1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm Raymond Arroyo. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Arroyo Grande, where we dive into the wild 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: currents of the culture and pull out perspectives and practical 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: life lessons from incredible culture makers. This week, I'm joined 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: by actor Billy Baldwin. Billy is part of the Baldwin 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: acting clan, and we talked about how he and his brothers, 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: who have very divergent political views, managed to get along 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: and what he would advise similarly afflicted families to do. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: And he's been married to China. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Phillips of Wilson Phillips for thirty three years. His relationship 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: advice is original. Billy Baldwin's latest film explores the humanity 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: behind the homeless crisis. It's called No Address and I 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: have a free flow on a new offering at the 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Hollywood Bowld. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that. Here's Billy bald old One. 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: Tell me first of all, was there something in the 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: water in Long Island that all the Baldwin boys end 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: up being actors? What happened? 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: What? 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: What? What was it? 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: Well, just in Massapeka alone, there is Jerry Seinfeld, right. 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: The Baldinger brothers all played in the NFL. 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: The Stray Cats. 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Oh, the Stray Cats, I've forgotten about them. 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: Brian Setzler and Jim Jim Phantom, the Baldwin Boys, Joey Buttafuco. 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: We get down there. 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Gilgo Beach serial killer. My classmate Schuerman from 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: seventh grade through twelfth grade. So there's there is something 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: in the water, both both famous and infamous, and of 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: course there's always Stephen Baldwin. 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: Well, we were going to get to it both ways. 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: We're going to get to a brother. 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: Tell me about Alec. Was that really the was he 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: the prime mover here? Everybody saw Alec and said, well, 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: look if he. 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: Can do it, and he schmuck could. No, No, I'm not 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: kidding you. I'm not kidding you. 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: He was in Washington, he was studying political science, and 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: he was gonna like me, I was at university studying 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: political years at five years after him, and he was 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: going to go to law school. And he had a 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: conversation with somebody, a couple of friends and a girl 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: who was dating, and said I want to be an actor, 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: and they were like, you got to get out of DC. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: He transferred to NYU, got a scholarship, studied with Strasburg 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: at Strasburg. A year and a half later he had 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: Michael Bloom was his agent. He went up on a 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: soap opera called The Doctors. I was a sophomore in college. 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: We used to go into the dorm lobby with all 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: the We watched the Luke and Laura wedding, and we 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: watched my brother on the Doctors. And I started to 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: have this, you know, bitten by the bug. Had never 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: done the community theater, summer stock, had never did nothing, nothing, 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: nothing in My brother was on television and I would 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: they would turn on the TV and to get sort. 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: Of inspired by and excited by it. 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: But then I worked on the hill and they were 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: shooting Saint almost fire, and I was sitting on my 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: stoop and an entourage came and got Rob Low and 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: he came out of his trailer and he walked by 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: me with security and his assistants and pas and stuff. 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: And he walked by me and he looked up the 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: staircase at me, and I was sitting there and I 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: smile at him. I was like, listen. 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: He was like, and this is the height of the 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: brat pack. And they were shooting st almost fire, and 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: I was like, I. 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: Was like, I could never do that. 69 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: Look at that Rob Low, you know I could. I 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: could never be in the movies. 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: And then I would come home for like Rashashana and 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: ya I'm Kipper, and Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I would 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: go to the city to visit my brother. And this 74 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: was a real attractive I mean, the work itself, the 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: acting itself was really jazz me. But I would go 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: to meet him and he would take me from the 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: set and we would go to to have dinner, and 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: then we would go meet his friends for like a 79 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: coffee late night. And invariably there were mostly people from 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: show business, and they were from both sides of the camera, writers, directors, producers, actors, 81 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: some famous, some not art direction, set design, and they 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: aren't the smartest people in the world like NASA, but 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: there's many very, very very smart people in show business. 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: They are now the most creative people in the world. 85 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean, there's some of the most creative people in 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: the world that are in Hollywood. They are very interesting 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: and dynamic, and they are very wounded and broken. And 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: when you take super smart and super creative and super 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: interesting and super dynamic and very wounded and you throw 90 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: it all together in the Bullia Bays, in the bunder 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: you get people that you can't find at Deloitte in 92 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: the accounting office. 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: So it was the people that drew you, yes, and 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: the kind of a license. 