WEBVTT - Busy Philipps Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped Indy off at school this morning, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>on the way home, I was like, I am so

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<v Speaker 1>happy right now, Like I'm so excited for the day

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm feeling all fulfilled, and I'm like, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I feeling so good? And then I realized

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<v Speaker 3>it's because it's raining. I love it. And have you

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<v Speaker 3>guys heard of seasonal effective disorder?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, the opposite, I have the opposite, right, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 4>have happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I get so happy too, and I have to Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you're the same way.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is I feel like we have so we

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<v Speaker 1>might just have a lot of mental health professional listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>people who do this for a living and can weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in on this. And I'm curious how you guys feel

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Is that like just intrinsic to me that

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<v Speaker 1>I just like cold weather and rain? Or is it

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<v Speaker 1>purely contextual? And if I lived in Seattle, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for like a month, I'd be miserable.

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<v Speaker 3>You think it's purely I did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever, you whatever, you constantly have all the time you want,

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<v Speaker 6>anytime it changes, it's good, right, So I feel the

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<v Speaker 6>same way where I hear it ray like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 6>like you wake up in the morning here you hear

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<v Speaker 6>the rain on your rat You're still curled up in bed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, this is going to be a magical day.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's also like if you know you're having a

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<v Speaker 7>storm that weekend, and then for just that weekend, you

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<v Speaker 7>change your plans. We're not going to go out, We're

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<v Speaker 7>going to stay in fires hot cocoa. Let's order in

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<v Speaker 7>some food every if every day for months on end,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to go out in the rain, work in

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<v Speaker 7>the rain, see your friends in the rain. Like your

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<v Speaker 7>clothes are always wet, You've got to take a hat

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<v Speaker 7>and your gloves.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like you would just be over it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But then if that's the case, which I pretty much agree,

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<v Speaker 1>then shouldn't the goal for all of us humans be

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<v Speaker 1>to find its variety and seasons?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like shouldn't we want to live places where they're not

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<v Speaker 1>too extreme?

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<v Speaker 3>But that's just.

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<v Speaker 1>And it never lasts more than like two months in

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<v Speaker 1>one road, right because what ends up happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like everyone in the East.

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<v Speaker 1>Coast wants to live in Florida or Phoenix or La

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<v Speaker 1>right because they're like especially as they get older.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that's where everyone retires.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the wrong impulse because then you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going somewhere where it's just always hot, always sunny.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was just in Connecticut last week, and Sue

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<v Speaker 6>was back in Massachusetts, and we always talk about, like

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<v Speaker 6>when we're back there for a very short amount of time,

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<v Speaker 6>we're like, man, you know, living here, I could definitely

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<v Speaker 6>leave LA and just come. And then we go for

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<v Speaker 6>this same week sometimes in August, and the bugs are

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<v Speaker 6>insane and the humidity is awful, and they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so I wouldn't want to do the summers. And then

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<v Speaker 6>we go in the winter and we're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>it's cold and awesome. And by day four, where all

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<v Speaker 6>the snow is gray and it's on everything and you're

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<v Speaker 6>stamping stuff out, you're like, well, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>be here in the winter either, So then you kind

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<v Speaker 6>of go that doesn't think it.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like spring and spring and spring like spring.

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<v Speaker 2>But the question we literally did this.

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<v Speaker 6>We went on and we were like trying to find

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<v Speaker 6>the place of the happy medium, and what we kind

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<v Speaker 6>of found is certain parts.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, of Colorado that are.

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<v Speaker 6>Not you're not in the mountains and you're not in

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<v Speaker 6>the lower parts of Colorado, but kind of in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle right there. You know, two towns of Colorado perfect

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<v Speaker 6>perfect weather all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's where we're just gonna have to congregate.

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<v Speaker 6>Is We're gonna have to find the one town in

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<v Speaker 6>Colorado that is the perfect weather.

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<v Speaker 2>And go there.

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<v Speaker 7>Is it wrong for me to want to cut this

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<v Speaker 7>from the podcast that I just I don't want everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>In Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>We could commune.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, I mean the pod meets commune, invite our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>we commune, you know, get it gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Danielle can be our cult leader.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not proposed. I'm not opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there gonna be weird sex stuff. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this sect.

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<v Speaker 3>There gonna be a division.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to stop anyone, you know, so like

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<v Speaker 5>I would, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>A great leader.

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<v Speaker 1>She she will allow us to form our own little sex.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course it would be the Yes, the Colorado Daniettes

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<v Speaker 6>will be on the news, will definitely make the news

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<v Speaker 6>as the Colorado is like this is a weird hippie commune.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it always ends well with cults. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary that'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Get twenty years from now, there'll be a retrospective that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like what went wrong exactly? Danielle got power hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>she did all the pangas.

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<v Speaker 3>She made us all court ballroom dancers. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, this is the best workout. This is what

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone your flexibility?

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<v Speaker 5>How is your flexibility?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us on Jive Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it all right? Colorado like, yeah, Boulder.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, we'll find the area. We'll start the colt.

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<v Speaker 7>What about Montana? I like Montana. Montana have some of that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think some of that. Yeah, we're also more off

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<v Speaker 6>the beaten path in Montana. I think we can get

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<v Speaker 6>away with more weird cult stuff. And yeah, although I've never.

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<v Speaker 2>Been Wow really no, it's one of like the three

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<v Speaker 2>states I've never been to. Never been Idaho either.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So we'll start looking at land.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need like probably like five hundred acres if

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<v Speaker 1>we're inviting all of our a lot of land, and

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<v Speaker 1>Montana than Colorado.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of Oh that's right, daniel is going to

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<v Speaker 6>need a bougie Colt we're gonna be We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>flowing all our money.

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<v Speaker 5>If you think this.

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<v Speaker 2>Col there's prices for weird sex stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Whatever you guys decide to gift me is is up

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<v Speaker 7>to you. I'm not going to ask for anything, but

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<v Speaker 7>as your leader, you may feel like you want to

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<v Speaker 7>gift me things.

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<v Speaker 5>But like there's no there's no like judgment about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Income would be nice to have.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, tithing is what we do here, and I

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<v Speaker 7>will share it with you, you know, I will. I

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<v Speaker 7>will like when I buy the private jet, we would

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<v Speaker 7>all be able to go on it.

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<v Speaker 6>It all starts like that, and then it's just you

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<v Speaker 6>taking the private jets somewhere, riders bearing bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>In the woods. I mean, it's going to get fat

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<v Speaker 2>because that's going to be your job.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I see that. I've just Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna be pointing and it's going to be us

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<v Speaker 2>doing her. And they'd be like you said there was

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<v Speaker 2>a private jet. She's like, there is. It's just not

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's for me to get out of here when

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<v Speaker 5>the bodies are found.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly excited.

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<v Speaker 3>God we got there from seasonal effective disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm happy, guys. Time to start a cult free

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<v Speaker 1>show chatter all right in the gutter.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fischal, I'm right.

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<v Speaker 2>Or strong, I'm Wilfredell.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, it's Danielle Fischle, podcaster, TV director, recent Dancing with

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<v Speaker 7>the Stars contestant, and mother of two. But to ninety

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<v Speaker 7>percent of the pop culture stratosphere, I am forever to

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<v Speaker 7>Panga Lawrence, a character I played from the ages twelve

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<v Speaker 7>to nineteen on the nineties family sitcom Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 7>I spent my entire teenage years on TV, inside millions

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<v Speaker 7>of homes and in front of a live studio audience.

