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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and

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Speaker 3: today we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty two Taiwanese fantasy wusha film Wolf Devil Woman aka

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Speaker 3: Wolf and Queen aka Wolf and Ninja, which was distributed

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Speaker 3: by IFD, a company that apparently really enjoyed giving movies

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Speaker 3: an English title with the word ninja in them. Whether

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Speaker 3: or not the movie had anything to do with a

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Speaker 3: ninja usually, I think it didn't. A bit of just

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Speaker 3: slot ninja in there. So Wolf and Ninja, I guess

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Speaker 3: that'll kind of work. But I'm gonna call it Wolf

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Speaker 3: Devil Woman because I think that is it combines all

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Speaker 3: of the themes of the movie. You definitely have a woman,

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Speaker 3: she is kind of a woman, and there are major

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Speaker 3: themes of devils, even though the Wolf Woman is not

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Speaker 3: really a devil.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I think this is the title to go with, So.

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Speaker 3: Rob, I don't know if you have another contender in

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Speaker 3: mind here, but I would say of all the films

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Speaker 3: we have ever covered on Weird House, I think Wolf

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Speaker 3: Devil Woman is one of the most shrouded in mystery,

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Speaker 3: and by that I just mean that we were able

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Speaker 3: to turn up very little objective information in English about

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Speaker 3: the production history and the people who made this movie,

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Speaker 3: at least compared to most of the movies that we

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Speaker 3: watch on the show. But one thing that is for

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Speaker 3: certain is we know it is. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 3: movies are all the work of many people. There's never

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Speaker 3: just one creator. But this movie, I think is well

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Speaker 3: known as a product of a singular genius by the writer, director, producer,

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Speaker 3: and star Zang Ling, known in international releases as Pearl Chang.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pearl Chang is the moniker that I believe IFD

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Speaker 2: gave her just to like, you know, to spice it

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Speaker 2: up in the same way that suddenly it's a ninja movie.

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Speaker 2: Call her Pearl Chang. It's just marketing.

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Speaker 3: So Zangling or Pearl Chang wrote and directed four movies

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Speaker 3: around the early eighties, and now I have only seen

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Speaker 3: the other three because she has such a weird, bizarre,

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Speaker 3: pleasing and distinct style. This is a movie that Wolf

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Speaker 3: Devil Woman, I mean specifically, is a movie that has

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Speaker 3: had a reputation for many years as sort of one

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Speaker 3: of as like a low budget bad movie. People thought

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Speaker 3: on low quality VHS tapes and the kind of movie

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Speaker 3: people would put on for a laugh. And it certainly

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Speaker 3: does have elements that are very funny. But I also

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Speaker 3: think this movie really does have a genius and a

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Speaker 3: style of its own that should be appreciated. Like it's

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Speaker 3: not just ironically good. This is an exercise in imagination,

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Speaker 3: and I really love it for what it is.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's rigally entertaining. It is intentionally comedic throughout.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just a situation of like, oh look

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Speaker 2: look what they attempted to do, isn't it funny? Now,

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Speaker 2: Like they're attempting and succeeding multiple times with comedy. We

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Speaker 2: have a great central performance by Pearl Chang, who is

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Speaker 2: at once funny, like broadly so, and yet never really

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Speaker 2: never in a way that feels mean. Also, she gets

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Speaker 2: she does get to be like the complete like stone

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Speaker 2: pull those levers as well. But it's just such a

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Speaker 3: So like by the end of the movie, the Wolf

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Speaker 3: she's hardcore, Like she she's a stone cold warrior who

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Speaker 3: and does like slapstick sort of self deprecating klutz humor.

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Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, you know, it's based on my observations

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Speaker 2: from over at Golden Ninja Video. You know, it's like

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Speaker 3: She really embraces the wolfinness of the wolf character. But

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Speaker 3: just in general, this movie is so it's not just

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Speaker 3: great stuff. It's absolutely nuts and it's awesome. One I

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Speaker 3: do want to issue one word of warning if you're

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Speaker 3: unusual thing in it. There were some rabbit hunting scenes

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Speaker 3: they are unsimulated, so large warning. If that's going to

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Speaker 3: the fast forward button ready or just skip this one

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Speaker 3: because there is unsimulated rabbit bow hunting on screen here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, an unfortunate reality of some of these older pictures,

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Speaker 2: a lot of horsemanship on camera. There is some you know,

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Speaker 2: ultimately some animal cruelty going on there that may be

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Speaker 2: lost to the average viewer because we just don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: recognize what goes in to performing stunts with horses, right,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, not to forgive it. It's there and if

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Speaker 2: now it's worth pointing out. This is our third Taiwanese film.

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Speaker 2: I believe we previously discussed Thrilling Bloody Sword and Child

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Speaker 2: of Peach. Both of those are very weird movies. I

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Speaker 2: would say Thrilling Bloody Sword is more unrelenting psychedelic wusha

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's.

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Speaker 2: Interesting to try and sort of place where Wolf Devil

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Speaker 2: psychedelics is Throwing Bloody Sword, but it has its moments,

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Speaker 2: and on the other hand, it does have plenty of

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Speaker 3: The commentary track on the release of this movie that

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Speaker 3: he says several things are like, first of all, Taiwanese

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Speaker 3: unusual fantasy elements, often more gore. You definitely see that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember one thing that he mentioned in some

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Speaker 3: I do really love a lot of the stunts in

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Speaker 3: Like there is the Wusha Star often has a kind

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Speaker 3: of flying typeability or a weightlessness that they were able

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Speaker 3: similar kinds of stunts to you would what you would

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Speaker 3: the way they appear on screen here. Often, like when

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it has some of these these great woucha

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. There's there's a lot of sorcery too. So,

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Speaker 3: like the bad guys in the movie have a habit

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Speaker 2: There's the Lady Demon Minion who covers people with spiders

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Speaker 2: and web yes, the Witch. Yeah, so there's plenty of

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Speaker 3: Okay, should we do the elevator pitch?

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Speaker 2: Let's have it.

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Speaker 3: A young woman is raised by wolves after her parents

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Speaker 3: they teach her to speak human language and live like

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Speaker 2: All right, Joe, what's your what's your tagline for this one?

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Speaker 3: Who are you gonna call white gensing? Okay, gen sing root?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, white gensing has a major role in this picture,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact that, as far as I can understand,

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Speaker 2: you encounter and you can buy it. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know if this was ultimately something where the actual term

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Speaker 2: you know that we've discussed in the Unstuffed to Blow

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Speaker 2: of your Mind before. You know, some sort of mythical

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Speaker 2: substance that grows on a sacred mountain and has to

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Speaker 2: you know, linked to the source material, and it's just

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Speaker 2: been replaced in dubs and subtitles as white genzing.

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Speaker 3: Hmm. Yeah, I didn't know what to make of that.

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Speaker 2: All right. Normally we would we would hit you with

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Speaker 2: some trailer audio right now, but as far as I know,

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Speaker 2: there is not a theatrical trailer available for this film,

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Speaker 2: either for its original market or uh, you know, for

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Speaker 2: international markets. So instead, I thought we just might have

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Speaker 2: just a quick audio sample of some of the audio

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Speaker 2: nuttiness of this film, because there are multiple times while

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Speaker 2: even if you weren't watching this film, if you're just

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Speaker 2: listening to it, it's just absolutely bonkers.

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Speaker 3: All right, would you like to talk about the connections

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Speaker 3: be shot mostly on indoor stage sets. But apparently Miraculous

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00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: Flower had a lot of outdoor filming locations and it

435
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: was quite lovely looking.

436
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. This extra included one clip from some sort of

437
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: a waterfall that looked a lot like the waterfall from

438
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Child Peach. I'm not certain, but I mean, obviously there's

439
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: more than one waterfall in Taiwan. But at any rate,

440
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: very very interesting use of outdoor filming locations for sure,

441
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: as opposed to these indoor sets, which I don't know.

442
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: I love a great over the top Taiwanese Wu shaw set,

443
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: and we can get those in this picture.

