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Speaker 4: Everyone your flexibility?

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Speaker 3: Let's do it all right? Colorado like, yeah, Boulder.

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Speaker 7: we love a guest who's lived it, learned from it,

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Speaker 7: please welcome to Pod meets World. Busy Phillips.

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Speaker 4: Hi, guys, Hi, Hi, thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 4: I rilled.

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Speaker 7: I have to ask this question. How many people do

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Speaker 7: you tell to go watch the movie The Gift? Because

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Speaker 7: it is a criminally underrated masterpiece. I tell everyone about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm in it. I know, I'm not even kidding. I

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Speaker 4: don't think I've ever seen it. What Yeah? And in fact,

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Speaker 4: my god like my godson, my best friend's son, who's

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Speaker 4: long ago and he's like, WHOA, I'm watching the craziest

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Speaker 5: It's so good in your yes, it's so.

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Speaker 4: Joel Edgerton right here wrote it and directed it.

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Speaker 7: It is an incredible movie. And I literally talk to

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Speaker 5: At some point.

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Speaker 7: It comes up like underrated movies that people need to see.

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Speaker 5: You've got to see The Gift. Writer will walk us

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Speaker 7: It's a really great movie about a guy who was

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Speaker 4: And Hall and Jason Bateman right correct, and it's kind

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Speaker 4: of a dream team. It's a thriller, but that's also

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Speaker 5: But it is. It's just good.

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Speaker 7: It's riveting, and it's criminally underrated and nobody knows about it.

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Speaker 5: And I'm always like, you have to see The Gift.

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Speaker 5: So anyway it I know, it feels like a real shame.

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Speaker 4: It is, but I think it was like one of

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Speaker 4: I did and like, and so I couldn't go to

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Speaker 4: really saw the movie. Ye, but honestly, you're selling it

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Speaker 7: I want to see I want everyone to watch it

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Speaker 6: It's a twenty fifteen psychological thriller or a couple encounters

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Speaker 4: And they had a really I do remember this because

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Speaker 4: a really funny marketing campaign where they would they were

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Speaker 4: finding out I mean, these are twenty fifteen, it's like

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Speaker 5: This thing that you guys are doing.

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Speaker 6: You should also not confuse it with the Gift from

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Speaker 6: two thousand with Kate Blanchette and Holmes.

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Speaker 4: Is in it? Kate Holmes, isn't that gift? Okay?

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Speaker 2: And Hillary Swank?

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Speaker 5: Wow Holmes and Swank.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Well, I want to start now that

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Speaker 7: I've gotten that movie out of the way, I want

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Speaker 7: in Arizona, right, You were a Scottsdale Chaparral grad.

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Speaker 7: It was Hollywood always in your sights growing up.

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Speaker 4: Were you a theater kid? Yeah, I it at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, writer, how old is.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's mostly I mean since his voiceover,

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Speaker 4: Just wait, I fully did that this summer. I like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just felt like I could just see it.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, that was so my mom was like, no, rightfully,

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Speaker 4: This is fantastic. But uh, I was always planning to

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Speaker 4: I was the Clueless doll from the TV show, The

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Speaker 4: spring that pilot season. I got Freaks and Geeks.

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Speaker 4: was I think it was Paul that was like, hey, busy,

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00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: we have this other part. Would you take a look

443
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: at it and come back in and give it a shot.

444
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: And so, you know, it was like one of those things.

445
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: I went outside for ten minutes and then went back

446
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 4: in and did my Kim Kelly audition, which is in

447
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: the DVD extras if anybody has them, and uh, and

448
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: from that I was cast on the show because they

449
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: didn't test that part. I didn't have to screen test

450
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 4: for that part because it was initially just a guest

451
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: star for the for the pilot, which is also why

452
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 4: I'm not in the opening credits. But they added me

453
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: as a series regular after the show got picked up.

454
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Wait, so you can watch your audition from yea from

455
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: back then. How do you feel about it now when

456
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: you watch it back? Are you like, oh, that makes sense?

457
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: Or are you like what were they thinking?

458
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: Well, it's so funny because I did a podcast like

459
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: a year and a half ago and they played it

460
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: for me like I hadn't watched it, and so, I mean,

461
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: I hadn't watched it in so long and they played

462
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: it for me, and I mean, it's really cute. Don't

463
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: you die when you look at when you watch yourselves?

464
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: Hmm?

465
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't like it. I don't love it. You

466
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 7: don't want, you know, not really.

467
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: For the most part, I love watching myself. I hate

468
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: watching both of them.

469
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 5: Difference.

470
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 7: That sounds about right. So did you not have to

471
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 7: chemistry test with everyone? Like as the cast was rounding

472
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 7: out there was none of that. You basically just auditioned

473
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 7: for the producers went out for ten minutes, came back

474
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 7: read for Kim Kelly and then that was it.

475
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 4: You had the job, and that was it. They to

476
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: be the job. But what was crazy is that Linda

477
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 4: Cardelini and Linda Cardlini and I have the same birthday,

478
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 4: but she is four years older than me, and she was,

479
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: I guess technically like on a break from LMU because

480
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: she had been working so much. But so she was

481
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: essentially like a senior when I was a freshman, but

482
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 4: she wasn't go actively going to school, but she was around,

483
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: like I knew because the theater department, like everybody knew her.

484
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 4: She was kind of like the star of the theater department.

485
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: And so I was already friends with her. And I

486
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 4: ran into her at LAX when I was picking up

487
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 4: my boyfriend Colin Hanks and she was picking up her roommate.

488
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: And remember when you were young and you had to

489
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: pick people up at the airport.

490
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well now you're married, I still have to.

491
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: Still doesn't he doesn't do the uber situation. He just

492
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 7: goes and picks people up.

493
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: Well, you're maybe a good person.

494
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: I like to think.

