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Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back to Roughfresh. This is Jake

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Speaker 1: Koefer and we have a great episode here from a

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Speaker 1: handful of folks across the Midwest. We have Phil Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Visson, Ben Mosley, and Jared Larson giving their most

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Speaker 1: recent RUT report for one of the most exciting weeks

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Speaker 1: of the year. And now we're approaching potentially a little

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Speaker 1: bit harder, but still a great amount of opportunity here

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Speaker 1: coming up, and we're going to talk about some things

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Speaker 1: to consider. You still have that tag in your pocket,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're struggling. Here's some words of encouragement

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Speaker 1: and some strategy that can help you over the next

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Speaker 1: seven days. I hope you guys enjoy it. As you know.

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Speaker 1: and get things started here with Phil Lincoln in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: All right, first up on the line, we have Phil Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: who recently tagged a buck in Indiana. Phil, how does

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Speaker 1: it feel? You know, it's always bittersweet, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like it takes the pressure off. You know, the

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Speaker 1: hard work pays off. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: done in Indiana. Fortunately have a piece of property right

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Speaker 1: across the border in Illinois and have landowner tags, so

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Speaker 1: I just kind of get to focus on Illinois, which yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a good thing. I saw your post on

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Speaker 1: I saw your post on Facebook, and I feel everyone

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Speaker 1: has weird superstitions this time of year, because it feels like,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, a little bit of luck is needed, whether

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Speaker 1: we all want to admit it or not, and you

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Speaker 1: bust it out your lucky half. How much do you

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Speaker 1: think that had to play into your success here? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, who knows. I think, you know, with everything,

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Speaker 1: we make our own luck. You know, I was in

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Speaker 1: a based on the time of the year, I was

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Speaker 1: in a rut funnel, and you know I shot a

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Speaker 2: So you know, the one thing about a rut funnel.

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Speaker 1: Is and especially if you're connected to a big chunk

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Speaker 1: you may see the bucks that you have on camera

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Speaker 1: and you may see totally different ones, so you know,

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Speaker 1: and so uh, this breakdown that funnel is for someone

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Speaker 1: to understand it. Did you have where was your sat blowing?

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Speaker 1: Do you think there was bedding nearby? Kind of just

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Speaker 1: paint that picture if you can, so people can get

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Speaker 1: understanding what worked for you. So so I think there's

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Speaker 1: that's got some real steep banks that they're clearly not

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not crossing the creek in that point.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm on a Depending on which direction the

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Speaker 1: So in Alaska, like moose hunting or brown bear hunting

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Speaker 1: a few hours can seem like a lifetime of nothing happening, right.

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Speaker 1: But what I have found, some of the biggest trophies

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Speaker 1: And it usually it seems like whether you're sitting in

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Speaker 1: luck changes it. You know, if you're really serious and

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Speaker 2: It's just it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: That's great advice.

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Speaker 3: Is there any.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that sticks out to you to be

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Speaker 1: Or I'll put on a red cap, which you usually

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Speaker 1: But I would say, you know, I would switch off

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Speaker 1: The the problem with hunting food plots is is you know,

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Speaker 2: Gather up your stuff, get down the tree.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you've got if you've got good

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Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's what I'm that's

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Speaker 1: And I've done I've done a bunch of research on this,

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Speaker 1: and I've done a little bit of writing. I haven't

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Speaker 2: But you know, how we sneak into our tree stands.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're meticulous about keeping our boots clean and

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Speaker 2: You go there, and then you know.

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Speaker 1: Later in the morning you got a three year old

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Speaker 1: dough walks exactly. Your path comes to the base of

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Speaker 1: been there, We've all been there, and I can tell

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Speaker 1: you the most overlooked thing I think that everybody is

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Speaker 2: It's your breath. Interesting, it's your breath.

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Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it, nobody covers it. Yet that's how

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Speaker 1: your face. I've started. I started wearing a mask to

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Speaker 1: It just sucks. I mean, it takes all it takes

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Speaker 5: It was a real It was a real emotional rollercoaster.

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Speaker 6: I hit a buck bad on Tuesday, hit him high,

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Speaker 6: Lutily, luckily there was some pines, so he as he's

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Speaker 5: So I came over my bridge. But still is very acrobatic.

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Speaker 5: The arrow had blood on it, but there was no blood.

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Speaker 4: Come out coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: That's November, November, white tales and a nuts.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, man, it's a lot,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm going to weigh.

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Speaker 1: And so now from the twelfth of the nineteenth, what

437
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: do you say to that guy that's like, Man, I'm struggling.

438
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm struggling. I'm starting to get in my own head.

439
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the fundamentals of what I need to be

440
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: doing this time of year. For that guy, what do

441
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: you tell them?

442
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: I I you know, I grew up. I'm like fast

443
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 5: and furious.

