1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, grab your low rise jeans, your baby teas, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and yes those Steve mad mules, because today we're taking 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: you back to the early aughts. The whats the aughts, Joseph, 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: it's how you describe the period between two thousand and 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: two thousand. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: And nine, and oh what a time. Everyone was wearing 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: juicy Von Dutch and low rise jeans. Even had a 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: choke hold Anoa. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: I need a photo of that, like immediately, I need 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: a visual And we cannot talk about the odds and 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: not talk about pop music. It was the fiercest it 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: ever was j T. Brittany, no doubt. Oh Christina, Janina Bottle, 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: the good old days of music is I like to 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: call it. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: And the movies were epic thirteen going on thirty. Uptown 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: Girls mean Girls, I mean yes, Lee low. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: But for today, we're looking back at the rise of 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: a multi platinum selling recording artist, actress, entrepreneur, and one 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of the most followed people on Instagram. 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: Baby Selina, Yes, Selena Gomez is on a small list 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: of entertainers along with some of our other icons, who's 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: been wildly successful both as an actress. 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: And a singer. She's also a pop culture phenomenon. 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Think about how much she's done in just three decades, 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: and the fact that she's doing it all under the 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: microscope of a very public relationship and breakup with one 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: of the biggest pop stars on the planet. Jelena Forever. 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, Joseph, don't do that, Selena Forever. 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 4: The whole thing is exhausting. It's tiring, like I'm tired, 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: and I'm only talking about it. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I know it's exhaustive, and so much so that I 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: think for now, let's table the Jelina talk and I 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: promise you'll get our hot take on it later. Right now, 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: we want to move on, and you're gonna hear all 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: about our journey with Selena, starting with her music. We're 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: looking back at Selena from her days at the Disney 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Channel to her meteoric rise to the top of the 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Billboard charts. 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: But first, let's catch up one way flight back to 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: our home state Behas. 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Liliana Oosquez. 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon. 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: how today's most famous latinv stars have shaped pop culture. 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: And given the world some extra level. 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable. 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know. 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 5: How, with buenas, buenasriesas and a lot of opinions as 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: we relive their greatest achievements on our journey to find 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: out what makes them so iconic. 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Selena was born to Marcella Ophelia Quintania Joseph and Abraham 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Quintania Junior. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: No Joseph Joseph, that's the wrong Selena. Selena Marie Gomez 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen ninety two in Grand Prairie, Texas, 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: fans of the famous Tijano singer. Her parents named her 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: after Selena Quintania. 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: For Joseph's mystic corner. 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Please don't talk about yourself in the third person. 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: The cosmos are speaking to what excuse? Okay? She was 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: born July twenty second, nineteen ninety two. To be specific, Yes, 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: I see the star, I hear you stars. It's clear 62 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: as day. Her son is a cancer, her moon is 63 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: in aries, and her rising sign is a Leo. It 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: all makes sense. Shares a larger than life attitude and 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: a charismatic personality. She's also idealistic, energetic, and unafraid to 66 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: what fall in. 67 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Love, especially spot on with that last one. I mean, 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that you can say Selena and not 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: immediately think of relationships and love. And I'm not just 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: talking about her relationships, but how her music connects to 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,279 Speaker 1: love for her fans, right, yes. 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: It's true. And also for me, I feel like she's 73 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: just very relatable because she she speaks out about almost everything. 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: For me, that's one of the reasons that we needed 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: her to be on this Icon's list, because we talk 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: about authenticity, right, we talk about how it takes artists 77 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: forever to find themselves and then once they do, that's 78 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: when they stick, right Like that impact is what can 79 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: create an icon. And what's so amazing about Selena is 80 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: a I think she's one of the youngest icons other 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: than Bad Bunny on the list, But it's because she 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: has been so publicly real and vulnerable about her mental 83 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: health journey and that connection. Like the second she went 84 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: there was when she was like the most followed person 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's when her career exploded. 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: But I'm pious. Have you ever worked with her? She's 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: a dream girl For me, I'll say that I would 88 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: love to sculpt her to do her makeup just to 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: sit with her and just like hug her. 90 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why, oh I love but I think that. Okay, 91 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: So first of all, no, I have never worked with her, 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: but what you just said is exactly why I feel 93 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: fans are ride or die for her. You said, I 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: just want to hug her, right like, not like you 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: just want to hug her and you just want to 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: be hugged backed by her. There's something so like lean 97 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: the and like Ggosa about her persona. It's so funny. 