495
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 6: So I love my wife too, She's pretty cool. So yeah,

496
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 6: I'd rather go pick her up.

497
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's rad. Well anyway, I ran into her

498
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: and she had just gotten the part, and I had

499
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 4: been offered the part of Kim Kelly, and my agents

500
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: at the time were a little bit like, we don't

501
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: know if you should do it because it's just a

502
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: guest star and it's early in pilot season and we

503
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 4: feel like you're going to get a Silens regular like

504
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: a pilot you know, it's like one of those things

505
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: where and I really didn't know what to do. But

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: running into Linda, she was like, dude, I just got it,

507
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: and jud told me that you're going to be Kim Kelly.

508
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: They want you for Kim Kelly. You go, you gotta

509
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 4: do it. And it just was like as soon as

510
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 4: I saw her and found that out, I was like, oh,

511
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: well that obviously this is what I'm doing. Because also

512
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: I was so nervous to do my first actual real

513
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 4: job and to have someone like Linda with next to

514
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: me or you know, sort of showing me the ropes.

515
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: I mean, she taught me everything from like what to

516
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 4: order at craft services to like how to make your

517
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: trailer really how to turn on the heat and your

518
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: trailer yes, and then like all the on camera stuff

519
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: Like she's like, I like to pick a place to

520
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 4: look like, I didn't know, you don't know any of

521
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 4: that stuff. Yeah right, I mean you guys were kids

522
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 4: who taught you our directors.

523
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, on set we were so young, it was like, yeah,

524
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: you had to just be told like open to camera,

525
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you know in multicam, like that whole idea of like

526
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: pulling your shoulders and standing on your.

527
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: Lap, do all that kind of stuff.

528
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely, But wait, so you hadn't taken any

529
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: like on camera acting classes.

530
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: It was all theater stuff up until then.

531
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't even like I don't even think that

532
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: they kind of I don't think they offered that at LMA,

533
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 4: Like I don't think that was in anything. And I

534
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: mean I didn't have a ton of I worked at

535
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: California Pizza Kitchen. I didn't like have a ton of money.

536
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 4: So I wasn't like paying to do those classes. You

537
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: would see, you know, the film acting or you know

538
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: acting for the camera classes. You would like see you

539
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: know whatever advertised all over town. Right, So I don't.

540
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: I just didn't. And I was a kid. I mean

541
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: I was like nineteen, I got Yeah, I was nineteen.

542
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm curious which CPK you worked at?

543
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: Marina del Ray, honey.

544
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: That's so when my brother moved out to Los Angeles

545
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 6: for a year back in nineteen eighty something, that's.

546
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Where he worked.

547
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 6: We really the marina run the Marina Delway CPK, and

548
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 6: he left with a bunch of recipes and we still

549
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: make the bar. I have the barbecue chicken pizza two

550
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 6: nights ago at our house.

551
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: Who has the buttercake recipe? Do they do?

552
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: They offer that?

553
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

554
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: Good question, we have we can find it.

555
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 4: Okay, what's the buttercake? What is that from? CPK?

556
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 6: Oh?

557
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so good.

558
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 7: I get it every year on my birthday and Mother's Day. Wow,

559
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 7: sometimes when it's.

560
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Just a Wednesday and you might get it later today.

561
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: And now that we're talking about it, and I just.

562
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Tell you, I really love that. You guys like Alforni

563
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: you Pizza Kitchen.

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: It's one of my favorite restaurants.

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: I could do without it. Me too. Chicken and pizza

566
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: not right.

567
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: Sure, don't eat that, don't don't get you tell your

568
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: pizza so don't even start talking to me.

569
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 7: Is incredible, the best, the best thing ever. When they

570
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 7: took it away for a while used to make a

571
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 7: b L T pizza which is really also came back pizzo,

572
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 7: the Kung Pou spaghetti with shrimp.

573
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: Good franking food, making great.

574
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Salads to salad.

575
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: Good salads.

576
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, chicken salad with no tomatoes add avocado.

577
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm extra tomatoes.

578
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: I could do without tomatoes. Take them away. I'll get you.

579
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: There's good food. So writers not interested?

580
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome back to PODK.

581
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: I like, I hate that I live in New York

582
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: now and there's no California pea to kitchen here. And

583
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 4: I did an ad campaign for them last year, and

584
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: I because they turned forty last year, which is crazy.

585
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Can you go belly it?

586
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question.

587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean in the freezer section.

588
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: So true.

589
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: But I was trying to convince them to do a

590
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: pop up in New York and they were like, I

591
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: mean we're I think we're okay. I was like, okay,

592
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: we're good.

593
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 7: We're good on that thing. So we're not going to

594
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 7: go to the market where nobody knows who we are.

595
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 7: That's not that's not a great idea. Did you know

596
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 7: how good Freaks and Geeks was while you were making it?

597
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: Yes, I think we did. I'm not in the pilot,

598
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: not during the pilot, I don't know what, because I

599
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: was also just like I have no idea what's happening,

600
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I think once we started,

601
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: once I saw the pilot, I was like, oh, wow,

602
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: this is a thing, Like this is real, and not

603
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: only that, like really good, uh because I think tonally

604
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: I sort of just didn't even on or stand what

605
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: it was. I mean talk about it was ahead of

606
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: its time, right, So so I think it was really

607
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: hard even for me. But I was a huge my

608
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: so called life fan, and so it like sort of

609
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: reminded me of that, but funnier and anyway, Yeah, I

610
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: think once we started filming the series, we all had

611
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: this understanding that what we were doing was really great.

612
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: And you know then also, like I said, my college

613
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: boyfriend Colin Hanks was on Roswell and they were filming basically, well,

614
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: they were filming at Paramount across the street from we

615
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 4: were at Raleigh Studios in Hollywood, So it was kind

616
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: of like perfect fun and yeah, you know, like all

617
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: those kids and our cast would hang out and it

618
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: was just really great.