444
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get a great temple set for they kick

445
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: off the movie with a rollicking crucifixion at an indoor

446
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: temple set, let's see. According to this documentary, this seems

447
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: less well founded, but just sort of general rumors about

448
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: Zengling's reputation. She was considered something of a loaner and

449
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: was characterized by some as maybe difficult to work with,

450
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: or as a perfectionist and difficult to work with, but

451
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Declu argues in this documentary that it's quite possible that

452
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 3: having a reputation for being difficult to work with was

453
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: just like men in a male dominated industry reacting with

454
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: alarm to a woman who is insisting on doing things

455
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: her way. Yeah.

456
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: We've touched on the whole difficult to work with a

457
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: label before on the show, which can mean a lot

458
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: of things. You can see it applied to people like

459
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: say Kloskinski, who I think was legitimately difficult, if not

460
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: impossible to work with.

461
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: That was a hymn thing, not an other people thing.

462
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but other times who can say, you know, it

463
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: could be just the slightest thing possible that just goes

464
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: to the echo chamber and then it becomes difficult to

465
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: work with, you know.

466
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. I can certainly imagine in any national context, really

467
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: that a woman making films might well just like be

468
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: have a creative vision of her own and she's like,

469
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: this is the way we need to do it, and

470
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: maybe some guys around her are just freaked out by that.

471
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: But anyway, in nineteen eighty three, I think this is

472
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: one of her final credits. She acted alongside Jackie Chan

473
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: but also Jimmy Wang Yu and Brigent Lynn in Fantasy

474
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: Mission Force, which was a Hong Kong a sort of

475
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: martial arts fantasy horror movie. And then she also released

476
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: her final film, General Invincible in nineteen eighty three, after

477
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: which she apparently just disappeared from public view. So there

478
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: is not really, as far as I could tell, anything

479
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: known about what she did after that.

480
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's been no death date for her,

481
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: so one presumes that she's still alive, but doesn't seem

482
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: to have been a public persona in any way after

483
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: this last film, which is fine. We've talked about this before,

484
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: like Warhawk Tanzania made basically just a very small handful

485
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: of pictures and then disappeared. I'mbly still alive, but maybe

486
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 2: just didn't want to be part of the limelight after that,

487
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: And if so, more power to him and more power

488
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: to Pearl Chang if that is the case here.

489
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: Yes, retiring from a public facing profession and just living

490
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: your life. I give that my full blessing. It's a

491
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: choice I support.

492
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know about you, Joe, but you know

493
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: it's you can't help but compare a performer, especially you know,

494
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: a real larger than a live performer, to try and

495
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: find some comparison to them, either like in current or

496
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: recent or like a different nationality of cinema. And the

497
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: main person that I kept thinking of watching Pearl Chang

498
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: on screen is Amy Sedaris. I'm a big Amy Sedaris fan.

499
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: And there's just something, especially in the comedic scenes, the

500
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: way that Amy Sedaris really commits to these you know,

501
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: weird and wacky moments. I felt like she had a

502
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: similar energy here Pearl Chang did.

503
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe like hopping around and falling on your

504
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: face with the rabbit blood all over your chin. Yeah yeah, yeah.

505
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: There are multiple parts in the film where I was

506
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: like this, Amy Sedaris would have totally done this.

507
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the restaurant chicken disaster scene.

508
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So stuff like that, And I don't know, Also,

509
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: maybe I'm you know, I can't help but compare, and

510
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, think about Amy Sedaris as someone who also

511
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: has like a very seems to have a very singular

512
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: vision and you know, a big personality, but also is

513
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think Amy Sides is a loner

514
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: by any means, but she also I've seen things where

515
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: she talks about, like, you know, enjoying crafting by herself

516
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: and her apartment and that sort of thing, So you know,

517
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: I can kind of line them up in my own

518
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: imagination on that level as well.

519
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I no offense to Amy Sidaris at all. I

520
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: can see her less in some of the other aspects

521
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: of this role that Pearl Chang does so wonderfully, like

522
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: the when she actually becomes the like the cold, the

523
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: cold steel warrior at the end.

524
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, when she gets into the like the

525
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: stone cold killer mode. Yeah, it's a different act altogether,

526
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: all right. Now, one of the challenges that and a

527
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: challenge we're not really going to be able to overcome here,

528
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: is that on all of the databases we had access to,

529
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: none of the actors are matched up with a character name.

530
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: And on top of that, the character name's very depending

531
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: if you're doing the dub or you're doing the subtitles,

532
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: so it gets very confusing and difficult to chart exactly

533
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: who everyone is supposed to be. Luckily, Pearl Chang's character

534
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: in this snowflower or wolf woman or wolf and queen,

535
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: the various monikers that are attributed to her. She's the

536
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: main character. She's see really the only one. You have

537
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: to be super invested in and know what her name is. Yeah,

538
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: but as far as we can tell, I believe Sifing

539
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: is the actor who plays Master Lee. Master Lee being

540
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: the sort of he's sort of in the mold of

541
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: the traditional male hero in the picture.

542
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: He's the wandering prince with the powerful sword. Yeah.

543
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: So not a lot about this particular actor either. He

544
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: was born in nineteen forty two. This may be his

545
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: most well known film internationally, but he was also in

546
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six's Adventure of Shaolin, seventy eight's The Zodiac Fighters,

547
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty two's The Hell and just basically a character.

548
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know who played these characters. But he has

549
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: a sidekick named Wong but also possibly Rudy I think,

550
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: but will probably refer to him as Wong. And then

551
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: he has a master, like a Shaolin master that he

552
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: studied under, by the name of Master Chew.

553
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, all right.

554
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: And then Master Lee's father I'm not sure if we

555
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: know his name, but he has a father that he

556
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: meets with and is sent on missions by This character

557
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: is played by Se Wang, who lived nineteen thirty through

558
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, an actor who appeared in two films we've

559
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: talked about on the show before. Nineteen seventy five is

560
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: The Super Inframan, in which he plays a professor at

561
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: one point, and also nineteen seventy six is The Oily Maniac.

562
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: This was a Shaw Brothers melt monster movie. He has

563
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: a I think it's a small part that he plays

564
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: a lawyer in that man.

565
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Those are like the two ends of the spectrum, like

566
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: the like with Inframan, you've got the most beautiful, holy,

567
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: pure imagination ever and then with The Oily Maniac, just

568
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: the seediest thing we've ever watched.

569
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And to be clear, we do avoid most

570
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: CED films, but this one has some CD elements that

571
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: kind of like slipped in early on in weird house

572
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: cinema that we have we generally avoid later on. But

573
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: still very cool monster and I'm guessing a great performance

574
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: by Weighing here as a lawyer. His other film credits

575
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: include nineteen eighty six Is a Better Tomorrow directed by

576
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: John Wu and starring Chawion Fat and the Leslie Chung.

577
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: He has one hundred and ninety credits on Hong Kong

578
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: Movie Database, so it seems like he was kind of

579
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: like a workhorse performer that they brought in for this one.

580
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: That's my interpretation anyway. And then as far as the

581
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: music goes, the credited composer is Huang Mao Sean born

582
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: nineteen forty, Taiwanese film composer whose credits include eighty two's

583
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: The Green Green Grass of Home and also nineteen eighty

584
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: one's The Devil. I will say the music and overall

585
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: soundscape in this movie tends to rapidly move in and

586
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: out of just electronic madness with demon growls, demon laughter,

587
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: and howling wolves to like sort of traditional East Asian themes.

588
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: There was one review I read where I couldn't confirm

589
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: whether this was true or not, but it alleged that

590
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: this movie also used some music from Dawn of the Dead.

591
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: That would be believable. Yeah, there are a lot of

592
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: these pictures that seem to play a little fast and

593
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: loose with their soundtrack. I mean you find that in

594
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: others as well. I was watching Ramsey Brothers Indian horror movie,

595
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: just like last week, and there at one point where

596
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: they just go straight into Friday the thirteenth music purchase,

597
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: even with the sound effect, all of it just blatant

598
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: legend ground here. Yeah, just blatantly ripped from Friday the thirteenth.

599
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: So you know that sort of thing occurs.

600
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, but I'd be really impressed if it

601
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: just started featuring the Darkest Side of Night from Jason

602
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Takes Manhattan.

603
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that was the rock number.

