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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two here of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: this Wednesday. And Matt sticking with the you know, we

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Speaker 2: did some way too early power ranking or I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe end of the line, Yeah, I guess rankings. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now let's do some way too early fantasy football rankings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But again, this is this time of year. You know,

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of uh wiggle room with our topics.

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Speaker 3: Know the names, and you know where the strengths are,

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Speaker 3: and who do you want this guy or that guy?

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Speaker 3: You know, is this from Fantasy Life?

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Speaker 2: I say, this is from Fantasy Life that you sent me?

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Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, So I keep teasing the combine. This is

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Speaker 3: Matthew Berry's site. He started this site. He's got a

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Speaker 3: lot of really good analysts. Ian Hardist and Dwayne McFarland

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Speaker 3: are the two top guys. They're phenomenal. I think one

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Speaker 3: of the two put this together, either Ian or Dwayne.

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Speaker 3: Matthew I would say eight out of ten years joins

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Speaker 3: us at the combine too. And you know, we were

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Speaker 3: at ESPN together for ten years. I know him reasonably well.

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Speaker 3: Great guy. So little little teaser for you, but it's

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Speaker 3: a good site to free sight. Check it out.

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Speaker 2: It is. They've got a lot. If you are a

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Speaker 2: fantasy football junkie, this is something you should absolutely in

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Speaker 2: the offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers. Way too early twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six Fantasy football rankings.

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Speaker 3: This is very pens or. I can't remember I even

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Speaker 3: looked at it in a while. It's the top guys,

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Speaker 3: was ten, Top twelve, buzz real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is going to be very important for

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Speaker 2: me because I actually have the number one overall pick

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Speaker 2: in my next upcoming fantasy draft. Really league that I

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Speaker 2: care about because here's how we do it. For years

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Speaker 2: and years I hated it and it drove me nuts.

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Speaker 2: But now that it benefited me, I kind of like it.

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Speaker 2: Top four in our league, go to the playoffs, next

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Speaker 2: four compete for consolation, which the prize is the top

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Speaker 2: pick in the upcoming gym. Yeah, and this is not

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Speaker 2: dynasty league, so right, it's all a wash, but it

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Speaker 2: keeps you. Even if you're in that kind of next tier,

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Speaker 2: you still care gauge and you still care and all that.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with quarterbacks way too early for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Josh Allen Number one is that.

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Speaker 3: He might be the best fantasy quarterback that's ever walked

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Speaker 3: the planet. I mean, the touchdowns he produces is nuts,

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Speaker 3: and it's unbelievably consistent.

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Speaker 2: For of the last six years he's finished his QB

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Speaker 2: one in terms of fantasy numbers.

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Speaker 3: Cam Newton's the only one that comes to mind. He

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Speaker 3: didn't last quite as long, but he went like six

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Speaker 3: years in a row where he was top three. I

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Speaker 3: mean similar because their goal line weapons and Allen's even better.

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Speaker 3: I think he has to be one.

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Speaker 2: I think so find the end zone a lot, both

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Speaker 2: of his arm and with his legs. Drake May number two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you mentioned your home league. I won my league

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Speaker 3: this year. Took May was my target. Got him in

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Speaker 3: like the ninth round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually had

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Speaker 3: like four Patriots, which looked a little weird on draft day,

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Speaker 3: but I had It's Stevenson, Henderson, Diggs and May Seattle's

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Speaker 2: For money quality. Yeah, and that's where you really win

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's The only place like I have an

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Speaker 3: advantage over my buddy is a little you know, because

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Speaker 3: everyone's working off the same list, even if I wrote

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Speaker 3: the list of your list, or they just listen to

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Speaker 3: our show and be like, oh Williams and likes.

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Speaker 2: May number three, Lamar number four, Burrow number five, Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's some interesting This is a you know, that's

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Speaker 3: why we talk fantasy here, and when people used to

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Speaker 3: criticize Dale and I that we talked a little too much.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of overlap to the real world.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And there's a there is some rumblings that

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Speaker 3: ownership in Baltimore doesn't want Lamar running quite as much,

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Speaker 3: you know, a big investment, let's get more out of

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Speaker 3: his career. Obviously that's a direct correlation. Burnwo doesn't run

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Speaker 2: He does enough situationally when he needs to. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: third and four and he'll get you five.

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Speaker 3: He'll get you twenty yards a game, or something like.

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Speaker 2: The way Josh Allen Drake may are running.

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Speaker 3: I mean, anyone that knows fantasy, your quarterback almost has

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Speaker 2: You know, Daniels is an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I would have no problem taking him fifth.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to get back to the guy

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Speaker 2: that we all thought he was.

