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Speaker 2: will know which two teams will face off in Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl fifty nine. Ritzie, We're a couple hours away of

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Speaker 2: kickoff between the Commanders and the Eagles for the NFC Championship,

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Speaker 2: and that, of course will be followed up later on

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Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs for the AFC Championship. And you know we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this before, Rich this is the worst possible

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Speaker 2: loss for a team, yes, because you know, if you

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl, you get all the hooplag. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: obviously it's devastating to lose a Super Bowl. But when

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Speaker 2: you've invested as much energy into a season as these

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Speaker 2: four teams have to get to the conference championship games,

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Speaker 2: losing one game short of the Super Bowl, I believe

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Speaker 2: is easily the most devastating loss you can suffer.

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Speaker 1: I won hundred percent. I won one hundred percent. Agree.

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Speaker 1: We actually talked about this many times over our time

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Speaker 1: broadcasting together. We've been sports talk partners all the way back,

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Speaker 1: you know, years and years ago in San Diego, still

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Speaker 1: here nationally on Fox Sports Radio, and my past before

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Speaker 1: broadcasting brought me all the way to New England in

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Speaker 1: the twenty eleven season. And that twenty eleven regular season,

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Speaker 1: we were good. We were one of the more dominant

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Speaker 1: teams in the country in the league, and we got

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. We lost to the Giants. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it fun to have the consolation prize of being

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Speaker 1: conference champs? No, it's not. But at least we were champs,

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Speaker 1: you know, like at least, I mean, you got there. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not fun to share the podium with the champion.

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Speaker 1: And when that confetti rained down and it was red, white,

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Speaker 1: and blue representing the Giants colors, I thought to myself, like,

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Speaker 1: isn't that odd? They probably saved money on confetti because

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Speaker 1: we had the same colors. Like, so, what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about as I was leaving the field watching the

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Speaker 1: Giants celebrate their Super Bowl. When I was, I was

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Speaker 1: it was surreal. I was in awe of how gutted

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Speaker 1: I felt about the whole experience. But the truth is, Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you get there, you could still say you were there.

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Speaker 1: When when you lose in this round, when when you

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Speaker 1: lose the NFC or the AFC Championship game, it feels

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Speaker 1: like like you have nothing to show for it.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, think about this. You got a ring

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Speaker 2: you were like, what's this?

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Speaker 3: This is a ring?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we didn't win the Super Bowl and you

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the twenty twelve season, I had

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Speaker 1: and You're absolutely right. I received a box in the

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Speaker 1: mail from the Patriots and I was like, what is this?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, racking my brain. I'm like, did I

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Speaker 1: forget something valuable in my locker? Could it have been? Like?

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know what it could be. So

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Speaker 1: I opened it up, and You're right. It was an

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Speaker 1: AFC championship ring. They had spent the money Robert Craft

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Speaker 1: the money to send out championship rings for just winning

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Speaker 1: the AFC championship ring a really nice touch. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: not every franchise does that, and it is a bizarre

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Speaker 1: But yeah, when you lose in the championship, Brown, the

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Speaker 2: All right, so you mentioned that Super Bowl you guys

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Speaker 2: I want to mention. Obviously, we're going to do a

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Speaker 2: But it was five years ago today, Rich on this

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Speaker 2: exact date, January twenty sixth, that you and I were

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Speaker 2: everything else, And so it was a story the night

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Speaker 2: before that Lebron James had passed Kobe Bryant for third

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Speaker 2: And of course, the rest of the show was talking

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Speaker 4: Parish that day not too far from where we actually

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Speaker 2: I know it was a very emotional day for you,

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Speaker 2: But here we are. The exact date, January twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: and it's five years ago. Rich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's it really is a testament to how

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Speaker 1: are complicated. Kobe Bryant's story is one of greatness and

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Speaker 1: one of great intrigue, obviously because he was incredibly famous,

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Speaker 1: but also, like every other human being who's ever walked

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Speaker 1: as well, And so every time there's reporting of the

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Speaker 1: of the low lights of his life and transgressions and

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Speaker 1: all like all stories, you got to take the ride,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not saying you need to love

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Speaker 1: Kobe or I'm not saying that you need to hate Kobe.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that you need to care. But

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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of our listeners, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: I will always do my best to you know, remember

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Speaker 1: the fact that alongside Kobe Bryant, who was a hero,

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Speaker 1: And uh and and you know, you just close your

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Speaker 2: Steve Well and the cantless shows that we've done over

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Speaker 2: the years, I would say that is one show that

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Speaker 2: rich rich is a very emotional guy, folks. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just that day. Of course, we had to

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Speaker 2: her the next several days. And Richie, just you really

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Speaker 5: I mean you had babies, yeah, yeah, and so it

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Speaker 1: When you realize the impact of losing losing people so young,

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Speaker 1: shocked by what happened, Steve, you know, it was part

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Speaker 1: part of our responsibility to convey any updates, any news

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Speaker 1: uh as the week unraveled. And so you're right that one,

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Speaker 1: that one was difficult. I know it was difficult for

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Speaker 1: you because you had a personal relationship with Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 1: You you obviously worked at the Lakers flagship during the

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Speaker 1: affected the most. That sounds ridiculous, it's not a contest,

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Speaker 1: but I we that was an interesting time and to reminisce,

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Speaker 1: like I said, five years later on that tragedy, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem possible that it's been five years. And also,

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Speaker 1: hug the ones you love because life can change in

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Speaker 1: What's so bizarre about it is how popular the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: The first time Brian Schottenheiber got an interview for a

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna do the Cowboys of favor right now,

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Speaker 2: How are you, Martin?

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much most guys barely even aygnow my birthdays.

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Speaker 2: See Rich's Valentine's Day and I'm fourth of July, So

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Speaker 2: you know, Valentine's Day is not a good.

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Speaker 4: Day for a guy to have a birthday, and fourth

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Speaker 4: of July. No one notices my birthday either, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: well but you know the ladies like to extend. Some

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Speaker 4: have a birthday month.

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Speaker 3: That's some shirt. I'll just say it. Oh, we're all

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Speaker 3: think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Just a few short hours away from the NFC Championship

444
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Speaker 7: game between the Commanders and the Eagles, Eagles a center

445
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Speaker 7: is Cam Durgons officially out with a back injury. Lest

446
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Speaker 7: Landon Dickerson slides over to play center and Tyler Stott

447
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Speaker 7: will be the guard. Tyler Steen, i'm sorry, will be

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Speaker 7: the guard for the Eagles. So Cam Durgons, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: He hold on a dog on second forty six seconds ago.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, what happened?

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Speaker 7: No, the Eagles are gonna make Cam dragons active, so

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Speaker 7: he's not out, but he's unlikely to start and only

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Speaker 7: probably to be expected to play in emergency situation.

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Speaker 2: All right, what happened here?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm watching the broadcast, they also said that jam

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Speaker 4: Cam Jurgens was out.

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Speaker 7: I'm not making it up, but minutes ago, now forty

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Speaker 7: two seconds.

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Speaker 1: Ago, they need to make.

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Speaker 4: Up their minds and figure out what's actually he send

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Speaker 4: Kelsey apparently is available.

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Speaker 3: Available now. Rich let me ask you, I've never played

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Speaker 3: offensive long?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you have.

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Speaker 2: We will be in an emergency situation.

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Speaker 7: Does that like a points thing or that so many

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Speaker 7: guys get hurt thing, like he's the less hurt of

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Speaker 7: all the guys, Like houses works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right, Martin. Is when you have a situation,

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Speaker 1: When you have a situation where all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, your your backup center now goes down and

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to shove a guy into the

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Speaker 1: game who rarely takes snaps. You'll let the injured center

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Speaker 1: who's your normal starter go into the game, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I just try to plot around out there and try

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Speaker 1: not to screw it up or hurt himself further rather

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Speaker 1: than put a guy in who's woefully underprepared for the job.

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Speaker 3: Just go out there and try to get in the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, snap the ball, make sure Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts gets it, and then just start cut blockings.

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Speaker 7: Like yeah, all right, we'll speaking of Jalen Hurts. We

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Speaker 7: saw that knee injury that he suffered in the divisional round.

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Speaker 7: He's off the injury report today, but probably we'll be

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Speaker 7: wearing a brace, same deal with Clinion Mitchell. Commander's linebacker

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Speaker 7: Frankly Louvu was fined thirty three, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 7: three dollars for two penalties that he was not flagged

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Speaker 7: for in the divisional round, one of which would to

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Speaker 7: wipe the Commander's touchdown off the board following a Jared

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Speaker 7: Goff interception.

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Speaker 3: Interception still would have stood.

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Speaker 7: Though Maryland and Indiana playing Big ten basketball, Maryland with

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Speaker 7: a fifty seven to forty eight lead with the eleven

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Speaker 7: minutes left in the in the for in the game, brother,

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Speaker 7: So there we go. And in Wisconsin with a thirty

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Speaker 7: two to twenty one lead over Nebraska with three minutes

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Speaker 7: left in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Hi Mar, I'm very very good.

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll see conflicting reports if they ever make

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Speaker 7: their minds up on Camp Dragrans.

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Speaker 3: I'll be the first lection.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right. That feel free to give us breaking news, okay, because.

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Speaker 4: At any moment, so we'll stay tuned for that. I mean,

503
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Speaker 4: it's sort of important who that starting center is going

504
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Speaker 4: to be for the Eagles today, no question about that.

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Speaker 4: All right, Once again we are Red Zone Radio, Steve

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Speaker 4: Hartman and Rich Ornberger with you. All right, So, uh,

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Speaker 4: it's a little curious we're talking a little bit right

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Speaker 4: now about some of these coaching hires around the National

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Speaker 4: Football League. Oh, by the way, if you're wondering about

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Speaker 4: longest drought on the AFC side to get to the

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Speaker 4: conference championship game, technically it says the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: But those Cleveland Browns back in nineteen eighty nine are

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Speaker 2: now the Ravens, so I don't count them. The expansion

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Speaker 2: Browns who were born in nineteen ninety nine obviously have

515
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Speaker 2: never been to a conference championship game. So actually the

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Speaker 2: team that's had the longest drought is the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Wow, the nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two season, Yeah, Don Chulu was still the coach. Yeah,

519
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Speaker 2: Dan Arena was still the quarterback. That is the last

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Speaker 2: time the Miami Dolphins were in the conference championship game.

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Speaker 2: So that's something to think about. By the way, second

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Speaker 2: on that list and the AFC would be the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been in the AFC Championship Game since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two, and now they've hired a coach and

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Speaker 2: knows about winning. I want to get your thoughts here

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Speaker 2: Rich on the impact of Tom Brady on the Raider

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Speaker 2: organization that has been miserable since that two thousand and

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Speaker 2: two season which they made it all the way to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. John Gruden, the former Raider coach, course

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Speaker 2: hammered the Raiders in that Super Bowl. That Tampa Bay

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Speaker 2: defense intercepted the league's MVP Rich Cannon five times in

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Speaker 2: that game. So hiring a seventy three year old Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 2: who obviously had great success in Seattle fourteen seasons ten

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Speaker 2: playoff appearances a couple of Super Bowl should have won

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Speaker 2: two Super Bowls? By the way, was this tom Brady's

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Speaker 2: way of sort of thanking Pete Carroll for throwing the

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Speaker 2: ball instead of handing it to Marshawn Lynn so that

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Speaker 2: he could win that Super Bowl? You know, hey, Bete,

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Speaker 2: you know hey, thanks so much for that decision. Instead

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Speaker 2: of just handing the ball off to Marshawn Linz and

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Speaker 2: putting us into a near impossible hole to win that game,

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Speaker 2: you decided to throw the ball and give us an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to win that game. But why Pete Carroll? And

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Speaker 2: what do you think Tom Brady has a mind moving forward?

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Speaker 2: For this Raiders organization.

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Speaker 1: Why Pete Carroll Because he's one of the best football

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Speaker 1: minds in the cop I guess you could say in

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Speaker 1: the coaching carousel. You know, I mean he still has

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Speaker 1: interest to coach. He's one of the most brilliant people

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Speaker 1: who's ever coached football. He's a tremendous orator, meaning when

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Speaker 1: he gets in front of the room, he commands the

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Speaker 1: attention of his players. He conveys a great message, he

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Speaker 1: sets a great tone. Players seem to like to play

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Speaker 1: for Pete Carroll. Then you go to the actual football stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: he has masterminded some of the greatest teams and the

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Speaker 1: greatest turnarounds of teams over the history of the NFL

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Speaker 1: and college football. Is he is an architect of two powerhouses,

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Speaker 1: one in college with the USC Trojans and then the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, who were really desperate for direction, for identity,

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Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll made them Super Bowl champs. So I

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Speaker 1: look at Pete Carroll as one of the best names

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Speaker 1: who really did not get a lot of love as

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Speaker 1: a potential higher because of his age. But like we know,

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Speaker 1: age is a number, and you know, seventy two, seventy four, whatever,

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Speaker 1: age he's at right now. I think he's seventy three.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy four next season.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I mean that's that looks different on

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Speaker 1: a lot of different people. Seventy four could mean very

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Speaker 1: different things, you know. Seventy four to for some could

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Speaker 1: mean Hey, you're gonna send in an armchair, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: work on your crosswords, and we're gonna bring you, you know,

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Speaker 1: afternoon coffee, you know, for seventy four. For some other people,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're still, you know, working as a general contractor,

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Speaker 1: or they're on top of scaffolding, painting, or.

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Speaker 2: Their foot in seventy eight. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying it looks different for a

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Speaker 1: lot of different people. So so I think that was

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why his name got factored out

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Speaker 1: in a lot of different coaching hiring circles. And I

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Speaker 1: think Tom Brady probably had several conversations with him over

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Speaker 1: the course of his career and probably some recent conversations

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Speaker 1: with Pete to gain to gauge his interest and was

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Speaker 1: impressed with what he heard from him and his vigor

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Speaker 1: and his his his his excitement to coach in the

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Speaker 1: NFL again and man, I would want him to be

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Speaker 1: my head coach. I absolutely would.

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with this one factor. I mean,

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Speaker 2: when you look at the Raiders roster, you got mac

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Speaker 2: Crosby and Brock Boers. Those are the only two standout

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Speaker 2: players on that roster. You know, we call elite level

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Speaker 2: players at their position. The rest of the team just guys,

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Speaker 2: just guys, and so they got a lot of work

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Speaker 2: to do. And I don't know what kind of commitment

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll has made. I agree with his age situation.

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Speaker 2: I know a thing about it or two about age.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's not about the age. It's really

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Speaker 2: about what they can put together to put in the

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Speaker 2: pieces to help Pete Carroll actually build a winning team.

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Speaker 2: And this gets back to the old Tom Brady story.

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Speaker 2: Is Tom Brady running the show? I will say this,

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Speaker 2: I know Mark Davis well, and I know Mark Davis

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Speaker 2: understands that he doesn't know football. From the day that

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Speaker 2: he inherited the franchise from his father, he has tried

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Speaker 2: to surround himself with knowledgeable football people, but it hasn't worked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've had consent and changes obviously.

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Speaker 4: The John Gruden situation, you know, unexpectedly backfired, but to

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Speaker 4: bring it in obviously an elite coach and Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 2: Now Tom Brady, you know Tom Brady obviously the goat

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Speaker 2: as far as quarterback. You know, he's got a year

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Speaker 2: under his belt as a play as an analyst in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I'd say he didn't fail. He wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: I mean to be determined. But now a far more.

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Speaker 4: Important aspect of his post playing life is how good

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Speaker 4: he's going to be as an executive in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I know that's what he wants. The question is can

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Speaker 2: he actually deliver?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, speaking of.

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Speaker 4: Coaches, an interesting twist to the coaches.

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Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty four season. Well, explain, this is

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Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio. Steve Harbin, Rich Armberger Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the tie IRAQ dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, we're a little over an hour away from

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Speaker 2: kickoff the NFC Championship game between the Philadelphia Eagles and

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. Next hour, we're gonna really break this

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Speaker 2: game down so that you'll be ready for this NFC battle.

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Speaker 2: And then of course later Chie's bills. Wow, does it

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Speaker 2: get any better than that? That will be for the

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship, but by days in participants for Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: fifty nine will be determined.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So we've been talking about coaches and obviously you're just

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Speaker 2: looking right guy, right place, right time. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of reasons why, you know, and you mentioned this earlier, Rich.

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Speaker 2: You know, some guys that really seem to be pretty

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Speaker 2: benign HighRes turn out to be great hires. There's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of times you're like, he's the hot guy

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Speaker 2: and it turns out to be a complete bust as

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Speaker 2: a head coach. And there's a lot of reasons for that,

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Speaker 2: but I found it interesting. So the NFL Honors, this

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00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: will be all the awards, the Associated Press Awards, and

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: of course the Hall of Fame class at twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five announced will be announced on February sixth. And they've

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Speaker 2: expanded the voting in terms of all these awards. He

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Speaker 2: used to be just like a vote, like you know,

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Speaker 2: one vote, a first place vote, but now they have first, second,

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Speaker 2: third place vote. So it's you know, a little more

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Speaker 2: drawn out as far as candidates for these awards are concerned. Sure,

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Speaker 2: but I'm looking at the five finalists that were announced,

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Speaker 2: you know, the top five vote getters, we don't know

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Speaker 2: what order for the AP Coach of the Year, and

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Speaker 2: alphabetically they're Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell, Sean Payton, Dan Quinn,

653
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Speaker 2: and Andy Reid. And I'm like, Jim Harbaugh took over

654
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: a five win Charger team with a completely gutted arsenal

655
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Speaker 2: of offense weapons, won eleven games. I mean, they took JK.

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Speaker 4: Dobbins, who most people, because of all his injuries, had

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Speaker 4: completely given up.

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Speaker 1: Off They forgotten about him, completely forgotten.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he is rightfully one of the finals

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Speaker 2: for Comeback Player of the.

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Speaker 1: Year, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But how is it possible that Jim Harbaugh? Who I look,

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Speaker 2: I've always had faith in Jim Harbaugh before the seas,

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Speaker 2: I said, believe me, he'll get this right. But they

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Speaker 2: don't have much left. I mean, he's it's gonna take

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Speaker 2: a couple of years. He did it in one year. Yah,

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Speaker 2: could he not be one of the five finalists for

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Speaker 2: the Coach.

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Speaker 1: Of the Year. Give me the names one more time.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell, Sean Payton, Dan Quinn, and Andy Reid.

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Speaker 2: And remember in the Dan Quinn this is regular season,

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Speaker 2: so the rote was done before the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm going to eliminate Andy Reid and Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell from this conversation because they're they're really thrown into

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Speaker 1: this bunch because of the culture they've created in their

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00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: cities amongst their franchise. They've they they it feels like

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Speaker 1: if you are selected preseason is going to be some

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00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: of the best teams in your conference, and then all

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Speaker 1: season long you are actually one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: in your conference. It's there's a there's a large amount

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Speaker 1: of that obviously credit that's owed to the players, but

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Speaker 1: also coaching the other guys. The reason why Peyton and

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Speaker 1: Quinn and Kevin O'Connell are all included in the finalist

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Speaker 1: categories because look at their quarterbacks. You're talking about two

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks and a guy who has left for dead

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Speaker 1: in terms of ever being a starting quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: NFL game in Sam Darnold. So what Quinn has been

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Speaker 1: able to do with Daniels in Washington, what what obviously

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Speaker 1: Kevin o'can donald was able to accomplish with Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: his backup to his first round draft pick, who is

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Speaker 1: supposed to get the starts of this season, and then

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Speaker 1: obviously what Peyton was able to do with Boon Knicks

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Speaker 1: in Denver is nothing short of incredible when we think

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Speaker 1: about how difficult it is to win in this league

695
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: and how difficult it is to win in this league

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Speaker 1: with a competent quarterback, let alone a backup in rookies.

