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Speaker 3: Rob g Let's jump in.

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Speaker 1: We already know JJ McCarthy got hurt for the Vikings

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Speaker 1: and now Carson Wentz will start in his stead, but long.

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Speaker 3: Term, because you're gonna miss a number of weeks. It's

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Speaker 3: not just this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, first off, up to five starters could be

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Speaker 4: out in week three. Joe Burrow we already know is out.

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy starting QBS starting QB Onece Rock Perty to

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Speaker 4: be determined, Justin Fields out, Jaden Daniels to be determined.

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Speaker 4: But based on the early leanings, it's looking like all

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Speaker 4: five of those guys will be out. But you mentioned

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, ESPN NFL insiders, Jeremy Fowler, Dan Graziano do

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Speaker 4: great work.

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Speaker 3: They published their weekly buzzed them for like a million years.

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Speaker 4: Publish their weekly Buzz column earlier on Wednesday, and in

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Speaker 4: it they talked about JJ McCarthy on what's going on

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Speaker 4: with Minnesota. In it, they floated the idea about, hey,

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Speaker 4: what happens if Carson Wentz is good?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: What if he's good and JJ's he's hurt more than

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Speaker 4: we think, or wait, we'll just send him out.

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Speaker 5: So here's what Graziano said in the piece quote.

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Speaker 4: I think the team really believes he's at the stage

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Speaker 4: of his development talking about j where he needs to play,

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Speaker 4: and I would expect him to get the job back

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Speaker 4: once he's healthy. But if Carson Wentz has them humming,

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Speaker 4: it'd be worth wondering whether or not they would stick

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Speaker 4: with him. Talking about Wentz moving forward.

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Speaker 3: To me, this is a pretty simple cut and draw.

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Speaker 1: And if Wentz is playing outrageous and they're winning and

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Speaker 1: they got a street going, then Carson Wentz will stayed

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Speaker 1: a quarterback for now, and you'll bring along JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: who's a young quarterback. You got time, you're not gonna win.

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Speaker 1: How many games could he miss? Rob Ge?

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Speaker 5: Right now?

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Speaker 1: The lean is three to four, okay, And so so

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz lights it up for four games they went

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Speaker 1: all four, they're feeling good, they're rolling. There's a chance

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna stick with a guy like that who

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Speaker 1: almost won an MVP, had really some good times in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and all that, and lost his job because

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Speaker 1: he got hurt, right basically, and then when he got healthy,

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Speaker 1: he got it back. So that's not to say that

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Speaker 1: they're moving off of or Carson Wentz is the long term.

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Speaker 1: If it's just two and two and average play and

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Speaker 1: JJ's ready, he'll go back. In the only way that

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Speaker 1: to me, Wentce, you know, Wennsylvania Wentz in a lifetime

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Speaker 1: lights out, four and oh twelve touchdowns, no picks. You know,

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Speaker 1: you don't pull that guy out if somebody's playing well.

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Speaker 1: But if it's it's just standard regular, you know, two

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Speaker 1: and two, five hundred, he's doing all right, then as

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Speaker 1: soon as your starter's back, I'm ready, you put him in.

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Speaker 3: We are in the JJ McCarthy experiment at this point.

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Speaker 6: To your point, Carson Wentz would have to be playing

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Speaker 6: all right, this is incredible.

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Speaker 3: Nobody saw this coming. Let's roll the dice. And see

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Speaker 6: See if we can pull something like the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 6: something like that off, which I don't expect to happen.

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Speaker 6: I expected to be find he's a good backup in

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Speaker 6: So that's what I expect from him. But they're in

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Speaker 6: the JJ McCarthy business. They traded to get the tenth pick,

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Speaker 6: They moved up to get him tenth pick. And you know,

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Speaker 6: So one of the things that I think we're seeing

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Speaker 6: But what made the pick interesting is when you look

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Speaker 6: at rob the production or lackterof for JJ McCarthy. So

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Speaker 6: he was putting up around three hundred and fifty seven

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, well, hear me out, So all I'm

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Speaker 6: saying is he didn't have that production to then automatically

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Speaker 1: Think anything that has to do with the stats from college.

