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Speaker 1: regular season starting on March Verse. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: jump on the mic and shamelessly use this podcast as
Speaker 1: an excuse to talk about one of my favorite guilty pleasures,
Speaker 1: Sex in the City. So quick spoiler alert, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be mild spoilers for the first two episodes of the
Speaker 1: new Sex in the City of Reboot and just like that.
Speaker 1: So I just finished watching the Sex in the City
Speaker 1: of Reboot and just like that, And back when I
Speaker 1: first started it, I couldn't figure out what exactly was
Speaker 1: going on with the character of Miranda. Why did they
Speaker 1: make her so different than she had been in the
Speaker 1: original show? And as a tech podcaster, I couldn't help
Speaker 1: but wonder why they went out of their way to
Speaker 1: make her so afraid of technology. Seriously, think back to
Speaker 1: the original show, Miranda was a techie. She was online
Speaker 1: before any of her friends, and she was constantly on
Speaker 1: her BlackBerry. Actually, the first time that I ever even
Speaker 1: heard of tevow, which was what we had is DVRs
Speaker 1: back in the day, was because Miranda was obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I saw a TikTok from Shannon McNamara
Speaker 1: pointing this out that it really struck me. So Shannon
Speaker 1: has an amazing podcast called Fluently Forward where she breaks
Speaker 1: down all the latest celebrity gossip, specifically blind items. And
Speaker 1: after watching episode two of and just like that, Shannon
Speaker 1: and I sat down to discuss my name is Shannon
Speaker 1: McNamara and title I don't know, I guess I'm a
Speaker 1: TikToker and podcast or even though it sounds kind of
Speaker 1: weird to describe yourself as that, I think of you
Speaker 1: as a TikTok or podcast as the title I think
Speaker 1: of you. Um So, really, you are this expert in
Speaker 1: pop culture, celebrity and what we call blind items. Can
Speaker 1: you give our listeners who maybe don't know what a
Speaker 1: blind item is, just a rundown of like, what is
Speaker 1: a blind item? Yeah, a blind item is basically a
Speaker 1: bunch of well connected people in the celebrity world who
Speaker 1: are kind of spilling tea that you might not know
Speaker 1: about different celebrities, but in order to not get sued
Speaker 1: for defamation or slander, they wrap it all up in
Speaker 1: a riddle, so you kind of have to figure out
Speaker 1: who they're talking about. Um, So it's like a fun
Speaker 1: way to engage the mind but also get selecious celebrity gossip.
Speaker 1: And I'd say about fifty of the blind items that
Speaker 1: you read do end up coming true, So it's like
Speaker 1: a fun little reward to have people come back and
Speaker 1: keep reading them. Yeah, how did you become someone who
Speaker 1: was so fluent in blind items? Like? How did you
Speaker 1: come to to engage with them so much? Yeah? To
Speaker 1: be honest, I just I feel like we've all been
Speaker 1: here before. We're you're working at a job that you
Speaker 1: just really do not like. And I had a job
Speaker 1: in California where you know, I would have all these
Speaker 1: extra hours that I would have to stay in the office.
Speaker 1: So I started just hopping around different websites, and when
Speaker 1: I discovered websites with blind items, it was just like
Speaker 1: the perfect rabbit hole. Like everyone's experience with blind items
Speaker 1: is that you read one and then you become obsessed
Speaker 1: because you kind of start to learn the language of
Speaker 1: who they're talking about. It was a fun way to
Speaker 1: get like juicy drama that also kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you're accomplishing something when you read them. I know that
Speaker 1: some of the criticisms about following blind items are people
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, it's essentially like celebrity fan fiction,
Speaker 1: or like they are conspiracy theories. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the idea that like blind items can be harmful. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting that the actual owner of Crazy Days and
Speaker 1: Nights Um has talked about this a bit before, and
Speaker 1: he said he thinks blind items are fine because once
Speaker 1: they make it to him, they're kind of local knowledge
Speaker 1: within Hollywood. And I feel like we see that a lot,
Speaker 1: right Like with everything going on with Harvey Weinstein. The
Speaker 1: minute came out, everyone was like, oh, it's an open secret.
