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Speaker 1: The John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Up and Frank found out.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved you.

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Speaker 1: Are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Good Monday to you.

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Speaker 5: I just heard Frank Mere's name Kenny in the Anak

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Speaker 5: and Florian podcast Open and it dawned on me after

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Speaker 5: seeing his name mentioned as a possible future Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Now that we have closed the door on the class

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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty five, I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 5: our listenership might not even know who Frank Meir is.

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Speaker 5: I do think the Hall of Fame comes calling for

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Speaker 5: him one day, right.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? You know?

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Speaker 4: Frankmere an absolute legend, great dude, one of the best

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Speaker 4: submission artists you will ever see in heavyweight history. Turned

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Speaker 4: into a fantastic striker as well. Yeah, man, and that

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Speaker 4: fight what an absolute classic dude.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, Frank Mere has done a ton of different things,

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Speaker 5: and I just always think it's interesting in terms of

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Speaker 5: when a man or woman gets into the UFC Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame. I mean, Demitrius Johnson and Domina Cruz. There's

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Speaker 5: so many different guys that are going to get inducted,

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Speaker 5: I would think in the next few years. But I

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Speaker 5: do wonder for a guy like frankmir now that Vitor

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Speaker 5: Belfort is in or is about to be in, when

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Speaker 5: they will come calling for Frank Meir.

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Speaker 3: Good to have everybody with us today.

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Speaker 5: A few technical difficulties, so we'll see how it's going.

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing a little bit of a muzzle, but hopefully

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Speaker 5: we can nip that in the butt. But thank y'all

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Speaker 5: for being with us. Good Monday to you. It's May nineteenth,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. A lot of birthdays around the anikin

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Speaker 5: Floring podcast. We had Cody Merrow on May fifteenth. We

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Speaker 5: got Ken Flow coming up. May twenty six, we got

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Speaker 5: Bruce Buffer, who's not really part of the Antikinploring podcast family.

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Speaker 5: I think Ray Longo May twenty first. So I can't

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Speaker 5: keep track of all of it, but great to have

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Speaker 5: everybody with us today. It is the five hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty first iteration of the antik Imploring Podcast, presented by DraftKings. DraftKings,

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Speaker 5: the crown is yours, So my goodness, Ken Flow so

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Speaker 5: much has happened since we were last on the air,

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Speaker 5: fight announcement after fight announcement, any different direction, any number

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Speaker 5: of different directions in which we can go.

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Speaker 3: But let me begin.

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Speaker 5: I guess with the fact that, as I was going

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Speaker 5: through some betting odds today, right, UFC three seventeen, Topunia

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Speaker 5: So not only does the upcoming UFC featherweight champion get

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Speaker 5: Ilya Topoti is a massive betting favorite. And I guess

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Speaker 5: since he's your favorite fighter, maybe you're not surprised, motherfuckers,

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Speaker 5: But that's the big news. Topotia, the oli Era, and

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Speaker 5: seemingly Islami Kashev will be vacating the lightweight trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, allow me to rephrase a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's my favorite fighter, but I do

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Speaker 4: think he probably is the best fighter in the UFC.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny, ever since you mentioned it

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Speaker 4: When we were discussing Toporia going up to one point

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Speaker 3: I thought this was the fight that was destined to happen.

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Speaker 3: And here we are.

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Speaker 4: Charles Olivera with all of his skills, submissions, striking, his

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Speaker 3: It is for belt.

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Speaker 4: Now Islamahashev has vacated or will be vacating it. And uh,

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Speaker 4: I mean this is just a promoter's dream, but a

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Speaker 5: You do wonder if Islami Kashev desired to defend belts

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Speaker 5: And if Islamikashev indeed wants to sort of turn the

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Speaker 5: Congratulations to Islamikashev on what you can argue is the

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, The fight game is so.

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Speaker 5: Interesting that I really think only Islam knows exactly how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious as to whether the weight cut was.

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Speaker 4: Too much or whether he just wanted another challenge and

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Speaker 3: So fascinating stuff. Perhaps he will be back.

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Speaker 4: At lightweight and we will see that fight eventually between

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have the Islami Kashev Jack Della Madelena

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Speaker 5: To my knowledge, there isn't a pay per view on

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Speaker 5: Kem Flow care to reckon a guess or venturrey guess

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Speaker 5: be between Illia Toporitia and Charles Oliver when they do

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Speaker 5: On Johnny Avello's DraftKings sports book, Charles Oliver is plus

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Speaker 5: A far easier cut than Charles Olivera, no matter how

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Speaker 5: Olivera right, Ilia Topoti is a near Florida one betting favorite,

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Speaker 4: So it's a lotch on it, and perhaps I'll do

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Speaker 4: my best to kind of justify it just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think that Tolpouria is very very good in the

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Speaker 4: This is Charles Olivere. So gonna be an amazing fight.

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Speaker 5: Important distinction that and it is going to be interesting

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Speaker 5: the first time that islamikashev has heard from outside the

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Speaker 5: it goes. Illia Toutia, Charles Oliver, that is your headliner.

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Speaker 5: UFC three seventeen June twenty eighth, Tamobile Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Speaker 5: All right, lot to get to over the next forty

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Speaker 5: But let us get into all that happened over the

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Speaker 5: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented

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Speaker 5: So you know, I don't think it's a crazy request

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Speaker 4: It's possible, but you know Torporia and Gaichie that that's

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Speaker 4: straight meritocracy. Charles Olivera has the higher ranking than justin Gaichie.

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Speaker 5: What an unbelievable event, By the way, I want to

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Speaker 3: Because of the logjam of names.

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Speaker 5: But my goodness, Kenny, what he did at Gilbert Burns

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Speaker 3: No question.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you talked about Gilbert Burns's physical appearance, because

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Speaker 3: He looked great.

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Speaker 4: But Morales is just too much man, too much skill,

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Speaker 3: And birds hung in there when he was in trouble.

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Speaker 4: He tried to fight through some of those tough spots

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Speaker 4: But yeah, man, he looked really really good. Burns had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to make it look easy against any

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Speaker 3: You know, you feel like he'd put up a fight.

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Speaker 5: And when you start to think about Morales fighting, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he knows how to pick his spots, he knows

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Speaker 3: He's an excellent striker.

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Speaker 4: Even if you take him down like Burns did briefly,

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Speaker 3: I could easily see him as a champion in that division.