98 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: It's like I always talk about being in like my 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: Senora era, right like like, by the way, I am 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: like a basically a full fledged Senyoda, like I'm forty three. 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: Okay, oh oh you have some more time. It's when 102 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: you cut your hair really short and you get that 103 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: blowout that goes backwards. I feel like that official Senora era. 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I also say this a lot of time. 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: We say that as somebody who is an old soul, right, 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: somebody that just has like a maturity and I don't know, 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: just like a calming energy about them. Something about Selena 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: makes me feel like she's been in her Senora era 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: since she was a teenager. Because she's an old soul. 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: There's calmness there, there's a softness, there's a quiet confidence. 111 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: It's when you're like making porfias and tamalis in your kitchen, 112 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: like you're having your Bustello coffee and we're hitting heavy 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: on the Latino, right, Because I personally always thought that 114 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Selena was Sienforcento Mexicana. But did you know she actually 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: has a mixed background. 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: Excuse me? 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, her mom, Mandy Tife, is actually Italian, She's of 118 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: Italian descent, and her dad, Ricardo Gomez, is Mexican. His 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: parents actually migrated to Texas from Monterrey in the seventies, 120 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: so her childhood was full of quing signeras, Iglesian Sundays, 121 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: and of course plenty of Garna salas. She grew up 122 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: in Texas like you and I, speaking Spanish until her 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: parents divorce. Mandy left Ricaddo and took little Selena with her, 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: raising her with her side of the family. 125 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Throughout her childhood, Selena were called to struggle not only 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: to make ends meet, but she also missed her dad. 127 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: Her parents had Selena when they were only sixteen years old. 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: They were kids raising kids, and as a forty three 129 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: year old mom with stability and security. It's still hard 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: for me to raise a baby, so I can't even 131 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: imagine doing this as a single teen mom. 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Selena quickly became her number one priority. Yeah. 133 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Mandy held down multiple jobs to provide for her daughter, 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: and at one point she was even working three jobs 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: at once. 136 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Which meant that Selena spent a lot of time with 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: her grandparents while her mom was out working. 138 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: The family's financial hardships left them struggling to make ends 139 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: meet and just put food on the table. Gomus has 140 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: shared about her past, I was frustrated that my parents 141 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: weren't together and never saw the light at the end 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: of the tunnel where my mom was working hard to 143 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: provide a better life for me. I'm terrified of what 144 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: I would have become if I'd stayed in Texas. 145 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: Carl, I don't know what I would have become, anti 146 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: stated Texas. But her hardships began to fade when Selena 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: was able to break into the entertainment industry as Gianna 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: on Barney. 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: And Friends, and by the time she was fifteen, she 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: already had a hit sitcom under her belt with the 151 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Disney Channel. Now Paus because I know it feels like 152 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: we're rushing through her humble beginnings and her early start. 153 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: But be patient. We're going to dive into all of 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the Dino and Disney drama on next week's episode. 155 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Wait, there was Dino drama. 156 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: If you consider alcohol abuse, drugs, and tantric sex dramatic, 157 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: then yeah, there was Dino drama. Selena had delivered Disney 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: one of their most popular shows with Wizards of Waverley Place, 159 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and with dollar signs in their eyes, they wanted to 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: give Selena a little booze to reach the next level 161 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: of her career. 162 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: They knew how having a triple threat and Selena could 163 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: mean big business. So the channel was brainstorming ways to 164 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: make the most of the young star. 165 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: And they have their answer, turned Selena into a singer. 166 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: She is named after our baby baby bum bum Queen 167 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: Selena Kinthania. 168 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Selena started small by recording songs for her own Disney projects, 169 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: but she wasn't quite ready to take a big leap 170 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: towards a full fledged singing career. 171 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: Until two thousand and eight, when she was cast in 172 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: another Cinderella Story. 173 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: Not only did she star in that film, but she 174 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: also contributed three songs to the film's soundtrack, including tell 175 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Me Something I Don't Know. 176 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: It was total teeny bopper realness. It was her very 177 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: first single and the first song in her career to 178 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: chart the US Billboard Hot one hundred. 179 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: With that, Gome saw that a career as a singer 180 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: was possible and that she had what it took to 181 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: thrive in that space. 182 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Her dream was to become an actress, but that didn't 183 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: mean she couldn't do both right. 184 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Tell Me Something I Don't Know did what it needed 185 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: to to do, and she was signed to Hollywood Records. 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Like fellow Disney girlies Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovado, Selena 187 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: was only sixteen years old, with a record deal and now. 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 5: Her own production company, which she named July mun Productions 189 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 5: because she was born in July and her name means 190 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 5: moon cute. 191 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: She was figuring out her identity in the music world. 