444
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 6: And there's a quote when the young guy's drag Race

445
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 6: and the old guy and he hits the nitrous too

446
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 6: soon and he doesn't make it to the finish line,

447
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 6: and then Dominic Turetto says, too soon, Junior, and then

448
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 6: he hits it at the end and he wins. Social

449
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: media really accelerates people's thinking. I think now that they

450
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 6: gotta get it done. Everybody's getting it done. I haven't

451
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 6: got it done. And you're you are right. We are

452
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 6: coming to the peak of the mountain. So you you

453
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 6: climb up the peak of the mountain and we'll call

454
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 6: the peak of the mountain. We're probably there right now

455
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 6: as we're recording this. It's what the seventh, It's Bill Winkie.

456
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: Day, It's National Tree Stand Bill Winki Day.

457
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a buck hanging from my back tree.

458
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 6: Bill Winky left me broadheads under it. But we got

459
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 6: a whole downside of the mountain to come down and

460
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 6: it doesn't get bad for a long time.

461
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: I took.

462
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 6: My whole point is I wouldn't be an any state

463
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 6: of panic in any capacity.

464
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: I if you give me.

465
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: An option to hunt from November fifteenth to the end

466
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 6: of the year or November fifteenth to October first, I

467
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 6: would take November fifteenth to the end of the year.

468
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 6: Easy decision for me. I know a lot of the

469
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 6: deer have been killed, but I feel like a lot

470
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 6: of the bigger and smarter deer that have made it

471
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 6: through a deer season they have made it through a

472
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 6: deer season and I've just had a lot of success

473
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 6: late season. I feel like the woods empties out. And

474
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 6: I also think it's worth mentioning. I've heard a lot,

475
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 6: and it's for years people say lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, like

476
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 6: it's a bad thing. Lockdown that I love. Lockdown, Like

477
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 6: you're telling me the deer is in a place like

478
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 6: and he's staying there.

479
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 5: That's a gift. So and when the deer.

480
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 6: Lockdown, it's like a dog with a bone and another

481
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 6: dog goes to it and it's guards it. Those deer

482
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 6: almost get like in zombie mode where you can almost

483
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 6: like go in and throw stuff at them and they

484
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 6: won't leave.

485
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they won't leave.

486
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: So when the.

487
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 6: Lockdown lockdown phase happens, the deer do stop ranging quite

488
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 6: so much. But if you know where the dough betting

489
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 6: is and where the heavy cover is and where a

490
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 6: buck wants to push a dough to breed them, you

491
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 6: just got to get into those spots and you can

492
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 6: literally walk in on those deer and push them out

493
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 6: of there.

494
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: And they don't.

495
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 6: Like to leave. They don't like to leave. So if

496
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 6: you're a mobile hunter and you have flexibility. I understand

497
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 6: that if you are sitting over you know, maybe a

498
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 6: food source, and you're not mobile, and the deer aren't

499
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 6: moving as much, and they're not willing to run across

500
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 6: the open field in the middle of the day because

501
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: they're tucked up in heavy cover with a dough. But

502
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 6: I like to hunt that heavy cover, so I guess,

503
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: you know, to put a bow on that. I love

504
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 6: what's coming, like, I'm excited for what's coming. Plus, our

505
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 6: gun season opens November fifteenth, m hm, So it's almost.

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: Basically another basically another Michigan national holiday. You guys have

507
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: a lot of holidays in November that a lot of

508
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: people don't recognize. You got Bill Winkie Day, and you

509
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: have opening Day a gun season in Michigan.

510
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, November fifteenth is a special day and it marks

511
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: the kickoff of our gun season. And then where I live,

512
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 6: I get it's a rate around the same time where

513
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 6: I start to get snow.

514
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: So it's a big reset for me.

515
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 6: It opens up a whole new deer season because I

516
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 6: can start tracking and doing some things that I can't

517
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 6: do without snow. I know that that's you know, not

518
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 6: for every everybody doesn't have that situation. But I really

519
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 6: love when we get to that time of the year.

520
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 6: But the best is the best is yet to come

521
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 6: in in my opinion, and I love If I had

522
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 6: to pick one week, I would pick the week of Thanksgiving.

523
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 6: Every time, I've had more big deer walk during daylight

524
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: hours and the last week of November historically than anything

525
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: else that I see through the year. And we get

526
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 6: you know, we get hundreds or thousands of video and

527
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 6: photo submissions from people that use our synthetic scent products.

528
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 6: The sample size that I have seen is with our

529
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 6: community is very It lines up with what I have

530
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 6: seen personally, and a lot of deer, big deer late

531
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: November because like I said, they've been through a deer

532
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 6: season before, they've been chased before. You know, they've been

533
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 6: through it for three or four years, and they know

534
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 6: how to they know how to slide through that period

535
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 6: and they understand a lot of people I think are

536
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: out of the woods by that time of year, and

537
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 6: they get one, they get there's less people in the woods,

538
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 6: and two we come down the backside of the mountain,

539
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 6: there's not as many doughs like uh.

540
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: I've experienced multiple times where I'm mature.