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Speaker 3: He had some durability stuff at LSU though, too. That's

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Speaker 3: my only concern.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he did, and he's got a star. He's done

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Speaker 2: better protecting himself, but he's still got some ways to

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Speaker 2: go in that department. Six. Caleb Williams seven, Jackson Dart eight.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: That's wonder where herds didn't come in. If they lose

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Speaker 3: the tush push, that changes things. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: big thing in the fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that could be back on the dock at

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Speaker 2: with these owners meetings, League meetings at the end of March.

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Speaker 3: I bet that it gets pulled off the table.

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Speaker 2: But hasn't it Even like last year when they voted

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Speaker 2: on this, I thought it wasn't particularly close, was it.

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Speaker 3: I remember Tomlin commenting on it because he's on the

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Speaker 3: Competition committee, and I think they tabled it at least

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Speaker 3: at the owners meeting that I went twenty to ten okay.

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Speaker 2: Last year, which is only two votes short.

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Speaker 3: didn't sound like you're close.

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Speaker 2: You need twenty four votes yes, which is seventy five

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Speaker 2: percent majority. So they got twenty two yes, ten nay.

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Speaker 3: So this is what Tomlin said, more or less was

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Speaker 3: since he's on the Competition committee, He's like, if you

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Speaker 3: look at every tush push that's ever happened, it's still

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Speaker 3: a pretty small body of work. Last offseason, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we only have I'm guessing fifty of them to

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Speaker 3: go off of, like do we know it's a dangerous

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Speaker 3: player or not. But now everyone's doing it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Connor Hayward's doing it. It's evolving, it's evolving.

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Speaker 2: It's not just a toush push. It's a tush trick.

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Speaker 3: So I think it could go away this year, which

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Speaker 3: hurts some people. Hurts hurts, hurts hurts.

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Speaker 2: The ten teams last year that voted to keep it

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Speaker 2: that's not as much of I thought they needed more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's odd that that small number of votes

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Speaker 2: The last twenty four out of thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Is oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart at seven. How are you feeling about that?

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Speaker 3: It's all about running?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't keep himself healthy.

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Speaker 3: I said, I wouldn't pick him that high.

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Speaker 2: Prescott or part of me? Mahomes at nine, Prescott at ten,

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Speaker 2: Party eleven, justin Herbert twelve to round out your top twelve.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback Mahomes and I actually didn't look at these. I

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Speaker 3: good because I trust a site. Mahomes and Herbert really

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Speaker 3: stand out to me. Mahomes is well as good value

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Speaker 3: the first couple of games. But Herbert with Mike McDaniels

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Speaker 3: a quarterback high because I can kind of mark my team,

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Speaker 3: take one and then take another one after that.

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Speaker 2: It's all It's like the one position where if you

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Speaker 2: because your guys hurt or whatever. You can always find

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Speaker 2: a quality Yeah. Yeah, Sam Darnold was available the whole year,

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Speaker 2: you know, like Joe Flacco was available the whole time

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Speaker 2: he was putting up numbers in Cincinnati. Those guys for

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Speaker 3: You, no, right, you know you need even mention like

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Speaker 3: a Jordan Love Yeah. I mean there's many outside the

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Speaker 2: It running backs h B Jean Robinson at the top

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Speaker 2: of the board. No shocker there. I think for me,

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Speaker 2: I think you and I are both on board. Jamiir

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Speaker 2: Gibbs two, Christian McCaffrey three. Yescaffrey's interesting.

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey's tough for me. I mean I've mentioned a thousand

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Speaker 3: times I host a podcast with the Lockdown Niners guy,

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Speaker 3: and Brian said, and he's right. He catches a ton

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Speaker 3: of passes, but he's not the same runner he used

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Speaker 3: to be. He's not his bursty and he only averaged

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Speaker 3: like three point nine four yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the blocking wasn't his yards per Cary wasn't great

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Speaker 3: Didn't run the ball well as a team, and I thought,

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Speaker 3: and I said, well on the airthough, I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: don't think of really the running backs. So I was like,

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Speaker 3: kind of like what Deebo was for them. They call

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Speaker 3: it like a wide back, the combination wide receiver running

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Speaker 3: make McCaffrey like a glorified slot receiver with some handoffs

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Speaker 3: and the receiving stuff's great, but he's been pretty beat up.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm using the third pick of the

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Speaker 2: It's just there's way too much risk there for for

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Speaker 2: that high of a of a of a draft position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number four, Chase Brown, Cincinnati Banks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. I think he deserves more respect

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Speaker 2: as a quality fantasy football running back. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not taking him ahead of James Cook or Devon a Chain, No,

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Speaker 3: No, those definitely those three are ahead of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooks at five, Omarion Hampton at six. That's an

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Speaker 3: I'll be buying Chargers, including Hampton. I'm sure if they

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Speaker 3: were to write up each player, the beauty of Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown is and same coaching staff coming back, he gets

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Speaker 3: like eighty percent of the backfield touches. They don't use

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Speaker 3: anybody else.