619
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 7: Well, it's definitely become one of the seminal shows of

620
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 7: its generation. It's but it's an infamous first season cancelation,

621
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 7: winning an EM once it was already off the air,

622
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 7: but sparked the careers of not only You, seth Rogen,

623
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 7: Jason Siegel, John Francis Day, Martin Starr. It's a stacked

624
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 7: launching pad. But yeah, at the time that it then

625
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 7: didn't take off, was that absolutely devastating?

626
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, it was crazy and I just felt like,

627
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: now what right?

628
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Right?

629
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: You're like that was incredible? How did that not go?

630
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: You can only go downhill from there? Is what you

631
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: think when you leave, Like, what do I do now?

632
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: But I think that's right. I mean I think that's right.

633
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: Like we I really was. So my world was rocked.

634
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But within the industry it was beloved, right,

635
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like everyone knew that it was a good

636
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: show with a stacked cast.

637
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: You didn't feel that you didn't eventually.

638
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: Feel that didn't Yes, but that didn't happen for years. Wow, right,

639
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: Like this was nineteen ninety nine.

640
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 6: It does have a special place in Hollywood where it's

641
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 6: it's one of those shows like like Leslie Nielsen's Original

642
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 6: Police Squad where it's it was so ahead of its

643
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: time that you do six, eight, ten episodes and then

644
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 6: people find it years later and they go, what the hell,

645
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: how is this not the biggest thing on TV? And

646
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 6: so yeah, there's there's what I'm trying to think, four

647
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: or five shows in history of television.

648
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I knew about it back then, Like

649
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it was when it was happening. There

650
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: was conversation when was Linda on our show in relation

651
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: to After?

652
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: It was after four?

653
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: It was four.

654
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: Because that was it was a big deal at LMU

655
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: that she was on. I totally forgot about this, Like

656
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: we all watched it. This was a huge deal. Okay,

657
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: so she did after Wow.

658
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: So that so you guys were doing ninety eight, ninety

659
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: nine then were it was? It was.

660
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: Ninety nine pilot season, and then it was ninety nine,

661
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: two thousand, canceling two thousand. We did nineteen episodes.

662
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 9: Wow.

663
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Speaker 2: So she had already broken up Corey into Panga by

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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she was already the villain.

666
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Speaker 5: She was already a villain.

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Speaker 7: It, by the way, won an Emmy for Outstanding Casting

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Speaker 7: for a Comedy.

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Speaker 3: S Oh yeah, Alison Y. Yeah, she's a legend, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Alison Jones incredible.

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Speaker 1: I mean she cast the original pilot for Boyby World too,

672
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Speaker 1: so she did yeah, yeah, which means she only she

673
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Speaker 1: cast me in this call and the only one. But yeah,

674
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Speaker 1: because she she did the pilot and then I don't

675
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even really remember meeting her, but

676
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Speaker 1: that's who I auditioned for the first time. And then yeah,

677
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Speaker 1: so she put the original pilot together of Boybe World

678
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Speaker 1: and then recast and then you know, changed as we went.

679
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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, she's amazing. Yeah, look at you look

680
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Speaker 1: at her work and you're like, oh, she like literally

681
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: found so many people before they were anybody, and she

682
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Speaker 1: always goes for the interesting choice and the good actor.

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Speaker 3: It's yeh, she's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very she's very cool. Yeah.

685
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Speaker 6: Well that was the other thing about Freaks and Keys

686
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Speaker 6: at the time is we're we're in the late nineties

687
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Speaker 6: early aughts at this point, so you're still in beautiful

688
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Speaker 6: teenage shows. It was all gorgeous people standing there and

689
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Speaker 6: and geeks as you know, obviously Linda's beautiful, busy, beautiful,

690
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Speaker 6: but they were they came off as real. It was

691
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Speaker 6: like they were they were casting for real people as

692
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Speaker 6: opposed to just it's soap opera actors but that can

693
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Speaker 6: hit their marks for a sitcom, it was freaking and

694
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Speaker 6: Geeks was like, can we can we cast some real

695
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Speaker 6: people that can act and are funny and amazing and

696
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Speaker 6: you want to watch? And that was that kind of

697
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: started a whole new trend in television in the early odds.

698
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Speaker 6: It got away from from being like, who's who's the

699
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Speaker 6: best looking guy.

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Speaker 2: And girl we can put on this show? It was like,

701
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Speaker 2: who's who's the best?

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Speaker 4: Part? Well, I think it's also was like that era

703
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Speaker 4: of teen shows. It was like right when Dawson's Creek

704
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Speaker 4: had come out, you know, it was like a year

705
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Speaker 4: and a half a year or two after that, so

706
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Speaker 4: it was like Felicity and Dawson's Creek and the WBU

707
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Speaker 4: was really like having its moment right and they were

708
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Speaker 4: casting the most beautiful people objectively and not for nothing.

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Speaker 4: I actually I think that in that world, like I

710
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: didn't I wasn't that. I did not I wasn't hot

711
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Speaker 4: like that, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't

712
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Speaker 4: a hot teen. I'm actually like a super hot forty

713
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Speaker 4: woman in her forties. But like, but like I wasn't

714
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Speaker 4: I really wasn't a hot. I wasn't hot as a teenager.

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Speaker 4: I was like weird and a little I don't know

716
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Speaker 4: like and I wasn't like that era was very specific

717
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Speaker 4: of what the beauty was, do you know what I'm saying,

718
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Speaker 4: and that I just did not I didn't really fit

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Speaker 4: into it. I remember reading a review of Freaks and

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Speaker 4: Geeks that was like, you won't find any beautiful people here,

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Speaker 4: and I was a little bit like, well, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 4: and that's.

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Speaker 3: All right right.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Hey.

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Speaker 2: It's Wilfred Dell and Sabrina Bryan.

