Speaker 1: Hell I Suck a Dating with Dengler and dared Haven
Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Welcome back Sucky Daters to an all new
Speaker 1: episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Dean on Alert
Speaker 1: is uh still down in Mexico, people, He's still drinking
Speaker 1: some tequila with his bachelor friends, hopefully being very safe
Speaker 1: and probably playing horrible golf. But of course Jedevieve Paris
Speaker 1: is back co hosting with me, which is fantastic, And
Speaker 1: we have a very special guest who is on the
Speaker 1: line right now. She is the co founder and chief
Speaker 1: innovation officer of Betch's Media, which is huge. Everybody knows Betches. Uh.
Speaker 1: It is Geordana Abraham, Geordanna, how are you. I'm great,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm I'm excited to be here
Speaker 1: talking about dating, you know. I mean, well, you have
Speaker 1: all the good things. I mean, I feel like if
Speaker 1: there's anybody that's gonna talk about dating, it's the it's
Speaker 1: one of the co founders of Batches. Uh. What you
Speaker 1: guys do there is incredible. I mean I have some
Speaker 1: stats right here that you guys, You guys have an audience,
Speaker 1: a growing community, if you will, of forty three million people.
Speaker 1: And it's only just growing after that. How does that
Speaker 1: make you feel, like knowing that you created something that's
Speaker 1: this ginormous in this chinormous uh, this impactful. Um, it's
Speaker 1: very surreal. You know. I started Badges with my two
Speaker 1: co founders about eleven years ago out of our college apartment.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely and we were just we didn't start
Speaker 1: it to be a business. We just started it kind
Speaker 1: of just like messing around in our apartment because we
Speaker 1: had a lot of free time. Um. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of incredible to see where it's gone and come in
Speaker 1: the past eleven years and that we have this whole
Speaker 1: company and that we can make people laugh every day
Speaker 1: and just form a community for them. Did you ever
Speaker 1: see it and get getting to this point? Like I think, Um,
Speaker 1: a good uh uh parallel or analogy would be something
Speaker 1: like barstool Sports, if you don't mind me comparing, Like
Speaker 1: I look at Dave Portnoy and like how he talks
Speaker 1: about barstool Sports and where it started and where it
Speaker 1: is now and what you guys like you just said,
Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, we just started like in our
Speaker 1: house talking and then now it's grown into this multi
Speaker 1: million dollar platform for sure. Yeah, there's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of um of parallels, and I think it almost in
Speaker 1: some ways, I think it's great to start a business
Speaker 1: not trying to start a business, because you really are
Speaker 1: focused on just like having fun in the content. And
Speaker 1: I think that that really is what appeals to people
Speaker 1: when you know what I mean, you're not like immediately
Speaker 1: figuring out how to monetize or how to make money.