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: I just I just want to be around these people 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: like you. 97 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: Who did you intern with on the hill? 98 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: Tom Downey, congressman from Long Island? 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: And what did you learn from that? 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: I had a great experience with them. And you know 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: it always I was always an active that became an actor. 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't an actor that became an activist. My father 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: taught government and taught history, and he was always an activist. 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: And still that's been in my DNA since some you know, 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: twelve fifteen. 106 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: And what did you get there? I mean, obviously you 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: decided this is not the path for me. The political 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: path is not mine. 109 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: What about that service is mine? 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: I mean it's really more important to me than my 111 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: show business career. I mean, it's my show business career, 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: my acting is is and providing for my children is 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: super important. But the thing that feeds my soul is 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: making a movie does, and traveling does, and going to 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: Italy Rome to make a movie doesn't go to Paris 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: or going to Bangkok. To make a film definitely does, 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: but there's nothing that feeds me the same as to 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: you know, start and finish a project that's impacting the 119 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: lives of people that are poor, or marginalized or forgotten. 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: And this one, No Address is one of those projects. 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: Good on, Please look me in you want to? I 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: have nowhere else to go. No, no, no, please, This 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: is a group of people. Look, I've covered veteran homelessness. 124 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: I've covered it in New Orleans. The fascinating lives that 125 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: those people have led. In many cases, they didn't want 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: to be on the streets. In most cases they found 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: themselves there. How big a role does addiction play? And 128 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: how many people do you think are characters like yours 129 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: that kind of stumble out of their careers and find themselves. 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: Well, many of them start out like me. Most of 131 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: them start out like me. 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: The film clearly and beautifully portrays the different paths to homelessness. 133 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: One as a PTSD VET, one is a mental health crisis. 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: Another one ages out of foster care. Everybody can be 135 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: fired and can't pay the mortgage and can't pay the 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: utilities and can't pay the rent, and then they get 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: hit with a major health crisis with one of their kids, 138 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: and they don't have their insurance, or they have insurance 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: but it only covers part of it. And they're left 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: with fifty thousand dollars in medical builds and all of 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: a sudden, you're filing for bankruptcy. You're evicted, and you're 142 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: living in your car, and with COVID now and with 143 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: fetanol now. It's the problem is compounded by a factor 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: of ten. It's gotten much worse in the last decade. 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: What drew you to this? I mean, did the script 146 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: come to you? 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: I know this there was a regular offer. It was 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: a regular offer, but. 149 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: You'd already been sensitive to this issue. 150 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was when I read that it was 151 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: on homelessness. I love the script. I love the part 152 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: I wanted to work with Julia. I was very excited 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: to meet Robert Craig and everybody Robert Craig films and 154 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: the subject matter, the social messaging, and that's what's near 155 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: and dear to Robert Craig's heart and the hearts of 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: everyone that works at this production company. 157 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: I was stunned that they actually went and toured the 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: production team before they started the film. They went to 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: homeless encampments. They spent time. 160 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: I think that's what spun off the documentary. 161 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: They went to twenty cities in eighteen different states, federal, state, local, nonprofit, 162 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: faith based the interview. They had hundreds of interviews to 163 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: try and get it right on screen, authentic, real, and 164 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: they had such so much an abundance of such incredible material. 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: They're like, wait a second, we have a documentary here too. 166 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: With your voice. Yes, yes, yes, and fifty percent of 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: the proceeds of this film. 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, people are wondering how they can help it all too. 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 170 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: You can advocate in so many different ways in your 171 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: community with nonprofits. Of course, you could write a check, 172 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: you can advocate on your computer, raising awareness, raising compassion. 173 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: But you could also go to no addressmovie. 174 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: Dot com, buy a ticket for you and your pal, 175 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: spread the word on social media, tell all your friends 176 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: to go, and know that fifty percent of the proceeds 177 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: go to nonprofits that are working in the homeless space 178 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: right now. So you'll have an impact by simply buying 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: tickets and showing up at theater. 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: Billy, what of this experience and kind of immersing yourself 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: in this world? What surprised you most that you didn't 182 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: know when you came into this. 183 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: You said it before and I didn't get a chance 184 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: to answer it. There's three or four things. 