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Speaker 1: guys weren't in it. I know you watched, but but

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Speaker 6: Would you admit that, I think back to the original

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Buddy threw two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So so I'm just saying people, Oh, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: you know people trashed him in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he can't play and were ready to dismiss him.

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't.

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Speaker 1: They made a mistake. That's how quick it was. And

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is I don't blame his college numbers

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Speaker 3: And I just.

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Speaker 1: Believe to me that this is more about They wouldn't

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Speaker 6: This is what makes it weird, though, Ron, that they

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Speaker 6: Damn got Aaron Rodgers and say hey with another year Tutelitch,

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Speaker 6: one more year for JJ to learn up under this.

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Speaker 6: They had other options. That's why I know they're in

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Speaker 1: Four and oh and he has twelve touchdowns and no picks.

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Speaker 1: They're not going that's insane. But like what you're asking

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Speaker 4: So we know that this Kawhi Leonard situation has been

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Speaker 4: Is the clippers blockbuster twenty nineteen acquisition of Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 4: League Office and the rest of the NBA. Since twenty

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Speaker 1: Another jealous former employee go ahead in the article. Quote

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you read the article here, a lot

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Speaker 5: Here's what he said. Quote.

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Speaker 4: This last investigation, talking about the aspiration one is different.

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Speaker 4: This one directly calls into question Steve Balmer's character. At

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Speaker 5: They're done building around him. They know that he knows that.

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Speaker 4: So guys, really easy question right off the rip. If

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Speaker 4: Should the Clippers get out of the Kawhi business closed?

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Speaker 6: Shot, closed, out of business, grant opening, grand closing. For me,

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Speaker 6: I've had enough. If I'm Steve Bamer, we gave it

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Speaker 3: We did everything he wanted.

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Speaker 6: Uncle Dennis wanted, Uncle Bob, uncle Jim, uncle Auntie, whoever.

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Speaker 6: We did everything the family wanted. And what did we get?

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Speaker 6: What's the ROI? What is our return on investment? That

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Speaker 3: You just mentioned I think.

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Speaker 6: You might be spotting him a percentage when you say

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's playing.

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Speaker 3: Fifty eight. He played thirty one games last season. There

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Speaker 6: He didn't play but nine games. He's hurt, just doing

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Speaker 6: It's not as if he's got any MVPs for it.

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Speaker 6: He's gotten any notoriety, any fame, anymore lights, anymore bright.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't bread go about the organization. If you read

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Speaker 6: He tells them, you can't bring my name up, you

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Speaker 3: That's raw.

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Speaker 6: Rod makes everybody want to come watch the team and

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Speaker 6: to me, he didn't bring any bright lights. The only

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Speaker 3: Went healthy.

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Speaker 6: But it's time to move on. I have nothing new

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Speaker 6: game from it. If I'm Steve Baumber, I'm invested. I've

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Speaker 6: done things. There's alleged things that may have, may not happen.

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Speaker 6: We'll have see whatever happens in the investigation. I've done

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Speaker 6: all I can do. I got a new arena over here.

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Speaker 6: I didn't sign brought play you wanted Paul George, he

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Speaker 6: got Paul George. Here, got rid of SGA, who's not

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Speaker 3: It's time to move on.

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Speaker 6: This version of the Clippers ain't even wasn't even more

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Speaker 6: entertaining than Love City. Love City at least was more entertaining,

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Speaker 6: aspirations for the Love City Clippers. So Kawhi Leonard heck

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Speaker 6: of a player, heck of a talent, And it's okay

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Speaker 6: to cut ties and move on, cutting ties like I'm

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Speaker 6: cutting his car rolls. I'm moving on, So I'm out

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Speaker 6: of it. I've tried it. I need to move on.