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Speaker 2: James Cook five, Omarion Hampton six, von A Chaine seven.

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to know what the new staff

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Speaker 2: Same, it's the only thing.

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Speaker 3: They fed him so many passes.

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Speaker 2: Same with Ashton Genty, who checks in at eight on

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Speaker 2: the running back power rankings.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably take him higher than that. Yeah, just because

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Speaker 3: I think they'll have a real O line coach and

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Speaker 3: I think the offense will be real again.

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Speaker 2: And they'll be like, why weren't we using this guy?

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Speaker 3: One of my targets is Maconkie. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: So, Matt, I talked about this a little bit at

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Speaker 3: Learning from daddy, you know, learning from two brothers, you

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Speaker 2: I will. I think you could have told me, Wes,

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Speaker 3: Me, I got a lot of those back too. Sopranos

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Speaker 3: Breaking Bag.

439
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 2: Sopranos is great, but there's a lot of slow, kind

440
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: of empty calories in the Sopranos is its only problem? Yeah,

441
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: but no show's perfect. No would you rather? Wednesday? Question

442
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: number two? So, building off of what we just talked

443
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: about there, would you rather the Steelers have Malik Willis

444
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 2: or any quarterback in this draft? Your choice of anyone

445
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: not named Fernando Mendoza.

446
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh Willis? Yeah, yeah, yes, I would rather. And we're

447
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 3: not even talking about the cost. Yeah, you know, like.

448
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: Because obviously it's like I can get Willis and still have.

449
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: A draft and still have the twenty first pick I'm

450
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: to play.

451
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Willis on the roster or any

452
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: other quarterback not named Mendoza.

453
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Willis subject the change if I fall in love with

454
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 3: on those guys. But I'm really intrigued with Willis.

455
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: And I was gonna say for you, that's more intriguing Willis,

456
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: I think than it is a knock on those other

457
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: guys not named Mendozo.

458
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think he is way more upside than

459
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: all those guys. If he hits, he could hit big.

460
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that any of those guys could hit

461
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: big big, Like could be one of the best quarterbacks

462
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 3: in the league. The interesting question, and it's one Will

463
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: chat about, is would you rather have Rogers or Willis?

464
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: That I don't know yet. I lean towards Willis just

465
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: because of age.

466
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: I think so.

467
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

468
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: The for me, the number one reason for the number

469
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: one thing that would excite me most about having Aaron

470
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers back is him tutoring Will Howard and potentially another

471
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Speaker 2: young quarterback.

472
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 3: Yes, and I like that whole theory we just talked

473
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: through too. You know, two young guys battling it out

474
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: for the throne.

475
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: You know, when if and when Aaron Rodgers is back,

476
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 2: You're not going to convinced me that it's gonna be

477
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: better than it was last year. But with Malik Willis,

478
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: you could convince me that it could be better than

479
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: it was last year. There's at least eight years. There's

480
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: at least a possibility.

481
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: For the next eight years. This is the difference to.

482
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: Me, Like, if Aaron Rodgers is back, I think about

483
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: winning ten games and going to the playoffs again, and

484
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: maybe you win a playoff game, is still the ceiling,

485
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: whereas Malik Willis, it could be like, hey, if this

486
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: guy takes off, yeah, maybe the ceiling is higher.

487
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: Now McCarthy's offense with two really good receivers added. Someone

488
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: might snip this in week ten when Willis is one

489
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 3: and nine with Miami and it looks like a disaster

490
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: and be like you thought the one of the best

491
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks of all time compared to this bust in the

492
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: third round. But yeah, like yeah, I might be real wrong.

493
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. But again it's also to just your thought.

494
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: Are you thinking this, are you thinking the way the

495
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Steelers think of the next game is the most important

496
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: in this year and whatever gives us the best chance now,

497
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: well then it's Rogers. Then it's Rogers. Duh. But if

498
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: you're saying like I want to buy a lottery ticket

499
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: where I might only win five bucks, but I could

500
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: win five million bucks. It's the it's the risk reward compensation.

501
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: Rogers floor is much higher, but at this point of

502
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: their career, I think Willis.

503
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: Has the higher skills or yeah.