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<v Speaker 7>From my first kiss to my first haircut, absolutely everything

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<v Speaker 7>was caught on camera. So now, thirty years later, it's

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<v Speaker 7>time to turn the tables. For my new podcast, teen

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<v Speaker 7>Beat with Danielle Fischel, I'll be sitting down with other

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<v Speaker 7>celebrities to unearth the details of their untelevised upbringings. Since

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<v Speaker 7>their first pimple wasn't broadcast as part of the TGIF

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<v Speaker 7>block of shame, the least they can do is share

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<v Speaker 7>it with me. Now, I'm asking guests to open their

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<v Speaker 7>childhood diaries and reveal embarrassing fashion choices, school crushes, dramatic

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<v Speaker 7>friend fallouts, using our nostalgic and awkward pasts as a

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<v Speaker 7>roadmap to understand who we are today, and you, as listeners,

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<v Speaker 7>will also get to share your stories with us. I

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<v Speaker 7>promise we won't laugh too much. So it's time to

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<v Speaker 7>make things fair. I gave you my childhood, It's time

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<v Speaker 7>I hear yours. Listen to teen Beat with Daniel Fishle

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<v Speaker 7>starting on January seventh on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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<v Speaker 7>or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 8>The most anticipated guest from season three is here the

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<v Speaker 8>Tray to My Charlotte. Kyle McGlaughlin joins me to relive

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<v Speaker 8>all of the magical Tray in Charlotte moments. He reveals

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<v Speaker 8>what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby.

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<v Speaker 9>Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was

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<v Speaker 9>literally I was like, this doesn't track for me at all.

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<v Speaker 8>When he found out Trey's shortcomings, I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Kind of excited to talk about. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 9>he's a guy spends time in Central Park. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>he's probably don't need to be some surgery stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 9>and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, and they said,

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<v Speaker 9>but he's impotent, and I was like, he's.

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<v Speaker 8>Impotent, and why he chose not to return to it?

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<v Speaker 9>Just like that, they came and presented an idea and

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, I get I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so kind of a one joke idea.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to miss this.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen to Are you a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 8>Apple podcast, Yes, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 7>It is a rare occurrence that we get offered a

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<v Speaker 7>podcast guest who perfectly captures what it felt like to

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<v Speaker 7>be a young actor in the wild and wonderful world

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<v Speaker 7>of the nineties and early two thousands. Whether it's the auditions,

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<v Speaker 7>the heartbreak, the friendships, the rapid fire fame.

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<v Speaker 5>Or the supposed big breaks that.

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<v Speaker 7>Were canceled during season one, they are all topics we

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<v Speaker 7>hope to address with honesty and humor on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 7>but very little of us have done it as well

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<v Speaker 7>or effortlessly as this week's guest. Before she became the

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<v Speaker 7>multi hyphen a force she is now, she was also

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<v Speaker 7>one of those kids hustling between sets, memorizing lines in

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<v Speaker 7>the car, and navigating an industry that didn't exactly hand

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<v Speaker 7>out survival guides from Freaks and Geeks to Dawson's Creek.

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<v Speaker 7>As a young adult, she was part of shows that

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<v Speaker 7>helped define a generation. She's one of those rare people

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<v Speaker 7>who can make you laugh, make you think, and make

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<v Speaker 7>you feel slightly better about the absolute chaos of your

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<v Speaker 7>own youth. Because she has been extremely open about hers,

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<v Speaker 7>we love a guest who's lived it, learned from it,

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<v Speaker 7>and isn't afraid to give you the whole story. So

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<v Speaker 7>please welcome to Pod meets World. Busy Phillips.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, guys, Hi, Hi, thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>I rilled.

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<v Speaker 7>I have to ask this question. How many people do

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<v Speaker 7>you tell to go watch the movie The Gift? Because

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<v Speaker 7>it is a criminally underrated masterpiece. I tell everyone about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in it. I know, I'm not even kidding. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think I've ever seen it. What Yeah? And in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>my god like my godson, my best friend's son, who's

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<v Speaker 4>uh nineteen, Now, I guess woa. He texted me not

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<v Speaker 4>long ago and he's like, WHOA, I'm watching the craziest

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<v Speaker 4>movie and.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so good in your yes, it's so.

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<v Speaker 4>Joel Edgerton right here wrote it and directed it.

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<v Speaker 7>It is an incredible movie. And I literally talk to

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<v Speaker 7>everybody about it.

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<v Speaker 5>At some point.

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<v Speaker 7>It comes up like underrated movies that people need to see.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got to see The Gift. Writer will walk us

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<v Speaker 5>through this, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a really great movie about a guy who was

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<v Speaker 7>bullied or not treated very well as a kid who

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<v Speaker 7>comes back into this kind of family's life.

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<v Speaker 4>And Hall and Jason Bateman right correct, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a dream team. It's a thriller, but that's also

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<v Speaker 4>got some comedy in it.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is. It's just good.

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<v Speaker 7>It's riveting, and it's criminally underrated and nobody knows about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm always like, you have to see The Gift.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway it I know, it feels like a real shame.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, but I think it was like one of

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<v Speaker 4>those times in my life where I had very small children.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know it was okay, I had like

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<v Speaker 4>like Cricket was still like a baby basically, and and

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<v Speaker 4>I was filming Cougartown I think at the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Time, and things going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I did and like, and so I couldn't go to

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<v Speaker 4>the premiere of it. And then, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about you guys as performers as actors, but I

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<v Speaker 4>do find it a little strange sometimes to like just

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sit down and watch myself. So I never

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<v Speaker 4>really saw the movie. Ye, but honestly, you're selling it

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to see I want everyone to watch it

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<v Speaker 7>this weekend. It's a rainy weekend in Los Angeles. Just

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<v Speaker 7>please put on put on the gift.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a twenty fifteen psychological thriller or a couple encounters

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<v Speaker 6>a figure from the husband's past who begins to torment

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<v Speaker 6>them with unsettling gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yefts.

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<v Speaker 4>And they had a really I do remember this because

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<v Speaker 4>a few people had reached out to me. They had

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<v Speaker 4>a really funny marketing campaign where they would they were

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<v Speaker 4>finding out I mean, these are twenty fifteen, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the early days of influencing, influencer marketing. But

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<v Speaker 4>they like found out weird things about actors and influencers

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<v Speaker 4>and sent them get creepy presents, yes, like based on

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<v Speaker 4>like things they couldn't have known. I actually remember I

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<v Speaker 4>remember the marketing campaign more because I feel like people

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<v Speaker 4>were reaching out to me like, what is this That is.

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<v Speaker 5>This thing that you guys are doing.

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<v Speaker 6>You should also not confuse it with the Gift from

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<v Speaker 6>two thousand with Kate Blanchette and Holmes.

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<v Speaker 4>Is in it? Kate Holmes, isn't that gift? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>And Hillary Swank?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow Holmes and Swank.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, all right, Well, I want to start now that

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<v Speaker 7>I've gotten that movie out of the way, I want

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<v Speaker 7>to start with your acting origin story. You were raised

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<v Speaker 7>in Arizona, right, You were a Scottsdale Chaparral grad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's correct, correct? Was he? You got it nailed?

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<v Speaker 7>It was Hollywood always in your sights growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>Were you a theater kid? Yeah, I it at all.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like, from the time when I was in

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<v Speaker 4>elementary school wanted to I was watching you guys, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why am I not there yet? And

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<v Speaker 4>my mom was like, because busy, I'm not giving up

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<v Speaker 4>my life for you, and I was like, okay, fair, fair,

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<v Speaker 4>Now that I have she was a real estate agent,

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<v Speaker 4>my dad's an engineer. I mean, they're retired now, but

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<v Speaker 4>I really relate to this deeply now because my own

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen year old daughter has done some acting, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>just nothing worse than being a parent on set.