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Speaker 6: From the podcast Magical Rewind, and we have a very

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Speaker 6: special guest on this week episode. He's the mastermind behind

728
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Speaker 6: some of your favorite movies like Hocus Pocus, Newsy's The Descendants,

729
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Speaker 6: and of course.

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Speaker 2: High School Musical.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it is the one and only a living legend

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Speaker 6: director Kenny or Tega.

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Speaker 10: We sit down with Kenny to talk about his incredible

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Speaker 10: career and the legacy he's created with his choreography and films.

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Speaker 2: You seriously will not want to miss this one.

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Speaker 10: Listen to Magical Rewind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 10: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 7: Well, soon after Freaks and Geeks, you find yourself cast

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Speaker 7: on another show every young actor wished they were on,

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Speaker 7: including all of us on the Zoom And that's Dawson's Creek.

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Speaker 7: Before you join the cast in season five, had you

742
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Speaker 7: been watching it like everyone else?

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Speaker 4: Now, I missed it. It wasn't me. It wasn't for me.

744
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Speaker 4: Waits Actually, I still have never watched.

745
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Speaker 5: Oh that's so funny. You've never seen anything you've been in.

746
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Speaker 4: I know. I mean that's not necessarily true. I definitely

747
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: have watched things I've been at, but like, yeah, I

748
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: just wasn't. I wasn't. There were people in my college,

749
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Speaker 4: like freshman year who definitely watched Dawson's every week one

750
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Speaker 4: hundred percent. I did watch Felicity. I was a Felicity girl.

751
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: I loved that show and then became friends with Scott

752
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: Speedman years later, and it always cracks me up. It

753
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: still cracks me up. He's like, I just love him,

754
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Speaker 4: But yeah, like, I don't know what else did I watch?

755
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Speaker 4: I don't know what I was watching.

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Speaker 7: Well, sometimes joining a cast in season five can be

757
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Speaker 7: a little daunting. Everybody's already super close and everyone has

758
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 7: their own way of doing things. Did you feel welcome

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Speaker 7: right off the bat in that cast, on that set.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I think it's like very I

761
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 4: think being a guest star on any long running show

762
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: coming in for one episode is like the scariest thing.

763
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Speaker 4: I was added to the cast. I had to test.

764
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Speaker 4: I had to do like a full studio network test

765
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Speaker 4: for it, and they were adding me, and they I

766
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Speaker 4: think they tested Chad Michael Murray for he was sort

767
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Speaker 4: of recurring that year. I don't know, it was. Yeah,

768
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Speaker 4: it was like intimidating also because it wasn't being filmed

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Speaker 4: in LA. It was in Wilmington, North Carolina, So I

770
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Speaker 4: basically had to like relocate right to a place you're

771
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Speaker 4: not familiar with at all, and I didn't know where

772
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Speaker 4: to live, and like it was Yeah, it was hard.

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Speaker 4: It was and I was twenty one, Like it was

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Speaker 4: very It was tricky, and it was less that like

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Speaker 4: they were all so close at that point. They were

776
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Speaker 4: all just like this was the job, and they all

777
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Speaker 4: had their own lives, you know, that were established, like

778
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Speaker 4: really well established. But Michelle and I met the first

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Speaker 4: person I met when I got to town. Everybody was

780
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Speaker 4: put up in the same small, little boutique hotel in Wilmington.

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Speaker 4: It was called literally the Woman Tonian. I know, I

782
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Speaker 4: don't know if it still is, but that's what it was.

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Speaker 4: And uh, James Vanderbeek was staying there because he like

784
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Speaker 4: something had happened with his house or he was something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't remember what happened, but like

786
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Speaker 4: some construction or something, and he couldn't move in yet.

787
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Speaker 4: And so I met him first, and he was so nice,

788
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Speaker 4: and he was like, I've heard the best things about you.

789
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Speaker 4: I heard your audition was incredible. Like, he was so nice.

790
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Speaker 4: And then Michelle was across the street at this little

791
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: like stop and go place, picking up like gatorade and

792
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: fig Newton's and she walked across the street. Well, I

793
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: love fig Newton's. We used, Michelle and I still joke that,

794
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Speaker 4: like we thought that fig Newton's were health food, right,

795
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Speaker 4: I know, the cookies they're cooking, they're absolutely a dessert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was like like an energy bar.

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Speaker 6: It is, yeah, and the more you eat, the healthier

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Speaker 6: they get.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 4: I think that that's.

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Speaker 2: The thing that people don't know about Fig notes fig

803
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Speaker 2: is in the title.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I could eat a whole sleeve exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's figs and.

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Speaker 3: Pizza is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And again, do you have cream cheese, cream cheese and figure

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Speaker 1: in the pineapple guy?

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Speaker 2: You don't get to throw shade at other people's pizza.

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Speaker 4: That's like I definitely agree. But yeah, and so then

812
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: she and I met and then like sort of instantly

813
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Speaker 4: fell in love. And we had had mutual friends tell

814
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Speaker 4: us that we would get along, so we were already

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Speaker 4: sort of set up to be friends like each other.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Well you all recently reunited recently on Broadway

817
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Speaker 7: to raise money for the f cancer charity in James

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Speaker 7: Vanderbeek's name. Did anything surprise you about jumping back into

819
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Speaker 7: your character almost twenty five years later?

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't play my character because I wasn't because

821
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Speaker 4: we did we did a stage reading of the pilot,

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Speaker 4: and so like Kur Smith and Meredith Monroe and myself,

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Speaker 4: and I'm trying to think if there was anyone else

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Speaker 4: we weren't in the pilot, and all had been added

825
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Speaker 4: to the cast at various points after. So Michelle and I,

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Speaker 4: you know, when James was diagnosed with cancer, it was

827
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Speaker 4: really you know, it was horrible, and he's got this

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00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: beautiful family, and you know, we all reached out to

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Speaker 4: him and Michelle, Michelle and Katie and I like sent

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Speaker 4: them some stuff like this, you know, I think it

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Speaker 4: was it like a year ago or something. And then

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Speaker 4: right after the New year, Michelle was just like, we

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00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: should do something. We just should do something. And so

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Speaker 4: she and I started to think about, like, well, what

835
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Speaker 4: would a live show be and what could we even do?

