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Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys, let's listen up.

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Speaker 1: We won a game yesterday.

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Speaker 3: If we win one today, that's two.

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Speaker 1: In a row.

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Speaker 4: We win one tomorrow, that's called a winning streak.

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Speaker 1: It has happened before. So let's see some hustle. Let's

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Speaker 5: I got a feeling things we're about to turn around

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Speaker 2: So win with every single facet. We're gonna win so much.

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Speaker 2: You may even get tired of winning, and you'll say, please, please,

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Speaker 2: it's too much winning.

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Speaker 1: We can't take.

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Speaker 2: It anymore, mister President, It's too much, and I'll say, no.

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Speaker 1: It isn't.

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Speaker 2: We have to keep winning. We have to win more.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win more. We're gonna win so much.

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Speaker 6: We've regained our stride, we discovered our spirit. America is thriving,

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Speaker 6: America is flourishing, and yes, America is winning again like

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Speaker 7: The task before us will not be easy, but I

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Speaker 1: This is a great job.

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Speaker 8: There's no job like this this is the most important

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Speaker 8: first term. We had a great first term, a great,

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Speaker 6: Promises made, promises kept.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep our promises. Big beautiful bill passed

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Speaker 1: The Reverend Jimmy Swaggert, one of the most famous televangelists

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one there, you know.

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Speaker 4: I n s let's kick it all right, stop collaborate

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Speaker 1: We love it.

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Speaker 4: You're leaving home and don't lay you better hit the road.

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Speaker 4: Jack Couldrif you are a problem, Trump just solved at

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Speaker 4: the border. In the door that's revolving, Nice my Spain,

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Speaker 4: trom over us my Spain head, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Over us my Spain Domice, my Spain.

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Speaker 9: Tom Over, I want to go. I is coming.

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Speaker 1: I prefer I say, is coming? Really lie my lie?

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Speaker 1: Nice is coming?

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Speaker 4: USA is coming.

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Speaker 1: I've been here three years.

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Speaker 1: Prom all in Nice my Spain.

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Speaker 4: Tom holding Ice.

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Speaker 1: Americans want our nation to be safe. Americans want illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens deported. It's just that simple. The Democrats and their

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Speaker 1: the deportation raids continue. And CNN injected themselves into this situation.

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Speaker 1: They spent a segment promoting an app on your phone

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Speaker 11: One tech developer is pushing back with an app designed

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Speaker 11: and it's controversial, to say the least. Saint Claire Duffy

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Speaker 12: Yeah, John, I talked with Joshua Aaron, who is the

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 1: You open the app.

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Speaker 12: It looks like a map and users can tap the

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Speaker 1: Here's what he told me.

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Speaker 9: Take a listen.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you have shared holders to report to you.

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Speaker 1: But at what point do you say enough is enough?

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Speaker 12: And John, I should say that I did not respond

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Speaker 1: Who did respond? Because what they're really doing is they're

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Speaker 3: This is simply disgusting, and any network that covers. That

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Speaker 3: compeding federal lawenforcement ofshers. Look, Laurs, you're not talking about

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Speaker 3: this assault again. SIS is up over five percent. Now

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Speaker 3: you've got an app. It's going to tell where ICE

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Speaker 3: time where ICE ages are ambushed by some nut like

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Speaker 3: So I hope DOJ dives in this deeply because you

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Speaker 3: There shouldn't be an issue anybody's is against. So they're

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Speaker 3: this app makes it that much more dangerous. It's incredible

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Speaker 3: Why I was seeing in promote this? Why would they

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Speaker 3: I've I've been doing this for four decades. I've never

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Speaker 9: up for herself. She's better let that boy have what

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Speaker 9: And that is what's so distasteful to me as someone

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Speaker 9: that would still call myself a feminist. Haven't we been

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Speaker 9: wanting our daughters to believe they can do anything? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 9: I want my daughter she dates.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you because of the world you

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Speaker 1: come out of, which was originally jimastics. To see Simone

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Speaker 1: Biles go after Riley Gaines in the way she did,

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Speaker 1: and she got a real SmackDown from I think that

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Speaker 1: was a real wake up call to Simone Biles. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're on the wrong side of this issue. On the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty Outstanding Investigative Documentary. It was a documentary on

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? How was that allowed to happen?