Speaker 1: Like we were just seniors in college just kind of
Speaker 1: like trying to make sense of the world around us. Um,
Speaker 1: And it really just naturally came out of that, and
Speaker 1: then you know, we were like it got some traction
Speaker 1: and we were like this seems better than getting a
Speaker 1: real job, so let's just keep doing this. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, I think that you see
Speaker 1: on Instagram everything looks like it's like overnight success or
Speaker 1: like really linear linear progress. But like the truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is like there's a lot of highs and
Speaker 1: lows and it's not really like it's not just like
Speaker 1: everything you do is a success. Everything you see online
Speaker 1: like there's usually like five things that didn't work out
Speaker 1: behind it. Um. So it has been a journey, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's great to be here and looking back and it's
Speaker 1: just pretty incredible. Yeah, did you ever have a moment
Speaker 1: where you thought it wasn't gonna work? Totally? A lot
Speaker 1: of times, I think, especially in those early years, um,
Speaker 1: we weren't really making that much money, and I remember thinking, um,
Speaker 1: you know, should I just get a job from someone
Speaker 1: who's just going to pay me a steady salary because
Speaker 1: this is very you know, unpredictable, and I have like
Speaker 1: a rent to pay and I don't want to live
Speaker 1: in my parents house anymore. Um, So there was definitely
Speaker 1: moments that I thought of that. But thankfully, you know,
Speaker 1: the three of us are friends and we've always been
Speaker 1: able to really encourage each other and sort of like
Speaker 1: get past those moments and stick it out. And now
Speaker 1: it all worked out. So glad we're glad we didn't well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the reason I asked is because as a as
Speaker 1: a new business owner, my wife and I just opened
Speaker 1: up a coffee shop and lounge. I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: there are like so many nights where I'm like it's
Speaker 1: gonna fail and I'm going to ruin my family and
Speaker 1: it's all going to go to ship. Um, And obviously
Speaker 1: I guess my question is and I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of business owners go through similar situations to that.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to really bring up the idea that,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's all not just glits and glamor,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't all it's not just always successful, like
Speaker 1: you had probably a lot of moments. You've created one
Speaker 1: of the biggest companies, you know, in the world, I
Speaker 1: would argue and and then, um, you know you. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you had moments that you were like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing and I'm not sure if this
Speaker 1: is gonna work out. And I think that's important for
Speaker 1: a lot of people to hear. And I think that,
Speaker 1: like you, uh, younger people a lot of the times
Speaker 1: have like a very skewed vision of what it looks
Speaker 1: like because you only see the things that work out.
Speaker 1: So you just kind of assume some people like have
Speaker 1: it figured it out and other people don't. And I
Speaker 1: think everyone is kind of like trying to do the
Speaker 1: best they can and it's not like this person successful
Speaker 1: in this person isn't. It's kind of like you only
Speaker 1: can compare yourself to yourself and just keep going and
Speaker 1: trying as hard as you can. So you host a
Speaker 1: podcast called You Up which first is fantastic. Now you
Speaker 1: host it with Jared Freed, is it Freed it right? Yes?
Speaker 1: The other Yes, the other Jared, the way funnier Jared,
Speaker 1: and the way cooler Jared. I met him briefly one time.
Speaker 1: He was super nice. And obviously I watched his Bachelor
Speaker 1: recaps where he's screaming into the phone and it's it's
Speaker 1: the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1: And that's not hyperpoly. I you with Ashley all the time,
Speaker 1: and um, so I want to ask Genevieve is on
Speaker 1: the podcast today and and she's single, recently off the
Speaker 1: most recent season of The Bachelor. So georgana, what the
Speaker 1: hell is dating like? Because I'm married now, I've been
Speaker 1: married for a few years, so I'm out of the
Speaker 1: dating game. What the hell is dating like? In two
Speaker 1: and how can Genevieve navigate this world? It's a very
Speaker 1: broad question. That's like just a huge umbrella. And then
Speaker 1: you go, here's exactly here's what to do. Um. I
Speaker 1: mean to be honest, I am also married. I got
Speaker 1: married in November. Um, and congratulations to you by the
Speaker 1: way on your baby like huge, also huge. I haven't
Speaker 1: even gotten a chance that I'm a huge Bachelor fan,
Speaker 1: huge plant fan of you and Ashley and you know,
Speaker 1: the whole the whole thing. I've been a watcher. So
Speaker 1: we used to do recaps on batch is actually, um,
Speaker 1: like the three of us, the three founders, used to
Speaker 1: write them ourselves and we would like write them and
Speaker 1: then send them to each other and edit and then
Speaker 1: we spent probably spent like six hours writing these Bachelor
Speaker 1: recaps in the beginning of Batches a week and it