192 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: Selena decided she didn't want to be a solo artist 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: like her peers. In two thousand and nine, she revealed 194 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: to MPTV News during an interview that she was starting 195 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: a band, citing Pairmore as an inspiration for the decision. 196 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: Selena Gomez and the scene which was an ironic job 197 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: at the people who called Gomez a wannab scene. Her 198 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: and her team held auditions in Burbank, California to find 199 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: just the right mix of people for the group. 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: They eventually found the bands four other members, Greg Garman 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: is the drummer, Joey Clement on the bass guitar, and 202 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Dane Forrest and Nick Foxer splitting duties on the keys. 203 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: The band's debut album took over a year to develop. 204 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Selena was passionate about creating something that her fans as 205 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: well as herself could relate to. 206 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: People worked tirelessly on this album to make sure it'd 207 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: be the perfect launching pad for our Selenita. 208 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: She had various producers heavily involved in the album, but 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: one name that stood out is The Go Go's very 210 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: own Gina Shock. 211 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: You mean rock and roll Hall of Fame drummer of 212 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: the Go Gos Gina A Shock. 213 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for checking me, Joseph, I appreciate it now. 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: The band's debut album, Kiss Intel, was finally released on 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: September twenty ninth, two thousand and nine, through Hollywood Records, 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and it was mostly a mix of pop, rock and electronica. 217 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: It takes me back to those good old Hillary Duffin 218 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Blinkwin eighty two vibes. 219 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Oh you guys, I love that sound and remember at 220 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: this time people weren't ready to let go of that 221 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: gritty grunge style of the nineties, but it was inevitable 222 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: that pop was taking over. We had Brittany, Christina and 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,119 Speaker 1: Shakira dominating the airwaves. 224 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: Okay, she's about to have her big break as a singer. 225 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: She was coming up alongside artists like Bruno Mars, Katie Perry, Kesha, 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: and a Gomez longtime friend Taylor Swift. What a fucking 227 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: time to be alive. 228 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Here's the real deal. When the album came out, it 229 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: received praise for being let's call it sun put. The 230 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: critics well, they weren't entirely convinced by Selena's vocal. 231 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: Ability, Yet the album was a success, Henny. It charted 232 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: Billboard to two hundred's top ten in the United States 233 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: and was heavily promoted through the Disney Channel. With Selena 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: doing so well, many started to notice some competitiveness amongst 235 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: the other Disney starlets. Demi and Selena got along great 236 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: since they knew each other from their Barney days. 237 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Miley and Selena, well, that was another story. The two 238 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: women were rumored to have been feuding for most of 239 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: their careers. 240 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: There was all ways drama behind the scenes in general 241 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: at the Halls of Disney, Hiding Lamarajuana from the Big Mouse, 242 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 2: Purity Rings, the love triangle between Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus. 243 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: And spoilers, spoilers, Joseph Okay, hurry up, okay, fine, fine, fine, listen. 244 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: It made sense because this environment was the closest thing 245 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: to high school that these kids had, and the teen 246 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: centered tabloids, well they ate it up. 247 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: The glory days of Tiger By in j fourteen, Miley 248 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: had gotten her shot at fame, first with hand A Montana, 249 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: then Selena quickly followed with Wizards. 250 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: Selena had a YouTube channel with Demi, Miley then had 251 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: one with her friends, and it kind of felt like 252 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: they were always trying to one up each other. 253 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: It was so petty teenage gentis that amounted to nothing. 254 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: But the one thing that really got under each other's 255 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: skin was that they were both interested in a specific 256 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Joe bro Nick Jonas Demi Levado finally spilled the tea 257 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: on the love triangle during their time on carpool Karaoke 258 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: with James Gordon. 259 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: They set the record straight. So Nick was with Miley, 260 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: but they had an on again, off again thing going on, 261 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: so he got with Selena, but then he got back 262 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: with Miley, only to get back with Elena. 263 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: I feel wrong for being so interested in like high 264 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: school boyfriend girlfriend antics, but listen, it captured the world's 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: attention at the time, and can I just add that 266 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: for a bunch of dudes with purity rings, those Joe 267 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: bros kind of got around a lot, especially Nick girl. 268 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: But listen, in the end he ended up with neither. 269 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Priyanka Chopra Jonas wins this round. 270 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: She sure does. And Gomez at the time had written 271 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: a song titled I'm Sorry for her debut, inspired by 272 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm Gonna Call It a Situationship inspired by her situationship 273 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: with Nick Jonas. It was later retitled as I Won't Apologize. 274 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: The song is also her only writing credit. 