WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Wolf Devil Woman

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 3>today we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty two Taiwanese fantasy wusha film Wolf Devil Woman aka

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf and Queen aka Wolf and Ninja, which was distributed

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<v Speaker 3>by IFD, a company that apparently really enjoyed giving movies

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<v Speaker 3>an English title with the word ninja in them. Whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not the movie had anything to do with a

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<v Speaker 3>ninja usually, I think it didn't. A bit of just

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<v Speaker 3>slot ninja in there. So Wolf and Ninja, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that'll kind of work. But I'm gonna call it Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Devil Woman because I think that is it combines all

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<v Speaker 3>of the themes of the movie. You definitely have a woman,

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<v Speaker 3>she is kind of a woman, and there are major

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<v Speaker 3>themes of devils, even though the Wolf Woman is not

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<v Speaker 3>really a devil.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think this is the title to go with, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob, I don't know if you have another contender in

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<v Speaker 3>mind here, but I would say of all the films

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<v Speaker 3>we have ever covered on Weird House, I think Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Devil Woman is one of the most shrouded in mystery,

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<v Speaker 3>and by that I just mean that we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to turn up very little objective information in English about

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<v Speaker 3>the production history and the people who made this movie,

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<v Speaker 3>at least compared to most of the movies that we

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<v Speaker 3>watch on the show. But one thing that is for

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<v Speaker 3>certain is we know it is. Of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>movies are all the work of many people. There's never

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<v Speaker 3>just one creator. But this movie, I think is well

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<v Speaker 3>known as a product of a singular genius by the writer, director, producer,

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<v Speaker 3>and star Zang Ling, known in international releases as Pearl Chang.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Pearl Chang is the moniker that I believe IFD

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<v Speaker 2>gave her just to like, you know, to spice it

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<v Speaker 2>up in the same way that suddenly it's a ninja movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Call her Pearl Chang. It's just marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Zangling or Pearl Chang wrote and directed four movies

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<v Speaker 3>around the early eighties, and now I have only seen

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<v Speaker 3>one of them. I feel like I've got to see

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<v Speaker 3>the other three because she has such a weird, bizarre,

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<v Speaker 3>pleasing and distinct style. This is a movie that Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Devil Woman, I mean specifically, is a movie that has

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<v Speaker 3>had a reputation for many years as sort of one

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<v Speaker 3>of as like a low budget bad movie. People thought

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<v Speaker 3>of it as bad, and it was sort of circulated

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<v Speaker 3>on low quality VHS tapes and the kind of movie

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<v Speaker 3>people would put on for a laugh. And it certainly

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<v Speaker 3>does have elements that are very funny. But I also

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<v Speaker 3>think this movie really does have a genius and a

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<v Speaker 3>style of its own that should be appreciated. Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just ironically good. This is an exercise in imagination,

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<v Speaker 3>and I really love it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's rigally entertaining. It is intentionally comedic throughout.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just a situation of like, oh look

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<v Speaker 2>look what they attempted to do, isn't it funny? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're attempting and succeeding multiple times with comedy. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a great central performance by Pearl Chang, who is

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<v Speaker 2>at once funny, like broadly so, and yet never really

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<v Speaker 2>never in a way that feels mean. Also, she gets

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<v Speaker 2>she does get to be like the complete like stone

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<v Speaker 2>cold action woman who gets to kill multiple batties. She

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<v Speaker 2>gets to do that a lot, so she gets to

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<v Speaker 2>pull those levers as well. But it's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>captivating performance, like if nothing, you know, if nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>in the film caught your eye, like she is like

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<v Speaker 2>the shining star at the center of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So like by the end of the movie, the Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Woman that the main character played by Pearl Chang is

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<v Speaker 3>she's hardcore, Like she she's a stone cold warrior who

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<v Speaker 3>is coming in to like be the coolest and defeat

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<v Speaker 3>the enemy. But early on in the film there's all

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<v Speaker 3>not just early on in fact, just different scenes in

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<v Speaker 3>the film. It's also like she gets to do pratfalls

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<v Speaker 3>and does like slapstick sort of self deprecating klutz humor.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a scene where she accidentally eats too much chicken

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<v Speaker 3>and gets drunk and then beats up a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>people in a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. Yeah, you know, it's based on my observations

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<v Speaker 2>of the film and also going off some of the

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<v Speaker 2>extras that we were looking at from Justin to Clue

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<v Speaker 2>from over at Golden Ninja Video. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you have you have a filmmaker and performer here who

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<v Speaker 2>is who seems to be to varying degrees, like like

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<v Speaker 2>bucking the trends and the expectations of a female performer

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<v Speaker 2>of a female role of a female filmmaker in a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mostly male dominated world. So it's it's really

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<v Speaker 2>it's really inspiring to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>She really embraces the wolfinness of the wolf character. But

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<v Speaker 3>just in general, this movie is so it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>the main character. The movie is a wild beast howling

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<v Speaker 3>from the eighth dimension. It just has a lot going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and so much of it happens so fast and with

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<v Speaker 3>a little preparation for it. One thing that's been singled

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<v Speaker 3>out about the style of this movie is like the

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<v Speaker 3>fast editing and the action scenes, but also just often

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<v Speaker 3>quite sudden and rapid plot developments. It's it's all really

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<v Speaker 3>great stuff. It's absolutely nuts and it's awesome. One I

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<v Speaker 3>do want to issue one word of warning if you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go watch this movie, because there's a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>unusual thing in it. There were some rabbit hunting scenes

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<v Speaker 3>that occur on screen, and it is quite clear that

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<v Speaker 3>they are unsimulated, so large warning. If that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>bother you, you might want to, I don't know, have

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<v Speaker 3>the fast forward button ready or just skip this one

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<v Speaker 3>because there is unsimulated rabbit bow hunting on screen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, an unfortunate reality of some of these older pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's something like this that you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it. Other times was often the case with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of horsemanship on camera. There is some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately some animal cruelty going on there that may be

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<v Speaker 2>lost to the average viewer because we just don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>recognize what goes in to performing stunts with horses, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, not to forgive it. It's there and if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to avoid it by all means, avoid it

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<v Speaker 2>now it's worth pointing out. This is our third Taiwanese film.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe we previously discussed Thrilling Bloody Sword and Child

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<v Speaker 2>of Peach. Both of those are very weird movies. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say Thrilling Bloody Sword is more unrelenting psychedelic wusha

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<v Speaker 2>and Child of Peach is more intentionally goofy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting to try and sort of place where Wolf Devil

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<v Speaker 2>Woman is between those two, because it's not nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>psychedelics is Throwing Bloody Sword, but it has its moments,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the other hand, it does have plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>broad comedic moments as well, but certainly not to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the fantastic extremes of Child of Peach.

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<v Speaker 3>The commentary track on the release of this movie that

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<v Speaker 3>we watched the Golden Ninja release has some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>general thoughts on it about differences you often see between

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<v Speaker 3>Taiwanese woosh of films and those produced in the Hong

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<v Speaker 3>Kong film industry, and some of the things that this

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<v Speaker 3>is by justin the clue of Golden Ninja video, and

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<v Speaker 3>he says several things are like, first of all, Taiwanese

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<v Speaker 3>movies of this sort tended to be lower budgets, they

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<v Speaker 3>would be made faster and cheaper than Hong Kong films,

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<v Speaker 3>but also they tended to kind of make up for

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<v Speaker 3>that by being wackier and more imaginative and having more

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<v Speaker 3>unusual fantasy elements, often more gore. You definitely see that

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<v Speaker 3>here in addition to what we already mentioned. There are

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<v Speaker 3>some unrealistic looking but quite interesting gore effects and just

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<v Speaker 3>more of a kind of wide ranging, fast moving, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fast and loose feel to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember one thing that he mentioned in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the exers for Thrilling Bloody Sword is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the underdog status of Taiwanese cinema of

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<v Speaker 2>the time period where yeah, they really felt like they

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<v Speaker 2>had to do all these things. You know, Hong Kong

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<v Speaker 2>cinema had the advantage, but we Taiwanese cinema could be

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<v Speaker 2>even more daring, daring and stunts, daring and plot elements,

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<v Speaker 2>the magic, the wackiness, what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>I do really love a lot of the stunts in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, and it is stuff that you will have

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<v Speaker 3>you will have seen in other movies of this type,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there is the Wusha Star often has a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of flying typeability or a weightlessness that they were able

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<v Speaker 3>to manifest, so they can leap up thirty feet in

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<v Speaker 3>the air or sort of zoom across the zoom across

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<v Speaker 3>the room without their feet touching the floor. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>similar kinds of stunts to you would what you would

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<v Speaker 3>find in other movies of this type. But I like

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<v Speaker 3>the way they appear on screen here. Often, like when

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<v Speaker 3>the wolf Devil woman leaps up in the air, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, up into the treetops, it will be filmed

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<v Speaker 3>in a kind of slow motion that gives her this

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<v Speaker 3>this magical weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, it has some of these these great woucha

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<v Speaker 2>moments with the floating, the flying, the like strange physical

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<v Speaker 2>interactions occurring by two flying characters nit air that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, Yeah yeah, and then some just straight up

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<v Speaker 2>moratal kombat fatalities.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. There's there's a lot of sorcery too. So,

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<v Speaker 3>like the bad guys in the movie have a habit

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<v Speaker 3>of walking up to people and just blasting these huge,

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<v Speaker 3>billowing gusts of fog out of their sleeves that somehow

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<v Speaker 3>like either burn people or freeze them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the Lady Demon Minion who covers people with spiders

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<v Speaker 2>and web yes, the Witch. Yeah, so there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>magic to go around. It's what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, should we do the elevator pitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have it.