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Speaker 6: If I'm Steve Bomer, if I'm Tylu, we gotta move on.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what if you read further into

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Speaker 6: that story, you just never know. He never tells you information.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't talk to you. He tells you, in fact,

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Speaker 6: don't worry about this, don't do this. I have the

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Speaker 6: not do that. Too many stipulations. I'm good, I'm moving on.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, God, bless you. I'll holla.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't disagree more? Are you kidding me? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Steve Balmer understands there's a he didn't have to win

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Speaker 1: eight championships.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to win.

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Speaker 1: He is banking on the idea that he can just

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Speaker 1: get one, that's all. He has one, less than Lebron

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Speaker 1: who's been here. The Lakers have given Lebron everything, made

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Speaker 1: all these trades, brought in Luca. They couldn't even get

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Speaker 1: out of the first round. Right that's when Luca what

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Speaker 1: Lebron couldn't even get out of first round. Everybody had

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Speaker 1: winning one. That's all that Steve Balmer wants to win.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that takes his one, and if he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to run it back and hope that maybe

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Speaker 1: I get it, He's not healthy all the time. And

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Speaker 1: he's tremendous. He's worth the price of admission. He's that

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Speaker 1: feel good if you're Steve Balmer, that you were able

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Speaker 1: but to go to the little brother, no matter what

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Speaker 1: it is. And you could you could not cohie for

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Speaker 1: whatever the late the Clippers were the ones who broke

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Speaker 1: the rules if they did, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And all that other thing.

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Speaker 1: You could ask for the moon, Okay, you could have

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Speaker 1: been a winner. This is where I challenge you. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he doesn't want to win. I think he

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Speaker 1: I tell you what that means. He comes with too

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not being heard, but that's elation. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: to play this. I'm not playing backspack. I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 6: Too many knots when I'm trying to win. It's too

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Speaker 6: this not a minute, or might have to play you

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Speaker 6: these games. It's too much that comes into try to

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Speaker 6: win a championship. You said a couple of things. I

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Speaker 6: don't like the fact that you're if I'm baking on

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Speaker 6: I'm baking on Bradley Beal. No deal, it ain't happening,

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Speaker 6: that's what this is absolutely not happening. And I know

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Speaker 6: You got a championship with Lester, which is questionable.

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Speaker 1: You got a championship, you got you got, that's the

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Speaker 6: You got it years when Lebron would even make the

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Speaker 6: watch watch this, and and I've got you that watch this.

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Speaker 6: I got a championship. I got all types of more

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Speaker 3: That's getting stars.

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Speaker 6: And then because of Lebron, I get a D and

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Speaker 1: I still had Lebron's performance here, this is what you

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Speaker 6: But you got the one. If you're the Lakers, and

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Speaker 6: if you're the Clippers, that was the whole point.

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Speaker 3: The Clippers won, all they need is won. They're not

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Speaker 6: And now the guy that you gave up to get

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Speaker 3: And so my thing is, I can't separate the tay.

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Speaker 6: If you said it, don't I cool with that far fetches?

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Speaker 6: Come on, that's not crazy. No, that's not crazy. It

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Speaker 3: Don't win back to back. But that's not teams don't

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Speaker 1: Just like somebody would have told you, okay, se winning

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Speaker 3: What I mean, I'm already that many years. I'm in

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Speaker 1: But he hasn't been fully healthy and he won't rod

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Speaker 1: That's the possibly my issue.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't been fully high can separate.

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Speaker 1: All I need is one year of a fully healthy

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Speaker 6: That ain't Nothing you just said is that he's never

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Speaker 3: That's not even like I would love for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll never fully healthy.

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Speaker 6: I mean to play like a full James Harden never

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Speaker 6: I just don't see where they fit into this. And

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Speaker 6: I can't keep going along. I gave it's been long enough.

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Speaker 6: It's okay to we have knowing.