836
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Speaker 4: And you know, I do so many like live stage

837
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Speaker 4: shows of things that like I used to do at

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Speaker 4: Largo all the time in LA and the Bellhouse here

839
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Speaker 4: in New York, and I took my podcast out. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: we can do something on a stage. Her husband, Thomas Cale,

841
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: Tommy Cale, is the director of Hamilton, so we knew

842
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Speaker 4: that that theater would probably be open to helping us out.

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Speaker 4: The Richard Rogers, they were so lovely and so we

844
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Speaker 4: started to put this thing together. We called Katie and

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Speaker 4: she came over and we like, we're like, what if

846
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: we did the pilot. We should re read the pilot.

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Speaker 4: We could do a stage tading where we could do

848
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Speaker 4: like a night of song. Like we we're just trying

849
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: to like figure out some yeah, but like getting everyone

850
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Speaker 4: it was just so important that they that everyone be

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Speaker 4: there and and getting everyone's schedules lined up was a

852
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 4: little tricky sure, And then James got very sick and

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Speaker 4: was in the hospital and couldn't make the trip to

854
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Speaker 4: come be on stage and do it with us, and

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00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: that was really really hard and sad. But his family came,

856
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: all of his kids came, Kimberly, his wife came, and

857
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 4: we got to spend a lot of time with them,

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Speaker 4: and it was just sort of incredible for us all

859
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Speaker 4: to be back in the same room together. We haven't

860
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Speaker 4: done that since the show wrapped, so it's been whatever,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty five or five years almost?

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, great twenty five. I believe you.

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Speaker 10: Hi.

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Speaker 11: It's Jenny Garth, host of the I Choose Me podcast.

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Speaker 11: This week, I'm so excited to welcome my friend Gabrielle

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Speaker 11: carteris the Andrea Zuckerman from Beverly Hills nine o.

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Speaker 5: Two on Oh to the pod.

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Speaker 4: We're choosing to get real iplied to the networks about

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Speaker 4: my age and contracts. They never would have hired me

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Speaker 4: if they had known my age. We're choosing to be honest.

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Speaker 4: She looked at me and she said, this business is

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Speaker 4: about the mask, which you have neither of, and we're

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Speaker 4: choosing to get nostalgic.

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Speaker 12: Listen to I Choose Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

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Speaker 12: podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 7: People always ask us about that final episode of Boy

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Speaker 7: Meets World where we were crying in real life, and

879
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 7: it's right there on the screen as our characters. And

880
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 7: the final Dawson's Creek episode is also an emotional ride.

881
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 7: What was it like that day on set saying goodbye

882
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 7: to a show that basically raised almost an entire cast.

883
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's crazy because I wasn't in the two part No,

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: I wasn't in the two part finale, even though I

885
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: had been on the show for those two years leading

886
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: up to it. Kevin Williamson came back to write the finale,

887
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: and I mean, I got paid for her, guys, right,

888
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: But what I heard at the time was Kevin was like,

889
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: I don't know this character. I didn't create her, so

890
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: she's not going to be in the finale. And I was.

891
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: I I wrote about it in my book. I was

892
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: like pretty devastated, Like I was pretty sad, and I left.

893
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: I just left. I left Wilmington. I was like, well

894
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: you guys bye, Yeah, and so I wasn't there. Uh,

895
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: And then I did have to go back for the

896
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: like big they had, like this big finale party and

897
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: like photo shoot and this whole thing, and like they

898
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: were like, you actually contracted, you gotta go back for it.

899
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, I guess. So I did

900
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: go back for like the finale party, but yeah, like

901
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: I just wasn't I wasn't around. And then the craziest

902
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: thing happened. I haven't like I'm not gonna say I

903
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: like held on to it, but it was a thing

904
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: that sure really hurt my feelings and I felt like

905
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: I had given two seasons of my life to this show.

906
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 4: People really loved my character. I really, you know, gave

907
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: up like a big part of my life to be

908
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: in Wilmington. Not that like, you know, obviously I needed

909
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: the job, but yeah, I just was sad for my

910
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: character too. I'm like, she just gets relegated to like

911
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: one weird one.

912
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 5: I feel not valued and yeah.

913
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: Right, And when we were doing this reading which I

914
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: got to play this is so wild but also just

915
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: speaks to the time. I don't know if you guys

916
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 4: had any storylines in boy Meet's world where like now

917
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, that is not cool, Like

918
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: like Pacey loses his virginity to his forty year old

919
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: teacher on Dawson's Creed.

920
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: It's a very common thing. We just talked about this.

921
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very common for shows of that time that

922
00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 7: everyone was making looking up with people significantly.

923
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: Older than them.

924
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Well Sean hitting on the teacher. That happened several times.

925
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and hitting on Sean.

926
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so wild. Yeah. In the so in the

927
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: play reading, I played that teacher. Yeah, wow, tomorrow anyway,

928
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: it was sort of the part I was like born

929
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: to play, being honest, Like I really, I really. It

930
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: was really funny. But Kevin Williamson like, as soon as

931
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 4: we had a day of rehearsal and then we had

932
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: like a half day, and then we did the show

933
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: that night, and as soon as I walked in and

934
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: said hi to everybody, Kevin Williamson, who I've seen over

935
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 4: the years, by the way, I mean it's been twenty

936
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: five years, Kevin was like, busy, can I talk to

937
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: you for a second, And he took me aside and

938
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: was like I had to say something that I've really

939
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: been thinking about. I've thought about it a lot for years.