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<v Speaker 3>A young woman is raised by wolves after her parents

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<v Speaker 3>are murdered by the minions of a sparkly devil. The

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<v Speaker 3>wolves happen to feed this young girl a plant root

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<v Speaker 3>that is a sort of one of a kind plant root,

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<v Speaker 3>a once in a thousand years root that gives her

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<v Speaker 3>amazing powers of weightless leaping and martial arts. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when a pair of heroic adventurers meet the wolf woman,

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<v Speaker 3>they teach her to speak human language and live like

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<v Speaker 3>a human at least sort of and they inadvertently open

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<v Speaker 3>her mind to a bloody path of revenge against the demon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Joe, what's your what's your tagline for this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you gonna call white gensing? Okay, gen sing root?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, white gensing has a major role in this picture,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that, as far as I can understand,

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<v Speaker 2>like white gensing is just a variety of gensying that

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<v Speaker 2>you encounter and you can buy it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if this was ultimately something where the actual term

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<v Speaker 2>used in the Mandarin it's referring to some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>mythical substance, because there are plenty of things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that we've discussed in the Unstuffed to Blow

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<v Speaker 2>of your Mind before. You know, some sort of mythical

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<v Speaker 2>substance that grows on a sacred mountain and has to

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<v Speaker 2>be harvested. So maybe it was something like that somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, linked to the source material, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>been replaced in dubs and subtitles as white genzing.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm. Yeah, I didn't know what to make of that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Normally we would we would hit you with

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<v Speaker 2>some trailer audio right now, but as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 2>there is not a theatrical trailer available for this film,

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<v Speaker 2>either for its original market or uh, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>international markets. So instead, I thought we just might have

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<v Speaker 2>just a quick audio sample of some of the audio

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<v Speaker 2>nuttiness of this film, because there are multiple times while

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching it where I was just like man,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you weren't watching this film, if you're just

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<v Speaker 2>listening to it, it's just absolutely bonkers.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we can get some of the English dub of

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<v Speaker 3>the demon talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, yes he is, he is fabulous. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's have.

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<v Speaker 4>It such a great here, it's become my Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>understand you came here to kill me, but it looks

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<v Speaker 4>and things have change.

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<v Speaker 2>All right now, if you want to watch Wolf Devil Woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we proceed, first of all, bear in mind it

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<v Speaker 2>has all these different titles. If you're searching for it,

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<v Speaker 2>you might need a search for Wolf and Ninja. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>find Queen Wolf and Queen and so forth. You of course,

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<v Speaker 2>also you can always you know, get the original like

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<v Speaker 2>man title and you know, in the Mandarin characters and

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<v Speaker 2>throw that into search and you might be able to

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<v Speaker 2>find it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we should make clear that if you're

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<v Speaker 3>like looking for versions of this on disc or on

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<v Speaker 3>the internet, and you can't find one where the picture

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<v Speaker 3>is good. Yeah, that's just sort of what you're stuck

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<v Speaker 3>with apparently there as far as I'm aware, there is

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<v Speaker 3>really no good looking version of this movie out there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hopefully that'll change, because I believe that changed

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<v Speaker 2>with Thrilling Bloody Sword. We had the version that came

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<v Speaker 2>out that gold Ninja Video put out, and if memory

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<v Speaker 2>serves correctly, some better source material for it, something that

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<v Speaker 2>can maybe be remastered, has surfaced and we can look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to another even more magical release of Thrilling Bloody Swords. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as films like this become popular, you never

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're going to turn up. We have We've

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<v Speaker 2>discussed cases of this before, such as Santo in the

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<v Speaker 2>Treasure of Dracula, where they thought that, you know, any

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<v Speaker 2>any color print of the movie was just lost, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they found it in a vault.

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<v Speaker 3>I would really love to discover that in this case

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<v Speaker 3>because so, yeah, we both watched it on the disc

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<v Speaker 3>release by Golden Ninja Video, and that disc has two

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<v Speaker 3>different versions of the film, both of which have problems.

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<v Speaker 3>One is one in the original aspect ratio, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like a widescreen version of the movie that the picture

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<v Speaker 3>is really pretty poor, like the colors are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>messed up, and it's not very sharp, and it has

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<v Speaker 3>hard baked in Greek subtitles, which I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that's your thing, but I guess they kind of pile

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<v Speaker 3>up if you're also watching it with English subtitles or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever subtitles on top of that. But maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good one to watch with a dub. Though in general,

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<v Speaker 3>I can recommend the English dub on this movie, which

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<v Speaker 3>is quite fun, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's key. Like one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>about dubs is you want a dub that is at

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<v Speaker 2>least mostly accurate, and you want the dub to more

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<v Speaker 2>or less match the intended tone of the film, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a serious film or it has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a serious tone, you don't want you don't want the

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<v Speaker 2>dub to be making fun of the picture. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want the dub to be completely off kilter. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the dub is wacky and fun in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that the movie is wacky and fun, and at

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<v Speaker 2>least to my ear, it never came off as disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, that is the wide screen version on the disc.

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<v Speaker 3>There was also a full screen version, where from what

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell, the picture is sharper, so it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit better looking, but it's badly cropped, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>missing a lot of the original film.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the version I watched. I looked at the other one,

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<v Speaker 2>the wide screen, and I just felt like the picture

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<v Speaker 2>quality was overall two degraded for me to get into

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<v Speaker 2>it as much, so I decided to go with the

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<v Speaker 2>other though I will say it did probably make some

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<v Speaker 2>of the action sequences, especially those in the last quarter

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<v Speaker 2>of the picture, a little more confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I think those are somewhat confusing no matter what

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<v Speaker 3>crop you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing, right, So yeah, that Golden Ninja video

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<v Speaker 2>release was titled Wolf Devil Director the Films of Pearl Chang.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a two disc thing. It's currently out of print,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, you can go to gold Ninja Video dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You sign up for their newsletter, maybe hassle them a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Who knows, they might put it out again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they've re released things in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I would get a copy if they put it out again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, we should say that that release

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<v Speaker 3>not only has Wolf Devil Woman that one is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the main main event, but it also has some

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<v Speaker 3>of Zangling or Pearl Chang's other films in uh. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it In fact, I wonder does it have all

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<v Speaker 3>three of the ones that she wrote and directed. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe it does have matching escort, and I think it

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<v Speaker 3>does have the one about the Flower.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I don't have It's in the

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<v Speaker 2>other room, so I can't pick it up and look

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<v Speaker 2>at it right now, Okay, but it's definitely worth picking

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<v Speaker 2>up if you're interested in these films. Again, we rented

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<v Speaker 2>it from Video Drum here in Atlanta, as we often do.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are local to Atlanta or visiting Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>with your Blu Ray Player, you can go over to

0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Video Drome and rent it for yourself and just a

0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 2>quick shout out here. Video Drome, in cooperation with a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of other parties, are trying to put together wings Fest,

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<v Speaker 2>a film festival devoted to the magical work of Wingshauser.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about wings Hauser on the show before because

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<v Speaker 2>he was the villain in Beast Master two. Well, they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to they're trying to bring him in for as

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<v Speaker 2>a special guest for wings Fest. So if that, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're interested in that at all, if you're in town

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<v Speaker 2>or going to be in town for it, go to

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<v Speaker 2>Video Drum's Instagram account. They are video Drome underscore at

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<v Speaker 2>l and you can find out more. It's currently in

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<v Speaker 2>the kickstarter phase, so yeah, jump in and help fund

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<v Speaker 2>it if that interest you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, would you like to talk about the connections

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<v Speaker 3>in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna get into it as much as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is definitely a film with the least amount

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<v Speaker 2>of information on the available databases, so we're talking you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the movie database IMDb, also the Hong Kong Movie Database,

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<v Speaker 2>which often provides additional insight into films from Hong Kong,

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<v Speaker 2>Taiwanese and mainland Chinese cinema. But in this case, really

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<v Speaker 2>not so much. Like we said, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the more mysterious films that we've looked at. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna walk you through what we know. So starting at

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<v Speaker 2>the top, Yeah, it's Pearl Chang Ling or Pearl Chang

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth, the director, the the writer, the producer,

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<v Speaker 2>the star and also she did the theme song vocals.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, Yeah, she sang the theme song to some

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<v Speaker 3>other pros that she was involved in before she was

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<v Speaker 3>directing her own films as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she I mean, she is just a tour de

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<v Speaker 2>force here. So she was born in nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Hong Kong Movie Database, she was active

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<v Speaker 2>from seventy two through eighty three, acting in twenty four films,

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<v Speaker 2>writing for directing three. And I want to just add

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<v Speaker 2>an asterisk there because I know that there are some

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<v Speaker 2>films that it's thought that she did direct, but another

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<v Speaker 2>director that may be just a pseudonym is attributed. And

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<v Speaker 2>again we don't have a lot of information to go

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<v Speaker 2>on in the databases here.

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<v Speaker 3>From what I was reading and what was in the

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<v Speaker 3>documentary on the disc, it seems that it is acknowledged

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<v Speaker 3>that she directed four films and one of them has

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<v Speaker 3>a director's credit that is a pseudonym for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, the three that are definitely her there's A

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<v Speaker 2>Romantic Night in eighty one, matching Escort in eighty two

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<v Speaker 2>and Wolf Devil Woman in eighty two as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>this picture would seem to appe pretty late in her

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<v Speaker 2>film career, followed only by a trio of nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>three films in which she acted the three famous constables,

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<v Speaker 2>General Invincible, which she also wrote, and is that the

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<v Speaker 2>one that she also may have.