604
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fallen Angels into the Street.

605
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing is obvious as all that here though.

606
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: All right, you ready to talk about the plot.

607
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's talk about this plot.

608
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Rob, I've pulled in some screenshots from the first

609
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: couple of minutes of the movie that you can peruse

610
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: while I'm trying to describe what happens here, because it's

611
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: a lot to take in really fast.

612
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first three minutes of this movie are incredibly

613
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: weird and captivating. So if you're just on the fence,

614
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: go check out the first three minutes on tuby or

615
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: wherever you find a rip of it. I think you'll

616
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: be convinced.

617
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the film begins with lightning ripping across the

618
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: sky that is covered in smoke. We see a dead

619
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: tree with barren limbs burning in the night. Then we

620
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: see a golden idol in the crude shape of a

621
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: man photographed in a room with violet walls. Then some

622
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: kind of throne room or temple with like an elevated

623
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: area above, you know, in the center of the room,

624
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: big old platform in the center. Hooded figures in black

625
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: and white carry candles across the floor and gather in

626
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: advance of an ominous ceremony. Then we get our title screen.

627
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: In this version it says wolf and ninja. So the

628
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: hooded figures begin to approach the altar, the head of

629
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: the temple, and they are carrying with them a man.

630
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: The man is prone and tied to a beam. But wait,

631
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: it's not just a beam. It is a cross. It

632
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: is a man tied to a blocky red crucifix, and

633
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: the man on the cross is hoisted up above the

634
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: gathered congregation of evil. He's tied to the cross, and

635
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: then a horrible figure takes center stage. It is someone

636
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: in dark clothing wearing a red and gold cape and

637
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: a glittering silver conical hat with a veil that falls

638
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: over the face and hangs down in front and back,

639
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: and on the front of the conical part of the

640
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: hat there is a hot pink skull and crossbones. So

641
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: it is essentially a pirate glam rock capirote or like

642
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: a penitent's hood.

643
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the Red Devil, which we'll find out later.

644
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: And he's just fabulous, just dressed to the nines here

645
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: and seem conceived in a way to where it does

646
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: seem like multiple influences are coming together, Like this is

647
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: not sort of your stereotypical like Hong Kong action picture

648
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Wu Shaw villain. Like there are elements like you said

649
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: of like you know, Spanish Spanish inquisition perhaps and penitents

650
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: and also I guess pirates and also like disco warriors.

651
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pink skull and crossbones. Yeah, but the sparkles,

652
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: it's like glittering.

653
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So already just like three minutes into the picture,

654
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: we have this character. We have a black magic crucifixion.

655
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on.

656
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: So we got several observers looking on in fear, others

657
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: looking on with excitement. Some of the people in the

658
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: room here are like vampires and Orcs. There's one guy

659
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: that's just I don't know is the like, is the

660
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: green orc mask supposed to be a vampire. I don't

661
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: know exactly what this guy's deal is.

662
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of spirit Halloween mask masks going on

663
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: that are not convincing as actual fleshy faces. They look

664
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: like Halloween masks. But I wouldn't change them for anything. No, No,

665
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: they they ultimately work within the context of this film,

666
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: but they are, I guess, if you want to get critical,

667
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: some of the weakest choices in the picture.

668
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the glam rock demon priest who he also

669
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: has I didn't even get to this part yet. He's

670
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: got knives for fingers, but they're not like Freddy Krueger knives,

671
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: which are oriented what you might say, perpendicular to like

672
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: the knuckles on the on the fingers. These are like

673
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: sort of knife shovels that extend about a foot out

674
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: from the tips of the fingers, like fingernails, essentially along

675
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: the contours of what a fingernail would be, but more

676
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: curved inward and sharper.

677
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and the dub for this character's voice is terrific.

678
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: It's just just the right level of cheesy over the

679
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: top villain. That works perfectly with such a cheesy over

680
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: the top villain, so again that the dub matches the

681
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: context of a picture perfectly.

682
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: Here. Yes, so the demon priest picks up a doll

683
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 3: or an idol and then pierces its heart with a stick.

684
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: And then this, by the principle commonly associated in movies

685
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: with a voodoo doll, causes an equivalent wound to explode

686
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: on the chest of the man tied to the cross.

687
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: So the wound is the wound here is actually rendered

688
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: with cell animation, which I love. And so like a

689
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: hole that looks almost like a gap blasted in rock

690
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: with cracks all around, it opens up over the man's

691
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: heart and red blood pours out. And again this is

692
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: on a on a film like film like still film

693
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: of the guy, and it's animated on top of that.

694
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I love it. It's just it's like

695
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: they could have done more of just like a traditional

696
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: blood effect, and that would have been that would have

697
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: been great. Years later, this would have probably been cgi blood,

698
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: but instead we have this. We're between those two and

699
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: it ultimately looks really cool.

700
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some really great cell animation that comes in

701
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: later too, Like in the very last scene there's some

702
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: cell animated fire that is beautiful. Also, I should say,

703
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: throughout the scene, the demon or the demon priest, he

704
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 3: keeps making a grunting sound which then echoes back a lot.

705
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: So imagine it's this voice that goes like yo, but

706
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: then it echoes thirty times.

707
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Yes, there is a lot of that. Like I said,

708
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: the soundscape for this picture is pretty Bonker's just on

709
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: its own.

710
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: Then the demon priest takes the doll and turns it

711
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: upside down and dunks it headfirst into this big old

712
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: vat of frothy red goo, and this causes some kind

713
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: of pain and suffering for the man on the cross.

714
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: And then in the background of the room there is

715
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: a couple holding a baby wrapped in yellow swaddling, and

716
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like, this is not the kind of event

717
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: you bring a baby to.

718
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: And I think they're having the same realization. They're like, honey,

719
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: I think it's time we fled the cult. I think

720
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: the devil Colt has gotten a little too heavy for us,

721
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: and we need to think about raising this child somewhere else.

722
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: Exactly, they're observing this ritual torture in horror, and yeah,

723
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're doing here, but they obviously

724
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: don't like it. And then we see the man on

725
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: the cross. He spits blood and dies. The doll falls

726
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: to the floor and shatters, and then suddenly we just

727
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 3: smash cut to the mother and the father we saw

728
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 3: in the room. They're now outside on a snow covered

729
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: mountain side, surrounded by evergreen trees, fleeing for their lives

730
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: with their baby in their arms. The man and the

731
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: woman are frightened and exhausted, and we see them both

732
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: carrying swords, so I guess this is like a married

733
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: pair of warriors. And while running through the snow, the

734
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: man and woman are attacked by fighters rest in red,

735
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: wielding swords and pole arms. And then the leader of

736
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: the demon fighters appears, and he is one of the

737
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: guys we saw at the ceremony, the guy in the

738
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: goofiest of all the masks. It's like the vampire orc mask.

739
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other mask looked cooler, So I do wonder

740
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: why they take this one to do these things with.

741
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: It's good, so he said, the demon leader. He goes

742
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: to the he's talking to the parents and he says, traitor,

743
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: you will be punished for your treachery, and the mother

744
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: says to him, we'd rather die than go back to

745
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: your hell and serve under you. So did they come

746
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: from Hell? Possibly? Well maybe al And then the parents

747
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: they the parents are brave fighters, so they finned off

748
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: the demon hnchmen. Initially they sort of duel with them

749
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: while they try to escape up the mountain. I think

750
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: we do learn that the mother's name is Jade. And

751
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: then when the parents are eventually cornered by the fighters

752
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: from Hell, they decide to.

753
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: Things.

754
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: I was about to say things start getting weird, but

755
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: they've been weird. Here's another weird thing. They decide to

756
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: sacrifice themselves to protect their baby. And the way they

757
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: decide to do this is they stab each other with

758
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: swords and then rapidly slam their heads into the ground

759
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: until the headbutting of the mountain causes an avalanche, and

760
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: the avalanche comes down and covers everything with snow. And

761
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: then they bleed on their child and they say the

762
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: blood will keep the baby warm and protect her from

763
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: the snow.