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Speaker 4: I know it's stacked right now for sure, but I

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Speaker 5: So in terms of how you spin it forward, for

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Speaker 5: Let's just take Ian Maschado Gary. I mean, you could

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Speaker 3: But I think it's if you're Michael Morales.

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Speaker 5: You know he hasn't been the most active guy, so

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Speaker 5: So you're Gilbert Burns right now, thirty seven, thirty eight

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably what's gonna need to happen if

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Speaker 3: So Gilbert, you know, you got some big decisions to make.

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Speaker 5: Man could be a short notice opportunity potentially for a

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Speaker 5: exciting times for Michael Morales and certainly with respect to

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Speaker 3: His CODs right.

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Speaker 5: All right, a few other things I'd like to get to,

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night recap. Ray Longo coming up. Oh, it

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Speaker 5: looks like Ray Longo's here right now. We will not

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Speaker 5: Longo minute.

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Speaker 1: Now, time for the Ray Longo Minutes. A hole in

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Speaker 1: this sub The Ray Longo Minute, The John Annik and

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Speaker 3: What time did we set the alarm for today?

436
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, we set the alarm for ten.

437
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: Because I still hear a little gravel.

438
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: A little gravel.

439
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so good to see it right on the screws,

440
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 5: eleven thirty am Eastern.

441
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Speaker 3: How was your weekend?

442
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Very nice? Very nice? That was yours?

443
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: I was fine, It was fine. We have my son's

444
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: birthday party.

445
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, how old he will be?

446
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: Seven?

447
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: Wow?

448
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy birthday, Hunter.

449
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy birthday.

450
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: Moving. We're moving.

451
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 5: So we got the birthday party in but I was

452
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 5: trying to Uh, we did it at Twisters Gymnastics and

453
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 5: I was trying to use like a vault to jump

454
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 5: on a box and I smashed my thumb. So yeah,

455
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 5: I mean every time I try to do something athletic,

456
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 5: I said, I just stick to waits and run it.

457
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: That gets worse and worse. Job. Yeah, yeah, you get

458
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 2: you know, because your brain unfortunately sees you as a

459
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: twenty year old until you do something like that and

460
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: then it's a disaster.

461
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

462
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 5: So I was at the Patrick Mahomes golf tournament this weekend, right,

463
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 5: and I had the opportunity to em see the pairings

464
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 5: party Jim Gray had done at the year before. They

465
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 5: called my number this year very exciting, and then stood

466
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Speaker 5: from the NFL Network.

467
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: MC the Gala. Right.

468
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 5: So the Gallows Thursday night and then Friday is the

469
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 5: tournaments and then they have the awards thing right.

470
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Speaker 3: After the tournament.

471
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: Right.

472
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: So I'm talking to my group from Corps Light right.

473
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Speaker 5: Unfortunately for them, I'm the celebrity in their group, right,

474
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Speaker 5: And I was talking to them about the Galla the

475
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 5: night before and I was like, yeah, I had a

476
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 5: Gin and Tonic, you know, or gin and soda before

477
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: the Gallous, So thank goodness, they didn't call for the

478
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 5: backup quarterback, and I had to go up there a

479
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 5: little bit uh buckled at the galla. Right, So an

480
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 5: hour later, I'm on the golf course drinking fucking transfusions.

481
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm like drunk at eleven message like.

482
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 5: Hey Steve Weish banged in, he left. Can you m

483
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 5: see the awards thing?

484
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh man?

485
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 5: Oh you know, I almost like willed it into existence.

486
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 5: You know, they're calling wow, yeah, the replacement player, the

487
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 5: fucking backup quarterback. So anyway, I get up there, I'm fine, Right,

488
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 5: I have my third transfusion with me at the podium,

489
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 5: go back to my hotel room, and I fucking throw

490
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Speaker 5: up every.

491
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Speaker 3: John Adak is the Dan Gay of broadcasting.

492
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, he is a true He is a true professional. Yeah,

493
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: he is a true professionalist. Guy.

494
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 3: Did you hear though that I got I went back

495
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 3: to my hotel That's true. Yeah, that's not important.

496
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: No, sou were the good stuff, John, when I concentrating

497
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: on the bad stuff.

498
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: Did you was it one of those things where you

499
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: felt better after you you you threw up, or were

500
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: you just like still feeling like yeah, no, I found

501
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: like a million dollars after Yeah, eat exhaustion or what

502
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: it was.

503
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Speaker 5: But anyway about that, So, yeah, that was my weekend,

504
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 5: pretty good, Raymond. Uh so, did you have any locals fighting?

505
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 5: You know, he got some big things coming up on

506
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: May twenty fourth this coming weekend. But anybody locally last

507
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 5: weekend or.

508
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: No, nobody this last weekend June. This weekend starts a

509
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 2: pretty big so.

510
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: And you this is your birthday week as well, right?

511
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

512
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, by May twenty first, this Wednesday.

513
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: That's the twentieth.

514
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: Your birthday's tomorrow, Yeah, happy birthday.

515
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm not a big birthday guy at this okay man.

516
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you did tell us you'd rather people give

517
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: you money than gifts though, if anybody out there wants

518
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: to get up, ray yes, So, any plans for the

519
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 5: birthday tomorrow before we get to some more serious items.

520
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: Now, I went out Sunday night, Saturday night with.

521
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: My family, nice, just the four year It was a

522
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: little bit more exciting.

523
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 2: For Friday night. I'm sorry, just the four of us.

524
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you think I modicum of a shit if it

525
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: was Friday or Saturday.

526
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 2: Well then I thought you were going to say then

527
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: you didn't watch the fight, so I think, oh, oh yeah,

528
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: all right, trying to beat the objective before it happens.

529
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Oh, I said, shame on

530
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 5: me for having all these conversations about the welterweight division

531
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 5: over the last two months and not maybe once mentioning

532
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: the name Michael Morales. You know, he might be as

533
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 5: good as any one of these guys. What'd you make

534
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 5: of the young Ecuadorian and the win over Gilbert Burns?

535
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: Raymond passed his first test, get in to where he

536
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: wants to go, very aggressive, very accurate, economical. You know, Gilbert,

537
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: you know, might be in you know, obviously he's probably

538
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 2: at the tail end of his career, so perfect timing

539
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: for Morales. I think. Also, he gets a big name

540
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: on his resume and he gets to work through, you know,

541
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: his growing process, so he looks Look, I think even

542
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: right now, him and Jack Della Balolena would probably make

543
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: for a nice fight. They look like they match up well,

544
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: and you know, Jack has the experience. I think it

545
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: would show in the fight. But I think that would

546
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: be a fun fight too.