541
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: Dose dose will go to Bucks like they don't even

542
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 6: have to go out and run crazy to breed, right,

543
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 6: But that might not be the case come like November

544
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: twenty if through twenty fifth, something like that. And I've

545
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 6: just consistently seen it for years where that is such

546
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 6: a golden opportunity. But a lot of people like I said,

547
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 6: too soon, Junior's.

548
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: That's perfect, perfect way to describe it. So either go

549
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: get another boost of nitrous the remainder of this month,

550
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: or realize that it is truly a marathon and not

551
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: a sprint. As cliche as that sounds, it's it is.

552
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 6: You can't just start a marathon off sprinting, or you're

553
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 6: not gonna make it. And you got to be conscious

554
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 6: that social media will lead you to believe that everybody's

555
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 6: got their buck and the thing is over.

556
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: But it's it's you know, it's not the case.

557
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, congratulations once again, Kevin. Uh. When's

558
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: when's the footage gonna go live? Is it next year?

559
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: This year? Soon?

560
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 6: I imagine we'll put something short format together here in

561
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: the uh in the coming weeks just so people can

562
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 6: have a look at it. But we we have a

563
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 6: Hunt series on our YouTube at Deer Hunter Podcast, and

564
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 6: I'll save the long format story for next year and

565
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: then hopefully you have even bigger one.

566
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

567
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: Wrap my next tag around to love it bigger one

568
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 6: here in the coming weeks.

569
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: So love it well. Congratulations was again uh and man,

570
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: good luck on the next one.

571
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: Thanks Jake.

572
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: All right, we got Ben Moseley with White Tail Lane

573
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Designs who just smoked his target buck in Wisconsin. How

574
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: does it feel?

575
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 7: It feels pretty good. Feels good like a big weight

576
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 7: off your shoulders. A lot of people knew about.

577
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: That, dear, so a lot of people were hunting that

578
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: same dear.

579
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

580
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 7: He I mean prior to that, he'd been shot at twice.

581
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 7: So neighbor neighbor just over the hill shot at him.

582
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 7: They've got a stand right on our fence line, m so.

583
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 7: And then and then I shot at him too.

584
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: If you had a swing and a miss, I had

585
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: a swing.

586
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: And a miss.

587
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 7: It was like it was the like when was it

588
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: the eighth, no seventh or the eighth of October? I

589
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 7: just found him, like on the first and I had

590
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 7: to leave to drive back down to Louisiana and then

591
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 7: we were going to Hawaii. For my wife's birthday. So

592
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 7: he comes out fifty five yards. I'm like, oh, I can,

593
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 7: I can do this, set my sight and then I

594
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 7: intentionally hang hold low and I watched the air like

595
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 7: as it goes, I'm like, that's low shit it the

596
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 7: fletching must have touched is his hair, and he just

597
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 7: jumps and pretty thick cover. He went like ten yards

598
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 7: and then disappeared and walked about twenty yards for me,

599
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 7: but in a bunch of really thick stuff and just

600
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 7: walked off. But uh, he was back on camera the

601
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 7: next day in the same area. He had no idea,

602
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 7: but I'd set my site pin in the rush of

603
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 7: it everything because he was in such thick like CRP.

604
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 7: I'd set it at fifty one and I said it

605
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 7: right at fifty five, pretty sure you would.

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: Have been dead. But whatever, right I shot him, it.

607
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Still worked out. Yeah, So let's talk about it. So

608
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: it's November seventh, right now. You connected with them on

609
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: November sixth. What's the activity been like as far as

610
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, Like, let's say, what was November fourth and fifth,

611
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: and then obviously sixth it came together here, But what's

612
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: been the activity here?

613
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 7: Okay, So November fourth. I mean, we've had really high

614
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 7: winds up here, so it was pretty slow. Evenings have

615
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 7: been really slow up here in general camera activity. Everybody

616
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: talking about it, just because of the really high winds

617
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 7: that we have, warmer temps than normal.

618
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: Mornings have been pretty good.

619
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 7: November fifth, I saw the buck and he'd actually gone

620
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 7: into my parents' yard.

621
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: I'll send you the video. It might actually be on

622
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: my Instagram.

623
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 7: I forgot, but my dad said, up a decoy down

624
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 7: there is like, hey, let's just see what happens. And

625
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 7: he's drinking his morning coffee looking out the front window.

626
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: A little buck.

627
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 7: Comes down, and then he comes down, He squares up

628
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 7: with the decoy, sends the decoy flying, and then walked

629
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 7: twenty yards from the house.

630
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: So and then he walked back up the hill.

631
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 7: Walks towards me, and he skirts me about fifty some

632
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 7: yards just in thick cover and goes and beds down.

633
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 7: And then I didn't I saw him again later that

634
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: night on the other side of the farm at like

635
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 7: eight pm on camera.

636
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: SO and so governing some distance obviously a RT mentality

637
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: that he's fighting decoys in the yard. And then on

638
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: the six kind of walk us through that game plan

639
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: on how you set up and made it happen.