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<v Speaker 7>I know, I know Rider is also starting to experience

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<v Speaker 7>this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, writer, how old is.

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<v Speaker 3>Your He's only ten, he's turning eleven. So far, he's

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<v Speaker 3>only done voiceover. That's like all we're allowing him to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's mostly I mean since his voiceover,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that bad, but it's pretty boring, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so hard to keep your mouth shut and you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to like go and be like the person

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody cares about, nobody wants on the set, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to sort of be like, yep, here

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I guess I'll just read my book and

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<v Speaker 1>hope my kid is well directed because I know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like there have been times when somebody's not

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<v Speaker 1>great at giving him notes and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in and be liked me.

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<v Speaker 4>Just wait, I fully did that this summer. I like

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<v Speaker 4>actually was like told the director what to say to

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<v Speaker 4>her to like so funny, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>You know her better than they do. You know, what's

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<v Speaker 7>going to get something out of her more than they will.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I just felt like I could just see it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw her the wheels turning in her brain,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I know exactly what you need

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<v Speaker 4>to say to her to get her to do what

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<v Speaker 4>you need her to do. Yeah, but it is wild.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, that was so my mom was like, no, rightfully,

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<v Speaker 4>So your parents were all saints, I imagine, and uh

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<v Speaker 4>or I don't know, I don't I actually no idea,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were also I mean, I read Jeanett McCarty's book, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know what I mean. We didn't have any of that

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<v Speaker 7>experience on this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is fantastic. But uh, I was always planning to

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<v Speaker 4>go to Los Angeles for college because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>start working as soon as I could. And in my

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<v Speaker 4>junior and senior year of high school in Arizona, I

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<v Speaker 4>like got a local agent and I got a local

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<v Speaker 4>commercial and I did this Mattel Toy fair job as

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<v Speaker 4>a barbie, a live barbie, which was like an acting

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<v Speaker 4>job in quotation marks and.

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of barbie were you?

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<v Speaker 4>I was the Clueless doll from the TV show, The

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<v Speaker 4>Clueless TV show that was based on the movie.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, that starting show was on for a period

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<v Speaker 7>of time.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Correct, and I was in high school when I heard,

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<v Speaker 4>like on you know, the radio, the morning news radio,

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<v Speaker 4>that they were casting a clueless TV show, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, I have to be share. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>obviously it was like already cast because I'm in Arizona

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<v Speaker 4>listening to it on the news. And that was what

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<v Speaker 4>like forced me or what I how I convinced my

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<v Speaker 4>mom that I needed to get a local agent because

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I want to audition for the Clueless

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<v Speaker 4>TV show, which obviously it was already cast. But then

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<v Speaker 4>I got this job being the Clueless doll for Mattel

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<v Speaker 4>the next year, and honestly the I met an actress

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<v Speaker 4>from LA who was a Barbie girl as well. Her

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<v Speaker 4>name is Lisa Guerrero, and she introduced me. When I

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<v Speaker 4>moved to LA and I went to Loyal Marymunt University,

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<v Speaker 4>she introduced me to the woman that became my first manager.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh signed me and then like got my agents and

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<v Speaker 4>then it just was like very quick after.

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<v Speaker 2>That, did you slide? Did you slide down the LMU letters?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course?

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<v Speaker 6>That's I got into LMU and was going to go

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<v Speaker 6>and so I spent like a week there to figure

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<v Speaker 6>out what I was going to do, and everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 6>you gotta slide down the letters. So they brought everybody

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<v Speaker 6>to the LMU letters and slid down the letters.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah wait what No, I didn't know about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have done that.

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<v Speaker 5>You can still do it, maybe, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I was too busy working, never too old to slide

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<v Speaker 7>down the lula.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait when you went to LMU, were you going for

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<v Speaker 1>acting film or were you doing a backup option?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was going for like I was the theater

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<v Speaker 4>major and an English minor. But I was really sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like Laser, focused on getting an agent as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as I could and trying to start working. And so

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<v Speaker 4>the summer after my freshman year, I went and did

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<v Speaker 4>a drama program in England and at the Oxford School

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<v Speaker 4>of Drama, Like there's summer program. It was really fun

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<v Speaker 4>and then, uh, you know who did it? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>know the actor Zach knighton do you know Happy Endings?

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<v Speaker 4>You know that show?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 4>On that show. Anyway, he and I were there together

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<v Speaker 4>in England. And then I came back and Lorraine, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I went and auditioned for agents and I got, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a small agency picked picked me up, and then that's

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<v Speaker 4>spring that pilot season. I got Freaks and Geeks.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I was going to ask you. How quickly then,

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<v Speaker 7>did you read for Freaks and Geeks?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it was right away, Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 4>right away.

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<v Speaker 5>What was that audition process?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was really fast?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you know anything about like did you know of

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<v Speaker 7>jud Apatow or Paul Figue No, no, because they I

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<v Speaker 7>mean Jud had done Larry Sanders, but I did.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't have HBO growing up, so I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know really what it was. And I think Paul

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<v Speaker 4>had just written the movie Heavyweights at the time, but

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<v Speaker 4>like I didn't, I didn't know what that movie was.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had gone in for a general meeting at

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<v Speaker 4>NBC and Grace Wu, who's now I believe the head

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<v Speaker 4>of casting for all of NBC UH was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the associate casting people at NBC, and she really was

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<v Speaker 4>lovely to me and liked me a lot. In my

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<v Speaker 4>general meeting and she's like, you know, we have this pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you the script. You should read it, but

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<v Speaker 4>you should definitely go in for it. Alison Jones is

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<v Speaker 4>casting it. It's called Freaks and Geeks, and I remember,

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<v Speaker 4>like literally remember her pulling the script out and handing

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<v Speaker 4>it to me. And I had auditioned for Roswell. That

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<v Speaker 4>was the same season as Roswell that my college boyfriend

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<v Speaker 4>Colin Hanks got cast on Wow. So I had auditioned

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<v Speaker 4>for Alison for Roswell, and so she brought me right

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<v Speaker 4>in there was I didn't pre read. You know, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're listening to this, I'm sure you know, but

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<v Speaker 4>a preread is where you read just for the casting director. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I got to just go straight to the producers.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was auditioning for Lindsay Weir for the main

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<v Speaker 4>girl because kim Kelly wasn't a character yet in the pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did my read and then I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was I think it was Paul that was like, hey, busy,

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<v Speaker 4>we have this other part. Would you take a look

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<v Speaker 4>at it and come back in and give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, you know, it was like one of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>I went outside for ten minutes and then went back

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<v Speaker 4>in and did my Kim Kelly audition, which is in

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<v Speaker 4>the DVD extras if anybody has them, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 4>from that I was cast on the show because they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't test that part. I didn't have to screen test

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<v Speaker 4>for that part because it was initially just a guest

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<v Speaker 4>star for the for the pilot, which is also why

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in the opening credits. But they added me

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<v Speaker 4>as a series regular after the show got picked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you can watch your audition from yea from

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<v Speaker 1>back then. How do you feel about it now when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it back? Are you like, oh, that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you like what were they thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's so funny because I did a podcast like

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<v Speaker 4>a year and a half ago and they played it

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<v Speaker 4>for me like I hadn't watched it, and so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I hadn't watched it in so long and they played

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<v Speaker 4>it for me, and I mean, it's really cute. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>you die when you look at when you watch yourselves?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't like it. I don't love it. You

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<v Speaker 7>don't want, you know, not really.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, I love watching myself. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>watching both of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Difference.