764
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: Wow. So many, so many issues of this plan. Uh yeah,

765
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: and I have to say too, in that crazy moment

766
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: when this first happens, it's not entirely clear that they

767
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: are stabbing themselves. It look I thought they were stabbing

768
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: the baby and running the baby. Yeah, Like I was like,

769
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, this movie got so strange and weird

770
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: and dark all of a sudden I had It wasn't

771
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: until the second time I was going through it with

772
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: the dub and the subtitle of them like, Okay, they're

773
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: clearly stabbing themselves, And then I understood this ridiculous plots

774
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: of theirs to bleed all over their baby so that

775
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: their warm blood will keep the baby warm, as if

776
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: blood is has self sustaining warmth for us. Yeah, but

777
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, within a mythic context, fine.

778
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: I criticize this plan as not realistic.

779
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: I probably supposed to be more symbolic than realistic, I recognize.

780
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the avalanche comes down and buries them, but

781
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: the Devil warriors are not satisfied. They go digging in

782
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: the snow to find the three of them, and they

783
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: eventually do find the two parents, but before they can

784
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: collect the child from underneath the avalanche, they are driven

785
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: away by wolves. Wolves come out howling and chase away

786
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: the demon fighters, but actually are these wolves?

787
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: Know?

788
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: They're they're sweet doggies. They're they look like good boys.

789
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: They're just straight up German shepherds without anything ad like

790
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: they're not wearing anything weird, like they didn't put extra

791
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: fur or anything.

792
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, but so I love these dogs. The dogs

793
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: run up and they start eating the parents' bodies.

794
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they distress the bodies to pieces and big

795
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: bloody splashes in the white snow.

796
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're like ripping arms off and stuff. But

797
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: then when a quote wolf finds the baby, the wolf

798
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: does not harm the baby and instead brings her back

799
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: to the wolf den, which is like a cave of ice,

800
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: a frosty cave where the wolves make their home, and

801
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: we see the wolf carrying the baby along the way,

802
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: which is, by the way, clearly just like a weightless

803
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: yellow bundle of cloth. But then back at the cave,

804
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: the wolf mother takes care of the baby and crouches

805
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: over her to protect her, and then we see time

806
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: is passing.

807
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: This includes multiple shots though, of the baby crying quite

808
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: audibly while the wolf like growls at the baby and

809
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: the baby's covered with blood, and this feels like it

810
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: goes on for about five minutes.

811
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: Yes, but the wolf is it is weird, but the

812
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: wolf is protecting the baby. Yes. So years into the

813
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: future we see that the child is growing up now

814
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: that I don't know how old she's supposed to be

815
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: in the scene, but she's older now. She can walk

816
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: around and stuff. She's living with the wolves, and she

817
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: is dressed in furs and pelts and just like tearing

818
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: into a big, old, bloody hunk of raw meat, just

819
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: like eating the raw meat, getting blood everywhere. And we

820
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: see her practicing hunting. She tries to hunt a rabbit

821
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: like her wolf family here does, but she fails and

822
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: she ends up tumbling down a hill and getting injured

823
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: and then lying back in the cave covered in blood

824
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: from her injuries while trying to hunt. The wolf girl

825
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: is nursed back to health by her wolf mother, and

826
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: in fact, the wolf mother brings her some kind of medicine.

827
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: The wolf I guess has medical knowledge and brings her

828
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: strange plant matter found from outside. What could this be?

829
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: I believe this is going to be the special ginseng

830
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: root that we learn about later.

831
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're all a part of the wolf devil

832
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: woman diet. If you may be adherence to the Wolf

833
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Devil Woman diet. It's just raw meat and white genzy.

834
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: But you can eat as much white gen sing as

835
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: you want.

836
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: Oh but when you follow the Wolf Devil Woman diet,

837
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: your your hair turns white and then turns black again.

838
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: But then at intermittent periods for the rest of your life,

839
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: we'll just turn white at certain times.

840
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: There are side effects.

841
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, time okay, So time passes once again, and when

842
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: we once again meet the Wolf Girl, she has become

843
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 3: the Wolf Devil Woman. So now we see Pearl Chang

844
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: Zengling is out hunting. She's like better at hunting now,

845
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: except so we see her hunting rabbits and she's she's

846
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: dressed in the garb of the wilderness, so it's all furs,

847
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: but also a wolf's head cap. And I was just thinking,

848
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: so is this it looks it's almost like it's supposed

849
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: to be a camouflage for her hunting rabbits, so she's

850
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: like camouflaged as the rabbit's natural predator.

851
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: This is the reveal of this CopM and of the

852
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: adult Wolf Devil Woman is just this is one of

853
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: those moments where you watch in the film and it's

854
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: like you feel like you're going crazy for a moment

855
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: because it's like a snowbank. And then here is this

856
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: what looks like a like a stuffed wolf or a

857
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: stuffed fox or a stuffed German shepherd head peeking over

858
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: like muppeting up at you, and you're thinking like what

859
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: is this? Is this a puppet effect? And then you're like, no,

860
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: this head is on top of Pearl Chang's head. This

861
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: is a hat or a costume. She is wearing some

862
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: sort of a head dress. And then she commences to

863
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: hunt rabbits.

864
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. And so now grown up and

865
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 3: having learned the ways of the wolves and also benefited

866
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: from the potency of the white Gensen root, we see

867
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: that the Wolf Woman has extraordinary powers, so she can

868
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: make herself weightless in classic Wusha Wireworks style, so she

869
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: dump jumps dozens of feet into the air glides like

870
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 3: a spirit on the wind. But I think it's funny

871
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: that it's cool that while she is shown to have

872
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: this power, she is also shown to be clumsy in

873
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: a sense, like failing to capture rabbits and reacting with

874
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 3: anger and frustration. So she'll like leap up thirty feet

875
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: in the air, and try to like come down and

876
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: catch a rabbit and miss. But eventually she succeeds in

877
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: catching a rabbit, not with her mighty leaps, but instead

878
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: by using another strange power, digging tunnels under the snow,

879
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: So she like digs down and then comes up and

880
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: snatches the rabbit from below.

881
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a wolf? Is that? Maybe wolves hunt and

882
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: then the wild they dig under and they come up

883
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: like like a sandwhorm go for powers.

884
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, somewhere around here, we get an interlude on

885
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: the demon, which is what people are yelling, so we're

886
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: cutting back to some other actions somewhere else where. The

887
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: editing is so rapid it's really hard to tell what

888
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: you're looking at, but we get like rapid shots of

889
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: things happening and then people yelling the demon. So there's

890
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: like something on fire and somebody yells the demon. One

891
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: we see one of the vampire orcs beating somebody up.

892
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: We see the guy in the conical hat and the

893
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: silver glam veil blasting a guy with white smoke out

894
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: of his hands, saying you have betrayed me, and the

895
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: guy is blasted and shown frozen against the bark of

896
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: a tree.

897
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that The only thing we're just supposed

898
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: to take from the scene, I assume, is just that

899
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: the demon and his forces are still out in the

900
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: world doing harm and perhaps and perhaps they're looking for something.

901
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: That's all we know.

902
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're causing problems. Yeah, but okay, we're about to

903
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: meet a couple of other major characters, master Lee and Wong,

904
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: and this is a kind of duo you might have

905
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: seen in adventure films before. Master Lee is a very

906
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: typical martial hero. He's a dashing and honorable, wandering swordsman,

907
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: you know, he's this kind of character is usually a

908
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: prince or some of their kind of high born and

909
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: then he's got his comedy sidekick, often a cowardly comedy sidekick.

910
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: Though with Wong, I don't know if you've got a

911
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: similar kind of thing. Rob. When we first meet Wong,

912
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: I interpreted him as being sort of hapless and cowardly

913
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: and not very able to take care of himself. But

914
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: then by the end of the movie, he's like he's

915
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 3: kicking butt.

916
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like we've seen this before in Taiwanese

917
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 2: action films. I think there was a character in Child

918
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: of Peach like this who was very much there for

919
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: comedic effect, but also really good. Did get to tear

920
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: it up in some of the action scenes.