Speaker 1: was like our favorite thing to do. UM. So huge
Speaker 1: fans of the franchise and you guys. Um. In terms
Speaker 1: of dating, bringing back to that question, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't necessarily been in the game in
Speaker 1: a bit, but I we What we do on you
Speaker 1: Up is we answer emails from daters across the country
Speaker 1: of all different ages and uh, you know, all different
Speaker 1: relationships status is, And I mean it really depends on
Speaker 1: like what you're looking to get out of, like what
Speaker 1: your dilemma is. Do you feel like you have a
Speaker 1: specific dilemma? No, I don't. I think I'm just trying,
Speaker 1: like I haven't found the one, like I since I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I've been saying I want a family,
Speaker 1: I want kids. I want to be a wife, and
Speaker 1: it just hasn't marked out. Like I think if I
Speaker 1: had found my person years ago, I would be married
Speaker 1: right now, hopefully with a kid. But it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, is it. Do you feel like the guy
Speaker 1: is that you're seeing that you're dating or not just
Speaker 1: not matches for you, or do you feel like you
Speaker 1: have like three month ors that kind of like fizzle out,
Speaker 1: or like what do you feel like is like the
Speaker 1: common theme within common theme in the past, like three
Speaker 1: years living in l A's just the guys are just
Speaker 1: not I don't click with them after such an East
Speaker 1: Coaster and it's so different out there, and the guys
Speaker 1: are very different, and they're all like they just don't
Speaker 1: want to settle down, and I want to. So I
Speaker 1: think maybe that's like a problem. So are you finding
Speaker 1: this out that they're not looking to settle down on
Speaker 1: like date date one two, or you like dating them
Speaker 1: for a while. No, I won't even continue No, I'll
Speaker 1: find that out on date one or two. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: I want to continue on with them, because that's just
Speaker 1: a waste of my time. I've learned. One good thing
Speaker 1: is I've learned to not waste my time. If I
Speaker 1: know it's not someone, I'm not going to keep going
Speaker 1: on dates with them. I think that's a huge thing
Speaker 1: to learn, and I think you should give yourself a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that, because there's a lot of people,
Speaker 1: my my former single self included, that used to just
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time just trying to like make
Speaker 1: everything whole thing work despite all the signs in front
Speaker 1: of me that like the person was like not going
Speaker 1: to be interested in something serious, or that they weren't
Speaker 1: going to be like looking for a commitment. And I
Speaker 1: think if you can figure out how to like wead
Speaker 1: that out a lot earlier, which it sounds like you
Speaker 1: um have figured out, you save yourself so much time
Speaker 1: and then it just becomes really like a numbers game. Um.
Speaker 1: But do you feel like you're you're kind of like
Speaker 1: disillusioned with the dating scene or you, um like, how
Speaker 1: you like, how do you do you get excited to
Speaker 1: go on dates? Or are you kind of like it
Speaker 1: feels like a chore? No, because I think it's been
Speaker 1: so long that I've enjoyed going on a date because
Speaker 1: like usually it's not great. But um, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not I haven't been on a date. I haven't dated
Speaker 1: like really since I got off the show, but before
Speaker 1: I was trying like dating apps and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: never got excited about going like meeting, like setting a plan,
Speaker 1: getting ready going to meet someone just to see if
Speaker 1: I like them. But that's also on me because I
Speaker 1: haven't been very proactive and trying to date. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we see that a lot too, and like
Speaker 1: the emails from our audience on you Up and that
Speaker 1: kind of thing where it can feel like not fun
Speaker 1: and kind of tiring, and then you're just not in
Speaker 1: this like positive mood about it. And we like to
Speaker 1: say there's almost like a spectrum of being a data
Speaker 1: um where you want to be in between it. So
Speaker 1: there's like the there's the people who were like a
Speaker 1: little naive and delusional and every guy there they meet
Speaker 1: there like he's perfect and like they're ignoring all the
Speaker 1: signs so that they're not particularly interested. And then on
Speaker 1: the other side of the spectrum, there's like that kind
Speaker 1: of like bitter like I've been around the block, like
Speaker 1: he's not going to call, like a little bit negative attitude,
Speaker 1: and I think they're both kind of not great in
Speaker 1: their own way. And the goal I think is to
Speaker 1: be somewhere in the middle where you're sort of like
Speaker 1: realistically optimistic. But I think if you're not having fun,
Speaker 1: I would take a break personally, because like I feel
Speaker 1: like if you're showing up to a date and you're
Speaker 1: not excited to be there and you're not even if again,
Speaker 1: and I think you have to have like pretty low expectations,
Speaker 1: Like the expectation could just be like an interesting conversation
Speaker 1: with a new person that I don't know that like
Speaker 1: might be able to stay something kind of funny or interesting. Um.