275 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: On the album Interesting Now. During a live performance, Gomes 276 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: expressed about the song, I wrote the song because I 277 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,239 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people tend to change themselves 278 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: for let's be honest a boy, and that's what I did, 279 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: and I will never make that mistake again. Now, I'm sorry, 280 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not what you wanted me to be, but I'm 281 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: not gonna apologize for who I am. 282 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: I can relate one trially. I have an ex now 283 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: because I didn't change, I'm me me and selenaer and 284 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: I won't apologize. 285 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: No, and Selena didn't want to apologize. But I find 286 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: her quote interesting in the sense that I feel like 287 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: that sounds like somebody who was trying to be big 288 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: and bad and be like, this is never going to 289 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: happen to me. I'm so confident because we know that 290 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: in her next relationship, which was a very public relationship 291 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: with Bieber, she then had to go through this again. Right, 292 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: So there's a maturity that happens in her life that 293 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: is then expressed in her music. And all that to 294 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: say is a lot of us do this, Like we 295 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: take a moment where like this is never gonna happen 296 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: to me again, I'm strong, I'm rebuilt, and then it 297 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: happens again, and sometimes it happens again, and sometimes it 298 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: takes all of those times to happen for us to learn. 299 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: And I will say I think Selena has grown so 300 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: much from these relationships. But it did happen again, and 301 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: it gave us a lot to talk about, and it 302 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: gave her a lot of material to sing about. 303 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: With a chart topping album, Gomans went back to set 304 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: and continued acting, but everyone wanted more as soon as possible. 305 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Everyone's wish is her command, because she immediately teased her 306 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: upcoming album with the scene in February twenty ten. 307 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: It was named A Year Without Rain after the first 308 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: single off the album. She was heavily influenced by the 309 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: song and modeled to the record around it, and people 310 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: were loving it, but critics, yet again budding their noses 311 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: into everything, couldn't get past the auto tune. 312 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: Many felt that the label was trying to turn her 313 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: into another generic pop girly. 314 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: Instead of just letting her be herself. 315 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, stop, I can't handle your auto tune, please stop. 316 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: Whatever Selena was doing was working. Her sophomore album eventually 317 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: went gold. 318 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: One song called rock God even featured backup vocals from 319 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: Katie Perry. 320 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: And the band went on to win Favorite Breakout Artist 321 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: at thirty seven People's Choice Awards. They followed the success 322 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: by releasing their third studio album, When the Sun Goes Down, 323 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, Selena. 324 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: Hadn't been in a rush to make another album. She 325 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: was enjoying her time on set. 326 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: But they presented her with a potential track and he 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: was blown away. After hearing Who says, she knew she 328 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: had to get back into the studio. And the thing 329 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: about this album was that it was a little more 330 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: mature in its themes. But for listeners it didn't sound 331 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: too heavy. 332 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: So wait, wait, so it's not too light. It's not 333 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: too heavy, then what is it? 334 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: It's digestible, like, oh damn, bitch, that is perfect. I 335 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: mean for you. First of all. By the way, Joseph 336 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: loves Who says, you. 337 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: Guys, I would listen to this song all the time. Literally, 338 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: I am presidential, just so you know. 339 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: And I love that because you were certainly I'm not 340 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: saying you were old when you moved to New York, 341 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: but you were certainly not like of teeny bopper age listening. 342 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: Was a teen bopper of a certain age. 343 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: Okay, you were a retired teeny bopper. 344 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: I was a retired teeny bopper. 345 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: And it still spoke to you. And I agree. I 346 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: still think that, like out of all of the Selena songs, 347 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: that have come since then. I still think who Says 348 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: is like one of the best Selena songs. 349 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: No, and also one of the things that it came 350 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: out when all of these other che gas had these 351 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: self empowerment singles like we Are Who We Are from Kesha, 352 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: Katy Perry's fucking Firework, fucking Perfect by Pink, I mean, 353 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga is born this way and who Says? You 354 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to create a new little playlist 355 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: for myself with justice self empowerment singles right now. 356 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: I actually want in on that Spotify playlist, so please 357 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: send me the link and one thing I do have 358 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: to say, and I'm going to play like Devil's Advocate 359 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: to this because you're right, Okay, No, there was a 360 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: lot of these self empowerment singles happening at the same time, 361 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: like you just said, But I feel like this era 362 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: of Selena, while it was very digestible, very enjoyable, the 363 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: music didn't have a lot of soul. It didn't have 364 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: a north star. 365 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: Right. 366 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: She didn't know where she was going or where she 367 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: was headed. And I don't mean the to take away 368 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: from who she is at all, because she was really 369 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: young with this album but she wasn't writing this album right, 370 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: like her voice, her real voice, just purely if you 371 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: look at writing credits was not there. 