Speaker 1: So if it's a blind item, there's already you know,
Speaker 1: thousands of people in Hollywood that I feel like, no
Speaker 1: this information. Of course, some of them are fan fiction.
Speaker 1: Like you have to read everything on the Internet with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. I will get so many d
Speaker 1: m s of people being like I read this blind
Speaker 1: item and it's true, and now I need to cancel
Speaker 1: this person, And I'm like, oh my god, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Just like take it as entertainment, run it through your
Speaker 1: own filter. Um. But that being said, like we do
Speaker 1: live in a crazy time where if I read a
Speaker 1: blind item years ago about Armie Hammer wanting to be
Speaker 1: a cannibal and eat women, I would be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's insane fan fiction. But like, sometimes these
Speaker 1: things turn out to be true, So we do live
Speaker 1: in a crazy world. Like, you know, take it all
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but also some of these
Speaker 1: things happen. I'm a big believer in the power of
Speaker 1: things like whisper networks or you know that, like these
Speaker 1: things when we dismissed them as always incorrect, I feel that, um,
Speaker 1: it really discounts the times we're like, well, no, this
Speaker 1: was the was actually accurate, and like, yeah, maybe it
Speaker 1: did seem far fetched when you heard it, but now
Speaker 1: it's actually now it's common knowledge. Yeah, exactly, And I
Speaker 1: think it's good to flex that muscle at least of
Speaker 1: like just researching something, right, Like if a bunch of
Speaker 1: websites have been saying one thing about a celebrity for years.
Speaker 1: You know, where they're smoke, there's fire, So it's at
Speaker 1: least worth looking into. It's not worth spamming their d
Speaker 1: m s and saying that they're a monster. But like,
Speaker 1: you know, just do your research and see what's going
Speaker 1: to come true. Yeah, I mean and another So one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to talk to you today
Speaker 1: was your really deep, deep dive into blind items around
Speaker 1: Sex in the City and then you're just sort of
Speaker 1: reaction to it. Um, what are your initial thoughts about
Speaker 1: the and just like that reboot of Sex and the City.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So, I mean, Sex and the City
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite shows, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it is for so many people, Like it just hit on,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a cultural phenomenon for a reason,
Speaker 1: Like it's funny, it's witty, it's quick. It has four
Speaker 1: relationships with girls, which, by the way, I think if
Speaker 1: you're going to make a successful TV show having four
Speaker 1: women as the main leads, like you see that in
Speaker 1: Pretty Little Liars. You see that, I mean their men,
Speaker 1: but you see that a new girl, you see that
Speaker 1: in um, Big Little Lies. I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: great set up, but it just meant so much to people.
Speaker 1: And also since the show ended, you've kind of seen
Speaker 1: what all of these actresses did, right, Like so Cynthia
Speaker 1: Nixon went the political route, Sarah Jessica Parker went the
Speaker 1: fashion route, Kim Control kind of removed herself from the scene.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew what was happening with Kristin Davis. So I
Speaker 1: do think everyone says there was no need for the
Speaker 1: show to come back, but I think people were curious about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, what happens afterwards, and especially the feud with
Speaker 1: Kim Control and Sarah Jessica Parker. I think that made
Speaker 1: everybody really curious to see kind of who was quote
Speaker 1: unquote like right in that feud in case you don't know.
Speaker 1: Even though Sam Jones and Terry Bradshaw or BFFs on
Speaker 1: the show, Kim Control and Sarah Jessica Parker, the actors
Speaker 1: who portrayed them on Sex and the City had a
Speaker 1: lot of bad blood behind the scenes. There's accusations and
Speaker 1: exploitation and bullying and people being iced out. And when
Speaker 1: Kim Cantrall's brother tragically passed away, Sarah Jessica Parker sent
Speaker 1: her flowers and Kim responded on Instagram saying to Sarah
Speaker 1: Jessica Parker. You were not my friend, you were not
Speaker 1: my family, and I don't need your love and support
Speaker 1: at this tragic time. Ouch. Now, if you've seen the
Speaker 1: second episode of And Just like That, you'll know this
Speaker 1: actually mirrors a plot line on the series when Carrie's
Speaker 1: husband Big suddenly does Samantha, who has since moved away
Speaker 1: and stopped talking to Carry, still sends flowers. I followed
Speaker 1: that feud pretty closely, and I think, you know, in
Speaker 1: thinking about some of the aspects of the reboot, that
Speaker 1: I didn't really like. I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: bit tacky that, you know, the plot line where Samantha
Speaker 1: sends flowers when carries when when Big dies. Knowing how
Speaker 1: that mirrored their real life feud, I thought was a
Speaker 1: little like like using the platform of sex in the
Speaker 1: City to push this feud into into the audience. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a I didn't really love that mean either.
