Speaker 1: This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. Hi, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to an episode of Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty.
Speaker 1: So Father's Day we just had it. I Father's Day
Speaker 1: is really special for a lot of people. For some people,
Speaker 1: it's not, which I really sympathize with. I can't even
Speaker 1: imagine what it's like or what it was like for
Speaker 1: some of you to not have the kind of dad
Speaker 1: that I had, and hopefully you had a brother or
Speaker 1: an uncle or a friend or you know, a foundation
Speaker 1: that helped you out, or your mom. Your sale mom
Speaker 1: was phenomenal, you know, having dual characters, father and mother.
Speaker 1: I consider myself extremely lucky because I had great parents.
Speaker 1: My dad and I were extremely extremely close. I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is PC to be frank, I don't
Speaker 1: really care anymore, you know, cancel culture is so ridiculous anyway.
Speaker 1: But my dad used to tell me as a kid
Speaker 1: growing up, like you're me and drag because I resembled
Speaker 1: him so much in personality.
Speaker 2: We sort of thought the same in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: And certainly.
Speaker 1: Me growing up in the business and being exposed to
Speaker 1: so many different people and all ethnicities, like all of
Speaker 1: it definitely broadened my horizons a lot. I have a
Speaker 1: you know, huge acceptance for everybody out there.
Speaker 2: My dad did too, but.
Speaker 1: He was just he was so intelligent, and he was
Speaker 1: so thoughtful with his words and how he treated others.
Speaker 1: I just remember him as being, you know, a rock
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I think that what's incredibly
Speaker 1: important for fathers and daughters is that because that relationship
Speaker 1: is so special. I think fathers and daughters are you know,
Speaker 1: incredibly close. It's actually later in life that mothers and
Speaker 1: daughters get closer. At least that was the case for me.
Speaker 1: But I I always knew that no matter what I did,
Speaker 1: my dad was going to hear me out, talk to
Speaker 1: me about it, not judge me. He may say, hey,
Speaker 1: you can make a better decision, and you should make
Speaker 1: better decisions in the future, but he would talk me
Speaker 1: through that decision and sort of the reasons why my
Speaker 1: decision was not right. But again, I never felt judged.
Speaker 1: I never felt like he was turning his back on me.
Speaker 1: I always felt that I had, you know, a champion
Speaker 1: in my corner. I always felt that, you know, he'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, you know, we're bearing the body again,
Speaker 1: probably not PC, but like I said, I don't care.
Speaker 1: So my dad always challenged me mentally from a young age.
Speaker 1: When I could first read him and my mom, uh
Speaker 1: put newspapers in front of myself and my brother, and
Speaker 1: when we all had dinner collectively as a family, because
Speaker 1: that was a requirement, we had to have read the
Speaker 1: newspaper and discuss world events, discuss what was on you know,
Speaker 1: that front page of the newspaper, and really and then
Speaker 1: if we kept reading the newspaper, you know how we
Speaker 1: felt about other things. Obviously, when you're like five or six,
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't really know what any of this means.
Speaker 1: But it was something that continued throughout my life, so
Speaker 1: that when I started comprehending what those newspaper articles we're
Speaker 1: talking about. And this was you know, obviously back in
Speaker 1: the seventies when I think, I don't know, we're newspapers
Speaker 1: more honest back then, I actually don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like they were.
Speaker 1: I feel like we live in a day and age
Speaker 1: of clickbait and there's not really a lot of honest journalists.
Speaker 1: But you know, my dad would have us, my brother
Speaker 1: and I like decipher what this was and what it meant.
Speaker 1: And again when we got older, putting our own opinions
Speaker 1: into it and having really intelligent and calm debates. And
Speaker 1: it's only helped me in school, it helped my brother,
Speaker 1: he was on the debate team, because yes, we were
Speaker 1: able to formulate our opinions, but we had people at
Speaker 1: home that would counteract that, that would even if they
Speaker 1: believed in the same things we believed in, they would
Speaker 1: take the opposite role, just so we would have to
Speaker 1: come up with intelligent arguments for what we had sort
Speaker 1: of translated from that newspaper and our you know, young
Speaker 1: brains had figured whatever out. So forever grateful for that.