372 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: It was written really commercially. 373 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and commercial is not a bad thing. You need 374 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: comm you need commercial hits to get the artist album. 375 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Like we learned this right, Bruno did it, j Loo did, 376 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: everybody does it. Everyone has. It's like one for me, 377 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: one for you. But I agree, I think for me, 378 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: this first series of albums with her band just didn't 379 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: feel like the Selena that I now know. And I'm 380 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: so grateful that she went through that and like we 381 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: got it out of our system because now she's like 382 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: to me because. 383 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: Now she's also helping us go through shit. 384 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again exactly, she is helping us heal. This 385 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: was commercially successful. All three of these albums that we 386 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: were just talking about were certified gold by the RIA. 387 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: The band was a success and this was great for 388 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: her musical career. Selena seemed to be on top of 389 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: the world, but. 390 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: By January twenty twelve, it was announced that the band 391 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: was going to have a brief hiatus, which is cold 392 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: for we are never ever ever getting back together. 393 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Selena was officially on a break from music, the Scene 394 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: was no more. By the age of sixteen, Selena was 395 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: stirring up the entertainment industry by balancing two very demanding careers. 396 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: At this same time, Selena. 397 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: Was thrown into the spotlight at a really, really young. 398 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: Age, which is why she took a break to focus 399 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: on one thing at a time. Originally, she had announced 400 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: that the reason for her band's hiatus was because she 401 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: was just taking a break from music. 402 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: She was going to focus on acting only. 403 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: And reassured everyone that Selena Gomez in the Scene would 404 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: be back. 405 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: Half of that was true, yeah. 406 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: And despite all of that, By March twenty thirteen, she 407 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: announced that she would be making music again. 408 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: But this time she was flying solo. 409 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: When it came to Selena, she took her time to 410 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: learn from those that surrounded her during her days with 411 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the Scene. In twenty seventeen, Selena opened up about what 412 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: it was like to be the lead singer for her band. 413 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: That to me was a very specific time in my life. 414 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: I think if you're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and you're trying 415 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: to sing about situations in life that you haven't experience, 416 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if that qualifies you as an artist, 417 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest with you, Okay, pause right there, 418 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what we were talking about. Right earlier 419 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: in the episode, we said we don't hear her voice 420 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: in this album. She's singing about things that she hasn't experienced, 421 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: which is why it sounded inauthentic. 422 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: After three albums, she finally felt comfortable enough to take 423 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: on the challenge on her own. 424 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: In April twenty thirteen, Selena released Come and Get It, Oh. 425 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: My God, an official banger of my adult life. 426 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, Disney, who like this girl stepped into 427 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: her own light. I think for the first time, Like 428 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: this was it for me? It was the Snake for Brittany, 429 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: right that moment on that VMA stage. For Brittany, I 430 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, there's no turning back now. Sometimes it's 431 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: a video, and I think for Selena it was this video. 432 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Now for you guys that are like, wait, what song 433 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: is that? Maybe you're a new Selena fan, maybe you 434 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: don't go back to old Selena. Okay, so come and 435 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: Get It, y'all. Was this kind of like follywoodesque song. 436 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: It had this table of beat and something about this 437 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: song when I heard it I was like, hmm, like, 438 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if Rihanna could sing this song. I think 439 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: it's funny. That's one of the things that I remember 440 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: thinking when I first heard this song, because when we 441 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: were researching for this episode, You guys, did you know 442 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: that the song was actually meant for Rihanna? 443 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Which is so crazy because this sounds like her. 444 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I know, you guys, if you have not listened to 445 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: come and get it, like in a while, like since 446 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: the album came out, please go listen to it and 447 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: watch the video and like just try not to like 448 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: have it infect your head all day long. You can't 449 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: escape it. Go and get it, okay. So Stars Dance, 450 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: her first official solo album, quickly followed this chart topping 451 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: single in July of twenty thirteen, and it became her 452 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: first album to debut at number one in the US. 453 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: For Stars Dance, she wanted to shed her Disney. 454 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: Persona American musician Jason Evagan, who worked on the record 455 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: with Selena, he elaborated on the new sound by saying, this, 456 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: she's not a little girl anymore. She wants to be 457 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: like that and be respected like the great pop artist 458 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: out there, and I think she is. I think this 459 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: album is really gonna blossom her into a new realm 460 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: of electric pop dance artist. I don't know that I 461 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: necessarily agree with the end of Jason's statement, Like I 462 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: fully get the I'm not a little girl vibe anymore, right, 463 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: But I don't think that that is where Selena saw herself, Like, 464 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't think she was like, I'm going to be 465 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: an electronic pop dance artist. 