Speaker 1: And I had been kind of like, I didn't really
Speaker 1: know where I stood on the feud because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I love Kim Control and I love Samantha,
Speaker 1: but you know, everyone sides of Sarah Jessica Parker, and
Speaker 1: she does seem so polite and well put together in interviews.
Speaker 1: And I remember there was this quote she had where
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker said that on her lock screen on
Speaker 1: her phone, it just says Grace and she looks at
Speaker 1: that every time before she speaks publicly, because she wants
Speaker 1: to handle everything she does in the public with Grace.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you know what, maybe they're
Speaker 1: both right in this. You know, there's two sides to
Speaker 1: every story. Maybe Sarah Jessica Parker is on the right.
Speaker 1: And then once they dropped the first two episodes of
Speaker 1: the show, I was like, you know what, I'm on
Speaker 1: Kim control side because the way you handled that was
Speaker 1: not with Grace talking about money problems, talking about death
Speaker 1: like it was just to me, it was just like egregious.
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, and I felt like it was.
Speaker 1: It was not only was it egregious, it felt like
Speaker 1: lazy writing because I don't think that Sam Jones would
Speaker 1: ever She just stood by her friends through so many things.
Speaker 1: I don't think that she would fall out with Carrie
Speaker 1: over money. It seemed to be creating this this version
Speaker 1: of the characters that we had never seen before. Yes,
Speaker 1: like complete fantasy and I think that's why so many
Speaker 1: people were upset. And also, Samantha was the one person
Speaker 1: who her friends meant more to her than anyone because
Speaker 1: she didn't have a partner. You know, it would make
Speaker 1: more sense for Miranda to drop them because she's busy
Speaker 1: with her family, or you know, Charlotte to kind of
Speaker 1: ghost out, but Samantha viewed her friendships as like her family.
Speaker 1: So it's just the whole thing makes no sense. Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break at her back on just like that,
Speaker 1: you'll barely even recognize Miranda. She can't read on a kindle,
Speaker 1: she can't figure out podcasts. It's come clearly out of
Speaker 1: step with a tech forward, no nonsense woman that viewers
Speaker 1: like me fell in love with on the original series.
Speaker 1: Let's get into Miranda, because I feel that if all
Speaker 1: the character a lot of the characters seemed completely out
Speaker 1: of step with who they were in the O G series,
Speaker 1: but almost nobody quite so much as Miranda. And you know,
Speaker 1: when I watched the first two episodes, I couldn't quite
Speaker 1: put my finger on some of the things, like like
Speaker 1: Miranda was the most clear in her ideology as a feminist,
Speaker 1: as an independent woman, as what that meant to be
Speaker 1: an independent woman in your aforities, doing things on your own. Um,
Speaker 1: watching this version of her, now, who is this bumbling
Speaker 1: boomer who is like fumbling everything? I did not recognize
Speaker 1: this woman. And it wasn't until I watched your TikTok
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, yeah, they also really reinvent
Speaker 1: Miranda's relationship with technology, and you know, can can you
Speaker 1: give us some examples of Miranda's relationship to technology in
Speaker 1: the original series? Yeah? So, I mean Miranda was one
Speaker 1: of those characters in the original series who, like nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to say they were a Miranda, but you so
Speaker 1: closely identified with her. And she was just obsessed with technology,
Speaker 1: Like she had so many funny storylines about being obsessed
Speaker 1: with TVO, wanting to go home to what her TV
Speaker 1: TV was recording. Um, she was just on the cutting edge,
Speaker 1: Like she always had her BlackBerry with her. When her
Speaker 1: and Steve went to their honeymoon in the cabin, she
Speaker 1: was like, it's too quiet, Like I need my gadgets,
Speaker 1: I need my Internet things like that. She was the
Speaker 1: one who helped carry get online. She was the one
Speaker 1: that I think, um, in one of the movies when
Speaker 1: they're traveling, she wants to make sure that the place
Speaker 1: has WiFi because she has to be checking her email.
