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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in, Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football

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Speaker 2: Saturday Ertors Jayson Martin. We are broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes, we are live eleven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern Time. We got two NFL games in the books,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco and Seattle just went final Carolina and Tampa

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Speaker 2: earlier in the day, Jay mart we get to talk

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Speaker 2: a lot of college football in this show, but I

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Speaker 2: think we're gonna be pretty NFL heavy this evening. My man,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: How are you just like I'm good man that just

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Speaker 3: like we all drew it up at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the season, Sam Darnold number one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Number one seed in the NFC, and go, how about

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Speaker 2: this going into a win for the number one seed

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Speaker 2: in week eighteen. You know, you can't say he was

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Speaker 2: like amazing, but it was certainly better than last year.

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Speaker 2: Gets Detroit in the same spot. First of all, it's

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Speaker 2: great to be with you. Second of all, I did

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Speaker 2: mention we do talk a lot of college football. Jason

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Speaker 2: and I were on for were in excuse me for

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon on New year's night four

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Speaker 2: hours of wall to wall college football. So if you

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Speaker 2: missed any of that content, or if you just want

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Speaker 2: some college football, find the Jason Smith and Mike Harmon

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Speaker 2: Show from Thursday night. We were on air during that

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Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl thriller. Old Miss Wins obviously talked the other

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Speaker 2: three quarterfinal games in the College Football Playoff Jason and

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Speaker 2: Mike Thursday Night, make sure to check it out. But tonight,

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Speaker 2: j Mart, let's start exactly what you where and with

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Speaker 2: what you just said. Number one seed on the line,

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Speaker 2: NFC West on the line again. A year ago, Sam

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Speaker 2: Darnold in the same situation winner gets the number one

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Speaker 2: seed in Week eighteen, did not go well against Detroit,

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Speaker 2: certainly went much better. Tonight. Seattle goes to San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and wins thirteen to three. Like I said, I don't

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Speaker 2: think you could say Sam Donald played great, but part

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Speaker 2: of it was you're on the road, you're playing a

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Speaker 2: division rival. But he certainly played well enough. Twenty of

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Speaker 2: twenty six, one hundred and ninety eight yards, no touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: but no crucial mistakes. The Seattle Seahawks win. They are

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Speaker 2: your not only NFC West champs, but again the number

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Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC. Take it away, j Martin.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, it was impressive that Seattle defense just

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Speaker 3: kept San Francisco in checked. Most of the night, Party,

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Speaker 3: who had come off maybe the two best games of

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Speaker 3: his career, just couldn't get anything going. Even McCaffrey couldn't

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Speaker 3: get anything going. They shut down Kittle, They did everything

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Speaker 3: that you would want. They put Sam Darnold in a

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Speaker 3: position where it wasn't all on his shoulders, and that's

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Speaker 3: really all they had to do in this case. The

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Speaker 3: offense didn't have to go out and score forty. He

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Speaker 3: didn't even have to go out and score twenty to

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Speaker 3: win this game. So yeah, the games tonight, the whatever

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Speaker 3: that was in the NFC South in the Monsoon, neither

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Speaker 3: game featured a team that scored twenty points. And yet

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Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks are very much one of those teams

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Speaker 3: that you look at and you're just like, man, they

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Speaker 3: may not get to the Super Bowl, but it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be easy to beat them because they they have

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Speaker 3: some multi they have multiple ways they can beat you.

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Speaker 3: They can run it again, that's gonna help Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: as well. But Jackson Smith and Jigba catches everything that

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Speaker 3: is within I would say a ten foot radius around him.

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Speaker 3: It seems like he's gonna make the play. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: bail out Donald, if Donald's a little high, if Donald's

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Speaker 3: they have some dudes, and they they are playing with

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of confidence. And throughout this season, I've

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Speaker 3: been waiting to see the skyfall on this team and

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Speaker 3: it has not happened yet. And you look around the

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Speaker 3: rest of the NFC and you're like, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how I feel about Philadelphia. San Francisco is a team

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Speaker 3: that I like, but I'm not quite sure about what

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Speaker 3: they're going to do in the playoffs. The Rams are

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Speaker 3: going to have to go on the road. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how I feel about that. The Bears have never

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Speaker 3: here feeling pretty good, not just the being the one seed,

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Speaker 3: but they're actually kind of built to be a really

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Speaker 2: Well that was kind of my thought too, And you know,

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Speaker 2: curtain we were planning on doing. And I think there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be too much to talk about but we were

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Speaker 2: think you can absolutely make the argument that, certainly with

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Speaker 2: Kco Josh Allen banged up all of the variables that

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Speaker 2: we know that are at play. I think you can

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Speaker 2: argue the group of teams that could hypothetically win it

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Speaker 2: seems to be much bigger than it has been in

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Speaker 2: recent years. But I think you can also argue that Seattle, well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily wasn't necessarily the team that we were

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Speaker 2: all expecting in the preseason. They look the part man,

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Speaker 2: you know, they really do. Sam Darnold right now, not

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Speaker 2: making mistakes at the quarterback position. The one thing that

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Speaker 2: stood out to me, you know, felt like the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks ran the ball very effectively today, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty yards on the ground, four and a half yards

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Speaker 2: I think the other variable is, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 2: who do you feel confident is going to go to

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Speaker 2: team that just lost to them in the same exact spot,

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Speaker 2: only in San Francisco. Do you trust the Eagles, who

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Speaker 2: you don't know what you're gonna get out a day

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Speaker 2: to day, week to week basis Chicago, who not only

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Speaker 2: again have to go on the road in a high

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Speaker 2: leverage playoff situation. So yet, you know, it's not just

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Speaker 2: that they want to get the number one seed, it's

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Speaker 2: that it really does feel like this Seattle team, which

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Speaker 2: has now won six games in a row, their last

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Speaker 2: at the right time. They now get not only a bye,

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Speaker 2: just the number one seed, but in a wide open

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Speaker 2: the top five to six teams, having that home field advantage,

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Speaker 2: having the week off I think is going to serve them.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no question, And I mean again, it's just

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Speaker 3: pressure on Darnold. The crowd's going to be with him.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's not gonna face a real hostile environment.

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Speaker 3: We already know how difficult it is to win in

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Speaker 3: will say, people are going to think I'm an idiot

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Speaker 3: for saying this out lot. Oh no, but I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about this all night long. If I'm in a

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Speaker 3: regular uniforms.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, at home too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I like they look good. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying they look bad. I just want everything to

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Speaker 3: that they're looking at it and they're like, like, it

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Speaker 3: just looks different. The optics are different. When I'm looking

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Speaker 3: these uniforms, I don't know that. I don't know that

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Speaker 3: this is the night where I'm gonna go all artistic

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Speaker 3: out there and do this. And again, the uniforms were interesting,

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Speaker 3: and maybe this was all decided long ago, and I

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Speaker 3: get all that, But if if the division is on

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Speaker 3: the line, I'm gonna wear the usual duds so that

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Speaker 3: my quarterback sees what he's used to seeing. Everybody on

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Speaker 3: is just not the week where I would have pulled

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Speaker 2: That's just it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You may think that's insane, but that's just something I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about. It's just like, I want things to

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Speaker 3: and your rock party and you haven't seen these jerseys

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Speaker 3: all season long, and now you're throwing the guys wearing them,

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Speaker 3: and they're wearing darker helmets, everything about it. I just

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Speaker 3: I would want everything to feel just as normal and

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Speaker 2: Very that's actually a very interesting theory that I had

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Speaker 2: not really thought about. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I have any really strong takes

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Speaker 2: the lawn and I didn't know this is where we

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Speaker 2: were going to potentially go. You know, alternate uniforms do

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Speaker 2: feel a little gimmicky. I'm just gonna say it, like right,

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Speaker 2: and you think about it, it's like, okay, it's either

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Speaker 2: I forget what Thursday night game I was watching the

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Speaker 3: The Patriots game when they were wearing the whites.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was like, I was just thinking about

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Speaker 2: chebre remember remember color Rush jerseys and that was oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was like a Thursday night think and it was

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Speaker 2: it was four Thursdays and I was like, I'm so

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Speaker 2: glad we don't do that anymore. And so to your point,

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Speaker 2: the all blacks when you have the very what's the

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Speaker 2: right word, historic isn't the right word, but it's like

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Speaker 2: you wear the red and gold when you are the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers in San Francisco. Again, it

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Speaker 2: probably means nothing. And maybe everyone's gonna call me an

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Speaker 2: say alternate uniforms do feel a little gimmicky. By the way,

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Speaker 2: whenever you wear black for a big game, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like that weird you know you're going to your

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's an interesting point. It's not why

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Speaker 2: San Francisco lost the game thirteen years no, no, no, it's

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Speaker 3: Want everything to feel routine for brock Perdy. Like if

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Speaker 3: I'm a San Francisco fan, I want him to see

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Speaker 3: what he has seen all season long. I don't think

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Speaker 3: if you looked at the numbers, even the font was

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Speaker 3: different on the numbers, like everything about it just looked different.

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Speaker 3: And that would irritate me as a quarterback. Even if

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Speaker 3: it's a split mill to second, it would take just

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Speaker 3: a little bit longer to process, at least early in

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Speaker 3: like this. Again, that's not why they lost, but it's

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Speaker 3: just something that bothered me the whole game. It's just like,

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Speaker 3: why would you do that tonight? Did you have to

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Speaker 3: do that tonight? If you're gonna do it, do it

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Speaker 3: week ten. Don't do it with the division on the line,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Jmark just tell America.