466 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: Day. It's so funny you say that, because I feel 467 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: like her song slowed Down is giving me like Gogga 468 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: rational electronic pop dance artist. 469 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was for sure a new sound and people 470 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: were talking about it, but we have to address the 471 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: elephant in the room. People were talking about this specific 472 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: album back then because Selena and Justin Bieber had been 473 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: in a very highly publicized, highly public relationship. Right. They 474 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: were together when she was writing this album. Then they 475 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: break up, but they rekindled the relationship just as the 476 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: album came out, So people thought they were going to 477 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: get relationship tea from the album, right and listen, there's 478 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: no bad press, right, Like, we know that. We've been 479 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: in the industry long enough to know that. But it 480 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: was a weird time for Selena and Justin. It was dramatic. 481 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: I was following the lives of like two teenagers like 482 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: they were my friends. 483 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: Uh, don't even I'm getting anxiety just thinking about it. 484 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this, And next time you listen 485 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: to this album, keep this in mind. Everyone wanted this 486 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: album to be about Justin. But let me leave you 487 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: with this tidbit. Okay, Selena did not write any of 488 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: the songs on this record. Wow, Okay, Selena took it. 489 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 490 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Problem solved. 491 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: Investigative entertainment. Sure, nah, list I can't take us. We 492 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: are doing the Lord's work here. 493 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 494 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: Selena had now become a household name like the performers 495 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: she had looked up to, to the point that she 496 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: was able to add a song to Stars Dance that 497 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: was highly coveted by another star. 498 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm sensing a little story time. 499 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: It's a short one, I promise, okay. So Miss Jayla 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: was working on her eighth studio album, AKA, and she 501 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: wanted the song called Save the Day. Both women had 502 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: worked with the writer, and Jennifer was in love with 503 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: the song, like she was ready to go to town 504 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: and fight a bit for this song. But in the end, 505 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: no matter how much Jayla wanted it, it wasn't enough. 506 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: Guess who got to keep the song sleeener hmm hmm, 507 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: Selina one, and it ended up on her solo debut album. 508 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: You know what, do you think Mariah was behind this? 509 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: Like payback for Tommy Metola stealing her track with Jaylo. 510 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I wish she was, because that would make it even 511 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: juicier and I would dig much more into the dramas. 512 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: But no, stop it right there, Do not send the 513 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: rumor mill a turt okay. Selena was working harder than 514 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: ever before. She began incorporating choreographed dance routines into the 515 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: album's music videos as well as her live. 516 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: Performances, and all of it was paying off. 517 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: In August twenty thirteen, she went on tour to promote 518 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: the album. 519 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: It was her first ever world tour, but. 520 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Four months later the tour was canceled. She claimed that 521 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: it was because she was taking a hiatus to spend 522 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: time with family. 523 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: At the time, no one really knew the tea, only 524 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: what the tabloids were quote unquote reporting. 525 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Eventually, news broke that Selena had spent two weeks at 526 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: dawn at the Meadows, a treatment center that specializes in 527 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: treating addiction and trauma in young people. 528 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: Her representatives were explicitly clear that sel wasn't there for substance. 529 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Abuse, which meant she was there for her mental health, 530 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: which will become a big part of Selena's growth, her identity, 531 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: and her forthcoming artist straight. While she took care of herself, 532 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: her contract with Hollywood Record stated that she still owed 533 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: them one more project. 534 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: So she released a compilation album titled for You, alongside 535 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: a new single titled The Heart Wants What It Wants 536 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 2: in November twenty fourteen. 537 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: When asked about the song, she shared this, I think 538 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: after this year, it's the perfect way to end a chapter. 539 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: In a way. 540 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: It's like, this is what I'll say about every single 541 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: person that has judged me for every decision that I've made, 542 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: for every person and heart that is being judged for 543 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: something they've done. And now I just want to release it. 544 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I know, Oh, I get Gooseby, I love Die right now, 545 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: I get serious, I know, I know, do you need 546 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: a tissue? 547 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm on my myriad. 548 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I remember she performed this song at the AMA's and 549 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: this was the first time that we had seen her 550 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: like this was her return to the spotlight. And I'm 551 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: getting goosebumps. I can't even talk right now. And if 552 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: you don't remember this performance, Joseph, do you remember it 553 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: or do you need me to like give you the visuals. 