504
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: And as you have if you've highlighted a million times,

505
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: that's what you need for modern NFL quarterbacks nowadays. Would

506
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: you rather? Wednesday? Question number three? This one's going to

507
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: center around a Lamar Jackson trade. Okay, so I guess

508
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: let's say this is a would you rather from the

509
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: standpoint of the Raiders? Okay, okay, would you rather take

510
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Speaker 2: Mendoza and keep all your draft picks? Or would you

511
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: rather trade the first overall pick, your twenty twenty seven

512
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: first rounder and another day to quality pick for Lamar Jackson?

513
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: Wow?

514
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: Do you think that's fair draft compensation to first rounders?

515
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: And let's say first overall in next year's first which

516
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: will probably be pretty high to first first overall's got

517
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot. There aren't many players that

518
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: you could trade first overall for and still have to

519
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: throw something in. I mean, there really are.

520
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: They're all quarterbacks. That's theelon quarterback.

521
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like Micah Parsons went for two first

522
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 3: and stuff, but it wasn't first overall, not even close.

523
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: It not even close. And there's a pretty legit prospect there.

524
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not Burrow or Luck, but it's a legit prospect.

525
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: So let's say the Raiders first this year and the

526
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Speaker 3: Raiders first next year, which I don't think will be

527
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 3: thirty two even with Lamar.

528
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know it's I.

529
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 3: Bet Mark Davis would say, I want Lamar to sell

530
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: tickets to drum up interest for the billboards and the billboards, yep,

531
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Speaker 3: what's Lamar going to be like in three years?

532
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: That's the tough one for me, because he's way.

533
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: Better than Mendoza now and next year in the year after,

534
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: like you might be the best co back walking the plane.

535
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: If Lamar was twenty seven instead of twenty nine. I

536
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: think this is an easy yes.

537
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: One year ago, it's an easy yes. I mean, coming

538
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: off it came off an injury field season.

539
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: He's getting close to thirty.

540
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Right, But he's such a good pocket passer too.

541
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: He is that part I take.

542
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if you're the Ravens, I think I take Lamar.

543
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's interesting.

544
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: I mean that because they have the steeler mentality.

545
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: Like they do Mendoza and another first round pick would

546
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: be very intrigued. And it's not a first round pick

547
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: from the Rams.

548
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: The first round you've traded thirty year old Ben for Mendoza.

549
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: Next year's first when you've got ab and Bell, you

550
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like when you're when you're thinking

551
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: of the division, right.

552
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Ben's best years as a player were probably like when

553
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: he was like thirty to thirty four, and Lamar's those

554
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: those were when he was putt up those five hundred

555
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: our passing games and dice and everybody up.

556
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: And I mean, this guy won the MVP last year.

557
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: In a weird way, You're right, because we translate so

558
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: much of lamar Our success to the athleticism. But he

559
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: has gotten so much better as a passer that his

560
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: in that regard, his best years might still be to common,

561
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: which sounds nuts to say about a two time MVP.

562
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: If he plays like he did last year, he's gonna

563
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: be a three time MVP, you know what I mean,

564
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: They're close to it.

565
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: That was a tough one. I was kind of I was.

566
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: I liked that one that I cooked up there because

567
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: that's that's hard to answer.

568
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: What if it was Mendoza and Crosby.

569
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: And what draft capital?

570
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 3: That's it?

571
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: That's it from whose standpoint.

572
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: The Ravens, Yes, I mean when now still very much

573
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: on the table.

574
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: Because think about it too. Might with that is, yeah,

575
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: Max Crosby makes a nice chunk of money, but you'd

576
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: be essentially.

577
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: You'd be gain money.

578
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: You'd be gaining money along with Crosby and Mendoza. You

579
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: could add another nice piece to that offense.

580
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: You still have your first round pick, which could be

581
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: the Penn State Guard and.

582
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: If Mendoza hits you, you know you've got them in

583
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: year two, three four on that rookie contract with a

584
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: real good chance to build a beast.

585
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: I would think the Ravens would be a legit contender.

586
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Swapping Lamar for Mendoza and thrown in Crosby. Oh buddy,

587
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean you're losing the best piece. But that's pretty interesting.

588
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: It's very very interesting.

589
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who says noted that one.

590
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: That's one of the maybe maybe we have to say,

591
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: maybe I'll have the couch that one. And that's a

592
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: question we can bring up to like some of our

593
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: draft knicks, and people like that when we get out

594
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: to the get out to.

595
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: Steeler fans, would you like that the Ravens made that trade?

596
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: That's really how you answer it. That's always looking at

597
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: like four thounds, like when you're playing against the Ravens,

598
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: you want them to go for it here or not

599
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: not what the books say, and like, oh they went

600
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: for it. Didn't want them to do? Would you want

601
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: the Ravens to make that trade?