547
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: It's just timing, is everything right, And you can sort

548
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: of attest to this right. You move down to featherweight

549
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: and you sort of knew because of your name value

550
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: and your shing ability, whatever else, and where the feather

551
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 5: was at. If you beat Diego noon As at that

552
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: point in time, you're probably getting a shot against Jose out.

553
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 5: You know, I like Michael Morales, right Ray long Go

554
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 5: sitting here telling our audience that Jack Della Madelena, who

555
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 5: looked like a fucking world beater nine days ago, that

556
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: Morales is ready right now, and I don't disagree, Like.

557
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not saying he's ready. I don't know if

558
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: that would be the prudent thing to do, but it

559
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: would make for a good fight, I think, even at

560
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: this stage. That's all. That's all I was saying. Jack.

561
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: I got a lot of respect for Joe, No disrespect

562
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: him in that way, but I just think they match up.

563
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: They look like they like to do similar things, and

564
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: that always makes for a great fight.

565
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 5: No, I'm not trying to at all put words in

567
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: your mouth as far as that is concerned. I think

568
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 5: Kenny and I are just we feel like Morales is

569
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: sort of ready for prime time. But that prime time fight,

570
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 5: you know, having now passed his first test, might not

571
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 5: necessary materialized. And you know, I just think it's gonna

572
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: be hard for him to get fights.

573
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: So and John, he looked like a huge well the

574
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: way too. He looked way bigger than Burns in that fight. Ye, yeah,

575
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: that you was, you know. So he's gonna fit in

576
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: good in that division, I think.

577
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: And I would say, I would say his first test

578
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: really was Neil Magni, right, and then he walked to

579
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: Neil Magni and then you know, Gilbert Burns, former title contender,

580
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 4: walked through him. Yeah, he's he's ready for even bigger

581
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: names now, man, yep.

582
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 5: So so many big fight announcements have happened since we

583
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 5: were last on the air, Ray, I would love to

584
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: get your thoughts on some of these items now. As

585
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 5: I said off the top of the show, I happened

586
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: to spend a couple of days with Justin Gaetgee this week,

587
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: and certainly he was not thrilled that they called Charles

588
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 5: Olivera's number instead of his to fight Illiot Tolporitia. But

589
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 5: what do you make of that fight at UFC three seventeen,

590
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 5: when when to Portia and Charles Olivera fight for the

591
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: vacant lightweight championship.

592
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: I believe to Pouria wins that fight and I believe

593
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna probably knock him out. That's the way to

594
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: see that fight going. Yeah, well, you know what it is.

595
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: I think Charles, you know, he's a little chinny, but

596
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: he always manages to come back and you know, find

597
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: a way to win. But this kid's twenty seven years old.

598
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: He gets you in trouble. He's not letting you off

599
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: the hook. His wrestling as good as jiu jitsu's, you know,

600
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: gonna be good enough for what he's gonna do. I believe, Uh,

601
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: he's just a different animal. You know, he's like he's

602
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: squared away everywhere, he's confident. He hits like a freight train.

603
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Will the power? Will it transfer over to one fifty five?

604
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: You know Charles also fought at forty five, so uh,

605
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: you know he's probably in between or at the end

606
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: of the day. Uh. So I just think the power

607
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: and he's this guy, you know, he's on a tear

608
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: and look at the guys he's beaten. So I think

609
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: Charles is in trouble in this fight.

610
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

611
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: So that that was great announcement. Another great announcement was

612
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: Drick is duplus Se taken on Hamza Chumai of So

613
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on that matchup?

614
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: Man? I think, look, I bet against drick Is so

615
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: many times I'm not doing it again. I love Hams.

616
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: I think he's a great fighter, but I think Dricks

617
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 2: weathers the first two rounds and then he just starts

618
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: to break him down where on him. I think it's

619
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: going to be a grinding, ugly fight. Uh, but I

620
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: think Rickis is going to get the job done.

621
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: So so basically, yeah, sorry, I was gonna I was

622
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: gonna say, John, So you think that if he survives

623
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: the early on slot he'll be fine?

624
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's what Hams ads are one million,

625
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: the most dangerous he's got. You know he's gonna come

626
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: un Let's see. You know this is is this his

627
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: first five round? Hamsa? Do we know?

628
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 5: I know that Gilbert Burns fight was three Ah, he

629
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: was scheduled. Well no, the Whitaker fight happened. It took

630
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: two seconds. But yeah, I don't think he hasn't gone

631
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes.

632
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: But right right, I'm just saying, I mean, unless he's

633
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: going to alter his game plan and you know, try

634
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: to conserve energy for a five round, but he's normally

635
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: coming out guns blazing, uh, and I think he's got

636
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: a you know, a big mountain in front of him,

637
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: so we'll say that I'm excited for that fight though.

638
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a great fight. But

639
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot of moving parts in there that you know,

640
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: could go either way. But I think I think is

641
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Dricis gets the job done just

642
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: by you know, being able to absorb what Hamza is

643
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: going to give him and then he comes back from it.

644
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you guys saw and sorry

645
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: to interrupt kent flow, but Fjordini Mobov has already been

646
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: tabbed as the backup.

647
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: For that fight.

648
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

649
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: Is dupless? He's like, oh, I guess I'm fighting as Ordine.

650
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't think is going to make it new Camp.

651
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, there are plenty of title fights that

652
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: happened without the mere presence of a backup, right Like

653
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: Muhammad Della Mattelena was gonna happen, right, Jack was gonna

654
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: fight Sick Right Like with respect to armand Saragian in

655
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: his back, Jack Dela Madelena would have fought. I bet

656
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: with that, you know what I mean? And I hope

657
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 5: that doesn't get me in trouble, right, So IAmA Shadougary

658
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: though to try to do right by him for stepping

659
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: up against Carlos protests right two weeks later for you know,

660
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: fifty seventy five grand whatever he weighs in as the backup.

661
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: But there are a lot of these fights that don't

662
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: even have a backup, or you have a backup like

663
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: Vicente luk Air Anthony Smith, or they don't make waight.

664
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of different things that can

665
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: happen as far as that is concerned. But Hamza, in

666
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: terms of his reliability, I think hasn't led the league,

667
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 5: so they immediately have a backup.

668
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: And I thought it was pretty funny that the champion

669
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I should prepare for.