185 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: One is that it's more of a mental health crisis 186 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: than a homeless crisis. 187 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: Number one. 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: Number two, it's been compounded by COVID and by fetnol. 189 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: Number three. There's amazing programs. 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: The gathering in in northern California and it's out of 191 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: Sacramento in Penelas, Florida, at Johns Hopkins in Fort Smith 192 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: in San Antonio. They're doing work that's having startling results. Okay, 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: so we have some of the answers that are working 194 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: there highly effective. We need to replicate it across the country. 195 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: One of the big misconceptions that people don't understand. When 196 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: I'll ask you you answered simply yes. Or Now you're 197 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: a child and you're homeless, is it your fault? No, 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: your PTSD vent and you find yourself homeless, is it 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: your faut? 200 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 201 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: If you're having if you have schizophrenia, is it your fault? 202 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: If you age out of foster care and you're you're 203 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: eighteen years old and you have been provided the tools 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: in foster care, is it your fault if you file 205 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: for bankruptcy and you you know, this is where it's 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: there is some personal responsibility. And a lot of people say, oh, 207 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: those people there, What about the ones that are taking drugs? 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: This is another thing. A lot of it is drugs. 209 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: But they don't have access to healthcare. They can't see 210 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: a doctor, they can't get medication for anxiety, depression, bipolarity, 211 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: schizophrenic schizophrenia a PTSD. So they're self medicating on the 212 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: streets with alcohol and fentol because they're suffering, they're struggling, 213 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: they're in pain, and this makes their pain go away. 214 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: They're not doing it just because of the pain. 215 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: They're doing it because they're suffering from depression and bipolarity 216 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: and schizophrenia. 217 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: They're mentally ill, so they're taking medication. 218 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: So that a big portion of the of the drug 219 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: component of homelessness is the mental health crisis. 220 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: And that's what you think these other groups shown Hopkins 221 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: and others are addressing. 222 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: Now they're addressing three sixty five wrap around here at 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: the gathering inn in San Antonio, at Johns Hopkins. It's 224 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: it's it's housing, it's job training, it's job placement, it's 225 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: mental health and drug addiction treatment, and it's some of 226 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: these programs are having experiencing a seventy percent success rights 227 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: out of the program. 228 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: We're not look. One of the things that surprised me 229 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: most you had a tweet recently where you said, I've 230 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: been to every Republican and Democratic convention since what eighty eight? 231 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight. When I listen to you, when I 232 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: watch you now, when I hear you speak out, you're 233 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: so outspoken on politics. Why not go into politics? 234 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: If you could turn the clock back and make me 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: thirty five years old again. 236 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: But now you have the gravitas for it, Billy, at 237 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: thirty five, you might not. 238 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I had it then too. I was quite something. 239 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: Now, you know, I've you know, if I could do 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: it all over again, you know, there's you know, there's 241 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: a chance I might have hit a crossroads in my 242 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: career and maybe maybe done something like that. 243 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: I believe me. 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: I've been approached by the leadership of the Democratic Party 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: for thirty years about that. 246 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: And you're very involved in the Creative Coalition. 247 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 4: Not anymore. 248 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: I haven't been because I raised my children and I 249 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: moved to the West Coast. I'm not that active I 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: keep tabs on them and stay in touch with them. 251 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: But you know, the real I've said this before when 252 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: I was on the Creative when I was involved with 253 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: the Creative Coalition, when I. 254 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: Was on the board. Yeah, and when I was. 255 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: The president of the Creative Coalition, Christopher Ree was the president. 256 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: Ron Silver was the first president, and then Chris, and 257 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: then Chris had his accident, and then I became the 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: president after he brought after Chris had his accident, and 259 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 3: I was the president for I don't know, I'm making 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: it a five or six years. And I would be 261 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: asked to go on Chris Matthews, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Maher, 262 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: politically incorrect, Fox News, CNN News. You know, if it's 263 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: in my in my wheelhouse, arts advocacy, government funding of 264 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: the arts, First Amendment rights, even outside of my box 265 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: with with I knew a lot about campaign finance reform, 266 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: the Buckley Vallejo decision in the Supreme Court. I knew 267 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: a lot about stuff. I could talk. But then they 268 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: would start asking me on we like the war in Iraq, 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: And they would have generals and admirals and senators and 270 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: congressmen and they would ask me, and I'm like, what's wrong, 271 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: What's wrong? But what I realize is that my value 272 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: as as an activist, what will help. 273 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 4: Me more is if I'm on to if I'm in 274 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: a hit movie, or I'm on a hit show, if 275 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: I'm on a hit TV show. 276 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 3: Right now, they're gonna I'm gonna be on Bill Maher 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: five times in the next year, you know, And then 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: I could get I could advance the the I could 279 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: raise awareness and educate people about them. 280 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: When I talk about some of the stuff that I'm talking. 