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<v Speaker 3>Directed, possibly, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Fantasy Mission Force.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't direct that one. That is a movie that

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<v Speaker 3>she started in along with Jackie Chan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, yes, Now. IMDb also lists her as an

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<v Speaker 2>uncredited actor in nineteen ninety one's Thunder Ninja Kids The

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt for the Devil Boxer, but this is not reflected

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<v Speaker 2>on Hong Kong Movie Database, and I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was mentioned on the extras for the gold Ninja release,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm tempted to dismiss this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but once again, in the case of Wolf Devil Woman,

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<v Speaker 3>we know that she wrote it, produced it, directed it,

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<v Speaker 3>and starred in it in multiple roles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I believe she plays her own mother, as

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<v Speaker 2>we'll discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rob, I don't know if you've got a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to watch it, but is a short documentary I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's about ten minutes long on the Golden Ninja release

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<v Speaker 3>that focuses on the life and work of Zang Ling

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<v Speaker 3>or Pearl Chang what we were able to know about her.

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<v Speaker 3>I did watch this, Oh, okay's quite good. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is good. So some of the things that they

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<v Speaker 3>talk about in there is that she starred in over

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<v Speaker 3>twenty movies. According to their research, she wrote and directed

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<v Speaker 3>four feature films, not three. That there really is. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's not just a lack of available materials in English.

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<v Speaker 3>This made it sound more like that there really just

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<v Speaker 3>is not a whole lot that is publicly known about her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like she was She's thought to have

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately been kind of a private person anyway, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that certainly factors into the lack of information here.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, the name Pearl Chang is the name is

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<v Speaker 3>like her work name that appeared on international releases distributed

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<v Speaker 3>by IFD. IFD once again they like specialize in releasing

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<v Speaker 3>movies with the word ninja in the English title. So ye,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of mingo. Look them up. Ninja Terminator,

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<v Speaker 3>the Ninja Squad, Ninja Silent Assassin, Diamond Ninja Force.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to be confused with Lady Terminator. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>here that you would release it as Ninja Terminator. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and dip it into both buckets, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wonder how much it has to do with

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<v Speaker 3>Ninja's or Terminators. I don't think I've seen that one,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah. Anyway, So we learn in this documentary that

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Pearl Chang was trained as a singer but also in ballet,

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 3>taekwon do and in journalism. So she acted in some

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<v Speaker 3>films that seem now to be lost, but her big

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<v Speaker 3>break was around nineteen seventy four or seventy five when

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<v Speaker 3>she starred in a TV show called The Protectors, which

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<v Speaker 3>was apparently hugely popular in Taiwan. So this was a

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<v Speaker 3>show about, you know, sort of fantasy heroes, Marshall heroes,

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 3>people doing martial arts and sword play. It was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a swashbuckler, and Pearl Chang sang the theme song

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<v Speaker 3>to the show. She also played a wandering swordswoman who

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<v Speaker 3>apparently became a breakout character. And then after being in

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<v Speaker 3>this show, she would appear in a movie where the

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<v Speaker 3>title translates to Armed Escort or China Armed Escort, which

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<v Speaker 3>was it seems an unofficial movie adaptation of this TV

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 3>show The Protectors, which had been her big hit. And

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<v Speaker 3>then after this she would go on to write and

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<v Speaker 3>direct her own features, which are generally Woosha revenge stories.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them is called Miraculous Flower, released in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one. I think basically all of these had multiple

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<v Speaker 3>different English titles, so there can be some confusion there,

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<v Speaker 3>but one is referred to in the documentary as Miraculous Flower.

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<v Speaker 3>This is sort of considered notable because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the films of this type produced around this time would

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<v Speaker 3>be shot mostly on indoor stage sets. But apparently Miraculous

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Flower had a lot of outdoor filming locations and it

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 3>was quite lovely looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. This extra included one clip from some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a waterfall that looked a lot like the waterfall from

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<v Speaker 2>Child Peach. I'm not certain, but I mean, obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>more than one waterfall in Taiwan. But at any rate,

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<v Speaker 2>very very interesting use of outdoor filming locations for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to these indoor sets, which I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a great over the top Taiwanese Wu shaw set,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can get those in this picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we get a great temple set for they kick

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<v Speaker 3>off the movie with a rollicking crucifixion at an indoor

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<v Speaker 3>temple set, let's see. According to this documentary, this seems

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<v Speaker 3>less well founded, but just sort of general rumors about

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Zengling's reputation. She was considered something of a loaner and

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<v Speaker 3>was characterized by some as maybe difficult to work with,

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<v Speaker 3>or as a perfectionist and difficult to work with, but

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<v Speaker 3>Declu argues in this documentary that it's quite possible that

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<v Speaker 3>having a reputation for being difficult to work with was

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<v Speaker 3>just like men in a male dominated industry reacting with

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<v Speaker 3>alarm to a woman who is insisting on doing things

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<v Speaker 3>her way. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We've touched on the whole difficult to work with a

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<v Speaker 2>label before on the show, which can mean a lot

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of things. You can see it applied to people like

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 2>say Kloskinski, who I think was legitimately difficult, if not

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>impossible to work with.

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>That was a hymn thing, not an other people thing.

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but other times who can say, you know, it

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>could be just the slightest thing possible that just goes

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to the echo chamber and then it becomes difficult to

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 2>work with, you know.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I can certainly imagine in any national context, really

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 3>that a woman making films might well just like be

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 3>have a creative vision of her own and she's like,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>this is the way we need to do it, and

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe some guys around her are just freaked out by that.

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, in nineteen eighty three, I think this is

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 3>one of her final credits. She acted alongside Jackie Chan

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 3>but also Jimmy Wang Yu and Brigent Lynn in Fantasy

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Mission Force, which was a Hong Kong a sort of

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 3>martial arts fantasy horror movie. And then she also released

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 3>her final film, General Invincible in nineteen eighty three, after

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 3>which she apparently just disappeared from public view. So there

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 3>is not really, as far as I could tell, anything

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>known about what she did after that.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there's been no death date for her,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 2>so one presumes that she's still alive, but doesn't seem

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>to have been a public persona in any way after

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>this last film, which is fine. We've talked about this before,

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>like Warhawk Tanzania made basically just a very small handful

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of pictures and then disappeared. I'mbly still alive, but maybe

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.479
<v Speaker 2>just didn't want to be part of the limelight after that,

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And if so, more power to him and more power

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>to Pearl Chang if that is the case here.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Yes, retiring from a public facing profession and just living

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 3>your life. I give that my full blessing. It's a

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 3>choice I support.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't know about you, Joe, but you know

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it's you can't help but compare a performer, especially you know,

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a real larger than a live performer, to try and

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>find some comparison to them, either like in current or

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 2>recent or like a different nationality of cinema. And the

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>main person that I kept thinking of watching Pearl Chang

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>on screen is Amy Sedaris. I'm a big Amy Sedaris fan.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>And there's just something, especially in the comedic scenes, the

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 2>way that Amy Sedaris really commits to these you know,

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>weird and wacky moments. I felt like she had a

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>similar energy here Pearl Chang did.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, maybe like hopping around and falling on your

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>face with the rabbit blood all over your chin. Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 2>There are multiple parts in the film where I was

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like this, Amy Sedaris would have totally done this.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, the restaurant chicken disaster scene.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, So stuff like that, And I don't know, Also,

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm you know, I can't help but compare, and

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, think about Amy Sedaris as someone who also

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>has like a very seems to have a very singular

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 2>vision and you know, a big personality, but also is

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think Amy Sides is a loner

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 2>by any means, but she also I've seen things where

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 2>she talks about, like, you know, enjoying crafting by herself

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and her apartment and that sort of thing, So you know,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I can kind of line them up in my own

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>imagination on that level as well.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I no offense to Amy Sidaris at all. I

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>can see her less in some of the other aspects

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>of this role that Pearl Chang does so wonderfully, like

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>the when she actually becomes the like the cold, the

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>cold steel warrior at the end.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree, when she gets into the like the

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>stone cold killer mode. Yeah, it's a different act altogether,

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 2>all right. Now, one of the challenges that and a

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>challenge we're not really going to be able to overcome here,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 2>is that on all of the databases we had access to,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>none of the actors are matched up with a character name.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>And on top of that, the character name's very depending

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>if you're doing the dub or you're doing the subtitles,

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>so it gets very confusing and difficult to chart exactly

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>who everyone is supposed to be. Luckily, Pearl Chang's character

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>in this snowflower or wolf woman or wolf and queen,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the various monikers that are attributed to her. She's the

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>main character. She's see really the only one. You have

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>to be super invested in and know what her name is. Yeah,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>but as far as we can tell, I believe Sifing

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>is the actor who plays Master Lee. Master Lee being

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the sort of he's sort of in the mold of

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the traditional male hero in the picture.

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>He's the wandering prince with the powerful sword. Yeah.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>So not a lot about this particular actor either. He

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>was born in nineteen forty two. This may be his

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>most well known film internationally, but he was also in

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy six's Adventure of Shaolin, seventy eight's The Zodiac Fighters,

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty two's The Hell and just basically a character.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who played these characters. But he has

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 2>a sidekick named Wong but also possibly Rudy I think,

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>but will probably refer to him as Wong. And then

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>he has a master, like a Shaolin master that he

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>studied under, by the name of Master Chew.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, all right.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And then Master Lee's father I'm not sure if we

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>know his name, but he has a father that he

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>meets with and is sent on missions by This character

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>is played by Se Wang, who lived nineteen thirty through

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, an actor who appeared in two films we've

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 2>talked about on the show before. Nineteen seventy five is

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>The Super Inframan, in which he plays a professor at

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>one point, and also nineteen seventy six is The Oily Maniac.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>This was a Shaw Brothers melt monster movie. He has

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a I think it's a small part that he plays

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a lawyer in that man.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Those are like the two ends of the spectrum, like

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 3>the like with Inframan, you've got the most beautiful, holy,

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>pure imagination ever and then with The Oily Maniac, just

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the seediest thing we've ever watched.