670
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 5: So what do you think the betting line is for

671
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: that fight? Ray Chimaia Ndricus Duplessie? Who do you think

672
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 5: is the betting favorite? And I only ask you that

673
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: because you said I'm not betting against Dricus anymore?

674
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: So a favorite?

675
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: Now, finally I'm gonna say Dricus is the face fight.

676
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, Chimaya two to one, two to one,

677
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: hamzat chimaiyav minus one ninety eight.

678
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: Drinkings duplus is plus one sixty four.

679
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

680
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: All right, no line as yet on Nosordine Imovov.

681
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

682
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Is interesting that Chimayav was the two to one favorite.

683
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would have thought that would be more

684
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: like a pick of them a slight favorite. Wow. Really

685
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: all right?

686
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: A few other things I would like to get to

687
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: with Raymond Longo if I could. How you doing today

688
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: in terms of the Ray Longo manute, like you're looking

689
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: forward to getting this over with and getting on with

690
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: the rest of your day.

691
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm goody, okay, all right.

692
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: So John Jones.

693
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: Is in Thailand I believe, or maybe he's in Russia now.

694
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: He was with Hosbitala wherever he is, right, he was

695
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: asked about getting stripped of his undisputed championship, and I'd

696
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 5: like to get both of your thoughts on this if

697
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 5: I could so, John Jones essentially said, upon being probed

698
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: about having his heavyweight championships strip like, perhaps you're confusing

699
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: me with a guy who gives a shit about something

700
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: like that and then he's dead, which is the more

701
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: newsworthy item. You know, I've told the UFC my plans.

702
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 5: I'm not up to me as to when they share

703
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: that with all of you, right, so who knows if

704
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: John has said to them, I'll run it back, I'll

705
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: fight again a year from the Stepe fight in November

706
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: of Madison Square, gardener if I want my retirement fight

707
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: to be in December in Las Vegas, but ray, I mean,

708
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong. But for John Jones is

709
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: about the money, and I would imagine he's going to

710
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: get a guaranteed rate regardless of pay per viewpoints. So

711
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: whether Tom Aspinall has the red corner and the undisputed

712
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: title or not, John Jones doesn't really seem to care,

713
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 5: nor should he given his legacy, right.

714
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Yeah, I don't think he gives

715
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: a shit about that. That's interesting, but they should just

716
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: strip him with the title. I mean, these guys, you know,

717
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: everybody's waiting for the fight, but it's interesting, you see,

718
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: it seems I don't know if it's correct, but it

719
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: seems like the UFC, for some I don't know, they

720
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: give him a short leash. I think they feel like,

721
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: you know, they've been pa you know, maybe they've been

722
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: powered these people, but it's like it seems like Islam's

723
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: dictating what he's gonna do. John Jones is dictating what

724
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna do. It seems a little weird, you know,

725
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: but it just seems like that's the landscape. So yeah,

726
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: strip him of the title and he doesn't care if

727
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: he fights as a challenger or whatever. He's getting his

728
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: guaranteed money. I think Jones is right in that respect, though.

729
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 5: Here's the quote from John Jones Kenny, y'all barking up

730
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: the wrong tree. I told you have seen my plans

731
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 5: a long time ago. I have no clue why they

732
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: haven't shared them with you guys yet. Ask to outline

733
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 5: his plan YadA YadA, to continue to monetize on this

734
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: amazing brand that I've created.

735
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a thing.

736
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: Like he's gonna make so much money acting and showing

737
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: up to do reality shows opposite Na Diez and everything else. Kenny,

738
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: what do you make of all the John Jones noise?

739
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: And uh, what do you think is the result of

740
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 5: all this?

741
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: I think that John very much cares about his own

742
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: legacy and he is going to do whatever it takes

743
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: for him to have the best result and best situation

744
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: possible for him. You know, it's in the best business

745
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: interest of the UFC for them to push on with

746
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: this fight for Aspinall and make it the best conditions

747
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: for Tom Aspinall. Tom Aspinall is the future of the sport,

748
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: and they want to build the future of the sport

749
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: and get that going as quickly as possible. And if

750
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: they need to run over John Jones in order to

751
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: do it, that's what they're going to try to do.

752
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: John Jones is aware of it. He's not playing the game,

753
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: and he's going to delay and get the optimal situation

754
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: for himself.

755
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: That's that's just the way it is, right.

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: I think he's fully aware of this new lion coming

757
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: and take his territory, and you know, he's he's going

758
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: to put everything in his favor as much as possible.

759
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think we'll get this fight eventually. I

760
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: just think it's going to be a little bit more

761
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: down the line. And you know, I think John has

762
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 4: a lot going on, but I also think he wants

763
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: to make sure he is absolutely prepared. He does not

764
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: make any decisions in regards to fights. You know that

765
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: casually I should say.

766
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, really really well, I really will put Yeah, I

767
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: don't know he did brand himself. He does deserve that right.

768
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: But he's also saying the UFC knows exactly what he

769
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: said and when he was going to fight, and obviously

770
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: we're not privy to that. So we're sitting here, you know,

771
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: pontificate and then playing you know, Monday Morning Quarterback. We

772
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, they already know what the deal is.

773
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: So it is what it is. And yeah, you know,

774
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of his, but he has

775
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: earned the right to put the odds in his favor,

776
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: I guess. But it's not helping the promotion or the

777
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: fans or anything else.

778
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: Ray and thank you for filling in the blank. And

779
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of the rub there is that.

780
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure John Jones said that he wants to fight

781
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: at a much later date than what the UFC wants.

782
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: The UFC is.

783
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: Still trying to make that happen, see if they could

784
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: sweeten the deal, And it's probably a message they don't

785
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 4: really want to deliver the fans because they don't want

786
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: to strip John Jones, but at the same time they

787
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: want to get something going. And maybe for Tom Aspitaal

788
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: he maybe he doesn't want to take a fight in

789
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: the meantime, I don't know.

790
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: So it's a tricky situation.

791
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you could tell. I think by some

792
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: of the reactions of As He's already feels like he's

793
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: getting shited on, right, I mean he does not. He

794
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: doesn't think it's fair whatever's going on.

795
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: So here's the problem.

796
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom Aspinall defended his interim heavyweight championship almost a

797
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 5: fucking year ago, right, So certainly it's not ideal for

798
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: the combat sports leader to have their heavyweight championship not

799
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: on the line.

800
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: Right.