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Speaker 3: You have no plan, man, You know you can't you

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Speaker 3: selling ticket sponsorships? What are you talking about? What did

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Speaker 3: the idea. You don't know if you're gonna see the

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Speaker 3: idea that you're gonna get out of the kawhipe. I

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Speaker 3: see Kawhi today, roll these dice. Here we go. Oh,

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Speaker 3: crapped out. He's not playing.

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Speaker 8: That's called the NBA. You don't know what who started it?

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Speaker 8: You don't know who's the picture of it. Kawhi Leonards

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Speaker 8: he hurt. I don't know, Yeah I do. When I

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Speaker 8: look at load management, I see Kawhi some corn. That's

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Speaker 8: what I see. What is load's management?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Is me and the fun guy that is load management? No,

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Speaker 3: it's not. The load management did not start there where

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Speaker 3: they start. It didn't start with cars with him, No,

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Speaker 3: it did not. It was Tim Duncan and those other guy.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't let me get that. No, that's not me. No, no,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't let me become the poster child for one

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Speaker 3: old man. It was once he got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Hey Rob g uh. There was some Dodger fans baseball

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Speaker 3: fans who were not happy with Dave Roberts last night.

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Speaker 1: Not just because the Dodgers blew up what early four

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Speaker 1: nothing lead against the Phillies they lose at home uh

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. But Shohy was pitching and he had something

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Speaker 1: nice going to start the game. He had an't no

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Speaker 1: hitter going, no, no, no. He had only thrown sixty

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Speaker 1: eight pitches. Now, Otani since he's started this season, has

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Speaker 1: never gone beyond five innings.

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Speaker 5: I think that's been like a rule that they've had in.

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Speaker 3: So that was it.

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Speaker 5: He was behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: So according to Roberts himself, he has show in between

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Speaker 4: the fifth and sixth and he's like, hey, how you feeling,

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Speaker 4: and no, Tony said, I I'm good. We would assume

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Speaker 4: then that would mean he got out for the sixth inning. No,

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Speaker 4: nothing like that at all. Here's Dave Roberts after the

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Speaker 4: game explaining the decision to keep o Tani glued to

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Speaker 4: the pine in the fifth.

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Speaker 7: Well, he wasn't going to go back out. We haven't.

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Speaker 7: We've been very steadfast in every situation as far as

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Speaker 7: inning for his usage from one inning to two innings

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Speaker 7: to three to four to five. We haven't deviated from that.

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Speaker 7: So I was trying to get his pulse on for

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Speaker 7: going forward where he's at continuing to go to the

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Speaker 7: sixth inning, and he says, be okay, and so that

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Speaker 7: was good, But I'm not going to have a you know,

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Speaker 7: plan for five innings and then he pitches well and say, hey,

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Speaker 7: now you're going to go six innings and then you know,

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Speaker 7: he's too important and if something does happen, then that's

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Speaker 7: on me for changing and we haven't done that all year,

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Speaker 7: So I'm not going to do that right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I would have loved to have him go out there.

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Speaker 7: But if the conversation was if he's efficient, he can

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Speaker 7: go to the sixth inning, that's a different conversation. But

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Speaker 7: it was a hard five innings and that's just the

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Speaker 7: way it goes, and guys have got to do their jobs.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like this is where, you know, can we stop?

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Speaker 1: Like do you remember a few years back Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 1: had a perfect game going okay in the seventh through

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Speaker 1: seven innings and I think he only threw eighty pitches.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, and the idea was, oh no, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't want him to get hurt. They took him

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Speaker 1: out a perfect game, eighty pitchers through seven? Can he

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Speaker 1: start the eighth inning? Can he walk somebody? Can he

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Speaker 1: give up a head and then gladly he.

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Speaker 3: Can come out?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, why are you doing this? You're playing your

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Speaker 1: whole idea.

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Speaker 3: Guess what.