Speaker 1: I'm forever grateful for his you know, intense love, the
Speaker 1: fact that I always felt like I had a place
Speaker 1: to run to and that I had someone to talk to.
Speaker 1: My dad was you know, very very very sick, and
Speaker 1: I was growing up. He had you know, his first,
Speaker 1: I think heart attack in his thirties, and I remember
Speaker 1: it was in the Dallas airport. But he still managed
Speaker 1: to bring me a bear stuffed teddy bear that he
Speaker 1: had bought me in Dallas, which I still have that
Speaker 1: teddy bear. I think to grow up loving someone to
Speaker 1: that degree and then have them be so sick impacted
Speaker 1: me in a lot of ways that I didn't realize
Speaker 1: until I was a lot older.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Watching him go in and out of the hospital, and
Speaker 1: the fear that I constantly felt of is this going
Speaker 1: to be the last time I see him? Is he
Speaker 1: going to die? Is he not going to come out
Speaker 1: of the hospital. It definitely brought up feelings of abandonment.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like that he was doing that to me.
Speaker 2: It was more that I was.
Speaker 1: Putting I was projecting that onto myself because I was
Speaker 1: so scared that the most important man in my life
Speaker 1: was not going to be there that I there was
Speaker 1: part of me that sort of shut down as I
Speaker 1: got older, and I think I definitely we've discussed this before,
Speaker 1: you guys, were I chose men that were not like
Speaker 1: my dad, that we're not that kind and that gracious
Speaker 1: and that great. I chose men that it wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: break my heart if they dumped me and left me,
Speaker 1: that I would survive and be okay and probably move
Speaker 1: on pretty quickly. There's only a few that mattered to me,
Speaker 1: and they know who they are, So you guys, but
Speaker 1: you know, having a father that was in and out hospitals,
Speaker 1: and I actually, at one point in time in my
Speaker 1: life believed that I could actually heal. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know what got into my brain, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I can heal. And I remember we were at the
Speaker 1: hospital and I said to my brother and to my mom,
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys need to, you know, go
Speaker 1: out of the room, the hospital room and let me
Speaker 1: be alone with dad. And my brother chuckled at me.
Speaker 1: When I was like, I think I can heal. He
Speaker 1: was like okay, And I, you know, obviously tried. I failed.
Speaker 1: I was not gifted with that gift. But it was
Speaker 1: funny because I thought my dad was kind of like asleep,
Speaker 1: and so I was talking to myself about like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, Shannon, like concentrate, close your eyes and put
Speaker 1: all of your energy through your hands, and you'll be
Speaker 1: able to heal. And at some point, like my eyes
Speaker 1: were closed, my hands were like hovering over my father,
Speaker 1: and I heard this chuckle. My dad had the best
Speaker 1: laugh in the world, and when he really found something funny,
Speaker 1: he would laugh so hard, but like no noise, just
Speaker 1: his entire face would wrinkle and tears would pour out
Speaker 1: of his face, and there was there would be like
Speaker 1: a little like tiny bit of noise. And I heard
Speaker 1: this noise and I opened my eyes and my dad
Speaker 1: was like doubled over basically from his hospital bed, laughing,
Speaker 1: hysterically crying, and was like, Oh, I love you, baby,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. It was it was a
Speaker 1: very special moment. Which really strange is that I was
Speaker 1: always present when something happened with my dad. If he
Speaker 1: had and I don't know, my dad must have had
Speaker 1: like ten strokes, eleven heart attacks, something like that. My
Speaker 1: mom were here, she could tell you, probably the exact number,
Speaker 1: but it was a lot. Quinn tubled bypass heart surgery,
Speaker 1: kidney failure. He was on dialysis. But I was always there.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter, like for some reason, it happened when
Speaker 1: and I was close by or in LA and I
Speaker 1: could go, you know, rush to the hospital and meet
Speaker 1: them there. And his final I guess it was a
Speaker 1: stroke that sent a blood clot in his brain and
Speaker 1: killed him. I was not there. I was in New York.