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Speaker 1: So that's the reason why Jim Harbaugh got skipped over

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Speaker 1: because he has Justin Herbert, and Justin Herbert is one

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Speaker 1: of the most talented quarterbacks in this league.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, although when you think

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Speaker 2: about Sean Payton, he took a seven win team, which

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Speaker 2: by the way, he coached. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: won ten games. That's not six to eleven.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about the Andy Reid though nomination.

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Speaker 2: I like that because all season long, worst ten and

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Speaker 2: one team ever worst eleven, and one team ever worst twelve,

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Speaker 2: one team ever. I'm like, well, then somebody should get

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Speaker 2: credit for this, and I I think Andy Reid has

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Speaker 2: done his best coaching job this season. All Right, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get you ready for the NFC title Game, Eagles Commanders.

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Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio, one hour away from kickoff

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Speaker 2: of the NFC Championship Game between the Eagles and the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: this is an interesting matchup coming up here in the

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Speaker 2: NFC Championship Game. Division Rivals. So they've already played twice

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Speaker 2: this year, Rich and you know, right out of the

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Speaker 2: box a couple of things. The Eagles have been favored

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Speaker 2: six six and a half points, and now it looks

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Speaker 2: like the late money is coming in on the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: The line has dropped a five and a half, so

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Speaker 2: late money on the Commanders, and that might be because

727
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Speaker 2: of the last time these two tans faced off. That

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Speaker 2: was December twenty second in Washington when the Commanders entered

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Speaker 2: the Eagles ten game winning streak and have put things

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Speaker 2: in perspective for the rookie Jaden Daniels. In that game,

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Speaker 2: facing an Eagles team that finished the season ranked number

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Speaker 2: one overall and number one in pass defense, he threw

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Speaker 2: five touchdown passes, five touchdown passes against the number one

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Speaker 2: ranked pass defense, the number one ranked total defense, as

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Speaker 2: the Commanders beat the Eagles that day thirty six to

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Speaker 2: thirty three. So this game's in Philadelphia because I mentioned

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Speaker 2: the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely one of the top defenses is not the Lions.

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Speaker 4: Banged up defense that the Commanders feasted off of last

740
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Speaker 4: week is a whole different level. But it is a

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Speaker 4: defense they know well. It's a defense they faced twice

742
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Speaker 4: this year. Can you conceive of Jaden Daniels coming anywhere

743
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Speaker 4: near his offensive dominance that he had the last time

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Speaker 4: he faced the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I could see it. I absolutely could see it. I

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Speaker 1: took I took Washington plus six yesterday. I'm interested and

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's a certain level of uh whatever you

748
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Speaker 1: call it, more confidence in that in that selection now

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Speaker 1: that the number has dropped to five and a half,

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Speaker 1: which means that obviously there's a lot of money rushing

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Speaker 1: in on the Commanders. So what that says to me

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Speaker 1: is a lot of people feel similarly to the way

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Speaker 1: I felt yesterday about this line, about this team, about

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Speaker 1: this quarterback, which is this this team can run with

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Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL. This season. Now, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if next year is gonna look as productive or as

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00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: completely dominant at times as it's looked this season, because

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Speaker 1: obviously Daniels, there's gonna be an entire offseason to break

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Speaker 1: down what he does well, what he doesn't do well.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe there was a certain amount of luck

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Speaker 1: involved in this season, which I could get to in

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Speaker 1: a second, because I'm gonna explain the phenomenon that happened

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Speaker 1: last year to the Houston Texans. Actually that may potentially

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Speaker 1: happen to the Commanders this year as we break down

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Speaker 1: all this film. But you know, you look at a

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Speaker 1: season like this and it's a special season for the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they can run with anybody, including

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, who they faced twice this season. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing. Next year it's a

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Speaker 1: whole different ballgame. And if we want to have the

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Speaker 1: discussion on is Jayden Daniels one of the top qbs

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Speaker 1: in this league, that's a different discussion. But this year, man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, the Washington Commanders could potentially

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Speaker 1: win this Super Bowl. I mean they're one of the

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Speaker 1: least four team standing. The two teams that are in

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Speaker 1: their way. They're playing one of them for the third time.

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Speaker 1: Very difficult to beat a team three times in a season,

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Speaker 1: regular season, in postseason included, and then the other one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, have we been blown away by the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: at any point this season outside of defensive excellence, which

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Speaker 1: I do. I do credits Bagnolo for having one of

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Speaker 1: the best two year runs as a defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: a franchise. But the Chiefs are beatable. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: look at the Commanders as they could stand toe to

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Speaker 1: toe with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt, no doubt in my mind, this is

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Speaker 2: going to be a lopsided NFC Championship game in favor

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Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five seventeen something along those lines. Wow, let me explain.

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Speaker 2: Let me explain. There's a reason why no rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: has ever gotten to the Super Bowl. Last week, the

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Speaker 2: reason that the Commanders won the way they did is

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Speaker 2: that the Lions turned the ball over five times. The

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00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Commanders turned it over zero. So when you have a

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Speaker 2: five nothing difference in turnovers, and by the way, the

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00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: difference in the game was two touchdowns, there's a reason

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Speaker 2: why the Commanders won that game. Yes, they played very

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Speaker 2: very well against a broken down Lions defense, and against

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Speaker 2: a Lions team that turned the ball over five times.

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Speaker 2: This is an entirely different animal they're playing.

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Speaker 3: In the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: This is an Eagles team again that had the number

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Speaker 2: one overall defense in the NFL. Ironically, the last time

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Speaker 2: the Eagles actually led the NFL in total defense was

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, which happened to be the last time

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Speaker 2: the Washington franchise was not only in the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: but they won the Super Bowl that year. Here's the

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Speaker 2: other problem for the Commanders going into this game. Thirtieth

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Speaker 2: in the NFL in rushing defense is not a good

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Speaker 2: stat when you're going against the premier running back in

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Speaker 2: the league, Saquon Barkley, who is getting better each week.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting to me how the Commanders

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Speaker 2: are going to try to defend against the Eagles running game,

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Speaker 2: because my guess is the Commanders are going to go

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Speaker 2: all out to try to stop Saquon Barkley and say,

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Speaker 2: if if Jalen Hurts can beat us, so be it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good strategy either. I think

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Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to run all over this Commander's defense.

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Speaker 2: They didn't stop the Lions. Tamir Gibbs average what seven

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Speaker 2: yards of carrying that game. That was just a case

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Speaker 2: of the Lions imploding and the Commander's taking advantage of

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Speaker 2: that broken down Lions defense. That is not going to

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Speaker 2: happen today. I'm sorry, by the way, I would love

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Speaker 2: to see the commander to me. It's you know what's interesting?

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Speaker 2: Also a little note here, the ratings for the wild

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Speaker 2: card games are now down nine percent from a year ago,

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Speaker 2: and in the divisional round the numbers are down seven percent.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people talking about what we

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Speaker 2: were just getting a little of the Chiefs fatigue and

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Speaker 2: some other things out there, and then they're like, well,

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Speaker 2: what would be the best possible scenario. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: right now, the Commander's winning is a better story than

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Speaker 2: the Eagles winning. It's a much better story, especially with

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Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback and Jane and Daniels who would I mean,

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Speaker 2: each game he wins in this postseason, his star power

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Speaker 2: elevates and that's good for the NFL, but unfortunately not

838
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Speaker 2: against this Eagles team. This team is playing good football

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Speaker 2: right now. I know it was a sort of a

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Speaker 2: weird ending to that Rams game. I think they thought

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Speaker 2: after Saquon had the long run, the game was over.

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Speaker 2: And the Rams, you know, showed a lot of heart

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00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: to come back within a play, maybe actually winning that game.

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Speaker 2: But I just I think if you trace the history

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Speaker 2: of the NFL and we talk about these hot shot

846
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: teams that seemingly come out of nowhere, they seem to

847
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Speaker 2: run out of gas once they get to that conference

848
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Speaker 2: championship game, and unfortunately for the Commanders, I think that's

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Speaker 2: going to happen today.

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Speaker 1: I will I will politefully disagree on the outset because

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Speaker 1: I and you may be right. Look, I mean these

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Speaker 1: games when they're played, we see really interesting twists during

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Speaker 1: championship weekend. And here's the reason why, because not everybody's

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Speaker 1: been there before. Now, what's odd about this weekend is

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Speaker 1: three of the four teams have been recently. So you

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Speaker 1: can make an argument that the Bills, the Chiefs, and

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles all three have the experience requisite to

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Speaker 1: not allow game like this to get away from them

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Speaker 1: because the moment's too big. Because they've all been there,

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Speaker 1: they've all done that they've all experienced that. Yes, However,

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Speaker 1: that's not the case for the Washington Commanders. So I

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Speaker 1: will relent to you that I think it's possible. The

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Speaker 1: only reason why I think it's unlikely is because the

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Speaker 1: Eagles they have some serious problems. I mean, let's not

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Speaker 1: look past the fact that Cam Jurgens replaced Jason Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: who inarguably was the heartbeat of this football team over

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Speaker 1: the early years of Jalen Hurts. Offensively, he really was

868
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Speaker 1: a leader. He really helped keep the chemistry in that

869
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: locker room to you, at very least a simmer. It

870
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: never felt like it was boiling over this season, things

871
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: have gotten away from the Eagles a little bit. It's

872
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Speaker 1: not surprising that it's the first season without his leadership.

873
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: It's not surprising that all of a sudden Nick Sirianni,

874
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: during a good season was being questioned for his leadership

875
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: because Jason Kelsey isn't there, and that leadership leaves a vacuum.

876
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Speaker 1: And now Cam Jurgens is injured. So all of a sudden,

877
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Speaker 1: you have a backup center shifting over from the guard

878
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Speaker 1: position to the middle of this offensive formation making all

879
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: the calls. You're putting a backup in at guard. I mean,

880
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: that's a lot, that's a lot. That's a lot of

881
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: moving parts in one week preparing for a championship game,

882
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Speaker 1: and especially how important the center and the guard positions

883
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: are in Philadelphia with the Tush push, and then obviously

884
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: with the success of the run game with sakuon Barkley,

885
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: and then obviously with Jalen Hurts his injury situation. He's

886
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: got a bad knee, he's been dinged up in terms

887
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Speaker 1: of concussions over the past couple of weeks. So, man,

888
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I get it anecdotally when

889
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: you start talking about rookie quarterbacks history of the NFL.

890
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I agree with you that they're anecdotally.

891
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: What you just said makes sense, Steve, But there's a

892
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Speaker 1: lot of things that are leaning very, very much so

893
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Speaker 1: against the Eagles in this game.

894
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, if you're

895
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: thinking about wager on this game, good luck. We'll explain.

896
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Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio, forty minutes away from kickoff

897
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: of that NFC Championship game between the Commanders and Eagles.

898
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Speaker 2: We are live from the TAIRAQ dot Com studios. Just

899
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Speaker 2: for the record, Jaden Daniels is the sixth rookie quarterback

900
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: to start a conference championship game. The previous five all lost.

901
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: So I just just.

902
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: Yet again, I'm just throwing it.

903
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: I get it well. And by the way, they could

904
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: still lose and still keep it close.

905
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Speaker 2: They could. But now here's the thing. If you're a

906
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: degenerate gambler or just say, someone that likes to have fun,

907
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, or you're in denial about your gambling habits, sure, sure,

908
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: you know you're looking for every inch I mean, and

909
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: that's part of why we're here. Right as we get

910
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: you ready for the game, we give you something. But

911
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: here's here's something that's not going to help you, Okay,

912
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: not going to help you. So including the playoffs this year,

913
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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles very good against the spread. Twelve six

914
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: and one. Twelve six and one, that's what the Eagles

915
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Speaker 2: are including the playoffs this season against the spread the Commanders. Okay,

916
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Speaker 2: so the Eagles are twelve six and one, the Commanders

917
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: twelve six and one.

918
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Speaker 1: They have the exact.

919
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Same record against the spread this year exactly, So no

920
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: edge there. You know you're you're looking for something, right,

921
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: They're like, well, wait, how's this team because you're talking

922
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: about the points spread, like, you know the Commanders. Yeah,

923
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: they could lose the game, but they could keep it

924
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: close against the spread. These two French both are outstanding

925
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: against the spread this year, but they have the identical

926
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Speaker 2: records against the spread. So in terms of because you

927
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Speaker 2: do this obviously on your Saturday show here, Rich, yeah,

928
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: when you're looking at a point spread, and let's face it,

929
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Speaker 2: Vegas always knows what they're doing. I mean, here's a

930
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: reason why they continue to bathe in money because they

931
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Speaker 2: know how to set the line that's going to benefit

932
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Speaker 2: them the most.

933
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Speaker 3: So when you're.

934
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Speaker 2: Trying to figure out whether or not the Commanders keep

935
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Speaker 2: this game close, and you believe they will because you're

936
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Speaker 2: on the record saying, so, why, what was the determining

937
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: factor that in your mind, even if the Commanders don't

938
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Speaker 2: outright win this game, they'll lose this game by less

939
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Speaker 2: than six points.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the best I could give to you. I

941
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: think that getting two looks at what the Eagles do

942
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: well this season and then really watching Saquon take over

943
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: both of those games because he ate that guy is

944
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: good and the Commanders have a bad rush defense, coupled

945
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Speaker 1: with some of the problems the Eagles have on offense

946
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Speaker 1: with their offensive line, the injuries, coupled with the fact

947
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Speaker 1: that Jalen hurts even though he's ready for the game,

948
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Speaker 1: and I think that he's going to show up and

949
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Speaker 1: be one hundred percent ready, but we know how injuries are.

950
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: You can re injure yourself over the course of a

951
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: sixty minute football game. Coupled with the fact that you know,

952
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we've taught discussed enough that we have

953
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: a very veteran head coach who has seen teams deep

954
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Speaker 1: into playoff runs, super Bowls, and has been at the

955
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Speaker 1: front of the class for some really talented quarterbacks in

956
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Speaker 1: games like this. I don't put it past the Commanders

957
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: to win this game, but certainly I think there's enough.

958
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: I think there's enough momentum in the Commanders in Washington's

959
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Speaker 1: direction to make the argument that they could keep it

960
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Speaker 1: at very lea close with Philadelphia. And also over the

961
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Speaker 1: history of time, like you know, and I know Steve

962
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Speaker 1: championship games with the Cream rising to the top of

963
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And again, if you're gonna point out the

964
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Speaker 1: fact that there have only been six six rookie quarterbacks

965
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Speaker 1: to bring their team to NFC Championships game or conference

966
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Speaker 1: championship games, and all of them have lost except for

967
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Speaker 1: jam and Daniels obviously, So we'll see what happens here.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw into this anecdotally. Historically, championship games are typically close.

969
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty pretty hefty point spread. So

970
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Speaker 1: I just there's there's a lot that's pushing me in

971
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Speaker 1: the direction of Washington.

972
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Speaker 2: Se Gwan Barkley. A decision was made in the last

973
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Speaker 2: regular season game, when he was on the brink of

974
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Speaker 2: break in the all time NFL single season rushing record

975
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Speaker 2: to sit him. I mean, and and Rich is one

976
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Speaker 2: that insists that if if Barkley wanted to play, even

977
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Speaker 2: if his entire starting offensive line was sitting out, he

978
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Speaker 2: would have still played. I found that interesting because you're

979
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Speaker 2: mentioned in the last segment about all the injuries on

980
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Speaker 2: the championship on the Eagles side on their offensive line,

981
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Speaker 2: but you had no problem with Barkley risking his life

982
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Speaker 2: behind his backups to get that record. But so far,

983
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: that decision seems to be working out real nice for

984
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Speaker 2: the Eagles, because in his two playoff games so far,

985
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Speaker 2: Barkley had one hundred and nineteen yards against the Packers

986
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Speaker 2: and a whopping two hundred and five yards against the Rams,

987
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: which was a franchise record held by the immortal Steve

988
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: Van Buren Hall of Famer, who ironically set that record

989
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine against the Los Angeles Rams. Interesting,

990
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: so they both did it against the Rams in a

991
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: playoff game. But do you think now, because you thought

992
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: maybe Barkley has some regrets about bypassing the opportunity to

993
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: break that all time record, But the way this has

994
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: played out, at least so far in the postseason, do

995
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: you think now he's saying, Wow, that probably was the

996
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: right decision.

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I think if well, it remains to be seen whether

998
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: or not he regrets it or how much he regrets it,

999
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: because I was talking about as a really a PostScript

1000
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: to his career, you know, almost like all right, and

1001
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: that that does it, Sae Kwan Barkley after you know,

1002
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: name it, thirteen year, twelve year, ten year, you know,

1003
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: fifteen year NFL career as a running back retires one

1004
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: of the greatest to ever play the game, if not

1005
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: the greatest. Maybe, right, we'll see how the rest of

1006
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: the story is written. I do think at some point, regardless,

1007
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: he'll look back on this season and say, man, I

1008
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: wish I would have done it. I do think. I

1009
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Speaker 1: just think that. I think individually it's impossible to ignore

1010
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: that that would have been a pretty cool career accomplishment.

1011
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: It was within striking distance. It may or may not

1012
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: have an effect on this postseason. We wouldn't know unless

1013
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: it actually happened. And I think you would have gotten it.

1014
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: I really do. I think you would have gotten it,

1015
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: especially if when you see the way he's rushed against

1016
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the Packers and the Rams in these in these playoffs.

1017
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: I think he would have gotten it. And so I'm

1018
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 1: not saying I'm sad about it. I'm not saying he's

1019
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: sad about it. I'm not saying that anybody is all

1020
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: that worried about it anymore, because here we are three

1021
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: weeks later and they're playing for an NFC championship game.

1022
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: And even if they lose this game, I don't think

1023
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna lot be a lot of people who come

1024
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: out of the ward work say, man, Saquon should have

1025
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: done it, or even he himself or anybody on the Eagles.

1026
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: But I do think as a PostScript to his career.

1027
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: Whenever he hangs up the cleats for good, he will

1028
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: look back on that season, that twenty twenty four regular

1029
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: season and say, man, I kind of wish I would

1030
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Speaker 1: have because I was right. This wasn't a maybe. This

1031
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: feels like it would have been. He would have definitely

1032
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: gotten it, and who knows, depending on how the game went,

1033
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: he might have gotten it in the first half. Yeah.

1034
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how talented of a running back he

1035
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: is and how good of a season he's had this season.

1036
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Speaker 2: So I'm looking over as some of these NFC championship

1037
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: games as far as points spreads are concerned, it's really

1038
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: a mixed bag.

1039
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Speaker 3: You know.

1040
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: Again, when we're talking about are these games close or not?

1041
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting to me as I was looking

1042
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: this up Aaron Rodgers. So Aaron Rodgers led the Packers

1043
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl championship in the twenty ten season.

1044
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: After that, he was owing four in NFC championship games

1045
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: own four and earlier. We were talking about this, right

1046
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: that there is no worse loss than the conference championship

1047
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: game because you've invested an entire season, you've made a

1048
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: run in the playoffs to get to that opportunity to

1049
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl and losing that game is heartbreaking,

1050
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: and yet he lost four for those games.

