1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: There Are No Girls on the Internet as a production 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio and Unboss Creative. I'm Bridget Todd 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: If you want to support the podcast, check out our 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: brand new merk store at Tango dot com slash store. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: That's t a n g O t i dot com 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: slash store. So we'll be back for our brand new 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: regular season starting on March Verse. But I wanted to 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: jump on the mic and shamelessly use this podcast as 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: an excuse to talk about one of my favorite guilty pleasures, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Sex in the City. So quick spoiler alert, there's gonna 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: be mild spoilers for the first two episodes of the 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: new Sex in the City of Reboot and just like that. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: So I just finished watching the Sex in the City 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: of Reboot and just like that, And back when I 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: first started it, I couldn't figure out what exactly was 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: going on with the character of Miranda. Why did they 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: make her so different than she had been in the 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: original show? And as a tech podcaster, I couldn't help 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: but wonder why they went out of their way to 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: make her so afraid of technology. Seriously, think back to 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: the original show, Miranda was a techie. She was online 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: before any of her friends, and she was constantly on 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: her BlackBerry. Actually, the first time that I ever even 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: heard of tevow, which was what we had is DVRs 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: back in the day, was because Miranda was obsessed with it. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't until I saw a TikTok from Shannon McNamara 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: pointing this out that it really struck me. So Shannon 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: has an amazing podcast called Fluently Forward where she breaks 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: down all the latest celebrity gossip, specifically blind items. And 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: after watching episode two of and just like that, Shannon 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: and I sat down to discuss my name is Shannon 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: McNamara and title I don't know, I guess I'm a 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: TikToker and podcast or even though it sounds kind of 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: weird to describe yourself as that, I think of you 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: as a TikTok or podcast as the title I think 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: of you. Um So, really, you are this expert in 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: pop culture, celebrity and what we call blind items. Can 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: you give our listeners who maybe don't know what a 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: blind item is, just a rundown of like, what is 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: a blind item? Yeah, a blind item is basically a 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: bunch of well connected people in the celebrity world who 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: are kind of spilling tea that you might not know 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: about different celebrities, but in order to not get sued 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: for defamation or slander, they wrap it all up in 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: a riddle, so you kind of have to figure out 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: who they're talking about. Um, So it's like a fun 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: way to engage the mind but also get selecious celebrity gossip. 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: And I'd say about fifty of the blind items that 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: you read do end up coming true, So it's like 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: a fun little reward to have people come back and 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: keep reading them. Yeah, how did you become someone who 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: was so fluent in blind items? Like? How did you 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: come to to engage with them so much? Yeah? To 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: be honest, I just I feel like we've all been 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: here before. We're you're working at a job that you 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just really do not like. And I had a job 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: in California where you know, I would have all these 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: extra hours that I would have to stay in the office. 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: So I started just hopping around different websites, and when 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: I discovered websites with blind items, it was just like 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: the perfect rabbit hole. Like everyone's experience with blind items 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: is that you read one and then you become obsessed 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: because you kind of start to learn the language of 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: who they're talking about. It was a fun way to 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: get like juicy drama that also kind of feel like 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: you're accomplishing something when you read them. I know that 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: some of the criticisms about following blind items are people 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: who are like, oh, it's essentially like celebrity fan fiction, 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: or like they are conspiracy theories. What do you think 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: about the idea that like blind items can be harmful. Yeah, Well, 72 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting that the actual owner of Crazy Days and 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Nights Um has talked about this a bit before, and 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: he said he thinks blind items are fine because once 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: they make it to him, they're kind of local knowledge 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: within Hollywood. And I feel like we see that a lot, 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: right Like with everything going on with Harvey Weinstein. The 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: minute came out, everyone was like, oh, it's an open secret. 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: So if it's a blind item, there's already you know, 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: thousands of people in Hollywood that I feel like, no 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: this information. Of course, some of them are fan fiction. 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Like you have to read everything on the Internet with 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: a grain of salt. I will get so many d 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: m s of people being like I read this blind 85 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: item and it's true, and now I need to cancel 86 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: this person, And I'm like, oh my god, don't do that. 