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Speaker 1: They took Kershaw out because they didn't want him to

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Speaker 1: get They said they you know, they were monitoring him.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to get hurt. Guess what.

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Speaker 1: Kershaw still got hurt that year cause because him pitching

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Speaker 1: another at batter or another inning is not going to determine.

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Speaker 3: Whether or not he's going to get hurt.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Otani the other day when

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Speaker 1: they gave up the no hitter in Baltimore. Yamamoto, Right,

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Speaker 1: he had thrown the most pitches he had thrown since

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Speaker 1: since joining the Dodgers. Why did they let he had

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Speaker 1: a no hitter? Let him finish it. Okay, gave up

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Speaker 1: the home run, he blew it. Whatever. The Dodgers wind

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Speaker 1: up actually losing that game. But my point is they

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Speaker 1: did go against what they were doing because he had

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Speaker 1: pitched the most pitches he had ever done. Right, could

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Speaker 1: you allow him to do something that's special? Even if

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Speaker 1: you let show a come out in the sixth inning

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Speaker 1: and he gives up a head or he walks somebody,

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Speaker 1: then I have no problem with you coming out saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's done.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: He could be doing something magical. I've been covering baseball

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Speaker 1: for thirty nine years. I think I've seen two no hit,

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Speaker 1: one perfect game, like that's that's it. In thirty nine years.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen very often. It's still a magical special thing.

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Speaker 1: Is this the NBA?

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Speaker 3: Now? Everything is about, Oh we can get heart. You

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Speaker 3: gotta be ready for the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Dude, stop it. If he's gonna get hurt, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get heard. It's not gonna be whether or not he

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Speaker 1: pitched another inning or two or gave up a hit

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Speaker 1: because he pitched into the seventh inning. This guy's the

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Speaker 1: starting pitcher in the big leagues. They've been babying he

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Speaker 1: didn't pitch at all last year. He didn't start the

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Speaker 1: year pitching. He'd been babying him for almost a year

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Speaker 1: and a half. Come on, now, okay, enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: Why can't he pitch more? And we keep cheating the

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Speaker 1: baseball fans, stop taking our special moments from us.

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Speaker 3: That's what they don't get.

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Speaker 1: I just told you, I go to a ballpark a

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Speaker 1: million times thirty nine years of covering, and I saw

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Speaker 1: one perfect game David Wells against the Minnesota Twins on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday at Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget it. You remember that that was That

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Speaker 3: was It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying is why why are we

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Speaker 1: getting cheated as fans? If someone's doing something unique or special,

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Speaker 1: that's it. So I'm gonna answer that question on the

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Speaker 1: back end. I'm gonna start with this specifically. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start specifically with the Dodgers. The Dodgers are a victim

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Speaker 1: of their own success. That is the issue that they're

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Speaker 1: dealing with.

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Speaker 6: They've been so successful over the last ten years, as

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Speaker 6: far as winning the division, getting in the postseason, getting

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Speaker 6: into what full World Series in the last you know,

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Speaker 6: eight years or so, and winning to and in the

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Speaker 6: most recent So I think the challenge with them is

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Speaker 6: they're a victim of their own success, where now they're

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Speaker 6: at that place where if it ain't a World Series,

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Speaker 6: it don't even matter. You get, oh wow, you made

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Speaker 6: to a Walker, don't even matter you made the divisional

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Speaker 6: series don't even Championship series don't. Did we win the

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Speaker 6: World Series? So they're now at that place where they're

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Speaker 6: just at a victim of their own success. So which

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Speaker 6: makes you start to do things based on that, based

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Speaker 6: on getting you back to the World Series. So now

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Speaker 6: let me go back to your question or your statement

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Speaker 6: of robbing fans. This is what happens when you have

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Speaker 6: analytics in the games. Analytics is a machine, It is

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Speaker 6: a AI, It is a chat GPT, CPT Compton I on.

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Speaker 6: That's something and what it is is it has what.