1051
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1052
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: Interesting. Just you know, we talk about the the Patrick Mahomes,

1053
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: the Tom Brady's, those guys that just seem to always

1054
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: find a way right in the biggest games. Aaron Rodgers

1055
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: is not one of those guys. By the way.

1056
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Speaker 4: On the other side, I'm going to ask you about

1057
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers new coach.

1058
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh, is he even going to be a Jet? I'm

1059
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that as well, because I'm gonna break

1060
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: a little early here, break a little early to find

1061
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: out what is trending. And the reason I'm doing that

1062
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: is that Martin is one of those that is a

1063
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: big advocate of Aaron Glint, the new coach of the Jets.

1064
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: They have finally found the guy former Jets player that

1065
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: will lead him out of the wilderness with Aaron Rodgers

1066
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: at quarterback. Is that right?

1067
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Speaker 3: Well, like we were talking about yesterday, Steve.

1068
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Speaker 7: Jay Glazier said that he talked to Aaron Glenn this morning,

1069
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Speaker 7: Jay Glazer of Fox Sports, and Aaron Glenn told him

1070
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Speaker 7: that he plans to meet with Aaron Rodgers and they'll

1071
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Speaker 7: come up with the decision much sooner than later.

1072
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't want to drag this out because

1073
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: remember yesterday you were saying, what's Rogers going to do?

1074
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: I said, I think Aaron Glenn's going to make the

1075
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Speaker 3: decision for him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I, first of all, if I'm Aaron Glenn, make

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Speaker 2: up your mind right now. We're not dragging this out.

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: You want to be here, great. If you don't want

1079
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: to be here, goodbye. I don't have time for this.

1080
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of work to turn the things

1081
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: around for the Jets. So yeah, if I was Aaron Glenn,

1082
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm not wasting time on Aaron Rodgers to you know,

1083
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: finding his sweet spot or hanging out in some room

1084
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: to try to figure out his future in the NFL.

1085
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: You tell me right now you want to be here, great,

1086
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: If you don't, Bye bye.

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: Per Jay Glazier, that's what's gonna happen. And that's the

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 3: way it should be actually.

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 7: Per NFL Insiders, depending on what time of the day

1090
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 7: it is, Camp Dragons was either out or not acting.

1091
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: What is the update on Cam Durgens.

1092
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna he's active but not playing.

1093
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: He's active but not playing.

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he'll have he'll have his helmet, but he's

1095
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 7: not going to play unless there is an emergency situation,

1096
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 7: like the outline with Rich earlier. So, guys, you know,

1097
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 7: there's just a multitude of injuries that occur and then

1098
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 7: Cam Dragons is the least injured, then he can get.

1099
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: Back out there.

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: Is that I mean?

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: Rich?

1102
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: Is that like?

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01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: So he serves as an online consultant, a sort of

1104
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: help out or what.

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: Well a little bit, I mean having his eyes and

1106
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: ears on the field. They would anyways, even if he

1107
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: wasn't playing, he would be in street close doing the

1108
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: same thing. But also I do think that there have

1109
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: been several times over the course well actually in my

1110
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: own career, I remember there were times where if a

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman was injured and wasn't quite ready to

1112
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: come back into the game, he was used as the

1113
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: emergency reserve just in case there was an injury. And

1114
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: a couple of times over the course of my career

1115
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen where a guy who was you know,

1116
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: struggling with a groin injury or an ankle or a knee,

1117
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: which foisted into action because there was another injury on

1118
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: top of the of his own injury.

1119
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, quarterback Jalen Hurts, cornerback QUINNYA. Mitchell off the injury

1121
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 7: report for the Eagles, and that game's getting started. In

1122
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 7: about half an hour now, six thirty Eastern, the Kansas

1123
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 7: City Chiefs host a Buffalo Bills in the AFC Championship.

1124
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: It's Kansas City's seventh consecutive AFC Championship game.

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01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: In Ohio, State.

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Speaker 7: Defensive coordinator Jim Knowles is leaving the Buckeyes to take

1127
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 7: the same role at Penn State. His contract reportedly averages

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 7: three point one million dollars over the three years.

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Speaker 3: Now, the way I'm reading this tweet from a damn

1130
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 3: all I.

1131
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 7: Believe says averages three point one million dollars over three years.

1132
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: To me, that would be nine point three million dollars

1133
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 7: over three years.

1134
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: I don't know why I didn't write it like that. Yeah,

1135
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm just reporting what's being with. That's all

1136
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: I can do. I'm only one.

1137
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: Man, all right, Martin, thank you very very much. Once again,

1138
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: we'red Zone Radio here, Steve hartin Rich Ornberger with you,

1139
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 2: and yes, we're less than half an hour away from

1140
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: kickoff of this NFC title game between the Commanders and

1141
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles. I mentioned Aaron Glenn is the new coach

1142
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: of the Jets, and you know, Aaron Glenn obviously did

1143
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: a fabulous job for the most part until that and

1144
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: a last playoff game for the Lions as their defensive coorter.

1145
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: In fact, he's one of the five finalists or Assistant

1146
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. Former player great player played many

1147
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: years in the NFL, had a long history with the

1148
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: New York Jets. But here's the problem, Rich, It's the Jets.

1149
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: They've had the longest playoff drought, not only of any

1150
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: NFL team currently, they have the longest playoff drought of

1151
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: any team in any of the four major team sports.

1152
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: That's a lot to overcome as a first time head coach.

1153
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: But do you agree with me?

1154
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: The first thing is I need an answer now on

1155
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, I you know, Aaron Rodgers wasn't

1156
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 4: the only problem for the Jets last year. Believe me,

1157
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 4: that defense underperformed mightily from when everyone expected before the

1158
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: season began. So Aaron Glenn's got to definitely figure out

1159
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: that defensive side of the football. One of the reasons

1160
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 4: I think he is a good higher because he is

1161
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 4: a defensive guy.

1162
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: They need to fix that defense. But you got to

1163
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: get an answer right now from Aaron Rodgers. Can't you

1164
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: can't play this out look you want to be here.

1165
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: He's certainly the best option I think for the Jets.

1166
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: He did not play terribly this year, so you know,

1167
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: he's their number one option. But if he's him and

1168
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: hawing about it, goodbye, see you later.

1169
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, there's only thirty two of these jobs.

1170
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: You definitely weren't going to go at, you know, I

1171
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: mean what twenty five of them? I mean, like, you

1172
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: know they're there. There's only so many slots open. And

1173
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: then amongst those teams that had head coaching vacancies available,

1174
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: some of those dance cards got full pretty quick. And

1175
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: so now you're talking about you're down to what three

1176
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: four viable options. Maybe some of those some of those

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: teams already have somebody in mind they want. They're not

1178
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: really going through the interview process, uh with with the

1179
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: the sort of open mind that other teams may be

1180
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: going through it with. Like it definitely felt like the

1181
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, for example, knew who they wanted, you know,

1182
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted to have Rabel. Yeah, and so

1183
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: the interview process really felt like they were checking boxes,

1184
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: making sure they were in compliance with the Rooney rule,

1185
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: and they were gonna move on to the guy they

1186
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: wanted the Bears with Ben Johnson unless Ben Johnson really

1187
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: wasn't going to take that gig if it felt like

1188
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: they had made up their mind. So not a checkboxes,

1189
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, and the list goes on sometimes, well in

1190
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: this case, so you're down to maybe three viable options

1191
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: for you to go head coach for you really think

1192
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn is walking into the Jets' front offices

1193
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: and demanding to know what they're going to do with

1194
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Now what he's doing is he's showing up

1195
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: and one of the questions he's answering is, hey, what

1196
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: would you do with Aaron Rodgers in our situation? And

1197
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: my guess is he gave them the most compelling answer

1198
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: or the answer they were looking for. Maybe it was

1199
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: something they hadn't thought of before how to handle this situation.

1200
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Maybe they loved the tact that they forecast he'll use

1201
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: with this very tricky situation with Aaron, you know. Maybe

1202
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: maybe they appreciated the fact that his sentiments agreed with theirs,

1203
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: and so there was gonna be no convincing him of

1204
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,959
Speaker 1: what to do with Aaron Rodgers situation. But yeah, I don't,

1205
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that conversation Steve went very differently

1206
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: than the one that you're thinking of. I don't think

1207
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: when you're auditioning for one of the only three jobs

1208
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: at the top of these programs in the NFL, you

1209
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: walk through the door demanding answers. Your your job is

1210
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: to answer questions, not ask them.

1211
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: All Right, one vacancy remains. That's the New Orleans Saints.

1212
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you three names, Rich, which one would

1213
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 2: you hire?

1214
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: Okay?

1215
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 2: Joe Brady Bill's offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore Eagles offensive coordinator,

1216
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: or Mike McCarthy if you're the Saints, who would you?

1217
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: By the way, all of them have been interviewed by

1218
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 2: the Saints organization.

1219
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: Well, who makes the most sense to me? Probably Joe Brady.

1220
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: So Joe Brady. He He obviously has got a tremendous

1221
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: amount out of Josh Allen after replacing Brian Dabole and

1222
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey before he took over as offensive coordinator in Buffalo.

1223
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: He also has spent time with the Saints as a coach.

1224
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 1: He was actually a grad assistant at Penn State before

1225
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: becoming an offensive assistant on the Saints' staff from twenty

1226
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: seventeen through the twenty eighteen season, and then worked as

1227
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator with Joe Burrow for LSU in

1228
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen before he was drafted. So he's spent time

1229
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: with the Saints obviously, has spent time down in Louisiana

1230
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: and spent time with some of the NFL's greatest quarterbacks

1231
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: in terms of working with Josh Allen currently and Joe

1232
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: Burrow in his recent pass. So, amongst the three choices

1233
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: you gave me, McCarthy, more or Brady, I would hire

1234
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: Brady over the other two.

1235
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Speaker 2: Now, by all accounts, Mike McCarthy made the final decision

1236
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: about leaving the Cowboys right. He decided that the deal

1237
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 2: that was being offered was not up to the level

1238
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: he thought he should get to be retained as the

1239
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: head coach of the Cowboys. If Joe Brady or Kellimore

1240
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: or somebody other than Mike McCarthy gets that Saint's job.

1241
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: Did Mike McCarthy miscalculate how much teams are seeking his

1242
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: expertise to become their next head coach. Do you think

1243
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: he walked away from the Cowboys job fully expecting that

1244
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: he would be a head coach elsewhere.

1245
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: No, No, because I think something similar happened in Green Bay.

1246
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't as mutual a parting of ways, or it

1247
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he had as much control over leaving

1248
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay. But I think Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers

1249
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: obviously didn't see perfectly Ey'd eye, even though they had

1250
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: coached and coached for or played for one another for

1251
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: a long time. So I think it was less or

1252
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: more uns ceremonious a departure from Green Bay. But he

1253
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: took a gap year, if you remember, he left Green Bay,

1254
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like all of a sudden the Dallas

1255
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: Cowboys were, oh, great, he's available, let's fire Jason Garrett

1256
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: and hire Mike McCarthy. No, that's not what happened. You

1257
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: know that he waited a full season. He was out

1258
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 1: of work for a full season, and then he was

1259
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 1: hired by the Cowboys after they let go of Jason Garrett.

1260
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: So I said this to you before, Steve, I think

1261
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: the same thing's gonna happen this time around. And I

1262
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: was saying this before he got his walking papers or

1263
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote decided to leave Dallas. They probably offered him

1264
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: a deal they knew he would refuse. They probably offered

1265
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: him a deal that was embarrassingly low. And the reason

1266
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: why I know that is because why would you offer

1267
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: him a good deal?

1268
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: You didn't extend him, but it was still a deal

1269
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: he could He still could have been the coach of

1270
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys.

1271
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how much money do you need?

1272
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Mike McCarthy, you know, is MyD millions of

1273
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 4: millions and millions.

1274
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Of dollars over many years as I head go to

1275
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: the NFL. I mean, I don't know. I think Mike

1276
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy really thought, no, there were other opportunities around the NFL.

1277
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: I think he thought it was highly possible, just like

1278
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: last time he was fired, that he would have to

1279
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: take a gap year. And I think he's comfortable with that.

1280
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: It worked out last time. And like you said, he's

1281
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: made millions of millions and millions of dollars, So why

1282
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: would you ever go back to work for less than

1283
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: what you feel your valued for, especially if it's worked

1284
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: out in the past where you took a gap year

1285
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: and came back. Look, the same thing just happened with

1286
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. Seahawks let go of him, hire Mike McDonald.

1287
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: He goes and becomes an adjunct professor at USC. He

1288
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,919
Speaker 1: still makes overtures that he's interested in football and coaching football.

1289
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: He gets hired as the raiders next head coach. So

1290
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't unprecedented. It's literally happened to Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy before his most recent hire. It just happened this

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Speaker 1: offseason with the Raiders and Pete Carroll, So I think

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Speaker 1: he's believing something similar will happen to him if he's

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Speaker 1: still interested, which I assume he would be in coaching

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes away from kickoff in the NFC Championship Game,

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Speaker 2: all the focus really is on Jaden Daniels trying to

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Speaker 2: become the first rookie quarterback ever to lead his team

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. But what about the other guy,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, who's been to a Super Bowl. We'll give

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Speaker 2: you a Hurtz update as we count down to kickoff.

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Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio, All right, what's getting we

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Speaker 2: are live from the tiraq dot com studios. We're just

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Speaker 2: like you, anxious for the kickoff of this NFC Championship

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Speaker 2: game between the Washington Commanders and Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, here's a.

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Speaker 2: Stat for you. In his last six playoff games, he

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Speaker 2: has thrown zero interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So in his last six playoff games, the three games

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Speaker 2: including the Super Bowl in the twenty twenty two season

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Speaker 2: they're lost last year, bad loss to Tampa, and then

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Speaker 2: the two playoff games this year, zero interceptions throw. I

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Speaker 2: want to get bow in here for a second because

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Speaker 2: he is our resident Eagles expert. Bo explain to me

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Speaker 2: how it is that Aj Brown has caught a total

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Speaker 2: of three passes in the two playoff games so far

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Speaker 2: in this postseason.

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Speaker 8: Because he's reading books on the sideline. I think he's

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Speaker 8: not reading books on how to catch. He's just reading

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Speaker 8: books on how to be a better man.

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Speaker 2: So I just again, I am predicting a comfortable Eagles

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Speaker 2: win today, But a lot of that is not just

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Speaker 2: predicated on Segon Barkley going off, which I think he

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Speaker 2: will again. The Eagles with the number two ranked rushing

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Speaker 2: offense in the league versus the third worst rushing defense.

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Speaker 2: Then take a real genius to figure out how that

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Speaker 2: may go. But they're gonna have to get some passing

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Speaker 2: game going here, and A J. Brown is a Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: I I was mentioning to Martin in the break something

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Speaker 8: that Martin mentioned last year talking about Jordan Love's contract,

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Speaker 8: where you know, everybody talks about the last six games

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Speaker 8: that he had last year, but no one want to

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Speaker 8: talk about the first ten. All pregame here they're talking

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Speaker 8: about Jaden Daniels and the stats that pop up are

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Speaker 8: his stats from the second game against the Eagles at

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Speaker 8: the Commanders won no mention of the first game that

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Speaker 8: they played earlier in the year, where the Commanders lost convincingly,

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Speaker 8: and even then, when you go look at that second

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Speaker 8: game that they played, Washington got every single possible break

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Speaker 8: that they could get in that game and it still

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Speaker 8: took them, you know, scoring a play, scoring a touchd

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Speaker 8: on the final play of the game to win. So

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Speaker 8: I think you're right, Steve, Like, it's probably gonna be

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Speaker 8: like a forty two to three blowout if Philly's gonna

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Speaker 8: win this.

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Speaker 9: Wow, wow, forty two that's more than I thought I

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Speaker 9: I Jayden Daniels hasn't played particularly well against Philly this year,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, I cannot imagine that you're gonna see key

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Speaker 9: drops from AJ Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard all again in.

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Speaker 1: The side game.

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Speaker 2: Can't say he didn't play.

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Speaker 4: He had five touchdown passes though, Yeah, but he's still

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Speaker 4: threw like Eddy three hundred and thirty nine Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: total offen.

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Speaker 8: The Eagles could not do anything because they lost their

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Speaker 8: starting quarterback four plays into that game thanks to a

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Speaker 8: noted clean player, Frankie Louvu fine.

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Speaker 4: By the way, for the hit he threw on Jared

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Speaker 4: Goff that was not called a flag.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the fact that you know, Jalen Urtz has

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Speaker 2: been clean in terms of zero interceptions over his last

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Speaker 2: six playoffs starts were rich and the two playoff wins

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Speaker 2: so far against Green Bay and the Rams, he threw

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty one yards and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty eight yards. I mean, they're just they're handing

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Speaker 2: the ball to sake, which makes sense because it's obviously

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Speaker 2: working at some point. Though, shouldn't we see a little

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Speaker 2: I said before, if the Eagles are ultimately gonna win

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Speaker 2: it all, we have to see the Jalen Hurts that

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Speaker 2: we saw two years ago, because I believe that that's

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Speaker 2: gonna take that, especially if they get to the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and have to play either the Bills or the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: He can't just hand the ball off to Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: And I just don't think it's possibly. I think Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts has got to come and play at a different level.

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Speaker 1: I think Steve that you're falling under the same spell.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Baltimore Ravens fall under every time

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Speaker 1: they play in an important game. Like I'll give you

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Speaker 1: an example, last year's AFC Championship game against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it turned into the Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: passing Hour, and it's like, what are we doing? That's

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Speaker 1: not how this team is built. This team is built

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Speaker 1: with the run game. So hand the ball off, let

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson run all over the field, and let's try

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Speaker 1: to win this game the way the Baltimore Ravens have

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Speaker 1: been built to win games. Same thing this year. I

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Speaker 1: mean in the Divisional round against the Buffalo Bills, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what were they doing. They only handed off to Derek Henry.

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Speaker 1: What sixteen times. That's not enough. I mean, so, I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're falling into the same track that the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens have fallen into in consecutive playoff appearances and losses.

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Speaker 1: Is don't get away from got you there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles should hand the ball off to, say KWin

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Speaker 1: Barkley as much as they possibly.

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Speaker 4: To to help to steal this down. For Rich, in

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Speaker 4: the words of wise philosopher Brent Key, run the ball, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I say, Now, run of the bowel Martin. Open up

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 4: Martin's mike here, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Ma, So Rich's point, in the five games in which

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Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts has thrown for less than one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty yards of this season, Eagles by and zero.

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Speaker 1: There you go. There you go to take two and

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Speaker 1: zero in the playoffs. Now, Steve, I'm with you. If

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has an amazing game and they win, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: But that's not the way they're built to win this season.

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Speaker 1: So why on the outset of the game would you

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Speaker 1: be thinking to yourself, Well, what the Eagles need to

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Speaker 1: do is completely change what has really worked for them

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Speaker 1: this season and concentrate on Jalen Hurts having a big game.

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Speaker 1: Screw that. Give the ball to sequent Barkley unless he's

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Speaker 1: missing a leg, and then honestly, maybe let's hand it

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01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: off to him a couple of times to see what

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 1: he can do hopping around the football field.

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Speaker 8: This game is why Sakuan didn't play in Week eighteen.

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 8: He needs to get thirty five to forty carries today.

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01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: That's rock and roll well, and he may very well

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Speaker 4: get that many carries.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm gonna have to concede this fact.