940
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 4: I never reached out to you. I won't to apologize

941
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: putting you in the finale. I don't know if you know,

942
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: Like he was just like I was just in a

943
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: moment in my career, my life, when like I had

944
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: so many things going on. They had like asked me

945
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 4: at the very last minute to come back and write

946
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: the finale. I had like a day and a half

947
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: to do it, and I just made this kind of

948
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: weird decision and I could have done better and I didn't,

949
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry.

950
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 5: Wow, And I I started crying.

951
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: I literally started crying, and I was like, Kevin, like

952
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: that means so much to me, thank you for saying that.

953
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it, And yeah, great, great, let's do this.

954
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: You know.

955
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 7: Wow, that might have been so rewarding to like, yeah,

956
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 7: something that's just always been in the back of your mind.

957
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 7: Like you said, you're not going to say you were

958
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 7: like carrying it around. It wasn't like in the forefront

959
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 7: you're carrying the shooting daggers every time you hear his

960
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 7: name or whatever. But it's somewhere in the back of

961
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 7: your mind that you're like, man, I that ended on

962
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 7: a note that made me feel like two years of

963
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 7: my life wasn't valued. And to actually get an apology like.

964
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: That is so nice, I know, and rare and rare

965
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: and I but also I think really speaks to you know, obviously,

966
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: like he is a person who is self reflective and

967
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: has you know, and had a moment where he was like,

968
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: oh wait, that wasn't maybe the kindest thing. Maybe I

969
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 4: should take ownership of that in a real way instead

970
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: of just like being nice to me every time he

971
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: sees me, you know, which is like, I think what

972
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: most people do, right, they're like, don't want this?

973
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: Actually a closure too? I mean that, Yeah, we had

974
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: that on our show.

975
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 6: I mean, Trina came on our podcast and somebody had

976
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 6: told because Trina wasn't in our last episode, and somebody

977
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: had told Trina that we as a cast went to

978
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 6: our producer and said we didn't want her in the episode,

979
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 6: which is completely untrue, and so she had been holding

980
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 6: onto that for twenty five and rightfully so.

981
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: And so when we talked about it, we were like wait, what.

982
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 5: What Yeah, because we didn't even know that.

983
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 6: We had no idea that this had that she had

984
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 6: been told this and so yeah, I mean it was

985
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 6: it had bothered her for decades and again rightfully, so

986
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 6: it made me feel less.

987
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Then, and it was nice to us to sit down

988
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: and be like, we had no.

989
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: This is the first one hearing that you had heard.

990
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was.

991
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: Why would somebody tell them say that to her?

992
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 5: I mean, I can reflect deflect for.

993
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: That's the correct But imagine, I mean imagine if we

994
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: did have that kind of power.

995
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: At that time we were so like clueless actors, like whuk,

996
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: what are we doing next week?

997
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: But if we had banded together and been like, let's

998
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: get rid of another cast member, no.

999
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 6: Weird thing to band again, Like we wouldn't be together

1000
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 6: to get money. We banded together to get have one

1001
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 6: cast member, not in one episode.

1002
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 4: Like it's yeah, it doesn't even make sense logically, No,

1003
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: it doesn't.

1004
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 7: But at the time, of course, the thing we've talked

1005
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 7: about so much is at the time they are relying

1006
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 7: on the idea that we are not communicating with each

1007
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 7: other about things that it's going to feel, yeah, that

1008
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: the actors are not that she wasn't going to come

1009
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 7: to us and say, why would you guys do this

1010
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 7: to me, and she didn't because he and the person

1011
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 7: who told her that knew she would probably not do

1012
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 7: that right, and we because it played.

1013
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: Right into her actor insecurity, which we all have. And like,

1014
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: that's the problem with being an actor is that you

1015
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: feel disposable and you feel like, you know, you're being

1016
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: asked to be a human being on camera and to

1017
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: bring all this authenticity and emotion, but it feels like

1018
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: it's just do you fit into the schedule?

1019
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 3: Can we pay you enough?

1020
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, and it's like it all diminishes your sense

1021
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: of self to you know, you're just like, I'm just

1022
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: a pawn and somebody in you know, Kevin Williamson's.

1023
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: Script, like I'm just like whatever.

1024
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: And of course what starts to happen is you start

1025
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: thinking that the people in charge never care about you,

1026
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: don't care about your feelings, even when you know they

1027
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: have their own stuff going on and they you know,

1028
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: who knows what the real situation is.

1029
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a machine.

1030
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 4: And I think because I had come from this experience

1031
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: on Freaks and Geeks where we really did feel valued

1032
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: and like, uh, and that you know, I think that

1033
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: one of the reasons why almost everyone from that show

1034
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 4: has gone on to be multi hyphenates and do all

1035
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 4: kinds of different things, myself included. Is because jud and

1036
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: Paul and Jake Kasden, who was our like directing producer, producer, director.

1037
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, there I go.

1038
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: Thank you really instilled in us, Like even though you

1039
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: guys are you know, I feel like Seth was sixteen,

1040
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: I think, or seventeen when we started the show. Martin

1041
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: Starr was like fourteen or fifteen. Even though you guys

1042
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: are like technically teenagers, your ideas are valuable. You're talented,

1043
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: and we want to know what you think about what

1044
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: we're bringing to you. They were always asking us, what

1045
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: do you think? Is this feel right? Is this like

1046
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: a thing that you would like a teenager would say? Anyway?

1047
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: I just, you know, feel like going from that experience

1048
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: and then feeling like, oh I really was not I

1049
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 4: don't really feel valued at all in this in this show,

1050
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 4: but it really gave me, you know, I don't know

1051
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: a roadmap for kind of how I would want to

1052
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: be treated on set, and then also what I am

1053
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: going to look for in collaborators and partners.