Speaker 1: And I can see why if you're going on for
Speaker 1: those a week you're like, this isn't fun anymore. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think the idea would be like to take
Speaker 1: a break to go back when you're like I miss
Speaker 1: going on dates. I'm like a little excited at the
Speaker 1: idea of like meeting someone new. Um. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would recommend, thank you. Yeah. No, And I actually
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said something wrong, but I
Speaker 1: actually haven't been going on dates. I'm going on for
Speaker 1: even one day a week. Um, So I think I've
Speaker 1: taken too much of a break. Now now I'm not
Speaker 1: like I'm like, okay, well I'm not used to going
Speaker 1: on dates, so now I have to get myself to
Speaker 1: start trying. I think because I kind of have the
Speaker 1: opposite problem where I'm just I haven't been on any
Speaker 1: and I have no desire to. But so the idea
Speaker 1: of a date doesn't like excite you. I think it's
Speaker 1: just because I don't know if I liked if I
Speaker 1: meet someone out and I enjoy like talking to them
Speaker 1: for a little and then they asked me how to
Speaker 1: d I think I would be excited for that. But
Speaker 1: it's just like the dating apps. When I don't know
Speaker 1: people face to face and I'm just like messaging them
Speaker 1: to get ready and go out to meet them, it's
Speaker 1: not the most exciting for me. I don't like it
Speaker 1: because you can't tell the I always say, like, you
Speaker 1: can't really tell chemistry until you're like in person, like
Speaker 1: you could take It's really almost like you could talk.
Speaker 1: You could tax someone for a whole week and think
Speaker 1: it's going well, and then you see them with five
Speaker 1: minutes you know, like it's just you don't it's not
Speaker 1: a vibe. So I totally understand that. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: it's like tough because I don't want to be meeting
Speaker 1: I don't want to go on four dates a week.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think technology is just ruining
Speaker 1: relationships and love and ruining life. Well, I I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm being facetious, but I agree and disagree a little
Speaker 1: bit one because I think in a lot of way,
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, it helps you can connect with
Speaker 1: people you've never connected with before. You can date people
Speaker 1: like you go on a dating app, right, like back
Speaker 1: in forty fifty years ago, it was like you just
Speaker 1: dated whoever was in your neighborhood to wherever you work with,
Speaker 1: and now you can like date people from all over
Speaker 1: the world. Having said that, the problem is, I feel
Speaker 1: that like sometimes in this instant gratification world that we have,
Speaker 1: like if you don't get like a like a non
Speaker 1: instant gratification, but like I feel like people just like
Speaker 1: almost romanticized love a little bit too much, which, as
Speaker 1: a guy coming from the Bachelor franchise, is a little hypocritical,
Speaker 1: But I digress, because sometimes it's not going to be
Speaker 1: good and sometimes it's gonna be bad, and I feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes people just forget that if it's not always good,
Speaker 1: then they feel like, oh, well, then this obviously isn't
Speaker 1: the person for me, and I haven't met the one yet.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, maybe you have, but maybe there's just
Speaker 1: certain things that you need to work through. And it's
Speaker 1: a balance, right because if the if the bad outweighs
Speaker 1: the good, then of course, like yeah, break up. If
Speaker 1: you're not having fun, then get the hell out of
Speaker 1: the relationship. But I also feel like I've heard from
Speaker 1: so many of my younger friends where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: everything is great, but there's this one thing and I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can get past it. And it's
Speaker 1: like I just feel like there's always gonna be a
Speaker 1: one thing, Like there's always going to be that one
Speaker 1: thing no matter who you meet. Totally agree, um, And
Speaker 1: I think you know, we live in a it's only
Speaker 1: marriage has only really been about like romantic love for
Speaker 1: even probably like seventy or so years if that, And
Speaker 1: so before that, I think people weren't getting married or
Speaker 1: looking for dating or meeting people looking for someone to
Speaker 1: fill every single box that they have like they are now.