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<v Speaker 7>That sounds about right. So did you not have to

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<v Speaker 7>chemistry test with everyone? Like as the cast was rounding

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 7>out there was none of that. You basically just auditioned

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 7>for the producers went out for ten minutes, came back

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 7>read for Kim Kelly and then that was it.

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<v Speaker 4>You had the job, and that was it. They to

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<v Speaker 4>be the job. But what was crazy is that Linda

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Cardelini and Linda Cardlini and I have the same birthday,

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 4>but she is four years older than me, and she was,

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I guess technically like on a break from LMU because

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 4>she had been working so much. But so she was

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 4>essentially like a senior when I was a freshman, but

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 4>she wasn't go actively going to school, but she was around,

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 4>like I knew because the theater department, like everybody knew her.

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 4>She was kind of like the star of the theater department.

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 4>And so I was already friends with her. And I

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 4>ran into her at LAX when I was picking up

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 4>my boyfriend Colin Hanks and she was picking up her roommate.

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<v Speaker 4>And remember when you were young and you had to

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 4>pick people up at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well now you're married, I still have to.

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 7>Still doesn't he doesn't do the uber situation. He just

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 7>goes and picks people up.

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, you're maybe a good person.

0:24:58.480 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I like to think.

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<v Speaker 6>So I love my wife too, She's pretty cool. So yeah,

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 6>I'd rather go pick her up.

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's rad. Well anyway, I ran into her

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 4>and she had just gotten the part, and I had

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 4>been offered the part of Kim Kelly, and my agents

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 4>at the time were a little bit like, we don't

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 4>know if you should do it because it's just a

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 4>guest star and it's early in pilot season and we

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're going to get a Silens regular like

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 4>a pilot you know, it's like one of those things

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 4>where and I really didn't know what to do. But

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 4>running into Linda, she was like, dude, I just got it,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 4>and jud told me that you're going to be Kim Kelly.

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 4>They want you for Kim Kelly. You go, you gotta

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 4>do it. And it just was like as soon as

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 4>I saw her and found that out, I was like, oh,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 4>well that obviously this is what I'm doing. Because also

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I was so nervous to do my first actual real

0:25:55.680 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 4>job and to have someone like Linda with next to

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 4>me or you know, sort of showing me the ropes.

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she taught me everything from like what to

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.719
<v Speaker 4>order at craft services to like how to make your

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 4>trailer really how to turn on the heat and your

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 4>trailer yes, and then like all the on camera stuff

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Like she's like, I like to pick a place to

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 4>look like, I didn't know, you don't know any of

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 4>that stuff. Yeah right, I mean you guys were kids

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 4>who taught you our directors.

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, on set we were so young, it was like, yeah,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>you had to just be told like open to camera,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you know in multicam, like that whole idea of like

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>pulling your shoulders and standing on your.

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Lap, do all that kind of stuff.

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, definitely, But wait, so you hadn't taken any

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like on camera acting classes.

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 3>It was all theater stuff up until then.

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they didn't even like I don't even think that

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 4>they kind of I don't think they offered that at LMA,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't think that was in anything. And I

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 4>mean I didn't have a ton of I worked at

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 4>California Pizza Kitchen. I didn't like have a ton of money.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 4>So I wasn't like paying to do those classes. You

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 4>would see, you know, the film acting or you know

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 4>acting for the camera classes. You would like see you

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 4>know whatever advertised all over town. Right, So I don't.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 4>I just didn't. And I was a kid. I mean

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like nineteen, I got Yeah, I was nineteen.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious which CPK you worked at?

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Marina del Ray, honey.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 6>That's so when my brother moved out to Los Angeles

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 6>for a year back in nineteen eighty something, that's.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Where he worked.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 6>We really the marina run the Marina Delway CPK, and

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 6>he left with a bunch of recipes and we still

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 6>make the bar. I have the barbecue chicken pizza two

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 6>nights ago at our house.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 5>Who has the buttercake recipe? Do they do?

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 4>They offer that?

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Good question, we have we can find it.

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Okay, what's the buttercake? What is that from? CPK?

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so good.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 7>I get it every year on my birthday and Mother's Day. Wow,

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 7>sometimes when it's.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Just a Wednesday and you might get it later today.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And now that we're talking about it, and I just.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Tell you, I really love that. You guys like Alforni

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 4>you Pizza Kitchen.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 5>It's one of my favorite restaurants.

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I could do without it. Me too. Chicken and pizza

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>not right.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 6>Sure, don't eat that, don't don't get you tell your

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 6>pizza so don't even start talking to me.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 7>Is incredible, the best, the best thing ever. When they

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 7>took it away for a while used to make a

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 7>b L T pizza which is really also came back pizzo,

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 7>the Kung Pou spaghetti with shrimp.

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Good franking food, making great.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Salads to salad.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Good salads.

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, chicken salad with no tomatoes add avocado.

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I'm extra tomatoes.

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 5>I could do without tomatoes. Take them away. I'll get you.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>There's good food. So writers not interested?

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, welcome back to PODK.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, I hate that I live in New York

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 4>now and there's no California pea to kitchen here. And

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.239
<v Speaker 4>I did an ad campaign for them last year, and

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I because they turned forty last year, which is crazy.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Can you go belly it?

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a good question.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean in the freezer section.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>So true.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>But I was trying to convince them to do a

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>pop up in New York and they were like, I

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 4>mean we're I think we're okay. I was like, okay,

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 4>we're good.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 7>We're good on that thing. So we're not going to

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 7>go to the market where nobody knows who we are.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 7>That's not that's not a great idea. Did you know

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 7>how good Freaks and Geeks was while you were making it?

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think we did. I'm not in the pilot,

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 4>not during the pilot, I don't know what, because I

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>was also just like I have no idea what's happening,

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. But I think once we started,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 4>once I saw the pilot, I was like, oh, wow,

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 4>this is a thing, Like this is real, and not

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 4>only that, like really good, uh because I think tonally

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I sort of just didn't even on or stand what

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 4>it was. I mean talk about it was ahead of

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 4>its time, right, So so I think it was really

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 4>hard even for me. But I was a huge my

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 4>so called life fan, and so it like sort of

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 4>reminded me of that, but funnier and anyway, Yeah, I

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 4>think once we started filming the series, we all had

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 4>this understanding that what we were doing was really great.

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 4>And you know then also, like I said, my college

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 4>boyfriend Colin Hanks was on Roswell and they were filming basically, well,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 4>they were filming at Paramount across the street from we

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>were at Raleigh Studios in Hollywood, So it was kind

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>of like perfect fun and yeah, you know, like all

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>those kids and our cast would hang out and it

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 4>was just really great.

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's definitely become one of the seminal shows of

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 7>its generation. It's but it's an infamous first season cancelation,

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 7>winning an EM once it was already off the air,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 7>but sparked the careers of not only You, seth Rogen,

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 7>Jason Siegel, John Francis Day, Martin Starr. It's a stacked

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 7>launching pad. But yeah, at the time that it then

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 7>didn't take off, was that absolutely devastating?

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yeah, it was crazy and I just felt like,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 4>now what right?

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 5>You're like that was incredible? How did that not go?

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>You can only go downhill from there? Is what you

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>think when you leave, Like, what do I do now?