281 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: About here with Bill Maher, about the programs and how 282 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: they're working and why they're working, he would be very, 283 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: very interested in it. He'd be very interested in some 284 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: of this stuff. 285 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: But tell me about the power of art though, I mean, 286 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: art has an enormous power that politics just doesn't. 287 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: Well, we shape you know, art imitates life and life 288 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: imitates art. It's both. I mean we imitate life and 289 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: life imitates us. 290 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: But you're hitting the heart. Yeah, I mean politics can 291 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: hit this usually, but on this, once you move the heart, 292 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: everything else moves. 293 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and only it is a business. 294 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: So they want to make movies where they're going to 295 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: recoup and they're going to be and of course they're 296 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: going to profit, so feathering striking that balance between having 297 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: social messaging and allowing for them to that's up to you. Now, 298 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: that's what we're looking at. You no addressmovie dot Com. 299 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Tell your friends go and know that you're helping to 300 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: raise awareness and to educate people about homelessness homelessness in America. 301 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Now for a little free flow. 302 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: It was announced that the Hollywood Bowl is mounting a 303 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: new production of Jesus Christ Superstar, the old musical. 304 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: That's fine, but here's the case. 305 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: Jesus will be played by Wickeds Cynthia Erivo. Now we've 306 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: seen non traditional casting of this role before. In twenty eighteen, 307 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: John Legend won an Emmy for his TV portrayal of 308 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: Jesus in the same show. When it comes to portrayals 309 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: of the Lord, I've always adopted the philosophy of that 310 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: old Andy Williams Christmas song. 311 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Some children see him lily white, some children see him 312 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: bronzed and brown. 313 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: But when you start to talk about switching the sex 314 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: of Jesus, well, I would argue the creatives know not 315 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: what they do. To be honest, I'm not a huge 316 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: fan of Jesus Christ Superstar. 317 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I've always thought it. 318 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: The entire piece itself is kind of sacrilegious. But for 319 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: Christians around the world, the person of Jesus Christ, the 320 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: god Man, was an historic man. So it's offensive to 321 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: millions of Christians when you depict Jesus in a way 322 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: that's not in keeping with the Gospel or history. 323 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: It's personal. 324 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: You can't just have a female star like Arevo portray 325 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: the Messiah without upsetting a huge swath of the audience. 326 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know what you're saying. 327 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: This is art. 328 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: We're casting the show in this way to shine a 329 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: new light on the character of Jesus, and I'd find 330 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: that easier to believe if just once someone tried it 331 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: with Mohammed alu Wakbar. Superstar could be a great part 332 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: for Rivo, But somehow I don't think we'll ever see it. 333 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: Unlike Christians who simply accept the public defaming of their Messiah, 334 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: Muslims might not be so forgiving. But we'll never know 335 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: because the Hollywood Bowl nor any other venue would ever 336 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: dare to attempt it, because Muslims would justifiably be outraged. 337 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Call me when they start hanging the Mohammed musical billboards. 338 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: But there's another reason this female Jesus. It's just a 339 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: stupid idea. Broad Wait just tried this gender replacement casting 340 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: a few years ago. It was of a musical called 341 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six and it featured an all female and 342 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: transcast as the Founding Fathers. The show surrendered faster than 343 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: the Red Coats at Yorktown. 344 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: It was a complete flop. 345 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: So look, Hollywood, bowl, whether to preserve your audience or 346 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: just to be decent, recast the lead of Jesus Christ superstar. 347 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: No one wants to see the Green Witch from Oz 348 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: as the Savior. It would be like Jim Cavizl playing Glinda. 349 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: It won't work, I promise you. And there's something more 350 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: important at play here. Whether you believe that Jesus is 351 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: God or not, more than two point five billion people 352 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: do believe that. Why offend such a large group of humanity? 353 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 2: You only get respect when you give it. And then 354 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: there's that old line that Jesus once spoke to Judas 355 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: the casting director, woe do you who miss casts the 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: Son of Man? Something like that. Now, back to my 357 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: conversation with Billy Baldwin. I want to talk about something 358 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: that I know you experience in your family. You mentioned 359 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: it a moment ago. You've got Stephen Bald, when you've 360 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: got Alec Bould, when you've got you, how do you 361 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: keep peace in that family? Given the different politics? 