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Speaker 1: My guest is Julius Tennon. He's a coach, president and

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Speaker 1: Juvie Productions, which he founded with his wife, Viola Davis.

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Speaker 1: Julius and accomplished film, television and theater. Veteran actor which

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Speaker 1: I didn't know all I knew it was a producer.

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Speaker 1: So I reading this biom just I'm learning so much.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna learn a lot to buy them on

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Speaker 1: this show, but spiling all the stuff I did know.

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Speaker 1: Producing with over thirty years of experience, ju v A

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Speaker 1: cree scripted and non scripted television, film, documentaries, theater and

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Speaker 1: digital immersive content for global audiences. The company currently has

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Speaker 1: the first look feature production deal with Amazon Studios on

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Speaker 1: with ABC Studios and ABC Signature Studios. Were broadcast, cable,

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Speaker 1: streaming and digital platforms. Please working with the Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass, the one and only Julius Tennan. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing, sir um del I'm doing good. Rashan, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. And let me just say the ABC

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and we've developed quite a robust

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Speaker 1: we already did. Well. You know something, Julius, and thank

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, I always realized

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Speaker 1: How does it make Juvie Productions unique? Well, what you

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Speaker 1: Because the company was founded to uh boast of Viola's career,

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald speaking to Julius Tendant.

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Speaker 1: He's the co president of ju V Productions, which he

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Speaker 1: then a lot of times when you see the finished project,

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Speaker 1: happened before this movement came to life. And it's the

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's all kinds of things that are

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Speaker 1: and you just kind of want to keep the train,

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Speaker 1: as I said, keep the train on the tracks, and

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Speaker 1: you know, And and and because we knew the importance, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't want to disappoint. We wanted to deliver

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Speaker 1: something that would have everything that that speaks to the

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Speaker 1: human spirit. You know, everything is in this movie. So

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Speaker 1: that's why viscerally you're getting these gasps and lass and pride. Right,

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Speaker 1: you just feel like, God, damn, this is us. If

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Speaker 1: we could come together like that, please we could. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's no limit to what we can do you And

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Speaker 1: so that was that was the whole idea. Everybody knew

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Speaker 1: how important it wasn't we when got it, but it

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Speaker 1: was important as well. As we closed this interview, thank

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Speaker 1: you for giving you the time to interview Julius Um.

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Speaker 1: Methods that help you win? I always like to ask

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Speaker 1: people who would like you because you you you said

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Speaker 1: a little bitter, but just to hear but have my audience,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the methods that help you win? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what. One of the things is that you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to know who you are, You have to

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Speaker 1: know what it is you want to put into the world,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to be dedicated to do the

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Speaker 1: hard work to make it happen. Because it's only on

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Speaker 1: the other side of hard work that the success that

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Speaker 1: the money's gonna come, and so in our business it

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Speaker 1: can be really kind of fickle. But you have to

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Speaker 1: stay you have to stay focused, and you have to

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Speaker 1: know what it is you want to do, and then

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Speaker 1: you have to have the courage and sammon to do

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Speaker 1: it because in our business, sometimes to take seven years

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Speaker 1: for this one, sometimes take years. Right, you believe in

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Speaker 1: it and you stick with it, good things happen. Cool.

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Speaker 1: Every Wednesday, I have a newsletter goes out to six

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Speaker 1: or six thousand people, have an open rate of thirty

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Speaker 1: seven percent. Send me that badder brother second dropping in

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Speaker 1: there so I can put it on model million followers.

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Speaker 1: I put it on my linked in account. Hey, but

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Speaker 1: I can only accept and support greatness and what you

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Speaker 1: and fol it doing man, not only inspires me and

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Speaker 1: also younger people. I'm pretty sure people have walked up

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Speaker 1: to you and go, you know you I spoke to

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Speaker 1: you several years ago when I was just an assistant

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Speaker 1: or I was doing security, or you go huh, and

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Speaker 1: you know, because you're doing it, brother, I know, I

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Speaker 1: know it's happened to you, do I know it just

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Speaker 1: trips you out. It happens to me. I go, I

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Speaker 1: go okay, man, and they said, you know, you're the

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Speaker 1: only producer eppisode that was Black Owners set or executive producer.

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Speaker 1: Black Owners said there was a man, man, that's that's

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Speaker 1: why I just gotta called tip my hat. Brother. Let

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Speaker 1: you know I'm tipping my hat and said thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're at the front line. You're a little bit further

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Speaker 1: front than me, but I love it, man, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna support you. So get those batties to you. Know what, brother, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull you up. I'm gonna throw you the

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Speaker 1: rule and I'm gonna pull you right up with you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna keep doing this together. That's what

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Speaker 1: we have to do. We gotta pull each other up.

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Speaker 1: We gotta believe in who we are and then we

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Speaker 1: have to support one another. Julius, thank you for the time. Man.

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Speaker 1: Get those batteries to me. Man. I love your brother.

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Speaker 1: Smile is fantastic and any time you need me on

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Speaker 1: the promotion and I'm there for you. Okay, appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: love your brother. Take care of