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 4>But I think that's right. I mean I think that's right.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Like we I really was. So my world was rocked.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, But within the industry it was beloved, right,

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like everyone knew that it was a good

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>show with a stacked cast.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 3>You didn't feel that you didn't eventually.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Feel that didn't Yes, but that didn't happen for years. Wow, right,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Like this was nineteen ninety nine.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 6>It does have a special place in Hollywood where it's

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 6>it's one of those shows like like Leslie Nielsen's Original

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 6>Police Squad where it's it was so ahead of its

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 6>time that you do six, eight, ten episodes and then

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 6>people find it years later and they go, what the hell,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 6>how is this not the biggest thing on TV? And

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 6>so yeah, there's there's what I'm trying to think, four

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 6>or five shows in history of television.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I knew about it back then, Like

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was when it was happening. There

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>was conversation when was Linda on our show in relation

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to After?

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>It was after four?

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 5>It was four.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 4>Because that was it was a big deal at LMU

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 4>that she was on. I totally forgot about this, Like

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 4>we all watched it. This was a huge deal. Okay,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 4>so she did after Wow.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>So that so you guys were doing ninety eight, ninety

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 3>nine then were it was? It was.

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 4>Ninety nine pilot season, and then it was ninety nine,

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 4>two thousand, canceling two thousand. We did nineteen episodes.

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 9>Wow.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So she had already broken up Corey into Panga by

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>that point.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she was already the villain.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 5>She was already a villain.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 7>It, by the way, won an Emmy for Outstanding Casting

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 7>for a Comedy.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 3>S Oh yeah, Alison Y. Yeah, she's a legend, man.

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean Alison Jones incredible.

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean she cast the original pilot for Boyby World too,

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>so she did yeah, yeah, which means she only she

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>cast me in this call and the only one. But yeah,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>because she she did the pilot and then I don't

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even really remember meeting her, but

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that's who I auditioned for the first time. And then yeah,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>so she put the original pilot together of Boybe World

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and then recast and then you know, changed as we went.

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, she's amazing. Yeah, look at you look

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>at her work and you're like, oh, she like literally

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>found so many people before they were anybody, and she

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>always goes for the interesting choice and the good actor.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 3>It's yeh, she's amazing.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's very she's very cool. Yeah.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 6>Well that was the other thing about Freaks and Keys

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 6>at the time is we're we're in the late nineties

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 6>early aughts at this point, so you're still in beautiful

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 6>teenage shows. It was all gorgeous people standing there and

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 6>and geeks as you know, obviously Linda's beautiful, busy, beautiful,

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.239
<v Speaker 6>but they were they came off as real. It was

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 6>like they were they were casting for real people as

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 6>opposed to just it's soap opera actors but that can

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 6>hit their marks for a sitcom, it was freaking and

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 6>Geeks was like, can we can we cast some real

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 6>people that can act and are funny and amazing and

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 6>you want to watch? And that was that kind of

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 6>started a whole new trend in television in the early odds.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 6>It got away from from being like, who's who's the

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 6>best looking guy.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>And girl we can put on this show? It was like,

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>who's who's the best?

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Part? Well, I think it's also was like that era

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 4>of teen shows. It was like right when Dawson's Creek

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 4>had come out, you know, it was like a year

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 4>and a half a year or two after that, so

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 4>it was like Felicity and Dawson's Creek and the WBU

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 4>was really like having its moment right and they were

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 4>casting the most beautiful people objectively and not for nothing.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 4>I actually I think that in that world, like I

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 4>didn't I wasn't that. I did not I wasn't hot

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 4>like that, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 4>a hot teen. I'm actually like a super hot forty

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 4>woman in her forties. But like, but like I wasn't

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>I really wasn't a hot. I wasn't hot as a teenager.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I was like weird and a little I don't know

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 4>like and I wasn't like that era was very specific

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 4>of what the beauty was, do you know what I'm saying,

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 4>and that I just did not I didn't really fit

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 4>into it. I remember reading a review of Freaks and

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Geeks that was like, you won't find any beautiful people here,

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 4>and I was a little bit like, well, I mean, okay,

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's.

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>All right right.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wilfred Dell and Sabrina Bryan.

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 6>From the podcast Magical Rewind, and we have a very

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 6>special guest on this week episode. He's the mastermind behind

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 6>some of your favorite movies like Hocus Pocus, Newsy's The Descendants,

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 6>and of course.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 2>High School Musical.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 6>Yes, it is the one and only a living legend

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 6>director Kenny or Tega.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 10>We sit down with Kenny to talk about his incredible

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 10>career and the legacy he's created with his choreography and films.

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>You seriously will not want to miss this one.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 10>Listen to Magical Rewind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 10>or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 7>Well, soon after Freaks and Geeks, you find yourself cast

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 7>on another show every young actor wished they were on,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 7>including all of us on the Zoom And that's Dawson's Creek.

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 7>Before you join the cast in season five, had you

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 7>been watching it like everyone else?

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 4>Now, I missed it. It wasn't me. It wasn't for me.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Waits Actually, I still have never watched.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's so funny. You've never seen anything you've been in.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 4>I know. I mean that's not necessarily true. I definitely

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 4>have watched things I've been at, but like, yeah, I

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 4>just wasn't. I wasn't. There were people in my college,

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 4>like freshman year who definitely watched Dawson's every week one

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. I did watch Felicity. I was a Felicity girl.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 4>I loved that show and then became friends with Scott

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Speedman years later, and it always cracks me up. It

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 4>still cracks me up. He's like, I just love him,

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, like, I don't know what else did I watch?

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I was watching.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, sometimes joining a cast in season five can be

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 7>a little daunting. Everybody's already super close and everyone has

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 7>their own way of doing things. Did you feel welcome

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 7>right off the bat in that cast, on that set.

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I mean I think it's like very I

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.240
<v Speaker 4>think being a guest star on any long running show

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 4>coming in for one episode is like the scariest thing.

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 4>I was added to the cast. I had to test.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 4>I had to do like a full studio network test

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 4>for it, and they were adding me, and they I

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 4>think they tested Chad Michael Murray for he was sort

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 4>of recurring that year. I don't know, it was. Yeah,

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 4>it was like intimidating also because it wasn't being filmed

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 4>in LA. It was in Wilmington, North Carolina, So I

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 4>basically had to like relocate right to a place you're

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 4>not familiar with at all, and I didn't know where

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 4>to live, and like it was Yeah, it was hard.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 4>It was and I was twenty one, Like it was

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 4>very It was tricky, and it was less that like

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 4>they were all so close at that point. They were

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 4>all just like this was the job, and they all

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>had their own lives, you know, that were established, like

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 4>really well established. But Michelle and I met the first

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 4>person I met when I got to town. Everybody was

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 4>put up in the same small, little boutique hotel in Wilmington.

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 4>It was called literally the Woman Tonian. I know, I

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it still is, but that's what it was.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 4>And uh, James Vanderbeek was staying there because he like

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 4>something had happened with his house or he was something.

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't remember what happened, but like

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 4>some construction or something, and he couldn't move in yet.

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 4>And so I met him first, and he was so nice,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, I've heard the best things about you.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I heard your audition was incredible. Like, he was so nice.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 4>And then Michelle was across the street at this little

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>like stop and go place, picking up like gatorade and

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 4>fig Newton's and she walked across the street. Well, I

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 4>love fig Newton's. We used, Michelle and I still joke that,

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 4>like we thought that fig Newton's were health food, right,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 4>I know, the cookies they're cooking, they're absolutely a dessert.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was like like an energy bar.