362 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: Used to be a lot easier. Yeah, And I. 363 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: Asked this question because a lot of families are dealing 364 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: with this stuff, A lot are a lot of How 365 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: do you navigate it? Do you put the politics aside? 366 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 367 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: I mean I I we try, we try. 368 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: We live in a new age. 369 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: You know, this isn't like let's fight over you know, 370 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: Reagan and Iran Contra, you know what I mean, Like, 371 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: we live in a different world now. Where when I 372 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: worked in the Hill, Bob Dole was the Senate Majority 373 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: Leader and Tip O'Neil was the House you know, speaker, 374 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: and everyone talked about gridlock and how nothing got done 375 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: back then when I was working on the Hill. 376 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: Well, those are the good old days. 377 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: Those were at least when people would go into a room, 378 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: lock the door, torch up a cigar, and say, nobody 379 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: leaves until we get something, until we get a. 380 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: Deal, until we get something done. 381 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: Now people are forget brothers and sisters, I mean members 382 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: of the members of opposite part members of the same party. 383 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: Donty aren't even talking to each other. It's it's we 384 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: need a healing, we need a healing. But what's great 385 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: about this film and Robert Craig Productions is that they 386 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: brought on Trump's former homelessness czar to be one of 387 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: the producers and consultants on the film, doctor Robert Marvin, 388 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: and we've all been working very closely with him, and 389 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: we've been going around the country with the film and 390 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: with the documentary, doing panel discussions, talking to think tanks, 391 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: and they marvel at the fact that he's a Trump's 392 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: you know, cabinet member, and am a Hollywood lefty, and 393 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: we're finding common sense, we're finding consensus, and we're totally 394 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: respectful and and you know, we're treating each other with dignity, 395 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: and we you know, not shockingly, I've always known this. 396 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: We agree way more than we disagree. So in this 397 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: culture right now, with the media pitting size aginst each other, 398 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: it's like when I talk about many many issues, when 399 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: I talk about homelessness, when I talk about climate change, 400 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: when I took about gun control, I talk to people 401 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: that are big, big two A people, and I asked 402 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: them five or six questions there. I agree with that. 403 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: I agree with that. I have no problem that. What's 404 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: wrong with that? Why would I have a problem with that? 405 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: But you have to realize we agree like eighty percent 406 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: of this issue. 407 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: But what you're really saying is you need to engage. 408 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: You have to be willing to engage. 409 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 410 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: The polarization, I think is mostly characterization of people. And 411 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: they get their air camplies, but it's harder to do 412 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: that with family. 413 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 4: Now. 414 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: I've heard it and read and no families who simply 415 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: don't get together during the holidays because they're politically divergent. 416 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: Would you ever do that? 417 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: That's happened, that's happened, That's happened in my family. 418 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've gone to you know, gatherings on the 419 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: thing upside of the family where people got together and 420 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: they were sort of mixed opinions there too. Not as 421 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: polarizing as other settings that I've been in. But yeah, 422 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: I mean you read it all the time, like you 423 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: know not and it's interesting the intersection don't talk religion 424 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: or politics now, they completely intersect, And I just want 425 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: that's what's so important to this film is that we're 426 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: I want people to live it. Yeah, I don't care 427 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: if you're Buddhist, Hindu, Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Agnostic, atheist. 428 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 4: I want people to live it. 429 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: I want them to be of service and give back 430 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: to the forgotten and the lost and the marginalized and 431 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: the people that have slipped through the cracks. That's why 432 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: we're here. That's my faith, that's my service. That's how 433 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: I give back by trying to be of service to 434 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: the less privileged. 435 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: And you walked right into it. Because I watching you 436 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: all these years, I've always thought you were motivated by 437 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: your faith to speak out on these issues, particularly things 438 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: like homeless in climate change, care for the poor. That 439 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: that was outpouring of your Catholic faith. 440 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: I know my conscience and it's my DNA because that's 441 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: all I ever knew, because that's the way I was 442 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: raised by both of my parents. My father and mother 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: did everything. My father was a teacher, a football coach. 444 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: He ran the youth club, he ran he ran the 445 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: Key Club, the youth Council, Summer Wreck, Winter Wreck, the 446 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: Little League, the Cub Scouts. 447 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: He was my Cub Scouts time for you all. 448 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: Wow, No, he was doing that for us. He was 449 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: our little league coaches, he was our cup scout masters. 