640
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 7: Okay, So I have a stand. It's about one hundred

641
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: yards from this house. And the way this property is

642
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: is it's you You're basically hunting from the inside out.

643
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 7: It's it's not like you're accessing from your normal roads

644
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 7: or your egg fields. So I have this stand that

645
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 7: is east of the house, about maybe one hundred yards.

646
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: It's down in the bottom. There's a pretty deep ditch.

647
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 7: A lot of stuff has been pushed into it because

648
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 7: I did a lot of doser work up here to

649
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 7: open up the egg fields, and so deer just they

650
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 7: won't cross right there. And when you've got i mean

651
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 7: your sun rises from the east, and I've got a

652
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 7: great big rock formation up there that blocks the sun

653
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 7: this time of year until about ten ten thirty in

654
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 7: the morning, So thermals don't do what thermals will normally

655
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 7: do and start rising.

656
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 4: They're they're rushing, so rushing down the hill.

657
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 7: So as long as I've got a steady, calm east wind,

658
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 7: nothing's gonna nothing's gonna win me. So that's where I said,

659
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: and I actually almost slept in for the first time

660
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 7: yesterday morning. But I have this this drive where if

661
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 7: I don't do it, it's gonna eat at me. So

662
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 7: I got to the stand probably like five minutes before light,

663
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 7: and uh, shortly after setting up, I hear it Doe

664
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 7: blowing and this the doze in this area.

665
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: They're getting really spooky.

666
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 7: I've watched Doe and Fawns blow at Bucks already this year,

667
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 7: so I'm assuming she's being her assed. And uh, shortly later,

668
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 7: about ten minutes after I hear it blowing, she walks

669
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 7: twenty yards in front of me on a logging road

670
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 7: and she stops and she stares, and I'm like, okay,

671
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: she looks like she's looking at me, but I can

672
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 7: tell she's looking through me. I'm like, there's something behind me,

673
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 7: but I can't hear anything or just off to my right.

674
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 7: And finally I hear a really deep, deep grunt and

675
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 7: she sits there and stares some more and starts blowing again.

676
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 7: So I'm like, okay, like that, it's got to be him.

677
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 7: My assumption is is him. They seem to kind of

678
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 7: push everything out of the area except for a few

679
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: year and a half.

680
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: Year old Bucks.

681
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 7: And she walks off and I see I finally see

682
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 7: him out of the corner of my eye. And I

683
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 7: see him. I'm like, he's coming right for the tree.

684
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, please do not walk behind me. I'm like,

685
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 7: if you walk behind me, you're gonna win me. Because

686
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 7: my thermals were right there. But there's one little narrow

687
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 7: path like three feet he would have been right on

688
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 7: the tree. He ended up bearing and he went in

689
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 7: front of the tree. I watched him through the platform.

690
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 7: I'm sitting watching them through the platform walk underneath me.

691
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: He's locked on the dough.

692
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: His eyes are locked on the dough, and I finally

693
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 7: just slowly stand up, grab my bow and shoot him

694
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 7: hardquartering away at fifteen yards and he piles up on

695
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 7: the logging road of it after fifty yards and.

696
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: Pretty Yeah.

697
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, that's that's what November is all about,

698
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: those moments right there, that's what everyone's working towards. And

699
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: so for folks that still have their tag in their pockets,

700
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: so I want you to shift gears to November twelfth. Yeah,

701
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: so it's November twelfth, we still have a tag in

702
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: your pocket. Maybe something didn't quite go right, maybe you

703
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: feel like you're hunting a ghost. What would you tell

704
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: that person for this upcoming week, so November twelfth to

705
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: the seventeenth.

706
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 7: Keep on with the grind. I tell a lot of

707
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 7: people like the rut. The rout really sucks. Really when

708
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 7: you think about it, it's not super fun to hunt

709
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 7: because you're in you're sitting there, and it can be

710
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 7: extremely boring. I mean, hours on stand the dos have

711
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 7: been harassed to the point where they just don't want

712
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: to get her assed anymore. So they're kind of hanging tight.

713
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 7: You're waiting for one buck to get up and move through.

714
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 7: Maybe you'll see like a yearling every once in a while,

715
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 7: but then all of a sudden, you've got like thirty

716
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 7: seconds of just crazy action. Your heart gets beating, and

717
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 7: then it's dead again. That's what everybody's waiting for. You

718
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 7: just got to keep a positive mindset, keep with grind,

719
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 7: keep your butt planet in a tree stand. Do not

720
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 7: sit there and like hunt based off of camera intel,

721
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 7: because if you have a buck on camera, you already

722
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 7: missed him.

723
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: He's gone, he went through that area.

724
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 7: And honestly, running cameras and funnels is kind of hard

725
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 7: because usually, I mean a funnel doesn't always bottleneck down

726
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 7: to like ten yards to where camera is really effective.

727
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: It's probably a fifty sixty.

728
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 7: Yard wide funnel and the bucks just kind of run

729
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 7: through there.

