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Speaker 1: Well, come into Northside Territory presented by Fox One Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory Networks. Cubs Podcast. I'm Sahadev Sharma with my partner

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mooney. We are your Cubs beat writers over at

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs lived to play another day,

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Speaker 1: another game at Wrigley. The fans get one more game.

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Speaker 1: At least, we'll see what happens. But it was a

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Speaker 1: nail bier. Yet again. I feel like every win for

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Speaker 1: them has been a nail bier this postseason. There's there

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Speaker 1: have been no easy victories. The first two losses to

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Speaker 1: the Brewers. Obviously the Brewers had some ease there, but

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Speaker 1: this one was not easy. I think Craig Council said

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Speaker 1: after the game, jameson Tyne gave him what he needed.

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Speaker 1: That was a minimum amount he needed. He's like, I

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Speaker 1: just just needed twelve outs. Kind of the way that

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Speaker 1: fourth inning went. He thought going into it, maybe I

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Speaker 1: can get a fifth out of him. It did not

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Speaker 1: go that way. They scored another run and then it

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Speaker 1: lined up to the bullpen as needed, and you know

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Speaker 1: they have these five arms that they're going to lean

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Speaker 1: on and wins. And the guys did enough. I think

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Speaker 1: the only mistake was Jake Bauer's home run off Andrew Kittridge.

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Speaker 1: Certainly tense moments. I think the Brewers had their opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I think you could say that about the Cubs to

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Speaker 1: try and pad the lead. They had a couple opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Neither team came up with the clutch hit except for

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Speaker 1: one big one, and that it all kind of happened

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Speaker 1: in the first inning.

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Speaker 2: And that first inning two had a only in Wrigley's

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Speaker 2: sort of moment there that miss missed pop up an

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Speaker 2: infield fly rule that was not applied in this particular case,

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Speaker 2: and with good reason. I thought ty One showed a

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Speaker 2: lot to not let that inning spiral out of control.

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Speaker 2: And that's really kind of who he is, right of

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Speaker 2: just an extremely dependable, reliable person and pitcher, extremely consistent,

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Speaker 2: and to keep it at that and to minimize the

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Speaker 2: damage was huge because otherwise, I mean, our stories would

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Speaker 2: have been written of you know, of like I think

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Speaker 2: our buddy Paul Sullivan dropped a cubby occurrence on the

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Speaker 2: situation in his story for this morning, and that's kind

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Speaker 2: of what it felt like, Oh, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: And for him to stabilize that moment and then also

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Speaker 2: like they needed a credible starting pitching performance, Like I

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Speaker 2: get it, bullpens are more important here and there's more

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Speaker 2: off days you can push guys. But they rode those

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Speaker 2: relievers really hard to win a wild card round, and

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Speaker 2: just what Boyd and Shoda gave them was nowhere close

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Speaker 2: to enough so for to organize the game that way

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Speaker 2: was big And we'll get into later can they do

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Speaker 2: it again, how they piece it together? But at least

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Speaker 2: the fans that really get get one more night of

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Speaker 2: playoff baseball, and that should never be taken for granted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, speaking of taken for granted, we probably

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Speaker 1: all take Jameison ty Own for granted. I don't. And look,

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Speaker 1: he I don't believe he's this elite pitcher. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: get enough swing and miss, he doesn't you know, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't get the you know, All Star Games. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to get cy Young votes. That's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: who he is. But he's very stable. He's you know,

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Speaker 1: I think back to last deadline twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: people kind of assume, like, why don't trade this guy,

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Speaker 1: and the way it was so flippantly thrown about, like

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Speaker 1: you just trade him at max value and then the

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Speaker 1: same thought, they're thinking they can compete in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five pitching. Like I think sometimes people just don't realize

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to find competent pitching you need.

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Speaker 1: There's all types of different pitching. There's the pitching you

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Speaker 1: use to get through one sixty two in the pitching

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Speaker 1: you use to win in the playoffs. And Jameson Town

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Speaker 1: rack up strikeouts, and I think you want guys that

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Speaker 1: miss bats, particularly in the playoffs. But there's something about

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Speaker 1: he probably could have gone deeper in a normal game.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this is not a normal game. And the relievers,

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Speaker 1: felt like it was about we talked to Craig Council

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Speaker 1: about momentum and after the second game, the momentum of that,

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Speaker 1: is so incredibly important in baseball and it all kind

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Speaker 1: inning where they were knocking Quinn Priester around. It's like

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Speaker 1: the opposite of what happened in Game one. You know,