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Speaker 2: You know Alex Sischert is working tours in Martin. When

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Speaker 3: Jmart when Everybody wants to Rule the world, brings us

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Speaker 3: look at a guy like Raheem Morris and what the

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Speaker 3: Falcons were expected to do. That's a huge disappointment for

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Speaker 3: them and a division that when you really get down

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Speaker 3: to it, they could have won just based on the

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Speaker 3: record alone. And I think it's kind of amazing that

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, after beating Carolina now has to kind of

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Speaker 3: just sit there and become the biggest Tyler shuck fans.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, imaginable, we all talk in order to find

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Speaker 3: their way kind of back door into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable what is given where we where. This

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Speaker 2: was early in the season with Baker Mayfield. We were

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Speaker 2: talking about him as a potential MVP candidate and this

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Speaker 2: team in general. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that I

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Speaker 2: have a ton other than this. Neither team is playing well.

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Speaker 2: Tampa had lost four straight coming into today. Carolina has

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Speaker 2: now lost three of four after today. I think you

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Speaker 2: and I talked about this a little bit when we

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Speaker 2: were filled in for Jason and Mike the other night.

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Speaker 2: I think Tampa, probably because of Baker, gives you the

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Speaker 2: best chance to hypothetically pull off an upset. But I

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Speaker 2: don't feel very good about either of these teams. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: somebody's got to win the division. Yeah, I really don't

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Speaker 2: have much else. I'd love to for our listeners in Tampa,

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Speaker 2: Bay and Charlotte. I'd love to give you, you know,

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Speaker 2: another hour of breakdown. I don't think even you guys

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Speaker 2: necessarily want that, but anything else before we move on

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Speaker 2: to the rest of what's what we're gonna see at

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Speaker 2: Week eight Team.

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think that pretty much covers the

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Speaker 3: events of the afternoon. It was definitely a football game

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Speaker 3: that was played on Saturday and a team won it,

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Speaker 3: and we'll find out whether or not that team ends

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Speaker 3: up in the playoffs or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, one of them is again Tampa needing New

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Speaker 2: Orleans to beat Atlanta on Sunday. If Atlanta wins, the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers will be your NFC champs. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Ertoris Jason Martin, broadcasting from the Fox Sports Radio Studios,

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Speaker 2: should mention a lot of games with impact and meeting

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Speaker 2: We will look ahead to Week eighteen some of the

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Speaker 2: games of significance, especially that Sunday night game in the

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Speaker 2: AFC North. Before we do that, let's get it over

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Speaker 2: the news desk Stave de Seger. What is trending?

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Speaker 6: By the way, hey, there the Rams schedule this year.

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Speaker 6: They did in back to back weeks, played Tampa Bay

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Speaker 6: and Carolina killed the Bucks and then somehow lost at

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Speaker 6: the Panthers not that long ago. It could be the

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Speaker 6: Rams moving up to the five seed and playing at

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Speaker 6: Tampa Bay or Carolina in the first round of the

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Speaker 6: playoffs next weekend. And you mentioned Rico Dowdell, the running

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Speaker 6: back for Carolina in this loss at Tampa Bay. Going

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Speaker 6: into the game he needed seven yards from scrimmage for

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Speaker 6: a million dollar bonus in his contract because it would

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Speaker 6: put him over thirteen fifty from scrimmage for the season.

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Speaker 6: He had, as you mentioned, seven carries ten yards rushing.

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Speaker 6: He did have two catches for twenty yards, so bonus

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Speaker 6: achieved and a good take on the uniforms. San Francisco

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Speaker 6: was wearing the all blacks you mentioned in segment one.

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Speaker 6: For the record, it was August when the forty nine

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Speaker 6: Ers unveiled these alternate uniforms, saying, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 6: wear these down the road part of the Nike Rivalries

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Speaker 6: uniform series, which apparently eight total NFL teams are in on.

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Speaker 6: But they did announce when they said we're wearing these

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Speaker 6: that were not debuting them until the final game of

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Speaker 6: the season against Seattle. Who knew, especially as the season

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Speaker 6: went along with all the Niners injuries, that this game

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Speaker 6: would be the game for the NFC's number one seed,

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Speaker 6: which Seattle loans the NFC West champions. Seattle finished eight

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Speaker 6: to one on the road this season after the win

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Speaker 6: at San Francisco tonight to three, a fourteen and three

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Speaker 6: record for the Seahawks this regular season. Kenneth Walker sixteen

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Speaker 6: carries ninety seven yards at Tampa Bay in the rain,

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Speaker 6: the Bucks beat Carolina sixteen to fourteen. Each team finishes

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Speaker 6: eight and nine. The Bucks will win the NFC South

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Speaker 6: if Atlanta loses on Sunday. If Atlanta wins Sunday, Carolina

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Speaker 6: takes the division. Quarterback Drew Mestemaker committed to Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 6: transferring from North Texas to go where his head coach

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Speaker 6: just went in the NBA. Seventy six Ers won at

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Speaker 6: New York won thirty to one nineteen Tyrese Maxi another

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Speaker 6: thirty six points. At Dallas, Mavericks ended a four game

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Speaker 6: losing streak, beating the Rockets one ten, one oh four

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Speaker 6: despite thirty four points from Kevin Durant. Houston star center

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Speaker 6: Alpa and Shnguon left early with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 3: There are just.

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Speaker 6: Two late games at Golden State, Utah, and the lead

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Speaker 6: early third quarter against the Warriors seventy four to sixty eight.

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Speaker 6: Steph Curry returned. He did not play Friday due to

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Speaker 6: an ankle injury. Curry has fourteen points. Jimmy Butler back

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Speaker 6: in the lineup, he has nine points. Warriors trail at

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Speaker 6: home in the third and they're just about to go

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Speaker 6: to halftime in LA. The Celtics are leading the Clippers

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Speaker 6: sixty nine sixty three. On to college basketball, SMU defeated

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Speaker 6: number twelve North Carolina ninety seven eighty three. UCF upset Kansas.

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Speaker 6: Arkansas beat Tennessee, Missouri, a winner over number twenty two

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Speaker 6: Florida tonight seventy six seventy four. In the NHL. Another

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Speaker 6: Colorado victory five to three at Carolina. Tampa Bay won

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Speaker 6: seven three at San Jose, and Columbus ended the Buffalo

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Speaker 6: Sabers ten game winning streak five to one. Minnesota has

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Speaker 6: tied it at LA. It's four to four late in regulation.

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Speaker 6: The Toronto Blue Jays are signing Japanese third baseman Kazuma Okamoto,

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Speaker 6: reported lead to a four year deal. Once again. Seattle

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Speaker 6: is the one seed in the NFC. It was a

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Speaker 6: dominant victory. If you didn't see it, you probably see

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Speaker 6: the final score thirteen to three.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Pretty only on the scoreboard was this close. In fact,

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Speaker 6: there was a stat The Niners just in the first

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Speaker 6: half had eight misstackles according to Pro Football forcus and

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks defense had none in the first half. Brock

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Speaker 6: Purty in the first half attempted only one pass thrown

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Speaker 6: beyond five yards, and so the Niners when trailing at

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Speaker 6: halftime have lost nine of ten amazingly under this coach

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Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan, when down seven points or more at the half,

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Speaker 6: the Niners record is three and thirty, including tonight lose

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Speaker 6: by ten. Back to you, thank you very much, Steve

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Speaker 6: de Seger.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Tours,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to Jason Diamond who said

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Speaker 2: Apple Bottom Jeens actually came out in October eight. It

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Speaker 2: was the remake of Low, which came out in October

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Speaker 2: of seven. Torres nailed it with his music trivia. I

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Speaker 2: knew it was a fall of eight because I knew

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Speaker 2: where I was and what was going on in my

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Speaker 2: life at that time. He also asked us, what is

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Speaker 2: our takeaway from Mark Davis saying this roster is a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender next season. I'll tell you what, JAMRT

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Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we'll come back and talk

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby and the Raiders. First, really quick, we had

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Speaker 2: two games with playoff and seeding implication on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: very quickly, and we'll preview this game more in depth later.

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Speaker 2: But actually, let me ask you this before we even

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Speaker 2: get to it. Your Denver Broncos clinch the number one

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Speaker 2: overall seed in the AFC on Sunday with a win

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Speaker 2: over the Los Angeles Chargers. Chargers, we know, the deal

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Speaker 2: totally banged up. Obviously. The Chargers actually could have been

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Speaker 2: in position to win the division and potentially the number

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Speaker 2: one seed, but they lost last Saturday to the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Any concern, any fear, any worries about this game in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily. I just want to see this team look

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Speaker 3: good for four quarters. I don't want to see it

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Speaker 3: be a cardiac kind of performance. I mean, you're in

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Speaker 3: a situation where you win, you're the number one seed.

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Speaker 3: You lose, the New England wins, they're the number one seed.

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Speaker 3: If both those two teams lose, Jacksonville's.

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Speaker 2: The number one crazy, right, unreal?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you know, there's just there have

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Speaker 3: been some moments of inconsistency for this Denver team. I

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Speaker 3: want to see them finish the regular season strong because

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Speaker 3: then you're not going to play for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: and you know, with the Chargers in the scenario that

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Speaker 3: they're in, you should be able to win this football game.

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Speaker 3: If you're Denver, you just don't want to go out

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Speaker 3: there and lay in egg early, put yourself in a hole.

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Speaker 3: Make it interesting. Like I kind of want this to

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Speaker 3: just be one of those boring games where a one

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Speaker 3: seed goes out there and dominates whoever they're playing, whoever

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Speaker 3: the Chargers put out there on the field.

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Speaker 2: What about Sunday Night? Obviously, Pittsburgh Baltimore. Lamar Jackson will

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Speaker 2: be back. Obviously, you and I were on air during

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Speaker 2: the Ravens win over the Packers last week, which obviously

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Speaker 2: didn't even necessarily set up winner for the AFC North title.