801
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: There was an extended delay for step A and John,

802
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: and as they pursue a new television contract, there are

803
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: no heavyweight championship fights on the horizon. But more annoying

804
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 5: and frustrating than all of that, I would think for promoter,

805
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: for Aspinall, for the fans, Tom had to defend the

806
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: interim belt, the silver medal, almost a fucking year ago.

807
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: So to have Tom wait till November December right now

808
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: is insane to lose another eighteen months of Aspinall's prime.

809
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm surprised if something happens in terms of

810
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: a strip or a vacation.

811
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, that's a really good point. This kid's you know,

812
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: he's still got youth on his side, and it just

813
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: tick tick tick tick. It's just getting you know, yeah,

814
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: wait the other and you know the other guy's doing

815
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: it on purpose. It's it's a it's a mind game.

816
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: Uh So I think the UFC has to step in

817
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: and make a decision. Yeah, you know, there i'd be

818
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: they're always thinking two or three steps ahead with the

819
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: marketing and name value and all that stuff. But you know,

820
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: this is where you get in trouble. I think a

821
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: little bit.

822
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: This is a tricky one though, because I know you

823
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: sort of said it's sort of weird guys are calling

824
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: the shots like John Jones and Islam. But I think

825
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: we do have to treat it as a case by

826
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: case basis. And John Jones has status as the consents.

827
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: Sorry people don't like when I use that word, but

828
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: as one of the greatest mixed martial arts athletes of

829
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: all time. So he has established so much goodwill, even

830
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: though there have been some missteps that he can almost

831
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 5: call his shop. But for Islam, Ray like, can't you

832
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 5: acknowledge that for the competitor within ISLAMI Kasha that two

833
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: of his title defenses at lightweight already came against a

834
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: blown up featherweight. Like, I don't think Islam is hard

835
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: to deal with or trying to like command his own shop.

836
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: But they're telling him for the third time in four

837
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 5: defenses they wanted to featherweight.

838
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: You know, I go with that. You put it down.

839
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: I don't think the rematch would fall. That was tough, man, Yeah,

840
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with you.

841
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 5: I'm not so like, So, how do you feel about

842
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: Islamikasha versus Jack Dela Matt Atlanta?

843
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean the fight I really wanted to see

844
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: was Islam against the Poria.

845
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: Right, right?

846
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: Because uh, yeah, you're right, this this is tricky. I

847
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: don't know, because I mean he did give you know,

848
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: it would be nice, like somebody's gonna give Islam is Islam. Sorry,

849
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Islam is a chance to become a double champ. Maybe

850
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: it should be reciprocated to Ilia, But you're right, he

851
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: already did it with Vulk, and uh that's not making

852
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: them look any better when you beat a guy from

853
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: a younger division. Yeah, it's it's tricky. I'll go I'll

854
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: go either way on that. I'm I'm not dead set

855
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: and anything. It's just it just appears that maybe because

856
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: of the fights, like the Vulk fights, that it appears

857
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: at Islam's calling the shots. But I think they might

858
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: have gotten themselves in some trouble by doing two of

859
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: those fights.

860
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: Now, all right, well we'll see how it all plays out.

861
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 5: Care to venture a guest, Raymond Asta, who's favored between

862
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: Tom Aspinall and John Jones before we move on?

863
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's gotta be clu. I'm gonna go with Aspinall.

864
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, Aspinall's minus one thirty and Daniel Cormier and I

865
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: did talk about this a little bit, right because John

866
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 5: Jones is plus one, and he figures to be at

867
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 5: the height of motivation, figures to have maybe less body

868
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 5: fat than he had against Deepe perhaps not right. This

869
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: will be his third heavyweight appearance, right, so I think

870
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: that's a good thing in terms of Kenny is smirking

871
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: but also a little bit frozen. But Kenny, I don't

872
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 5: think you could blame a sports better who has made

873
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: a lot of money over the course of John Jones's

874
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: career betting on John who would take a long, hard

875
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 5: look at John Jones at plus money for the first

876
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 5: time since maybe he fought Andre goosmoo at UFC eighty seven.

877
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: Right, And that's the thing.

878
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: I mean, that is going to be a juicy proposition

879
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: for a lot of people out there, who are the

880
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: whales out there to get John Jones as an underdog.

881
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, you.

882
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: Look, traditionally at championship fights, the younger guy usually is

883
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: the favorite for a reason. But John Jones isn't just

884
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: another dude.

885
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, we have about five more minutes with

886
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: Ray Longo.

887
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: Ray.

888
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 5: First, I want to give you a chance to promote

889
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 5: mister de Lemmy and everybody else who might be com

890
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: hitting this weekend, and then we do have a few

891
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: would you rathers on the way out to try to

892
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: set you up for a great Monday.

893
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we got We've got a couple of guys

894
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: going into We got also got Chris Widman. I think

895
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: he's wrestling, Uh Pat is it to May? I don't

896
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: even know ship Man? What's his name? Who's he's a

897
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: Greco Roman guy? I think it's Pat Pat Toomey, Yeah,

898
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: I think so. He's doing that for the cff C

899
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: on Thursday night. And then Anthony de Lemmy defends his

900
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: title for the first time against.

901
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: Fighting the Boston kid.

902
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, uh, it's definitely an East Coast guy,

903
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Cafaro. He's not from Boston.

904
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: Oh he's fighting, Ryan Cafara. No, not a boss down

905
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: oh down pat Downey is going against Wideman and the.

906
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: Pat down to Hell is Pat Toomey.

907
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: I yeah, no, pat Downey.

908
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 5: I know I didn't May all right, so you got

909
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: Downy and then you got the Lemma fighting Ryan.

910
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: Let's go.

911
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: It's friend to you.

912
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

913
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: So, well, you know he's held pads for Frankie Edgar

914
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: and Paul Felder and many other you know, at one

915
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: point in time, we actually considered, believe it or not,

916
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 5: putting the ane Canloran podcast logo on Ryan Kafaro's shorts.

917
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: So I will not be rooting for your guy this weekend.

918
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: Wow, right, definitely let's.

919
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 5: Go, right, just kidding, I actually love the Lemmy so

920
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: I'm fucking torn.

921
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: Wait fights out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

922
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Well, he's definitely like a Jersey Philly guy. No.

923
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 5: I love Sean Brady though. Got a chance to see

924
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: Sean Brady in Montreal. What an absolute stud the Korean

925
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: thunder Ryan Cafara fights out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. If that's

926
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: the case, I might be rooting to Lemmy.