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01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: When they went to the Super Bowl two years ago

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Speaker 2: and the two playoff wins against the Giants and the

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, he had I'm talking about Jalen Hurts

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: on hundred and fifty four yards passing one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty one yards. Then of course in the Big three

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Speaker 2: to zero four against the Chiefs, and yeah, they lost

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01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: that game. Okay, I might have to concede a little bit.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, man, but I am ready

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 4: to get to some football right now. Will have it

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Speaker 4: coverage for you as we always do, Eagles Commanders.

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Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We're ready for some football on this Championship Sunday.

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Speaker 2: NFC Championship game about to kick off right now between

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Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Washingon Commanders. Obviously, the Commanders turn

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01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: around this year phenomenal. I certainly think that Dan Quinn

1443
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 2: is very much in the conversation to be this year's

1444
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. And by the way, I don't

1445
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: know if you saw this, there's been a lot of

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01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: talk about Daniel Snyder, the former owner of this washing

1447
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: and franchise, who apparently has now moved to London and

1448
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: obviously cash in big member. They sold the franchise for

1449
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: six billion dollars, so he's living the good life, except

1450
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Speaker 2: the fact that by all accounts, he's not happy right now.

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01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: The fact that a franchise, well, I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 2: Paul Taglibu was the commissioner of the NFL when Dan

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Speaker 2: Snyder bought the Washington franchise, and Paul Taglibu is on

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Speaker 2: the record saying that Daniel Snyder is the worst owner

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Speaker 2: in the history of the National Football League, taking over

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Speaker 2: one of the best franchises in the league. Remember they

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Speaker 2: had sellouts forever, right. I mean, this is a franchise

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01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: that have won three Super Bowls under Joe Gibbs. I mean,

1459
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Speaker 2: one of the most successful franchises in the league. And

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Speaker 2: he turned him into a perennial loser no matter what

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Speaker 2: he did. And then as soon as he's out of

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Speaker 2: the picture. Last year was that first year where you know,

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: we're sort of feeling our way. They make the coaching chain,

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Speaker 2: they bring in Dan Quinn, they bring in this rookie

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01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: phenom and Jayden Daniels, and here they are rich for

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Speaker 2: the first time in thirty three years. They are playing

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Speaker 2: for an NFC championship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's incredible, It is incredible, and it

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: goes it goes a long way to show you how

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Speaker 1: insidious poor leadership can be. I mean, Dan Dan Snyder

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Speaker 1: was not a good leader. He was not good for

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Speaker 1: the NFL, he wasn't good for that franchise. But he

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01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: was powerful and influential and he had control of one

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: of these thirty two, insanely profitable sports enterprises for a

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Speaker 1: long time before he was literally forced out by the

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Speaker 1: rest of his peers. I mean, you know, obviously that

1477
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: was due to abuses and things like that, but it's

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01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: it's just amazing how important it is to have good

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: li leadership in place. And it doesn't just stop at

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: head coaching or general manager, your ownership. If you are

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01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: a sports fan, the ownership over your team matters a lot.

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01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: And we've seen this play out time and time again,

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01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,959
Speaker 1: not just in the NFL, Steve, but also Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 1: the NBA and beyond. You need good owners absolutely.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the commanders will have the ball first.

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Speaker 4: Chris, Yes, just real quick on Dan Snyder, very early,

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Speaker 4: just on how long this has gone on? Very early

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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 4: sports like writing. Memory of mine was Hunter S. Thompson

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Speaker 4: writing in the early ESPN dot com pages two, just

1490
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: like unloading on Dan Snyder, who at that point was

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: a young man just buying up the team, and even

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Speaker 4: back then calling him out.

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Speaker 3: Well, I that's how long it's gone.

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: When Hunter S. Thompson was writing about it, Well, this

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: is the point I get about these other you know,

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: coaches trying to revive organizations. It starts at the top, folks.

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Speaker 2: It always seems the start of the talk. All right,

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01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: So the right off the bat, pressure on Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 2: on his first pass, he did escape a sack out

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Speaker 2: of one yard.

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Speaker 1: Game.

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Speaker 2: Now they're facing a third down on this opening drive.

1503
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: But I means, let's again let's remind everybody, as great

1504
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: as the commanders looked last week, that was against a

1505
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 2: broken down, injury riddled Lions defense. This Eagles defense, number

1506
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: one in the NFL in total defense, number one in

1507
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 2: the league in pass defense, and pass defense has to

1508
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 2: do not just with great coverage but obviously putting pressure

1509
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 2: on the quarterback. So we'll see how the rookie handles it.

1510
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: But on this opening drive, that is an incomplete pass

1511
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: and there is no flag.

1512
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 8: No, they're saying that's a catch.

1513
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 2: Well, they're saying it is a catch. McLaurin actually caught

1514
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, yeah, okay, he did. Yes, trapped that

1515
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: very well.

1516
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. They had a little isolation route to the right

1517
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 1: side of the offense and he was able to convert

1518
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: and we're looking at a third and six here.

1519
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he got the he got the first down there.

1520
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: As usual, Steve.

1521
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 8: Are you just gonna keep looking for ways to pooh

1522
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 8: poo the Lions last week or.

1523
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 2: What do you mean poop pool?

1524
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 8: Well, that's just like the fourth or fifth time that

1525
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 8: you've mentioned that.

1526
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: The well, I mean it was it was disaster. They

1527
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: were the one seed going again the rookie quarterback, and

1528
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: they lost forty five thirty one.

1529
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 4: There is no spin that was a disaster for the

1530
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 4: Lions last week.

1531
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: Back to squad defense. So let's go back to right now.

1532
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 2: Uh the Eagles again, looks like short they're coming, by

1533
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: the way, Are the Commanders gonna run the ball?

1534
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1535
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: They are throwing literally rich on every single play to

1536
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: start this game.

1537
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're We're really they're spreading the football around

1538
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1539
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 8: If if there's one thing that Jayden Daniels looks like

1540
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 8: he can take, it's a lot of hits. So yeah,

1541
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 8: I would just keep rolling out there. Yeah, no RB

1542
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 8: in the back field, no pass protection. Just see what happens.

1543
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: Well, another third down. They got the first down on

1544
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: the last third down play third and six right now,

1545
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: and the Commanders are actually near a midfield if they

1546
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: get the first down, will be pass midfield. But yeah,

1547
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: they have thrown the ball on every single play so far.

1548
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: Third down pass is complete and first down.

1549
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I think they.

1550
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: Really interestingly get a fourth down play at some point

1551
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 4: just because like it, we know how aggressive.

1552
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: They get aggressive on fourth down.

1553
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, the I think the league has definitely

1554
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: shifted in that direction. But also when you have such

1555
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: a mobile threat at quarterback, it helped. That was a

1556
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: nice job by Jaden Daniels finding the open receiver on

1557
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: that third down play. I mean well short of the sticks,

1558
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: but was able to convert with a low throw. Wasn't

1559
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: the most accurate pass that he had. I think it

1560
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of surprised him that he had a receiver that

1561
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: wide open.

1562
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: All right, so that was their first one. They said,

1563
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: well they had run, run, It wasn't. It was a

1564
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: scramble by Jaden Daniels to avoid a sack on the

1565
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 2: first place or run first plan run and right now

1566
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 2: the commanders are moving the ball. What did you think

1567
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: of the over runner in this game?

1568
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Rich the total being around what forty eight? Yeah? I

1569
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: think the last time I checked in on it. It

1570
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: makes sense. Look, a lot of these championship games can

1571
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: be lower scoring because these especially two teams like this

1572
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: Division rivals the third time facing each other, you assume

1573
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: the defenses will find a way to corral the scoring.

1574
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: And also colder weather games, both of these being outdoor

1575
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: games in both this game.

1576
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: But weather it's really not a factor today. It's like

1577
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: forty degrees maybe in Philadelphia. Kansas City is going to

1578
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: be in the low thirties. And again, all four of

1579
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: these teams are outdoor cold teams, right so you know

1580
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: whether it will be a zero factor in either one

1581
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: of these games.

1582
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: It does matter some not going to be obvious a

1583
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: focus here of this game, like you mentioned, because all

1584
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: four of these teams play outdoors, playing cold weather cities.

1585
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: But that's just another one of those notches. But I

1586
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: think it really has everything to do with the fact

1587
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: that they've they've faced each other so much this season

1588
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: that you would assume that one of the things. And

1589
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: you're seeing the Eagles do it a lot. On this drive.

1590
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: They're sitting back and cover two, they're playing zone. They're

1591
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: trying to keep everything in front of them to prevent

1592
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: the big play.

1593
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: All right, So a four down play right now and

1594
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 2: they are going to go for it near midfield.

1595
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

1596
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: YEA, So four and five at the Eagles forty three

1597
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: yard line. If they don't get a first down here,

1598
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to get some really really good

1599
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: field position and Daniels will pass and he's got the

1600
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: first down.

1601
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

1602
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 4: So this kid look ice in his veins, ice in

1603
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 4: his veins.

1604
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't show a lot of emotion. You know, we

1605
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,480
Speaker 2: were watching it last week, you know, against the Lions,

1606
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 2: where every time they showed him sitting on the bench

1607
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 2: while the defense was out there, he just seemed to be,

1608
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, sitting like a park bench, you know, just

1609
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: sort of killing time. So he doesn't seem to be

1610
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: phased by the moment. And again, if you don't know already,

1611
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels trying to become the first rookie quarterback ever

1612
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: to lead his team to the Super Bowl. The previous

1613
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: five rookie quarterbacks that got to the conference championship game

1614
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: all lost. But really it's a short passing game. They're

1615
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: just going for a little dink passes, four or five

1616
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: yard passes to move the ball. So far, so good.

1617
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I love the idea keep the ball close to the

1618
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, especially considering, like I just said, the

1619
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: Eagles are staying in zone you know when the if

1620
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna sit back there and there are

1621
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: two deep zones in their cover three, just feast on

1622
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: the underneath route. Don't get greedy, take what they're given

1623
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: to you.

1624
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing. They're mixing and only an

1625
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 4: occasional run. Right now, I want to ask Bo this

1626
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 4: question about the Eagles.

1627
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: We know they have a tough fan base, to say

1628
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 2: the least. If the Eagles were to lose this game today,

1629
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: how does that sit with a guy like Nick Sirianni,

1630
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: who you wanted out the door last year. You really

1631
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: haven't changed despite their success this year. But how do

1632
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 2: you think that would be received if the Eagles were

1633
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: to actually lose this game?

1634
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 8: I think winning a couple of playoff games probably bottom

1635
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 8: a year. I think the underrated thing with Sirianni is, well,

1636
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 8: we're all outside observers, but for whatever reason, the locker

1637
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 8: room loves the guy, so he's really not going to

1638
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 8: go anywhere.

1639
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out another fourth down play for the Commanders.

1640
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Now they got a fourth and two, and as you said, Rich,

1641
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 2: this team is used to it.

1642
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 4: Now a little different here. This is at the twenty

1643
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 4: eight yard line.

1644
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 3: Of the Eagles.

1645
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Fourth and two for the Commanders, and we'll see if

1646
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels he's delivered on every third down, he's delivered

1647
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: on every four it down. He has been modest role

1648
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 2: on this opening drive.

1649
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 4: And he's gonna scramble for the first down and then

1650
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 4: some so he gets the ball down to the twenty

1651
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 4: two yard line. So right now this Eagles defense ranked

1652
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 4: number one in the NFL. He lost a shoe on

1653
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 4: the plate, so he did needn't lost a shoe.

1654
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 2: But right now the Commanders are rolling on this opening drive.

1655
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the way they're executing. I think that

1656
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: they they especially on an opening drive, you could tell

1657
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot about an offensive coordinator in Cliff Kingsbury, no

1658
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: stranger to opening scripts with mobile quarterbacks, did it for

1659
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: years as the coordinator and head coach in Arizona with

1660
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He's doing a nice job with Daniels. They're

1661
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: keeping the pass routes close to line of scrimmage. They're

1662
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: taking what the defense is giving him. But also, I mean,

1663
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's getting in the headset and saying, okay,

1664
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: look if they're rushing for and there's nothing open underneath,

1665
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: take off take off, you know what I mean, And

1666
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they're doing. They're coverage and he's feasting

1667
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: on the open run lanes. Yeah.

1668
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 8: You know what I like the most about those Jane

1669
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 8: Daniel scrambles is when they show the replay afterwards of

1670
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 8: how graceful it is and you can see the offensive

1671
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 8: lineman just with a handful of jersey, your shoulder back,

1672
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 8: flag not getting thrown.

1673
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Spoken like a true Eagles fan.

1674
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: Well, all right, right now, second and long for the

1675
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: that ball? Did that ball hit the ground? Didn't He

1676
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 2: fished it up pretty well? Well right now the Eagles

1677
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: is saying that thing hit the ground, But I think

1678
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna call it.

1679
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit that hit.

1680
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an incomplete pass. So third and nine coming

1681
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 4: up here for the commanders.

1682
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 8: At what point do we call Dan Quinn reckless like

1683
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 8: people like to call Dan Campbell, like if they get

1684
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 8: if it's like fourth and four, here are you going

1685
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 8: for it again?

1686
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 1: Boy?

1687
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 4: I mean Dan would have probably Campbell would have taken

1688
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 4: like a field goal at this point.

1689
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean it feels like he kind of you. You're

1690
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: on the road, you want the point. So it's so early,

1691
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know, I don't know.

1692
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 4: I mean this is I kind of I kind of

1693
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 4: get it too, because I think if you're the Commanders,

1694
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: there's no because of how much the Eagles want to

1695
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 4: run the ball, there's like no point in this game

1696
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 4: where you want the Eagles to dictate the pace of

1697
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 4: this game. Well, guys, and they will just run you

1698
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 4: to death. All right, fourth and three right now the

1699
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: Commanders and danels Is going to the sideline, so they're

1700
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,799
Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna take the points.

1701
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not that reckless. I would go for it.

1702
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 2: I'd fake it.

1703
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 4: Wether I I don't think they're gonna fake it.

1704
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, you don't like fun. See.

1705
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: First of all the problem with fakes is that you're

1706
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 2: getting people to have to do things they normally don't do,

1707
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, like a holder throwing the ball all the time. Yeah,

1708
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 2: and how that can zing Gonzalez's kick the field goals?

1709
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 2: So there we go, opening drive us success for the Commanders.

1710
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: They put three on the board. We're rolling with our

1711
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: coverage of this game and the upcoming AFC Championship game.

1712
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 2: This is Red Zone all right, once again live from

1713
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 2: the Tairaq dot Com studios. So on their opening drive.

1714
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: The Commanders eighteen plays fifty four yards. That's exactly three

1715
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 2: yards per play to get a field goal. The Eagles

1716
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: opening drive, one play, sixty yards. Hand the ball to

1717
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, first play for the Eagles, and he runs

1718
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. This is sort of playing now as

1719
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: I expected. Again, we have the number two rushing offense,

1720
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 2: the number one running back in the league, against one

1721
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: of the absolute worst rushing defenses in the league, and

1722
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: they got exposed in one play. It wasn't just Barkley.

1723
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 2: He ran through guys, He ran around guys, and the

1724
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Commanders had simply no answer. So just like that, seven

1725
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: to three Eagles, and you're gonna have to go back

1726
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: to the drawing board because otherwise we're gonna see a

1727
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 2: record day from sa Kwon Barkley today.

1728
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very possible. Now, I want to give a

1729
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: lot of credit where lot of credit is due. This

1730
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line opens up gaping holes in the defense.

1731
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: I mean, Saquon Barkley's great, there's no question about that,

1732
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: and I'll discuss his greatness to greater length in a moment.

1733
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: But he was untouched until he was fifteen yards downfield.

1734
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: On an outside sweep play. It's tough to do. It's

1735
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: tough to get everybody organized enough so that there is

1736
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: in a single red helmet near Saquon Barkley until he's

1737
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: ten yards beyond the line of scrimmage. Now here's what

1738
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: makes Saquon great is he consistently makes the last man

1739
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: miss in blocking schemes. Since you give up one of

1740
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: your players to the play side in the quarterback Jalen

1741
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: Hurts has to hand off the ball and carry out

1742
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: a fake or whatever, there's always an extra man on

1743
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: the defense. And usually you try to make that extra

1744
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: man on the defense farthest from the football, whether it's

1745
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: a corner or a safety or backside linebacker. And you

1746
01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: usually when you drop up a blocking scheme, you say,

1747
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 1: all right, well that guy is for the back, meaning

1748
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: your running back now needs to make one man miss

1749
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: for this to be an explosive play. And what makes

1750
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley great is he consistently makes that last man miss.

1751
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: And he did on that play, and he rushed it

1752
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 1: in for a long touchdown. And so now the Eagles

1753
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 1: lead seven to three.

1754
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one play sixty yards.

1755
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: That previous drive though eighteen plays for fifty four yards.

1756
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 4: One of you had seen that three yards per play,

1757
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 4: and the Commanders right now are facing a third and one.

1758
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 4: The one thing that I'm noticing from this Eagles defense though,

1759
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 4: right now, is with Jaden Daniels throwing the ball as

1760
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 4: much as he had, he's getting time, rich. I mean,

1761
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 4: it's not like he's, you know, running for his life

1762
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 4: right now.

1763
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: He's got plenty of time to look down the field.

1764
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: He's been checking down obviously taking the shorter passes. And

1765
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 2: by the way, the Commanders get a first down on

1766
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: a very short run. But you know, this is interesting

1767
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 2: how this all played out. I mean to give you

1768
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 2: an idea. We have six minutes to go in the

1769
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 2: first quarter. Jaden Daniels has already thrown thirteen passes. Yeah,

1770
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 2: thirteen passes. I mean, he's on bas Rover fifty in

1771
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: this game, and they're just dinking and donkey, He's only

1772
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: thrown for forty four yards on eight completions. Now they

1773
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 2: get a little play here, but oh fumble and it

1774
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: is recovered by the Eagles.

1775
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 3: Wow.

1776
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: So they finally got a little bit of a crossing pattern,

1777
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,520
Speaker 2: but the Eagles stripped the ball and the Eagles recover.

1778
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 2: And this is the one thing again last week, the

1779
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 2: Commanders no turnovers. The Lions had five. That was the difference.

1780
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 2: But there they get stripped and the Eagles recover.

1781
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: No, you can't have it. And so yeah, they just

1782
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: run a little slant route with a little screen in

1783
01:37:55,800 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: front of their receiver and he coughed it up. Is

1784
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: so bad. That is so bad because like, look, this

1785
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: was a situation where you know, I understand you're battling

1786
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: for extra yardage as you're crossing the field, but Brown

1787
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: had the football. Yeah, I mean, it's I get what

1788
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: he was trying to do.

1789
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 2: Look, he was a six yard play rich he wasn't

1790
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: gonna get the first time.

1791
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: No, you gotta know when to hit the ground. And

1792
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Cooper de Jon did a nice job getting in there,

1793
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: get his hands on the football. Eagles knock it out

1794
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: and recover. So it's gonna be Eagles ball when the

1795
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: broadcast returns. I get it. I mean. And Brown had

1796
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: a big game last week against the Lions. He's had

1797
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,480
Speaker 1: a nice season to finish up here for the Commanders.

1798
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 2: But a yeah, how about this, you're ready for these numbers?

1799
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 2: I love this offensive plays the Commanders have twenty one.