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Speaker 1: Is what time I get to the Stewish station have

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Speaker 1: to do with anything? I just don't understand you right now.

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Speaker 3: You can't say stuff like that right now. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: you can't say that like that right now? We have

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Speaker 3: some sensitive times, right rob g Yeah, we could say

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Speaker 3: CP time. I can't say M time. No, right, no,

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Speaker 3: you can't. Well, I get in trouble if I say that, no,

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Speaker 3: because you're talking about mountain time. Yeah, that's why I'm mad.

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Speaker 6: A mountain time. I got your back. Look, give me some,

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Speaker 6: give me some, give me some THATAP I got your

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Speaker 6: back Mountain time. Now Alex is just shaking it Alex,

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Speaker 6: are you all right over there? He's got over there

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Speaker 6: and make nervous for you. Now, I bring up the

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Speaker 6: analytics to say, that's just where we are. Now, rob

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Speaker 6: where everything look at. This is what happens. They put

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Speaker 6: the sheet already out. Here's every scenario. Here's what you're

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Speaker 6: gonna do, Skipper, fill in the blank, Dave, Robbers, anybody,

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Speaker 6: Here's what we're gonna do. This is the game plan.

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Speaker 6: Don't deviate, don't do this. Gone of the days when

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Speaker 6: you've been covering this, when I had a hunch, my

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Speaker 6: gut told me this. I had an inkling something told me,

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Speaker 6: you know, I felt it intwitter, my intuition said, no,

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Speaker 6: here's the sheet, here's what we're gonna do. Stick by

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Speaker 6: this because analytics say if X, Y and Z, this

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Speaker 6: will happen. Analytics say X Y Z, and it's robbed

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Speaker 6: us of those moments where you say, you know what, hey, hey, hey, hey, Skipper,

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Speaker 6: and you say, nah, let him go, let them go.

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Speaker 6: Let's enjoy these moments, because that's what sports is about.

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Speaker 6: The time you saw a guy get four home runs

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Speaker 6: in the game, the guy you saw, you saw, you

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Speaker 6: know so and so. Brett Farthrow five touchdowns in the

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Speaker 6: first half for his father passed. The time you saw

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Speaker 6: Michael Jordan with the fluga they can he looked too sick.

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Speaker 3: Pull him out exactly, you know, don't play him, Michael Joan,

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Speaker 3: Come sit down. You get these magical moments.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Isaiah Thomas, your ankle is broken and you're playing

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Speaker 6: against the Lakers. You put up twenty five in the

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Speaker 6: third quarter, could have no sit them down. We get

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Speaker 6: robbed of these moments because of dagone machines and a

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Speaker 6: bunch of nerds that happened to leave the business sector

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Speaker 6: in the IT sector and jump into sports.

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Speaker 3: Dan, you you nerds, right of amazing moments. I agree

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Speaker 3: as Revenge of the Nerds, like the movie in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense to me, Like like you,

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Speaker 1: with all that we talked about it earlier, even with

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Speaker 1: low management.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, guys still get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Right with all this idea, I'm not playing people and

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Speaker 1: all that, and it had that hadn't stopped Kawhi from

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Speaker 1: being injured again or stop other players, Kyrie, like like,

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Speaker 1: the whole notion of it doesn't even make sense. There

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Speaker 1: isn't any data to or to justify the actions. There's

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Speaker 1: no data. Just like I told you about Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, seventh thinning. We don't want him to

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Speaker 1: get hurt. We know we want him to the whole year.

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Speaker 1: He still got hurt that year, even though you took

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Speaker 1: him out after the seventh inning with a with a

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Speaker 1: perfect game and eighty eighty pitches like he wasn't over

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Speaker 1: like you're overdoing.

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Speaker 3: Nowadays.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eighty easy eighty. I mean he was mowing him

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Speaker 1: down a perfect game. No, let me walk the first

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Speaker 1: guy to seventh in the eighth and then you could take.