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, And to be clear, we do avoid most

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>CED films, but this one has some CD elements that

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of like slipped in early on in weird house

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>cinema that we have we generally avoid later on. But

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>still very cool monster and I'm guessing a great performance

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>by Weighing here as a lawyer. His other film credits

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>include nineteen eighty six Is a Better Tomorrow directed by

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>John Wu and starring Chawion Fat and the Leslie Chung.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>He has one hundred and ninety credits on Hong Kong

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Movie Database, so it seems like he was kind of

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like a workhorse performer that they brought in for this one.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>That's my interpretation anyway. And then as far as the

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>music goes, the credited composer is Huang Mao Sean born

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty, Taiwanese film composer whose credits include eighty two's

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 2>The Green Green Grass of Home and also nineteen eighty

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>one's The Devil. I will say the music and overall

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>soundscape in this movie tends to rapidly move in and

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>out of just electronic madness with demon growls, demon laughter,

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>and howling wolves to like sort of traditional East Asian themes.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 3>There was one review I read where I couldn't confirm

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 3>whether this was true or not, but it alleged that

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>this movie also used some music from Dawn of the Dead.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>That would be believable. Yeah, there are a lot of

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>these pictures that seem to play a little fast and

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>loose with their soundtrack. I mean you find that in

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 2>others as well. I was watching Ramsey Brothers Indian horror movie,

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>just like last week, and there at one point where

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>they just go straight into Friday the thirteenth music purchase,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>even with the sound effect, all of it just blatant

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>legend ground here. Yeah, just blatantly ripped from Friday the thirteenth.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know that sort of thing occurs.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's good, but I'd be really impressed if it

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 3>just started featuring the Darkest Side of Night from Jason

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Takes Manhattan.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that was the rock number.

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Fallen Angels into the Street.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing is obvious as all that here though.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, you ready to talk about the plot.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, let's talk about this plot.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Rob, I've pulled in some screenshots from the first

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 3>couple of minutes of the movie that you can peruse

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 3>while I'm trying to describe what happens here, because it's

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot to take in really fast.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the first three minutes of this movie are incredibly

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>weird and captivating. So if you're just on the fence,

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>go check out the first three minutes on tuby or

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 2>wherever you find a rip of it. I think you'll

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>be convinced.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the film begins with lightning ripping across the

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 3>sky that is covered in smoke. We see a dead

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 3>tree with barren limbs burning in the night. Then we

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 3>see a golden idol in the crude shape of a

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 3>man photographed in a room with violet walls. Then some

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 3>kind of throne room or temple with like an elevated

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 3>area above, you know, in the center of the room,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 3>big old platform in the center. Hooded figures in black

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 3>and white carry candles across the floor and gather in

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 3>advance of an ominous ceremony. Then we get our title screen.

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 3>In this version it says wolf and ninja. So the

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>hooded figures begin to approach the altar, the head of

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 3>the temple, and they are carrying with them a man.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 3>The man is prone and tied to a beam. But wait,

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 3>it's not just a beam. It is a cross. It

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>is a man tied to a blocky red crucifix, and

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 3>the man on the cross is hoisted up above the

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 3>gathered congregation of evil. He's tied to the cross, and

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 3>then a horrible figure takes center stage. It is someone

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 3>in dark clothing wearing a red and gold cape and

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 3>a glittering silver conical hat with a veil that falls

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 3>over the face and hangs down in front and back,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 3>and on the front of the conical part of the

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 3>hat there is a hot pink skull and crossbones. So

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 3>it is essentially a pirate glam rock capirote or like

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 3>a penitent's hood.

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the Red Devil, which we'll find out later.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>And he's just fabulous, just dressed to the nines here

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and seem conceived in a way to where it does

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>seem like multiple influences are coming together, Like this is

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>not sort of your stereotypical like Hong Kong action picture

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Wu Shaw villain. Like there are elements like you said

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>of like you know, Spanish Spanish inquisition perhaps and penitents

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and also I guess pirates and also like disco warriors.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the pink skull and crossbones. Yeah, but the sparkles,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 3>it's like glittering.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So already just like three minutes into the picture,

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>we have this character. We have a black magic crucifixion.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot going on.

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 3>So we got several observers looking on in fear, others

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 3>looking on with excitement. Some of the people in the

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>room here are like vampires and Orcs. There's one guy

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>that's just I don't know is the like, is the

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 3>green orc mask supposed to be a vampire. I don't

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 3>know exactly what this guy's deal is.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're kind of spirit Halloween mask masks going on

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>that are not convincing as actual fleshy faces. They look

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 2>like Halloween masks. But I wouldn't change them for anything. No, No,

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>they they ultimately work within the context of this film,

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>but they are, I guess, if you want to get critical,

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 2>some of the weakest choices in the picture.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the glam rock demon priest who he also

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 3>has I didn't even get to this part yet. He's

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 3>got knives for fingers, but they're not like Freddy Krueger knives,

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>which are oriented what you might say, perpendicular to like

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>the knuckles on the on the fingers. These are like

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of knife shovels that extend about a foot out

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 3>from the tips of the fingers, like fingernails, essentially along

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 3>the contours of what a fingernail would be, but more

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 3>curved inward and sharper.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the dub for this character's voice is terrific.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just just the right level of cheesy over the

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>top villain. That works perfectly with such a cheesy over

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the top villain, so again that the dub matches the

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 2>context of a picture perfectly.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Here. Yes, so the demon priest picks up a doll

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 3>or an idol and then pierces its heart with a stick.

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 3>And then this, by the principle commonly associated in movies

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>with a voodoo doll, causes an equivalent wound to explode

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 3>on the chest of the man tied to the cross.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 3>So the wound is the wound here is actually rendered

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 3>with cell animation, which I love. And so like a

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>hole that looks almost like a gap blasted in rock

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 3>with cracks all around, it opens up over the man's

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>heart and red blood pours out. And again this is

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 3>on a on a film like film like still film

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 3>of the guy, and it's animated on top of that.

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's I love it. It's just it's like

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>they could have done more of just like a traditional

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>blood effect, and that would have been that would have

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.240
<v Speaker 2>been great. Years later, this would have probably been cgi blood,

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>but instead we have this. We're between those two and

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 2>it ultimately looks really cool.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's some really great cell animation that comes in

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 3>later too, Like in the very last scene there's some

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 3>cell animated fire that is beautiful. Also, I should say,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 3>throughout the scene, the demon or the demon priest, he

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 3>keeps making a grunting sound which then echoes back a lot.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 3>So imagine it's this voice that goes like yo, but

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 3>then it echoes thirty times.

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is a lot of that. Like I said,

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the soundscape for this picture is pretty Bonker's just on

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>its own.

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Then the demon priest takes the doll and turns it

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 3>upside down and dunks it headfirst into this big old

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>vat of frothy red goo, and this causes some kind

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 3>of pain and suffering for the man on the cross.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And then in the background of the room there is

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 3>a couple holding a baby wrapped in yellow swaddling, and

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, this is not the kind of event

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>you bring a baby to.

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think they're having the same realization. They're like, honey,

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's time we fled the cult. I think

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the devil Colt has gotten a little too heavy for us,

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and we need to think about raising this child somewhere else.

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, they're observing this ritual torture in horror, and yeah,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what they're doing here, but they obviously

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 3>don't like it. And then we see the man on

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 3>the cross. He spits blood and dies. The doll falls

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to the floor and shatters, and then suddenly we just

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.919
<v Speaker 3>smash cut to the mother and the father we saw

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 3>in the room. They're now outside on a snow covered

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>mountain side, surrounded by evergreen trees, fleeing for their lives

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>with their baby in their arms. The man and the

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 3>woman are frightened and exhausted, and we see them both

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 3>carrying swords, so I guess this is like a married

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 3>pair of warriors. And while running through the snow, the

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 3>man and woman are attacked by fighters rest in red,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 3>wielding swords and pole arms. And then the leader of

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>the demon fighters appears, and he is one of the

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>guys we saw at the ceremony, the guy in the

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 3>goofiest of all the masks. It's like the vampire orc mask.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the other mask looked cooler, So I do wonder

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 2>why they take this one to do these things with.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 3>It's good, so he said, the demon leader. He goes

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to the he's talking to the parents and he says, traitor,

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 3>you will be punished for your treachery, and the mother

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 3>says to him, we'd rather die than go back to

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 3>your hell and serve under you. So did they come

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 3>from Hell? Possibly? Well maybe al And then the parents

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>they the parents are brave fighters, so they finned off

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>the demon hnchmen. Initially they sort of duel with them

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>while they try to escape up the mountain. I think

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 3>we do learn that the mother's name is Jade. And

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 3>then when the parents are eventually cornered by the fighters

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 3>from Hell, they decide to.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Things.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I was about to say things start getting weird, but

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 3>they've been weird. Here's another weird thing. They decide to

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice themselves to protect their baby. And the way they

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>decide to do this is they stab each other with

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 3>swords and then rapidly slam their heads into the ground

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 3>until the headbutting of the mountain causes an avalanche, and

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 3>the avalanche comes down and covers everything with snow. And

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>then they bleed on their child and they say the

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 3>blood will keep the baby warm and protect her from

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 3>the snow.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So many, so many issues of this plan. Uh yeah,

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and I have to say too, in that crazy moment

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>when this first happens, it's not entirely clear that they

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>are stabbing themselves. It look I thought they were stabbing

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the baby and running the baby. Yeah, Like I was like,

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this movie got so strange and weird

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and dark all of a sudden I had It wasn't

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>until the second time I was going through it with

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the dub and the subtitle of them like, Okay, they're

0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>clearly stabbing themselves, And then I understood this ridiculous plots

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>of theirs to bleed all over their baby so that

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 2>their warm blood will keep the baby warm, as if

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>blood is has self sustaining warmth for us. Yeah, but

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, within a mythic context, fine.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 3>I criticize this plan as not realistic.