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Just like take it as entertainment, run it through your 88 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: own filter. Um. But that being said, like we do 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: live in a crazy time where if I read a 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: blind item years ago about Armie Hammer wanting to be 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: a cannibal and eat women, I would be like, oh 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: my god, that's insane fan fiction. But like, sometimes these 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: things turn out to be true, So we do live 94 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: in a crazy world. Like, you know, take it all 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but also some of these 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: things happen. I'm a big believer in the power of 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: things like whisper networks or you know that, like these 98 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: things when we dismissed them as always incorrect, I feel that, um, 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: it really discounts the times we're like, well, no, this 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: was the was actually accurate, and like, yeah, maybe it 101 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: did seem far fetched when you heard it, but now 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: it's actually now it's common knowledge. Yeah, exactly, And I 103 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: think it's good to flex that muscle at least of 104 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: like just researching something, right, Like if a bunch of 105 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: websites have been saying one thing about a celebrity for years. 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, where they're smoke, there's fire, So it's at 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: least worth looking into. It's not worth spamming their d 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: m s and saying that they're a monster. But like, 109 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, just do your research and see what's going 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: to come true. Yeah, I mean and another So one 111 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to talk to you today 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: was your really deep, deep dive into blind items around 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Sex in the City and then you're just sort of 114 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: reaction to it. Um, what are your initial thoughts about 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: the and just like that reboot of Sex and the City. 116 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So, I mean, Sex and the City 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite shows, and I feel like 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: it is for so many people, Like it just hit on, 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was a cultural phenomenon for a reason, 120 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Like it's funny, it's witty, it's quick. It has four 121 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: relationships with girls, which, by the way, I think if 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you're going to make a successful TV show having four 123 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: women as the main leads, like you see that in 124 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Pretty Little Liars. You see that, I mean their men, 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: but you see that a new girl, you see that 126 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: in um, Big Little Lies. I feel like it's a 127 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: great set up, but it just meant so much to people. 128 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: And also since the show ended, you've kind of seen 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: what all of these actresses did, right, Like so Cynthia 130 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Nixon went the political route, Sarah Jessica Parker went the 131 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: fashion route, Kim Control kind of removed herself from the scene. 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Nobody knew what was happening with Kristin Davis. So I 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: do think everyone says there was no need for the 134 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: show to come back, but I think people were curious about, like, 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, what happens afterwards, and especially the feud with 136 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Kim Control and Sarah Jessica Parker. I think that made 137 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: everybody really curious to see kind of who was quote 138 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: unquote like right in that feud in case you don't know. 139 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Even though Sam Jones and Terry Bradshaw or BFFs on 140 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: the show, Kim Control and Sarah Jessica Parker, the actors 141 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: who portrayed them on Sex and the City had a 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of bad blood behind the scenes. There's accusations and 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: exploitation and bullying and people being iced out. And when 144 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Kim Cantrall's brother tragically passed away, Sarah Jessica Parker sent 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: her flowers and Kim responded on Instagram saying to Sarah 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Jessica Parker. You were not my friend, you were not 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: my family, and I don't need your love and support 148 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: at this tragic time. Ouch. Now, if you've seen the 149 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: second episode of And Just like That, you'll know this 150 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: actually mirrors a plot line on the series when Carrie's 151 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: husband Big suddenly does Samantha, who has since moved away 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and stopped talking to Carry, still sends flowers. I followed 153 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: that feud pretty closely, and I think, you know, in 154 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: thinking about some of the aspects of the reboot, that 155 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really like. I thought it was a little 156 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: bit tacky that, you know, the plot line where Samantha 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: sends flowers when carries when when Big dies. Knowing how 158 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: that mirrored their real life feud, I thought was a 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: little like like using the platform of sex in the 160 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: City to push this feud into into the audience. I 161 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: thought that was a I didn't really love that mean either. 162 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: And I had been kind of like, I didn't really 163 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: know where I stood on the feud because I was like, 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, I love Kim Control and I love Samantha, 165 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: but you know, everyone sides of Sarah Jessica Parker, and 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: she does seem so polite and well put together in interviews. 167 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: And I remember there was this quote she had where 168 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker said that on her lock screen on 169 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: her phone, it just says Grace and she looks at 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: that every time before she speaks publicly, because she wants 171 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: to handle everything she does in the public with Grace. 172 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you know what, maybe they're 173 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: both right in this. You know, there's two sides to 174 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: every story. Maybe Sarah Jessica Parker is on the right. 175 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: And then once they dropped the first two episodes of 176 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the show, I was like, you know what, I'm on 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: Kim control side because the way you handled that was 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: not with Grace talking about money problems, talking about death 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: like it was just to me, it was just like egregious. 