554 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: I want you to give me the visuals. I want 555 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: to paint the picture it was. 556 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: It was major. So she's wearing this like skin colored dress, right, 557 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: so it all like blends in. And then the background 558 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: had images as like dark lights, and there were thorns 559 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: and roses and like broken glass. And then the wings 560 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: appear behind her on the screen as to be like 561 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: I am literally like levitating, like taking myself away from 562 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: all of this, Like I'm giving myself my own fucking wings, right, the. 563 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Phoenix, the fucking feet neck. 564 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Yes, and then wait at the end, she adds the phrase, 565 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I thought you were the one. 566 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm crying. 567 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: I can't, I can we'd deceased. We're taking a break. 568 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: We need a manate, guys. After so many hardships, both 569 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: public and private, it seemed like Selena was ready to 570 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: reimagine who she was as a performer and a musician. 571 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: In October twenty fifteen, Selena was more than ready to 572 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: release the album that would change her music career. The 573 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: momentum felt. 574 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: Right with that Revival was born. 575 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Britney Spanos from Rolling Stone to find the album best. 576 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Revival is an audacious name for a twenty three year 577 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: old singer's second album, but from start to finish, Gomez 578 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: earns it this is the sound of a newly empowered 579 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: pop artist growing into her strengths like never before. 580 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: And every single song from this album was a hit, 581 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: same old love, good for You, hands to myself, kill 582 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: him with kindness. 583 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: Like. 584 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Revival is. When I remat Selenae, I'm like, oh my godship. 585 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: I revived my relationship with Selena with this album. And 586 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: again we go back to why does this album work? 587 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Because this is the most she was ever involved with 588 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: the writing process, and you hear it like she's a 589 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: hit maker, Like all of those songs are so good. 590 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 1: And what I love about her take on this album 591 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: is that she's super reflective but also really honest with herself. 592 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: She is so self aware, she says about this album. 593 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: I know I'm not the world's greatest singer, but I 594 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: do know that I have a unique tone and I'm 595 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: an actress. I love being able to translate everything I'm 596 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: feeling inside through my voice and through the songs. This 597 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: whole record is extremely intimate. This album is so good. 598 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: And you know, Joseph and I have said it over 599 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and over again, like we love Selena, like we love 600 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: this album, we love her as a person. 601 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it was just very intimating. 602 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: And by May twenty sixteen, she had plans for another 603 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: world tour, but she canceled the tour yet again due 604 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: to anxiety, panic attacks, and depression. 605 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 2: This time around, nobody knew if she'd come back from this, 606 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: not even her. 607 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Selena Gomez has become such a strong advocate for mental 608 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: health awareness. Her time in and out of these facilities, 609 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: as well as her struggle with her lupus diagnosis, forced 610 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: her into a period of isolation and loneliness. Once she 611 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: didn't think she could come out of Gomez went back 612 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: to rehab to focus on herself and was noticeably absent 613 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: from social media. But when she did come back, things 614 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: would be different Selena's career. 615 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 2: It had to mean something. She returned with the intention 616 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: of dedicating her life to spreading positivity. 617 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: She made her first public appearance at the twenty sixteen 618 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: American Music Awards and closed off the night by winning 619 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Favorite Pop Rock Female Artists. 620 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 2: She was also recognized as the Biggest triple threat at 621 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen iHeartRadio's Music Awards. 622 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Forbes added on to this by naming her one of 623 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Forbes thirty Under thirty with their musician category. 624 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Bitch, talk about a comeback. 625 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: She paced herself again, releasing only singles as she got 626 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: back into the groove of things. 627 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: There was it Ain't Me with DJ Kaigo. 628 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Fetish with Gucci Mane. 629 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh my God. That one was so. 630 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: Good, so good, and we also got Bad Liar. 631 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: So underrated. 632 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: Wait you really think so? You think like this one 633 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: should have been bigger? 634 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do, she speaks to me. 635 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: I know, I feel like you think this is like 636 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: one of her better songs. 637 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: I do. I mean, it's also just kind of like 638 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: have you seen the video? Yes, I was here for it. 639 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Listen, I love it. And by the end of twenty seventeen, 640 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Selena was named Billboard's Woman of the Year. What is 641 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: a woman to do with so many accolades and so 642 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: much recognition use the cloud to finally release that Spanish 643 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: album Almost but Yes. 644 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: With the change in the industry, meaning it was opening 645 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: itself to more Spanish language hits. After twenty sixteen, she 646 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: saw an opportunity I. 647 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Know right, like she saw Camilicabeo and Becky G doing it. 648 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: Why shouldn't Selena. In twenty eighteen, she featured on a 649 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: single alongside Ozuna and Cardi B for DJ Snake. 