Speaker 1: Like I think now people assume there's someone out there
Speaker 1: that's completely perfect, and that's just not the case. Like
Speaker 1: we're not perfect. People we meet aren't perfect. The goal
Speaker 1: is to not find someone who like checks every single box.
Speaker 1: It's someone who you can get along with, who shares
Speaker 1: your values. But if you have certain things that you
Speaker 1: don't that you aren't a eye to eye on, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you need to throw in the towel.
Speaker 1: I think that, like, you can have many people in
Speaker 1: your life whople feel all sorts of different needs for you.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see where marriage goes over the next
Speaker 1: seventy years. So just because like you said, I think
Speaker 1: marriage has evolved. It's changed like it used to be
Speaker 1: for social status or for for protection, and you would
Speaker 1: marry someone because it's just like the way life went.
Speaker 1: That's how you survived. And then obviously it has changed
Speaker 1: now into more loving and soulmates and uh, you want
Speaker 1: to like commit to someone for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious now with obviously like the VORTS rates
Speaker 1: going up and people being single single later in life,
Speaker 1: if it's going to evolve in another seventy years where
Speaker 1: people are just not getting married as much anymore because
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I do want to commit to someone,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if I want to commit for
Speaker 1: my entire life. And I also don't know if I
Speaker 1: want to bring paperwork into it. So I'm curious if
Speaker 1: like the the the like the culture around malle marriage.
Speaker 1: I sounded like the priest from that movie. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what's the movie with Carl Yules, he's the princess bride. Marriage. Yes, yes, marriage.
Speaker 1: It sounds familiar. But I don't remember what you're saying, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I do. I remember that you did a
Speaker 1: good impression. I remember that, Thank you. I appreciate it. Marriage.
Speaker 1: Georgiana was telling Genevieve earlier that, uh, now that I
Speaker 1: own the coffee shop, like I hiart a lot of
Speaker 1: college kids, there's a generational gap, like I feel. So
Speaker 1: I'm not old, but man, do I feel old. Ashley
Speaker 1: was there last night too, and she's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever felt older in my life, just being
Speaker 1: surrounded by like twenty two year olds who just they
Speaker 1: think they think like Taylor Swift is old. It's so funny. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the new gen Z has a
Speaker 1: whole new set of of thoughts on tradition and and
Speaker 1: anything that's really like traditional or like And I think
Speaker 1: it's good in a way because I think they're really
Speaker 1: reevaluating these these practices that were put in place in
Speaker 1: a time or it doesn't really make necessarily the same
Speaker 1: amount of sense that it did before. But I do
Speaker 1: think that there is there are many benefits to I'm
Speaker 1: pro marriage. I do think there are many benefits to
Speaker 1: marriage and long term relationships. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: about like you said, I don't really believe in soulmates.