1800
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: The Eagles have one time of possession, Commanders eight minutes

1801
01:38:54,560 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 2: and fifty seven seconds, Eagles eighteen seconds, twenty one to one,

1802
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: eight fifty seven to eighteen. So those numbers very much

1803
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: in the Commander's favor, but the scoreboard says Eagles seven

1804
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 2: and the Commander's three. All right, So after what we

1805
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: saw in that last carry by Barkley, like you said,

1806
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 2: great blocking up front by the Eagles, but there were

1807
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 2: a number of Commander players. It wasn't just the last

1808
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: guy he beat. He did a spin move. There were

1809
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 2: two Commander players that had their hands on him. Don't

1810
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: take this guy on high. He just ran right through

1811
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: those guys, did a little cross run, and then the

1812
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: rest of his history.

1813
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 3: So what do you do?

1814
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta believe the Commander's defensive game plan

1815
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: was we got to load up and stop or slow

1816
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: down Barkley, and if Jalen hurts beats us, so be it.

1817
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 2: And yet the first play could not have gone any worse.

1818
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 1: It's it's tough, man, It's it's one of these It's

1819
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 1: one of these games where mistakes are going to decide it.

1820
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 1: And I mean this truly for either side, because we

1821
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: see how dynamic over the court of season Jayden Daniels is.

1822
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: We've seen over the season how dynamic Saquon Barkley is.

1823
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: So if your defense can find a way to cause

1824
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: a turnover, special teams, I promise you special teams could

1825
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: be a turning point in this game too. If you

1826
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: have a big return for a touchdown or you know

1827
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: one that gets you bond beyond the fifty yard line

1828
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and guarantees you points on a drive, like those things

1829
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: are gonna matter because again, like I said to you, see,

1830
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: if I do think this is gonna be a close game,

1831
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: and I think every single possession matters. However, it could

1832
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: get out of hand for one side or the other,

1833
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: like we saw in the divisional round on the NFC side,

1834
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: which gained the Washington Commanders' access to that NFC Championship game.

1835
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: If a team commits too many turnovers, because there's no

1836
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: coming back from that, So the Commanders better protect the football.

1837
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: But likewise, for the Eagles, you cannot cough it up

1838
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: and you better play tight on special teams as well.

1839
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: Your former Arizona Cardinals teammate Kerry Rhodes sat in yesterday

1840
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 2: with me with Moncey out and I had him do

1841
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 2: my picks, you know, because I've been not great with

1842
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 2: my picks. And he made his bold prediction, you know

1843
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 2: those bold predictions for this game. And his bold prediction

1844
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: for this game was is that Saquon Barkley would have

1845
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,879
Speaker 2: less than one hundred yards rushing. Wow, you got sixty

1846
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 2: on his first carry. Yeah, So really, he need to

1847
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 2: ask you this, what would be more?

1848
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: What would be more of a bold prediction? And I

1849
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: mean this that has less than one hundred or more

1850
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: than two hundred, which is the bolder prediction.

1851
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 2: Less than hundred is a much bolder at this point.

1852
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 2: I mean the way he's going, I mean you can

1853
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: just see it.

1854
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 4: I mean the when when you're a great player, regardless

1855
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: of position, but when you're in a great player and

1856
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 4: you're in the zone. I mean, first of all, to

1857
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 4: be a great player, there's already a little sense of.

1858
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: What is it? What is invincibility? But when you're in

1859
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: the zone, no, it's a whole thing.

1860
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Oral Herscheizer when he had that

1861
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,440
Speaker 2: streak of fifty nine consecutive scoreless innings, five straight shutouts.

1862
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 2: He goes during that time, and he was a great

1863
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 2: pitcher otherwise, but he goes during that time, every pitch

1864
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 2: I threw was exactly where I wanted it.

1865
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1866
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 4: Every pitch, Yeah, every pitch, Every pitch was where I

1867
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 4: got a spot. I'm hitting the spot every single We

1868
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 4: see it in golf, right, you see like a tiger,

1869
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 4: you know, when you're in the zone, boom, just everything. Well,

1870
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 4: that's what Saquon Barkley is right now running the football

1871
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 4: in golf.

1872
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: It's almost like the whole looks like a hula hoop,

1873
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 1: like you know, you're just your you can't miss. Yeah,

1874
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 1: you're putting into a lake instead of It's really it's

1875
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: incredible how the brain can play tricks on you. And

1876
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. For Saquon Barkley right now, he's just

1877
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 1: seeing it. And by the way, when I say is

1878
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: it a Boulder prediction that he'll run under one hundred

1879
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: yards or more than two hundred yards, I'm talking pregame

1880
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: and I agree with you, Steve, because to me, there's

1881
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: no way in my brain, no way that that Saquon

1882
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: Barkley carries it for less than one hundred yards in

1883
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: this game.

1884
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: Just well, I mean today, what's happening though on this

1885
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 2: drive he hasn't carried at once. Now he has carried

1886
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 2: in walks into the end zone touchdown. Eagles. They came

1887
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: out throwing the ball, spreading around to Smith and Brown,

1888
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,520
Speaker 2: but Saquon walks into the end zone. So two carries,

1889
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: two touchdowns for Saquon Barkley, and the Eagles, awaiting the

1890
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: extra point, have jumped off to a thirteen to three lead.

1891
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: And I get it. I get the interest in having

1892
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: AJ Brown and Smith involved in the game plan early on,

1893
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 1: because you never know if this is going to be

1894
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: a tight game, which it very well may be, you

1895
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 1: got to make sure to get them touches to keep

1896
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: their heads in this game. But Saquon Barkley, I mean

1897
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: that play breaking out side of the way it did

1898
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't designed at all to hit in the Holy Tuket.

1899
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: I mean this, this play was designed to be in

1900
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 1: between tackle and guard playside to his offensive right, and

1901
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: he saw a safety quick fill and he said, all right,

1902
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: I'll put the brakes on real quick, and he did,

1903
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: and he just ran it right outside the uh the

1904
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: last player which was the corner to that side, who

1905
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: was following A. J. Brown inside because he was he

1906
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: was playing for the pass. He was making sure it

1907
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,640
Speaker 1: wasn't play action, doing his responsibility, never thinking that he

1908
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: was going to have to be the contained player. So

1909
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 1: Saquan ran it around him. The extra point is good,

1910
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: so the commanders have a seven excuse me, the commander's

1911
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: trail now by eleven points here early on.

1912
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, my prediction is looking good.

1913
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, all right, let's find out what is

1914
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 4: trending right now.

1915
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: You guys just stole all my thunder.

1916
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, buddy.

1917
01:44:55,560 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 7: If you listen to rich Ornberger left.

1918
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 2: Take your time. Yeah, yeah, no, listen, what do you

1919
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 2: wanted to say?

1920
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Martin?

1921
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 2: You go for and you know what.

1922
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,839
Speaker 1: You could start like, I mean, if there's like Gaelic

1923
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: football going on, or you know, if there's crickets score

1924
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: up there.

1925
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 7: Let me see what the hockey game between per Duor

1926
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 7: and Northwestern.

1927
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 1: What the score is there?

1928
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 7: Fourteen to three with three forty five left in the

1929
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 7: first quarter of the NFC championship game. And if it

1930
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 7: continues like this, it will be remembered as the Saquon

1931
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:33,480
Speaker 7: Barkley game. He's got two carries, sixty four yards, two touchdowns,

1932
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 7: so exactly, he's been the star the shows thus far.

1933
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts three for four forty one yards through the air,

1934
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 7: twenty of those to Devonte Smith on a questionable completion.

1935
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 7: I personally thought it was looked incomplete to me, but

1936
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 7: you know, he didn't get.

1937
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 3: A challenge in there. A. J.

1938
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 7: Brown has one catch in eleven yards, one two targets.

1939
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels nine for fourteen fifty yards through the air,

1940
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 7: no touchdowns, Brian Robinson eleven yards Russian Daniels had.

1941
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 3: Six yards rushing as well.

1942
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 7: Commanders dominating in the time possession thus far. They've ran

1943
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 7: way more plays in the first quarter. First quarter for

1944
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 7: scoring drive where they kicked that thirty four yard field

1945
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 7: goal with A Gonzales was an eighteen play drive, so

1946
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 7: the Commanders get the ball back coming here after the

1947
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 7: game Hens from the commercial break again fourteen to three,

1948
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 7: three forty three left in the first quarter, six point thirty.

1949
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 7: Eastern Kansas City hosts Buffalo in the AFC Championship Game.

1950
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 7: Kansas City seventh consecutive AFC Championship game and the Chiefs

1951
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 7: currently trying to win the franchise's third straight Super Bowl.

1952
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 7: Ohio State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles is leaving the Buckeyes

1953
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 7: to take the same role at Penn State. His contract's

1954
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 7: supposed to average three point one million dollars over the

1955
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 7: next three years. And in men's college basketball, Texas and

1956
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 7: Florida Atlantic tide forty eight apiece, Illinois with a twenty

1957
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 7: four to eight lead over Northwestern with seven thirty left

1958
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 7: in the first half. Oklahoma State and Texas Tech the

1959
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 7: Red Raiders with a twenty four to twenty one leave

1960
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 7: with six forty five left in the first half. In

1961
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 7: Wichita State leads Tulsa thirty two to twenty seven five

1962
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 7: minutes left in the first half.

1963
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Hi Martin, thank you very much,

1964
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 2: and I promise you next time we will not steal

1965
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 2: your thunder.

1966
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I will well to do. Actually, you know what, and Martin,

1967
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: this is true for everybody. One of the things I

1968
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 1: learned early in my broadcast career as a color analyst

1969
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: is you can't give the score to the game enough.

1970
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, people are tuning in to listen to this

1971
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: radio show, there's no question about it. But the more

1972
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 1: we can say. Eagle's currently leading fourteen to three over

1973
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders in the NFC Championship game and updating

1974
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: the score. That's that's what people want to know.

1975
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 2: Oh wait a second, I like to throw in time

1976
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 2: as well. Three forty three to go in the first

1977
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 2: quarter a baby.

1978
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 4: All right, So the commanders with the ball now, and

1979
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 4: as you dig a hole, yeah, yeah, it makes it

1980
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 4: even more difficult because now you're almost tipping your hand

1981
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 4: in what you got to go. I mean it's too

1982
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 4: early now for the commanders obviously to just sit there

1983
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 4: and pass the ball. I mean, you know again, three

1984
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 4: thirty seven go now in the first quarter.

1985
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 2: But you know, if you dig a hole, it's gonna

1986
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: make it easy bow for your egos defense to Uh.

1987
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 8: That's why Washington just handed it off on the first

1988
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 8: play that you got to keep Philly guessing.

1989
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 4: Right, well, that only got two yards and not much

1990
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 4: of a running game. They're averaging less than three yards

1991
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 4: of carry. Ranted again, are they run run? Passing down

1992
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 4: eleven points?

1993
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

1994
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 4: All right, so now you got probably third and five

1995
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm looking at right here to establish the run.

1996
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. Maybe let me ask

1997
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 1: you this.

1998
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 2: If they like here, if they don't get a first

1999
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 2: down here deep in their own territory, would you dare

2000
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 2: go for it.

2001
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 8: Oh in the first quarter. That's the whole identity. Yes,

2002
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 8: that's that's your whole identity. Is going for on fourth down.

2003
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: Okay, so from their own thirty one yard line right now,

2004
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 2: third and six for the Commanders. Another pass coming up

2005
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 2: from Jaydon Daniels down the field and it's almost as accepted.

2006
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 2: So three Eagles in coverage, one receiver not close. McLaurin

2007
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 2: was out there, and the Commanders will punt're.

2008
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 8: Not going all right? Fire Cliff King's very high.

2009
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: Is that it is the game's over.

2010
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 3: I got I'm going for.

2011
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 4: It's not trending in the right direction right now for

2012
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 4: the Commanders, it's this is the worst possible start they

2013
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 4: could have possibly had, because thing.

2014
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: About it was, who thought that this Commander's defense was

2015
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 2: going to stop the run?

2016
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2017
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 4: I mean whoo, I mean they can't stop anybody. The

2018
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 4: Lions imploded with five turnovers another one including that ugly

2019
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 4: pick six the jered.

2020
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: So it's not going well.

2021
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 8: If you want my actual opinion, it's because we're so

2022
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 8: overwhelmed with.

2023
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 2: Oh waits fake pot fake told.

2024
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 3: Wow wow.

2025
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 4: Wow, fake believe punters is the best quarterback to twos

2026
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 4: in the league.

2027
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 2: That was the best downfield pass we've seen so far.

2028
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 3: And it wasn't an easy pass, by the way.

2029
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 4: I gotta pull it over defenders and boom right there,

2030
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,600
Speaker 4: right now, it's midfield.

2031
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: The Commander's right back at it.

2032
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: The Eagles and Commanders, bullshit, think about starting the Commander's

2033
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: quarter punter at quarterback. This guy he can heave it.

2034
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful throat.

2035
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, like you said, this has been

2036
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,839
Speaker 2: the dan Quinn way all year long. Yeah, it's part

2037
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 2: so flat footed in that situation. Are you're gonna punt

2038
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 2: down fourteen to three?

2039
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 4: No, this is not what the Commanders have been doing

2040
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 4: all right, Jana and Daniels has just gotten sacked and

2041
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 4: he's trying to scramble around, but the Eagles sacked him.

2042
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 2: But I mean, that's that's bad on the uh, the

2043
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: Eagles to not watch for a play like.

2044
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 1: That, I mean, to a certain extent. Yeah, But also

2045
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: if that's the first time, which I think it is

2046
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: the first time the Commanders put that play that fake

2047
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 1: on film, that's these are so tough to prepare for,

2048
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 1: especially earlier in the game on their side of the field.

2049
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of the element of surprise there.

2050
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 1: But I think that I think that the Commanders are desperate.

2051
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 2: Because in a big first down pass right there, threading

2052
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: the needle, Jayden Daniels.

2053
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: After taking the big sack. That's amazing.

2054
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So after taking the big sack, absolutely pinpoint pass

2055
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: through multiple defenders, and it's a first down for the

2056
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 2: Commanders down inside the forty yard line, actually inside the

2057
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 2: thirty yard line now of the Eagles.

2058
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 8: Can anyone explain to me how Jayden Daniels just always

2059
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 8: has a receiver that is wide open every play he

2060
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 8: has one guy that's just.

2061
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: He's open, but that is also a perfect pass.

2062
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this.

2063
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: I do agree with what you're saying, and I'll answer

2064
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: your question next bo. But in this case, the Eagles

2065
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: were playing perfect zone defense. There was literally only enough

2066
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 1: room for a perfect throw. And you see where Brown

2067
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: settled down. It was right in the void in the zone.

2068
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if he throws that off target to the

2069
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: right or to the left, at best for the Commanders,

2070
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: it's incomplete. At best for the Eagles, it's interception intercepted.

2071
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 1: So he put I mean that was a dime he

2072
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: threw in zone coverage. But to answer your other question,

2073
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, how does he have a lot of receivers

2074
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: wide open throughout the course of the season Because he's

2075
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 1: such a threat with his legs that he draws coverage

2076
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,839
Speaker 1: up toward the line of scrimmage, faking defenses with his speed,

2077
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: and then he can throw it over the top because

2078
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 1: he's an accurate guy. All right.

2079
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: And of the first quarter, Eagles lead fourteen to three.

2080
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: Commanders on the move, we got it covered for you.

2081
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio once again, a red Zone Radio.

2082
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 2: We are live from the ti rag dot com studios.

2083
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: After the fake punt, the Commanders had to settle for

2084
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 2: a field goals in Gonzalez made it so fourteen to six.

2085
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 2: Now Eagles leave very early in the second quarter. And

2086
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 2: now it gets back to the commander's defense. They got

2087
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 2: to figure something out here quick because Saquon Barkley, well

2088
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:27,799
Speaker 2: actually Barkley on that play was actually caught for a loss.

2089
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 2: Did he just lose yards on a play?

2090
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: He did?

2091
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 3: He lost three yards, So second.

2092
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 2: And thirteen right now, and all of a sudden, that

2093
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley under one hundred yards is looking solid. Just kidding,

2094
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 2: all right, There is a first down to AJ Brown, who,

2095
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 2: by the way, in this game has already caught as

2096
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 2: many passes as he did in the first two playoff

2097
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 2: games combined. And this is something I was talking about

2098
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 2: early on, is like, where's Aj Brown. It's one of

2099
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,759
Speaker 2: the best receivers in the NFL, and they are definitely

2100
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 2: getting him involved in the offense so far.

2101
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 1: Rich well. And also I think we may see actually

2102
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 1: more of that here in the coming plays and potentially

2103
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: drives because Saquon Barkley is nursing an injury. He was

2104
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: on the sideline on the exercise bike for a little while.

2105
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: He was also seen using a percussion massager. For anybody

2106
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: who's unaware, it almost looks like a power drill where

2107
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: he kind of it has like a percussive, you know,

2108
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: soft a drill bit on the front of it to

2109
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 1: like break up sore tissue, and he had it on

2110
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 1: the back of his ankle during during that last time

2111
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: the commanders were on the Commander's offense was on the field,

2112
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: all right.

2113
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: So right now is second down and ten for the Eagles.

2114
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 2: They are at their own forty yard line, and we

2115
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 2: got an illegal procedure call against the Eagles is going

2116
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 2: to move them back. This is impaired. I'm the Commanders,

2117
01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 2: first of all. If you're gonna win this game, you

2118
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 2: gotta the Eagles at some point, and right now is

2119
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 2: the time. You cannot have the Eagles just go down

2120
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 2: and just continue to score touchdowns.

2121
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go up twenty one to six here with

2122
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is. You know, ten minutes left

2123
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: in the first half. You're looking at a long, hard day.

2124
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: If you're the Commanders, you got to come up with

2125
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: a stop on this drive.

2126
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see what the Commanders do.

2127
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 4: So second and fifteen they got in the break of

2128
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 4: the penalty and now you got to.

2129
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 2: Make use of it.

2130
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

2131
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Barclay's only carry the ball three times in this game.

2132
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 2: First two carries were touchdowns. The third carry was a

2133
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: three yard loss. But Jalen Hurts looks pretty good so

2134
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 2: far in this game. There's a short pass over the middle.

2135
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 4: It's going to set up like third and seven, third

2136
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 4: and six, But he's looking comfortable.

2137
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 2: He broke a couple of tackles. Remember, Hurts has been

2138
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 2: hurteen himself over the course of the week. Actually, over

2139
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 2: the course of the last couple of weeks. So they

2140
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 2: need their quarterback to not only be healthy, but perform well.

2141
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 2: Third and seven right now for the Eagles, and this

2142
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 2: is a huge play here for the Commanders. They need

2143
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 2: to stop. They need to stop right now, force the

2144
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,879
Speaker 2: Eagles to punt, get the ball back because Jayden Daniels

2145
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 2: so far has looked pretty good at quarterback for the Commanders.

2146
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of credit to Lannon Dickerson, who's

2147
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: filling in admirably for an injured Cam Jurgens. This this

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01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: isn't easy to do.

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01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 2: Uh, broken tackle right there, and there's that was an

2150
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 2: opportunity for the Commanders to make a stop and.

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 1: Third right there.

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01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 4: He just he gets the first down for the Eagles

2153
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 4: down to the forty yard.

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01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 2: Line of the Commanders. You got to make tackles, man, you.

2155
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: Gotta make tackles. But yeah, I mean that that just

2156
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: goes further to uh, to prove the point I was

2157
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: making because on a critical third down for this Eagles drive,

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01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, especially if they find a way to put

2159
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: more points on the board going up again. Oh wow, Yeah,

2160
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: that was a that was some that was some opportunity.