650 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: One Word but Say It Twice. 651 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: Ducky Becky it is catchy a f like. Oh. 652 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: What I loved about this song with her is that 653 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: she plays with afrobeats and now we get reggaeton. It's 654 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: my dream come true. 655 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: It was so unexpected for me from her and she. 656 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: One of you saw the video. She comes in almost 657 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 2: like a snake, like in the Garden of Eden. Oh 658 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: my gosh, it just looks so beautiful for me. 659 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: It was just time. We didn't know that we needed 660 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: like a Selena reggaethon mombathon song, which is like facts now, 661 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: just so you guys know, I did not know what 662 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: mombathon was before this episode. I think it's mumba mumbaton. Okay, 663 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: well that is house music mixed with reggathon. Why is why? 664 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: Why do I not know more mombaton artists? Like this 665 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: is my music this is my vibe now you know what? 666 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: On the next becoming and Mombaton. 667 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just us right like, this song was 668 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: massively huge. 669 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: Literally, the single achieved global success. 670 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: It received numerous awards, including Song of the Year at 671 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Latin American Music Awards and well Taki 672 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: Doaki was performing well. Selena wasn't ready for the full 673 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: Spanish treatment yet she went back to English. 674 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen. She released this single Lose You to 675 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: Love Me, and it became her first number one song 676 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 2: in the US, and then came Rare. 677 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, as they often do, put it best, her 678 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: third solo album is an act of divine ruthlessness. Gomez 679 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: dances out the toxins weighing her down and breathes in 680 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: loads of post Lizzo, fuck you, I Love. 681 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: Me energy and it was exactly what she wanted for 682 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 2: herself and what the fans wanted, and what happened. 683 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Rare became her third consecutive number one album in the US. 684 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: I hate going back to it, but we got to 685 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: go back to Justin in a good way. She's not 686 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: going back to like the toxicness of the relationship. She's 687 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: going back to self love and to find her healing 688 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: in the relationship, because you gotta go through the shit 689 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: to end up on the other side, right. 690 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: And it was just so like I don't want to 691 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: say romantic, but romantic because she was falling in love 692 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: with herself. 693 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: And I like, thank you for saying that about that. 694 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: I think that's why we've been so respectful and cautious 695 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: about talking so much about Justin when we talk about Selena, 696 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: because when she gave us Lose You to Love Me, 697 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: she said, like, I have released this, you guys need 698 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: to release this. I have moved past it. And so 699 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: when we talk about Selena and we talk about Justin, 700 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: like we're not trying to go back to that place, right, 701 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: And I want to be like very clear about that 702 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: for like everyone listening, Like when she gave us this song, 703 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: it was our turn to move on. And even now 704 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: when there's like all of this like petty drama that 705 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: happens online between the new missus Bieber Hayley and Selena, 706 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: like she squashes it immediately because she doesn't want to 707 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: go back there, Like she's past this shit. 708 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: And it's incredible how there's so much on her plate 709 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: emotionally and mentally, but she still doesn't stop. And not 710 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: just that Time magazine named her one of the one 711 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: hundred most influential people in the world. Then the Latin 712 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: Recording Academy honored her as the Leading Lady of Entertainment. 713 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: So it was as good a time as ever for 714 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: what Joseph. 715 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: It was finally time for her Spanish album. 716 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: Selena finally released her first Spanish language album, titled Revelation. 717 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: It came out in March twenty twenty one, and from 718 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: an outside perspective, it felt like witnessing someone finally feeling 719 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: at home with themselves. The EP had the biggest sales 720 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: week for a Latin album by a woman since wait 721 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: for it, Shakira's El Dorado in twenty seventeen. It also 722 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: earned Selena her very first Grammy nomination at the sixty 723 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: fourth edition of the awards for Best Latin Pop Album. 724 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: Entertainment weekly Is Marcus Jones calls her a far more 725 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: versatile musician than she's ever been given credit for. 726 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: Selena was in the most honest place she'd in years. 727 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: And you want to know what was next on her agenda? 728 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Radical truth, my mind and me would pull back the 729 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: curtain on what we thought she was going through and 730 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: reveal the brutal pain and heartbreak that our Selena had 731 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 1: actually been through. 732 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: On the next Becoming an Icon, we'll dive into my 733 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: mind and me and. 734 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: Chart her rise from a Disney darling to sharing the 735 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: stage with the Martins, the legendary Steve Martin and Martin Short. 736 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: Plus her reign as the Queen of Beauty Talk. 737 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: Becoming an Icon is presented by Sonoo and Iheart's Michael 738 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: Duda podcast network. 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