Speaker 1: I don't even really believe in the one. But I
Speaker 1: do believe in finding a partner that you that you
Speaker 1: love and that you enjoy spending time with, and that
Speaker 1: you can see has the qualities to like raise children
Speaker 1: and and be a good partner long term. Because I
Speaker 1: do think the beauty of marriage, and the thing that
Speaker 1: won't ever really get outdated is the idea of like
Speaker 1: being able to go through life with someone and experience
Speaker 1: all those highs and lows with the same person. And
Speaker 1: I think that that's like a bond. You can't really
Speaker 1: find anywhere else someone to to to seeing like the
Speaker 1: really bad parts and the really good parts, And they
Speaker 1: were there twenty years ago when you were doing this,
Speaker 1: and now they're in this phase of life with you,
Speaker 1: like it's a partner to really go through all the
Speaker 1: phases with. And I think that like anything else, it
Speaker 1: probably has its it's points when it's not great. And
Speaker 1: then I think if you can like kind of get
Speaker 1: through those and you can stay with that person and
Speaker 1: you can do you get to know them even probably
Speaker 1: better through those phases, then it just makes that bond
Speaker 1: much stronger. And that I don't I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: marriage will go away completely ever, because I do think
Speaker 1: that's just like a huge important thing in society and
Speaker 1: just in for your own mental health. I think that
Speaker 1: relationships you're like a humans are like dependent people. They're
Speaker 1: codependent and that's not a bad thing. And I think
Speaker 1: that like the idea of it is is still something
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be discarded. Yeah, I think you said it
Speaker 1: really well. Damn when did you start matches? I started
Speaker 1: betches my senior year in college, um, with my two
Speaker 1: roommates in all right, here's another big umbrella question. I
Speaker 1: was dating changed since then? I was dating changed? Well,
Speaker 1: when I was in college age there were no dating apps,
Speaker 1: so obviously yeah, big change. Um. And I remember when
Speaker 1: Tinder was launched in like what was it. So it's
Speaker 1: the year after we graduated and we were like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is this and every single part it was
Speaker 1: like a brunch and like every single person had downloaded
Speaker 1: this app and it was like so fun. We were
Speaker 1: all just like swiping away. We were like, this is
Speaker 1: the coolest thing that's ever existed. And now, um, ten
Speaker 1: years later it's we're probably like like, like I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like the novelty kind
Speaker 1: of feels like it is more and off for that,
Speaker 1: but the idea of it at the time was like
Speaker 1: so fun. And I do agree with you with what
Speaker 1: you were saying before, Jared about how um, you know,
Speaker 1: dating apps aren't all bad. Um, every generation probably thinks
Speaker 1: their generation is the worst to date in. But I
Speaker 1: do think there's so many benefits of dating apps. There's
Speaker 1: so many ways to meet people you would have never
Speaker 1: met in a different way. And also just like screen
Speaker 1: it's it's great to be able to like screen people
Speaker 1: in certain ways before you commit to them, and dating
Speaker 1: apps give you a lot of information. Um, So I
Speaker 1: think if you use them well. And we actually had
Speaker 1: a guest Um worked for a match group, Dr Helen
Speaker 1: Fisher on our podcast, and she was like, the best
Speaker 1: way to use dating apps is introduction apps, So they're
Speaker 1: not you shouldn't be like dating on them. You should
Speaker 1: just use them and not be speaking to any more
Speaker 1: than like six people at a time. I think she
Speaker 1: said six was like the max, because you can't really
Speaker 1: get to know people if you're having thirty different conversations
Speaker 1: on an app. You need to like keep it to
Speaker 1: a more narrow pool so that you can get off
Speaker 1: the app, meet them in person, and then find out
Speaker 1: if there's actually connection. Yeah, there's only so much multitasking
Speaker 1: one person can do. Exactly that point, because I have
Speaker 1: noticed that one of the dating apps will actually the
Speaker 1: only one I'm on Riya. They they actually don't let
Speaker 1: you have too many connections because of that reason. They
Speaker 1: don't want you to not meet any of the people
Speaker 1: and just have like thirty matches and not talk to
Speaker 1: any of them. And I have found that with other
Speaker 1: dating apps, like I'll have so many matches, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do, and I can't meet up with
Speaker 1: all of them, so then they kind of end up
Speaker 1: not meeting up with any of them. So keeping it
Speaker 1: like smaller and focusing on like a few people. I
Speaker 1: think it's smart totally. Um. I heard Jared I think
Speaker 1: was on Right at one point and he was telling me,
Speaker 1: um that no one speaks right. They're just like it
Speaker 1: is kind. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. App Um. If anything,
Speaker 1: it is like you'll just say high and then it's
Speaker 1: like do you want to meet for coffee something like that.