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Speaker 2: Last week, obviously we needed the Cleveland Browns to beat

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, which they did Pittsburgh with no DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Ravens take care business against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do. No Metcalf just kind of a reeling

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Speaker 3: Steelers team. Obviously the Ravens are not firing, But I

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Speaker 3: just feel like Lamar's going to go in and have

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Speaker 3: a game. I think that everything that he has dealt

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Speaker 3: with this season, I just kind of since he's gonna

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Speaker 3: go out there and play well, maybe the only time

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Speaker 3: he does it all season long, because he's not the same.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like he hasn't been healthy all year long.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what his headspace is. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what the relationship is with him and the coaching staff

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Speaker 3: at present, but I think a mixture of him and

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Speaker 3: another performance by Derrick Henry. The Pittsburgh defense hasn't been

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Speaker 3: great against the run throughout much of the year, so

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Speaker 3: you've got Lamar Are whatever he's capable of doing from

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Speaker 3: a running perspective, but Derek Henry's coming off of a

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Speaker 3: I like the mixture there. And I mean, maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: a little biased in this case, but Baltimore was my

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Speaker 3: pick to win the Super Bowl, so it's kind of

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Speaker 3: hard for me to just bail out when they have

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to make the playoffs, despite the fact that

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Speaker 3: I don't like either one of them once we get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs. But I just feel like the Steelers

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Speaker 3: have been trending towards being out of this thing, and

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Speaker 3: at the very least, I look at Baltimore and I

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Speaker 3: look at Lamar coming back, and it just feels like

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Speaker 3: one of those games. Now TJ's gonna play as well,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be out for blood. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: I expect a very physical game, probably a really entertaining game,

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Speaker 3: and also probably a very low scoring game.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what Jason did ask us about the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, and it is certainly an interesting time in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: The Max Crosby situation takes a new turn. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: that next Erra Tours. Jason Martin, Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Radio, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aeron Tours. Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Not trying

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Speaker 2: to be funny this song. It actually brings back a

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Speaker 2: lot of good memories. If that makes me uh a

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Speaker 2: weird A weirdo, just makes me a child of the

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Speaker 2: uh the early two thousands as far as when I

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Speaker 2: was coming of age as a young man. J mart

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00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: We could go down the Torres early two thousands nostalgia

649
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: tour all night, But not a lot of nostalgia in

650
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas right now with the Raiders. Raiders stink in

651
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: position to get the number one pick after the Giants

652
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: of course beat them in Vegas last week. And I

653
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: would just ask you, there's obviously a lot going on

654
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: right now, but but you know, in addition, obviously the

655
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's future, and we'll get all to get to

656
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: that in an hour two. It is, of course the

657
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: future of Max Crosby. We know the situation. Wanted to

658
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: play Pete Carroll, wanted to let him keep playing. The

659
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: team basically set him out, and Diana Orsini basically reporting that,

660
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: you know, teams are kind of operating right now under

661
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: the assumption that he could potentially be available here during

662
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: the offseason. Just your quick thoughts on this situation. It's

663
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: clear he wants to stay. I actually got even say this,

664
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Speaker 2: and it's kind of the same with the Miles Garrett thing.

665
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: I understand being loyal, yeah, but you know, it's like

666
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: it's funny right Like in the NBA. I will readily

667
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: admit that I was one that complained when guys would

668
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: jump from team to team and James Harden would play

669
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: for four teams in six years whatever. But I almost

670
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: think with some of these guys in the NFL, there's

671
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: too much loyalty, where like Max Crosby. I get what

672
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: that organization means to you. Dude, you got another two

673
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: three years of your prime left, you know. I think

674
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: he's approaching thirty years old right, like, he doesn't have

675
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: a thirty year career that he can just grind it out.

676
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: I understand him wanting to stay. I get all that,

677
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: but I also just feel like, dude, you got a

678
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: small window to do special things in this sport. I

679
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: think it's crazy that he so adamantly wants to say.

680
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Speaker 2: I thought it was crazy that Miles Garrett wasn't, you

681
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Speaker 2: know what, was willing to stay in Cleveland last offseason.

682
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Speaker 2: Just big picture your thoughts on the state of things

683
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Speaker 2: with with Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think that at this point, he's

685
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: already proven what a great player he is, and his

686
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: story is incredible. What he dealt with and then to

687
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: come back from that just a definite winning kind of

688
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: story for a losing kind of franchise, yep, And that's

689
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: frustrating to watch. He's a Hall of Fame level player

690
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: who's never even come close to sniffing anything that matters

691
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: when it comes to the postseason and being able to

692
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: make it to play in a Super Bowl, And I

693
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: think that as you get a little bit older, loyalty.

694
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: I think he's already proven that loyalty. Like I don't

695
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: think that there were a lot of hard feelings when

696
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: it was time for Matthew Stafford to become a ram

697
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: yep and leave that lion's dumpster fire, which of course

698
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: it's not what it was at that point, but we

699
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: all know what it used to be. Yes, it was horrifying.

700
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Speaker 3: So you look at all of those things, It's like, Max,

701
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: go play for a contender and go do what your

702
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: football skills, your effort, your energy level, all the stuff

703
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: that you do, go do it in a situation that matters,

704
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: because that's the only thing that's left in your career.

705
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: You don't have to prove anything to anybody. And I

706
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: can't imagine Raiders fans being too upsessed like you gave

707
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: them absolutely everything, And I think at this point you

708
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: should make it about you. Like at this point, it's like,

709
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Speaker 3: what do I want to do? What do I want

710
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: to ACCOMPLI what's out there for me? What's left for

711
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: me to do? Go join a team that has a

712
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 3: chance to win a championship that could use my skills,

713
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: in a way that gets them closer to a chip.

714
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: And that's what I want to see him do, because

715
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: he's just gonna end up being a guy that retires.

716
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: He's going to be an all time great raider, but

717
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: he's gonna have nothing to show for it except just

718
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: what we all saw in terms of what he was

719
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Speaker 3: as an individual on the football field.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. We don't have much time

721
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: left in the hour, but you know, in the NBA,

722
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: I do think there's something to derk Noovitski only playing

723
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: for one organization. You know, whoever, Kobe Bryant, the late

724
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant only playing for one organization unless you're a quarterback,

725
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: and even quarterbacks. Peyton Manning, like nobody takes away what

726
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: he did in Indye because he went to Denver, like

727
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Tom Brady has already been celebrated in New England. It's

728
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: just again, I get it. I just don't feel like

729
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: with football player there's as much of a you know,

730
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: it really means something to start and finish your career

731
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: with one organization.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think is that fair?

733
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: Like is that a fair thing to say?

734
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? It is. I mean, look, it's a it's a

735
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: great thing. It's also a rare thing, but it at

736
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: this point in time, I just don't think it matters

737
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: the way that it once did. And if you've been

738
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: somewhere for long enough, here's the thing we already know. Max,

739
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: if you stay with that organization, you're not gonna be

740
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: in a super Bowl. They're just not a good organization.

741
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Maybe Brady's gonna help turn it around, but it's gone

742
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: in the wrong direction over the last year or so.

743
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: It's just nothing that they've done has worked out. You

744
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: at this point need to go somewhere that actually matches

745
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: your skills an organization because you can't win a championship. Max,

746
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: like you, yourself as one of eleven on the defense, are

747
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: not gonna win a championship. You're just not. There's not

748
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: You have to have more good players than the Raiders

749
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: currently do. You look at brock Bowers and you say,

750
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: man Bowers is all he could be an all time

751
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: great tight end. That's right. He's still new in his career,

752
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: so he can continue to be a Raider for a

753
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: little while longer. But for Max Crosby, it's time to

754
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: go somewhere else. It's not that they've disrespected him or

755
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: treated him poorly. He's just never been surrounded with talent

756
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: that could win a championship. And there are teams out

757
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: there that would crawl over broken glass to have a

758
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: guy like him on their defense, to go with a

759
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: high power to offense where they're a piece or two

760
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: away from being a legit contender, or maybe they're already

761
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: a contender, and he puts you over the top. I

762
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: mean von Miller eventually left. Everybody eventually leaves, and I

763
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: don't think that it's the betrayal that it used to

764
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: be seen as.

765
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just think especially in football, one because

766
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: the windows so small. But two, I think when you're

767
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: with a losing organization, like you said, I think the

768
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: fans would understand. I understand what the organization means to you.

769
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: I get all that. But again, I don't think any

770
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: Raiders fan, you know, I don't mean to be like stereotipic,

771
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: like they're not burning jerseys in the streets when you leave,

772
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: they would understand the situation why you left. The Raiders

773
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: are kind of a dumpster fire, jaymar You know what

774
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: else is dumpster fire? WNBA. So there is a crazy

775
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: story out about the WNBA. They are currently in negotiations

776
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: on a new CBA. That sounds boring. You know what

777
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: doesn't sound boring though, the fact that they're very well

778
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 2: maybe a WNBA lockout. We're gonna discuss that next. Back

779
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: to the NFL lot to cover. We're on until two

780
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Speaker 2: am Eastern. Rators Jason Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome he everybody, hour two towards Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes,

784
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: we are live here at midnight Eastern. As de Segre

785
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: just told you, two Saturday NFL games are in the books.

786
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay beats Carolina in a rain soaked finish in Tampa.

787
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: Sixteen to fourteen is the final score. The NFC South

788
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: will come down to the New Orleans Atlanta game on Sunday,

789
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: both teams playing spoiler. If New Orleans wins, that means

790
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks or your NFC South champs. If

791
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons win, Carolina will go to the playoffs.

792
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: And in the late game we spend hour one talking

793
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: about it quite a bit. The Seattle Seahawks go to

794
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: San Francisco win thirteen to three. The Seattle Seahawks are

795
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: your number one overall seed. The Seattle Seahawks or are

796
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: your NFC West Champions. And that is what happened in

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00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: the world of the NFL on Saturday. By the way,

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805
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: This was a story that.

806
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: Slipped through the cracks, So.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

808
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: It's going to be entertaining. I'll tell you this so

809
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: so look, obviously, this time of year, the focal point

810
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: is football. College Football Playoff continues this week, NFL Week

811
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: eighteen is going on. This story is unbelievable, though, so

812
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: the WNBA WNBA for people who are not plugged into

813
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: the WNBA news cycle three hundred and sixty five days

814
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: a year.