730
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think Tho's really good advice as far

731
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: as maybe someone's struggling on man, you know it the

732
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: activity is slowing down, and you know the dose are

733
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: definitely harassed. I've definitely pressured the farm. Like these are

734
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: things that all going through their mind right now. Is

735
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: there any odd ball, throw a dart idea that you

736
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: have for someone that's just like, dude, I've tried everything,

737
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: I've hunted my spots, and I'm seeing less and less, dear,

738
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: and I just I feel out of the game. Do

739
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: you stick with the plan or do you call an

740
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: audible or tear through and scout a little bit?

741
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 7: I mean, scouting at this time of year, to me

742
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 7: is kind of a crap shoot because if you go

743
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 7: and you find a bunch of rubs, more than likely

744
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 7: those rubs were done either when he was with the

745
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 7: dough and frustrated and he's already moved on from that area,

746
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 7: or they were done most likely late October when they are.

747
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: Rubbing a lot, or really early in November when they're rubbing.

748
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 7: A lot scrapes. They kind of fall off the scrapes.

749
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 7: I'll actually notice a lot of bucks on camera this

750
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 7: time of year. They'll actually skirt on the down wind

751
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 7: side of scrapes and I'll just scent check it real quick,

752
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 7: unless it's a scrape they've never visited before. I've got

753
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 7: videos of this buck actually even walking by a scrape

754
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 7: that I know they've never been to before, and they'll

755
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 7: put the brakes on and then they'll go visit it.

756
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 7: But then after that they'll treat it like every other

757
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: scrape and they'll just walk past it and.

758
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: Check it.

759
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 7: So I would just say the best thing for you

760
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 7: is to plant your butt in a funnel. If there's

761
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 7: a water hole on it, that's even better, because that's

762
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 7: like the one thing that Bucks will go out of

763
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 7: their way for this time of the year is water.

764
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 7: Stay off the food sources, because if there's any does

765
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 7: on food sources, it's really late at night in my

766
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 7: area for cameras. I'm starting to just see on my

767
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 7: farms just fonns wandering by themselves, a year and a

768
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 7: half year old bucks moving quite a bit, so that

769
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 7: kind of tells me that they're with DOES, right now

770
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 7: or a lot of doughs. So I'm guessing here, in

771
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 7: about twenty four to forty eight hours, I'm gonna see

772
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 7: a big flurry of activity on those cameras of newer

773
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: Bucks running through, going all over the place, and it's

774
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 7: going to be another another forty eight to seventy two

775
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 7: hours of nothing.

776
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking here the extended forecast Saturday, November fifteenth, high

777
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: of sixty nine here in north central Illinois. What do

778
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: you say for that guy that has the Saturday off.

779
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: He's like, it's November fifteenth, it's almost seventy degrees. Do

780
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I even go? What do you say to that guy?

781
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: Don't use that as an excuse not to go.

782
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 7: The biggest book I've ever killed was on Halloween in

783
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 7: nineteen mile an hour winds and it was seventy degrees

784
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 7: that day and he was bumping doze all over the place.

785
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so stick with them, Yeah, just stick with it.

786
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 7: This time of year, anything can happen. It's just a grind.

787
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 7: I mean, you just have to be in the stand.

788
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: To do it.

789
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 7: That's everybody loves the rut because it's when the most

790
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 7: action happens. And I just yeah, temperature definitely helps movement,

791
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: but I think it's helping the doze moving than the

792
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 7: bucks have to kind of keep up with them. But

793
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: when that dough gets up after she's locked down with him,

794
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 7: that buck's gonna get up and he's gonna he's gonna

795
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 7: move and maybe just a short distance, but maybe that's

796
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 7: all it takes.

797
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So looking, you know, knowing that we're gonna have

798
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: some elevated temperatures between the twelfth and call it, I

799
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: guess the nineteenth. On a scale one to ten, what

800
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: what would you put this? This is that becoming week

801
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: as far as potential big buck activity.

802
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 7: So we here we actually have a huge cold front

803
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 7: coming I think.

804
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: This weekend. But yeah, so we gotta this will go

805
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: live on the twelfth.

806
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, I mean elevated temperatures Again, anything

807
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 7: can happen.

808
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: Does it suck? Yeah? Are they gonna move a little

809
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: bit more at night? Can it happen? Yeah?

810
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 7: The chips aren't exactly stacked completely in your favor, but

811
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 7: it's all right. The rut stop. Just I really dislike

812
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 7: like hunting forecast apps. I want to if you if

813
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 7: you take like a bunch of them, you compare themselves.

814
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 7: They contradict each other all the time, and then you'll

815
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 7: do that. Yeah, You'll sit there and you'll look at

816
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 7: it and be like, oh, this says it's a good day,

817
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, thirty minutes later, it

818
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 7: says it's slow.

819
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 4: And so.

820
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Scale one to ten. Yeah, scale one to ten with

821
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: elevated temps from the twelfth to nineteenth. Where do you

822
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: put it? You gotta we gotta put a hard number on.