180 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, and I felt like it was. 181 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: It was not only was it egregious, it felt like 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: lazy writing because I don't think that Sam Jones would 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: ever She just stood by her friends through so many things. 184 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that she would fall out with Carrie 185 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: over money. It seemed to be creating this this version 186 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: of the characters that we had never seen before. Yes, 187 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: like complete fantasy and I think that's why so many 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: people were upset. And also, Samantha was the one person 189 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: who her friends meant more to her than anyone because 190 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: she didn't have a partner. You know, it would make 191 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: more sense for Miranda to drop them because she's busy 192 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: with her family, or you know, Charlotte to kind of 193 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: ghost out, but Samantha viewed her friendships as like her family. 194 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: So it's just the whole thing makes no sense. Let's 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: take a quick break at her back on just like that, 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: you'll barely even recognize Miranda. She can't read on a kindle, 197 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: she can't figure out podcasts. It's come clearly out of 198 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: step with a tech forward, no nonsense woman that viewers 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: like me fell in love with on the original series. 200 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Let's get into Miranda, because I feel that if all 201 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: the character a lot of the characters seemed completely out 202 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: of step with who they were in the O G series, 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: but almost nobody quite so much as Miranda. And you know, 204 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: when I watched the first two episodes, I couldn't quite 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: put my finger on some of the things, like like 206 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,239 Speaker 1: Miranda was the most clear in her ideology as a feminist, 207 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: as an independent woman, as what that meant to be 208 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: an independent woman in your aforities, doing things on your own. Um, 209 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: watching this version of her, now, who is this bumbling 210 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: boomer who is like fumbling everything? I did not recognize 211 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: this woman. And it wasn't until I watched your TikTok 212 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, yeah, they also really reinvent 213 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: Miranda's relationship with technology, and you know, can can you 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: give us some examples of Miranda's relationship to technology in 215 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: the original series? Yeah? So, I mean Miranda was one 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: of those characters in the original series who, like nobody 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: wanted to say they were a Miranda, but you so 218 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: closely identified with her. And she was just obsessed with technology, 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Like she had so many funny storylines about being obsessed 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: with TVO, wanting to go home to what her TV 221 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: TV was recording. Um, she was just on the cutting edge, 222 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Like she always had her BlackBerry with her. When her 223 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: and Steve went to their honeymoon in the cabin, she 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: was like, it's too quiet, Like I need my gadgets, 225 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: I need my Internet things like that. She was the 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: one who helped carry get online. She was the one 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: that I think, um, in one of the movies when 228 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: they're traveling, she wants to make sure that the place 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: has WiFi because she has to be checking her email. 230 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: She was even getting Lasik procedures, like she was on 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: top of everything. And then now in this new series, 232 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: she's like, I can't get into podcasts. I would never 233 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: touch a kindle. I I like the way that the 234 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: pages turn on a book, And I'm like you, I've 235 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: never even seen you read a book. For any episode 236 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of the series, you're watching TiVo and you're on your BlackBerry. 237 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: So it just felt like it wasn't like they were 238 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: taking a personality trait of hers and then making it larger. 239 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: They just completely switched. It was like a black and 240 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: white change, and it just felt like a disservice to 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the character. I completely agree, and your TikTok really helped 242 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: crystallize that for me. And I also think, first of all, 243 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: Miranda would funk with podcasts. She would be listening to MPR, 244 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: she would have a tote bag for MPR, she would 245 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: be She's someone who would really like podcasts. And you know, 246 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: you go back to talking about some of the ways 247 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: that Miranda had this this relationship with technology and the 248 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: original show, keep in mind that we're going back to 249 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: like the late nineties, right, so, like I remember, the 250 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: first time I had ever heard of Tevo was because 251 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: Miranda wanted to watch her like British soap operas on TV. 252 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: I've never heard of Tevo before, right, Nick, Now it's ubiquitous, 253 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: but it wasn't ubiquitous in like um, so she definitely 254 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: was on the cutting edge. Another scene I remember is 255 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: um how she reacts when when they moved to Brooklyn 256 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and Steve is like, oh, I finally hooked up DSL 257 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: and she you know, I mean that's going back a while, 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, back from how we used to get online. 