Speaker 1: I was in New York to do I was on
Speaker 1: a book tour and I was getting ready at the
Speaker 1: hotel to go do press and I got that phone call.
Speaker 1: He hadn't passed yet, but it was my mom and
Speaker 1: she was sobbing, and she was like, this is not good.
Speaker 1: And I left all my stuff in the hotel room,
Speaker 1: jumped in a cab, went.
Speaker 2: To the airport. I was hysterical.
Speaker 1: They didn't even want to let me on the plane,
Speaker 1: and you know, they did and I was in the
Speaker 1: very back and I was sobbing. People just kept looking
Speaker 1: at me, like what is wrong with this girl? And
Speaker 1: I got off the plane and my phone got serviced again,
Speaker 1: and my mom had kept calling me and told me
Speaker 1: that he had passed, which is really interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: I prided myself on always being there and him always
Speaker 1: knowing how much I loved him, and that he was,
Speaker 1: along with my mom, along with my brother, like my
Speaker 1: number one priority. But my dad was like my heart,
Speaker 1: you know, he he was just really special. And to
Speaker 1: get to the hospital and to realize that you don't
Speaker 1: get to, you know, look at them and say I
Speaker 1: love you and for them to hear you was devastating
Speaker 1: to me. And then I had to click into like
Speaker 1: a totally different gear. I had to click into the
Speaker 1: gear of the person who can get it all done
Speaker 1: and pull it together and be there for my brother
Speaker 1: be there for my mother, make funeral arrangements, pick out
Speaker 1: a coffin. Even though he was being cremated, we saw
Speaker 1: at a coffin. It was just I think it took
Speaker 1: me a while to really process. One of the first
Speaker 1: times that it started processing was after the funeral. After
Speaker 1: the memorial service, my best friend Chris said he had
Speaker 1: this beautiful ranch in the hills of Malibu, and he
Speaker 1: said to me, you know, I think you and your
Speaker 1: mom should go stay at the ranch.
Speaker 2: For a little bit. Get out of the house, get
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 1: You know, your normal environment where you're used to seeing
Speaker 1: your dad or your husband in the case of my mom,
Speaker 1: and just go, you know, connect with nature. And and
Speaker 1: we went there and he had had, you know, food
Speaker 1: taken to the house, like we literally had to do nothing.
Speaker 1: And I it was at night, and his property is
Speaker 1: on like Chumash land really and I definitely maybe it's
Speaker 1: because I'm a part Native American Indian. I definitely feel
Speaker 1: like energy there. And I went outside by myself and
Speaker 1: I said on the steps and this wind picked up
Speaker 1: lent my prefaces by saying, like, one of the things
Speaker 1: that was really hurting me was that I didn't my
Speaker 1: dad died. I did all of this stuff, funeral, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, but I felt like I felt nothing. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel connected. And I always thought that, like when
Speaker 1: he died, I would still feel very connected, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was like this giant space,
Speaker 1: empty space inside of me, and that was really devastating.
Speaker 1: But so I went outside on the steps and this
Speaker 1: wind kind of blew and I felt like this warmth
Speaker 1: come around me and I heard him say it's okay, baby,
Speaker 1: it's going to be okay.
Speaker 2: I love you, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my God, like finally, and that's when I
Speaker 1: started feeling the connection to my dad again, which I
Speaker 1: do all the time. I mean, I after that, it
Speaker 1: was like the floodgates opened, you you know. It was
Speaker 1: just sobbing and acceptance. And my mom really helped me
Speaker 1: with that acceptance of because I blamed myself for not
Speaker 1: being there, for putting work as a priority, even though
Speaker 1: I obviously didn't know my dad was, you know, going
Speaker 1: to die, I still blamed myself and my mom really
Speaker 1: helped me go through that, helped me realize that, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes people that really love you choose to pass away
Speaker 1: when you're not present, they want you to remember them
Speaker 1: in a totally different way. And I kind of recognize
Speaker 1: that with my dad now that I don't think he
Speaker 1: would have wanted me to see him like that, which
Speaker 1: is interesting also because there are moments, not many most
Speaker 1: of the time, I wish my dad was still with
Speaker 1: me almost ninety nine percent of the time, but there's
Speaker 1: like one percent where I think to myself, thank God
Speaker 1: he's not here, because it would devastate him that I'm
Speaker 1: so sick. It would you know, every time a protocol
Speaker 1: stops working, it would kill my dad. Every time you know,
Speaker 1: we had to see me getting an infusion or shots
Speaker 1: or you know, all of the crazy things that cancer
Speaker 1: patients go through. It would dostate my father. I'm sure
Speaker 1: of it. So sometimes I'm like, thank God, it's not here.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I, you know, wish she
Speaker 1: was because it's a totally different kind of warmth and love.