Speaker 1: She was even getting Lasik procedures, like she was on
Speaker 1: top of everything. And then now in this new series,
Speaker 1: she's like, I can't get into podcasts. I would never
Speaker 1: touch a kindle. I I like the way that the
Speaker 1: pages turn on a book, And I'm like you, I've
Speaker 1: never even seen you read a book. For any episode
Speaker 1: of the series, you're watching TiVo and you're on your BlackBerry.
Speaker 1: So it just felt like it wasn't like they were
Speaker 1: taking a personality trait of hers and then making it larger.
Speaker 1: They just completely switched. It was like a black and
Speaker 1: white change, and it just felt like a disservice to
Speaker 1: the character. I completely agree, and your TikTok really helped
Speaker 1: crystallize that for me. And I also think, first of all,
Speaker 1: Miranda would funk with podcasts. She would be listening to MPR,
Speaker 1: she would have a tote bag for MPR, she would
Speaker 1: be She's someone who would really like podcasts. And you know,
Speaker 1: you go back to talking about some of the ways
Speaker 1: that Miranda had this this relationship with technology and the
Speaker 1: original show, keep in mind that we're going back to
Speaker 1: like the late nineties, right, so, like I remember, the
Speaker 1: first time I had ever heard of Tevo was because
Speaker 1: Miranda wanted to watch her like British soap operas on TV.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of Tevo before, right, Nick, Now it's ubiquitous,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't ubiquitous in like um, so she definitely
Speaker 1: was on the cutting edge. Another scene I remember is
Speaker 1: um how she reacts when when they moved to Brooklyn
Speaker 1: and Steve is like, oh, I finally hooked up DSL
Speaker 1: and she you know, I mean that's going back a while,
Speaker 1: you know, back from how we used to get online.
Speaker 1: But like she explodes and joy, She's so happy to
Speaker 1: have it. And yeah, I why do you think that
Speaker 1: they have decided to make her go in this complete
Speaker 1: different direction in terms of her relationship with technology. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it was interesting the comments on that TikTok I made.
Speaker 1: One person said that, and I made another video about
Speaker 1: this where I feel like Samantha was kind of the
Speaker 1: punching bag in the original series, where like you know,
Speaker 1: in the when they go to Ablu Dhabi, She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, I need my hormone pills
Speaker 1: and I'm just like a raging mess of a woman,
Speaker 1: and like if there was anything embarrassing that had to happen,
Speaker 1: they typically gave that scene to Samantha or Miranda, And
Speaker 1: now is Samantha gone. I feel like they need one
Speaker 1: of the characters to be like the Bumblane mess, where
Speaker 1: like funny things happened to them and they're just so
Speaker 1: not with it, and that role kind of fell to Miranda.