815
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Speaker 3: They're a pro basketball league with women.

816
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: They are a pro basketball league with women who I

817
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: don't want to sit there and say that they're not

818
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: going to be a pro basketball league for very long.

819
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting closer.

820
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. It is an interesting week

821
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: and why we bring it up is because the WNBA

822
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: is actually in the middle of CBA negotiations. Now, a

823
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: lot of this happened in the last day or so,

824
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: but basically, the league has a January ninth deadline to

825
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: get a new collective bargaining deal done. It's January third,

826
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: right now. What is at stake for the WNBA, Why

827
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: are they arguing, and by the way, to backtrack collective

828
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: bargaining deal otherwise there will be a player lockout. I'm

829
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: gonna give you the specifics via ESPN. Now, strike a

830
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: strike a strike, Yeah, that's actually a very important difference.

831
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: The players will go on strike. So let me let me.

832
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: ESPN has a very good article. Obviously, both sides are

833
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: trying to present their side of the argument. So the

834
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: WNBA Players Association is arguing that they want thirty percent

835
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: of gross revenue and a salary cap of approximately ten

836
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars. That's what they're asking for.

837
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like a lot. Here is the issue.

838
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: The owners say that if they meet the demands of

839
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: the players. The league could lose seven hundred million I

840
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 2: sound like doctor Evil here, seven hundred million dollars over

841
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: the totality of the deal. So obviously the players are

842
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: saying those numbers aren't right. And there's five new teams

843
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: coming into the league, and there's franchise fees that are

844
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: being paid, so we don't have to get into all

845
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: of the semantics here. But at the same time, it

846
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: is clear that if the players get what they want,

847
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: the league will go even further into debt. It very

848
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: much feels to me like the owners are finally saying, hey,

849
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: we have a little momentum, but how about we just

850
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: try to break even forget trying to turn a profit.

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00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: And so actually what the owners have proposed is basically

852
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: offering a situation where they would get fifty percent of

853
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: of net proceeds. So basically, once the bills get paid,

854
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: you get fifty percent of everything else that we make.

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00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: The players aren't happy with it. I could go back

856
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: and forth, wild story, and yes there could be a

857
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: WNBA strike that, depending on how you feel, very much

858
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: could put this entire season in jeopardy. Where are you

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00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: at on this story, Jmark.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Nashville with my feet on the ground, and

861
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: so I have no choice but to say, this is

862
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Like that's

863
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: why I sent you the story. When you were saying,

864
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: where else do we want to go tonight? Past football,

865
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: it's like, well, there's this and the thing that's just

866
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: mind boggling. First off, you have a couple of other leagues,

867
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: like women's leagues, kind of like independent stuff that's sort

868
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: of floating out there. So that's also an option potentially

869
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: for some of these players if they wanted to keep

870
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: playing basketball all this.

871
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: I should mention, just to throw it out there. Now,

872
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm told the Fista Collier will need sir double ankle surgery. Yeah,

873
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: but she is the head of the players Association. But

874
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: also like I don't know if an investor is the

875
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: right word, but she's somehow financially involved with Unrivaled. So

876
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: that's exactly seems to be a major coplic of interest. Unrivaled.

877
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: By the way, is the three on three league off

878
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: season whatever?

879
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: Keep going, J Martin, Yeah.

880
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 5: So.

881
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: I understand you know how CBA's work and how look,

882
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: you're trying to get the best do you can and

883
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: all this other kind of stuff. The way they behave

884
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: is if they have all this leverage. I just don't

885
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: think they understand like they're more popular than they've ever

886
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: been because they have one unicorn who's making seventy eight

887
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year. When you look at what the

888
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: owners are wanting to take the max salary, which I

889
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: think was two hundred and fifty thousand and make it

890
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: like one point four mil or something like that, the

891
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: money is going to go up. But here's the problem,

892
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: Like this goes back to pay us what you owe us.

893
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: That's right forgot Abo wearing.

894
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: The T shirts on All Star weekend. The owners basically

895
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: can just turn right back around and say, well you first,

896
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: because let me give you a bill for how much

897
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: debt you've caused me over the last couple of decades.

898
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: And this is NBA owners. Now, Adam Silver can send

899
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: the same bill and be like, once you pay that back,

900
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: all right, then we can have a conversation. Because the

901
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: league's never turned a real profit, it has lost incredible

902
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: amounts of money. And so now the owners are like, hey,

903
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: we're going to offer you more money on a contract.

904
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 3: We're going to offer you I think it's fifteen percent

905
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: instead of thirty, which is what they wanted of gross

906
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: revenue and all this other kind of stuff. Despite the

907
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: fact that you've lost us money the entire time, we

908
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: do want to say, look, we understand the league's starting

909
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: to grow a little bit. We're hopefully going to take

910
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: advantage of this Caitlin Clark thing and at least maximize

911
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: this in the short term. The media seems to be

912
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: just like in the tank for us in terms of

913
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: the WNBA right now. They're all saying nice stuff. Whether

914
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: they believe it or not. You know, all this stuff

915
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: is happening, so we do want to show you. Look,

916
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna meet you somewhere on this, and they're like nope, nope,

917
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna give us this. They're asking for charter flights

918
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: and private flights and all sorts of other stuff. It's

919
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: like a concert writer for Katy Perry at some point,

920
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: but it's preposterous because Katy Perry can actually sell out

921
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: a building, and unless Caitlin Clark's playing, nobody in the

922
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: WNBA is coming anywhere near that. But the bigger issue

923
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: is just like, again, you are behaving as if you

924
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: are some kind of incredible commodity. And I hate to

925
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: tell you, but you're not. You're just absolutely not. And

926
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: here's the problem. If you strike and you put this

927
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: season in jeopardy, no one's gonna notice. Like zero point

928
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 3: zero one percent of the sports watching public might notice.

929
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: There will be a few articles written, there will be

930
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: a little bit of TV coverage on certain shows, and

931
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: that's gonna be it. If you go away, we're just

932
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna remember that. I mean, we're just gonna move on

933
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: to other stuff that we were watching anyway, Like Brian

934
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: knows gonna be upset because Brian knows become a big

935
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: WNBA fan for gambling purposes. I believe mainly it's good

936
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: for him. It's fine to find new hobbies.

937
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: By the way, he does host Fox Sports Radios count

938
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Down to kick Off every single Saturday and Sunday. Should

939
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: mention this keep going, Yes.

940
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: Make sure you do that. No. Just again, like when

941
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: baseball had it strike in ninety four, at least baseball

942
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: was America's pastime. You are America's I don't even know

943
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: what you would say, America's go away. Like no one cares.

944
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 3: The vast majority of people don't. Caitlyn Clark. Notwithstanding, she's

945
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: also saying, she's like, this is the most important time.

946
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: Her quote, you can find it her quote about this.

947
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: She's saying, this is the most important time in the

948
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: history of this league, and we're gonna do everything we

949
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: can to get the most that we can all this.

950
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: But then the last thing she says is, but we

951
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 3: also need to play basketball. And that's a key point here,

952
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: because if they don't play basketball, they're going to discover

953
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: that no one cares, and no one's going to beg

954
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: them back. No one's going to go to the owners

955
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: and say, hey, please pay them. We missed the WNBA

956
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: so much. Nah, man, we already have too much to watch.

957
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: We got backlogs of TV shows, backlogs of movies. There's

958
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: sports that are much more entertaining than you at all times. Basically,

959
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: there's no need for a women's professional basketball league, but

960
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: it's continued to exist because the NBA has propped it up.

961
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: And now when the owners are trying to do a

962
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: little something, but they're also saying, hey, let's actually work

963
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: together and make this thing profitable, you've decided that no,

964
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: that's not good enough, because you need to get yours now.

965
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: And that's when like, what's I don't see the owners

966
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: coming to the table and saying, Okay, give uncle. Why

967
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: would they do that? Like, I actually think this is

968
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: probably going to happen. And they had to vote, and

969
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: the vote was ninety eight percent to two percent. The

970
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: players voted to give the power to the union to

971
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: initiate a strike if necessary. So they've set the stage

972
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: and almost the entire league is behind it. I'm like,

973
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: are there anybody outside of that two percent? Is there

974
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: anybody in this league that is willing to set these

975
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: women down and explain how life, America, capitalism, entertainment, all

976
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: of those things work, because it seems to me that

977
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: everyone's forgotten about this, Like they just look at themselves

978
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: as superstars. You can call yourself a superstar all you want,

979
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't make you one. And this league is full

980
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: of non superstars that are going after leverage that they

981
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: don't have. And I want to see the owners call

982
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 3: their bluff on this because I think a lot of

983
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: people listening right now would be just fine if the

984
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: WNBA was not so.

985
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: And that's what it comes down to is I think

986
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: the most important part of what everything that you said

987
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: there and it was all incredible. Is like, listen, I'm

988
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 2: a little young to remember the ninety four baseball strike,

989
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: but I remember enough of it, and what I seem

990
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: to remember was, you know, it was the cliche millionaires

991
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: versus billionaires, but like everyone was heartbroken when it the

992
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: season was canceled. It was the first time the World

993
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: Series had been canceled since World War Two or whatever

994
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: it was, blah blah blah, and it was like, I

995
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think the league has built up

996
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: enough equity where they could just step away. And I

997
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: think there's two things. One and this is actually I

998
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: don't know if there's two things, but one I would

999
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: think the owners. Listen, I think for a long time

1000
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: they subsidized things and it wasn't really that. I do

1001
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: understand them saying, Okay, we have a chance to actually

1002
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: become a real business here and not just a welfare system.