259 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: But like she explodes and joy, She's so happy to 260 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: have it. And yeah, I why do you think that 261 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: they have decided to make her go in this complete 262 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: different direction in terms of her relationship with technology. Yeah, 263 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: well it was interesting the comments on that TikTok I made. 264 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: One person said that, and I made another video about 265 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: this where I feel like Samantha was kind of the 266 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: punching bag in the original series, where like you know, 267 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: in the when they go to Ablu Dhabi, She's like, 268 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, I need my hormone pills 269 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just like a raging mess of a woman, 270 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: and like if there was anything embarrassing that had to happen, 271 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: they typically gave that scene to Samantha or Miranda, And 272 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: now is Samantha gone. I feel like they need one 273 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: of the characters to be like the Bumblane mess, where 274 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: like funny things happened to them and they're just so 275 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: not with it, and that role kind of fell to Miranda. 276 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Either that or like they want some sort of boomer 277 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: Karen character, so they just wors Miranda to be it. 278 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of people were saying it seems like 279 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Charlotte would actually be more suited for that role, and 280 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't know. Yeah, that's kind 281 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: of what I think. I believe that her in this 282 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: new version of the show, Miranda's tech technophobia and her 283 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: missteps when it comes to things like race relations are 284 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of linked. I feel like they're kind of making 285 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: this point that you know, when a when a middle 286 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: aged person is trying to be like woke or politically correct, 287 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: that they're I think they're trying to demonstrate it as 288 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: a kind of regression for a middle aged woman, and 289 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that like her regression away from technology is 290 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: sort of linked to that. I feel like they're trying 291 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: to make a point about you know, Miranda is really 292 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: going backward, and her inability to talk to like a 293 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: black black college professor is linked to her inability to 294 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: like read a kindle or understand podcast. Like we're watching 295 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: her like regress. Yes, and it seems like Miranda is 296 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: aware because she's always been so like academ me a 297 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: focused and things like that, so it seems like she's 298 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: aware of issues, but she's just handling them wrong. You know, 299 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: like she knows what a microaggression is, but she's committing 300 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: them all over the place. And she knows that you 301 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: need to be able to have an open relationship with 302 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: your child about sex, but instead she's just letting her 303 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: son have sex in the house and not really talking 304 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: to him about it. So it's weird because it's like 305 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: she's almost like she's missing the mark on everything, but 306 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: she knows that she's missing the mark. So it's just 307 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: it's painful to watch. I'm like fast forward in her 308 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: scenes because Miranda used to be the character where like, 309 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: no matter what scene she's in, you know she's going 310 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: to handle herself well. And now every time she comes 311 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: on screen and I'm like, oh God, like, what's gonna happen? 312 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: That's so true. She was like the most relatable of 313 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: the bunch. I felt like in a lot of ways, 314 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: she was kind of the stand in for the audience 315 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: of like, she's gonna she's gonna handle herself. She's not 316 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna get swept off into like Pollyanna Land like Charlotte 317 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: or you know, you know, make all the wrong choices 318 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: like Carrie. My like she like I felt like she knew, 319 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: like the audience knew that she reliably knew how to 320 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: handle herself. And watching her go the opposite direction in 321 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: in the reboot, it's just like, yeah, sometimes it's hard 322 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: to watch. Yes, Yeah, And it's funny because I think, um, 323 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the characters are just coming off like 324 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: so much better, you know, Like I'm actually, I don't know, 325 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of driving with Carrie this season when typically, like 326 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Carrie was not my favorite person to watch on screen. Yeah, 327 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: that's such a good boy, Dan More after a pickbreak, 328 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: let's get right back into it. Another thing I really 329 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: appreciated about your TikTok is the way that you talk 330 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: about how the sort of institution of sex in the 331 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: City on its own was this kind of great thing 332 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: because you got to under you've got to see these 333 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: like thirty forty fifty something women dealing with sex and 334 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: dating and work, and that's not something we really see 335 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot. You We kind of have this assumption that 336 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: once you're out of your twenties, women just like stop 337 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: being sexual, stop having conversations about sex, stop thinking about sex. 338 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: And we know that's not true. And the show really 339 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of reset that standard in a way that was 340 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: really refreshing. And I guess that's one of the reasons 341 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: why I'm so disappointed in the way that they have 342 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: framed Miranda's relationship to technology, because I see them kind 343 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: of linked right that we have a blanket misconception that 344 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: folks in there are forties, fifties, sixties have no relationship 345 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: to technology. It just like not something in their life, 346 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and that's just not true. And I guess I wish 347 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: that we could see, you know, the same way that 348 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: we saw Miranda as this like cutting edge person involved 349 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: in technology. I wish we could continue to develop what 350 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: these women and their relationships technology looks like into their sixties. 