450 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: He was doing that. So all I ever knew growing 451 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: up is to. 452 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: Give back and to be My father was and my 453 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: mother were titans, pillars, and if they didn't directly impact you, 454 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: they indirectly because my father was your brother's little league 455 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: coach or something from nineteen fifty two to nineteen when 456 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: he died in nineteen eighty three. 457 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: He died young, fifty five years old. 458 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: Your wife, China Phillips and you did some YouTube exchanges 459 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: I've been watching where she's been very outspoken about her faith. 460 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: You're a little more cagey. 461 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 3: Why that's her choice and that's my choice. 462 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: I told you, I just said my faith is my service. 463 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. 464 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 4: I just literally said it in front of your entire audience. 465 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm listening. 466 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: No, she's. 467 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: She's, you know, an evangelical Christian who's who's answering the 468 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: call to bring people to faith. I do it in 469 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: other ways under the radar, and I don't believe some 470 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: of the things. 471 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: I don't I don't walk the same way that she walks. 472 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: But we're sort of an interesting Ricky and Lucy couple. 473 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: She says, I'm in the Jesus waiting room. 474 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: She says, I'm like so funny. 475 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: We get together and we do these little segments together 476 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: where we tell stories about our Margine I told She 477 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: told me that her parents got divorced when she was two, 478 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: and then her mother lived with Warren Baty for four years. 479 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: Then she lived with Jack Nicholson for four years. 480 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 3: Then she was married to Dennis Hopper, and then she 481 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: was dating Mick Jagger throughout. And my wife used to 482 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: go to the Ice Capades to go see Dorothy Hammel 483 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: with Michael Jackson, Like Michael Jackson and his mother and 484 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: LaToya and Tito and Jermaine and Janet would pick her up, 485 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: like Michael would call it me a phone ordering Hello. 486 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: Hi, Michelle, it's Michael. I just want to come back 487 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: and get my hes mycha doll. He would call her 488 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: Machina Doll. 489 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: And he would take her to the Wringling Brothers and 490 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: the zoo and to see Dorothy Hamel. And I told 491 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: my wife that my father was a high school teacher 492 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: and he was a coach, and he ran the Cub 493 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: Scouts in the Little League. And she just in the 494 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: middle of the sentence she ran away like that cartoon 495 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: with like the witch and the bobby pins go flying 496 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: up in the air, and she. 497 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 4: Just took off. I'm like, what's happening? 498 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: And she came running back to me, ran up to me, 499 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: fell to her knees, snot coming out of her nose, 500 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: choking on her tongue, sobbing, crying, and rolling a piece 501 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: of Reynolds wrap into a ring. And she went from 502 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson to Warren Batty to Dennis Hopper, and I 503 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: went from teacher to cubs gust to little league. And 504 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 3: she put this ring on my finger and she couldn't 505 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: get the words out. And she was proposing to me 506 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: because I said, my father ran the cupscouts. 507 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: Hmm. 508 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: That's the difference in childhood's with But oddly enough with 509 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: the Baldwins have kind of jumped the Phillip shark when 510 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: it comes to family dysfunction and insanity. 511 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 4: They were all back together. 512 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: They are in the same room for Thanksgiving talking my 513 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: brothers and I are like, can't do it yet, battling 514 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: or battling. 515 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you, I hope you don't do that 516 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: for much longer. One of your your niece married Justin Bieber. 517 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: Right, he's Haley. He's married to Justin. The been together 518 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: a long time. 519 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: Have you given him any advice or she any advice? 520 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: Given that you've been a good. 521 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: Star, I've done exactly what I said. 522 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: I said to Haley, if you ever need advice, you 523 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: know we've been together for decades. You know, she's known 524 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: Anti Chagey since she was a baby, since she's five 525 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: years old. And you know, I said, if you ever 526 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: even need advice, you know you have two people that 527 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: have a show business career. And my wife's a recording 528 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: artists and there's been lots of dysfunction in destabilization during 529 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: her childhood. And I've been there for her. She's been 530 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: there for me. And she had a very high flying career, 531 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: not Justin's career, but she had a very very big 532 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: career in the early nineties and mid nineties. And I said, 533 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: if you ever want to talk to me or pick 534 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: my brain on what's where we've where it's worked, where 535 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: it's failed, where we've succeeded, where we've come up short, 536 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: We've we've learned from our mistakes and grown from them. 537 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: So what would you tell her and other couples. 538 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: How do you say earlier today? 539 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean that we were in couples therapy one time 540 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: and the therapist said to China, what's the one thing. 