823
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: It, probably like six.

824
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, probably it's sick.

825
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give it like uh ten,

826
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 7: because again, you don't have the perfect temperatures.

827
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: But it's the rut you.

828
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Think it happened. Yeah, anything comes down to mindset. That's right. Well,

829
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: congratulations on tagging your target buck here man. That that

830
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: is awesome. That's what everyone's that's what everyone's chasing here.

831
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: So congratulations, you made it happen, and I appreciate you

832
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: hopping on here.

833
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, all right.

834
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: Next up on the line, we have Jared Larson with

835
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: on ex Jared, how was your November seventh?

836
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 8: Uh? My November seventh was mostly in my car, but

837
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 8: I did get did get to the destination for an

838
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 8: evening sit. It was not overbly memorable, but we were.

839
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 8: It was exploratory, so it was it was solid, saw

840
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 8: some new ground, put the boots on some dirt.

841
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm feeling real good about the next week.

842
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. And so you just

843
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: wrapped up a hunt in Wisconsin. What was the rud activity,

844
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: deer activity? What was going on up there?

845
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

846
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 8: I was in Wisconsin the last week and we had

847
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 8: some really good sits and some really tough sits. You know, personally,

848
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 8: I definitely am a little bit of a subscriber to

849
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 8: the full moon.

850
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: Which obviously just kind of peaked full.

851
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 8: And I really seem in my anecdotal personal experience that

852
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 8: waxing to the full I do a lot better on

853
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 8: the evening sits.

854
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: Uh, And that that held true this past week. I

855
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: shot a really good buck.

856
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 8: And uh, I mean, he couldn't have cared less about

857
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 8: the dos in the field. He was just on a

858
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 8: marching mission, laying down scrapes. I mean he literally walked

859
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 8: five yards from you know, four dos and never even

860
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 8: looked at him.

861
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: So, you know, I'll take him how I can get him.

862
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: But he wasn't too interested in the ladies.

863
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 8: We had lots of young deer chasing, you know, a

864
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 8: year and a half, two and a half year old deer,

865
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 8: three and a half year old deer.

866
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: But the mature bucks that we did.

867
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 8: See, you know, really really weren't paying that close of

868
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: attention to the ladies.

869
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, So what date did you shoot that buck?

870
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember the shot?

871
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: That book?

872
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 8: On?

873
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: November third?

874
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: The evening of November.

875
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Third, beautiful day. That's a great day to be a

876
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: deer hunter.

877
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: That yep, it historically has been one of my best.

878
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So going into Iowa. Now, so you you packed

879
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: up as November seventh, and how long do you are

880
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: you pointing to be hunting in Iowa?

881
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 8: Yep, So I'll be in Iowa, i believe if Sunday

882
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 8: is the seventeenth, and I'll have to head back to

883
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 8: Montana on the seventeenth. So we got we got a

884
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 8: good full eight nine days of lundon here.

885
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: Perfect, Okay. So obviously, unfortunately we're recording this, we have

886
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: like the cold front of the year where this is

887
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: likely going to be one of the best activity spurts

888
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: of the year. So when this goes live, hopefully everyone

889
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: has had so much success. They don't even have to

890
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: tune into rough Fresh because they don't need to know

891
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: what's going on, because I already tagged a giant. So

892
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: but for folks that didn't, so like November twelfth to

893
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: the nineteenth, looking at some potential elevated temperatures, where's your

894
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: head at?

895
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

896
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 8: You know, you know here and I will obviously as

897
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 8: you mentioned, that cold front is going to be passed

898
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 8: by that point, and I think we're looking at lows

899
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 8: in the like high twenties, low thirties, heating up to

900
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 8: the low sixties during the day, which I really don't

901
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 8: mind that for Iowa here, you know, the late mornings

902
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 8: is really what I'm going to be keyed up on again,

903
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 8: that waning moon after the full I really am a

904
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 8: firm believer in that eight thirty nine am to twelve

905
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 8: thirty one pm timeframe. I'm going to be really keyed

906
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 8: up on, you know, the down wind side of dough betting.

907
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 6: Uh.

908
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 8: And you know, being a guy just like you that

909
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 8: hunts a fair amount of public and a fair amount

910
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 8: of private, I one thing that lulls me to sleep

911
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: when I'm hunting private ground is I look at the

912
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 8: wind to not get busted by deer, rather than looking

913
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 8: at the wind to understand how a deer is going

914
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 8: to use that wind. And so that's really something I

915
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 8: always have the option to go mobile if the wind

916
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 8: is going to be you know, let's say we have

917
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 8: a west wind, I'm really going to be keyed up

918
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 8: on those east faces where those deer can put the

919
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 8: wind at their back that security blanket. So I really

920
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 8: try to take my public land hunting mindset into private.

921
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: Land when I when I'm hunting the.