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I probably supposed to be more symbolic than realistic, I recognize.

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the avalanche comes down and buries them, but

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the Devil warriors are not satisfied. They go digging in

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 3>the snow to find the three of them, and they

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>eventually do find the two parents, but before they can

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 3>collect the child from underneath the avalanche, they are driven

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 3>away by wolves. Wolves come out howling and chase away

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the demon fighters, but actually are these wolves?

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 4>Know?

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 3>They're they're sweet doggies. They're they look like good boys.

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 2>They're just straight up German shepherds without anything ad like

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 2>they're not wearing anything weird, like they didn't put extra

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 2>fur or anything.

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh, but so I love these dogs. The dogs

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 3>run up and they start eating the parents' bodies.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they distress the bodies to pieces and big

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>bloody splashes in the white snow.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they're like ripping arms off and stuff. But

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 3>then when a quote wolf finds the baby, the wolf

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 3>does not harm the baby and instead brings her back

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 3>to the wolf den, which is like a cave of ice,

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 3>a frosty cave where the wolves make their home, and

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 3>we see the wolf carrying the baby along the way,

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 3>which is, by the way, clearly just like a weightless

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.720
<v Speaker 3>yellow bundle of cloth. But then back at the cave,

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>the wolf mother takes care of the baby and crouches

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 3>over her to protect her, and then we see time

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 3>is passing.

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>This includes multiple shots though, of the baby crying quite

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 2>audibly while the wolf like growls at the baby and

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the baby's covered with blood, and this feels like it

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>goes on for about five minutes.

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but the wolf is it is weird, but the

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 3>wolf is protecting the baby. Yes. So years into the

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>future we see that the child is growing up now

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 3>that I don't know how old she's supposed to be

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 3>in the scene, but she's older now. She can walk

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 3>around and stuff. She's living with the wolves, and she

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 3>is dressed in furs and pelts and just like tearing

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 3>into a big, old, bloody hunk of raw meat, just

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 3>like eating the raw meat, getting blood everywhere. And we

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>see her practicing hunting. She tries to hunt a rabbit

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 3>like her wolf family here does, but she fails and

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 3>she ends up tumbling down a hill and getting injured

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 3>and then lying back in the cave covered in blood

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 3>from her injuries while trying to hunt. The wolf girl

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>is nursed back to health by her wolf mother, and

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 3>in fact, the wolf mother brings her some kind of medicine.

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 3>The wolf I guess has medical knowledge and brings her

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 3>strange plant matter found from outside. What could this be?

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I believe this is going to be the special ginseng

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 3>root that we learn about later.

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they're all a part of the wolf devil

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>woman diet. If you may be adherence to the Wolf

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Devil Woman diet. It's just raw meat and white genzy.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 2>But you can eat as much white gen sing as

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you want.

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh but when you follow the Wolf Devil Woman diet,

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 3>your your hair turns white and then turns black again.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 3>But then at intermittent periods for the rest of your life,

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 3>we'll just turn white at certain times.

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>There are side effects.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, time okay, So time passes once again, and when

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 3>we once again meet the Wolf Girl, she has become

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 3>the Wolf Devil Woman. So now we see Pearl Chang

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Zengling is out hunting. She's like better at hunting now,

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 3>except so we see her hunting rabbits and she's she's

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 3>dressed in the garb of the wilderness, so it's all furs,

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 3>but also a wolf's head cap. And I was just thinking,

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 3>so is this it looks it's almost like it's supposed

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 3>to be a camouflage for her hunting rabbits, so she's

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.800
<v Speaker 3>like camouflaged as the rabbit's natural predator.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>This is the reveal of this CopM and of the

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 2>adult Wolf Devil Woman is just this is one of

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 2>those moments where you watch in the film and it's

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like you feel like you're going crazy for a moment

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 2>because it's like a snowbank. And then here is this

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>what looks like a like a stuffed wolf or a

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>stuffed fox or a stuffed German shepherd head peeking over

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 2>like muppeting up at you, and you're thinking like what

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 2>is this? Is this a puppet effect? And then you're like, no,

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 2>this head is on top of Pearl Chang's head. This

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>is a hat or a costume. She is wearing some

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of a head dress. And then she commences to

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>hunt rabbits.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot. And so now grown up and

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:42.439
<v Speaker 3>having learned the ways of the wolves and also benefited

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 3>from the potency of the white Gensen root, we see

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>that the Wolf Woman has extraordinary powers, so she can

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 3>make herself weightless in classic Wusha Wireworks style, so she

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 3>dump jumps dozens of feet into the air glides like

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:02.760
<v Speaker 3>a spirit on the wind. But I think it's funny

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's cool that while she is shown to have

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 3>this power, she is also shown to be clumsy in

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 3>a sense, like failing to capture rabbits and reacting with

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.919
<v Speaker 3>anger and frustration. So she'll like leap up thirty feet

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in the air, and try to like come down and

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>catch a rabbit and miss. But eventually she succeeds in

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 3>catching a rabbit, not with her mighty leaps, but instead

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 3>by using another strange power, digging tunnels under the snow,

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 3>So she like digs down and then comes up and

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 3>snatches the rabbit from below.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a wolf? Is that? Maybe wolves hunt and

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 2>then the wild they dig under and they come up

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 2>like like a sandwhorm go for powers.

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, somewhere around here, we get an interlude on

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the demon, which is what people are yelling, so we're

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>cutting back to some other actions somewhere else where. The

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 3>editing is so rapid it's really hard to tell what

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at, but we get like rapid shots of

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 3>things happening and then people yelling the demon. So there's

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 3>like something on fire and somebody yells the demon. One

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 3>we see one of the vampire orcs beating somebody up.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 3>We see the guy in the conical hat and the

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 3>silver glam veil blasting a guy with white smoke out

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 3>of his hands, saying you have betrayed me, and the

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 3>guy is blasted and shown frozen against the bark of

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>a tree.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that The only thing we're just supposed

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 2>to take from the scene, I assume, is just that

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 2>the demon and his forces are still out in the

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>world doing harm and perhaps and perhaps they're looking for something.

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 2>That's all we know.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're causing problems. Yeah, but okay, we're about to

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 3>meet a couple of other major characters, master Lee and Wong,

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 3>and this is a kind of duo you might have

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 3>seen in adventure films before. Master Lee is a very

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>typical martial hero. He's a dashing and honorable, wandering swordsman,

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's this kind of character is usually a

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 3>prince or some of their kind of high born and

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 3>then he's got his comedy sidekick, often a cowardly comedy sidekick.

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Though with Wong, I don't know if you've got a

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 3>similar kind of thing. Rob. When we first meet Wong,

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I interpreted him as being sort of hapless and cowardly

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 3>and not very able to take care of himself. But

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 3>then by the end of the movie, he's like he's

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:23.959
<v Speaker 3>kicking butt.

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like we've seen this before in Taiwanese

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:29.919
<v Speaker 2>action films. I think there was a character in Child

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 2>of Peach like this who was very much there for

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 2>comedic effect, but also really good. Did get to tear

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 2>it up in some of the action scenes.

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's just that you don't get a sense

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 3>early on that this character will would be like that. Yeah,

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 3>but anyway, when we first meet them, they've been traveling

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 3>for days on an important mission, and Wong is tired

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 3>and is complaining. He has started complaining by this point,

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know how early he started, so he

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 3>may have been complaining for a long time. He keeps

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 3>falling into holes in the ground and has to be

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 3>rescued over and over. Yeah, Wong and Master Lee catch

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.840
<v Speaker 3>a rabbit for dinner, and warning this is this is

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 3>one scene where you can quite clearly see what looks

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 3>like an unsimulated killing of a rabbit with an arrow.

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 3>There are other scenes with rabbits where something might be

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 3>going on, but it's harder to tell.

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like sometimes wolf Woman may tear a rabbit's body

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>in half or and then eat it's bloody pieces. I'm

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>assuming she's not eating actual raw rabbit. But then there

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>are also scenes where she tears humans in half, and

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm one hundred percent positive those are not real

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 2>humans being torn in half by wolf woman.

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 3>But if you're if you're looking for the place where

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 3>you would really want to fast forward, it's going to

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 3>be right around in here. When when Wong starts trying

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 3>to get after a rabbit.

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Right even though there's there's a fun gag there where

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to throw a knife at the rabbit, and

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 2>then he gets over to the rabbit, he's like, there's

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>an arrow in this rabbit. I thought, I hit the

0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 2>rabbit with my knife, And.

0:51:58.480 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 2>It's not worth watching the animal cruelty if you don't

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 2>see it.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 3>But so anyway, they cook it up for dinner, and

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 3>then Master Lee plays his flute and unfortunately, here they

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 3>have an ill fated encounter with the wolf woman. She

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 3>sneaks up on them in their camp and attacks Wong,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 3>and in reaction, oh no, they shoot her with an arrow.