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Speaker 9: The sport viewed the athletes as mere coggs, not as

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Speaker 1: Horribly.

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Speaker 9: I mean, one of the things I wanted to make

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Speaker 9: clear in the movie is Larry Nasser was not won

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Speaker 9: that apple. The entire sport treats these young girls as

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Speaker 9: Gymnastics and the US Olympic Committee. They are treated with

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Speaker 9: zero humanity. They are emotionally and physically abused, and that

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Speaker 9: sports governing bodies, these organizations like USA Gymnastics, the USOPC,

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Speaker 9: they cover up any abuse because they are trying to

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Speaker 9: burnish an image in gymnastics any way of happy, shiny

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Speaker 9: little pixies. That's what brings in the sponsorship dollars and

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Speaker 9: pays the high salaries of the leaders at these sport

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Speaker 9: governing bodies. The sport governing bodies will never do the

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Speaker 9: right thing. They will do the cowardly thing that they

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Speaker 9: think presents the image that the public wants, which is

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Speaker 9: why they're not going to stand up to protect women's

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Speaker 9: sports and girls' sports until the public makes their views known.

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Speaker 9: Eighty percent of the public, eighty percent of Americans agree

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Speaker 9: with you and with me, because it's like a normal

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Speaker 9: But the vast majority of those are silent, and so

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Speaker 9: these governing bodies are catering to the very loud, woke minority.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer says, that's how it happened.

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Speaker 9: No protecting.

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Speaker 1: Polo Texas for able to occur, as for good people

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Speaker 1: to do nothing. To quote Burke, the company is called

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Speaker 1: xx x y Athletics, of which she is the founder

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Speaker 1: in CEO. A Stanford grad, a gymnastics standout, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get to writing because I always asked this question.

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Speaker 1: You wrote a book called Chalked Up, your autobiography of

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Speaker 1: your time as an elite gymnast, and when you left

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Speaker 1: Levi's you published in late twenty twenty two Levi's Unbuttoned.

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Speaker 1: The Woke Mob took my job, but gave me my

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Speaker 1: voice about your time there and how the woke mob

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Speaker 1: came after you take about a minute and a half

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Speaker 1: if you would and talk about the writing process for you,

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Speaker 1: because I always encourage people to do this. When do

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Speaker 1: you write, how do you write? How do you structure?

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Speaker 9: That's so that's such a great question. Well, I would

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Speaker 9: say with both of the books I've written, it was

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Speaker 9: I had to write it. You know. When I wrote

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Speaker 9: Chalked Up, my first book, I'd never really written much

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Speaker 9: of anything besides the college paper. But I had an idea.

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Speaker 9: I knew the tone of voice, I knew the storyline,

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Speaker 9: and I sat down and wrote it early mornings, late

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Speaker 9: at night because I was working a full time job

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Speaker 9: with LEVI'SU Button. That was my full time job. But

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Speaker 9: I wrote them both in about three months. I write

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Speaker 9: regularly on my own substuck. I write appas all the time.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, I just enjoy it. I have an

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Speaker 9: idea and then it's just like this compulsion that I

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Speaker 9: have to get it out.

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Speaker 1: It's cathartic. Yeah, what's the book you have.

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Speaker 9: The success of XXA athletics?

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Speaker 1: What is your number close with? What is your number

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Speaker 1: one selling item and what kind of I got about

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Speaker 1: forty five seconds left. What would you? Who is the

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Speaker 1: prime customer? Why does somebody want to buy xxxy athletics?

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Speaker 9: The number one selling item is a logo key. It's

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Speaker 9: black with a green logo. We offerate for men and

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Speaker 9: for women. The number one selling customer is a woman

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Speaker 9: who did sports in college and was a beneficiary of

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Speaker 9: Title nine and wants that same opportunity for her daughter.

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Speaker 1: For you, Jennifer, say you're amazing. Keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Love to have you back.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Michael,