1003
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: For lack of a better term, I hate to say it,

1004
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: but it's the truth. We have a chance to create

1005
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: a real business here, but you guys have to meet

1006
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: us in the business and do something sustainable. You know,

1007
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of this until right now, But like,

1008
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: what do we always talk about in sports like maybe

1009
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: basketball more than anything is the sacrifices that the previous

1010
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: generations made for the good of the league overall, you know,

1011
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: the Magic Bird going from tape delay to what is

1012
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: now the NBA. At some point somebody has to make

1013
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: a sacrifice for the good of this league, and the

1014
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: players aren't doing it. And then I also think that

1015
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: once they're gone, they will have no leverage to come back.

1016
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: And I like, again, I don't think this is ninety

1017
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: four with the major leagues, or even twenty eleven with

1018
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: the NBA, where it was like, no, we actually want

1019
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: you back. Like I think people are gonna move on.

1020
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: The WNBA has certainly become a nice something to talk about,

1021
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: diversion conversation in June and July when there's nothing else

1022
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: but guess what. Go back to last year. Kaylen Clark

1023
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: has that weird injury, which by the way, nobody could

1024
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: explain for about two months there. Angel Reese gets hurt,

1025
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: and guess what nobody was talking about the league? You

1026
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: go back to Kayln Clark's rookie year. I don't have

1027
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: the numbers in front of me, but she got knocked

1028
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: out in the opening round of the playoffs, the ratings

1029
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: plummeted without her, and so I just think it is

1030
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: a no way. Well, listen, they can do whatever they want.

1031
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: And I think it speaks to the delusion of you know,

1032
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what percentage, but pretty much the vast

1033
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: majority of these players of at some point you got

1034
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: to turn this into a business. At some point you

1035
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: have to turn a profit or there is no business.

1036
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 2: And I've said what I had to say. You could

1037
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: take wherever you want from that.

1038
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, if they go away, the reason you go

1039
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 3: away is because you trust, you have faith that there

1040
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: is going to be a groundswell of people to say please, please, please.

1041
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: You want to be able to go and argue, Look

1042
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 3: how much money you are losing by not paying us

1043
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: what we're asking, by not giving us what we're asking.

1044
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: Look how much you're sacrificing. Look how many people are

1045
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: unhappy you Like all the pressure is on the owners.

1046
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: There's not gonna be pressure on the owners. I don't

1047
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: even know exactly when the WNBA season is supposed to

1048
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: run from and two, but like, there's going to be

1049
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 3: other stuff, There's not going to be this ground swell.

1050
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: People are not going to be outside NBA arenas picketing.

1051
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: I mean there might be a few, and again, look,

1052
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: more power to you if you like the league. I'm

1053
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: not here to tell you you can't like what you

1054
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: want to like. I am here to tell you, however,

1055
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: that if they go away, no one is going to

1056
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: think about it, which means no one is going to

1057
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: miss them, which means nobody is going to flood the

1058
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: email boxes of all the various NBA owners and the

1059
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: NBA offices and all this kind of stuff demanding that

1060
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: the WNBA come back. They're not going to need replacement player.

1061
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: Shane Falco is not going to be out there WNBA

1062
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: style so that there are still women's basketball. Here's the thing,

1063
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: We'll just watch women's college basketball with care that much

1064
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: like most of the time, that's been what people have

1065
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: watched at times, at least when they've been highs for

1066
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: women's basketball much more. But I think he's been on

1067
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 3: the college side than the pro side. The only thing

1068
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: you're doing right now is blowing your unicorn chance with

1069
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark. The longer you don't have her on the floor,

1070
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: that's going to be a problem. But if you guys

1071
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: go away for a year. It's not going to be

1072
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: the owners that lose money. They're actually going to make money.

1073
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: They're gonna make more money at least because they're not

1074
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: going to lose out on all the quarter filled arenas

1075
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 3: and all of those other kinds of things. You're going

1076
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 3: to discover. And I think it's going to be a

1077
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: rude awakening if you're this delusional, right, If it's not

1078
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: just bluster, and the owners are gonna call their blood

1079
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: and they're gonna come back down to reality and all

1080
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff. It's gonna be a rude

1081
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: awakening when you realize that the level of star you

1082
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 3: think you are is nowhere near what reality is. Like,

1083
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: these two things are not going to coexist well. And

1084
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be a massive hit to the ego

1085
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: when you realize that no one cares that you're not there.

1086
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see. According to this ESPN article,

1087
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: it could be January ninth when a drop dead decision

1088
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: has to come. That is the deadline for a potential

1089
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: w NBA strike again. According to ESPN, if the owners

1090
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: give in to the players demands, they could lose up

1091
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: to seven hundred million dollars.

1092
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, why would they do that? Why would anyone

1093
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: do that? By the way, January the ninth, that story

1094
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: isn't even going to be the top story in sports.

1095
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: If you guys strike because there's a college football playoff

1096
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: semi final that night.

1097
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Speaking of those college football

1098
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: playoff semi finals, let's come back and talk about them.

1099
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: We have Miami Old Miss on Thursday. We got Oregon

1100
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: Indiana on Friday. We have an interesting situation brewing with

1101
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: the Old Miss coaching staff. We're gonna discuss all that

1102
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: next air towards Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

1103
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1104
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Come back, by the way,

1105
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: j Martin, little pivot. We're gonna do college football playoff

1106
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: an hour three, But darn it, I teased it, so

1107
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: we're doing it next.

1108
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: Got it.

1109
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: Before we get to it, though, let's get to the

1110
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: news desk. Steve de Seger, what is trending?

1111
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 6: Seattle's defense was kind of impressive tonight in San Francisco.

1112
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 6: The Seahawks clinch the one seed in the NFC and

1113
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 6: the NFC West title with a thirteen to three victory

1114
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 6: over the forty nine ers, who had entered with a

1115
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 6: twelve and four mark this year. They had been five

1116
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 6: and two at home, and George It'll play the tight end,

1117
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 6: returned after the ankle injury. He had five catches twenty

1118
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 6: nine yards. Tackle Trent Williams was out with a hamstring injury.

1119
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 6: San Francisco wide receiver Ricky Piersall was out with knee

1120
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: and ankle injuries. But the Niners were the best in

1121
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 6: the league coming into tonight at third down conversions over

1122
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 6: fifty percent, highest mark for any team in four years.

1123
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 6: But Seattle has the best third down defense, and it

1124
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: showed tonight. San Francisco two for nine on third down conversions,

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00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 6: their opponents only just under a third of their third

1126
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: down say convert and on the road, the Seahawks finished

1127
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 6: eight and one thirteen to three. The final at San Francisco,

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay Bucks sixteen to fourteen winners over Carolina, each

1129
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: team eight and nine. The Bucks will win the NFC

1130
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 6: South with that record. If Atlanta loses on.

1131
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna win the NFC South with that record.

1132
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 6: And if Atlanta wins on Sunday, Carolina takes the division.

1133
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 6: In the NBA, We've got two late games at Golden State.

1134
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 6: It's just gone final. The Warriors got thirty one points

1135
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 6: from Steph Curry and beat the Utah Jazz one twenty three,

1136
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: one fourteen, despite thirty five points from Lowry markin and

1137
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 6: of the Jazz. The late game in LA has the

1138
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: Celtics now ahead of the Clippers one nineteen to one

1139
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 6: oh one with about nine minutes to go. Jalen Brown

1140
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 6: thirty nine points in thirty minutes on the court. Earlier,

1141
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 6: seventy six Ers won at New York. Mavericks beat Houston

1142
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: Houston Rocket Center Alpa and Shngon left with an ankle injury.

1143
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 6: In college hoops, SMU defeated number twelve North Carolina UCF

1144
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 6: upset number seventeen Kansas Missouri tonight beat number twenty two Florida.

1145
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 6: NHL wins for Colorado for LA in a shootout, and

1146
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 6: the Blue Jays are signing Japanese third baseman Kazuma Okamoto,

1147
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 6: reportedly a four year deal. We're sixty million dollars back

1148
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 6: to you, Thank.

1149
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: You very much, Steve Seger, it says Fox Sports Radio,

1150
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday, depending on where you are

1151
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: or towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1152
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: Radio studios. Jmark, do you want to talk to college

1153
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: football playoffs semi finals in a minute, you know, I'll

1154
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: ask you this interesting sort of development with the ole

1155
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Miss Rebels. They were the last team to advance to

1156
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: the semi finals. They of course won that New Year's

1157
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: Night thriller. You and I were filling in for Jason

1158
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: Smith and Mike Harmon when it happened. Bring it up,

1159
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: because it's been a you know, certainly a narrative since

1160
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin left for LSU that not only that he

1161
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: was leaving, but that there was the original thought that

1162
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: the offensive staff would not be allowed to coach. Then

1163
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: they were allowed to coach. But it does feel like

1164
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: we have now hit kind of like a critical mass

1165
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: point for those coaches. Is that one for people don't

1166
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: follow the college football calendar, the transfer portal has opened,

1167
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: so basically roster building has begun for next season. Also,

1168
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: and I think this is an important note. You know,

1169
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: when ole Miss was getting ready for their opener against

1170
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: Tulane and then obviously the semi the quarterfinal excuse me

1171
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: against Georgia they had multiple weeks off between games. Ole

1172
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: Miss goes back on the field this Thursday against Miami,

1173
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: and so I just bring it up because it feels

1174
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: like there's sort of this weird circumstance where LSU, I

1175
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: don't know, has explicitly told guys that they can't really coach,

1176
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: but they're sort of an understanding that we know what

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: we told you, but we'd really kind of like you

1178
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: here to work on the portal. Pete Golding said, quote

1179
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: earlier today, week in and week out. I don't dictate

1180
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: whether they're here or not because they're not employed by me.

1181
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: Up to this point. That's how it beent, and that's

1182
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: how it's been, and that's my expectation. I'll just be

1183
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: quick on this. It's an interesting scenario, and I kind

1184
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: of actually do see both sides of it. I think

1185
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: LSU is sitting there saying, look, we you know, certainly

1186
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: didn't think you were gonna make it this far, but

1187
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: we're trying to build for next year. You're getting paid

1188
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: by us, You are an employee of Louisiana State University,

1189
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: and you need to be here helping out, you know,

1190
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: get ready for next year. And I think i'll Miss

1191
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: this in there saying, well, you guys agreed to this.