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 3>That's not what we wanted. But once they realize she

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 3>is a human woman and not a wolf, they tried

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to treat her with medicine, but then the rest of

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 3>the wolves attack their camp. They like jump over the

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 3>fire repeatedly. There is whiplash editing, until finally Master Lee

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 3>manages to kill one of the wolves in the fighting,

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 3>and oh no, it seems that the wolf he killed

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 3>may have been the woman's wolf mother. But the wolf

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 3>woman is unconscious with her wound. She doesn't know that

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>this happens initially, so they track the They fall unconscious

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.760
<v Speaker 3>also for a bit, I think and I forget exactly

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 3>the samequence here, but they eventually track the wolf and

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 3>the wolf woman back to their cave. The woman attacks

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 3>them again at first, revealing that she has great powers,

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:13.320
<v Speaker 3>like she's flying around on wires and stuff, and Wong

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 3>wants to fight back with lethal force, but Master Lee

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:19.800
<v Speaker 3>restrains him. Clearly, Master Lee takes pity on the wolf woman,

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 3>and when she passes out from her injuries, they treat

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 3>her with medicine that they have among their supplies, and

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Master Lee is like, I know what's going on here.

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 3>She is a creature of the wilderness. She is a

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 3>human raised by wolves, and thus she does not know

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 3>any human language and does not understand what death is.

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 3>So she goes on trying to feed to the mother

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 3>wolf even though it has died. And then there is

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 3>some time that passes, so we see wolf Lady, Lee

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and Wong hanging out in the cave. There's some scene

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember how this starts, but where the wolf

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 3>lady is biting him, is biting Lee on the hand,

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 3>and we see Wong lying to her and telling her

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 3>that the wolf mother is still alive somewhere like he

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 3>sort of has to act this out in charades, but

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 3>says she's off getting food somewhere. And then meanwhile we

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 3>get another cut back to civilization. We see in a

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 3>palace somewhere there is a king being attended by servants

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 3>and subjects. This king is named Master You, and they say, Master,

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 3>the Blue Devil commanded us to give him the Amulet

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 3>or he'll kill us all. We have to hurry up

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 3>and find a way to stop him. Another says Master,

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 3>terror is everywhere. Too many people have died already. And

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 3>then the subjects all say in unison, Master You, we

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:40.280
<v Speaker 3>implore you to help us in this time of horror

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 3>and death. And Master You is he's an older man

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 3>with a stern face, angry eyebrows, and very solid beard,

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and he says that he understands the devil must be stopped,

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 3>but he cannot do it without the aid of terrible magic.

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 3>And there is only one thing on Earth that possesses

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:01.799
<v Speaker 3>enough power to feet this plague of demons, and that

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 3>is the White Gensing Route. And then like smash cut

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 3>before he even finishes saying the last word of his

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 3>speech back to the cave.

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, is Master you Lee's dad?

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Okay, Yes, he has sent Lee on a journey

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 3>to retrieve the great White Gensing Route because it is

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 3>the only thing that can that they think can stop

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the demon from attacking them. Now here's something I wasn't

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 3>sure about, is like Witch Devil is the blue Devil,

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 3>because there's another devil they call the Red Devil. I

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 3>think the one in the conical hat is the red Devil.

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.239
<v Speaker 3>So is the blue Devil a different one? I don't

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 3>quite know.

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering if they it was just a mistake

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>that like blue Devil and Red Devil are the same devil,

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 2>because otherwise, who would blue devil be one of the

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 2>spirit Halloween guys?

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Possibly the Witch, but they're saying he, so I think

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 3>not her, So it could be one of the two

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 3>Orc guys. I don't know either way.

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Team Devil, team Demon. Yeah, is what they're up against,

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and the only way to do it, the only way

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.359
<v Speaker 2>to defeat them is white gen Sying route, not red

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 2>gen saying it's got to be white gen sing. Right.

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 3>So back at the Cave of Wolves. How long have

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Lee and Wong been here now unclear, but they're kind

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 3>of settled in and Lee wakes Wong up, telling him, Okay,

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it's time to move on. So, you know, we learned

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 3>that Lee's father sent them on the quest for the

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 3>great the gens En route. They've been looking for it,

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>they can't find it. We find out it's also a

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 3>thousand year gen sing route maybe it only appears once

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 3>every thousand years, and they've been digging holes for it everywhere.

0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 3>So I think these are the holes that Wong was

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 3>falling into earlier, with the holes that were digging looking

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 3>for the root.

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 2>That makes more sense than I had thought originally he

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 2>was falling into a holes that she was digging out

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>to catch rabbits.

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 3>That could be the case also, Actually I don't know

0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 3>for sure. But so they go out digging again. They

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 3>get attacked by wolves again. But if they are just

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 3>cute little doggies like sniffing around at their feet, and

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 3>they are saved by the wolf woman who calls off

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 3>the pack. So the wolves obey her. And around here

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 3>it starts to be quite obvious that Master Lee and

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 3>the wolf Lady are interested in each other. They stare

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 3>at each other. They got like laser beams of love

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 3>coming out of their eyes.

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, how could they not fall in love?

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And then there's this weird scene where I don't

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 3>know what's going on here. It's Master Lee starts adjusting

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 3>the wolf woman's bones, like he sees that she's walking

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 3>around with a hunched posture and a strange gait, like

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 3>like there's something wrong with her spine. So he grabs

0:57:57.080 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 3>her suddenly, and we see an animation of her bones,

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 3>like her vertebrae realigning, and then she starts biting him,

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and Wong says, oh, no, she's biting him again. But

0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 3>after her bones are fixed, and she seems grateful. She's

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of sheepish about the biting, like her mouth is

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 3>covered in blood, but she I think realizes that her

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 3>bones have been fixed.

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, yeah, I mean I just took the

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the bye. It's like I thought of my cat a lot.

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, she's biting me again, Like it's like

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>my relationship with the cat, a wild animal that lives

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>in my house.

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.680
<v Speaker 3>But they, yeah, they mend, they mend this, like she

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the wolf Woman puts moss on Lee's hand and wraps

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 3>it in a leather strap, and it's it's just clearly

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 3>true love, uh Lee. Lee and Wong start trying to

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 3>teach her how to talk and how to have manners.

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 3>So they they say, you have a heart of gold,

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 3>a spirit like spring mist, a face like a flower. Snowflower. Yes,

0:58:56.760 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Snowflower will be your name. And this name only half

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 3>sticks for the rest of the movie.

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but it is used again. I think I

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 2>can't remember as the dub or the subtitles also call

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 2>her winter High Biscus or snow High Biscus or something,

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 2>but Snowflower is what sticks.

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Right after they call her Snowflower. They're trying to teach her.

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to teach her grammar basically, and so she

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 3>learns to say her own name and everybody else's. And

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 3>there's this scene where she's arguing with Wong where she's

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 3>like talking to Wong saying you're wolf woman, and he's saying, no,

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 3>you're a wolf woman.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I have forgotten any elemental Mandarin that I attempted to learn.

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 2>But I have a feeling there might be a little

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 2>bit more to this exchange in the original language, you know,

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 2>like maybe it's a little more clever, and I mean

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 2>it's still hokey, it's still played for laughs, but it

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 2>might be it might play out a little bit differently

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Speaker 2>in the native language.

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 3>That seems quite likely. Yeah, we also get an education

0:59:55.360 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 3>montage here, so you know, wolf woman is learning how

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 3>to be a human. And one day Wolf Woman in

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Masterlea get to talking. She asks him if he's sad,

1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 3>and he says yeah. In the place he comes from,

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:10.040
<v Speaker 3>things are very dire. There is a wicked devil who

1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 3>rules over everything with extraordinary magic, killing many people, terrifying others.

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 3>And Lee explains that he came to the mountain because

1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 3>he needs to find the great White gen sing route,

1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.080
<v Speaker 3>the only thing in the world powerful enough to defeat

1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 3>the demon. But of course the gensing is too strong

1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 3>for a mortal human to consume. It would just wreck them.

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.080
<v Speaker 3>And then the wolf lady gets curious. She's like, what

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 3>is this white gen sing like? And he describes it

1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and she's like, oh, yeah, I ate that years ago

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and there won't be another for a thousand years. Whoops. Yeah,

1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.280
<v Speaker 3>so Wong is mad, but Lee says, perhaps it's for

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 3>the best, and so he's got to go home and

1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 3>tell his father that the route will not be found,

1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and they sort of they convince wolf Woman to come

1:00:55.880 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 3>with them, but first they have to admit to her

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.920
<v Speaker 3>that her wolf mother is dead. I think they've been

1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 3>lying to her about this the whole time so far,

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 3>which is weird, messed up. And then the wolf woman

1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 3>is greatly saddened by this, and the grief over her

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 3>dead wolf mother causes her to turn blonde suddenly, and

1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:19.640
<v Speaker 3>like I think, hair grows down over the front of

1:01:19.680 --> 1:01:22.120
<v Speaker 3>her face. And this is not the last time she

1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:28.160
<v Speaker 3>will like activate her gensing powers through profound emotion and

1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:29.200
<v Speaker 3>turn blonde.

1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, it will happen again, and it's not permanent.

1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 2>When it happens here, I thought, maybe she's just gonna

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:35.600
<v Speaker 2>look like this the rest of the picture, but she

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:35.880
<v Speaker 2>does not.

1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:38.560
<v Speaker 3>So Master Lee and Wong go down the mountain and

1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.960
<v Speaker 3>arrive at the home of Lee's master, his own teacher,

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 3>and this is Master Chew. Master Chew is your classic sage.

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:51.040
<v Speaker 3>He's dressed in all white, with long white hair, gigantic eyebrows,

1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:55.680
<v Speaker 3>like a mintat long flowing mustache and facial hair. And

1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:59.720
<v Speaker 3>they meet him and he's like, I know everything that happened.

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't tell your father about the wolf lady, because he

1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:04.960
<v Speaker 3>will just accuse you of wasting your time chasing women

1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:08.280
<v Speaker 3>instead of accomplishing your quest. And then he also gives

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<v Speaker 3>him a gift. He gives him a little box and

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<v Speaker 3>he says, the thing in this box, it will protect

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<v Speaker 3>you as soon as you open it, and then Master

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<v Speaker 3>Chou flies away.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I like about Master Choo is that he,

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<v Speaker 2>like you encounter this sort of performance and characterization a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in like Hong Kong action films, with shot films

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth, where it's clearly a much younger actor

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<v Speaker 2>who's been dressed up to look like an old, sagely individual.