602
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I feel like there's a real divide

603
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: of Steeler fans, like half of which realize how good

604
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: Lamar is. The other half just have seen the Steelers

605
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: have a lot of success against him and think that's

606
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: all that he is, and haven't watched him play against

607
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: the other third teams in the NFL.

608
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: Because that drusher is also a huge need for the

609
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: huge And do you want the best prospect in the

610
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: draft going in the division for the next twelve years?

611
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: You know? Hell man, it's a good way looking at that.

612
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: I think of them, the Ravens, I say yes to that.

613
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty interesting. You all your draft picks and.

614
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: The kicker sign at a first round talent. Yeah, and

615
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: you got probably an extra fifteen, fifteen to twenty million

616
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: dollars in cap space to go work with. All Right, Matt,

617
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: two more for you. These are a little more. These

618
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: are lighter, a little bit more fun. Okay. Would you

619
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: rather Matt Williamson win the NFL regular season MVP award

620
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: or win an Olympic gold medal you personally, Matt Williamson, Oh, MVP. Yeah.

621
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: I have great respect to the Olympics, but I hardly

622
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: ever put it on.

623
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Do you know what Olympic event?

624
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to know what it would event. I'd

625
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: pick Yeah, f O MVP.

626
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome, it is, but it's ultimate team sport,

627
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: ultimate team sport, ultimate team sport, where if you win

628
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: the gold, it's you baby. Like for me, if it's

629
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: the one hundred meter dash, I think I'm choosing the

630
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: gold medal because then for the next four years I

631
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: get to call myself the fastest man in the world.

632
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Pretty cool. Like I can't even relate.

633
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: I was never even the fastest amongst my friend group

634
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

635
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: So super quick story. When I was with this with

636
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: the Browns, I sat in on several of the combine meetings,

637
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, and would bring in prospects and of course

638
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: we had a high pick and as one of them

639
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: was walking out the door, I'll tell you who it

640
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: is later and end up being a bust. One of

641
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: the advanced and one of the scouts had been there

642
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: a long time put him right in the spot as

643
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: he's walking like hand on the on the door handle

644
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl or Super Bowl, and he went Pro Bowl.

645
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, you've told me that story.

646
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought that was pretty good.

647
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: I think I remember who it is, I'll ask you. Yeah, uh,

648
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: I I think unless it's a hundred meter dash and

649
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: I can say I'm the fastest man in the world

650
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: for for the next four years, I think I would

651
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: go MVP two just because what that means for your

652
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: pocketbook is much greater.

653
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

654
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you went an NFL regular season MVP, you're

655
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: making forty fifty million dollars a year.

656
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: At some point you get a gold and curling. It's

657
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: not going to pay off. Question.

658
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Speaker 2: You might be on the cover of Weedies and get

659
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Speaker 2: a bump out of it, but it's not going to

660
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: be nearly that close. Last one for you met TV

661
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: and I kind of were laughing about this one before

662
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Speaker 2: the show. Today is the twenty fifth anniversary of a

663
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: pretty significant moment in the Pittsburgh sports landscape. I don't

664
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to put you on the

665
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Speaker 2: spot because I know that that's tough. Ask twenty five

666
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: years ago today Through River Stadium was demolished, imploded, twenty.

667
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Speaker 3: Five years ago, spent aid, I know you did.

668
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, going with this one. Would you rather, Matt Williamson,

669
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: go to one more Steelers game at three River Stadium

670
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: or go to one more college party at your old

671
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: frat house.

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Speaker 3: The party, That's.

673
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Speaker 2: What I thought he was gonna say, But I don't know.

674
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't great. It's like I went to pitt Johnstown.

675
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: It was a glorified door.

676
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: Sure it's not like one of these sec but you

677
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: get Steeler game of three Rivers or one more frat

678
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: party from your college days.

679
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: And the Steeler question is I'd rather go as a

680
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: fan too. I'm not going and current capacity, no iron,

681
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: iron hand twelis and sitting in the press box on

682
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Speaker 3: my laptop.

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Speaker 2: You know you're iron and terrible town.

684
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'd do the party.

685
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Fun.

686
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: That's a tough one, I mean, because I'm not going

687
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: alone to the Steeler game.

688
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no ideals. Yes, high school or

689
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: college buddies.

690
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: It's a Steeler game, because I'd get there at like

691
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: nine am, would party like crazy.

692
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Speaker 2: This one's easy for me, just because I remember going

693
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Speaker 2: to Steelers and Pirates games at Three Rivers. I've told

694
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: you I remember being at that Broncos a FC championship

695
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 2: game with my grandpa when John Alway found Shannon sharpon

696
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Stird and Long and the Steelers lost the a f

697
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: C Championship game and the Broncos went to Super Bowl

698
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: thirty two and went on to beat Farvan the Packers

699
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Speaker 2: and get Elway his first ring.