351 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: I think that like that's not something we see on 352 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: screen a lot, and we have just kind of have 353 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: this blanket assumption that it's, you know, they're not involved 354 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: in technology, but we know that's not true because everybody is. Yeah, 355 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: and I think that they're in this new reboot. It's 356 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: just like it's so odd. I feel like they're trying 357 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to touch on like a bingo card of like trending 358 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: topics and like address it without doing a good job 359 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: on it. And they're even looking at certain things like 360 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: the idea that someone in their fifties, you know, is 361 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 1: gonna like Steve doesn't have any hearing whatsoever, and like 362 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Miranda doesn't know what a podcast is. I'm like, my 363 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: parents are in their sixties and they're obsessed with podcasts. 364 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Like you're making it sound like it's something. I just 365 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: feel like you're putting boomers in like a negative light 366 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: where it's like they're not these bumbling creatures. Sure, like 367 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: some of them are. I don't think they know how 368 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: to TikTok, but like these are still you know, these 369 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: are still smart people. And then they're also talking about 370 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: aging too, where they're talking about like, oh my god, 371 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: can you believe that we're aging in her hair and things? 372 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Like that. It's like, you don't need to talk about 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: it in every scene, just be there. Look how you look. 374 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel like they're touching on these topics, but they're 375 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: talking about them in such a negative light, and it's like, 376 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: this could have been a chance for you to not 377 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: lean into the stereotypes. You know, yeah, I think it 378 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: really like turns. It could have been a chance to 379 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: really give an authentic, nuanced depiction of what it's like 380 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: to be an aging person, and instead they chose to 381 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: lean into caricatures of what that might be like, like 382 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: a real a real like stereotypes, stereotype driven caricature of 383 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: somebody aging. And even in the original series, they talked 384 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: about things like aging and technology, but they did it 385 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: so much better than where Samantha would be like, yeah, 386 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: I get botox or you know, I'd like to do 387 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: things like this, or yes, you know, I am forty 388 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: and I am still fabulous and I wear glasses. But 389 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: it's okay. And without Samantha there, you just have like 390 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: the negative Nancy's bringing each other down. There's no I 391 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: don't know who in the show is now the empowered 392 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: woman that I want to be like, because I look 393 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: at all three of those ladies, and I'm like, I 394 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: don't think i'd want any of their lives. Samantha was 395 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: the person who like, she's fabulous, she's living her life 396 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: on her own terms and loving it, and yeah, looking 397 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: at it now, I don't know who we're supposed to 398 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: look at and say they're living their life on their 399 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: own terms and loving it. Yeah, And I you know, 400 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's some sort of formula for shows 401 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: where you have to have all the care to start 402 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: in a bad place so that way there's like things 403 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: to overcome, and like that's what moves the plot along. Um, 404 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know, like do all of them have 405 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: to be down so bad? Like couldn't one of them 406 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: be like a role model and they take turns being cringe? 407 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's another thing the show was 408 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: just was the first two episodes. Maybe it'll change both 409 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: just real bummers, Like yeah, and what we were thoughts 410 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: on the Peloton thing. I was like they must have 411 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: some serious resentment was someone on there? Because the entire 412 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: advertisement I was like, I'm never working out again in 413 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: my life. It was just such a negative endorsement. It 414 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: was so this has been a big topic of conversation 415 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: in our household because I'm obsessed with indoor cycling, even 416 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: though I don't have a Peloton because I can't afford it. 417 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: But it really like the scene where Miranda and Steve 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: are talking in the closet and He's like, it was 419 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: that bike. He should have never been on that bike. 420 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: He was a fool to be on that bike. Like 421 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: the way that they like really make it seem like 422 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: the Peloton was the cause of his death and the 423 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: real world impacts of that, like Peloton shares dropped quickly. 424 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: They put up that ad with Big being like, oh, 425 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm still alive. I also feel like it really almost 426 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: borders on like a little bit of like your responsible 427 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: information that like cardio causes can cause your death. If 428 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: you work out too hard, you're gonna die. I was 429 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: like what, And I think, like, good for Peloton for 430 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: putting out that ad where it's like or that statement 431 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: where it's like, well, Big drank a lot, he ate steaks. 