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<v Speaker 2>So on one level, like it's obvious, but on the

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<v Speaker 2>other level it kind of works because it's like this

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<v Speaker 2>concept of like a Taoist immortal, Like yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>an old young in or young oldie, whichever way you

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<v Speaker 2>want to look at it, Like, yeah, he's an old man,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also there's something unnaturally young about him too,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how much of that was ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>like accident of filmmaking, because you need this older individual

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<v Speaker 2>to also do death defying stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Uns.

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<v Speaker 2>However it comes together. It's kind of a staple of

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<v Speaker 2>the genre that I like.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you agree that there's almost something kind of impish

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<v Speaker 3>or mischievous about Master Chew in the way that he

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<v Speaker 3>just pops up to to with ease deliver information that

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<v Speaker 3>other people had been struggling to learn or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 3>just pops up and is like, hey, I know everything,

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<v Speaker 3>or he just wanders into a scene and says, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the real truth. Here's who the devil is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he is. There is an infish quality to it.

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<v Speaker 3>We also see inside the gift, the box that Lee

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<v Speaker 3>is given, there is some kind of highly reflective mirror

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<v Speaker 3>in there. It's is it kind of an amulet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, some sort of an amulet in there. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, okay, magic guide.

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<v Speaker 3>Him for later. Okay, So next we get a homecoming.

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<v Speaker 3>Lee and Wong returned to Lee's father and they admit

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<v Speaker 3>that they were unable to find the gen Sing. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's got to be another way to stop the demon.

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<v Speaker 3>Next thing is they commence a mission. There's like they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go raid the the demon hideout. I guess so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Lee, his father and a group of warriors, all

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<v Speaker 3>dressed in different colors, trek into this lush green forest,

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<v Speaker 3>which I get. Did you understand this to be the

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<v Speaker 3>demon's camp?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so. Yeah, going into demon country.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a very cool looking and dangerous feeling seen.

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<v Speaker 3>We hear strange bird calls echoing through the trees, and

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<v Speaker 3>at the camp there are the bodies of warriors hanging

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<v Speaker 3>from the trees. But then it's a fake out because

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<v Speaker 3>they think these are the demon's victims, but actually the

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<v Speaker 3>bodies hanging there are the devils pretending to be corpses,

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<v Speaker 3>and they attack.

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<v Speaker 2>And from this week get into the first of many

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<v Speaker 2>action sequences here, where one of the core objectives is

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<v Speaker 2>to nail demons to trees with arrows and or swords.

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<v Speaker 2>This happens a lot and it never gets old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good stuff. And the frenzied editing the demons

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<v Speaker 3>appear and disappear. They use trickery and magic. We see

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<v Speaker 3>the Witch from the opening scene using this. She's wearing

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<v Speaker 3>like a jeweled veil and she uses magic to knock

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<v Speaker 3>Lee unconscious, and then later Lee awakes in the temple

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<v Speaker 3>slash throne room from the beginning of the movie, and

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<v Speaker 3>he now is the one affixed to the red cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, this doesn't look good for him.

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<v Speaker 3>They mock him, and the gist is basically, you're a

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<v Speaker 3>student of Master Chew, so you think you're really hot,

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<v Speaker 3>but are you strong enough to defeat my fingernails? And

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<v Speaker 3>the Demon Priest really likes laughing at nothing and then

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<v Speaker 3>spraying people with dust from his sleeves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the Demon Priest also wants to know what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the White Gensen route, and after torture, Lee

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<v Speaker 3>tells him it was eaten by the Wolf Woman, and

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<v Speaker 3>the demon is mad about this. He does not like

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<v Speaker 3>this information.

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<v Speaker 2>This exchange is great because he's like, somebody ate it?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, somebody ate it? Who ate it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, anyway, we got to get back to the

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<v Speaker 3>wolf woman. What's she been up to? I missed the ye.

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<v Speaker 3>She finally comes down out of the mountain and she

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<v Speaker 3>is now using a fraying knotted rope like Indiana Jones

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<v Speaker 3>uses a whip. Rob did you think that maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>this rope slash whip was made out of rabbit pelts.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the sense I got that this is like

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a super elaborate ninja whip weapon made

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<v Speaker 2>out of rabbit pelts stitch together, but then with some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a four pronged animal claw situation going on

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<v Speaker 2>at either end of said weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, she also has like bird claw feet bird

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<v Speaker 3>feet claws that she uses as weapons. Yes, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>using this whip to swing around through tree branches and

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<v Speaker 3>fly through the forest. And then the Wolf Woman she

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<v Speaker 3>walks into the Kingdom of the Demon. Now, first, she

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<v Speaker 3>goes into a barn, finds a chicken, rips its head

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<v Speaker 3>off and starts eating it raw. And the farmers catch

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<v Speaker 3>her stealing the chicken, and they attack her with weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>and she violently defends herself. So there's another action scene.

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<v Speaker 3>We get a brainwashing scene with Master Lee. So the

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<v Speaker 3>Demon Priest uses the Golden Needle to essentially brainwash Lee

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<v Speaker 3>into making him one of them, to making him loyal

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<v Speaker 3>to the demon. And now Lee goes around doing he's

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<v Speaker 3>an enforcer for the Demon Priest. Basically, he's like going

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<v Speaker 3>up to people's houses telling them to surrender to the

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<v Speaker 3>devil power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's decked out in red. Now cutting like a

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<v Speaker 2>red veil covering half his face.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh no, Lee has become a bad guy. We

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<v Speaker 3>even see him like he goes to people's houses and

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<v Speaker 3>like beats them up. Yeah, there's one house he goes

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<v Speaker 3>to and the demon priest shows up there when the

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<v Speaker 3>guy won't submit, and he's like, you worm, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the guts to stand up to me, And we get

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<v Speaker 3>a sleeve blast of course, you know, he loves to

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<v Speaker 3>shoot the smoke out of his sleeve. Elsewhere, we get

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<v Speaker 3>a scene of the wolf Woman going to a rest stawt.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one we've alluded to, I think a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times now. So she's wandering, she's in civilization now,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's wandering through a city and she discovers that

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<v Speaker 3>she likes the smell of food. So she goes into

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<v Speaker 3>this restaurant. She doesn't know what to order, but she

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<v Speaker 3>listens to what others at the table next to her say.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a large group of people and they

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<v Speaker 3>end up ordering boiled eggs, half of a roasted chicken,

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<v Speaker 3>and five jugs of wine. And so she just orders

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, I'll have what they're happening and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the guy's like, that's too much wine, but

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<v Speaker 3>they bring it to her and she doesn't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to use chopsticks, and she gets drunk, and drunken wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Woman is a problem. She like freaks out, rips out

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<v Speaker 3>her own hair and turns into the Gensing blonde. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the gensing Blonde is like, is a violent, drunken

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<v Speaker 3>mess and wrecks the restaurant and beats up all the

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<v Speaker 3>guys who try to stop her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a mess. And this this whole sequence is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it's played for laughs. It's ridiculous, and

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<v Speaker 2>I loved every minute of it. The comedic sections of

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<v Speaker 2>some of these older movies they don't necessarily always stand

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<v Speaker 2>the test of time or translate all that well.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is all perfect, Yes, But unfortunately she is

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<v Speaker 3>eventually overpowered, I think because she's she's sort of on.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not at her full potential because of the five

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<v Speaker 3>jugs of wine. Right, So the townspeople capture her, They

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<v Speaker 3>beat her with rods, they tie her in a sack,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they dunk her up and down in the

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<v Speaker 3>well in a sad song plays this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This was another just outrageous moment for me though, because

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<v Speaker 2>at least in the dub or the or the subtitles,

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, throw her in the well, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this standard operating procedure? Like, there is a magical

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<v Speaker 2>monster that has been arrested in your town, let us

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<v Speaker 2>throw her into the town's primary water source. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't seem like the best use of your well water.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I mean, I'm assuming you're drinking that water or

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<v Speaker 2>you're using it for for purposes around town. Let's not

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<v Speaker 2>let's not drain and drown supernatural beings in that water

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<v Speaker 2>just to be on the safe side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm confused about the strategy of the town's people here.

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<v Speaker 3>But then we get an intervention by a familiar face.

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<v Speaker 3>Wong shows up. He just happens to be walking by,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, So he like goes and tries to help her,

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<v Speaker 3>but ultimately they are both thrown down into the well,

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<v Speaker 3>and then something there was a disconnect here. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>understand what happened. Somehow, Wong and the wolf woman are

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<v Speaker 3>both washed out of the well into a fishing hole

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<v Speaker 3>where Master Chew is there fishing. Yeah, did you understand

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<v Speaker 3>what that was?

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of felt like a scene was missing there,

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess basically it's like down the well in

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<v Speaker 2>water flushed out to another body of water. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 3>So here is the scene where she meets with master

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<v Speaker 3>Chew and Master Chew tells her about her history. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>long ago, about twenty years ago, your father, the warrior

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<v Speaker 3>of steel Spare, fell under the charms of the Red Devil.