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: They replayed it. They could have they could have had

2162
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: to stop. I mean, then again, what God, do people.

2163
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 2: Wrap up people on tackles anymore? Or they just like

2164
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 2: slam their body and hope they knock them over.

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01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 2: What happened to people tackling?

2167
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 4: This is the reason why I remember when you were

2169
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 4: a tackling machine in high school and the state player

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01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 4: of the year.

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01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 2: You didn't just run your body into people. You wrapped

2172
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: them up.

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01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Well. I played defensive end and defensive tackle during my

2174
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: career in high school, you know, before moving on to

2175
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: the college ranks, and they said, no, you're.

2176
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 4: You're definitely anybody ever broken Ornberger tackle?

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01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: I would say very few, if not, If not none,

2178
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: I would say very few. Here here's the thing, though,

2179
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: this is the reason why you throw the football at

2180
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: guys like Dallas Goddard, or guys like Sakwon Barkley or

2181
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 1: or you know even even gain. Well, when you have

2182
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 1: larger players in space now game well, the smallest of

2183
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: who I mentioned, and but when you have larger players

2184
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: like Barkley and Goddard in space, you know, it's difficult

2185
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 1: to bring him down. And so a lot of times

2186
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: defensive backs who are covering receivers, they try to go

2187
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: low and as a result of that, they're they're those

2188
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 1: are easier tackles to break.

2189
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 2: By the way, they just did the push with their

2190
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 2: backup center. Obviously he's a starter, but they moved him

2191
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: to center and that was that was a long yard,

2192
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 2: that was about a yard and a half and they

2193
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 2: they bill got the first act.

2194
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts did the majority of that work.

2195
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he just I mean, he's a streat. He

2196
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 2: doesn't get as much credit as he should. I mean,

2197
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey seemed to get all the credit back in

2198
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 2: the day. Uh, not to diminish how great Jason Kelsey

2199
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 2: was now a spot in the Hall of Fame someday.

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01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 4: But Jalen Hurts is probably the reason more often than

2201
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 4: not that that seems always work.

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01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Jalen Hurts is a powerful man. You know,

2203
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 1: he can rush the football as good a running back

2204
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: in certain situations, certainly in those short yarded situations. So

2205
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 1: what a benefit to have him under center when you

2206
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: are trying to go for a long yard on fourth down.

2207
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 1: And as mentioned, you know Saquon Barkley checking back in

2208
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 1: the game after that second down try. He is a

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01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: little banged up here. He is a little dinged up.

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01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Three carries, that's all he's got so far. We got

2211
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 2: inside ten minutes to go in the first aven Barkley

2212
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: has three carries in this game. So they've been throwing

2213
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 2: the ball and now they're facing a third and six.

2214
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 2: I believe they're at the twenty eight yard line of

2215
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 2: the Commanders. So again the Commander is an opportunity to

2216
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 2: get them off the field. A field goals a lot

2217
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 2: better than a touchdown, So right now, that's what they're

2218
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 2: going to try to hold the Eagles here on this

2219
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: third and sixth play, and it's going to be a

2220
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 2: pass play for Hurtz and now he's going to call

2221
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 2: a time out. Wow, we're pushing the top of the

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01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: hour and you call it time out.

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01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 4: We wanted to bring to our red zone audience what

2224
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 4: was gonna happen on this play?

2225
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 2: And you failed us, jayl Hurts, you failed us.

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02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 1: All right.

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02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 4: On the other side, you're gonna find out what happened

2228
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 4: on that play and so much more heading to halftime.

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Speaker 4: This is red Zone radio rolling two halftime here in

2230
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 4: this NSC Championship game between the Eagles and the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Could cost the Eagles.

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02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 2: They decided to go for a fifty four yard field

2239
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 2: goal after Jalen Hurts had gotten sacked, giving the Commanders

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02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: a great field position and now.

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02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 4: Touchdown Commanders Wada McLaurin pass play and just like that

2242
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 4: they are two points away from tying this game.

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02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, incredible.

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02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 4: So you make the decision to go for the long

2245
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,879
Speaker 4: field goal. It wasn't good, wasn't even close.

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02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 2: You give them great field position near midfield and the

2247
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 2: Commanders go right down the field and McLaurin goes the distance,

2248
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 2: breaking tackles and just like that, were Commanders really back

2249
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 2: in this game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? They cash in in a big way. And you know,

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02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: look that this is what happens when you have a

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02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: special receiver and you don't get them to the ground.

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02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Because all this was was a bunch set where they

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02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: were clearing out a little room for McLaurin on the slant,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean this was he was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be tackled at the sticks. If you see the way

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02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: this is set up, He's got two deep routes inside.

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02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 1: You have McLaurin coming in underneath of those clear out

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02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 1: routes his corner. I mean, he was nowhere near. I

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02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: think he tried to undercut the pass, and then I

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02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: think it was Cooper de John who tried to come

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02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: in and save the play. He missed the tackle and

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02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: it was off to the for Terry McLaurin.

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02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, awful two point conversion.

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02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 4: Oh really, I mean it was like a spin pass

2266
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 4: to Austin Eckler, who I don't even know if he

2267
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 4: made it.

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02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 2: To the five yard line. So no good on the

2269
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 2: two point version. So the Eagles hang on fourteen twelve.

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02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 2: And right now the question for the Eagles is where

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02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 2: the hell is Saquon Barkley. Yeah, three carries in the

2272
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 2: first half. His first carry was a sixty yard touchdown,

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02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 2: his second carry was a four yard touchdown, and his

2274
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 2: third carry was a three yard loss. Oh whereon? But

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02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 2: didn't you guys say that Saquon's going to carry the

2276
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:37,960
Speaker 2: ball forty times that day.

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Speaker 8: Time after these were going to win this game. All

2278
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 8: I can say is the Eagles losing Saquon in this

2279
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 8: game would would really just fit with how lucky Washington

2280
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 8: has gotten all year and having things go their way

2281
02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 8: in these games.

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02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 2: It's nuts. Well, I mean, this is obviously serious because

2283
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 2: if you take Saquon Barkley out of the mix, do

2284
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 2: we have a report of a actual injury. We know

2285
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 2: that he was hurt hurting, but is there any report

2286
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,440
Speaker 2: that Saquon Barkley is hurt?

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02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 8: I haven't seen anything.

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02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 2: This is just crazy.

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02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's uh, he's nursing an ankle though a lower

2290
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: leg injury for sure.

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02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well, guess what. You are one game away from

2292
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, and if you're Saquon Barkley, you suck

2293
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 2: it up unless you got a broken leg. Man, you

2294
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 2: are out there and you're running.

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02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Well, well, I listen, I'm not I'm not saying this

2296
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: is a Saquon decision either. I mean, this could be

2297
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 1: a situation where the trainers are discussing things with him.

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02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: His offensive coordinator, is running backs coach, everybody is checking

2299
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 1: in with him, and he's saying, hey, yeah, look you know,

2300
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: I can be out there. He's been on the field plenty.

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02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,440
Speaker 1: He's pass protected well for Gellen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: That's not why you're paying him, No, no, I know.

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02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he's been on the field during

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02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: these pass plays. So it could be the mission of

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02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Hey, we're only gonna rush him now, Okay,

2306
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 1: Like if we need him and.

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02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 3: They you need him, you need him right now?

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02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well yes, I mean they commanders literally just

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02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:00,080
Speaker 1: scored to make this a ball game again, and the

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02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: drive before that they were trying to open up the

2311
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: lead if they would have made that field goal, which

2312
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't. So I agree with you. I think

2313
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 1: the time is now to get Taquon if the running back,

2314
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,320
Speaker 1: not the pass protector back involved in this game.

2315
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 2: Bo is scrambling right now.

2316
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 3: So Bo, what's best to say?

2317
02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 2: Rich three carries in the first half.

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02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 8: The decision to kick a field goal there is squarely

2319
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 8: on Nick Sirianni just not knowing the year and going

2320
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 8: by his gut, because Jake Elliott's now one for eight

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02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 8: on field goals of at least fifty yards of this season.

2322
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 8: So there's no reason that Jake Elliott needed to take

2323
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 8: that field goal.

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02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it hunted or if you missed it,

2325
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 2: and now you hand the ball in midfield and look

2326
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 2: at the score now, So at a time, we keep

2327
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 2: thinking the Eagles have an opportunity to break this thing open.

2328
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 2: Now that's you know, it's anybody's game. Fourteen to twelve

2329
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 2: right now, Eagles leave. We got seven oh five to

2330
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 2: go in the first half. So it will be interesting

2331
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 2: to see on this upcoming Eagles drive. Are we going

2332
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 2: to start seeing some Saquon Barkley.

2333
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 1: They better, I mean, look, if he's healthy enough to

2334
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: be on the football field, they better hand him the

2335
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 1: football if they want a chance to win this game. Because,

2336
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: like I told you, Steve, I thought that this was

2337
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: going to be a close game. It looks like it's

2338
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 1: giving us all the signs that it will be a

2339
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: close game. And the only way, in my opinion, the

2340
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Eagles can beat the Commanders is with a healthy Saquon

2341
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 1: Barkley Lee, Because let's be honest with each other. In

2342
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 1: the past two matchups these division rivals had this season,

2343
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley was a story. He was the reason why

2344
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles were so dominant against against this very familiar foe.

2345
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 2: Well, again, you have the number two rushing offense in

2346
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 2: the league against the third worst rushing defense, and you've

2347
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 2: thrown more passes in this game than rushing attempts. Yeah,

2348
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 2: Barkley is on the field right now, so they open

2349
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 2: up this drive at their own twenty eight yard.

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02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 1: The only explanation is because he's he's hurt or hurting,

2351
02:05:58,760 --> 02:05:59,880
Speaker 1: that's the only explanation.

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02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, right now they're running sort of an

2353
02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 2: inside what do you call that play?

2354
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: Inside zone?

2355
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, DeVante Smith. They're getting a nice gain on that play.

2356
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 2: But again, Barkley is a decoy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2357
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 2: What is going on here?

2358
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well again, I I'm I promise you he's not

2359
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 1: he's He's not even close to one hundred percent, otherwise

2360
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: they would be featuring him like they should be right now,

2361
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 1: in this close of a game. Yeah, that that first

2362
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 1: down play, I mean they're using him to fake him.

2363
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 1: It's a little fly sweep and Barkley as a lead rusher,

2364
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't look comfortable.

2365
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. Well, right now he's getting the ball

2366
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 2: and he's got about two yards on that carry. So

2367
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 2: that's gonna shut up set up a third and one

2368
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 2: play and who is that?

2369
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 4: That's Hurt on the sideline for the Eagles. Hmm, bo,

2370
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 4: do you know who that is?

2371
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: Is that?

2372
02:06:57,680 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

2373
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 2: My, so Dickerson who to move to the center position

2374
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 2: now limping on the sideline.

2375
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 4: Well he's back in the game. But you know these

2376
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 4: big guys, you have no option.

2377
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Well, right before that that play, they showed his knee.

2378
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 2: And now they're gonna have the push play here for

2379
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 2: a long yard and I don't know this thing. I

2380
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:22,680
Speaker 2: don't know where Hurt says he's short of the line.

2381
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:24,600
Speaker 2: They gave it to him.

2382
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 1: Has a left knee injury because the last drive he

2383
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: came off the field, he was limping around. They put

2384
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: his his left knee in that knee brace that the

2385
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 1: broadcast has been focused on.

2386
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 2: He is he is hobbling too, hobbling around. Can you

2387
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 2: imagine you you're you're you got this piercing pain in

2388
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 2: your knee and they call that play?

2389
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 8: What I feel like, Wow, this is maybe the situation

2390
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 8: where Cam Jurgens might play.

2391
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,360
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, isn't he in there is an

2392
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 4: emergency guy?

2393
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 2: He is suited up for the game.

2394
02:07:57,320 --> 02:08:00,640
Speaker 1: He made they the Eagles may be trying to until

2395
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 1: the second half and then get Jurgens back in at center.

2396
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 1: But here's the other problem is now you still have

2397
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,879
Speaker 1: a backup guard in the game, so it's still not perfect.

2398
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 1: You still don't have the full compliment of players you

2399
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:14,960
Speaker 1: would have had with a healthy Jurgons and a healthy Dickerson.

2400
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: But I guess it's better than nothing. It's it's really

2401
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 1: rough for the Eagles right now because again, whatever this

2402
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 1: issue is with Saquon, it is changing the way they're

2403
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 1: calling the game because this game plan is so vastly

2404
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: different than the way they called games against the Commanders

2405
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 1: in two visits this regular season leading up to the postseason, his.

2406
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 2: First carry was a sixty yard touchdown. Since then, he

2407
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 2: has three carries for two yards.

2408
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: Yep.

2409
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 2: And so maybe that bold prediction by Carrie Rhodse wasn't

2410
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 2: so outrageous under one hundred yards. But they need Barklay

2411
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 2: to do something. Now he's broken one off and he's

2412
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 2: gotten a first down as they get to midfield. All right,

2413
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 2: that looked more like the Saquon Barklay were used to.

2414
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 4: So it just seems weird about I mean, they had

2415
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 4: first down pass, Yeah, I mean, first and ten, you're

2416
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 4: passing the ball when you got Saquon Barklay in your backfield.

2417
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 2: That doesn't that doesn't make sense. All right, They're at

2418
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 2: midfield right now, the clock is ticking, we're inside four

2419
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 2: minutes to go on the first half, and again Eagles

2420
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:20,240
Speaker 2: are leading the Commanders by a score of fourteen to twelve.

2421
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 2: And a little fake handoff that goes nowhere. So I just,

2422
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 2: you know, I just it just seems like the Eagles

2423
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 2: offense is a little out of sorts right now.

2424
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I think we're seeing the result of

2425
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: a couple of different things. One, what did they do

2426
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 1: in their last victory, Well, they highlighted two things and

2427
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 1: they did an extremely good job of it. Not only

2428
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley as a rusher, but also Jalen Hurts.

2429
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Hurts is seventy yards rushing last week.

2430
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a devastating rusher when he's completely healthy. He's

2431
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 1: not completely healthy either, you know, So even though they

2432
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: just tried to get him going, I mean, he looks uncomfortable,

2433
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 1: he looks unhealthy. So between him and Saquon.

2434
02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Barkley and your center and your.

2435
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 1: Center, both Jurgens and now your backup center Dickerson injured.

2436
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: It's going to be a long, hard day. It's tough

2437
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 1: sledding in Philadelphia for the Eagles, all right.

2438
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 2: So another Barclay run is set up a third down

2439
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 2: and five right now for the Eagles. And again we're

2440
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 2: inside three minutes to go right now. And if you're

2441
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles, the last thing you want is the Commanders

2442
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 2: to get the ball back in this half. You want

2443
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,280
Speaker 2: to run the clock at least get a field goal

2444
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: out of this.

2445
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in a.

2446
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 2: Game that looks early on like the Eagles could just

2447
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 2: absolutely blow the doors off the Commanders, it is very

2448
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:42,640
Speaker 2: tight right now.

2449
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:46,160
Speaker 1: And now I know Eagles fans hate to hear this.

2450
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 1: I know Bo will cringe.

2451
02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 2: Turn down passes incomplete.

2452
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 1: But like, this is the reason why I love football,

2453
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 1: because it's so highly variable, not even when a team

2454
02:10:56,480 --> 02:11:00,120
Speaker 1: comes storming out the gates, and even when it looks

2455
02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 1: like a game is going to just unwind and unravel

2456
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 1: in disastrous fashion for one side, You're you're relying on

2457
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 1: so many people to do.

2458
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 4: The right woah, whoa, whoa, whoa, They're gonna go for

2459
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,040
Speaker 4: it on fourth and five.

2460
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Field.

2461
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

2462
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 1: Playing?

2463
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 3: It's saying dan Quinn's game now. Wow.

2464
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 2: So they are at the commander's forty five yard line,

2465
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 2: fourth and five when two fourteen, the Commanders have three

2466
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 2: timeouts and the play is snapped and they are throwing

2467
02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 2: the ball down the field and it is caught by

2468
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 2: A J.

2469
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: Brown.

2470
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 9: Wow, Jeremiah Smith Wow.

2471
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,640
Speaker 2: AJ Brown down the sideline. A perfect pass by the

2472
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:46,840
Speaker 2: way by Jay Lenders. I don't know if you notice

2473
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 2: that bo he actually can throw the ball accurately.

2474
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 4: That was a perfect I think. I think logic there

2475
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 4: is just you just I don't know. Maybe maybe if

2476
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 4: you turn it over there, like two minutes isn't enough,

2477
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,080
Speaker 4: you think you can hold Washington a field.

2478
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 1: Let be there.

2479
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 2: Item Absolutely not. But they went there and they saw

2480
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 2: down the field to AJ Brown.

2481
02:12:06,040 --> 02:12:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they knew exactly what they were getting on

2482
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 1: that fourth down play. They set up in a formation

2483
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 1: where they knew they were getting cover one. They knew

2484
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 1: the Commanders were going to blitz them. They knew they

2485
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: were gonna have AJ Brown solo route. And they told them, hey, buddy,

2486
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 1: you get yourself some space on the sideline and and

2487
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 1: we'll get the ball to you before that safety comes

2488
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 1: over the top, and that's exactly what happened. That was

2489
02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:31,120
Speaker 1: right on the money from jaellen Hurst and.

2490
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 4: Rich Really, like, we're in these middle eight minutes, and

2491
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 4: you know this, like if they score a touchdown here

2492
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 4: and they get the ball coming out of the half too,

2493
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 4: and if they score another touchdown like that might be

2494
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:43,839
Speaker 4: the knockout punch there. If you can get fourteen points

2495
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 4: around halftime like that, no team comes up.

2496
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 1: I call it the bracket around halftimes. I know that

2497
02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:53,160
Speaker 1: Jared Smith, my co host on the On the Countdown,

2498
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 1: a kickoff show we do on Saturday mornings on Fox

2499
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, likes to call it the middle eight. I

2500
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 1: call it the brackets. Right, So if if you're if

2501
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 1: you're inside the final few minutes of the half, the

2502
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 1: first couple of minutes of the next half, points I

2503
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: mean obviously turnovers, but points turnovers, big special teams plays

2504
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 1: that can dictate the entirety of the game. So you're

2505
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Eagles score here, get the ball back after

2506
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 1: half and score again. I mean, all of a sudden,

2507
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about this game the same way we were

2508
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: when the Eagles stormed out the gates to take an

2509
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: eleven point lead.

2510
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,600
Speaker 2: All right, So with two minute warning, I was a

2511
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 2: thirty one yard pass play to AJ Brown. So the

2512
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 2: first and tent for the Eagles now at the Commander's

2513
02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 2: fourteen yard line. So two things here. Obviously one points,

2514
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 2: obviously preferably a touchdown, and.

2515
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 3: You need to run some clock.

2516
02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

2517
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to give the Commanders an opportunity

2518
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:49,840
Speaker 2: to get the ball back and then score right before

2519
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 2: the half, so they regained some momentum. You know, you

2520
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:55,360
Speaker 2: want to close out the half with the last score

2521
02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,400
Speaker 2: of this half. So we'll see how the Eagles played. Barkley,

2522
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 2: by the way, after that sixth our touchdown run on

2523
02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:05,440
Speaker 2: his first carry, now has six carries for seventy seven yards,

2524
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts nine to thirteen for one hundred and twenty

2525
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 2: six yards. You mentioned his running last week's seventy yards

2526
02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:17,120
Speaker 2: on the ground for Heurts this week four carries and

2527
02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:21,879
Speaker 2: four yards. Jayden Daniels in this game twelve of twenty

2528
02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:23,960
Speaker 2: one pass and they have thrown the ball a lot

2529
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventeen yards. And he does have

2530
02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:30,360
Speaker 2: the one touchdown pass to McLaurin. So the Eagles right

2531
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:34,520
Speaker 2: now if you're the Commanders, do you use any of

2532
02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 2: these timeouts?