927
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: Hey, Ray, don't put that logo on his shorts either,

928
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: because it's not gonna look good old bloodied up.

929
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 5: Oh you just want our social team to cut that

930
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 5: for you, right, podcast, We're not gonna look all look good,

931
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: all bloodied up on on Team Longo's opponent, Right, all right?

932
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: Ray?

933
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: Would you rather have a tiny unicorn that follows you everywhere?

934
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: Or a giant fluffy cat that sits on your lap

935
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 5: whenever you try to work?

936
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: Okay, he's not going to answer that.

937
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: I got no I think that Let the tiny unicorn

938
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: follow me. He'll be He'll be in retreat.

939
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: Hope.

940
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: Then, conformed podcast listeners appreciated that Rays looking for the

941
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: tiny unicorn?

942
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: All right, Ray?

943
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 5: Would you rather be followed by a band wherever you go?

944
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 5: Or by someone just narrating your life?

945
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Followed by your band? A ray?

946
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: Would you rather talk like Mickey Mouse when you're angry

947
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 5: or turn into Shrek when you're turned on?

948
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: Jesus crazy? Who I want to know? You to give

949
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: me who the hell is coming up with these show?

950
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: The question beckons? Would you rather talk like Mickey Mouse

951
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: when you're angry?

952
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Now?

953
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Okay, reminding me. When I asked, I was like, I

954
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: want I want Pen's belt.

955
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: Well kind of work for Tyson. Maybe I'll take the

956
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse full holy.

957
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: Finished flights Ray.

958
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 5: Would you rather be wealthy but only able to walk everywhere,

959
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 5: or broke but able to travel anywhere in the world?

960
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: I said, give me wealth, I'll fucking walk anywhere. Oh

961
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 3: you like that one?

962
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: Huh? I like that one. It's interesting. I'll take the wealth,

963
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: all right.

964
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: This question is uh for both of you. Would you

965
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: rather chew with your mouth open?

966
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: No, we did that one.

967
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: Would you rather have to speak in rhyme for the

968
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 5: rest of your life or have to speak in riddles

969
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: for the rest of your life?

970
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: Ken flow? Oh God speaking rhymes?

971
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: Me too?

972
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah right?

973
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 5: Would you rather have a Texas accent and live in

974
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: New York or a New York accent and live in Texas.

975
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: I'd rather have a New York accent live in Texas.

976
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: I yeah.

977
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: When I get rid of that, it's too late.

978
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 5: All right, Hey, we love you. Good luck to mister

979
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: Wibman against Pat Downey.

980
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, I have more, no, no, no more, well

981
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: whatever without no more of those?

982
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: Oh I got more? Mm a yeah, all right, that.

983
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Is that what we're down to? Just one fight on

984
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: that card. That's not saying much about the card? Is it?

985
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: Which card?

986
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: Oh you mean this past weekend, the Burns Morales card. Yeah, oh,

987
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 5: by all means Raymond.

988
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little no, I thought it

989
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: was a week night though. I was you know when

990
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: I started, When I start cleaning up during the fights,

991
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: it's not a good sign.

992
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I h I gave the card the amount of

993
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: minutes that I thought it deserved.

994
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Jared Flash Gordon's a friend.

995
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh wait, like we got to talk about that. We

996
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: should have mentioned that. What a what a beautiful right

997
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: hand counter? Oh yeah, that's to Jared Gordon man. I

998
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: was happy to see him get that knockout.

999
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: That was really good, huge, absolutely needed it. And uh

1000
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 5: big win for Gabe Green by face crank. The prelims

1001
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: featured a lot of finishes. Yeah, I was multitasking as well.

1002
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 5: And this Malcazil cost I think deserves a verbal mentioned

1003
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: great fight with Juliani Rosa. More importantly, cost I think

1004
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: three and oh and twenty twenty five. But uh yeah,

1005
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 5: you know a little bit of a busy weekend and

1006
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 5: uh sort of a not a headline field events, so

1007
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 5: we really want to rall some shine.

1008
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: But you know, Ray, what do you think about Patchie

1009
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 4: Mixed getting signed to the US.

1010
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's exciting. It's a that's gonna be weird too,

1011
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: because he does train with Morab a lot and now

1012
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Joe I believe I know his name has been men.

1013
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: I think he's trained together. He's been is that right?

1014
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: No, No, he's never been at the gym. I'm going

1015
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: to say.

1016
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: They trained together extensively in Vegas. Their friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, friends.

1017
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 5: I'd imagine they'd fight each other for the ultimate prize.

1018
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: But Pati Mix has got to get through Mario Bautista,

1019
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 5: and even then he might not get a title fight,

1020
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 5: you know, so fight that's in my notes as well.

1021
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: Pati Mix is a great guy. If you don't know,

1022
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: Tatiana Suarez's boyfriend. But yeah, nineteen days from now, Ray,

1023
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 5: he fights Mario Bautista UFC three sixteen. You'll be there

1024
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 5: June seventh, right, so it's a good night for him

1025
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: to be fighting Morob defending the belt. But uh yeah,

1026
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 5: it was gonna be Marlon Chidover against Mario Bautista, but

1027
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: instead it'll be mixed.

1028
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: And I think it's a nice addition because it looks

1029
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: like Morob kind of did go through everybody, and we'll

1030
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: see what happens with hopefully he gets pasted O'Malley. But uh, yeah,

1031
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: it's that's interesting. I think PATCHI deserved to be here

1032
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. You know.

1033
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well Morob hasn't fought Corey Sanhagen, right, and Mario

1034
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 5: Bautista has won seven fights in a row, So there

1035
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 5: are people.

1036
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you, I'll tell you that that's not

1037
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: an easy fight, not saying that, but uh but I

1038
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: think even saying Hagan mix would be a good fight. Yeah,

1039
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: that would be a great fight.

1040
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, counter, there's a lot.

1041
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: I think he brings a he brings a new energy

1042
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: into the division. I think it's great.

1043
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 5: Any idea, what the betting line is on your guy

1044
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 5: Marob and Shan O'Malley, and then.

1045
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: We'll really let you go.

1046
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: Rob's the favorite?

1047
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: Is that all you're gonna give me? I mean that's yeah, I'm.

1048
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: Gonna say he's uh, I say he's a minus.

1049
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: One eighty minus three sixty double.

1050
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: It minus three sixty.

1051
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, wow, Yeah, maybe at that big.