Speaker 1: Either that or like they want some sort of boomer
Speaker 1: Karen character, so they just wors Miranda to be it.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people were saying it seems like
Speaker 1: Charlotte would actually be more suited for that role, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't know. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I think. I believe that her in this
Speaker 1: new version of the show, Miranda's tech technophobia and her
Speaker 1: missteps when it comes to things like race relations are
Speaker 1: kind of linked. I feel like they're kind of making
Speaker 1: this point that you know, when a when a middle
Speaker 1: aged person is trying to be like woke or politically correct,
Speaker 1: that they're I think they're trying to demonstrate it as
Speaker 1: a kind of regression for a middle aged woman, and
Speaker 1: I think that like her regression away from technology is
Speaker 1: sort of linked to that. I feel like they're trying
Speaker 1: to make a point about you know, Miranda is really
Speaker 1: going backward, and her inability to talk to like a
Speaker 1: black black college professor is linked to her inability to
Speaker 1: like read a kindle or understand podcast. Like we're watching
Speaker 1: her like regress. Yes, and it seems like Miranda is
Speaker 1: aware because she's always been so like academ me a
Speaker 1: focused and things like that, so it seems like she's
Speaker 1: aware of issues, but she's just handling them wrong. You know,
Speaker 1: like she knows what a microaggression is, but she's committing
Speaker 1: them all over the place. And she knows that you
Speaker 1: need to be able to have an open relationship with
Speaker 1: your child about sex, but instead she's just letting her
Speaker 1: son have sex in the house and not really talking
Speaker 1: to him about it. So it's weird because it's like
Speaker 1: she's almost like she's missing the mark on everything, but
Speaker 1: she knows that she's missing the mark. So it's just
Speaker 1: it's painful to watch. I'm like fast forward in her
Speaker 1: scenes because Miranda used to be the character where like,
Speaker 1: no matter what scene she's in, you know she's going
Speaker 1: to handle herself well. And now every time she comes
Speaker 1: on screen and I'm like, oh God, like, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: That's so true. She was like the most relatable of
Speaker 1: the bunch. I felt like in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: she was kind of the stand in for the audience
Speaker 1: of like, she's gonna she's gonna handle herself. She's not
Speaker 1: gonna get swept off into like Pollyanna Land like Charlotte
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, make all the wrong choices
Speaker 1: like Carrie. My like she like I felt like she knew,
Speaker 1: like the audience knew that she reliably knew how to
Speaker 1: handle herself. And watching her go the opposite direction in
Speaker 1: in the reboot, it's just like, yeah, sometimes it's hard
Speaker 1: to watch. Yes, Yeah, And it's funny because I think, um,
Speaker 1: the rest of the characters are just coming off like
Speaker 1: so much better, you know, Like I'm actually, I don't know,
Speaker 1: kind of driving with Carrie this season when typically, like
Speaker 1: Carrie was not my favorite person to watch on screen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's such a good boy, Dan More after a pickbreak,
Speaker 1: let's get right back into it. Another thing I really
Speaker 1: appreciated about your TikTok is the way that you talk
Speaker 1: about how the sort of institution of sex in the
Speaker 1: City on its own was this kind of great thing
Speaker 1: because you got to under you've got to see these
Speaker 1: like thirty forty fifty something women dealing with sex and
Speaker 1: dating and work, and that's not something we really see
Speaker 1: a lot. You We kind of have this assumption that
Speaker 1: once you're out of your twenties, women just like stop
Speaker 1: being sexual, stop having conversations about sex, stop thinking about sex.
Speaker 1: And we know that's not true. And the show really
Speaker 1: kind of reset that standard in a way that was
Speaker 1: really refreshing. And I guess that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I'm so disappointed in the way that they have
Speaker 1: framed Miranda's relationship to technology, because I see them kind
Speaker 1: of linked right that we have a blanket misconception that
Speaker 1: folks in there are forties, fifties, sixties have no relationship
Speaker 1: to technology. It just like not something in their life,
Speaker 1: and that's just not true. And I guess I wish
Speaker 1: that we could see, you know, the same way that
Speaker 1: we saw Miranda as this like cutting edge person involved
Speaker 1: in technology. I wish we could continue to develop what
Speaker 1: these women and their relationships technology looks like into their sixties.
Speaker 1: I think that like that's not something we see on
Speaker 1: screen a lot, and we have just kind of have
Speaker 1: this blanket assumption that it's, you know, they're not involved
Speaker 1: in technology, but we know that's not true because everybody is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that they're in this new reboot. It's
Speaker 1: just like it's so odd. I feel like they're trying
Speaker 1: to touch on like a bingo card of like trending
Speaker 1: topics and like address it without doing a good job
Speaker 1: on it. And they're even looking at certain things like
Speaker 1: the idea that someone in their fifties, you know, is
Speaker 1: gonna like Steve doesn't have any hearing whatsoever, and like
Speaker 1: Miranda doesn't know what a podcast is. I'm like, my
Speaker 1: parents are in their sixties and they're obsessed with podcasts.
Speaker 1: Like you're making it sound like it's something. I just
Speaker 1: feel like you're putting boomers in like a negative light
Speaker 1: where it's like they're not these bumbling creatures. Sure, like
Speaker 1: some of them are. I don't think they know how
Speaker 1: to TikTok, but like these are still you know, these
Speaker 1: are still smart people. And then they're also talking about
Speaker 1: aging too, where they're talking about like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: can you believe that we're aging in her hair and things?