2533
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it just depends on how confident you are

2534
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 1: on the script to finish the half. Now, we saw

2535
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 1: them march the field on the Eagles to open the

2536
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:49,000
Speaker 1: game because they received the ball first. But it was methodical,

2537
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:53,840
Speaker 1: it was time consuming, and they had to settle for

2538
02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 1: three points. But if you think you have a two

2539
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 1: minute you have a two minute drilling you that can

2540
02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:01,240
Speaker 1: earn you some points, then yeah, I mean you can't

2541
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 1: take them with you to halftime.

2542
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 2: And I think the Commanders are using a time out

2543
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 2: right now.

2544
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:07,520
Speaker 1: They are.

2545
02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 2: So Barkley got about three yards on that carry down

2546
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:15,080
Speaker 2: to the eleven and immediately the Commanders call a time

2547
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 2: out one fifty five to go in the first half.

2548
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,120
Speaker 2: So that's that, to me is the smart play. I mean,

2549
02:15:21,160 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 2: you want to you always want to preserve time and

2550
02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:25,800
Speaker 2: give your team an opportunity.

2551
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also let's let's be honest with each other.

2552
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, anything can happen on this drive in the

2553
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 1: same way we were talking about the middle eight or

2554
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 1: the brackets around halftime, you know, in terms of you know,

2555
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 1: if the if the Commanders get to steal a possession, here,

2556
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, fumble an interception. You know, you get yourself

2557
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:48,760
Speaker 1: some points here and get a stop against the Eagles

2558
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:50,959
Speaker 1: on the other side of halftime and you have possession

2559
02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:53,800
Speaker 1: with an opportunity to score yourself. I mean, they can

2560
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:57,960
Speaker 1: completely flip the momentum of this game after that big

2561
02:15:58,040 --> 02:16:01,400
Speaker 1: pass play to AJ Brown in their face. So an

2562
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:04,240
Speaker 1: enormously important drive here for the Commanders as well.

2563
02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 2: I Hurtz throws in the end zone. It is incomplete

2564
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:12,000
Speaker 2: no flag on the play. We'll continue on our coverage

2565
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:14,960
Speaker 2: of this NFC Championship game. Well as he gets you

2566
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:18,360
Speaker 2: ready for the upcoming AFC Championship game. This is Red

2567
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 2: Zone Radio. Yeah, thanks to get a little spicy here

2568
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game to the Eagles and the Commanders.

2569
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio were live from the Tirak dot Com studios.

2570
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 2: So the Eagles use the push to get into the

2571
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 2: end zone, but on that play, Marshawn Lattimore and AJ

2572
02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 2: Brown got into it and so they penalized Lattimore and

2573
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 2: the Eagles decided, well, heck, then we'll go for another

2574
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:52,359
Speaker 2: push to get a two point conversion, and the Commanders

2575
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:57,640
Speaker 2: stoned them on that conversion. So it's twenty to twelve

2576
02:16:57,800 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 2: right now. Eagles lead the Commanders. Still one forty four

2577
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:04,960
Speaker 2: to go in the first half, and the Commanders have

2578
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,800
Speaker 2: two timeouts, so plenty of time for them to go

2579
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 2: right down the field and perhaps even tie up this game.

2580
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.

2581
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:16,880
Speaker 1: Think it was unfortunate for the Commanders to have that situation. However,

2582
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that the penalty was assessed on

2583
02:17:20,480 --> 02:17:23,640
Speaker 1: the two point conversion actually may have benefited the Commanders

2584
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:26,960
Speaker 1: because it baited the Eagles into trying the tush push again.

2585
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:30,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, we have a fumble on the kickoff by

2586
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 4: the Commanders and it is recovered by the Eagles.

2587
02:17:33,560 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, nightmare, nightmare, nightmare.

2588
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 1: The mistakes are piling up. I mean, I was about

2589
02:17:40,879 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 1: to say, you know, the Latimer mistake actually benefited them

2590
02:17:45,800 --> 02:17:49,000
Speaker 1: because it baited the Eagles into trying the tush push

2591
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:53,080
Speaker 1: on the two point conversion, robbing them of the points

2592
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:57,679
Speaker 1: after touchdown. But man, this is just disastrous.

2593
02:17:57,760 --> 02:18:01,119
Speaker 2: All right, Well, they're scrambling right now. By all accounts,

2594
02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles recovered that funnel was clearly a fumble by

2595
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 2: Nichols right there on the kickoff as he got hit

2596
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 2: the ball came out and it looked like the Eagles

2597
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:13,680
Speaker 2: jumped on it. So if that is the case, then

2598
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:17,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles could really put the dagger on him because

2599
02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:19,480
Speaker 2: remember the Eagles, we'll get the ball first, open up

2600
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,200
Speaker 2: the second half. So twenty to twelve right now, Eagles

2601
02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:24,879
Speaker 2: lead the Commanders and we still got it one thirty

2602
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:28,160
Speaker 2: six to go in this first half, and the Eagles,

2603
02:18:28,200 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 2: by the way, have two timeouts remaining, so they got

2604
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:34,400
Speaker 2: all the time in the world right now to really

2605
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 2: put the Commanders in a hole.

2606
02:18:37,720 --> 02:18:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is this is a huge problem because again,

2607
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles back in prime condition to take over this game.

2608
02:18:49,360 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 1: If they can find a way to score again to

2609
02:18:51,480 --> 02:18:54,640
Speaker 1: finish this half, whether it's three points or another you know,

2610
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 1: six or seven depending on if the point after touchdound

2611
02:18:57,680 --> 02:19:01,360
Speaker 1: Er good or potentially eight, then you're looking at getting

2612
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:05,200
Speaker 1: the ball back after the half up, you know, I mean,

2613
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:09,480
Speaker 1: they could be up feasibly twenty eight to twelve if

2614
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 1: they go for the two point conversion again to make

2615
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 1: up for the last missed one and then have an

2616
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 1: opportunity to score and put this team away.

2617
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 2: Look at Dickerson, they're showing him on the sidelines, Landon Dickerson,

2618
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:24,280
Speaker 2: who had to move over to the center position at

2619
02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 2: the start of this game, and he is hobbling on

2620
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,880
Speaker 2: the sidelines, but he's still out there. Hurts now on

2621
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:31,800
Speaker 2: design run play, is going to walk into the end

2622
02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:36,279
Speaker 2: zone touchdown? Eagles? Wow, just like, well, well, there's a penalty.

2623
02:19:35,959 --> 02:19:37,040
Speaker 1: On the Is there a hold?

2624
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 8: That's what I would think.

2625
02:19:38,360 --> 02:19:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so they're not celebrating the end zones.

2626
02:19:40,959 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 4: That means it's probably a hold on the Eagles.

2627
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:46,280
Speaker 2: Was a design run by a sort of a quarterback

2628
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:51,320
Speaker 2: draw and hurts one in but there is a holding call?

2629
02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:55,119
Speaker 2: And is that on Dickerson? Yeah, it's on Dickerson.

2630
02:19:55,240 --> 02:19:58,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeahs insane to call that a hold after

2631
02:19:58,360 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 8: some of the replays we've seen when Ja.

2632
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:02,760
Speaker 2: Dan he grabbed him by the neck right as hurts

2633
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 2: what ram by him? So that's that's how you get

2634
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,440
Speaker 2: a whole call the that's a hold.

2635
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 1: The problem is when when you're when you have a

2636
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:12,959
Speaker 1: lower body injury like like Dickerson's dealing with, and you're

2637
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:16,160
Speaker 1: getting up to the second level on a linebacker, you're

2638
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:19,280
Speaker 1: where you would normally rely on your feet to help

2639
02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,680
Speaker 1: you position block a linebacker. He can't do that. Because

2640
02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 1: his running gear is injured. So all of a sudden,

2641
02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:27,640
Speaker 1: you get a little grab you with your hands, and

2642
02:20:27,959 --> 02:20:30,920
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. He got that linebacker around the collar.

2643
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:33,440
Speaker 1: And they're gonna call that every time. I mean, it's

2644
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 1: a it's it's a fine call by the officials. I

2645
02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:40,000
Speaker 1: understand your complaint, Bo, because they're not catching everything. But

2646
02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he held up Bobby Wagner significantly there.

2647
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hurts is throwing the ball away. So now

2648
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 2: they got a third and ten. Now, one of the

2649
02:20:49,000 --> 02:20:52,840
Speaker 2: big stories, guys is Saquon Barkley the first carry sixty

2650
02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 2: yard touchdown since then six carries nineteen yards. Where is

2651
02:20:56,400 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley? Dickerson cannot walk right now? Ye's and where

2652
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 2: are you going next? For your center?

2653
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:07,400
Speaker 1: Well, Cam Jurgens was fighting with him to get back

2654
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:10,880
Speaker 1: on the football field, and because he is on the

2655
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:14,519
Speaker 1: injury injury report with a back injury, I think Dickerson

2656
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 1: position or petitioned hard to go back on the field.

2657
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:20,400
Speaker 2: Dickerson is back out there.

2658
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,200
Speaker 8: Man, how many snaps you got left in you?

2659
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I think he makes it to halftime and he probably

2660
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 1: sits out.

2661
02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:30,879
Speaker 3: Philadelphia.

2662
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:34,439
Speaker 2: I feel like This is gonna end like the Tostitos

2663
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:36,119
Speaker 2: commercial if you put.

2664
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 3: Me on the They just called a flag on the commanders.

2665
02:21:40,040 --> 02:21:43,000
Speaker 2: Say Kwan Barkley takes the ball, he wins out of bounds,

2666
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:47,359
Speaker 2: he gets blasted, and they call a personal foul against

2667
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 2: the commanders.

2668
02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:51,600
Speaker 1: The commanders are making some big mistakes out there. This

2669
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:54,880
Speaker 1: is a terrible, terrible job keeping their composure at the

2670
02:21:54,959 --> 02:21:55,520
Speaker 1: end of the half.

2671
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:57,879
Speaker 2: Look at that. I mean he was at both feet

2672
02:21:57,879 --> 02:22:01,560
Speaker 2: were out of bounds and boom.

2673
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's no good. You gotta you gotta make

2674
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 1: you gotta make a better play than that. What are

2675
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:08,800
Speaker 1: we doing?

2676
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:13,119
Speaker 2: What they did was obviously personal foul. Half the distance

2677
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:16,000
Speaker 2: to the goal line, and the Eagles with fifty two

2678
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 2: seconds left, are that much closer.

2679
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta say it close.

2680
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:22,800
Speaker 8: I love when guys commit the most obvious penalty ever

2681
02:22:22,879 --> 02:22:26,080
Speaker 8: and then they just walk around with their talking.

2682
02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:29,440
Speaker 1: About I mean, what's so crazy about this play is

2683
02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:32,480
Speaker 1: he's already giving up on the play. He was two,

2684
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:35,119
Speaker 1: He had two steps out of bounds by the time.

2685
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:37,800
Speaker 1: It was just such a bonehead. Right.

2686
02:22:37,920 --> 02:22:40,320
Speaker 4: Hold on, let's find out what is trending right now

2687
02:22:40,400 --> 02:22:42,520
Speaker 4: will allow Martin to take us through the rest of

2688
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:44,320
Speaker 4: the strive for the Eagles.

2689
02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:46,119
Speaker 7: Up to you Martin should have been a field goal

2690
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 7: attemph right here, but Mikey Sandstrill with a clear late

2691
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:53,200
Speaker 7: hit on Saquon Barkley as he takes the first down

2692
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:55,880
Speaker 7: carry down to about the four yard line here with

2693
02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 7: about forty five seconds left in the first half. It

2694
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:01,800
Speaker 7: is a twenty to twelve lead for the Eagles. The

2695
02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 7: Commanders dominated time of possession in the first quarter, but

2696
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:05,680
Speaker 7: the score at the.

2697
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:07,920
Speaker 3: End of the first quarter fourteen to three.

2698
02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:11,960
Speaker 7: They were able to get a touchdown Jaden Daniels to

2699
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:16,640
Speaker 7: Terry McLaurin on a thirty six yard touchdown catch, but

2700
02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:19,800
Speaker 7: that was really Terry McLaurin stepping out of tackles, breaking tackles.

2701
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:22,320
Speaker 7: Commander's just really been a lot of field goals today.

2702
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 7: Sekwon Barkley has Stevens said, where is he what when

2703
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:28,120
Speaker 7: he's in the game and getting the ball, Steve, He's

2704
02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:30,560
Speaker 7: scoring touchdowns, that's what he's doing. He's got eight carries

2705
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:33,760
Speaker 7: so far, eighty five yards again, forty five seconds left

2706
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 7: in the first half here, two touchdowns for the long

2707
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:40,000
Speaker 7: of sixty So he did hit that big initial touchdown

2708
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 7: run here, and we'll see if they're able to punch

2709
02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:45,920
Speaker 7: it in on this upcoming possession here forty five seconds

2710
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:47,039
Speaker 7: in the first half.

2711
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:48,760
Speaker 3: Six point thirty eastern.

2712
02:23:48,840 --> 02:23:50,960
Speaker 7: The Kansas City Chiefs host the Buffalo Bills in the

2713
02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:55,640
Speaker 7: AFC Championship Game. Kansas City seventh consecutive AFC Championship game.

2714
02:23:55,640 --> 02:23:58,879
Speaker 7: The Chiefs currently try to win the franchise's third straight

2715
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. As its second goal now Saqawa Barkley takes

2716
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:05,280
Speaker 7: the handoff, it will be third end goal. As you

2717
02:24:05,360 --> 02:24:07,440
Speaker 7: know what said, a lot of pushing and shoving around

2718
02:24:07,480 --> 02:24:07,600
Speaker 7: and it.

2719
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,200
Speaker 1: You know, I know, football is a whole game of.

2720
02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:13,240
Speaker 4: Pushing on to say, rivalry game. It's a divisional game.

2721
02:24:13,440 --> 02:24:15,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a little.

2722
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:17,840
Speaker 7: Extra juice in this one, absolutely is, and I mean

2723
02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 7: the score of philadelphiad.

2724
02:24:19,120 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 3: With an eight point lead.

2725
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:23,520
Speaker 7: In my opinion watching this, Commanders have really given Philly

2726
02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 7: way more chances than they need to.

2727
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 3: We'll see how Rich Oremberger feels about that in just

2728
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:30,320
Speaker 3: a minute. I can't wait to hear that openion.

2729
02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:33,480
Speaker 7: In men's college basketball, let's see here what you got

2730
02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:37,440
Speaker 7: which Tulsa leading, which is tass State seventy one to

2731
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 7: forty five, Illinois over Northwestern sixty four to forty one.

2732
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:44,400
Speaker 7: With ten minutes left in the game, Texas Tech leads

2733
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:48,720
Speaker 7: Oklahoma State forty nine to thirty three. Wisconsin pounded Nebraska

2734
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:51,879
Speaker 7: earlier today eighty three to fifty five in North Texas

2735
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:55,880
Speaker 7: be Florida Atlantic seventy seven to sixty four. Maryland over

2736
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:59,279
Speaker 7: Indiana seventy nine to seventy eight in a Big Ten matchup.

2737
02:24:59,360 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 7: Third and goal here, the forty three seconds left, as

2738
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:05,440
Speaker 7: the Eagles are about to snap the ball, I'll let

2739
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:06,760
Speaker 7: Steve and Rich take it from here.

2740
02:25:07,560 --> 02:25:10,480
Speaker 2: Guys, All right, Marri well right now, Eagles again trying

2741
02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:12,040
Speaker 2: to get into the end zone. It's going to be

2742
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:14,560
Speaker 2: a pass play and it is caught by AJ Brown.

2743
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:18,920
Speaker 2: Touchdown Eagles. Wow, touchdown Eagles.

2744
02:25:18,959 --> 02:25:22,200
Speaker 4: So after the fumbled kickoff by the Commanders, all of

2745
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:26,680
Speaker 4: a sudden, you're going into the half down at least fourteen.

2746
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:29,720
Speaker 2: It's twenty six to twelve. I'm not sure if the

2747
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Eagles go for one or two here. I'll guess they'll

2748
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 2: go for one. But that is in the end zone.

2749
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:36,879
Speaker 2: AJ Brown, who, by the way, in the first two

2750
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:41,360
Speaker 2: playoff games had just three catches. He's got four for

2751
02:25:41,480 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 2: sixty one and that score right there.

2752
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,160
Speaker 4: So the Eagles twenty six to twelve right now, thirty

2753
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:50,119
Speaker 4: nine seconds they will go for the kicked extra point here.

2754
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:53,560
Speaker 4: So that was just again, when you're an underdog like

2755
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:57,440
Speaker 4: the Commanders were going into this game, you just can't

2756
02:25:57,480 --> 02:25:58,200
Speaker 4: make mistakes.

2757
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:01,599
Speaker 2: And they've had a couple of big mistakes.

2758
02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:05,720
Speaker 1: Huge game, huge mistakes. I mean, you can't cough up

2759
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:09,039
Speaker 1: the football, and they've done that twice down this game and.

2760
02:26:09,160 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Both resulted, by the way in Eagles touchdowns.

2761
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:16,400
Speaker 1: And also, let's face it, everything is aligning for the

2762
02:26:16,480 --> 02:26:20,119
Speaker 1: Commanders to have success. The Eagles are without their starting center,

2763
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 1: their backup center Dickerson, who moved over from guard, is

2764
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:26,640
Speaker 1: injured as well and limping around the football field. Saquon

2765
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Barkley's dealing with some sort of injury. Hopefully at halftime

2766
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:31,680
Speaker 1: we got a better update than we currently have, but

2767
02:26:31,800 --> 02:26:33,879
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a lower leg injury that he's been

2768
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 1: nursing all game long since his opening touchdown. And then

2769
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:41,160
Speaker 1: you look at you know, just in general, I mean

2770
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:44,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're missing help on their defensive backfield. They

2771
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:47,200
Speaker 1: have a starter out rookie of the year, I mean

2772
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:50,720
Speaker 1: they were injured, they have a lot of things that

2773
02:26:50,840 --> 02:26:53,840
Speaker 1: they're dealing with in different spots on their roster, and

2774
02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 1: still they're leading this game twenty seven to twelve going

2775
02:26:56,600 --> 02:27:00,360
Speaker 1: into the half. The Commanders they had every opportunit unity

2776
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:03,320
Speaker 1: and they're blowing it right now. They are blowing it.

2777
02:27:03,480 --> 02:27:05,320
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It could be the tail of

2778
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:08,360
Speaker 1: two halves. We may see a situation where they come

2779
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:11,680
Speaker 1: out on the other side of halftime and they shore

2780
02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:14,080
Speaker 1: things up and they get themselves back into the flow

2781
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:16,520
Speaker 1: of things here. But the Eagles get the ball first.

2782
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:18,560
Speaker 1: So if they don't stop them, if the Eagles end

2783
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:21,560
Speaker 1: up going up you know, thirty to twelve or you know,

2784
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,200
Speaker 1: thirty four to twelve, I mean, this game's over. This

2785
02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:25,280
Speaker 1: game over.