1052
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: Maybe this fight won't be as hot as your thought. No,

1053
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, all right, Hey, we love you. I

1054
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 5: hope you enjoyed yourself today. We are actually doing a

1055
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 5: show this Sunday night, May twenty fifth, because Kenny's birthday

1056
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 5: is May twenty sixth.

1057
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: Next.

1058
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: Wow, if you have some time Sunday and there's a window,

1059
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 5: will revolve the entire.

1060
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: Show or schedule.

1061
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: So count me in, count me in.

1062
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: Hey, happy birthday. How old are you? Happy birthday?

1063
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 2: Man? I'm not telling you, all right, chick.

1064
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: Well, we just know it's older than sixty five, so

1065
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: that's correct. I love you.

1066
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: Take it easy of man. Imagine that Kenny older than

1067
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: sixty five. Well, I don't believe it. What good does

1068
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: that do me?

1069
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: He's barely fifty. He's barely fifty.

1070
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: All right, guys, have a great day.

1071
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 5: Command the star of the program, the great Raymond Peter

1072
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 5: Longo with us every week here on the Anek and

1073
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 5: Florian Podcast. I'm just having a little bit of fun

1074
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: with the guy, you know. But at least at the beginning, right,

1075
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 5: I think for people who watch the show on the

1076
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: DraftKings network or on the DraftKings YouTube channel, and they

1077
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: hear me say like give him a little grief or

1078
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: maybe not wanting.

1079
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: To be here. I don't know his energy.

1080
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 5: It first made it seem like it didn't want to

1081
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: be here. I want to be here, you know where.

1082
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 5: I wish the Boston Celtics were the NBA Finals. They're

1083
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: almost here at every second counts. With DraftKings Sports Book,

1084
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 5: an official sports betting partner of the NBA, you're not

1085
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Speaker 5: just watching history though, you're betting on it, and now

1086
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Speaker 5: is your shot to get in on the action, player props,

1087
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Speaker 3: Thank goodness that PATCHI Mix was.

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00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 5: Afforded the opportunity to pursue free agency and come to

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00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 5: the UFC. And you knew he was gonna be asked

1111
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 5: about Morob Dwallace Willy and that friendship and all of that. Right,

1112
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: but can we please put some respect on the name

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 5: Mario Bautista, Right, And the man's won seven fights in

1114
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: a row at one hundred and thirty five pounds, cap

1115
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 5: stoning that winning streak with a win over Jose Aldo,

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00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 5: and no one's saying dick about him. So if he

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00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 5: goes out there and beats PATCHI mix. You know, can

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00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 5: the MMA labs Mario Bautista maybe fight for the world title?

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00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't get too upset like this, Like you

1121
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 5: could tell him upset right now when it comes to

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Speaker 5: super Mario.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 5: But I know we don't live in a straight meritocracy,

1125
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: but like, what are we doing with Mario Baltez. Let's

1126
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 5: not pretend the division's cleaned out when there's a guy

1127
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: who is on a mopstar e of Loyevlake Street, right,

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00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: that's all?

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00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dude's an absolute beast, and I mean is

1130
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: trying to do it the same way that Morob did it.

1131
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: Who's the current champion, So yeah, absolutely deserves it, man, Yeah.

1132
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: So and not unlike the way Bla Muhammad did it.

1133
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: Speaking of which, you know, we wish the former UFC

1134
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 5: Welsway champion all the best. As he continues on the mend,

1135
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 5: it seems like it's probably been a rough couple of

1136
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 5: days for him. I would imagine though, that he still

1137
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 5: keeps his sort of ear to the noise and the

1138
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 5: clamor and Sean Strickland and Blom Muhammad have certainly no

1139
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 5: love loss for one another. And Sean Strickland is now

1140
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 5: trying to angle for that fight. Now, certainly you don't

1141
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 5: want to fight Sean Strickland with a broken orbital, and

1142
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: I'd imagine some people in the team Muhammad camp would

1143
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 5: love him to, you know, take some real appreciable time

1144
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: off here, Kenny.

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00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: That's a big fight though, between two former champions.

1146
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: If it happens at a hundred eighty five pounds, right,

1147
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 5: I'm sure Balao would probably be more in pursuit of,

1148
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: you know, a welterweight eliminator or something like that. But

1149
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 5: what are your thoughts on the Strickland Muhammad noise, because

1150
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 5: there is some.

1151
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's very interesting.

1152
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: I think Strickland's at his point in his career where

1153
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: he kind of wants to do the fun fight thing

1154
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: and do fights that kind of matter to the fans.

1155
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: So I think it's an interesting call out and Ballall.

1156
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 4: Right now, I think Strickland weighed in at like two

1157
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pounds or something crazy.

1158
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: I forget what it was on the scale.

1159
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: He looked massive, but yeah, so for Ballall, he'd have

1160
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 4: to make that weight or you know, I guess get

1161
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: up to twenty five shouldn't be a big problem for him,

1162
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: but he'd have to probably put on some weight and

1163
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: then maybe come back to one. So yeah, I'm curious

1164
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: to see how Ballall approaches this. I still think that

1165
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: he probably feels that he can get that belt back,

1166
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: and I think with a different strategy, maybe a different preparation,

1167
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 4: he can. So Yeah, More importantly, I hope Ballall gets

1168
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 4: healthy as quickly as possible and we see.

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00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 3: Him back in there soon.

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Speaker 5: All Right, few other things I just would like to

1171
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 5: get your thoughts on very quickly. We'll be back with

1172
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Speaker 5: all of you this coming Sunday night to get you

1173
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 5: guys ready for Aaron Blanchfield and Macy Barber and all

1174
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 5: of that noise coming up on May thirty first, and

1175
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: certainly the countdown is on to the Championship doubleheader on

1176
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 5: June seventh. But a few other things right International Fight

1177
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: Week we mentioned Ilioto Portia and Charles Olavera. You also

1178
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 5: will have al Chandre Pantosia, the modest two to forty

1179
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: five betting favorite and defense of his title against Kai

1180
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: Cotta Frantz, who is plus two hundred, and then Manel

1181
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 5: cop that same night the People's Champion Manell Cop minus

1182
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: two ninety eight taken on.

1183
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 3: Brandon Royval who is plus two forty.

1184
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 5: Certainly both of those guys, Royvall and Cop are worthy

1185
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: of a title fight. Right now, you have three guys

1186
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 5: who I think in my mind are worthy. Right kaias

1187
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 5: Acota got the last shot in his UFC debut. What

1188
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 5: are your thoughts on that? Moving night in the flyweight division?