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Speaker 1: he everyone knows he should have, maybe it's a different

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Speaker 1: feeling in a different game. If if Peko Armstrong strikes

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Speaker 1: it's a different game. And it's just such a big

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Speaker 1: Like that was a moment when when Carson Kelly struck out,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this, this is bad, Like you cannot

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Speaker 1: miss this opportunity. They're going to like this is how

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Speaker 1: situation for them because you can't miss those opportunities. And

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Speaker 1: it's like it would be very deflating because Carson Kelly

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Speaker 1: don't know how we made that catch. Like literally two

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Speaker 1: minutes later, the sun popped back out. It was like

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Speaker 1: That was an amazing catch. And just so many like

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Speaker 1: tiny moments, one thing shifts and everything feels different. But

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Speaker 1: right now, you know Dolphins did enough. They really could

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Speaker 1: have done more. And that's probably like where you point

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Speaker 1: to and say, like this is how, this is how

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Speaker 1: the team should be winning, because the pitching is kind

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Speaker 1: of like piece it together and they're not doing it

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Speaker 1: enough regularly to really put distance between them. But maybe

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Speaker 1: that's just playoff baseball. Find a way to win. It's

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be high scoring. Quick Console did say this,

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Speaker 1: He's like we're giving up too many runs. You know,

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Speaker 1: playoff baseball is supposed to be low scoring, so I

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Speaker 1: guess they did what needed to be done to win.

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Speaker 1: So it's probably wrong of me to nitpick too much there.

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Speaker 3: Your the one is supposed to be optimistic about.

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Speaker 1: The offense, I know, and they're not delivering, so they're

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. I mean, I'll cover us.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, honestly if you were there at this point,

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Speaker 2: so how if we were talking to a Cups person

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Speaker 2: and the field was pretty empty at this point. And

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Speaker 2: there were two sort of pre game takeaways. Of one,

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Speaker 2: the wind blowing in will be good for Jamison ty

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Speaker 3: That proved true.

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Speaker 2: And the other point was they liked that matchup against

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Speaker 2: Quinn Priester, a sinkerballer on the mound, I could give

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Speaker 2: them a chance to force the action a bit, put

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Speaker 2: some pressure on him. Obviously not the same devastating swinging

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Speaker 2: the time, and those things certainly played out. Credit to

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Speaker 2: the Cubs for showing up and pushing this to another game.

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Speaker 2: I think we can flip the show after the break

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Speaker 2: here and sort of look ahead and say, like did

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Speaker 2: they find something? Is this sustainable or is Milwaukee still

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Speaker 2: very much have the upper hand here?

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back to Northside Territory presented by Fox one Patrick.

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Speaker 1: They have Game four tonight at Wrigley eight oh eight.

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Speaker 1: His first pitch, Thank you Phillies for for making it

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Speaker 1: so late for us. I'm sure as we record, Cubs

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Speaker 1: fans are stressing out and Craig Council is already thinking

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Speaker 1: through how do we get through this game? Pitching wise,

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Speaker 1: there hasn't been at this point in time, there hasn't

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Speaker 1: been an announcement of who's starting. I think it's Matthew

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Speaker 1: Boyd is going to factor into this game somehow, probably

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Speaker 1: it's it's all in all likely. This is four days

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Speaker 1: rest for Matthew Boyd. I know nowadays managers and organizations

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Speaker 1: and I think it's incredibly important that Matthew Boyd looks

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Speaker 1: not what we saw last start. At least the version

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Speaker 1: is really hoping for.

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Speaker 2: Boyd Wednesday night was talking as if he's going to

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Speaker 2: pitch in Game four with you, I would assume that's

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Speaker 2: in a starting capacity, But at this point of the season,

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Speaker 2: after everything we've seen in these playoffs, I guess you never.

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Speaker 3: Know, right, But.

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Speaker 2: You were alluding to this earlier, like it's the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: so you don't get graded on style points. But how

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Speaker 2: they won Game three, I think, just and how they

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Speaker 2: like how they win the next two. I think what

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Speaker 2: the Cub's been really good at this year just kind

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Speaker 2: of managing a series. Like there's not a team that

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Speaker 2: went on super long winning streaks. They're not a team

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Speaker 2: that would just go into other cities and sweep teams.

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Speaker 3: Left and right.

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Speaker 2: It was more of this kind of methodical, conservative, how

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Speaker 2: And no doubt it worked. But if Boyd is off,

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Speaker 2: if he's not are it could be a long night.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the point where you know, I've come

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