1054
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have so many iconic shows on your resume.

1055
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 6: If you could go back and do one episode of

1056
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 6: any one of the shows again, which one would you pick?

1057
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: Well?

1058
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: Is this is really? It's Girls five EVA for sure,

1059
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: because I just love the show so much and I

1060
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: know it sort of just ended, but I really miss

1061
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: it and.

1062
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: That shows so funny.

1063
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: I just think it's that's going to be another one

1064
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 4: where people are going to find it. Yeah, and then

1065
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: in like two years are going to be as to

1066
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: why there's not more of them. I just loved that

1067
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: show so much and I love doing it. We had

1068
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 4: the best time.

1069
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 5: Are there any movies or TV shows that you got

1070
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: close on that still haunt you?

1071
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: Nothing haunts me?

1072
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: Okay, healthy Kevin Williamson.

1073
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: No, yeah, right, but not anymore. That's that we close

1074
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: the loop. That's loop has when closed. But what are

1075
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: some things that I tested for that I didn't get?

1076
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: There was a TV show that I tested for, but

1077
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: then I got Dawson's Creek. See this is why I'm like,

1078
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: nothing haunts me, like it always is fine, Like you

1079
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 4: know we've all been We've all been doing this long enough,

1080
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like it really is true

1081
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: that your career is your career, and so not getting

1082
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: jobs while in the moment like that, rejection can be devastating,

1083
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: especially if you get really close on something. Ultimately, I

1084
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 4: have just found that it has always worked in my favor,

1085
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: even even the fact that like at the time I

1086
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: was doing the movie White Chicks and could audition for

1087
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: and White Chicks was pushing their production like we kept

1088
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: we pushed, so like we were going longer than we

1089
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: were supposed to be going. So I couldn't audition for

1090
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: Mean Girls the movie, and I was like devastated because

1091
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: I really wanted to be in that movie obviously, and guys,

1092
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 4: guess was in the Mean Girls movie. But you know

1093
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I couldn't have been the mom

1094
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Speaker 4: in the new Mean Girls movie, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's just like everything works out, everything works out, and

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Speaker 4: White Chicks is like the most iconic movie that I've

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Speaker 4: ever done.

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Speaker 7: So I was going to ask you, with everything you've done,

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Speaker 7: how many people come up to you and want to

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Speaker 7: talk about White Chicks?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's everyone, no joke, at least at least

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Speaker 4: five times a week. I'm not I'm not an exaggeration.

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Speaker 4: Someone will say something to me about white Chicks five

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: times a week, Like it's crazy and everywhere in the

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Speaker 4: world that's like.

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Speaker 5: That's so cool.

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Speaker 4: It's quite it's actually just like okay, I mean wow,

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Speaker 4: had no idea at the time, but I love it.

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Speaker 4: It's really funny.

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Speaker 7: You also currently host Busy This Week on QVC plus,

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Speaker 7: a place I pop up with my own hair care product.

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Speaker 7: I love QVC. I'm there many times a year. Tell

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Speaker 7: our listeners a little bit about your show.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, so you know, I had a late night

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Speaker 4: talk show on E for a year in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 4: to twenty nineteen, and when it got canceled, I was

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00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: really bummed because we had a great time and I

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Speaker 4: just loved doing a late night talk show. And I

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: have long felt the inequality of not having women be

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Speaker 4: the hosts of these shows or given you know, longer

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Speaker 4: than whatever a year to find an audience. And so

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Speaker 4: Casey saint Ande, my producing partner on that show, and

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Speaker 4: I really were trying to figure out, like, how do

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Speaker 4: we do another one? Where are we going to go?

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Speaker 4: And we were kind of building to something, and then

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Speaker 4: the pandemic happened, and so we pivoted and we did

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Speaker 4: our podcast for over five years, and then at a

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Speaker 4: certain point QVC had come to me to do a

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Speaker 4: little like holiday special thing for them, and in that

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Speaker 4: process Casey I asked Casey to come do it with me.

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Speaker 4: And in that process we learned that they were going

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Speaker 4: to launch their own streaming network and they were looking

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00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: for they didn't really know what they were looking for,

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 4: but they were thinking they were going to have more

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Speaker 4: original content and not just twenty four hour shopping content,

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00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: that it would be different. So we were like, well,

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Speaker 4: why don't we just do my talk show there. Let's

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Speaker 4: just do the talk show there. And they went for it,

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Speaker 4: and this is We've done two seasons. We've had a

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Speaker 4: great time. It's a talk show. You know, we have

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: incredible guests. Rosie O'Donnell was amazing. You got to come

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Speaker 4: beyond it.

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Speaker 5: I would not to please.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she was talking about you also on qv She

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00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: was clearly speaking to me and you instantly.

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Speaker 7: I will tell you, I don't think you guys speak

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Speaker 7: to the QVC audience.

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Speaker 4: I mean not know, not no, not no, sure, not no. Wow.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I can speak to any audience, Thank

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: you very much.

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 4: I I think that's he's not right. I think that's right.

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: I think that's right.

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: He's not wrong.

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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: Feels right to me. I don't know if it is,

1155
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 4: but it.

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00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 5: Feels real right, it feels good. That feels good.

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Speaker 2: Writers just quiet. He's like, I'm not I would never

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Speaker 2: be on any show.

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Speaker 3: Uh and QVC audience don't understand, so I probably not.

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Speaker 4: Probably why don't you like to be on talk shows?

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Speaker 1: I'm really bad at on camera being myself, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: just a horrible famous person, Like, I just don't.

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Speaker 4: You're on camera right now being yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's audio mostly second clips. Yeah, I'm in

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: my house. It's fine. No, I just I'm not. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't do well in those situations. I always look

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: like I'm being held.

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Speaker 6: I'll be like, I'll be like, ladies and gentlemen, you

1169
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 6: only got thirty minutes left to buy righters strong.