432 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: He's smoking a cigar earlier in a scene in that 433 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: same episode, so like, let's not pretend it was the 434 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: occasional cardio that might have did him in. Yeah, and 435 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: just for them to it was like another thing too, 436 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: where why did it have to be Peloton? And there 437 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: were so many aspects in the show they're talking about Peloton, 438 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: they're talking about um, what was it uh COVID, like 439 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: different references to that. I feel like a show is 440 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: good if it can be timeless, right, Like you could 441 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: hop into any Friends episode or any old sex in 442 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the City episode and it is what it is. But 443 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: this show just seems like it was made for the 444 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: year two and it was just made as a quick 445 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: cash grab. And I'm sure Kim Control is sitting back 446 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: having a glass of wine, going, thank god it chose 447 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: not to be in this Yes. I mean, it's like 448 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: universally being panned and I think you're so right. It 449 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like if you ever watched 450 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: bow Jack Horsemen, those flashback episodes where it's like this 451 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: is a this is a song about the nineties, because 452 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: this is an episode about the nineties, Like yes on 453 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: this morset Crunge plans, Like that's what I feel like 454 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm watching, like just the missmash of like things we 455 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: remember from one COVID mass Peloton, you know, um, Wokeness, 456 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: all of these different things. Yeah, So my last question 457 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: for you is as a podcaster, what do you what 458 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: do you think about Carrie as a podcast host? How 459 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: does this how does it sit with you? Here's the 460 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: thing I think when I look back on the show, 461 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know how much of it is 462 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Carrie versus how much of it is the writers of 463 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: the show. But Carrie is really fucking funny in the show, 464 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: and like, so is Samantha. The lines in there are 465 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: so good. I remember like one of the scenes where 466 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: where Samantha's talking about how she's dating the guy with 467 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: the funkiest tasting spunk, and then they're like, why do 468 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: they think girls are gonna like it? And then they're like, 469 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: well maybe if you know, maybe if men came beer 470 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: or whatever, like they would drink it and stuff like that, 471 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, those are really funny conversations. And also 472 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: they did talk about sex back then, so I don't 473 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: know why they're making out Carrie. It's probably what the 474 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: age boomer think. They're making her out to be such 475 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: a prude, and it's like, you had a sex column. 476 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: I just thought it was so weird. And then that 477 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: her asking big if he masturbates how could you not 478 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: ask that to someone that you've been married to and 479 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: having sex with for like thirty years now. It's it's 480 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: really close to me. So I think Carrie could be 481 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: a great podcaster. But maybe they're just kind of talking 482 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: about this generational idea where like, you know, even my 483 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: parents will listen to my podcast and say, Shannon, you're 484 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: dropping too many F bombs. Um. But people in our 485 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: generation and are happy to talk about like their hemorrhoids 486 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: or their hookups on the internet. So I think that 487 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Carrie could get into it because she is funny. It's 488 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: just a shame that she's like self censoring herself. This 489 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: is someone who in the nineties wrote a column about 490 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: how a politician wanted her to pee on it like 491 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: the politician yes, yeah, or um, like having an anal 492 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: sex or three sums or I mean, I feel like 493 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: there wasn't a single topic because I've rewatched Sex in 494 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: the City now and I've gone, Okay, if they were 495 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: still making the show, what new sexual like taboo or 496 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: fetish is out there that people are engaging to that 497 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: they haven't talked about. And I'm like they actually cover everything, 498 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: like there's no new thing they're talking about vibrators, groups sex. 499 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: It's like they did such a good job of covering 500 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: everything openly on the show. And once again, I'm like, 501 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe that's why Samantha is missing, because the show is 502 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: sex in the City, and like nothing sexy has happened 503 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: in the past two episodes. That episode of Big pleasuring 504 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: himself was like, oh my god, I would rather watch 505 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: a scene with Miranda and her professor again, even though 506 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: that was just as bad. It was just like it 507 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: was horrible. It was horrible. It was bad. But here's 508 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: the thing, I'm gonna keep watching like it's so bad 509 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: episode it's on tonight, I think, and you better believe 510 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the couch. Also, I think they 511 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: did do a good job of setting up Carrie to 512 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: be singles, so now we can see what it's like, 513 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, dating in your fifties or whatever. So I'm 514 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: glad that that's going to happen. I just think, like, 515 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: my god, did they bungle the first two episodes. Well, 516 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: here's I'll be watching, you'll be watching. We'll have to 517 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: stay in touch about how we feel about have the 518 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: next two episodes going down. Definitely, she didn't where can 519 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: folks follow all the hilarious, insightful, eyebrow raising work that 520 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: you are up to? So sweet, I'm I'm fluently forward 521 00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: on everything just as one word. Got a story about 522 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: an interesting thing in tech, or just want to say hi? 523 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: You can reach us at Hello at tangodi dot com. 524 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: You can also find transcripts for today's episode at tangdi 525 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: dot com. There Are No Girls on the Internet was 526 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: created by me Bridget Tod. 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