Speaker 1: Like that. It's like, you don't need to talk about
Speaker 1: it in every scene, just be there. Look how you look.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're touching on these topics, but they're
Speaker 1: talking about them in such a negative light, and it's like,
Speaker 1: this could have been a chance for you to not
Speaker 1: lean into the stereotypes. You know, yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: really like turns. It could have been a chance to
Speaker 1: really give an authentic, nuanced depiction of what it's like
Speaker 1: to be an aging person, and instead they chose to
Speaker 1: lean into caricatures of what that might be like, like
Speaker 1: a real a real like stereotypes, stereotype driven caricature of
Speaker 1: somebody aging. And even in the original series, they talked
Speaker 1: about things like aging and technology, but they did it
Speaker 1: so much better than where Samantha would be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get botox or you know, I'd like to do
Speaker 1: things like this, or yes, you know, I am forty
Speaker 1: and I am still fabulous and I wear glasses. But
Speaker 1: it's okay. And without Samantha there, you just have like
Speaker 1: the negative Nancy's bringing each other down. There's no I
Speaker 1: don't know who in the show is now the empowered
Speaker 1: woman that I want to be like, because I look
Speaker 1: at all three of those ladies, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd want any of their lives. Samantha was
Speaker 1: the person who like, she's fabulous, she's living her life
Speaker 1: on her own terms and loving it, and yeah, looking
Speaker 1: at it now, I don't know who we're supposed to
Speaker 1: look at and say they're living their life on their
Speaker 1: own terms and loving it. Yeah, And I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's some sort of formula for shows
Speaker 1: where you have to have all the care to start
Speaker 1: in a bad place so that way there's like things
Speaker 1: to overcome, and like that's what moves the plot along. Um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, like do all of them have
Speaker 1: to be down so bad? Like couldn't one of them
Speaker 1: be like a role model and they take turns being cringe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's another thing the show was
Speaker 1: just was the first two episodes. Maybe it'll change both
Speaker 1: just real bummers, Like yeah, and what we were thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Peloton thing. I was like they must have
Speaker 1: some serious resentment was someone on there? Because the entire
Speaker 1: advertisement I was like, I'm never working out again in
Speaker 1: my life. It was just such a negative endorsement. It
Speaker 1: was so this has been a big topic of conversation
Speaker 1: in our household because I'm obsessed with indoor cycling, even
Speaker 1: though I don't have a Peloton because I can't afford it.
Speaker 1: But it really like the scene where Miranda and Steve
Speaker 1: are talking in the closet and He's like, it was
Speaker 1: that bike. He should have never been on that bike.
Speaker 1: He was a fool to be on that bike. Like
Speaker 1: the way that they like really make it seem like
Speaker 1: the Peloton was the cause of his death and the
Speaker 1: real world impacts of that, like Peloton shares dropped quickly.
Speaker 1: They put up that ad with Big being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm still alive. I also feel like it really almost
Speaker 1: borders on like a little bit of like your responsible
Speaker 1: information that like cardio causes can cause your death. If
Speaker 1: you work out too hard, you're gonna die. I was
Speaker 1: like what, And I think, like, good for Peloton for
Speaker 1: putting out that ad where it's like or that statement
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, Big drank a lot, he ate steaks.