1192
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: It was your idea, or at least it was something

1193
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: that you agreed to a month ago. It's not our

1194
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: fault that we keep winning. Do you have any strong

1195
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: opinions on what's going on with those old miss coaches?

1196
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: As I believe all Charlie West Junior, the play caller,

1197
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: is confirmed he will be at the Fiesta Bowl. I

1198
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: think everybody else that was doing double duty is kind

1199
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: of up in the air.

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01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I understand your point, and I don't

1201
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: necessarily disagree. My whole take remains the same. I just

1202
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: keep looking at the football team, the guys that are

1203
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: given they're all on the field, and I'm just like, gosh,

1204
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: I feel like, you guys deserve better than this, right,

1205
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: you know. I understand that it's difficult and all this,

1206
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: but they didn't ask for any of this, and they're

1207
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 3: caught in the middle and they have to go play

1208
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: a very important game, most important game maybe in the

1209
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: school's entire history, and they don't know who's going to

1210
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: be on the sidelines with them. They haven't felt like

1211
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: the guy that was coaching them throughout much of the

1212
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: regular season was really there at least fully present at

1213
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: the time and all this other kind of stuff. So

1214
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there looking at guys like Trinidad Chambliss and

1215
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: just dudes that have put it all on the line.

1216
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: And then you see, like I guess it's Ryan Clark, okay,

1217
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: earlier this week saying that ole miss should be grateful

1218
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: for Lane Kiffin and thankful for Lane Kiffin and basically

1219
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: bow down because they'd be nowhere without him and all this,

1220
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: And I'm like, one, lsu alum, Ryan Clark. Two, it's

1221
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: just a bad take, Like, yes, of course Lane Kiffen

1222
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: helped build that program into what it is. No one

1223
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: is suggesting otherwise, but to say that now they need

1224
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: to be just so grateful and basically keep their mouths

1225
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 3: shut about the decision that he made, that everybody in

1226
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: Oxford just needs to be thankful that he was there

1227
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: in the first place and all this. I just I

1228
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 3: can't get on board with that at all. And left

1229
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: in the lurch is the football team that's competing for

1230
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: a championship, And of course Golding's not in a good

1231
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: situation with everything that he's trying to deal with, and

1232
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: who's here and who's not and it's not his call

1233
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: and all this. I certainly understand what LSU is would think,

1234
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: and I understand what Lane would think. But I'm on

1235
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: the old Miss side one hundred percent through this whole thing.

1236
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: Lane can go do what he wants. He can do

1237
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: whatever he's got to do. And if he says those

1238
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 3: scantnotions that need to be with me the next line,

1239
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 3: maybe don't fire out a tweet after they win their

1240
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: game the other night and say, oh, this is so

1241
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: much fun. Maybe two more huh, Like I think he

1242
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 3: tweeted something to that effect, And it's just kind of

1243
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: like they're just just just where the go to the

1244
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: LSU women's basketball game. He was there, which you have

1245
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: done with your with your wife. Go show up there

1246
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 3: support the university that you're at. But stop this. No

1247
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: one in Oxford wants to see you rooting for Ole Miss.

1248
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: No one in Oxford really wants to remember you at all.

1249
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: And I think that the football team at this point

1250
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: needs to be the focus, and it would be almost

1251
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: the first time all season where that could be the case.

1252
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 3: We need to be talking about the brilliance of Trinidad Chambliss.

1253
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: Also just an all time great football game that was

1254
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: played between Ole Miss and Georgia a couple of days ago,

1255
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: and again we're stuck here in the lurch of trying

1256
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: to figure out who can coach and who can't, who's

1257
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: right and who's wrong, and all of these things. I'm

1258
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: not going to listen to the calendar argument. I'm not

1259
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: going to listen to any of this. I'm just gonna

1260
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: look at the Old Miss guys that are playing football

1261
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: right now and say, you guys deserve better in this stinks.

1262
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: It does stink, And I do think a lot of

1263
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: this is contingent, contingent on It sounded great on paper

1264
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: on December ninth or whatever it was. I don't think

1265
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: anybody thought, especially when the bracket came out and he

1266
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: had to play Georgia, that they were actually going to

1267
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: be in this position, which transitions nicely to uh, the

1268
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: semi finals. The ole Miss does play the first semi final,

1269
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: that is obviously on Thursday night. Tell you what, ty shirt,

1270
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: why don't you give us a little music? Let's just

1271
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: do some quick previews of these games.

1272
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: Wait, let me ask you one question on me.

1273
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we'll bring an ian to

1274
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: preview but go ahead, but go ahead, what's the question?

1275
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 2: What do you got?

1276
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 3: I like that cut, by the way, that was fun.

1277
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: So they so they're like, we didn't think you were

1278
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: going to get this far.

1279
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone said that publicly.

1280
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Speaker 3: I just know I know, but that that impression, right, idea?

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Speaker 3: Would that mean that your new head coach at LSU,

1282
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: the one that was coaching at ole Miss, told LSU

1283
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: that they're not going to be Georgia. Don't worry about it.

1284
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: No, I think it's more of a he was so

1285
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: arrogant that he thought that they'll fall apart without me

1286
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: one and certainly if I if they couldn't beat Georgia

1287
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: with me, they'll not they won't be able to beat

1288
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: them without me. That's more of the vibe that.

1289
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Speaker 3: I think. It's just another indicator though that he didn't

1290
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: believe in his own football team.

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: Now, I think it's fair, and you know, we talked

1292
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: about this on our our Thursday night fill in with

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01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon of basically, you know, he

1294
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: left LSU because he thought he had a chance to

1295
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: compete for championships and there is no guarantee that he

1296
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: will ever be in a better position than old Miss

1297
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: currently is in, and frankly maybe could have hypothetically been

1298
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: in with him. I know I said it a bunch.

1299
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: You heard me say this quite a bit. But I

1300
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: go back to the old Herm Edwards. You play to

1301
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: win the game. You play to put yourself in position

1302
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: to win a championship. Ole Miss does it and he

1303
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: walks out.

1304
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I just wanted to throw that out. Now we

1305
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: can do the preview.

1306
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Yeah, we'll bring you in.

1307
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead, give us, give us a little intro here.

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 7: All right, let's start with the Thursday game January eighth,

1309
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 7: got Miami taking on Ole Miss in the Verbo Fiesta Bowl.

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 7: Miami's favored by three and a half in this one.

1311
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 7: But what do you guys think happens here? We'll start

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01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 7: with you, j Mart.

1313
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: What you got? Man? It's tough because after you watch

1314
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 3: him against Georgia, you're impressed, but you also saw the

1315
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 3: talent on the field for Miami, saying's not nearly as

1316
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: fleet to foot or dangerous as Chambliss in a lot

1317
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: of different ways. That's gonna cause Miami more issues. Is

1318
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: this gonna be the game where Carson Beck does the

1319
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: thing I didn't. I did not buy into him at all,

1320
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: and that's why I picked Ohio State to win, and

1321
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: win easily turned out to be entirely wrong. But I

1322
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: don't look at the I still don't look at Miami

1323
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: and think juggernaut. I understand they have a lot of talent.

1324
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 3: The problem is, is be gonna be necessary or are

1325
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: they just gonna run the ball really effectively all game long.

1326
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: If they do, and those two just absolute monsters on

1327
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: defense do what they did against Ohio State, then they're

1328
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: gonna win that game. I think think ole Miss is

1329
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: probably the better overall football team, but I think this

1330
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 3: might be the moment where I will go with Miami.

1331
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna pick Miami to win this game,

1332
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: primarily because of Fletcher and Tony and what these guys

1333
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: have been able to do running the football, and just

1334
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: the relentless nature of the defense. Seems to be that

1335
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 3: Scott has been in the right place a lot during

1336
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: the course of the season, and when you look at

1337
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: the trenches in this game, I think that's gonna favor

1338
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 3: Miami because it's a Mario Cristoball team and that's what

1339
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 3: he builds so I actually think I will pick Miami

1340
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: to beat Ole Miss, even though I am pulling for

1341
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: ole Miss, not because I hate Miami, but because it's

1342
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: hard to pull against Ole Miss right now.

1343
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll say this, It's hard for me to

1344
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: pick this game only because I'm the guy that had

1345
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: Old Miss getting blown out by Georgia. So I'm hesitant

1346
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: to do this. I do like Miami. Listen, I I

1347
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: think when you dominate Ohio State, and you dominate Texas

1348
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: A and M both up front and oh by the way,

1349
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: earlier this year you did dominate Notre Dame, it's just tough.

1350
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 6: Now.

1351
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: Trinidad Chamblass, to your point, is a totally different quarterback then,

1352
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: certainly Gunner Stockton and certainly Marcel Reid. But I just

1353
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. And then the other thing, too,

1354
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: like you said, is if Miami could just sit on

1355
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: that run game and not make Carson Beck do too much,

1356
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I have a hard time. I think

1357
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 2: this is where the road ends for Old Miss. It's

1358
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: been an incredible year, incredible season, already proved people wrong

1359
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: by beating Georgia. The other thing is, too, I don't

1360
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: know that it really matters, but quick turnaround. You know,

1361
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: less than a week they got to travel cross country.

1362
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: They played that late late New Year's game. Miami, of

1363
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: course had the game the day before. Don't know that

1364
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: it really matters that much, but I will take Miami

1365
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: to win that game, all right.

1366
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 7: Next up, the Chick fil a peach Ball got Oregon

1367
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 7: versus Indiana. Indiana's favored by four points in this one.

1368
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 7: What do you think Aaron will start with you on

1369
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 7: this one?

1370
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, rematch of a game earlier in Eugene. Both coaches,

1371
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: by the way, were very like overly complimentary. Today they

1372
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: had a dual press conference and it was like, who

1373
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: can you know compliment the other one?