700
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Speaker 3: I remember watching like Woodson, and I.

701
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Remember go again, not like real vividly, but I remember

702
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Speaker 2: being at Steelers games and Pirates games at Three Rivers

703
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: with my grandpa, But not like being a twenty year

704
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: old with my buddies the full that would be awesome.

705
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we took the tea down and stay there.

706
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: All day, and no one's got smartphones and Instagram and

707
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: selfies of themselves. They're there for the football game. Yeah.

708
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: And frankly, I'm just a lot closer with my high

709
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: school buds than my fraternity brothers. And I got three

710
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: of them coming over tonight. We're playing cards.

711
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Speaker 2: Nice.

712
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Speaker 3: You know that I graduated ninety one from Lebo. Yeah,

713
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: they'll be over in three hours. Yeah, you know right.

714
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: At first, I originally had it down go to one

715
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Speaker 2: more Steelers game or go to see Led Zeppelin at

716
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Speaker 2: three over Stadium. But I figured that that would definitely

717
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: be Zeppelin for you. Yeah, yeah, that's not even close.

718
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Speaker 3: Maybe even I mean, I know we're not supposed to

719
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: talk about the penns Verus Steelers, but if I go

720
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: watch sixty six one more time too, that's my athlete.

721
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Speaker 2: Yeah one what like for your son? For my daughters,

722
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: who were obviously much younger, but like I would love

723
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: to one day, you know, if I could control the universe,

724
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Speaker 2: Like when my girls get old enough, I'd love to

725
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: be able to take them to a Steelers game at

726
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Speaker 2: three Rivers. I'd love to be able to take them

727
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: to a Penn's game at the Igloo. Yea, you know,

728
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: like go back in time and just again those atmospheres

729
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: before it was smartphones and jumbo trons and when people

730
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Speaker 2: were just there for the game.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was before my time. But I can't even

732
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Speaker 3: imagine going to a nineteen seventy eight Steeler ra Steeler

733
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Speaker 3: Raider Game, Steelers Raiders, Three Rivers.

734
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Speaker 2: You know, Steelers Browns. My uncle was there sooner tells

735
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: those stories about Steelers Brown's back in the day and

736
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: the fights and the ohyah oh.

737
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Speaker 3: M's better than going to a nineteen eighty seven Steeler game. Yes,

738
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Speaker 3: you know, end of the chuck Nole. Youre them, I mean,

739
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: but it wouldn't be bad. They're all pretty good.

740
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Speaker 2: They're all pretty good. Yeah, we'll take them all. We'll

741
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: wrap this show up. We'll close things down with some

742
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Speaker 2: tweets when we return. On the other side, Westheeler, Matt Williams.

743
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Speaker 2: I knew that because you never saw them live, did

744
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: you know? And like I still remember, like Sean McDowell

745
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: talking about Zeppelin at Three Rivers all the time, Yeah,

746
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: all the time.

747
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: I saw Floyd in their prime at Three Rivers.

748
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 2: Was that the best show you ever saw there?

749
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Milmitary laughter, reason and division bell. I didn't see

750
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: like the Wall. I was too young for that. Still,

751
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: they were in the height of their powerace.

752
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, that's pretty good. We'll close this thing

753
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: down with some tweets. On the other side, Yeuler Williamson

754
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Speaker 2: Steelers audio Network, your tuns.

755
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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

756
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

757
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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here of the drive on this Wednesday,

758
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: as we put a bow on today's proceedings with some

759
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Speaker 2: of your tweets before we get up out of here,

760
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: Matt Chris tweets us and says, if you were trying to,

761
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: you know, find the next wreck clamation project, Sam Darnold type,

762
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: which of these would be the most appealing? Now I

763
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: think I know your answer because he's the one we've

764
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: talked about the most. Malik willis Kyler Murray mac Jones

765
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: to at tag of Viola. It's Malik, right, yeah, pretty obviously,

766
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: let's yes.

767
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: But well I think we have to pull him out

768
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Speaker 3: of the equation.

769
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Speaker 2: That's what was what I was going to say. So

770
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Speaker 2: how about the other three? Kyler Murray mac Jones.

771
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: TUA two is a distant last, especially.

772
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Speaker 2: With the contract. And I guess if he gets cut.

773
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Speaker 3: I think he'll get cut. I think he'll cut. I

774
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: think his destination is go be Matthew Stafford's backup, you know,

775
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: one of those reclamation projects.

776
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Study study abroad for a semester.