Speaker 1: I'm again super lucky because I have a mom that much.
Speaker 1: You know, later in life, we bonded in a very
Speaker 1: different way than my dad and I were bonded, And
Speaker 1: I think it's a bond that I needed, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a bond that continues to grow and adjust
Speaker 1: and evolve, and you know, and she's a fantastic mother.
Speaker 1: But again it's it's a totally different relationship. So Father's
Speaker 1: Day can sometimes be hard for me. It can be
Speaker 1: hard for you know, my mom, who has vowed that
Speaker 1: she'll never date and never marry, and selfishly in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when my father first passed, I was like, damn straight.
Speaker 1: And now so much time has passed and I look
Speaker 1: at my mom and I'm like, I don't want her
Speaker 1: to be lonely. I don't want her to be sad
Speaker 1: like people sometimes need, you know, companionship. Most of us
Speaker 1: need companionship. I don't need companionship. I have my dog
Speaker 1: who's a great companion, and I have like the best
Speaker 1: friends in the world, and I'm pretty happy alone.
Speaker 2: But you know, my mom had one love.
Speaker 1: Her entire life, which was my dad, and for a
Speaker 1: large majority of their marriage he was very ill and
Speaker 1: she had to take care of him. And I just wonder, like, yes,
Speaker 1: I take her on trips and I take her to
Speaker 1: places that she's never been, but it's not the same
Speaker 1: as going with a companion that loves you in a
Speaker 1: different way than your daughter loves you, or then your
Speaker 1: son loves you.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm past that.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm past that selfish stage where I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, in my head, I was like, yeah, damn straight,
Speaker 1: you know, honor my father, because now it's about honoring
Speaker 1: my mother as well, and the things that she deserves
Speaker 1: in life, and she deserves complete happiness and to not
Speaker 1: feel alone. Not that she feels alone. I spend an
Speaker 1: extraordinary amount of time with her. Sometimes we look at
Speaker 1: each other and she'll be like, hey, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go back to my house because I need a break
Speaker 1: from you, And I'm like, yeah, we're pretty funny together again.
Speaker 1: Going back to like, it's very different relationship then my dad.
Speaker 1: There was, you know, something very very very gentle about
Speaker 1: my relationship with my father, Whereas my mom and I
Speaker 1: argued a lot, and I think we still argue some
Speaker 1: not you know, it's like one percent compared to what
Speaker 1: we used to. But you know, it's that like challenging
Speaker 1: two women, strong women sort of challenging one another. Whereas
Speaker 1: my dad was super strong, but his entire goal in
Speaker 1: life was to make me strong. His whole thing was
Speaker 1: I don't want you to you know, just go get
Speaker 1: married and and that like, if that's what you want,
Speaker 1: good for you, But there are other options out there
Speaker 1: for women. And again this was you know, I was
Speaker 1: born in seventy one, that's right, people, I'm old, and
Speaker 1: so things weren't as progressive as they are now. Not
Speaker 1: that we're fully progressive, we certainly are not, but for
Speaker 1: him to be that man who was like, I want
Speaker 1: you to know that your gender means nothing, ginger means zero.
Speaker 1: Anybody can can reach a goal. Whether you're male, female, gay,
Speaker 1: transit doesn't matter, like you can reach that goal. And
Speaker 1: he was big on that with me, which you know
Speaker 1: is incredibly special growing up too, to have someone that
Speaker 1: just anytime I would come home from work and be like,
Speaker 1: oh god, you know like male producers and this one
Speaker 1: threatened me with like the freaking mob and you know,
Speaker 1: this one touched me inappropriately, and my dad would be like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't take that. Fight back, absolutely, fight back, report them,
Speaker 1: do whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He would come to set with me sometimes just to
Speaker 1: watch over me.