1189
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 5: Kai getting his shot and Manel Cop and a true

1190
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 5: eliminator against the former number one contender.

1191
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: Gotta be a great night of fights.

1192
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: I think, you know, first of all, it's smart for

1193
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: the UFC to pair those fights together in case someone

1194
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 4: does get injured. I think that, you know, Kay car

1195
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: France could be a big threat just based on his

1196
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: striking power alone. He's had a ton of preparation time

1197
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 4: to get ready for someone like Pantosia, and he's got

1198
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: an he had. He's had an opportunity to watch Pantosia

1199
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: do his thing and try to adapt, So curious to

1200
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: see how his preparation goes. And of course Manal Copp

1201
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: has been on fire. Roy Vall is a beast as well,

1202
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 4: so that's gonna be NonStop action for sure. Both those

1203
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 4: guys are so good everywhere that I think it's gonna

1204
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: be a great night.

1205
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 5: Last thing I wanted to get your thoughts on June seventh,

1206
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 5: Kayla Harrison Juliana Penya. Kayla Harrison is the minus six

1207
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 5: hundred betting favorite to become the women's Bandon Wait champion,

1208
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 5: and so Juliana Penny comes back at plus four forty right,

1209
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 5: and you are curious. Dustin Poorrier minus one p fifteen,

1210
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 5: Max Holloway minus one oh five essentially a pickam is

1211
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: my last betting line of the day.

1212
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: But Kayla Harrison broke.

1213
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 5: You've called her fights, You've had an up close seat

1214
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 5: to a lot of her mastery, right, But the reason

1215
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 5: she's minus six hundred and not minus twelve hundred double

1216
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: that is because of the weight correct, right?

1217
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: That ye?

1218
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: Right?

1219
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: I mean, like I just wonder there's no full forty

1220
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: five pound of vision one hundred and forty five pound

1221
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: of vision for the women in the UFC. So for

1222
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: Kayla Harrison, you know, she has sort of given you

1223
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 5: hints as to just how insane this is that she's

1224
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: doing this weight cut, right, and how not good for her?

1225
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 5: It is, right, and you got to think long term,

1226
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: Kayla and her brain really has a philosophical sort of

1227
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 5: divide here with what she is doing. So, like, how

1228
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 5: many times is Kayla Harrison actually going to be able

1229
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 5: to make this way?

1230
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1231
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 5: It's one thing to win the belt against Julian opinion,

1232
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 5: maybe defend it against Amanda Newnes, But bro, Like, if

1233
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 5: you're asking me over under three half more weightcuts for

1234
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 5: Kayla Harrison at Bandon. When I'm saying under, I'm saying

1235
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: she will cut it to win the belt, cut it

1236
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 5: to defend it, and that's fucking it.

1237
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Kayla's jack.

1238
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 4: People don't realize how much muscle muscle she walks around with.

1239
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: And and she competed much heavier even with judo, you know.

1240
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 4: And granted she has a lot more time to make

1241
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: the weightcut and recover than she did obviously when she

1242
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: was competing at a high level in.

1243
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: Judo, at the highest level in judo by the way.

1244
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, one hundred and thirty five pounds there's

1245
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: a lot to ask for, man. Uh So that that's

1246
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: that's the big question mark. And and Panya is one

1247
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: of those girls similar to a drinkist duplus C who

1248
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: is not gonna go away. She will come at you

1249
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: and she's gonna make you uh look for that finish.

1250
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: So Kayla is gonna have to expend a lot of

1251
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 4: energy in doing so. I think the way that she

1252
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: matches up just based on the fact that Panya does

1253
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: a lot of her best work as a grappler, and

1254
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: because Kayla Harrison, I think it is the better grappler.

1255
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 4: I think that's why we're seeing that huge disc when

1256
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: it comes to the gambling numbers. But yeah, I think

1257
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: that's that's the big question mark. Can she make the

1258
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: cut and do it well enough where she can perform

1259
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: at the best of her ability on fight night, So

1260
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting. But Kala, when she's performing at her best,

1261
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a better fighter in that weight class,

1262
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: assuming she makes the cut.

1263
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: Curious to see how it all goes down.

1264
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 5: It's just fascinating when you think back to an era

1265
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 5: of fighters sitting in Childerena is waiting to get on

1266
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: the scale like you did at four o'clock, and there

1267
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: was suspense as whether or not people would make the weight.

1268
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 5: It's nuts, right and almost you know. I'm fighter first,

1269
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 5: So I don't like miss it in totality, but in

1270
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 5: terms of the suspense and the drama and the pageantry.

1271
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: I certainly miss it.

1272
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Speaker 5: But the reason I bring this up is because before

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00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 5: I present these bedding lines to everybody, before I go

1274
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1275
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: these are going to be. And even sometimes for Julianapenny,

1276
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Speaker 5: when I'm loving on her, she thinks I'm hating on her.

1277
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 5: But I had Caleb minus a thousand, and I I

1278
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: can only surmise that she's minus six hundred because making

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01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 5: the weight and competing at the wait several times over,

1280
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 5: I think is going to be really difficult. But far

1281
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: be it for me to challenge the all time great,

1282
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 5: two time American Olympic champion.

1283
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: All right, Glad that we could clean out the MMA

1284
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Speaker 3: news desk a little bit today.

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Speaker 5: Also, I just wanted to acknowledge my dear friend Heidi Dean,

1296
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Speaker 5: who is the UFC matriarch and contributed so much to

1297
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 5: our athletes and our staff and our production over her

1298
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 5: near two decades with the UFC. She is no longer

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Speaker 5: with the company. She has listened to or walked almost

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Speaker 5: every episode of the Anak and Floran podcast. So, HD,

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Speaker 5: if you're watching until the end this week, I know

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Speaker 5: we didn't have any predictions for you, but we love you.

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Speaker 5: She has been a huge inspiration behind the pronunciation of

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Speaker 5: the week and this program. So we love you, HD,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully you won't be a stranger in whatever lies ahead.

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Speaker 3: So all right, do you? We love you? All Right?

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to Ray Longo, our producers, Cody Merril, thanks to

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Speaker 5: Jason Anak and everybody else for putting this fine show together.

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Speaker 5: We are back Sunday, maybe Sunday night, might be sometime

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Speaker 5: around four pm. Again, We're gonna let long go choose

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Speaker 5: essentially when the show is, but also coming up next week,

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Speaker 5: Sunday night. Happy birthday, Cody, Happy birthday Ray, and we

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