Speaker 1: But no one, it's not like you have like a
Speaker 1: long cars I've never had a long conversation on there.
Speaker 1: It's not like a formal date. Um, have you tried
Speaker 1: any do you feel like is that the only one
Speaker 1: you've ever been on? Have you ever? Have you tried?
Speaker 1: I've tried all of them. And I moved to Lane.
Speaker 1: I was on bumble and Hinge and I was going
Speaker 1: on like three dates a day, like day you went
Speaker 1: to a breakfast, lunch and dinner day. Bought this for
Speaker 1: my when I was interviewing for the best. She's on
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, her own making of it. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: would have breakfast, lunch and dinner set up and and
Speaker 1: then I just didn't like anyone and it just got
Speaker 1: so tiring. And when do you hate dating? That sounds terrible? Charity,
Speaker 1: you don't know any guys you can set her up with.
Speaker 1: To me, set ups are the best. Now all my
Speaker 1: Rhode Island friends are taken, which is very depressing. Also
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for them, but without the same thing.
Speaker 1: When Ashley and I got together, she had a single
Speaker 1: friend and it was like, who can we hook her
Speaker 1: up with? And I'm like, all, like the guys that
Speaker 1: I would hook up my friends with are all taken. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's another suggestion I have for you. Like,
Speaker 1: I think that if you go out and you're like
Speaker 1: a fun person to be around and you have a
Speaker 1: positive attitude, You're gonna be around people. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: people even if they're not the like, even if they're
Speaker 1: not single themselves like they I personally am always I
Speaker 1: love setting people up. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 1: dating and I love setting anyone up. I like this,
Speaker 1: My like my thrill is just seeing two people connect
Speaker 1: and I have like connected them, um so and I
Speaker 1: you know, So one thing I would suggest is just
Speaker 1: like if I meet someone out and they're just like
Speaker 1: a fun single person, I'm like, I'm immediately just thinking
Speaker 1: in my head, like who could I have for them?
Speaker 1: So I think that is like a big, big part
Speaker 1: of it, or speaking to any friends or guy friends
Speaker 1: you have, and it can seem weird to like put
Speaker 1: yourself out there being like, oh, I'm like I'm single,
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking. If you know anyone that would be
Speaker 1: you think would be a good match for me, definitely
Speaker 1: send them my way. I think that a lot of
Speaker 1: the times, like it is a very underrated way to
Speaker 1: meet people, and people kind of feel like it's like
Speaker 1: weird or desperate seeming to say that, But I think
Speaker 1: that it's like a great if you're you're go into
Speaker 1: it and you're super positive, that's the best way to
Speaker 1: meet someone, especially via someone who kind of like knows
Speaker 1: you and knows your vibe and knows someone you'd get
Speaker 1: along with, right right, Yeah, that is true. Friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you hear a lot of friends of friends.
Speaker 1: That's how you met, That's what people met. That's how
Speaker 1: I met my husband. Yeah yeah, yeah, your friend had
Speaker 1: your back exactly. Well. I was like third wheeling her
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend a lot, and she thinks she was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get her out of here. Jordana, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on all your success. It's an incredible story. Everybody listening,
Speaker 1: go listen to you up a great podcast that you
Speaker 1: host with Jared. By the way, tell Jared I said hello,
Speaker 1: and then he's got a big fan from another Jared
Speaker 1: Um Jared to Jared's Yeah, I was gonna make a
Speaker 1: dirty joke. I can't do it on air. Uh Georgana.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. You're the best, Um.
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