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<v Speaker 3>When he discovered the evils of the Devil, he took

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<v Speaker 3>your mother and you and escaped. They could not outrun

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<v Speaker 3>the Devil's men, and when they killed themselves, you used

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<v Speaker 3>their warm. There was a typo in the subtitles here

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<v Speaker 3>that said blow dough. I think that means blood to

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<v Speaker 3>protect you. Then you were rescued by the White Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>All this has been predestined. And Master Chew also tells

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<v Speaker 3>her that it is her destiny to fight back because

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<v Speaker 3>the Red Devil has wronged her, has killed her parents,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is the Wolf Woman's enemy, so she must

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<v Speaker 3>get revenge against the devil. It is her destiny. And

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<v Speaker 3>then there is some double take editing here. Suddenly we

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<v Speaker 3>go straight from the scene where she's like being told

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<v Speaker 3>this into combat scenes, just action where the Wolf Woman

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<v Speaker 3>is riding on horseback and whipping devil warriors heads off

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<v Speaker 3>with the knotted rope and they're like on a beach

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<v Speaker 3>and then a desert and she's whipping the rope. Their

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<v Speaker 3>heads are everywhere. She's also flying off of city walls

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<v Speaker 3>and attacking the devil soldiers again with the whip. And

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<v Speaker 3>we also see her wearing a different outfit, a very

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<v Speaker 3>cool costume change where it almost suggests she is now

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<v Speaker 3>fulfilling some kind of religious function.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like some sort of divine warrior garb all

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<v Speaker 2>in white. So now she was like wolf Devil Woman,

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<v Speaker 2>the white come back to avenge everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, yes, so wolf devil Woman not devil Wolf Woman

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<v Speaker 3>and Wong they attack the devil's hide out in the woods,

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<v Speaker 3>the one that Master Lee and his father and all

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<v Speaker 3>their men attacked earlier. And there are whoa what to

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<v Speaker 3>say about the scene. There's like flaming bats flying all around.

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<v Speaker 3>Suddenly Wong does seem like a competent fighter. Here we

1:12:44.080 --> 1:12:47.519
<v Speaker 3>see wolf Woman versus the vampire orc that was chasing

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<v Speaker 3>her parents and she pins himTo a tree with swords,

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<v Speaker 3>just general crazy wooshat action, and then we cut from

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<v Speaker 3>there to Wolf Woman and Wong trekking through the desert,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's there are more fight scenes. Here's one that's

1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:05.679
<v Speaker 3>a great payoff where we see Wolf Woman's wolf hunting

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<v Speaker 3>skills that she used against rabbits used against the Devil warriors,

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<v Speaker 3>where she's like digging tunnels and popping up from under

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<v Speaker 3>the sand to yank them down and destroy them. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>there's just the gore effects here. I think fans of

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<v Speaker 3>the show will know. I'm not typically a gore hound.

1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:28.559
<v Speaker 3>Having a lot of blood and guts and stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>a movie is not something I usually get excited about,

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<v Speaker 3>but in this case it is because it's like the

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<v Speaker 3>way the Wolf Woman will like hit one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Devil fighters. She'll hit them and then we just see

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<v Speaker 3>like bloody severed limbs falling to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's almost just the right level of slightly over

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<v Speaker 2>the top but unbelievable practical bloody violence in a picture

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<v Speaker 2>can yeah take on its own reality, like this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>in the Story of Ricky Territory, But like Story of

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky is a film that I haven't seen it a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, so I don't know if it would still

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<v Speaker 2>hold up this way for me. But I remember enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>it on that level, and that it's like everyone but

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<v Speaker 2>the hero's body is made out of just paper mache

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<v Speaker 2>and jello and just comes apart immediately and nothing can

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<v Speaker 2>withstand our hero. And it's the same with Wolf Devil women.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like those action figure I don't remember what they

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<v Speaker 3>were called, but there were these action figures that had

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<v Speaker 3>like a button you could press and all of their

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<v Speaker 3>labels would just fall off of them at once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeap, that's exactly what it's like with anyone who dares

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<v Speaker 2>stand up against our Snowflower.

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<v Speaker 3>So now Wolf Woman and Wong are suddenly in the

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<v Speaker 3>Devil's temple. How'd they get there, I'm not sure, but

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<v Speaker 3>they see Lee dressed in the garb of the Red Devil.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got the you know, the red veil on and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, Lee, what happened to you? They want him back,

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<v Speaker 3>but the witches and the devils say, no, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>have him. He's with us. Now there's more fighting, just

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<v Speaker 3>general great fight scenes. I can't recount every point here,

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<v Speaker 3>but I love them. Somewhere in here, somebody says, huh,

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<v Speaker 3>she fights like a wolf. But this seems to me

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<v Speaker 3>using a whip and jumping a lot yep and the demon.

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<v Speaker 3>The demon comes and tries to spray them with his

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<v Speaker 3>sleeve dust, which of course is very very dangerous potent magic,

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<v Speaker 3>and they beg Lee for help, and this suddenly snaps

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<v Speaker 3>Lee out of his trance or something, and he jumps

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<v Speaker 3>in to save them, and then he flies away carrying

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf Woman and Wong, and Wong has been sleeve sprayed

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<v Speaker 3>real bad, but he's not dead. And then suddenly they're

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<v Speaker 3>just somewhere else being treated by Master Chew. It all happens.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a very loose spatial logic to what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 3>and it happens so fast with so little explanation. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think Rob correct me if I'm wrong. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Lee explains that he was never actually like hypnotized by

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<v Speaker 3>the Devil. He was just a spy learning how the

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<v Speaker 3>Devil's palace works.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, because Master Choo's amulet protected him from being

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<v Speaker 2>brainwashed by the Demon cult. So he's just been in

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<v Speaker 2>deep cover the whole time, which, as he pointed out,

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<v Speaker 2>includes beating the crap out of innocence in earlier scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I guess he thinks it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he learned the secret of the demon, which is

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<v Speaker 3>that there's this golden needle which has this great power.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw it at the beginning being inserted into a

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<v Speaker 3>doll to cause pain, and it can be used on

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<v Speaker 3>the demons too, I guess. So we get a final

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<v Speaker 3>showdown scene where Lee Wong and the Wolf Woman team up.

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<v Speaker 3>They go back to the Red Devil Temple and they're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>for there's some exchange. I'm afraid I'm getting this wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're like, we're here to kill you, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Devil's like, you can't be serious, and they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that is correct, we're here to kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a great scene where they're they're, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>attacking the d Dnomonic Temple here and in comes the

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<v Speaker 2>lead demon priest and he said, or at least the

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<v Speaker 2>Subtime'll say, and I think maybe the dub did this too.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, look at me, fools, you know, I am

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing it, does this huge intro number, and

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, it's just crazy fighting from there on out.

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<v Speaker 2>There was this It was established earlier that our lead

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<v Speaker 2>demon here has like frozen would be heroes in a

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<v Speaker 2>state of undeath. Aout the temple and they can be

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<v Speaker 2>brought back to life by removing their needles, and when

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<v Speaker 2>they come back to life, they are essentially jungshi. They

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<v Speaker 2>are the hopping vampires, so without all the rules of

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<v Speaker 2>hopping vampires, but they are moving like hopping vampires in

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<v Speaker 2>these sequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So there's that going on. There's just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of tremendous fighting in this final showdown. There's the Witch

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<v Speaker 3>who's using her spider and cobweb powers, and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>also a big twist slash identity revealed that is then

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<v Speaker 3>double twisted and undermined if I understood correctly, yes, sort of,

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<v Speaker 3>So like the Red Devil, they get his mask off

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<v Speaker 3>and he reveals his identity and oh no, it is

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<v Speaker 3>Master Lee's father, bump bum bum bum Bomb, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted the White gen Sen route so that we

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<v Speaker 3>could rule over the world, and you know, you and

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<v Speaker 3>I as father and son, we could rule the galaxy

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<v Speaker 3>his father and son. But then I think Master Chew

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<v Speaker 3>walks in and is is like, no, he's not actually

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<v Speaker 3>your father. He's just a shape shifter who can look

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<v Speaker 3>like anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Bump Bump Bomb. But yeah, she just like strolls out

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<v Speaker 2>from behind a pillar and tells everybody does.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so good. Yeah uh, and of course the

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<v Speaker 3>good guys win in the end, and yeah, I loved

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf Devil Woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of comes to an abrupt end though after

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<v Speaker 2>that it's just kind of like, okay, forces of evil

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<v Speaker 2>or defeat it and that's it. Everybody can go home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not clear what's happening to Wolf Woman at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, Like they defeat the devil. Oh, and Master

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<v Speaker 3>Chew reveals that he was his evil brother, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and that he killed Lee's father and then turned to

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<v Speaker 3>look like him. But anyway, they defeated the devil. Devil

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<v Speaker 3>turns to ash. But we were told earlier by Master

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<v Speaker 3>two that it would take all of Snowflower's magical ginsing

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<v Speaker 3>strength to defeat the devil, and then after the conflict,

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<v Speaker 3>she would wither and die. And now here we are,

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<v Speaker 3>after the conflicts. They have defeated the Devil, and Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>Woman is shown to be woozy and reeling, and Lee

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<v Speaker 3>goes to kind of steady her, and I guess we're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be in suspense, like, oh, is she gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be okay? But we don't find out. They just cut

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<v Speaker 3>to the end, so no resolution on what happens to

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf Woman. I do wish there was a happy epilogue.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see them going to restaurants again, all

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<v Speaker 3>four of the heroes going to restaurants together.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have been good, like see if she has

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<v Speaker 2>really learned how to use chopsticks yet or if she's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna, you know, end up eating the fish with

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<v Speaker 2>her hands again.

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<v Speaker 3>More more Wolf Woman eating too many boiled eggs and

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<v Speaker 3>drinking too much wine.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that is Wolf Devil Woman. Quite a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Never a dull moment. This is not one that is

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<v Speaker 2>a slog to watch by any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 3>Hats off to Pearl Chang. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and close up

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<v Speaker 2>this episode of Weird House Cinema, but we would love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from everyone out there. Are you a fan

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