921
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: I guess it's just that you don't get a sense

922
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: early on that this character will would be like that. Yeah,

923
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 3: but anyway, when we first meet them, they've been traveling

924
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: for days on an important mission, and Wong is tired

925
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: and is complaining. He has started complaining by this point,

926
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: but I don't know how early he started, so he

927
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: may have been complaining for a long time. He keeps

928
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: falling into holes in the ground and has to be

929
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: rescued over and over. Yeah, Wong and Master Lee catch

930
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: a rabbit for dinner, and warning this is this is

931
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: one scene where you can quite clearly see what looks

932
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: like an unsimulated killing of a rabbit with an arrow.

933
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: There are other scenes with rabbits where something might be

934
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: going on, but it's harder to tell.

935
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like sometimes wolf Woman may tear a rabbit's body

936
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: in half or and then eat it's bloody pieces. I'm

937
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: assuming she's not eating actual raw rabbit. But then there

938
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: are also scenes where she tears humans in half, and

939
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm I'm one hundred percent positive those are not real

940
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: humans being torn in half by wolf woman.

941
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: But if you're if you're looking for the place where

942
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: you would really want to fast forward, it's going to

943
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 3: be right around in here. When when Wong starts trying

944
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: to get after a rabbit.

945
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Right even though there's there's a fun gag there where

946
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: he's trying to throw a knife at the rabbit, and

947
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: then he gets over to the rabbit, he's like, there's

948
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: an arrow in this rabbit. I thought, I hit the

949
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: rabbit with my knife, And.

950
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

951
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: It's not worth watching the animal cruelty if you don't

952
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: see it.

953
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: But so anyway, they cook it up for dinner, and

954
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: then Master Lee plays his flute and unfortunately, here they

955
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: have an ill fated encounter with the wolf woman. She

956
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: sneaks up on them in their camp and attacks Wong,

957
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: and in reaction, oh no, they shoot her with an arrow.

958
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: That's not what we wanted. But once they realize she

959
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: is a human woman and not a wolf, they tried

960
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: to treat her with medicine, but then the rest of

961
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: the wolves attack their camp. They like jump over the

962
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: fire repeatedly. There is whiplash editing, until finally Master Lee

963
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 3: manages to kill one of the wolves in the fighting,

964
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: and oh no, it seems that the wolf he killed

965
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: may have been the woman's wolf mother. But the wolf

966
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: woman is unconscious with her wound. She doesn't know that

967
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: this happens initially, so they track the They fall unconscious

968
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 3: also for a bit, I think and I forget exactly

969
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: the samequence here, but they eventually track the wolf and

970
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: the wolf woman back to their cave. The woman attacks

971
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: them again at first, revealing that she has great powers,

972
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: like she's flying around on wires and stuff, and Wong

973
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: wants to fight back with lethal force, but Master Lee

974
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: restrains him. Clearly, Master Lee takes pity on the wolf woman,

975
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: and when she passes out from her injuries, they treat

976
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: her with medicine that they have among their supplies, and

977
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: Master Lee is like, I know what's going on here.

978
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: She is a creature of the wilderness. She is a

979
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: human raised by wolves, and thus she does not know

980
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: any human language and does not understand what death is.

981
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: So she goes on trying to feed to the mother

982
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: wolf even though it has died. And then there is

983
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: some time that passes, so we see wolf Lady, Lee

984
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: and Wong hanging out in the cave. There's some scene

985
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 3: I don't remember how this starts, but where the wolf

986
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: lady is biting him, is biting Lee on the hand,

987
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: and we see Wong lying to her and telling her

988
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: that the wolf mother is still alive somewhere like he

989
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: sort of has to act this out in charades, but

990
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: says she's off getting food somewhere. And then meanwhile we

991
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: get another cut back to civilization. We see in a

992
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: palace somewhere there is a king being attended by servants

993
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: and subjects. This king is named Master You, and they say, Master,

994
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: the Blue Devil commanded us to give him the Amulet

995
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: or he'll kill us all. We have to hurry up

996
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 3: and find a way to stop him. Another says Master,

997
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: terror is everywhere. Too many people have died already. And

998
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: then the subjects all say in unison, Master You, we

999
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: implore you to help us in this time of horror

1000
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 3: and death. And Master You is he's an older man

1001
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: with a stern face, angry eyebrows, and very solid beard,

1002
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: and he says that he understands the devil must be stopped,

1003
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: but he cannot do it without the aid of terrible magic.

1004
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: And there is only one thing on Earth that possesses

1005
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: enough power to feet this plague of demons, and that

1006
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: is the White Gensing Route. And then like smash cut

1007
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: before he even finishes saying the last word of his

1008
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: speech back to the cave.

1009
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: Now, is Master you Lee's dad?

1010
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, Yes, he has sent Lee on a journey

1011
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: to retrieve the great White Gensing Route because it is

1012
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: the only thing that can that they think can stop

1013
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: the demon from attacking them. Now here's something I wasn't

1014
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: sure about, is like Witch Devil is the blue Devil,

1015
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: because there's another devil they call the Red Devil. I

1016
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: think the one in the conical hat is the red Devil.

1017
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: So is the blue Devil a different one? I don't

1018
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: quite know.

1019
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: I was wondering if they it was just a mistake

1020
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: that like blue Devil and Red Devil are the same devil,

1021
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: because otherwise, who would blue devil be one of the

1022
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: spirit Halloween guys?

1023
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: Possibly the Witch, but they're saying he, so I think

1024
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: not her, So it could be one of the two

1025
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: Orc guys. I don't know either way.

1026
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: Team Devil, team Demon. Yeah, is what they're up against,

1027
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: and the only way to do it, the only way

1028
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: to defeat them is white gen Sying route, not red

1029
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: gen saying it's got to be white gen sing. Right.

1030
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: So back at the Cave of Wolves. How long have

1031
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: Lee and Wong been here now unclear, but they're kind

1032
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 3: of settled in and Lee wakes Wong up, telling him, Okay,

1033
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: it's time to move on. So, you know, we learned

1034
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: that Lee's father sent them on the quest for the

1035
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: great the gens En route. They've been looking for it,

1036
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: they can't find it. We find out it's also a

1037
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: thousand year gen sing route maybe it only appears once

1038
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: every thousand years, and they've been digging holes for it everywhere.

1039
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: So I think these are the holes that Wong was

1040
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: falling into earlier, with the holes that were digging looking

1041
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: for the root.

1042
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: That makes more sense than I had thought originally he

1043
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: was falling into a holes that she was digging out

1044
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: to catch rabbits.

1045
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: That could be the case also, Actually I don't know

1046
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 3: for sure. But so they go out digging again. They

1047
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: get attacked by wolves again. But if they are just

1048
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: cute little doggies like sniffing around at their feet, and

1049
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: they are saved by the wolf woman who calls off

1050
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: the pack. So the wolves obey her. And around here

1051
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 3: it starts to be quite obvious that Master Lee and

1052
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: the wolf Lady are interested in each other. They stare

1053
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: at each other. They got like laser beams of love

1054
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: coming out of their eyes.

1055
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how could they not fall in love?

1056
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then there's this weird scene where I don't

1057
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: know what's going on here. It's Master Lee starts adjusting

1058
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: the wolf woman's bones, like he sees that she's walking

1059
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: around with a hunched posture and a strange gait, like

1060
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: like there's something wrong with her spine. So he grabs

1061
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: her suddenly, and we see an animation of her bones,

1062
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: like her vertebrae realigning, and then she starts biting him,

1063
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: and Wong says, oh, no, she's biting him again. But

1064
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: after her bones are fixed, and she seems grateful. She's

1065
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: kind of sheepish about the biting, like her mouth is

1066
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: covered in blood, but she I think realizes that her

1067
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: bones have been fixed.

1068
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, I mean I just took the

1069
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: the bye. It's like I thought of my cat a lot.

1070
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, she's biting me again, Like it's like

1071
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: my relationship with the cat, a wild animal that lives

1072
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: in my house.

1073
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: But they, yeah, they mend, they mend this, like she

1074
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: the wolf Woman puts moss on Lee's hand and wraps

1075
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: it in a leather strap, and it's it's just clearly

1076
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: true love, uh Lee. Lee and Wong start trying to

1077
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: teach her how to talk and how to have manners.