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Speaker 6: Me back, let me give up a hit. Seventies, eighties,

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Speaker 6: nineties pictures, you would have had to. You had to

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Speaker 6: fight for that ball down. The manager wouldn't even come out.

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Speaker 6: He gave hey man right now and nowadays again, it's

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Speaker 6: just a system.

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Speaker 3: It's systematic. We already know we're gonna do.

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Speaker 6: Once you get here, You're not going over sixty picture

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Speaker 6: because technically, and this is your fifth week of the

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Speaker 6: DA DA and our plan is this, and our plan

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Speaker 6: is that. And the only thing I will say specifically

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Speaker 6: specifically for the show, hey conversation, one thing I do

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Speaker 6: agree with is that when it comes to him, if

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Speaker 6: he were to get hurt, you don't just lose a

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Speaker 6: picture for a week, two weeks, a month. You lose

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Speaker 6: a potential dh a pitcher, and a potential outfielder because

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Speaker 6: they've talked about through how to rules and if he pitches, well,

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Speaker 6: he can't come out the game, so you have to

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Speaker 6: put them put him on the defensive, so you pose

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Speaker 6: the potential that with him. So I'm only using him

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Speaker 6: different than any other guy because he's multi layered.

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Speaker 1: I get, but you could be heard under any short

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Speaker 1: he got hurt last year in the World Series, like

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Speaker 1: you could get heard. This whole notion that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: prevent someone from getting heard by because he didn't pitch

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Speaker 1: the seventh inning.

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Speaker 3: He goes running hard the first and choices. That's all

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like that happens, Like you can't There is no magic

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Speaker 1: formula to say if you don't pitch him in the

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Speaker 1: sixth inning of a no hitter or a seventh inning,

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Speaker 1: he'll be healthy the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: If you could give me that, that's different. But that's

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Speaker 3: not what he happened. That's where I'm agreeing with you.

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Speaker 6: The problem is the nerds are doing the mathematical equations

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Speaker 6: and they say, if he has x amount of pitches

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Speaker 6: per inning of the nine starts of the tenth, then

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Speaker 6: they do all the math and then they come up

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Speaker 6: with a formula and it's formulaic. And you know what

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Speaker 6: comes with formula boring? And you know what baseball became

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Speaker 6: halfull of years ago, boring because it was strikeout or

686
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Speaker 6: home run, that's all it was. Nobody was trying to

687
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Speaker 6: do advanced runners. Nobody was still in bases. No guys

688
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Speaker 6: were just you know, you know who I sit next

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Speaker 6: to when I do Dodger games, And sitting next to

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Speaker 6: Nomar and Adrian and Zalaz and Jerry Harrison, hearing these

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Speaker 6: guys talk about just just put ball, but barrel on

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Speaker 6: ball and just get and get in there, you never

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Speaker 6: know what happened. Quit swinging for the fences every time,

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Speaker 6: and it got boring. Thankfully, it's changing the brand of

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Speaker 6: baseball's gotten a little bit better. And you know what happy, Well,

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Speaker 6: technically running hurts. So you can have multiple running backs,

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Speaker 6: you can have three running backs. You don't have to

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Speaker 6: do it doesn't matter if you have a star running

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Speaker 6: back and you could just pass it. Football got a

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Speaker 6: little boring. Now it's mixed up again. You got runners again,

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Speaker 6: Derrick Kennedy, McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, you're getting runners again and

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Speaker 6: Taylor and so to me, it just gott formulated.

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Speaker 3: Just pass it, because technically a pass is better than

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Speaker 3: a run.

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Speaker 6: Stop putting too much to remember there's an entertainment value

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Speaker 6: in sports, and I think we've forgotten that.

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Speaker 1: No, there you go, and you've forgotten that part of swathing.

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Speaker 1: It ain't just about wahall. Let's wait till the postseason.

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Speaker 1: People are paying money to go to game to be entertained,

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Speaker 1: and you're taking away these moments