922
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 8: Rut and just really focusing on what are those deer

923
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 8: going to be doing, how are they going to be

924
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 8: using that wind to their advantage, rather than just so

925
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 8: solely focused on playing the wind to not get busted.

926
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 8: I mean to be super candid with you, sometimes I

927
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 8: throw caution to.

928
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: The wind this time of year.

929
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 8: You know, if I have a spot that I am

930
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 8: hot to trot on and I just have a good

931
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 8: feeling about it, I'll hunt a bad wind this time

932
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 8: of year.

933
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: And it's really the only time of year that I'll

934
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: do that.

935
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 8: So that's what I'm gonna be keyed in on, especially

936
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 8: in the mornings, is you know that downwind side of

937
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 8: dough betting. I'm in some hillier country, so I'm gonna

938
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 8: use the topography to my advantage, using the light hour

939
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 8: feature on on X to really find those small nuanced draws, benches,

940
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 8: drainages where those deer can put the put the wind

941
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 8: at their back, and you know, find that good betting

942
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 8: and be down wind to that.

943
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: And then in the evenings.

944
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 8: You know, a lot of times I'll be pulling all

945
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 8: day sits for the most part, but that does not

946
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 8: mean I'm gonna be sitting in the same tree all day.

947
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 8: You know, I'll hunt a morning set on the down

948
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 8: wind side of dough betting, but then I'll move to

949
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 8: food h in the evening, trying to find those dos

950
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 8: because those bucks obviously are going to be keyed up

951
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 8: on those those major food sources. So where I'm at,

952
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 8: we don't have a whole lot of food plots, but

953
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 8: we got egg up the wazoo, as most people do

954
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 8: in Iowa. So I really prefer corn this time of

955
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 8: year over beans, so I'll be I'll be looking to

956
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 8: find some corn fields, find those edges, and you know,

957
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 8: early on finding those observation sets. It's hard to do

958
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 8: an observation sit sometimes when you're trying to kill them

959
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 8: during the rut, But it can really pay dividends to

960
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 8: just understand where those dos are coming from, because that

961
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 8: also gives you just that tip of the hat as

962
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 8: far as knowledge goes on where they're betting. That way,

963
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 8: you can just continually reposition yourself to be being the

964
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 8: best plot possible because even on private land, you know,

965
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 8: you think.

966
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: You know it like the back of your hand, but

967
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: sometimes you can find just.

968
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 8: A tricky little spot that that's kind of an aha,

969
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 8: light bulb moment.

970
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. How closely have you been paying attention to

971
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: the deer movement forecast and onyx have you been? Have

972
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: you been testing this each day? Like, well, this is

973
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: above average below average based off of because that's a

974
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: new that's a new feature that I think a lot

975
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: of people don't know about. You just clicked the weather icon.

976
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: I had to ask you how to do it. So

977
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: what have you been seeing with this? Has it been

978
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: matching up?

979
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

980
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 8: So I've been trying to take daily screenshots like a

981
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 8: couple of days out for the deer movement forecast day of.

982
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: And honestly, dude, I've been I've been pretty impressed.

983
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 8: I would say that our deer movement forecast is maybe

984
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 8: a little bit pessimistic in our percent chance of movement,

985
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 8: but I'm okay with that.

986
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: I'd rather tell people they have a fifty percent chance

987
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: been one hundred percent chance.

988
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 8: Because, as every single one of you listening knows, there

989
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 8: is no one hundred percent chance day. Uh and if

990
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 8: nothing else, you know, use that deer movement forecast as

991
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 8: that little subtle nudge to uh not watch football on

992
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 8: Sunday and get your butt out to a tree stand

993
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 8: if it's gonna be you know, above a forty percent movement.

994
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: Chance, you know.

995
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 8: And it's all based on you know, data from machine learning,

996
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 8: trail camera photo intake, as well as all the typical

997
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 8: weather parameters barometric pressure, temperature, moon phase, all that stuff

998
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 8: goes into account.

999
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: So I've definitely been paying attention to it.

1000
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 8: But as with any piece of technology, the only way

1001
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 8: to not kill a deer is to not be hunting.

1002
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Perfectly well said, that is the essence and epitome of

1003
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: November deer hunting. But for the guy that's like, man,

1004
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: I've just been getting my teeth kicked in. I'm do

1005
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: I even know how to deer hunt, Like I'm doing

1006
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: everything wrong is what it feels like. What do you

1007
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: say to that guy, Because there's a lot of people

1008
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: that are going to feel like this if they don't

1009
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: capitalize on this cold front that happens before this goes live.

1010
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 9: You know, I think the word it's a grind gets

1011
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 9: used a lot in the whitetail world especially, And at

1012
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 9: the end of the day, if you're feeling like it's

1013
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 9: a grind, take a day off, you know, sweep.

1014
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: In until eight thirty in the morning, go out there at.