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 6>It is, yeah, and the more you eat, the healthier

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 6>they get.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Great.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that that's.

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>The thing that people don't know about Fig notes fig

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>is in the title.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 5>I could eat a whole sleeve exactly.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>It's figs and.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Pizza is amazing.

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And again, do you have cream cheese, cream cheese and figure

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 1>in the pineapple guy?

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't get to throw shade at other people's pizza.

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 4>That's like I definitely agree. But yeah, and so then

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 4>she and I met and then like sort of instantly

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 4>fell in love. And we had had mutual friends tell

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 4>us that we would get along, so we were already

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 4>sort of set up to be friends like each other.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, Well you all recently reunited recently on Broadway

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 7>to raise money for the f cancer charity in James

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 7>Vanderbeek's name. Did anything surprise you about jumping back into

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 7>your character almost twenty five years later?

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't play my character because I wasn't because

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 4>we did we did a stage reading of the pilot,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 4>and so like Kur Smith and Meredith Monroe and myself,

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 4>and I'm trying to think if there was anyone else

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 4>we weren't in the pilot, and all had been added

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 4>to the cast at various points after. So Michelle and I,

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, when James was diagnosed with cancer, it was

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 4>really you know, it was horrible, and he's got this

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 4>beautiful family, and you know, we all reached out to

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 4>him and Michelle, Michelle and Katie and I like sent

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 4>them some stuff like this, you know, I think it

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 4>was it like a year ago or something. And then

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 4>right after the New year, Michelle was just like, we

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 4>should do something. We just should do something. And so

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 4>she and I started to think about, like, well, what

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 4>would a live show be and what could we even do?

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I do so many like live stage

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 4>shows of things that like I used to do at

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Largo all the time in LA and the Bellhouse here

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 4>in New York, and I took my podcast out. I'm like,

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 4>we can do something on a stage. Her husband, Thomas Cale,

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Tommy Cale, is the director of Hamilton, so we knew

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 4>that that theater would probably be open to helping us out.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 4>The Richard Rogers, they were so lovely and so we

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 4>started to put this thing together. We called Katie and

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 4>she came over and we like, we're like, what if

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 4>we did the pilot. We should re read the pilot.

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 4>We could do a stage tading where we could do

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 4>like a night of song. Like we we're just trying

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 4>to like figure out some yeah, but like getting everyone

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 4>it was just so important that they that everyone be

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 4>there and and getting everyone's schedules lined up was a

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 4>little tricky sure, And then James got very sick and

0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 4>was in the hospital and couldn't make the trip to

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 4>come be on stage and do it with us, and

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 4>that was really really hard and sad. But his family came,

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 4>all of his kids came, Kimberly, his wife came, and

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 4>we got to spend a lot of time with them,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 4>and it was just sort of incredible for us all

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 4>to be back in the same room together. We haven't

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 4>done that since the show wrapped, so it's been whatever,

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty years.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twenty five or five years almost?

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, okay, great twenty five. I believe you.

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 10>Hi.

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 11>It's Jenny Garth, host of the I Choose Me podcast.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 11>This week, I'm so excited to welcome my friend Gabrielle

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 11>carteris the Andrea Zuckerman from Beverly Hills nine o.

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 5>Two on Oh to the pod.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 4>We're choosing to get real iplied to the networks about

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 4>my age and contracts. They never would have hired me

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 4>if they had known my age. We're choosing to be honest.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 4>She looked at me and she said, this business is

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 4>about the mask, which you have neither of, and we're

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 4>choosing to get nostalgic.

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 12>Listen to I Choose Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 12>podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 7>People always ask us about that final episode of Boy

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 7>Meets World where we were crying in real life, and

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 7>it's right there on the screen as our characters. And

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 7>the final Dawson's Creek episode is also an emotional ride.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 7>What was it like that day on set saying goodbye

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 7>to a show that basically raised almost an entire cast.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's crazy because I wasn't in the two part No,

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't in the two part finale, even though I

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 4>had been on the show for those two years leading

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 4>up to it. Kevin Williamson came back to write the finale,

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 4>and I mean, I got paid for her, guys, right,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 4>But what I heard at the time was Kevin was like,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't know this character. I didn't create her, so

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>she's not going to be in the finale. And I was.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I I wrote about it in my book. I was

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 4>like pretty devastated, Like I was pretty sad, and I left.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 4>I just left. I left Wilmington. I was like, well

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 4>you guys bye, Yeah, and so I wasn't there. Uh,

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 4>And then I did have to go back for the

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 4>like big they had, like this big finale party and

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 4>like photo shoot and this whole thing, and like they

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 4>were like, you actually contracted, you gotta go back for it.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, Okay, I guess. So I did

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 4>go back for like the finale party, but yeah, like

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 4>I just wasn't I wasn't around. And then the craziest

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 4>thing happened. I haven't like I'm not gonna say I

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 4>like held on to it, but it was a thing

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 4>that sure really hurt my feelings and I felt like

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 4>I had given two seasons of my life to this show.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:08.439
<v Speaker 4>People really loved my character. I really, you know, gave

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 4>up like a big part of my life to be

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>in Wilmington. Not that like, you know, obviously I needed

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 4>the job, but yeah, I just was sad for my

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 4>character too. I'm like, she just gets relegated to like

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 4>one weird one.

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:24.320
<v Speaker 5>I feel not valued and yeah.

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Right, And when we were doing this reading which I

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 4>got to play this is so wild but also just

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 4>speaks to the time. I don't know if you guys

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 4>had any storylines in boy Meet's world where like now

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh my god, that is not cool, Like

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 4>like Pacey loses his virginity to his forty year old

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 4>teacher on Dawson's Creed.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 5>It's a very common thing. We just talked about this.

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's very common for shows of that time that

0:46:53.800 --> 0:47:00.080
<v Speaker 7>everyone was making looking up with people significantly.

0:46:58.920 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 5>Older than them.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Well Sean hitting on the teacher. That happened several times.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and hitting on Sean.

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so wild. Yeah. In the so in the

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 4>play reading, I played that teacher. Yeah, wow, tomorrow anyway,

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 4>it was sort of the part I was like born

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 4>to play, being honest, Like I really, I really. It

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 4>was really funny. But Kevin Williamson like, as soon as

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 4>we had a day of rehearsal and then we had

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 4>like a half day, and then we did the show

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 4>that night, and as soon as I walked in and

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 4>said hi to everybody, Kevin Williamson, who I've seen over

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:40.240
<v Speaker 4>the years, by the way, I mean it's been twenty

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 4>five years, Kevin was like, busy, can I talk to

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 4>you for a second, And he took me aside and

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 4>was like I had to say something that I've really

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 4>been thinking about. I've thought about it a lot for years.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 4>I never reached out to you. I won't to apologize

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 4>putting you in the finale. I don't know if you know,

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Like he was just like I was just in a

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 4>moment in my career, my life, when like I had

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 4>so many things going on. They had like asked me

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.959
<v Speaker 4>at the very last minute to come back and write

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 4>the finale. I had like a day and a half

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 4>to do it, and I just made this kind of

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 4>weird decision and I could have done better and I didn't,

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sorry.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Wow, And I I started crying.

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 4>I literally started crying, and I was like, Kevin, like

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 4>that means so much to me, thank you for saying that.

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate it, And yeah, great, great, let's do this.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 7>Wow, that might have been so rewarding to like, yeah,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 7>something that's just always been in the back of your mind.