Speaker 1: He's smoking a cigar earlier in a scene in that
Speaker 1: same episode, so like, let's not pretend it was the
Speaker 1: occasional cardio that might have did him in. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just for them to it was like another thing too,
Speaker 1: where why did it have to be Peloton? And there
Speaker 1: were so many aspects in the show they're talking about Peloton,
Speaker 1: they're talking about um, what was it uh COVID, like
Speaker 1: different references to that. I feel like a show is
Speaker 1: good if it can be timeless, right, Like you could
Speaker 1: hop into any Friends episode or any old sex in
Speaker 1: the City episode and it is what it is. But
Speaker 1: this show just seems like it was made for the
Speaker 1: year two and it was just made as a quick
Speaker 1: cash grab. And I'm sure Kim Control is sitting back
Speaker 1: having a glass of wine, going, thank god it chose
Speaker 1: not to be in this Yes. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: universally being panned and I think you're so right. It
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like if you ever watched
Speaker 1: bow Jack Horsemen, those flashback episodes where it's like this
Speaker 1: is a this is a song about the nineties, because
Speaker 1: this is an episode about the nineties, Like yes on
Speaker 1: this morset Crunge plans, Like that's what I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm watching, like just the missmash of like things we
Speaker 1: remember from one COVID mass Peloton, you know, um, Wokeness,
Speaker 1: all of these different things. Yeah, So my last question
Speaker 1: for you is as a podcaster, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you think about Carrie as a podcast host? How
Speaker 1: does this how does it sit with you? Here's the
Speaker 1: thing I think when I look back on the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know how much of it is
Speaker 1: Carrie versus how much of it is the writers of
Speaker 1: the show. But Carrie is really fucking funny in the show,
Speaker 1: and like, so is Samantha. The lines in there are
Speaker 1: so good. I remember like one of the scenes where
Speaker 1: where Samantha's talking about how she's dating the guy with
Speaker 1: the funkiest tasting spunk, and then they're like, why do
Speaker 1: they think girls are gonna like it? And then they're like,
Speaker 1: well maybe if you know, maybe if men came beer
Speaker 1: or whatever, like they would drink it and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, those are really funny conversations. And also
Speaker 1: they did talk about sex back then, so I don't
Speaker 1: know why they're making out Carrie. It's probably what the
Speaker 1: age boomer think. They're making her out to be such
Speaker 1: a prude, and it's like, you had a sex column.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was so weird. And then that
Speaker 1: her asking big if he masturbates how could you not
Speaker 1: ask that to someone that you've been married to and
Speaker 1: having sex with for like thirty years now. It's it's
Speaker 1: really close to me. So I think Carrie could be
Speaker 1: a great podcaster. But maybe they're just kind of talking
Speaker 1: about this generational idea where like, you know, even my
Speaker 1: parents will listen to my podcast and say, Shannon, you're
Speaker 1: dropping too many F bombs. Um. But people in our
Speaker 1: generation and are happy to talk about like their hemorrhoids
Speaker 1: or their hookups on the internet. So I think that
Speaker 1: Carrie could get into it because she is funny. It's
Speaker 1: just a shame that she's like self censoring herself. This
Speaker 1: is someone who in the nineties wrote a column about
Speaker 1: how a politician wanted her to pee on it like
Speaker 1: the politician yes, yeah, or um, like having an anal
Speaker 1: sex or three sums or I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: there wasn't a single topic because I've rewatched Sex in
Speaker 1: the City now and I've gone, Okay, if they were
Speaker 1: still making the show, what new sexual like taboo or
Speaker 1: fetish is out there that people are engaging to that
Speaker 1: they haven't talked about. And I'm like they actually cover everything,
Speaker 1: like there's no new thing they're talking about vibrators, groups sex.
Speaker 1: It's like they did such a good job of covering
Speaker 1: everything openly on the show. And once again, I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe that's why Samantha is missing, because the show is
Speaker 1: sex in the City, and like nothing sexy has happened
Speaker 1: in the past two episodes. That episode of Big pleasuring
Speaker 1: himself was like, oh my god, I would rather watch
Speaker 1: a scene with Miranda and her professor again, even though
Speaker 1: that was just as bad. It was just like it
Speaker 1: was horrible. It was horrible. It was bad. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing, I'm gonna keep watching like it's so bad
Speaker 1: episode it's on tonight, I think, and you better believe
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the couch. Also, I think they
Speaker 1: did do a good job of setting up Carrie to
Speaker 1: be singles, so now we can see what it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, dating in your fifties or whatever. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad that that's going to happen. I just think, like,
Speaker 1: my god, did they bungle the first two episodes. Well,
Speaker 1: here's I'll be watching, you'll be watching. We'll have to
Speaker 1: stay in touch about how we feel about have the
Speaker 1: next two episodes going down. Definitely, she didn't where can
Speaker 1: folks follow all the hilarious, insightful, eyebrow raising work that
Speaker 1: you are up to? So sweet, I'm I'm fluently forward
Speaker 1: on everything just as one word. Got a story about
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