1015
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 8: Nine am and hunt that like cruisan scent check in

1016
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 8: time of the day, you know, if you're not having fun,

1017
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 8: but like, take take a break. Hunting is supposed to

1018
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 8: be fun. It's supposed to be enjoyable, you know. I

1019
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 8: think everybody wants to chase that five and a half

1020
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 8: six and a half, you know, seven and a half

1021
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 8: year old deer. But at the end of the day, man,

1022
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 8: if you're ready to loosen arrow and a three year

1023
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 8: old walks by that you're excited about and you're gonna

1024
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 8: be happy with and you're gonna be proud of, give

1025
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 8: it to them.

1026
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so with knowing that

1027
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: temperature as gonna be a little bit elevated. So hones

1028
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: scale one to ten, where do you put the next

1029
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: seven days? The twelfth of the nineteenth and ten being

1030
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: the this is the best week ever, one being I'm

1031
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: not even gonna go.

1032
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 8: Where I am in Iowa historically. You know, we've hunted

1033
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 8: this farm for twenty five years.

1034
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 3: There is no better time.

1035
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 8: This is the time, you know, I would really kind

1036
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 8: of bracket it from November ninth to November fifteenth as

1037
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 8: like the best days where we're at in Iowa. But

1038
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 8: I would say the later that November progresses, call it

1039
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 8: like the fifteenth through the twenty second. What we've noticed

1040
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 8: is more mature bucks are on their feet.

1041
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be in that rut.

1042
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 8: Crazed phase of you know, one two three year old

1043
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 8: deer just running everywhere and chasing. But when you do

1044
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 8: see a buck, there's an elevated chance that it's gonna

1045
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 8: be a mature dear.

1046
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: So you know, those sits can get tough.

1047
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 8: You know, you're you're definitely entering the more likely of

1048
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 8: lockdown phase. I think you know from today November seventh

1049
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 8: all the way through that fifteenth is when you know

1050
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 8: a lot of the dos are gonna come into Estris,

1051
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 8: so you're gonna have.

1052
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: Some empty sits.

1053
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 8: You know, if you haven't ever been skunked deer hunting,

1054
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 8: you're either really blessed or you ain't.

1055
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: Been hunting enough. So you know, I would say stay

1056
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: out there. And one thing that I've.

1057
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 8: Really started to key in on in the last couple

1058
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 8: of years is water. You know, like I think water

1059
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 8: can be better than a dang bait pile. There's one

1060
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 8: thing that deer need to do every single day, and

1061
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 8: that is drink water.

1062
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 3: They can go a day.

1063
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 8: Without eating, they can go, you know, a day without

1064
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 8: doing whatever that a deer does, except water. So we

1065
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 8: have a couple strategic, you know, pieces of water on

1066
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 8: our property, and we also have a creep that runs

1067
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 8: through it. But I saw a really interesting post recently

1068
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 8: that resonated with me that deer don't prefer to drink

1069
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 8: from moving water for a couple of reasons. A there's

1070
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 8: there's noise to it, right, and when a deer is drinking,

1071
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 8: their head is down, their nose is in the water.

1072
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: They're completely reliant on their ears.

1073
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 8: And so I've noticed at the properties that I hunt

1074
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 8: that have running water, deer seem to prefer little still ponds,

1075
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 8: you know, twenty gallon buckets that are buried in the ground,

1076
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 8: and that's exactly what we have at this Iowa farm.

1077
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 8: We got three or four, you know, ten to twenty

1078
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 8: gallon buckets that we're definitely going to be filling up

1079
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 8: the first couple of days here, and I'm gonna be

1080
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 8: keying in on that water, especially in those warmer late mornings.

1081
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 8: You know, a buck before he goes back to bed,

1082
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 8: and the first thing he does when he gets up,

1083
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 8: he's probably gonna be looking for a drink. So with

1084
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 8: the warmer temperatures, I would key it on water. If

1085
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 8: you have moving water and that's all you got, go

1086
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 8: on it. If you got still water, go on it.

1087
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: I love it. Well. Jared, good luck here with an

1088
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Iowa tag already shot out Wisconsin buck. It's a pleasure.

1089
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: And keep keep checking in on the benchmarking the forecasting

1090
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: app because that's an unfor like everyone's like, well they

1091
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: have said this, so you guys are giving yeah, well, Jared,

1092
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much.

1093
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Jake, good luck everybody.

1094
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: There, you guys have I hope you guys enjoyed this

1095
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: week's episode of Retfresh. Good Luck over the next week.

1096
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: I know conditions aren't perfect. You're probably tired, you're probably

1097
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: questioning everything, you're questioning your preparation. But if there was

1098
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: one theme here for today, it's a stick to it,

1099
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: stick to it, hunt smart, and you're going to get

1100
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: the lucky balance, lucky break, or strategic break or a

1101
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: strategic bounce that is going to help you finish out

1102
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: this season or finish out this part of November before

1103
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: things start to wind out. You know, we're on the

1104
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: on the decline of the peak of the mountainous, Kevin said,

1105
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: so be sure to capitalize it, enjoy this time period,

1106
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: don't wish it away, and get out there and good luck.

1107
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 6: M