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 7>Like you said, you're not going to say you were

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 7>like carrying it around. It wasn't like in the forefront

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 7>you're carrying the shooting daggers every time you hear his

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 7>name or whatever. But it's somewhere in the back of

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 7>your mind that you're like, man, I that ended on

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 7>a note that made me feel like two years of

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 7>my life wasn't valued. And to actually get an apology like.

0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 4>That is so nice, I know, and rare and rare

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 4>and I but also I think really speaks to you know, obviously,

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 4>like he is a person who is self reflective and

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 4>has you know, and had a moment where he was like,

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 4>oh wait, that wasn't maybe the kindest thing. Maybe I

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 4>should take ownership of that in a real way instead

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 4>of just like being nice to me every time he

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 4>sees me, you know, which is like, I think what

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 4>most people do, right, they're like, don't want this?

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Actually a closure too? I mean that, Yeah, we had

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 2>that on our show.

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Trina came on our podcast and somebody had

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 6>told because Trina wasn't in our last episode, and somebody

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 6>had told Trina that we as a cast went to

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 6>our producer and said we didn't want her in the episode,

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 6>which is completely untrue, and so she had been holding

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 6>onto that for twenty five and rightfully so.

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And so when we talked about it, we were like wait, what.

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.800
<v Speaker 5>What Yeah, because we didn't even know that.

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 6>We had no idea that this had that she had

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 6>been told this and so yeah, I mean it was

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 6>it had bothered her for decades and again rightfully, so

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:03.720
<v Speaker 6>it made me feel less.

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Then, and it was nice to us to sit down

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 2>and be like, we had no.

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 4>This is the first one hearing that you had heard.

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was.

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Why would somebody tell them say that to her?

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I can reflect deflect for.

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>That's the correct But imagine, I mean imagine if we

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>did have that kind of power.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 3>At that time we were so like clueless actors, like whuk,

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 3>what are we doing next week?

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>But if we had banded together and been like, let's

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>get rid of another cast member, no.

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.879
<v Speaker 6>Weird thing to band again, Like we wouldn't be together

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.919
<v Speaker 6>to get money. We banded together to get have one

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 6>cast member, not in one episode.

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 4>Like it's yeah, it doesn't even make sense logically, No,

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't.

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 7>But at the time, of course, the thing we've talked

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 7>about so much is at the time they are relying

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 7>on the idea that we are not communicating with each

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 7>other about things that it's going to feel, yeah, that

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 7>the actors are not that she wasn't going to come

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 7>to us and say, why would you guys do this

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 7>to me, and she didn't because he and the person

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 7>who told her that knew she would probably not do

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.240
<v Speaker 7>that right, and we because it played.

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Right into her actor insecurity, which we all have. And like,

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem with being an actor is that you

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 1>feel disposable and you feel like, you know, you're being

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>asked to be a human being on camera and to

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>bring all this authenticity and emotion, but it feels like

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just do you fit into the schedule?

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Can we pay you enough?

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, and it's like it all diminishes your sense

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of self to you know, you're just like, I'm just

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a pawn and somebody in you know, Kevin Williamson's.

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Script, like I'm just like whatever.

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>And of course what starts to happen is you start

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking that the people in charge never care about you,

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't care about your feelings, even when you know they

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>have their own stuff going on and they you know,

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>who knows what the real situation is.

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's a it's a machine.

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.800
<v Speaker 4>And I think because I had come from this experience

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 4>on Freaks and Geeks where we really did feel valued

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 4>and like, uh, and that you know, I think that

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons why almost everyone from that show

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:02.919
<v Speaker 4>has gone on to be multi hyphenates and do all

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:07.399
<v Speaker 4>kinds of different things, myself included. Is because jud and

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Paul and Jake Kasden, who was our like directing producer, producer, director.

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there I go.

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Thank you really instilled in us, Like even though you

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 4>guys are you know, I feel like Seth was sixteen,

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I think, or seventeen when we started the show. Martin

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 4>Starr was like fourteen or fifteen. Even though you guys

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 4>are like technically teenagers, your ideas are valuable. You're talented,

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 4>and we want to know what you think about what

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 4>we're bringing to you. They were always asking us, what

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 4>do you think? Is this feel right? Is this like

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 4>a thing that you would like a teenager would say? Anyway?

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, feel like going from that experience

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 4>and then feeling like, oh I really was not I

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 4>don't really feel valued at all in this in this show,

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 4>but it really gave me, you know, I don't know

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 4>a roadmap for kind of how I would want to

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 4>be treated on set, and then also what I am

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 4>going to look for in collaborators and partners.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you have so many iconic shows on your resume.

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 6>If you could go back and do one episode of

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 6>any one of the shows again, which one would you pick?

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Is this is really? It's Girls five EVA for sure,

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 4>because I just love the show so much and I

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 4>know it sort of just ended, but I really miss

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 4>it and.

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 5>That shows so funny.

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's that's going to be another one

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 4>where people are going to find it. Yeah, and then

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 4>in like two years are going to be as to

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:51.400
<v Speaker 4>why there's not more of them. I just loved that

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.359
<v Speaker 4>show so much and I love doing it. We had

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:53.919
<v Speaker 4>the best time.

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.879
<v Speaker 5>Are there any movies or TV shows that you got

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 5>close on that still haunt you?

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Nothing haunts me?

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, healthy Kevin Williamson.

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, right, but not anymore. That's that we close

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 4>the loop. That's loop has when closed. But what are

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 4>some things that I tested for that I didn't get?

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 4>There was a TV show that I tested for, but

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 4>then I got Dawson's Creek. See this is why I'm like,

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 4>nothing haunts me, like it always is fine, Like you

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 4>know we've all been We've all been doing this long enough,

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like it really is true

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 4>that your career is your career, and so not getting

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 4>jobs while in the moment like that, rejection can be devastating,

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 4>especially if you get really close on something. Ultimately, I

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:52.320
<v Speaker 4>have just found that it has always worked in my favor,

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 4>even even the fact that like at the time I

0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 4>was doing the movie White Chicks and could audition for

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and White Chicks was pushing their production like we kept

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 4>we pushed, so like we were going longer than we

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 4>were supposed to be going. So I couldn't audition for

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Mean Girls the movie, and I was like devastated because

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I really wanted to be in that movie obviously, and guys,

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 4>guess was in the Mean Girls movie. But you know

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, Like I couldn't have been the mom

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 4>in the new Mean Girls movie, you know what I mean. Like,

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 4>it's just like everything works out, everything works out, and

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 4>White Chicks is like the most iconic movie that I've

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:38.359
<v Speaker 4>ever done.

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 7>So I was going to ask you, with everything you've done,

0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 7>how many people come up to you and want to

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 7>talk about White Chicks?

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's everyone, no joke, at least at least

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 4>five times a week. I'm not I'm not an exaggeration.

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Someone will say something to me about white Chicks five

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 4>times a week, Like it's crazy and everywhere in the

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 4>world that's like.

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:02.280
<v Speaker 5>That's so cool.

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 4>It's quite it's actually just like okay, I mean wow,

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:09.280
<v Speaker 4>had no idea at the time, but I love it.

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 4>It's really funny.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 7>You also currently host Busy This Week on QVC plus,

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 7>a place I pop up with my own hair care product.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:20.919
<v Speaker 7>I love QVC. I'm there many times a year. Tell

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 7>our listeners a little bit about your show.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, so you know, I had a late night

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 4>talk show on E for a year in twenty eighteen

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 4>to twenty nineteen, and when it got canceled, I was

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 4>really bummed because we had a great time and I

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 4>just loved doing a late night talk show. And I

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 4>have long felt the inequality of not having women be

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 4>the hosts of these shows or given you know, longer

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 4>than whatever a year to find an audience. And so

0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Casey saint Ande, my producing partner on that show, and

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I really were trying to figure out, like, how do

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 4>we do another one? Where are we going to go?