1078
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: So they they say, you have a heart of gold,

1079
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: a spirit like spring mist, a face like a flower. Snowflower. Yes,

1080
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: Snowflower will be your name. And this name only half

1081
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: sticks for the rest of the movie.

1082
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it is used again. I think I

1083
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: can't remember as the dub or the subtitles also call

1084
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: her winter High Biscus or snow High Biscus or something,

1085
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: but Snowflower is what sticks.

1086
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: Right after they call her Snowflower. They're trying to teach her.

1087
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: They're trying to teach her grammar basically, and so she

1088
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: learns to say her own name and everybody else's. And

1089
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: there's this scene where she's arguing with Wong where she's

1090
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: like talking to Wong saying you're wolf woman, and he's saying, no,

1091
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: you're a wolf woman.

1092
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: I have forgotten any elemental Mandarin that I attempted to learn.

1093
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: But I have a feeling there might be a little

1094
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: bit more to this exchange in the original language, you know,

1095
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: like maybe it's a little more clever, and I mean

1096
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: it's still hokey, it's still played for laughs, but it

1097
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: might be it might play out a little bit differently

1098
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: in the native language.

1099
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: That seems quite likely. Yeah, we also get an education

1100
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: montage here, so you know, wolf woman is learning how

1101
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: to be a human. And one day Wolf Woman in

1102
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: Masterlea get to talking. She asks him if he's sad,

1103
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: and he says yeah. In the place he comes from,

1104
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: things are very dire. There is a wicked devil who

1105
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: rules over everything with extraordinary magic, killing many people, terrifying others.

1106
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: And Lee explains that he came to the mountain because

1107
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: he needs to find the great White gen sing route,

1108
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: the only thing in the world powerful enough to defeat

1109
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: the demon. But of course the gensing is too strong

1110
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: for a mortal human to consume. It would just wreck them.

1111
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: And then the wolf lady gets curious. She's like, what

1112
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: is this white gen sing like? And he describes it

1113
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: and she's like, oh, yeah, I ate that years ago

1114
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: and there won't be another for a thousand years. Whoops. Yeah,

1115
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: so Wong is mad, but Lee says, perhaps it's for

1116
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: the best, and so he's got to go home and

1117
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: tell his father that the route will not be found,

1118
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: and they sort of they convince wolf Woman to come

1119
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: with them, but first they have to admit to her

1120
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: that her wolf mother is dead. I think they've been

1121
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: lying to her about this the whole time so far,

1122
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: which is weird, messed up. And then the wolf woman

1123
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: is greatly saddened by this, and the grief over her

1124
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: dead wolf mother causes her to turn blonde suddenly, and

1125
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: like I think, hair grows down over the front of

1126
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: her face. And this is not the last time she

1127
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: will like activate her gensing powers through profound emotion and

1128
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 3: turn blonde.

1129
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it will happen again, and it's not permanent.

1130
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: When it happens here, I thought, maybe she's just gonna

1131
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: look like this the rest of the picture, but she

1132
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: does not.

1133
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: So Master Lee and Wong go down the mountain and

1134
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: arrive at the home of Lee's master, his own teacher,

1135
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: and this is Master Chew. Master Chew is your classic sage.

1136
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 3: He's dressed in all white, with long white hair, gigantic eyebrows,

1137
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: like a mintat long flowing mustache and facial hair. And

1138
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: they meet him and he's like, I know everything that happened.

1139
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: Don't tell your father about the wolf lady, because he

1140
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: will just accuse you of wasting your time chasing women

1141
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: instead of accomplishing your quest. And then he also gives

1142
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: him a gift. He gives him a little box and

1143
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: he says, the thing in this box, it will protect

1144
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: you as soon as you open it, and then Master

1145
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: Chou flies away.

1146
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: The other thing I like about Master Choo is that he,

1147
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: like you encounter this sort of performance and characterization a

1148
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: lot in like Hong Kong action films, with shot films

1149
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: and so forth, where it's clearly a much younger actor

1150
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: who's been dressed up to look like an old, sagely individual.

1151
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: So on one level, like it's obvious, but on the

1152
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: other level it kind of works because it's like this

1153
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: concept of like a Taoist immortal, Like yeah, it's like

1154
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: an old young in or young oldie, whichever way you

1155
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: want to look at it, Like, yeah, he's an old man,

1156
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: but he also there's something unnaturally young about him too,

1157
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: And I don't know how much of that was ultimately

1158
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: like accident of filmmaking, because you need this older individual

1159
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: to also do death defying stuff.

1160
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: Uns.

1161
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: However it comes together. It's kind of a staple of

1162
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: the genre that I like.

1163
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 4: There.

1164
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: Would you agree that there's almost something kind of impish

1165
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: or mischievous about Master Chew in the way that he

1166
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 3: just pops up to to with ease deliver information that

1167
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: other people had been struggling to learn or whatever. He

1168
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: just pops up and is like, hey, I know everything,

1169
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 3: or he just wanders into a scene and says, here's

1170
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: the real truth. Here's who the devil is.

1171
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he is. There is an infish quality to it.

1172
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: We also see inside the gift, the box that Lee

1173
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: is given, there is some kind of highly reflective mirror

1174
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: in there. It's is it kind of an amulet?

1175
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some sort of an amulet in there. So

1176
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: we're like, okay, magic guide.

1177
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: Him for later. Okay, So next we get a homecoming.

1178
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: Lee and Wong returned to Lee's father and they admit

1179
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: that they were unable to find the gen Sing. So

1180
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: there's got to be another way to stop the demon.

1181
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: Next thing is they commence a mission. There's like they're

1182
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: going to go raid the the demon hideout. I guess so.

1183
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: Like Lee, his father and a group of warriors, all

1184
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: dressed in different colors, trek into this lush green forest,

1185
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: which I get. Did you understand this to be the

1186
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: demon's camp?

1187
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: I guess so. Yeah, going into demon country.

1188
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: This was a very cool looking and dangerous feeling seen.

1189
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: We hear strange bird calls echoing through the trees, and

1190
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: at the camp there are the bodies of warriors hanging

1191
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: from the trees. But then it's a fake out because

1192
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: they think these are the demon's victims, but actually the

1193
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 3: bodies hanging there are the devils pretending to be corpses,

1194
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: and they attack.

1195
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: And from this week get into the first of many

1196
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: action sequences here, where one of the core objectives is

1197
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: to nail demons to trees with arrows and or swords.

1198
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: This happens a lot and it never gets old.

1199
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good stuff. And the frenzied editing the demons

1200
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: appear and disappear. They use trickery and magic. We see

1201
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: the Witch from the opening scene using this. She's wearing

1202
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: like a jeweled veil and she uses magic to knock

1203
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: Lee unconscious, and then later Lee awakes in the temple

1204
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 3: slash throne room from the beginning of the movie, and

1205
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: he now is the one affixed to the red cross.

1206
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: Uh oh, this doesn't look good for him.

1207
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: They mock him, and the gist is basically, you're a

1208
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: student of Master Chew, so you think you're really hot,

1209
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: but are you strong enough to defeat my fingernails? And

1210
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: the Demon Priest really likes laughing at nothing and then

1211
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: spraying people with dust from his sleeves.

1212
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's constantly.

1213
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the Demon Priest also wants to know what

1214
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: happened to the White Gensen route, and after torture, Lee

1215
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: tells him it was eaten by the Wolf Woman, and

1216
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: the demon is mad about this. He does not like

1217
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: this information.

1218
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: This exchange is great because he's like, somebody ate it?

1219
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: And he's like, somebody ate it? Who ate it?

1220
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, anyway, we got to get back to the

1221
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 3: wolf woman. What's she been up to? I missed the ye.

1222
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: She finally comes down out of the mountain and she

1223
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 3: is now using a fraying knotted rope like Indiana Jones

1224
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: uses a whip. Rob did you think that maybe this

1225
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 3: this rope slash whip was made out of rabbit pelts.

1226
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: That was the sense I got that this is like

1227
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: some sort of a super elaborate ninja whip weapon made

1228
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: out of rabbit pelts stitch together, but then with some

1229
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: sort of a four pronged animal claw situation going on

1230
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: at either end of said weapon.