777
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Speaker 3: No pressure, mac Jones is better than I give him

778
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: credit for. I'm always really hard on him and think

779
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: he's a system quarterback and that everyone is. But I'm

780
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: using that in a negative connotation. But he's a quality

781
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: player and would probably fit in reasonably well. I don't

782
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: think Kyler. Kyler is a good system fit for this offense,

783
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 3: but he's the most talented of these three by far,

784
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't shock me if the second half of

785
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: his career getting out of a bad organization is a

786
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: lot better in the first half of his career. If

787
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: he goes the Jets, forget about it.

788
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Maybe not quite to the Sam Darnold level, Ryan Tannehill

789
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: or Geno Smith. You have a couple of Pro Bowl years.

790
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: And I don't think this question is like going to

791
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: take the team to the Super Bowl, but like reclamation project,

792
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: do they reclaim what they could have been?

793
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: I think Malik is the clear answer. But then after that,

794
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Mac Jones does become intriguing, just depending on what's intriguing,

795
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: what you have to give up to give for him.

796
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: RJ tweets us and says, what's your guys preference at

797
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: left guard? Is it as simple as just bringing back

798
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: Sayamalu or would you draft one relatively high. I know

799
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: Matt always says you don't want to fish in the

800
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Speaker 2: free agent pond of offensive lineman with those price tags.

801
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually just did a podcast on all

802
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: the Steelers upcoming free agents and see them all. Who's

803
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: the one that gets the most response. He got whipped

804
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: by the Texans. He's old, he's banged up. I want

805
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: a youth movement. I still think there's a lot of

806
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: value of having a leader in that offensive line room,

807
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: and especially with the new a line coach, someone that

808
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: they all look up to. I don't want all young

809
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: guys in an offensive line room or any position room,

810
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: let alone that one. I would offer him a contract.

811
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: I think he made nine ish million this year. If

812
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: I could get him on a one year deal at

813
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: about that level, knowing he's probably gonna miss time, knowing

814
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: i'd have Anderson, and knowing I'm probably gonna draft at

815
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: least one or two offensive lineman of some sort. One

816
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: of them might be a tackle that pushes at left

817
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: guard and then maybe bomb us out to tackle a

818
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: year from now, so I would like I don't think

819
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: it's crazy to offer him a contract and draft two

820
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: that aren't six and seven thrown picks and wealth there

821
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: and Anderson's in the mix too.

822
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: You know, always want one too many, one too many.

823
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't not a seventh round pick, but

824
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: not a second round pick either, right.

825
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: I envisioned like a third and fifth round offensive linemen

826
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Speaker 3: that are different in neither one is a true center,

827
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Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, like maybe one of

828
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Speaker 3: them is the tackle that has arms that are too

829
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: short that some people think he's guard but maybe still

830
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 3: is that. Yeah, you know something like that.

831
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: No center center not needed, hopefully for the next decade.

832
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to center only no matter what.

833
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Speaker 2: Smooth Dave tweets us and says, any this is a

834
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: good this is a good question. Actually, this is a

835
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: fair question. Any concern that Brian Angelico was part of

836
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Speaker 2: the brain trust that drafted JJ McCarthy and prioritized him

837
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Speaker 2: over Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 3: I saw this question. I'm glad you picked it because

839
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: I went to it slipped my mind because I wanted

840
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: to talk about it. I'm sure he wrote a scouting

841
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: report and had input in the conversation. And I'm sure

842
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 3: he wrote a scouting report on McCarthy as a draft prospect.

843
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: But with all respect to the Steelers' new offensive coordinator,

844
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure he didn't carry close to a big enough

845
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: stick in the organization. Have any saying it was the

846
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: tight ends coach, right right? This is probably an owner

847
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: gm head coach conversation. Like if this was the Steelers,

848
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: it was probably mister Rooney, mister Tomlin, mister Kahn sitting

849
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: there having this conversation. You know what I mean.

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: It's not, hey, let's bring the tight end coach to

851
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback coach.

852
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: But maybe they all had their say. There was probably

853
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: a big meeting where the tight end coach chimed in

854
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: or passing game coordinator chimes in. But in the end,

855
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: when the final decision is made, he's not in the room,

856
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: you know. I he may have been like, I think

857
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's the next I think we can win the

858
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Sam Donald. They're like, that's nice, we heard,

859
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: we heard from you, but we don't.

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Speaker 2: He was very low man on the totem pole in

861
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Speaker 2: that in that conversation's.

862
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: Not high enough on the totem pole.

863
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good question. On the it's

864
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: a good question. It's a fair question, it is, But

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Speaker 2: I I I doubt he had enough forraction of a

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Speaker 2: percentage of say in that in that decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Belichick didn't consult the tight ends coach. If I'm

868
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: starting Bradier bled so in the Super Bowl, you know

869
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: why they're well compensated. As coach Tom will I used

870
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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 2: You've also got like all your college scouts who have

872
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: a pretty big and they all that have been grinding

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00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: tape on JJ McCarthy for two or three years.