Speaker 2: So it's hard to miss that as much as I do,
Speaker 2: But I also feel.
Speaker 1: So lucky that I had him for as long as
Speaker 1: I had him In my life. It was forty something.
Speaker 1: I think when he passed away, that's a long time
Speaker 1: to have a father. I guess could definitely be longer,
Speaker 1: but that was the amount of time that I got
Speaker 1: and then God took him.
Speaker 2: And the one thing I sort of know, and that.
Speaker 1: Also relaxes me, is that I know I get to
Speaker 1: see him when I pass away, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: a cool thing. And I get to see him healthy
Speaker 1: and happy and you know, thriving in his environment with God,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. So that's, you know, my relationship
Speaker 1: with my father, which was great. Not to say that
Speaker 1: there weren't complications, because I think everybody has complications with
Speaker 1: their parents. It's just part of growing up. And and
Speaker 1: also my you know, because he was so sick and
Speaker 1: oh he had diabetes and high blood pressure and heart disease.
Speaker 1: I think that it impacted as he got older and sicker,
Speaker 1: it definitely impacted his mental health. And we all in
Speaker 1: the family, my brother and my mother and myself, we
Speaker 1: all had to learn to cope with that, which was
Speaker 1: not easy. So yeah, that's my relationship with my dad.
Speaker 2: Trying to think if like, you know.
Speaker 1: We we shared a love of cooking, so I love
Speaker 1: to cook, and my dad loved to cook, but he
Speaker 1: would make cooking like a very special experience. He would
Speaker 1: put on pavarati, he would open up a bottle of
Speaker 1: red wine, and I would stand on like a little,
Speaker 1: you know, step stool and help him cook, and he
Speaker 1: would break it all down for me. He was an
Speaker 1: amazing cook actually, and so cooking I always sort of
Speaker 1: romanticized cooking. I thought that it was just this beautiful
Speaker 1: experience that you did with someone that you loved, whether
Speaker 1: it be paternal love or whatever kind of love, and
Speaker 1: that it what cooking did, is when you were cooking
Speaker 1: for others. It was my friend Christy, who you guys
Speaker 1: have heard about. She owned Christie's Village Cafe in Malibu.
Speaker 1: She always says, my love language is food, and I
Speaker 1: guess that's kind of what my dad was teaching me,
Speaker 1: along with the fact that we loved to cook together
Speaker 1: and then you know, serve my brother and my mom.
Speaker 2: But his love language a lot of it. He hit
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 1: Different languages of love, but one of them was cooking.
Speaker 1: Was he would be so proud, like the dish turned
Speaker 1: out perfect, and oftentimes they were. So that was something
Speaker 1: that we did together. We also continued reading the newspaper
Speaker 1: up until he died. We always talked about world events.
Speaker 1: We always had sort of healthy debates, or we were
Speaker 1: in complete agreement, just depended on the subject. We were
Speaker 1: just connected and again incredibly similar that it was easy
Speaker 1: to have hobbies, to have things that we'd like to
Speaker 1: do together, and they could be really simple, like I said,
Speaker 1: just me, you know, going to my parents' house and
Speaker 1: sitting down with him and you're like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the latest, this is what's.
Speaker 2: Happening in the world. What do you think?
Speaker 1: And even our debates were like fun and lively. They
Speaker 1: didn't ever feel threatening, are bad. And what's funny is
Speaker 1: you know, you always have one parent that's lenient and
Speaker 1: you have one that's a disciplinarian. My poor mother she
Speaker 1: got the role of disciplinarian. And my dad was just
Speaker 1: he was like a teddy bear. He was a big
Speaker 1: teddy bear that would just wrap his arms around you.