1231
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she also has like bird claw feet bird

1232
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: feet claws that she uses as weapons. Yes, but she's

1233
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: using this whip to swing around through tree branches and

1234
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 3: fly through the forest. And then the Wolf Woman she

1235
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: walks into the Kingdom of the Demon. Now, first, she

1236
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: goes into a barn, finds a chicken, rips its head

1237
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: off and starts eating it raw. And the farmers catch

1238
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: her stealing the chicken, and they attack her with weapons,

1239
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: and she violently defends herself. So there's another action scene.

1240
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: We get a brainwashing scene with Master Lee. So the

1241
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: Demon Priest uses the Golden Needle to essentially brainwash Lee

1242
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: into making him one of them, to making him loyal

1243
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: to the demon. And now Lee goes around doing he's

1244
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: an enforcer for the Demon Priest. Basically, he's like going

1245
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: up to people's houses telling them to surrender to the

1246
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: devil power.

1247
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's decked out in red. Now cutting like a

1248
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: red veil covering half his face.

1249
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: So, oh no, Lee has become a bad guy. We

1250
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: even see him like he goes to people's houses and

1251
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: like beats them up. Yeah, there's one house he goes

1252
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: to and the demon priest shows up there when the

1253
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: guy won't submit, and he's like, you worm, you have

1254
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: the guts to stand up to me, And we get

1255
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: a sleeve blast of course, you know, he loves to

1256
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: shoot the smoke out of his sleeve. Elsewhere, we get

1257
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: a scene of the wolf Woman going to a rest stawt.

1258
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: This is one we've alluded to, I think a couple

1259
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: of times now. So she's wandering, she's in civilization now,

1260
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: and she's wandering through a city and she discovers that

1261
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: she likes the smell of food. So she goes into

1262
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: this restaurant. She doesn't know what to order, but she

1263
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: listens to what others at the table next to her say.

1264
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 3: And this is a large group of people and they

1265
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: end up ordering boiled eggs, half of a roasted chicken,

1266
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: and five jugs of wine. And so she just orders

1267
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: the same thing.

1268
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I'll have what they're happening and.

1269
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the guy's like, that's too much wine, but

1270
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 3: they bring it to her and she doesn't know how

1271
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 3: to use chopsticks, and she gets drunk, and drunken wolf

1272
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: Woman is a problem. She like freaks out, rips out

1273
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: her own hair and turns into the Gensing blonde. And

1274
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: then the gensing Blonde is like, is a violent, drunken

1275
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: mess and wrecks the restaurant and beats up all the

1276
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: guys who try to stop her.

1277
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a mess. And this this whole sequence is wonderful.

1278
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's played for laughs. It's ridiculous, and

1279
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: I loved every minute of it. The comedic sections of

1280
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: some of these older movies they don't necessarily always stand

1281
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: the test of time or translate all that well.

1282
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: But this is all perfect, Yes, But unfortunately she is

1283
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: eventually overpowered, I think because she's she's sort of on.

1284
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: She's not at her full potential because of the five

1285
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: jugs of wine. Right, So the townspeople capture her, They

1286
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: beat her with rods, they tie her in a sack,

1287
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 3: and then they dunk her up and down in the

1288
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: well in a sad song plays this one.

1289
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: This was another just outrageous moment for me though, because

1290
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: at least in the dub or the or the subtitles,

1291
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: they were like, throw her in the well, And I'm like,

1292
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: is this standard operating procedure? Like, there is a magical

1293
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: monster that has been arrested in your town, let us

1294
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: throw her into the town's primary water source. Yeah, that

1295
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem like the best use of your well water.

1296
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: I'm I mean, I'm assuming you're drinking that water or

1297
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 2: you're using it for for purposes around town. Let's not

1298
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: let's not drain and drown supernatural beings in that water

1299
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: just to be on the safe side.

1300
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm confused about the strategy of the town's people here.

1301
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: But then we get an intervention by a familiar face.

1302
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 3: Wong shows up. He just happens to be walking by,

1303
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 3: that's right, So he like goes and tries to help her,

1304
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 3: but ultimately they are both thrown down into the well,

1305
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: and then something there was a disconnect here. I didn't

1306
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 3: understand what happened. Somehow, Wong and the wolf woman are

1307
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: both washed out of the well into a fishing hole

1308
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,879
Speaker 3: where Master Chew is there fishing. Yeah, did you understand

1309
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: what that was?

1310
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: It kind of felt like a scene was missing there,

1311
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: But I guess basically it's like down the well in

1312
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: water flushed out to another body of water. I guess

1313
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 2: it's just it's all connected.

1314
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Speaker 3: So here is the scene where she meets with master

1315
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: Chew and Master Chew tells her about her history. He says,

1316
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: long ago, about twenty years ago, your father, the warrior

1317
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: of steel Spare, fell under the charms of the Red Devil.

1318
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: When he discovered the evils of the Devil, he took

1319
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: your mother and you and escaped. They could not outrun

1320
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: the Devil's men, and when they killed themselves, you used

1321
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: their warm. There was a typo in the subtitles here

1322
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: that said blow dough. I think that means blood to

1323
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: protect you. Then you were rescued by the White Wolf.

1324
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: All this has been predestined. And Master Chew also tells

1325
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: her that it is her destiny to fight back because

1326
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 3: the Red Devil has wronged her, has killed her parents,

1327
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 3: and he is the Wolf Woman's enemy, so she must

1328
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: get revenge against the devil. It is her destiny. And

1329
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: then there is some double take editing here. Suddenly we

1330
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: go straight from the scene where she's like being told

1331
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: this into combat scenes, just action where the Wolf Woman

1332
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: is riding on horseback and whipping devil warriors heads off

1333
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: with the knotted rope and they're like on a beach

1334
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 3: and then a desert and she's whipping the rope. Their

1335
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: heads are everywhere. She's also flying off of city walls

1336
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 3: and attacking the devil soldiers again with the whip. And

1337
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: we also see her wearing a different outfit, a very

1338
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: cool costume change where it almost suggests she is now

1339
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: fulfilling some kind of religious function.

1340
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like some sort of divine warrior garb all

1341
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: in white. So now she was like wolf Devil Woman,

1342
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: the white come back to avenge everyone.

1343
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, so wolf devil Woman not devil Wolf Woman

1344
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: and Wong they attack the devil's hide out in the woods,

1345
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: the one that Master Lee and his father and all

1346
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: their men attacked earlier. And there are whoa what to

1347
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: say about the scene. There's like flaming bats flying all around.

1348
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: Suddenly Wong does seem like a competent fighter. Here we

1349
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: see wolf Woman versus the vampire orc that was chasing

1350
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: her parents and she pins himTo a tree with swords,

1351
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 3: just general crazy wooshat action, and then we cut from

1352
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,879
Speaker 3: there to Wolf Woman and Wong trekking through the desert,

1353
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: and there's there are more fight scenes. Here's one that's

1354
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 3: a great payoff where we see Wolf Woman's wolf hunting

1355
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 3: skills that she used against rabbits used against the Devil warriors,

1356
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 3: where she's like digging tunnels and popping up from under

1357
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: the sand to yank them down and destroy them. Also,

1358
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: there's just the gore effects here. I think fans of

1359
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: the show will know. I'm not typically a gore hound.

1360
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: Having a lot of blood and guts and stuff in

1361
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: a movie is not something I usually get excited about,

1362
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: but in this case it is because it's like the

1363
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: way the Wolf Woman will like hit one of the

1364
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: Devil fighters. She'll hit them and then we just see

1365
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 3: like bloody severed limbs falling to the ground.

1366
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's almost just the right level of slightly over

1367
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: the top but unbelievable practical bloody violence in a picture

1368
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: can yeah take on its own reality, like this isn't

1369
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: in the Story of Ricky Territory, But like Story of

1370
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: Ricky is a film that I haven't seen it a

1371
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: long time, so I don't know if it would still

1372
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: hold up this way for me. But I remember enjoying

1373
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: it on that level, and that it's like everyone but

1374
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: the hero's body is made out of just paper mache

1375
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: and jello and just comes apart immediately and nothing can

1376
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: withstand our hero. And it's the same with Wolf Devil women.

