT i.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 12>Don't it's very hard to find a team that loves

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 12>should Or. Sanders, yeah that loves enough to make him the.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 12>Guy and maybe It's, pittsburgh but there's got to be

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 12>Some Kinny PICKETT ptsd, there you know from, like, oh

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 12>we tried this two years, ago did three years, ago

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 12>it didn't.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Work so that would be my hot. Take do small

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.959
<v Speaker 2>hands matter with your? QUARTERBACKS i mean a little.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 12>Bit if you have, fumbles THEN i think you look

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 12>at that and, say is their causation? There you, know

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 12>if you have a guy with smaller, hands But Patrick

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 12>mahomes has nine inch, hands has held him back it,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 12>All SO i think you want to look at. It

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 12>if it's a player who has fumble, issues then you

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 12>look at the hand size and Say, okay maybe.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 2>It, Matters, marvin hold up your hands if you a,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Quarterback oh, yeah Those.

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 12>You're also not a big hand. Guy you, know a

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 12>sub six footer has got to stick. Together so, uh

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 12>it's also you, KNOW i don't know that what Was

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 12>John elway's hand. SIZE i don't. Know it's probably Pray.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 12>DEC's he's a big. Guy but Like Joe, montana that's.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i brought that. UP i think it's so. Silly

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>BUT i don't remember somebody, saying you, know UN, I

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 2>i don't know if you'll, succeed hands are Smaller Joe

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>namath or any of.

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 12>THESE i understand the irony of a person in my

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 12>field saying, This But, dan a lot of the things

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 12>we talk about From january to now really don't, matter you,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 12>know they just really they don't, matter you, Know AND

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 12>i appreciate.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 8>That but thank.

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 2>You, hey you've got To, phil it's you're in the

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>machine at the. Mothership you gotta you got the, length you,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>know we got to talk about. Something, yes have fun this, Weekend.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Matt great to see, You Matt, MILLER ESPN Nfl draft.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Analysts we'll come back with our scalding hot takes for.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Tonight right after, this.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition Of The Dan

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Patrick show week days at nine Am eastern six Am

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.720
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0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>WAPP i want to thank the bar once again here

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 2>In Green. BAY i want to thank all the great

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>people who came out this. Morning they waited in, line

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and some people got here at four in the. Morning

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>we have some people outside that won't be able to

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>get in this, morning but, uh there's always. Tomorrow we'll

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>be here at the bar and during our show all three. Hours.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh dylan is part of our gambling. Podcast and by the,

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Way Dan patrick takes a gamble With shay And Irving

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Bad larry And dylan the Graphics. Guy that'll be after the.

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Show but, uh and we're gonna play THE Nfl Draft

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Hot take game coming up as. Well so let's make

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>way For dylan the graphics. Guy, yeah, yeah give me all, Right, Uh.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 6>Dan if you don't mind. It he looks Like John

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 6>daily minus the golf.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Talent. Yeah, yeah what was the outfit that you passed

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>on that you decided to wear that?

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 13>One, well THEN i, was as you, KNOW i was

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 13>away the week before. This i'm kind of running on

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 13>fumes in the clothing.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Department m but you did go to the casino last?

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Night we, did AND i won.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 8>Money.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay that's a, rarity that one in every one,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred because if you watch the or listen to the gambling,

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>podcast you pretty much never. Win i've been on a

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>cold streak you for. Years. Yeah, yeah you are the

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>frozen tunder when it comes to pick golf. BETTING i, think,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>okay do you have some draft odds that we should

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>be aware of the audience going into?

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 8>Tonight, yeah you want some of what the Things i'm looking?

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>At did you see your?

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 4>One?

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so you know?

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 8>What definitely not?

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Today, okay all, right so this one's.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 8>Spicy Jalen millrow to be the SECOND qb take?

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 12>It?

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay plus a? Thousand all, right not.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 8>Impossible.

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Now once, again people who do these projections and talk about,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>bets they don't put their money on. It Like i'm

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna let you behind the. CURTAIN a lot of people

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>who do. This, YEAH i gotta Like Mike greenberg's putting

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 2>his money on the line when he's making these bets ON.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Espn you are putting your money on, these and too

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 2>much of your money by the, way it's a charitable

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>donation To, okay some of Our so you're Taking Jalen, Milrow,

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 2>yeah second quarterback off the.

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 13>Board, yeah you can bet on the position that mister

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 13>irrelevant will, be which is kind OF i, mean that's

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 13>just a toss up, really BUT i might take AN o.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 8>Lineman, Okay, YEAH a needy team's.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, Whatever, okay what are the odds, though plus four,

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred four, Hundred, yeah what's a? Quarterback a quarterback?

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 13>IS i think it was like plus three, fifty so

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 13>slightly they're all in that same.

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Ball ok all, right.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 13>And this is like a lot schudeur to go to

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 13>The saints plus eleven hundred and then also under fourteen

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 13>and a half draft, position so.

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>You're Taking Jalen milroe as the same. Quarterback but that

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 2>would mean, yes that should Or sanders is going to

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>go to The.

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 13>Saints so hopefully one of these Heads i'm spreading myself

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 13>across the.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>World, okay not everything is a, Contingent.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Okay, yeah And.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 13>Matthew golden under seventeen and a, half that's probably the

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 13>only smart one of.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 8>These actually that's minus one sixty.

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Five, Okay Matthew. Golden, yep that's. It Who's Matthew? Golden the? Receiver? Yeah,

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i mean you have to oh, yeah the receiver.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Facts there you. Go that's what you have to do

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 2>because not everybody knows what you. Know, no most people know.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>More they do uh more of this. Greatness on The Gambling,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Podcast Dan patrick takes a gamble available after the show

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 2>At dan danpatrick dot. Com how About Dylan dylan the graphics. Guy,

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i think it's ready. That, yeah what's he? WEARING

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 2>i have no. Idea he's dressed Like Danny DaVita. Matilda

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>he lost a BET i think is what happened? There

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 2>that like The oh, YEAH i love the. Confidence you

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>know WHEN i think of a swag, bag he's a swag.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Bag he is a swag. Bag, yeah he's, walking, living

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>breathing swag. Bag. Yeah dylan has. Riza he has riz

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>as the kids like to. Say he came back From.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Spain he was, there you know during the week. OFF

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>pauli sees him in the. Airport your face is, down

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>you have a beer with you AND i think you

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 2>were At shakeshack so you were prepping For Green. BAY

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 2>i like. That flying back he's probably jet.

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Lagged and, uh it's my second burger before eleven, am

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 3>which is grabbing a.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>BEER i like. It. Uh and then these guys are

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 2>out all last night going. Gambling, Yeah i'm so lucky

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>to have you guys as my my backroom. Guys all,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 2>right coming, up we'll talk To Kurt, Warner Daniel. Jeremiah

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 2>we will play the. Game we. Will are you guys

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>ready for? This paulie wants at least two hot takes

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 2>for the draft final. Hour Marvin todd Seton, paulie yours

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 2>truly back after this