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Speaker 3: Now. They've all contributed, and we make this we listened

875
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Speaker 3: to every but eventually the President of the United States

876
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Speaker 3: is the one decides if you knew him or not

877
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Speaker 3: or whatever you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's now he was the head coach or

879
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator of that brain trust question, different conversation.

880
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to address the question. It's

881
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: like I can't give him credit if it went well

882
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: or blame if it didn't.

883
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, if JJ McCarthy was all pro might be type right.

884
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Darnold fell on his face in Seattle and they

885
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: won three games. It doesn't mean he was wrong or right.

886
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Matthew tweets us. If Dobb signs with another team in

887
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: free agency, who's your next go to wide receiver to sign,

888
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: not a lot of great options in my opinion, you

889
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: guys have any interest in trading for Aj Brown or

890
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. We're going to do more of the wide

891
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: receiver tomorrow. Wide receiver trade conversation tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do think that is certainly an option because

893
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: they have so many picks. Could a third or a

894
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: fourth round pick and money yield you a starting receiver

895
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: that's better than what's on the market. And I do

896
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: think because there's so many in the draft and there's

897
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: always ones you can trade for, free agency hasn't been

898
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: real kind to the free to the wide receiver position.

899
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: I definitely think they need to sign someone, someone better

900
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: than Calvin Austin. You know, I mean to at least

901
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: put that low a bar. But you're probably not going

902
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: to get your money out of the player because it's

903
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: going to cost you like twenty million for Dobbs. Yeah,

904
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: which I'm okay in this situation. To do Pierce is

905
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: going to be more than that. Like we have a

906
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: running joke on my other podcast, like there's a handful

907
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: of these receivers, sh Dobbs. Pierce is the best example

908
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: that are probably going to go from underrated to overrated

909
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: in about a month.

910
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: The Christian Kirk that we saw, yeah, right, right right,

911
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: and that massive deal in Jacksonville.

912
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: Right, well, he's an underrated player. But and then the

913
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: league someone gives them twenty five million a year and

914
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: it's like, well he's really overrated. He's okay.

915
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: You can go from underrated to overpaid very quickly. Right

916
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: positions of needs.

917
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: And a wide receiver. That happens a lot because there's

918
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: a lot of other avenues to get them. I just

919
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: think the Steelers need to add three, so one of

920
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: them should probably come into free agency.

921
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Speaker 2: Last one to close us down for the day. Sudesh

922
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: tweets us and says, I'm a subscriber to the Matt

923
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Williamson theory of line of scrimmage. Everyone says a quarterback

924
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: is essential for winning Super Bowls, but I believe that

925
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: being able to generate pressure with four defense of lineman

926
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: is just as important. I think when you look over

927
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: the last ten to fifteen Super Bowls, that's hard to deny.

928
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Speaker 3: I watched the Eagles, you know.

929
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Speaker 2: That's how the Eagles have gotten to three and one two?

930
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what the railed Mahomes when Tampa Bay

931
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: and Philly they dominated.

932
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's how the Eagles were able to beat

933
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Brady in the Pats back in twenty eighteen with Nick Foles. Yeah,

934
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: Nick Foles played the game of his life, which was important.

935
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Speaker 3: I mean, really, go back. That's how the Giants beat

936
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: the undefeated Patriots.

937
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: He says that in here too. It's how it's Howlin

938
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: beat Tom Brady twice. Yep, and again the last those

939
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: guys right, Yeah, if you can, if you can demoralize

940
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: on offense with just four down linemen and play chess

941
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: with those other seven guys behind, that's a tough formula

942
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: to overcome.

943
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean go back to Joe Green when four

944
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowls of six years and Bradshaw was good, and

945
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Song was good, and Lambert was good, but Front four

946
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 3: was real good.

947
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: Yes it was, Yes, it certainly was. That'll do it

948
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Speaker 2: for the show. Today had some fun. We touched on

949
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: a lot of different topics, a lot of different bases. Yeah,

950
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: we did here today. Tomorrow on the show we will

951
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: do some of those wide receiver trade candidate conversations. I

952
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: also believe we'll catch up with our buddy Chris Halleck

953
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: and continue to talk some draft and combine and free

954
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: agency stuff as we roll along here through the month

955
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Speaker 2: of February. Thanks to Nate Doug on the ones and

956
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: twos for producing mister TV, Tyler V on the video

957
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: side of things on YouTube for Matt Williams and Umwsheeler.

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Speaker 2: Take care, everybody, We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always,

959
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: you know where to find us. It's on your twenty

960
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.