1377
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 3: It's like those action figure I don't remember what they

1378
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: were called, but there were these action figures that had

1379
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: like a button you could press and all of their

1380
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: labels would just fall off of them at once.

1381
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeap, that's exactly what it's like with anyone who dares

1382
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 2: stand up against our Snowflower.

1383
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: So now Wolf Woman and Wong are suddenly in the

1384
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: Devil's temple. How'd they get there, I'm not sure, but

1385
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 3: they see Lee dressed in the garb of the Red Devil.

1386
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 3: He's got the you know, the red veil on and

1387
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 3: they're like, Lee, what happened to you? They want him back,

1388
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: but the witches and the devils say, no, you can't

1389
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: have him. He's with us. Now there's more fighting, just

1390
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: general great fight scenes. I can't recount every point here,

1391
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: but I love them. Somewhere in here, somebody says, huh,

1392
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: she fights like a wolf. But this seems to me

1393
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 3: using a whip and jumping a lot yep and the demon.

1394
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: The demon comes and tries to spray them with his

1395
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 3: sleeve dust, which of course is very very dangerous potent magic,

1396
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,480
Speaker 3: and they beg Lee for help, and this suddenly snaps

1397
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 3: Lee out of his trance or something, and he jumps

1398
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: in to save them, and then he flies away carrying

1399
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 3: Wolf Woman and Wong, and Wong has been sleeve sprayed

1400
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: real bad, but he's not dead. And then suddenly they're

1401
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: just somewhere else being treated by Master Chew. It all happens.

1402
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 3: There's a very loose spatial logic to what's going on here,

1403
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 3: and it happens so fast with so little explanation. But

1404
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 3: I think Rob correct me if I'm wrong. I think

1405
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: Lee explains that he was never actually like hypnotized by

1406
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: the Devil. He was just a spy learning how the

1407
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: Devil's palace works.

1408
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: That's right, because Master Choo's amulet protected him from being

1409
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: brainwashed by the Demon cult. So he's just been in

1410
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: deep cover the whole time, which, as he pointed out,

1411
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: includes beating the crap out of innocence in earlier scenes.

1412
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess he thinks it was worth it.

1413
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: Because he learned the secret of the demon, which is

1414
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: that there's this golden needle which has this great power.

1415
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 3: We saw it at the beginning being inserted into a

1416
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 3: doll to cause pain, and it can be used on

1417
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: the demons too, I guess. So we get a final

1418
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: showdown scene where Lee Wong and the Wolf Woman team up.

1419
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: They go back to the Red Devil Temple and they're like, uh,

1420
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: for there's some exchange. I'm afraid I'm getting this wrong,

1421
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: but they're like, we're here to kill you, and the

1422
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: Devil's like, you can't be serious, and they're like, no,

1423
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: that is correct, we're here to kill you.

1424
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: There's a great scene where they're they're, you know, they're

1425
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: attacking the d Dnomonic Temple here and in comes the

1426
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: lead demon priest and he said, or at least the

1427
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: Subtime'll say, and I think maybe the dub did this too.

1428
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: He says, look at me, fools, you know, I am

1429
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: I am doing it, does this huge intro number, and

1430
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: then yeah, it's just crazy fighting from there on out.

1431
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: There was this It was established earlier that our lead

1432
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 2: demon here has like frozen would be heroes in a

1433
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: state of undeath. Aout the temple and they can be

1434
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 2: brought back to life by removing their needles, and when

1435
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: they come back to life, they are essentially jungshi. They

1436
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: are the hopping vampires, so without all the rules of

1437
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: hopping vampires, but they are moving like hopping vampires in

1438
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: these sequences.

1439
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: Right, So there's that going on. There's just a lot

1440
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 3: of tremendous fighting in this final showdown. There's the Witch

1441
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: who's using her spider and cobweb powers, and then there's

1442
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 3: also a big twist slash identity revealed that is then

1443
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: double twisted and undermined if I understood correctly, yes, sort of,

1444
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 3: So like the Red Devil, they get his mask off

1445
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: and he reveals his identity and oh no, it is

1446
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 3: Master Lee's father, bump bum bum bum Bomb, and he's like,

1447
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: I wanted the White gen Sen route so that we

1448
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 3: could rule over the world, and you know, you and

1449
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: I as father and son, we could rule the galaxy

1450
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 3: his father and son. But then I think Master Chew

1451
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 3: walks in and is is like, no, he's not actually

1452
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 3: your father. He's just a shape shifter who can look

1453
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: like anyone.

1454
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: Bump Bump Bomb. But yeah, she just like strolls out

1455
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: from behind a pillar and tells everybody does.

1456
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so good. Yeah uh, and of course the

1457
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: good guys win in the end, and yeah, I loved

1458
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: Wolf Devil Woman.

1459
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: It kind of comes to an abrupt end though after

1460
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: that it's just kind of like, okay, forces of evil

1461
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: or defeat it and that's it. Everybody can go home.

1462
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not clear what's happening to Wolf Woman at

1463
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: the end, Like they defeat the devil. Oh, and Master

1464
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: Chew reveals that he was his evil brother, I think,

1465
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 3: and that he killed Lee's father and then turned to

1466
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: look like him. But anyway, they defeated the devil. Devil

1467
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: turns to ash. But we were told earlier by Master

1468
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 3: two that it would take all of Snowflower's magical ginsing

1469
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 3: strength to defeat the devil, and then after the conflict,

1470
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 3: she would wither and die. And now here we are,

1471
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: after the conflicts. They have defeated the Devil, and Wolf

1472
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 3: Woman is shown to be woozy and reeling, and Lee

1473
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: goes to kind of steady her, and I guess we're

1474
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 3: supposed to be in suspense, like, oh, is she gonna

1475
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: be okay? But we don't find out. They just cut

1476
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: to the end, so no resolution on what happens to

1477
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: Wolf Woman. I do wish there was a happy epilogue.

1478
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to see them going to restaurants again, all

1479
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: four of the heroes going to restaurants together.

1480
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: That would have been good, like see if she has

1481
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: really learned how to use chopsticks yet or if she's

1482
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: just gonna, you know, end up eating the fish with

1483
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: her hands again.

1484
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: More more Wolf Woman eating too many boiled eggs and

1485
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: drinking too much wine.

1486
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is Wolf Devil Woman. Quite a picture.

1487
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: Never a dull moment. This is not one that is

1488
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: a slog to watch by any stretch of the imagination.

1489
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: Hats off to Pearl Chang. I love it.

1490
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and close up

1491
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: this episode of Weird House Cinema, but we would love

1492
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: to hear from everyone out there. Are you a fan

1493
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: of Wolf Devil Woman. Do you have additional context to

1494
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: share regarding Wolf Devil Woman and Taiwanese cinema. Do you

1495
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: have a personal history with this film or did you

1496
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: watch it for the first time after hearing us bringing

1497
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: it bring it up? If so, maybe you have some

1498
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 2: thoughts as well. Anything's fair game, you know, if you

1499
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: want to talk about right into us, talk about past

1500
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: episodes of Weird House, cinema movies we covered, ages back,

1501
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: movies we just covered, as well as movies we might

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Speaker 2: potentially cover in the future. We're always open for suggestions

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Speaker 2: and those suggestions can come sometimes, you know, push things

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Speaker 2: up on our possible list of future episodes. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep it coming. We'd love to hear from you. And

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Speaker 2: if you do want to see what we've covered in

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Speaker 2: the past on the show, well, you can go over

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Speaker 2: to letterbox dot com. That's l E T T e

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Speaker 2: r box d dot com, which is in general just

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Speaker 2: a really cool sort of social media site for reviewing

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Speaker 2: films and tracking films and putting films on lists and

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Speaker 2: to watch list and all. While we are on there,

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Speaker 2: our username is weird House and we have a singular

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Speaker 2: list there of all the movies we've covered so far,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes there's a peak ahead what we're covering in

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Speaker 2: the next week or two.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Jjposway.

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Speaker 3: If you would like to get in touch with us

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Speaker 3: with feedback on this episode or any other to suggest

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Speaker 3: a topic for the future, or just to say hello.

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Speaker 3: You can email us at contact That's Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 3: Your Mind dot com.

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