541 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: I don't want a laundry list. I don't want a 542 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: grocery list. I don't want five or six things. I 543 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: want one thing. What do you need right now that 544 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: you're not getting? How are you not being fed in 545 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 3: the relationship? What do you need from Billy? I want 546 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: one thing? And then he said the same thing to me. 547 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: He goes, Okay, I'll see you in two weeks, come 548 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: back in two weeks. And I described what it was 549 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: that I needed, and I just thought I might have 550 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: even said, I don't even need you to be good 551 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: at it. You could like suck at it, you could fail, 552 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 3: you could like you could burn the house down doing it. 553 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: I said, but it's something that I want, I need, 554 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: And if you if you give me, if you address this, 555 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: if you attempt to give me what I need consistently 556 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 3: over the next week or two until we come back, 557 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: and I do the same, let's see what happens. 558 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: And it was. 559 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: Really really shockingly elusive, not as easy as you might 560 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: think to consistently focus on the one thing. But I 561 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: would say that to any couple just ask each other, 562 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: when is it time to discuss what's the one thing? 563 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: I need to know what you need from me right now, 564 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: today and this week? 565 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: What can I do? What do you? 566 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: What do you need from me? And that you're not 567 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: kidding And it could be little things and it could 568 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: be big things. It could be like the first thing 569 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: my wife said to me is I need you to 570 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: communicate with me in a different way because we're Ricky 571 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: and Lucy. And she says to me, why are you 572 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: getting like literally the way I'm talking to you right now? 573 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: The hands start going. I get excited, I. 574 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: Get this critique. 575 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: I know you're a little excited. I get a little elevated. 576 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: It gets a little urgent, it gets a little. 577 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: Why are you raising your voice? 578 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 4: And my wife's like, why are you yelling at me? 579 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my gosh. If you talk to 580 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 4: any of the. 581 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: Italian and Irish girls from New York that I grew 582 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: up with, this is like a mating call. 583 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, you just saved me years of there. 584 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: Is like this is are you give it to them? 585 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: They give it right back to like get it and 586 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: I'm not even, but sometimes it does escalate it. It 587 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: does get intense, but not in a bad way you're 588 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: talking about, but it's your passion and intensity. 589 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: You're you're with your wife and somebody comes over and says, oh, 590 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: Yankee suck. 591 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 4: I'm a rid sucks fan. 592 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: So you start getting into a conversation about why the 593 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: Red Sox suck. And I started getting animated, and I 594 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: start to escalate, and my wife starts having a panic attack, 595 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: not a panic attack, she. 596 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: Starts having like an anxiety thing. 597 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: Right, And where's he going? What's he doing? 598 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: Like, no, no, just literally the sound and the like. 599 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: We don't have loud music playing early in the morning. 600 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: We never have the television on with the light and 601 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: the news and Good Morning America, where you're hearing him 602 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: at the latest plane crash at seven o'clock in the morning. 603 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: My wife can't which a lot of people now my 604 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: wife was ahead of My wife was doing that thirty 605 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: years ago. Now people are on I think Steve Bannon 606 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: referred to it as. 607 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: Muzzle velocity. 608 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: He's been talking about muzzle velocity, where they flood the 609 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: zone with a lot of chaos, and if you turn 610 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: on the TV and you're listening to the news, You're 611 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: getting flooded with a lot of this chaos, and it 612 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: gets overwhelming, and the media latches onto one thing, and 613 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: the people get overwhelmed and they just start to tune 614 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: in out. And I have people that are very strong psychologically, emotionally, 615 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: intellectually that are dialed in with the things that are 616 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: going on. They're like, I can't listen sometimes I just 617 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 3: got to tell I get it. I can't look at 618 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: my social media. I can't watch them for a couple 619 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: of days. 620 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for for their mental health, Yeah, because they 621 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: hit the same emotion anger upsegment, anger division, because it's 622 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: the easiest one to hit. Let's face it. Okay, some 623 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: very quick questions for you. We'll run through these fasts. 624 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Who's the person you most admire? 625 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's there's five answers. But the first 626 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: one would be, uh would be my would be christ 627 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: or my wife? 628 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: I thought you would say your dad, Yeah. 629 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: He would be on the very short list. It would 630 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: be Christ, my wife, my mother and father, my three children. 631 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: What's your best feature? Uh? 632 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: Certainly not giving short answers. 633 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 2: I noticed that I tell stories and I suggress and 634 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: I love this. 635 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: Hold on, it's coming back around. 