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 4>And we were kind of building to something, and then

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the pandemic happened, and so we pivoted and we did

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 4>our podcast for over five years, and then at a

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 4>certain point QVC had come to me to do a

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 4>little like holiday special thing for them, and in that

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 4>process Casey I asked Casey to come do it with me.

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 4>And in that process we learned that they were going

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 4>to launch their own streaming network and they were looking

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 4>for they didn't really know what they were looking for,

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 4>but they were thinking they were going to have more

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 4>original content and not just twenty four hour shopping content,

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 4>that it would be different. So we were like, well,

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.919
<v Speaker 4>why don't we just do my talk show there. Let's

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 4>just do the talk show there. And they went for it,

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 4>and this is We've done two seasons. We've had a

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 4>great time. It's a talk show. You know, we have

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 4>incredible guests. Rosie O'Donnell was amazing. You got to come

0:57:59.360 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 4>beyond it.

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 5>I would not to please.

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, she was talking about you also on qv She

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>was clearly speaking to me and you instantly.

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 7>I will tell you, I don't think you guys speak

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 7>to the QVC audience.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean not know, not no, not no, sure, not no. Wow.

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I can speak to any audience, Thank

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you very much.

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.439
<v Speaker 4>I I think that's he's not right. I think that's right.

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 4>I think that's right.

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 5>He's not wrong.

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Feels right to me. I don't know if it is,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 4>but it.

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 5>Feels real right, it feels good. That feels good.

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Writers just quiet. He's like, I'm not I would never

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>be on any show.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and QVC audience don't understand, so I probably not.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably why don't you like to be on talk shows?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really bad at on camera being myself, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a horrible famous person, Like, I just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You're on camera right now being yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's audio mostly second clips. Yeah, I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>my house. It's fine. No, I just I'm not. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do well in those situations. I always look

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm being held.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be like, I'll be like, ladies and gentlemen, you

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<v Speaker 6>only got thirty minutes left to buy righters strong.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even believe he's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not good whippy. He's not a quippy person.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't work in sound bite its well correct, and even.

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<v Speaker 5>The idea of like the pre show interview were like

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<v Speaker 5>trying to what's what's the quick funny story you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to tell? Like that pressure on it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, oh god, no, he just right from the

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<v Speaker 7>beginning there's a lot of anxiety, and he's just like,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't need that.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, I kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to see it. I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>Rider on every talk show.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I get uncomfortable just watching talk shows, Like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>handle it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't watch interviews and talk shows.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I know nothing about famous people, even people

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<v Speaker 1>I really love their work. I don't know anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the personal life because the second I'm watching an interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, God, get me a way, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just not my not my style.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well there's I think there's something to that, And

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<v Speaker 4>I think it also speaks to when you watch men

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<v Speaker 4>who are comedians interview people that is actually like there

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<v Speaker 4>is a lot of pressure because what you see is

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<v Speaker 4>them searching for their joke and they're not actually listening

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of the times but well, but I really,

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<v Speaker 4>I really, in my experience, why I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>a talk show was first of all, because I was

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<v Speaker 4>sick of the fact that there were no women that

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<v Speaker 4>had them, but also, and specifically late night, because there's

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<v Speaker 4>this whole you know, like deeply rooted in the misogyny

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<v Speaker 4>and the patriarchy that like women can only have daytime

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<v Speaker 4>talk shows because that's when women are home doing the laundry,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know from back in the day, and like

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<v Speaker 4>men go to their jobs and then they need to

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<v Speaker 4>relax with their scotch and watch how they don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to help. Not a woman.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to hear a woman talk at night.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's so just it's literally what it was, what

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<v Speaker 4>it was based, what it's been based in.

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<v Speaker 2>And to fight.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, Joan Rivers was the top comedian of the

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<v Speaker 6>day and she had she never got it and never

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<v Speaker 6>got it. She was she could guess and that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>The closest with Chelsea Lately.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Chelsea had years and she had such an

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<v Speaker 4>amazing run and then but then you look at it

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, that's one one woman.

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<v Speaker 6>There's somebody else had one last, last one last year

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<v Speaker 6>and they just cancel a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so funny. I can't think of her name.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Amber Ruffin had like that late night talk show

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<v Speaker 4>thing after you're thinking of Taylor, Mom, Taylor at midnight

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor Tomlinson, but at midnight's a game show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's also like she's the best.

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<v Speaker 4>She's so funny. But it also is a game show,

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<v Speaker 4>not actually a late night talk show, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. Anyway, my point being writer, my favorite guest,

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<v Speaker 4>part of the reason why I wanted to do it

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<v Speaker 4>is because I fully feel you on that And like,

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite guest from the E Talk Show was Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Radcliffe because he showed up and he was literally like you,

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, this isn't for me. I'm not like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like this. Da da da da weird at

1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 4>the end of it, like he like didn't want to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was like, actually amazing to see the

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<v Speaker 4>transition because I just was like, I'll just talk to

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<v Speaker 4>you about.

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<v Speaker 5>Like what you like, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he really have magic powers?

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<v Speaker 4>He was really wonderful see magical magic and he's super talented.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, very busy.

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<v Speaker 7>My last question for you is if you could go

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<v Speaker 7>back in time and tell young Busy Phillips on the

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<v Speaker 7>Freaks and Geeks set, just one thing, what would you

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<v Speaker 7>tell her?

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<v Speaker 4>My god, this is the second time someone has like

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<v Speaker 4>asked me this question this week, and I have no answer.

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<v Speaker 4>And you would think, since I've already been asked it,

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<v Speaker 4>that I would have come up with something, But the

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<v Speaker 4>truth is I don't know if you guys feel this way.

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<v Speaker 4>I just am sort of like, first of all, there

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<v Speaker 4>was nothing that I could ever tell that girl, do

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, listened, not even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Would she have listened. She would have been like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>old lady, fine, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that your voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like what my voice for my nineteen year old self

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<v Speaker 5>is as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and now I have this seventeen year old mini

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<v Speaker 4>me that is it's a real vibe. Guy is watching

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<v Speaker 4>her on camera because I'm like, it is a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a mine. I mean, honestly, like just crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I kind of feel I've thought a lot

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<v Speaker 4>about it, and like I don't think there's anything that

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<v Speaker 4>I could tell her that would change anything or change

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<v Speaker 4>her way of thinking. I mean, maybe get diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 4>ADHD sooner, Okay, I mean honestly, because I think I've

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<v Speaker 4>spent a lot of time feeling really terrible about my

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<v Speaker 4>brain and then in my late thirties was diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 4>ADHD and I was like, oh, now it all makes sense,

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<v Speaker 4>So maybe that what about that? Yeah, like your brain

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<v Speaker 4>is fine, You're not stupid. Where just you have executive

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<v Speaker 4>organizational functioning skills that you need to work on.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, so smart.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, that is probably one of the things that would

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<v Speaker 7>help you change your life and right it's very practical.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably. That's probably anything else I think I would

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<v Speaker 4>have been like, yeah, I know it's gonna work whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>I know everything. You know nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if you know this, but I am eighteen.

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<v Speaker 7>I know everything. Yeah, that's I totally get that.

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<v Speaker 5>Busy. Thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks guys, I love the pod.

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