Speaker 1: It was really funny. I can't One of my exes
Speaker 1: who was on the podcast, I think it was Rob,
Speaker 1: said that, you know my dad was this like man
Speaker 1: and very intimidating. But what's funny is that he was
Speaker 1: just a teddy bear. This was not someone that anybody
Speaker 1: needed to be scared of. I'll tell you guys a story.
Speaker 2: I was, I don't know young.
Speaker 1: We were living in palace thirties, and my father and
Speaker 1: mother did not believe in hitting at all. They believed
Speaker 1: in you could discipline a child without hitting them. But
Speaker 1: I had done something that was apparently quite bad, maybe
Speaker 1: like six, I don't know, and my dad said to me, okay,
Speaker 1: it's time for your first banking. I was like, really,
Speaker 1: little girl. He said, yes, you know, like this is bad.
Speaker 1: You need to learn that you can't do stuff like this.
Speaker 1: There's repercussions. And so I said, okay, Daddy, can I
Speaker 1: please go to my room and compose myself first. He
Speaker 1: looked at his watch and he said, yes, you have
Speaker 1: two minutes and you have to come back down. So
Speaker 1: I ran up to my room and I found, you know,
Speaker 1: softcover books, and I stuffed them down the back of
Speaker 1: my pants. Little did I know, because it was like six,
Speaker 1: that my butt was a perfect like rectangle. So I
Speaker 1: went back downstairs and I looked at my dad and
Speaker 1: I said, okay, Daddy, I'm ready for my punishment. You're
Speaker 1: right I deserve it. And I bent over his lap
Speaker 1: because I think we'd seen it on TV or something
Speaker 1: of a child being you know, not really spanked, but
Speaker 1: it was going to be spanked or whatever, and that's
Speaker 1: how they did it on TV or wherever we saw it.
Speaker 1: And so I bent over his knee, and you know,
Speaker 1: my butt underneath my chords. I remember I was wearing
Speaker 1: corduways was a rectangle. And my father started laughing hysterically again,
Speaker 1: tears pouring down his face. And I just remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think I got out of this, and I did.
Speaker 1: He was never going to spank me anyway. My dad
Speaker 1: did not have the capability of doing that at all.
Speaker 1: It was one of those threats of like, so that's
Speaker 1: how my dad was as a disciplinarian. You just had
Speaker 1: to stick a book down your pants, or you just
Speaker 1: had to make him laugh. But honestly, he he was
Speaker 1: never the disciplinarian my mother was. And my mom never
Speaker 1: raised a hand to us. She didn't believe in that either.
Speaker 1: And so just having a father like that, it's like
Speaker 1: you learn you have traits that you share. Yes, we
Speaker 1: both had tempers, for sure, I got I definitely got it.
Speaker 1: Temper from my father. But I also got from him
Speaker 1: the the ability of, even when I had a temper,
Speaker 1: to think things through and to display my temper in
Speaker 1: an intelligent way. It wasn't until I think towards the
Speaker 1: end of nine of two and zero that I went
Speaker 1: to a therapist and learned to count to like three,
Speaker 1: and of three didn't calm me down.
Speaker 2: I had to count to ten because.
Speaker 1: I just you know, my dad was quick, and I
Speaker 1: was quick like my dad, like we had a retort
Speaker 1: for everything. Somebody said something else and we were like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And I had to learn for my career,
Speaker 1: for the workplace that I couldn't have that quick a retort,
Speaker 1: especially being a woman that was not tolerated. The men
Speaker 1: did not like that. The men were like, you know,
Speaker 1: who does this bitch think she is?
Speaker 2: And that's right. Back then we were called bitch, which
Speaker 2: my dad.
Speaker 1: Did not like.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
Speaker 1: I came home and said something about, you know, a
Speaker 1: man on a set calling me a bitch. It was like,
Speaker 1: hide the keys. Hide the keys so Dad doesn't jump
Speaker 1: in a car and go get them at their house
Speaker 1: and sit them down and have a conversation with them.
Speaker 2: So I mean.
Speaker 1: Tempers, yes, but I think I also got from my
Speaker 1: father a large capacity to love, a large capacity to forgive,
Speaker 1: often to my own detriment, and I also got the
Speaker 1: ability to stand up for myself from him. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, he ingrained it in me. Him and Michael
Speaker 1: Landon basically ingrained in my brain that I was intelligent
Speaker 1: and that was going to get me in a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble, and that I should stick up from my health.