636 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: Okay, we're coming back out there and there it is. 637 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: No I think my best features feature. 638 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: Is I'm going to answer in a way that's probably 639 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: not true, but it's my It's sort of all the 640 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: same thing, but my desire to grow to learn, not 641 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: being afraid to be wrong, not being afraid to ask 642 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: a question to show that I'm that I don't know 643 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: the answer that that's something that I that I like 644 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: about myself. But I also want to get better about. 645 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: What does Billy Baldwin know that others don't know? 646 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: I have a really really bad answer for come on, 647 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: I give it to me. I was going to say, 648 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: I could show you, but somebody might lose an eye 649 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: clip cut. That did not happen. What was the question? 650 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: The question was what do you know that other people 651 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: don't know? 652 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: Not? 653 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: What do you have that other people don't have? Clarify? 654 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: What do I know that other people don't know? Yeah, 655 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, m that's what I don't know. I 656 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: don't know what I don't know. 657 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: What's your biggest regret. 658 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't have any major regrets. But having said that, 659 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: if I could go back and do it, again. There 660 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: are things that I would change, some things in my marriage, 661 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: some things with child rearings, a couple of things with 662 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: my career. One of the things that I will tell 663 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: parents that is beautiful is my wife has had one 664 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: on one time with each of our children. 665 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: She doesn't say. 666 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: Daddy and Billy, Billy and mommy, jump in the car 667 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: with Jamison. She has one on one time with Jess Jamison, 668 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: with jest Vance, with Jess Brooks, not all five of us, 669 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: not three of them. And it could be let's go 670 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: for a beach walk, let's take out the track, let's 671 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: walk the dog. And you could go walk the dog 672 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: for ten minutes or fifteen minutes without uttering a word. 673 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: You don't have to get to solve life's problem. Do 674 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: you have a crush? Have you ever tried drug? It 675 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: doesn't You could walk in silence. Just one on one 676 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: time with your child individually will create a bond. 677 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: She's hijacked my three children from me, not even my 678 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: kids anymore, she owns all three of them. 679 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: That number one, number two to not give your kids 680 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: a smartphone until we should have given our kids a 681 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: clamshell that dialed five or ten numbers. So you can 682 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: call her, text Grandma, mommy, daddy, three of your friends. 683 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: No pictures, no social media, no access. 684 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: To the internet, no social media, no bullying. 685 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: And I would say, because the great thing about it 686 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: is when my daughter would go to straight State Street 687 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: with her friends when she was twelve, I would text 688 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: her and say yo or sup, and she were right back, Yo, SUP. 689 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: And that just meant I hear you, I'm here everything. 690 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: If there was a complaint or she was worried or 691 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: she was scared, she would have already. But I'm just 692 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: checking in. And if you don't answer and I say 693 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: sup again and another half hour goes by, you're in trouble. 694 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: Final question. 695 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 3: So they should have those because they're like a tether 696 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: gives me like having a nanny, but no access to 697 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: the internet and no access to social media. 698 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: I just had a child psychologist and tell me the 699 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: same thing. Boy, she sees it. 700 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: It's contributing to the mental health. 701 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: Final question, what happens when this is over? 702 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: Well, like me, I'd like all of you to go 703 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: to no addressmovie dot com see the film. Hopefully it 704 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: will inspire you and motivate you and hit that switch 705 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: of compassion and empathy that will want you to. That'll 706 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: you know, make you take action in any way, shape 707 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: or form in your community. 708 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: To be engaged. No matter where you are. 709 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: Engaged, you certain. 710 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the whole. 711 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Billy Baldwin is a feisty character whom I thoroughly enjoyed. 712 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: I especially liked his call serve others, stay engaged, see 713 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: where you can help others, no matter where your life 714 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: leads you, and look. Billy referenced his mother, Carol. She 715 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: was diagnosed with breast cancer in nineteen ninety one. She 716 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: beat it and then started her own Carol M. Baldwin 717 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 2: Breast Research Fund at Stonybrook and later Sooni. She would 718 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: spend the next twenty five years of her life advocating 719 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: and raising money for breast cancer research. We can always 720 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 2: do more, no matter where you are. I hope you'll 721 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: come back to Arroyo Grande soon. Why live a dry, narrow, 722 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: constricted life when if you fill it with good things, 723 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: it can flow into a broad, thriving Arroyo Grande. 724 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: I'm ramming at Arroyo. 725 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe and like this episode. Thank you 726 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: for diving in, and we'll see you next time. 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