1374
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: St yes.

1375
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: One, obviously we know what Indiana just did. I do

1376
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: think Oregon to me, I know, Dante Moore could literally

1377
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: like potentially be like the number one, number two pick

1378
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: in the draft. I feel like they're kind of a

1379
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: year ahead of schedule, Like they lost everybody off of

1380
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: last year, Dante Moore, first year starter, and you know,

1381
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: even the Brandon Finney kid who was awesome against Texas Tech.

1382
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: Like most of their impact players are on the younger

1383
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: side and coming back. I don't know if Dante Moore

1384
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: specifically will be back. Feels like they're a year ahead

1385
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: of schedule. I don't think Indiana is gonna slow down,

1386
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: as honestly, net he's a head coach, but it just

1387
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 2: kind of feels like they're built for this year, peaking

1388
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: at the right time. To their credit, no letdown after

1389
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 2: that Ohio State game. I'll take Indiana to win.

1390
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: Yep, me too. I mean I don't have to repeat

1391
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 3: much of what you did. I think Indiana right now

1392
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: is the most complete team. I think they should win

1393
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: the entire thing, not just because of what they did

1394
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: to Alabama, because Alabama definitely was flawed, but the way

1395
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: that they dismantled them, the way that they just kicked

1396
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 3: them in the dirt and made sure they had absolutely

1397
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: no room to breathe at all. Mendoza is just on

1398
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: a level right now where he's just he's making almost

1399
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: no mistakes at all. What they do on the offensive line,

1400
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: what they can do defensively, to you how well coach

1401
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: they are. I like Oregon an awful lot. I think

1402
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 3: that this is going to be not as close as

1403
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: their first matchup was. I just think Indiana is rolling.

1404
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 3: They look the part of a champion. And I'll tell you, man,

1405
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: if we get Indiana and Miami, that's going to be

1406
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: one physical football game.

1407
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: One physical football game. Miami oll miss in the Fiesta

1408
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: Bowl on Thursday night. Friday. Indiana and Oregon come back.

1409
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 2: We will get to Steve de Sager's extended update. Goodness gracious,

1410
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: cannot wait to hear what Disager has on a busy

1411
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: day across the world of sports. Disaga up next, Fox

1412
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason

1413
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios with

1414
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,800
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1415
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,920
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1416
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,840
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1417
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,080
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1418
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,400
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1419
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,760
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1420
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: iHeart app, so we'll always pop up at the top

1421
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: of your screen. Let's get it over the news desk

1422
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 2: every week round this time Steve Disaga with his extended update.

1423
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 6: Go ahead to Sager, Well, we've got a lot of

1424
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 6: football to get to with the late game in the

1425
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 6: NBA has just finished and the Celtics Jalen Brown scored

1426
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 6: fifty points. Celtics beat a Clippers team that had won

1427
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 6: six straight one forty six to one fifteen. And the

1428
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 6: late game in college basketball men's is in double overtime.

1429
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 6: San Diego State's just gone up by five midway through

1430
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 6: the second OT against Boise State. The late NHL game

1431
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 6: just final final seconds of overtime Boston Bruins goal wins

1432
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 6: at three to two at Vancouver. You mentioned the college

1433
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 6: football playoffs semi finals are on Thursday and Friday next week.

1434
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 6: College Football's finale is in Miami on Monday, the nineteenth

1435
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 6: quarterback Drew Mestemaker committed to Oklahoma State, transferring from North

1436
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 6: Texas to go where his head coach just went. Oklahoma

1437
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 6: State's record was one and eleven this past season, hadn't

1438
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 6: won a conference game in the past two years, and

1439
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 6: I read today that fifty nine Oklahoma State players are

1440
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,440
Speaker 6: in the transfer portal. Clemson will reportedly hire Chad Morris's

1441
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator he worked there over a decade ago. A

1442
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 6: lot of NFL news, starting with the wins for Seattle

1443
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 6: and Tampa Bay on this Saturday, the regular season ends

1444
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 6: tomorrow night. Pittsburgh pass rusher TJ. Watt will play the

1445
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 6: season finale against the Ravens. He's missed the last three

1446
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 6: games with the lung injury. Ravens wide receiver Rashad Bateman

1447
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 6: is out Sunday night due to illness. Today in the

1448
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 6: rain at Tampa, the Bucks sixteen fourteen winners over Carolina,

1449
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: each team eight and nine. The Buccaneers will win the

1450
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 6: NFC South with a losing record if Atlanta loses its

1451
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 6: finale on Sunday. If Atlanta wins tomorrow, Carolina takes the

1452
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 6: division at eight and nine, and yes gets to host

1453
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 6: a playoff game with a losing mark. Tampa Bay wins

1454
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 6: even though Mike Evans today had two catches one reception

1455
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 6: each for Chris Godwin and Ameca Abuka, who's been darn

1456
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 6: near invisible the last month. Panthers are engaged this week. Congratulations,

1457
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 6: that's why. Because once they got a couple receivers back boy,

1458
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 6: did he go down the pecking order. Panthers early third

1459
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 6: quarter missed a fifty four yard field goal attempt short

1460
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 6: That was a few plays after the soul called lateral

1461
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 6: the quick whistle. Did anybody see this this afternoon. They

1462
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 6: had to talk to a pool reporter, that is, after

1463
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 6: the game, talk to the referee, Brad Allen, that he admits,

1464
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 6: though you know, the offense could have had a choice

1465
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 6: to just replay that backward pass instead of a second

1466
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 6: and ten. The referees mistake made it second and seventeen.

1467
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 6: They didn't get much yardage on the next couple downs

1468
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 6: and wound up with a fifty four yard field goal attempt,

1469
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 6: and again it was short, and the Panthers wind up

1470
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 6: losing by two. Panthers as a team fourteen carries just

1471
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 6: nineteen yards rushing. Today Kate Ottenbucks tight end seven catches

1472
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 6: ninety four yards and a score. The Bucks had lost

1473
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 6: seven of eight but got the win here because they

1474
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 6: were up ten to nothing after their first two drives.

1475
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 6: It was sixteen to seven late in the game Panthers

1476
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 6: with three turnovers, Bryce Young two TD passes in the loss,

1477
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 6: one interception two hundred and sixty six yards. The Seattle

1478
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 6: Seahawks finished fourteen and three this season after the win

1479
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 6: at San Francisco tonight. It was a dominant thirteen to

1480
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 6: three final should have been more, but Seattle on red

1481
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 6: zone tds went zero for three Christian McCaffrey and defeat

1482
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 6: eight carries twenty three yards rushing. He did have six

1483
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 6: catches thirty four yards on top of that, but the

1484
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 6: San Francisco offense eight drives nine first downs Seattle twenty

1485
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 6: three first downs. So Seattle gets the NFC's number one seed.

1486
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 6: They win the NFC West title. San Francisco could be

1487
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 6: falling to the sixth seed. We know green Bay will

1488
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 6: be number seven. Green Bay will be playing at the

1489
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 6: two seed wild card weekend, and it could be green

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Speaker 6: Bay at Chicago in their playoff opener. Seattle has clinched

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 6: the not only division, but number one overall. What about

1492
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 6: San Francisco five or six seed? It depends on whether

1493
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 6: the Rams actually lose to Arizona in La tomorrow, but

1494
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 6: the Rams can move up to the five seed, and

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 6: it's likely Chicago gets the two seed. They get it

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01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 6: with a win against Detroit tomorrow or with a fill

1497
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 6: Ladelphia loss against Washington, and Philly is resting some starters

1498
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 6: in the AFC. Denver can only be a top three seed.

1499
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 6: They'll clinch the number one in the AFC and the

1500
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 6: first round by and the home field advantage throughout with

1501
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 6: a win over the Chargers, who are resting starters, and

1502
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 6: Chargers running back o'mari and Hampton is out with an

1503
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 6: ankle injury. By the way, Eagles tight end Dallas Goddard

1504
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 6: is out with a knee injury. Giants wide receiver wan

1505
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 6: Dale Robinson is on ir with a rib injury. There's

1506
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 6: a host of teams that could finish with the number

1507
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 6: two overall pick. Obviously, it's most likely that the Raiders

1508
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 6: draft number one overall because, of course we had the

1509
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 6: game that was just about for all the marbles.

1510
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: Those two awful stink.

1511
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 6: Giants Raiders matchup last weekend, which the Giants dominated.

1512
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 2: The Raiders are in position to get the number one

1513
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: pick because they stink, Thank you very much, Steve said.

1514
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 6: And they'll be watching Oregon in Indiana.

1515
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they will be watching Oregon in Indiana for protection

1516
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 2: beat them. You think Indiana could beat It's pretty good.

1517
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: It's a stupid argument, but signetty, don't doubt them. Fox

1518
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Sports Radio towards Jason Martin will come back. We gotta

1519
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: talk Seattle. Number one seed, what does it mean for

1520
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: the playoff picture? That's xbost So for.

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Speaker 1: You you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour three towards Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live one am

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: Eastern Time from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We are

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: on for another hour. Bernie Freddo of the Bernie Fratto

1526
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: Show will follow us. I always say it, but Bernie's

1527
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: always got the goods. So much to discuss in the

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01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: world of sports, Bernie Fratto one hour from now. Before

1529
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: we get to Bernie, though, we got a lot to unpack.

1530
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about what should be a crazy Black

1531
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: Monday in about twenty minutes from now. Before we get

1532
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: to it, though, let's talk a little bit about what

1533
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: happened on the field on Saturday. Two games that had

1534
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: major playoff implications. Let's start with the big one. It

1535
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: was in San Francisco. De Seger just did give you

1536
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: the details, but the forty nine Ers hosting the Seattle Seahawks.

1537
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: The winner gets the number one seed in the NFC.