Speaker 1: And yes, I could have learned how to do it
Speaker 1: better when I was eighteen, but hey, eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to keep apologizing for stuff like that
Speaker 1: because life is too short, and it gets a little
Speaker 1: ridiculous after a while that people want to keep bringing
Speaker 1: up your past. I think those people who do that
Speaker 1: must be extremely bored in life.
Speaker 2: And I am not.
Speaker 1: So moving on, I kind of a lot of other traits.
Speaker 1: My mom would again be able to list them all.
Speaker 1: But I know I got his sense of humor. We
Speaker 1: both have a dark, dark, dark, dark sense of humor.
Speaker 1: We laugh at things that are completely inappropriate, and I'm
Speaker 1: the girl who and I don't mean it because I
Speaker 1: love everyone and I'll be there to help anyone, especially
Speaker 1: my friends. But I remember my hairdresser, un Charmed, Susannah Consinikis.
Speaker 1: She We were in I think Canada, doing a movie together,
Speaker 1: and we were trying to hustle across the street because
Speaker 1: the light had changed and still laugh it's horrible. I
Speaker 1: think it's not a reaction to being funny. I think
Speaker 1: it's a reaction to like pure panic. She fell in
Speaker 1: the middle of the crosswalk and I could not stop
Speaker 1: laughing and all and I was laughing, but I kept
Speaker 1: yelling at her, you have to get up, you have
Speaker 1: to get up, you have to get up, my dad.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's part of the darkness of humor. Again,
Speaker 1: I think that him and I just panicked when somebody
Speaker 1: got hurt or somebody might be like, it was just
Speaker 1: a panic moment. So I inherited that trait from him,
Speaker 1: which good bad. I don't know is one of those.
Speaker 1: And his thirst for learning, his thirst for accepting people,
Speaker 1: his thirst for you know, always seeing both sides.
Speaker 2: Of an argument and giving allowance to people.
Speaker 1: He was very much like, we are not all built
Speaker 1: the same, We're not all going to believe the same things.
Speaker 1: All that we need to do is practice kindness and tolerance.
Speaker 1: And respect the fact that somebody else might feel differently
Speaker 1: about a subject. I definitely inherited that from him. I
Speaker 1: think I'm very, very very open and accept everyone. But
Speaker 1: I know that people don't agree with me on certain things,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I accept the accept that they have
Speaker 1: a different opinion than me. That's you know, God gave
Speaker 1: us free will, Thank you God. So with free will,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna go down our own pass and our
Speaker 1: own system of beliefs. I can't, you know, convince anyone
Speaker 1: to believe the same thing that I do. And my God,
Speaker 1: what a boring world it would be if everybody believed
Speaker 1: what I believe. And my dad was all about that.
Speaker 1: He was also about like listen to that person because
Speaker 1: you might actually learn something. They might turn you on
Speaker 1: to something completely different. And can you guys tell that
Speaker 1: I just had like a fantastic dad growing up.
Speaker 2: I think he was really special.
Speaker 1: So you guys know how much I love my dad,
Speaker 1: how grateful I am for the time that I had
Speaker 1: with him. I could go on for hours and hours
Speaker 1: and hours about my father, just like I could about
Speaker 1: my mother. Just want to say that to all the
Speaker 1: dads out there, like that treat their kids really well
Speaker 1: and love them and guide them, and.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's appreciated because kids need that like I needed it.
Speaker 1: Your kids need it. And to all those stepfathers and
Speaker 1: you know, adopted dads, the uncles who treat, you know,
Speaker 1: their sister's kids as if they're their own link to
Speaker 1: all of you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for the bottom of my heart. You're doing a
Speaker 1: great job. Keep it up.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That was Father's Day. That was a little heavy, but fun.
Speaker 1: I liked revisiting my dad with all of you.
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I love you guys, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: hope that this episode warmed your hearts.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Let's be clear Wishanna Doherty. Bye,