2786
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:27,959
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2787
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:30,080
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2788
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Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2789
02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:35,480
Speaker 2: your podcasts, and follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

2790
02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:38,359
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

2791
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:40,880
Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

2792
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:43,160
Speaker 2: the air. So thirty nine seconds remaining in the half,

2793
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:46,120
Speaker 2: Commanders have no timeouts. I would imagine they're not going

2794
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,879
Speaker 2: to do anything stupid here before the half. I mean

2795
02:27:48,920 --> 02:27:54,160
Speaker 2: they've already again two turnovers, both ended up as Eagles touchdowns.

2796
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:55,480
Speaker 2: That's the difference in the game.

2797
02:27:55,600 --> 02:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Let's have this conversation. Jalen Hurts is saving this football

2798
02:27:59,360 --> 02:28:02,960
Speaker 1: game for the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, Is it perfect?

2799
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:03,120
Speaker 4: No?

2800
02:28:03,560 --> 02:28:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, is he throwing the football around the yard

2801
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:10,440
Speaker 1: like you know vintage Tom Brady or Matthew Stafford or

2802
02:28:10,760 --> 02:28:12,880
Speaker 1: you know Drew Brees. Is he piling up tons of

2803
02:28:12,959 --> 02:28:16,400
Speaker 1: passing yard? It'e no, but he's not making mistakes. He's

2804
02:28:16,480 --> 02:28:20,240
Speaker 1: now has a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. I

2805
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:22,240
Speaker 1: mean he is the reason why the Eagles are still

2806
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:26,160
Speaker 1: afloat outside of Saquon Barkley's two scores, because, I mean,

2807
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is is the answer to the question what

2808
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 1: happens if the Eagles lose Saquon because they've essentially lost

2809
02:28:34,560 --> 02:28:36,760
Speaker 1: him for a half of this game and the Eagles

2810
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:39,160
Speaker 1: are having a tremendous amount of success.

2811
02:28:39,760 --> 02:28:42,000
Speaker 2: I believe going into this game, the Eagles had won

2812
02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:45,480
Speaker 2: fourteen of their last fifteen home games. So this again

2813
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 2: was a game where you have a rookie quarterback. We

2814
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:51,320
Speaker 2: mentioned this at the top of the show. Jaydon Daniels

2815
02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:54,160
Speaker 2: is the sixth rookie quarterback to take his team to

2816
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:58,720
Speaker 2: the conference championship game. The previous five all lost, and

2817
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:03,000
Speaker 2: again last week the Commanders won. They played great, but

2818
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,400
Speaker 2: the Lions turned the ball over five times and the

2819
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:07,320
Speaker 2: Commanders had zero turnovers.

2820
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:10,800
Speaker 4: So again you're playing a different level of the defense.

2821
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:13,320
Speaker 4: There is an ego defense ranked number one overall in

2822
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:16,600
Speaker 4: the NFL this year, number one in pass defense, and

2823
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:17,360
Speaker 4: they're showing why.

2824
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just.

2825
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:23,680
Speaker 2: About holding teams to minimal yardage. It's about takeaways. It's

2826
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:26,360
Speaker 2: like making things happen. And you mentioned early in the

2827
02:29:26,400 --> 02:29:29,640
Speaker 2: game about special teams. Well again, forcing a fumble on

2828
02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:34,240
Speaker 2: a kickoffs, special teams a huge difference in being down

2829
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:38,440
Speaker 2: one score and now being down two scores twenty seven

2830
02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:41,840
Speaker 2: to twelve. So thirty nine seconds left, the Commanders will

2831
02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:44,200
Speaker 2: take over at their own thirty yard line, and they're

2832
02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:47,400
Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball rich I believe, Yeah, they're gonna

2833
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:50,560
Speaker 2: go for it, a little swing pass. Gonna got to

2834
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 2: get out of the bounds. But I don't know, I

2835
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:56,959
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you don't have I'm not taking

2836
02:29:57,000 --> 02:29:57,880
Speaker 2: any chances here.

2837
02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. You don't have a good feeling

2838
02:30:00,760 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 1: about the Commander's chances in this half for for good reason,

2839
02:30:04,959 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 1: because the momentum is squarely against them right now.

2840
02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, no timeouts for the Commanders, So but they are,

2841
02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:13,119
Speaker 4: they're going to be throwing the ball right now.

2842
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, And this is dan Quinn's way. Uh

2843
02:30:16,520 --> 02:30:18,280
Speaker 2: so pass play over the middle again. They have no

2844
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:20,320
Speaker 2: way to stop the clock. So the clock's going to

2845
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:23,280
Speaker 2: continue to run right now. It's going to be inside

2846
02:30:23,320 --> 02:30:26,320
Speaker 2: twenty seconds left, Commanders, I don't know, a little spike

2847
02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:29,240
Speaker 2: the ball to stop the clock. Okay, what was that?

2848
02:30:29,959 --> 02:30:30,199
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2849
02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:32,520
Speaker 2: What what was that shove by the Eagles?

2850
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:33,360
Speaker 3: What happened there?

2851
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well you see a mover? What happened I mean

2852
02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:41,240
Speaker 1: under center? Yeah? What was this? Trying to slap the

2853
02:30:41,320 --> 02:30:45,040
Speaker 1: ball away before? It's not? Wow?

2854
02:30:45,160 --> 02:30:47,320
Speaker 8: And I think I think in basketball terms that's called

2855
02:30:47,320 --> 02:30:47,959
Speaker 8: a flop too.

2856
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2857
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so Carter came in and just leveled the center.

2858
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean leveled it.

2859
02:30:56,480 --> 02:30:59,920
Speaker 8: I mean yeah, the light tap and the center flew back.

2860
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:02,120
Speaker 3: It's look at this.

2861
02:31:02,959 --> 02:31:04,760
Speaker 2: I think he dislocated his shoulder.

2862
02:31:05,320 --> 02:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I mean I wonder if he'll recover.

2863
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a penalty against Carter. It's not a

2864
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:16,440
Speaker 2: bad penalty when you think about it, I guess yeah.

2865
02:31:16,680 --> 02:31:19,280
Speaker 1: But what's very funny is the center's reaction. I mean,

2866
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,120
Speaker 1: this looks like I mean, let's see.

2867
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he wanted a personal foul.

2868
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:25,240
Speaker 1: I think he did.

2869
02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was fishing for.

2870
02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, you know, forget the encroachment off side

2871
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:32,000
Speaker 4: that was I was attacked.

2872
02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I think he tried

2873
02:31:35,600 --> 02:31:38,720
Speaker 1: to steal my lunch one right now that now they're

2874
02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:40,200
Speaker 1: at the forty six yard line.

2875
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:43,199
Speaker 2: We got twenty one seconds left. You make a couple

2876
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 2: of plays. Now again, they have no way to stop

2877
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:46,840
Speaker 2: the clock in any play over the middle, but at

2878
02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:49,600
Speaker 2: the very least, like you can get a field goal

2879
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:52,680
Speaker 2: attempt coming up here. And here goes Jaydon Daniels scrambling.

2880
02:31:52,840 --> 02:31:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, look at him. He's all the way down

2881
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 2: in thirty five yard lines already, he's gotten in the

2882
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:00,480
Speaker 2: field position.

2883
02:32:00,600 --> 02:32:04,720
Speaker 1: So Zane Gonzalez warming up on the sideline. Yeah, they

2884
02:32:04,959 --> 02:32:07,440
Speaker 1: they leave this half with three points as long as

2885
02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 1: he can see this one through and they don't lose

2886
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:10,800
Speaker 1: any yardage.

2887
02:32:10,879 --> 02:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Yeah, why are you blitzing

2888
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:16,279
Speaker 2: on that play? If you're the Eagles, why were they blitzing?

2889
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:17,039
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2890
02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:19,160
Speaker 3: Did not make any sense.

2891
02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:22,200
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, it wasn't a situation where they were

2892
02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:25,480
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of bodies. They just brought an extra linebacker.

2893
02:32:25,720 --> 02:32:28,960
Speaker 1: They brought five. I mean, so you're playing zone. I

2894
02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:29,280
Speaker 1: have a.

2895
02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Quarterback that, obviously, if he gets out in the open field,

2896
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 2: can do some damage to you. Yeah, and he has

2897
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:36,840
Speaker 2: just ran them. He just ran the ball to the

2898
02:32:36,920 --> 02:32:39,400
Speaker 2: thirty five yard line, fifty two yard field goal a tip.

2899
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:43,120
Speaker 1: If it were me, instead of blitzing that backer, I

2900
02:32:43,320 --> 02:32:46,960
Speaker 1: probably would have played spy, you know, and yeah, and

2901
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:51,200
Speaker 1: just had him hover somewhere, you know, around five yards

2902
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:53,640
Speaker 1: from line of scrimmage and just shore up any of

2903
02:32:53,720 --> 02:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the potential run lanes for Jaden Daniels.

2904
02:32:56,760 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 2: I give if you give the Commanders any reason to

2905
02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:04,400
Speaker 2: come off the field at halftime feeling good about themselves.

2906
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:06,640
Speaker 2: You failed here?

2907
02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:09,920
Speaker 1: What is this? I agree with you? And then they

2908
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:13,320
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal that it's now what that brings?

2909
02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:16,680
Speaker 1: It would be twelve points? Yep, twelve point game. You

2910
02:33:16,840 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 1: stop the Eagles after the half, you score a touchdown.

2911
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:21,200
Speaker 1: They more than that.

2912
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 2: We remember the Commander's season really took off with a

2913
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:27,600
Speaker 2: hail Mary play against the Bears, and right now they

2914
02:33:27,680 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 2: have gotten the ball down to the twenty five yard line.

2915
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 1: This is incredible. What a great drive.

2916
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:35,640
Speaker 2: The seconds to go, all right, so you got six seconds,

2917
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,640
Speaker 2: zach Ertz on the receiving end of that. So twenty

2918
02:33:38,840 --> 02:33:43,400
Speaker 2: five yard lines six seconds and they're bringing Gonzales on now. Yeah,

2919
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:45,720
Speaker 2: yeah they are. That makes sense, all right, and this

2920
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:49,480
Speaker 2: is smart. Just take the three points and come off

2921
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,600
Speaker 2: the field with a positive yep.

2922
02:33:52,360 --> 02:33:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

2923
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:57,160
Speaker 8: I'm running a fake right here to another fake.

2924
02:33:57,440 --> 02:34:00,440
Speaker 4: All the way to the house. Yeah, all right, let's

2925
02:34:00,440 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 4: see if they do fake it. Six seconds to go,

2926
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:04,400
Speaker 4: twenty seven to twelve to break.

2927
02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:05,879
Speaker 1: We got a break, and then we.

2928
02:34:05,959 --> 02:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Got the Eagles trying to freeze them. They're gonna go

2929
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:10,440
Speaker 2: all right. On the other side, we'll tell you what

2930
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 2: went on here and give our thoughts on the upcoming

2931
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:18,040
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game. This is Red Zone Radio. We're at

2932
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:21,879
Speaker 2: halftime in the NFC Championship game. Eagles lead the Commanders

2933
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:24,840
Speaker 2: twenty seven to fifteen. Say get zealous. Did get the

2934
02:34:24,959 --> 02:34:28,240
Speaker 2: field goal. That's a big score for the Commanders. Going

2935
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:30,720
Speaker 2: into the half. By the way, we're live from the

2936
02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 2: ti Raq dot Com studios. Want to thank our crew today,

2937
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Martin of course, jumping in as he always does. He's

2938
02:34:37,480 --> 02:34:43,120
Speaker 2: always on call and doing a brilliant job as always. Chris,

2939
02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:46,480
Speaker 2: who unfortunately I had to bring up the Lions a

2940
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:47,360
Speaker 2: few times today.

2941
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:50,120
Speaker 4: Try to hold off more like a Baker's dozens times.

2942
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:52,040
Speaker 4: I know it was at a little rough on you.

2943
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I like it.

2944
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:53,520
Speaker 3: What do you want out of me?

2945
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:54,040
Speaker 1: What do you want for?

2946
02:34:54,680 --> 02:34:56,959
Speaker 2: You've given too much already, but that's why.

2947
02:34:56,879 --> 02:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I know, and you're still just taking more of my flesh.

2948
02:34:59,680 --> 02:35:04,920
Speaker 2: And bo all right, so let's quick thoughts BO on

2949
02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:08,560
Speaker 2: the first half what you saw from the Eagles.

2950
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:10,280
Speaker 8: I think if the Eagles can do that again in

2951
02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:11,760
Speaker 8: the second half, I think they're in good shape.

2952
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, the numbers are pretty good, obviously, over one hundred

2953
02:35:15,560 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 2: yards on the ground, over one hundred yards through the air.

2954
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:20,360
Speaker 4: That's not the real stat here. The real stat is

2955
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:23,200
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship game has always been cursed year in

2956
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:25,480
Speaker 4: and year out, and right now the pendulum is swinging

2957
02:35:25,800 --> 02:35:27,039
Speaker 4: completely Eagles right now.

2958
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:28,160
Speaker 8: It's a weird game right now.

2959
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:30,039
Speaker 4: Like the fact that they got that turnover to get

2960
02:35:30,040 --> 02:35:32,879
Speaker 4: an extra score before the half. But the Commander Anders

2961
02:35:32,920 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 4: gave himself all that time.

2962
02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:38,240
Speaker 2: Think about it, Commanders rich thirty nine seconds, no timeouts,

2963
02:35:39,160 --> 02:35:42,119
Speaker 2: and you know some teams would have just said, fine,

2964
02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:44,160
Speaker 2: we'll just go into the half and they threw the

2965
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:45,920
Speaker 2: ball and they got three points out of it.

2966
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for Good for Dan Quinn and Jaden Daniels

2967
02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:54,760
Speaker 1: and Cliff Kingsbury offensively for a Quinn trusting that his

2968
02:35:54,879 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback could you know, come back after harrowing first

2969
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:04,359
Speaker 1: half against a team that has won an NFC championship

2970
02:36:04,959 --> 02:36:08,200
Speaker 1: in recent memory and do what he was able to do.

2971
02:36:08,320 --> 02:36:11,040
Speaker 1: But also Cliff Kingsbury for calling a pretty perfect game

2972
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:13,879
Speaker 1: plan there in the final thirty seconds to set up

2973
02:36:13,879 --> 02:36:18,680
Speaker 1: their kicker for an easy three. That is exactly what

2974
02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 1: we talk about when we talk about situational football. The

2975
02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 1: Commanders have not played very good situational football in this game.

2976
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:28,560
Speaker 1: I think they've made some key mistakes. We talked about

2977
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:32,760
Speaker 1: it earlier in the broadcast Steve about turnovers and special

2978
02:36:32,840 --> 02:36:37,640
Speaker 1: teams gaffes, and obviously they've committed all of those cardinal

2979
02:36:37,720 --> 02:36:41,200
Speaker 1: sins here. But in in terms of the way they

2980
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:44,360
Speaker 1: finished the half. You've got to be a little bit excited,

2981
02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:47,560
Speaker 1: if not encouraged, to start the second half. This team's

2982
02:36:47,600 --> 02:36:48,160
Speaker 1: not given up.

2983
02:36:48,320 --> 02:36:48,920
Speaker 3: Well, no doubt.

2984
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:53,760
Speaker 2: Those two turnovers both resulted in Eagles touchdowns, right, I mean,

2985
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:56,360
Speaker 2: that's the difference in a twelve point game. All right,

2986
02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 2: So while we're at halftime of this game, of course,

2987
02:36:58,879 --> 02:37:00,840
Speaker 2: at getting ready and can it's a city out at

2988
02:37:00,959 --> 02:37:04,720
Speaker 2: Arrowheads Stadium, Bill's Chiefs. Whether it'll be in the low thirties,

2989
02:37:04,840 --> 02:37:08,200
Speaker 2: should not be a major factor for two cold weather teams.

2990
02:37:08,320 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 2: So this comes down to this matchup of quarterbacks all

2991
02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:18,520
Speaker 2: time for four little deceiving Josh Allen is four and

2992
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:22,040
Speaker 2: one in the regular season and in the postseason, Mahomes

2993
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:26,040
Speaker 2: is three and zero against Josh Allen and the Bills.

2994
02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, my gut feeling on this game is as

2995
02:37:29,800 --> 02:37:31,840
Speaker 2: much as I would love to see the Bills win,

2996
02:37:32,160 --> 02:37:39,400
Speaker 2: they're not. The Chiefs are that team. And by the way,

2997
02:37:39,680 --> 02:37:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots lost games and it's not like

2998
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:47,119
Speaker 2: the Chiefs didn't lose. We saw that second half inexplicable

2999
02:37:47,240 --> 02:37:51,960
Speaker 2: collapse just three years ago against the Cincinnati Bengals. That

3000
02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:54,720
Speaker 2: was the worst half of football we've ever seen. Patrick

3001
02:37:54,800 --> 02:37:57,320
Speaker 2: Mahomes half, certainly in a big game, so it's not

3002
02:37:57,440 --> 02:38:00,959
Speaker 2: like it's never happened. But my gut again is when

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Speaker 2: we talk about turnovers, what is it now? The Chiefs

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02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:05,840
Speaker 2: have had eight straight games without a turnover. You talk

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Speaker 2: about a team that doesn't beat itself, and it just

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Speaker 2: seems like this year, especially, every single time that the

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Speaker 2: opposing team has done something wrong, the Chiefs have wrung

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Speaker 2: it up every single time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, one of the things that the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: really do well that the Patriots did a great job

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Speaker 1: of two during their run at the top of the league,

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Speaker 1: was they had a quarterback who obviously could execute in

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Speaker 1: key moments and could get you out of trouble and

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02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: was sincerely one of the best players in the league

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Speaker 1: at all points that he was employed. I mean, whether

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Speaker 1: it was with the Patriots or with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: And they have that in Patrick Mahomes. But also as

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Speaker 1: a team, they just didn't make a lot of mistakes defensively,

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Speaker 1: not a ton of stupid penalties I'm talking about in

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Speaker 1: New England. You know, they didn't turn the football over

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Speaker 1: lot special teams. They were pretty hemmed up. They were

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Speaker 1: knotted up well same with the Chiefs. I mean, defensively,

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Speaker 1: they've been on point for two seasons now. Especially, they've

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Speaker 1: really leaned on their defense over the past two seasons,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Spagnola has done a masterful job defensively calling

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Speaker 1: great games. And then you look at just you know,

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's not just Patrick Mahomes, it's all

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Speaker 1: these receivers, they're running backs, the offense in general, they

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Speaker 1: don't turn the football over, they don't commit stupid penalties

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Speaker 1: and key moments. Defensively they force and generate turnovers. And

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Speaker 1: then special teams, they don't make a lot of gaffes

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Speaker 1: eras mistakes if in fact, they usually win on special teams.

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Speaker 1: So that's what made the Patriots special during their two

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Speaker 1: decade run. And honestly, there's a lot of carryover in

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Speaker 1: similarities with Andy Reid's Chiefs teams.

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Speaker 2: They're very similar, very very very similar. And this, as

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Speaker 2: I said before, as far as Andy Reid, this may

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Speaker 2: have been his best coaching job ever. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: just when you win every close game, which was what

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Speaker 2: they've done this year, coaching has a lot to do

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Speaker 2: with it. It's not just because you got your team

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Speaker 2: ready for those critical situations all right, Dan Byer carry

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Speaker 2: Rhodes will carry on. Big games coming up. Keep it

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Speaker 2: here on Red Zone Radio.