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Speaker 2: I can't even believe he's.

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Speaker 5: Not good whippy. He's not a quippy person.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I don't work in sound bite its well correct, and even.

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Speaker 5: The idea of like the pre show interview were like

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 5: trying to what's what's the quick funny story you're going

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 5: to tell? Like that pressure on it.

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Speaker 7: It's like, oh god, no, he just right from the

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Speaker 7: beginning there's a lot of anxiety, and he's just like,

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Speaker 7: I don't need that.

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Speaker 3: Nope, I kind.

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Speaker 4: Of understand that.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to see it. I want to see

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Speaker 2: Rider on every talk show.

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I get uncomfortable just watching talk shows, Like I can't

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Speaker 1: handle it.

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Speaker 3: I don't watch interviews and talk shows.

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Speaker 1: That's why I know nothing about famous people, even people

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Speaker 1: I really love their work. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 1: the personal life because the second I'm watching an interview,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, God, get me a way, like I

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00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: just not my not my style.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's I think there's something to that, And

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Speaker 4: I think it also speaks to when you watch men

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Speaker 4: who are comedians interview people that is actually like there

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 4: is a lot of pressure because what you see is

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: them searching for their joke and they're not actually listening

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Speaker 4: and a lot of the times but well, but I really,

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Speaker 4: I really, in my experience, why I wanted to do

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Speaker 4: a talk show was first of all, because I was

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Speaker 4: sick of the fact that there were no women that

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Speaker 4: had them, but also, and specifically late night, because there's

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Speaker 4: this whole you know, like deeply rooted in the misogyny

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: and the patriarchy that like women can only have daytime

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 4: talk shows because that's when women are home doing the laundry,

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01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: like you know from back in the day, and like

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: men go to their jobs and then they need to

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Speaker 4: relax with their scotch and watch how they don't want

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Speaker 4: to help. Not a woman.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to hear a woman talk at night.

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Speaker 4: But it's so just it's literally what it was, what

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: it was based, what it's been based in.

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Speaker 2: And to fight.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Joan Rivers was the top comedian of the

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 6: day and she had she never got it and never

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Speaker 6: got it. She was she could guess and that was it.

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Speaker 5: The closest with Chelsea Lately.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Chelsea had years and she had such an

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Speaker 4: amazing run and then but then you look at it

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Speaker 4: and you're like, that's one one woman.

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Speaker 6: There's somebody else had one last, last one last year

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Speaker 6: and they just cancel a comedian.

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Speaker 2: She's so funny. I can't think of her name.

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Speaker 4: Well, Amber Ruffin had like that late night talk show

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Speaker 4: thing after you're thinking of Taylor, Mom, Taylor at midnight

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Speaker 4: Taylor Tomlinson, but at midnight's a game show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's also like she's the best.

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Speaker 4: She's so funny. But it also is a game show,

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Speaker 4: not actually a late night talk show, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. Anyway, my point being writer, my favorite guest,

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Speaker 4: part of the reason why I wanted to do it

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Speaker 4: is because I fully feel you on that And like,

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Speaker 4: my favorite guest from the E Talk Show was Dan

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Speaker 4: Radcliffe because he showed up and he was literally like you,

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Speaker 4: He was like, this isn't for me. I'm not like,

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Speaker 4: I don't like this. Da da da da weird at

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Speaker 4: the end of it, like he like didn't want to leave.

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Speaker 4: It was it was like, actually amazing to see the

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 4: transition because I just was like, I'll just talk to

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Speaker 4: you about.

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01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 5: Like what you like, what.

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Speaker 2: Does he really have magic powers?

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: He was really wonderful see magical magic and he's super talented.

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01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, very busy.

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Speaker 7: My last question for you is if you could go

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 7: back in time and tell young Busy Phillips on the

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 7: Freaks and Geeks set, just one thing, what would you

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01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 7: tell her?

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01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 4: My god, this is the second time someone has like

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: asked me this question this week, and I have no answer.

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01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: And you would think, since I've already been asked it,

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01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: that I would have come up with something, But the

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01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 4: truth is I don't know if you guys feel this way.

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 4: I just am sort of like, first of all, there

1255
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: was nothing that I could ever tell that girl, do

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01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, listened, not even a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Would she have listened. She would have been like, Okay,

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 4: old lady, fine, and I.

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Speaker 3: Love that your voice.

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01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's.

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Speaker 5: Like what my voice for my nineteen year old self

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01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 5: is as well. Yeah.

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 4: Well, and now I have this seventeen year old mini

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 4: me that is it's a real vibe. Guy is watching

1265
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: her on camera because I'm like, it is a little

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: bit of a mine. I mean, honestly, like just crazy,

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: but yeah, I kind of feel I've thought a lot

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: about it, and like I don't think there's anything that

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 4: I could tell her that would change anything or change

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01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 4: her way of thinking. I mean, maybe get diagnosed with

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 4: ADHD sooner, Okay, I mean honestly, because I think I've

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Speaker 4: spent a lot of time feeling really terrible about my

1273
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: brain and then in my late thirties was diagnosed with

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01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 4: ADHD and I was like, oh, now it all makes sense,

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: So maybe that what about that? Yeah, like your brain

1276
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 4: is fine, You're not stupid. Where just you have executive

1277
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 4: organizational functioning skills that you need to work on.

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01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 5: Right, so smart.

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 7: Honestly, that is probably one of the things that would

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01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 7: help you change your life and right it's very practical.

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 4: That's probably. That's probably anything else I think I would

1282
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 4: have been like, yeah, I know it's gonna work whatever.

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 5: I know everything. You know nothing.

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01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 7: I don't know if you know this, but I am eighteen.

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01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 7: I know everything. Yeah, that's I totally get that.

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 5: Busy. Thank you so much for being here.

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, I love the pod.

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Speaker 3: Have a good one bye.

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