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01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: The winner, of course, wins the NFC West and a

1539
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 2: year after Sam Darnold on a different team, basically, did

1540
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: you know what down his leg as a member of

1541
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, he comes up big. The Seahawks come

1542
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: up big. They dominate this game from start to finish.

1543
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Final score thirteen to three. Seattle Seahawks are your NFC

1544
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: West champs and they have the home field advantage in

1545
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: the NFC throughout the playoffs.

1546
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 3: It's impressive. I mean, it's impressive that this is where

1547
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 3: they finish. It was as the season went along, they

1548
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 3: were just like, all right, when's this going to come

1549
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 3: back down to reality a little bit? I mean, they're good,

1550
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: but how good really are they? And they just kept

1551
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: on winning and they beat teams that were, you know,

1552
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: some pretty heavyweights along the way. And I think the

1553
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 3: most important thing for you if you're a Seahawks fan

1554
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 3: tonight is even though Sam Darnold was nothing spectacular in

1555
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: this game, he still kind of did what he had

1556
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: to do and the defense carried him. And there have

1557
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 3: been times when it's been the opposite, but the defense

1558
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: has been pretty dog on good most of the season.

1559
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 3: But Donald at the end of the year, this is

1560
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: often where it falls apart for him. So for him

1561
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: to be doing the postgame interview on the field on

1562
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 3: television at the end of it, that should give you

1563
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 3: a little bit more confidence. Plus, I mean, it's gonna

1564
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: be in your building, and it's one of the loudest

1565
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: places that you can watch a sporting event anywhere on Earth,

1566
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: So that's going to help you as well. It's a

1567
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: place no one wants to have to come in order

1568
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: to make it to a Super Bowl. So Seattle has

1569
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: done the thing. They've done exactly what you would want.

1570
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: And look, Darnold was the guy that was cast off

1571
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: last year in Minnesota. Minnesota right now doesn't know what

1572
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 3: they've got at quarterback. They're not in the playoffs, and

1573
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: the Seahawks have won. Gino went to the Raiders, didn't work,

1574
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: hasn't worked at all. There. You pick up Darnold, you

1575
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 3: bring him in and Jackson Smith and Jigba really showcases

1576
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 3: what we saw at Ohio State really blossoms into one

1577
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 3: of the premiere players in the NFL this season. You

1578
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: can run it, you can play solid defense, you can

1579
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 3: turn the ball over from other teams. They've done a

1580
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 3: lot right this year. It's just been a great story

1581
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks.

1582
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: By the way, very random, and I want to get

1583
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: back to the game itself in a second, But I

1584
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, guys, Do you know

1585
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: Softy Mallord at all. He's like legendary Seattle radio host.

1586
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: We'll have him on the show at some point if

1587
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: the Seahawks make a run. He just tweeted they have

1588
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: had what the two teams in Seattle, this being the

1589
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: Mariners and the Seahawks for fifty years. This is the

1590
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: first time that both teams won their division in the

1591
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: same year.

1592
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1593
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, meritors of course, making the ALCS as the al

1594
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: West champs and of course now the NFC West Champs

1595
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: in the Seattle in Seattle with the Seahawks. Yeah, Softy

1596
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: is the best. And this guy, you know, like you

1597
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: know those like local guys that just love the local

1598
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 2: teams to the point that you're like you were born

1599
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 2: to do local sports talk radio. Softy is the best.

1600
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: And he just tweeted it out really quickly with Seattle.

1601
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: And it's kind of a maybe obvious question because you know,

1602
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: because they're going to have home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

1603
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: Are they the most complete.

1604
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: Team to you?

1605
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: Or are complete? Isn't the right word that I'm looking for.

1606
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact word I'm looking for, but

1607
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: I would say that I do think and part of

1608
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: it is the home field advantage that I do think

1609
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: I trust them more than anybody in the NFC. San

1610
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: Francisco has injuries, They're gonna have to start on the road.

1611
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1612
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: The Rams have just these weird games, like Monday Night

1613
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Philly has been up and down all year.

1614
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: Chicago has been consistent, but clearly nobody for the most

1615
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 2: part in that building has ever been on a stage

1616
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 2: like what they'll be on these next few weeks. I

1617
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 2: don't know if I like gun to my head like

1618
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: that cliche and like Seattle is winning the NFC, But

1619
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: I kind of think Seattle's winning the NFC given who

1620
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: they are, where they'll play, and the fact that I

1621
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: do kind of feel like they're probably the most complete

1622
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 2: team in the NFC.

1623
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that there's an argument for that.

1624
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 3: I think that the Rams. I like the Rams makeup,

1625
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: and I like the youth and their defense and what

1626
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: they're able to do on that side. And you know

1627
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 3: what Stafford in that offense can do when Puka is

1628
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: firing on all oders and Kyra Williams running the ball

1629
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: and all this. I don't like them New as much

1630
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 3: when they have to go on the road as much

1631
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 3: as they're going to have to now that that would

1632
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 3: worry me in terms of picking them to go to

1633
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl Now. I felt like they were the

1634
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 3: best team maybe in the league a month ago, and

1635
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: they're still among that. San Francisco is another one they're

1636
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 3: going to now. Not be able to stay home the

1637
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 3: entire way, you know, being able to host everything if

1638
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 3: you're Seattle, that's a help. And the other thing is

1639
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 3: they don't need Sam Darnold to be Josh Allen to win. Yep,

1640
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 3: Buffalo needs Josh Allen to be Josh Allen in order

1641
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 3: to win. And I mean from start to finish, including

1642
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: you know the two point conversion throw that he missed,

1643
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 3: Like he's not allowed to miss anything. He's got to

1644
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,440
Speaker 3: be perfect all the time. Seattle won tonight against San Francisco.

1645
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: You know, they scored thirteen points, but it was enough

1646
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: because the defense just flummoxed San Francisco's offense all night long.

1647
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: They can beat you in different ways. Charbonnet and Walker

1648
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: can run the ball. Yes, obviously Darnald to Injigbo or

1649
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 3: even aj Barner at times. This year has been stellar

1650
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 3: for them when it comes to just being a tight

1651
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 3: end they can step in and make a good play,

1652
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: keep the chains moving, but you're never re lying on

1653
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: Darnald to go get you four hundred yards and four

1654
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: touchdowns to win. And so many teams are over reliant

1655
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: on one way to win. And I think that might

1656
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: be the best way of saying they might be the

1657
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 3: most complete because they can beat you on both sides

1658
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 3: of the ball, and they can beat you even if

1659
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: their quarterback throws for you know, one eighty and a touchdown,

1660
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: because they can run it and a lot of times

1661
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: they don't turn the ball over. And I think that's

1662
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 3: gonna be the key if you're Darnald. If Darnald has

1663
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: one of those performances in the divisional round against their

1664
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: first opponent, whoever it turns out to be, and he

1665
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 3: throws three interceptions, then that's it's not gonna matter. So

1666
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: he's still gonna have to dodge at We saw that

1667
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: against the Rams year in the playoffs, where he just

1668
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 3: kind of detonated in Minnesota and just had an awful performance.

1669
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: He can't do that, but he doesn't have to go

1670
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: win you the game every time. He's capable at times

1671
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 3: of doing that, but you're not gonna have to call

1672
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: his number at all times in order to advance, like

1673
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 3: a lot of these other teams that are so quarterback reliant.

1674
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff. The other game, by the way, any

1675
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: San Francisco takes, by the way, feel free to drop

1676
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: your San Francisco uniform. Take that you dropped an hour one.

1677
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: But other than that, any takeaways from the forty nine

1678
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: ers lost. They are now going to get a wild

1679
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 2: card in the NFC.

1680
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, you know, you had the chance

1681
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: to potentially go straight on through staying in your own

1682
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 3: building all the way through the Super Bowl, but now

1683
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: you're not going to have that. Party had two great

1684
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 3: games in a row. Seattle's defense just had their number.

1685
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 3: McCaffrey made an made the kind of error that you

1686
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 3: just don't see from him, didn't look the ball all

1687
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: the way into his hands, flipped out of his hands

1688
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 3: and then ends up being intercepted. And that was a

1689
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: play that was you know, inside the ten yard line,

1690
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 3: and that catch, if it had been a catch, would

1691
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 3: have been you know, probably first and goal from about

1692
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 3: the two or somewhere in that neighborhood. So it just was.

1693
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 3: It was a bad night for them, But it's gonna

1694
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 3: make their their path harder. And if you're San Francisco,

1695
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 3: you did not want You don't want that anyway. But

1696
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: San Francisco is banged up as they've been and what

1697
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: they've had to do during the course of the season,

1698
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 3: they're the kind of team that really could have benefited

1699
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 3: from being that one seed in this situation. My take earlier,

1700
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 3: just in case you missed the first hour of the show,

1701
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 3: it certainly you can podcast it wherever you get your podcast,

1702
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: Please do download it, rate it, review it, all that

1703
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 3: good stuff. It was just that, and I know the

1704
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 3: decision was made earlier, but with the division on the line,

1705
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 3: I'm pulling back on the wearing the different alternate jerseys

1706
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: with the different fonts. I'm especially doing so when I

1707
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 3: was watching you watching the broadcast. From a media perspective,

1708
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 3: is somebody that's called, you know, some high school games

1709
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 3: and some state championship games and all this kind of stuff.

1710
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 3: The most annoying thing of the world is the dark

1711
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: on dark wood, you can't actually see the numbers. But

1712
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 3: it's not as much about the media. It's about what

1713
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: is your quarterback seeing when he's looking down the field.

1714
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: There's a certain thing that he's looking for. He's gotten

1715
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: used to the way that Juwan Jennings moves, for example,

1716
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 3: But he also has gotten used to looking at a

1717
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: red jersey or a white jersey with a certain kind

1718
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 3: of numeral pattern. All this kind of stuff, this recognition,

1719
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: this routine, that's what he practices, that's what he's seen

1720
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 3: all season long, and tonight with the division on the line,

1721
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 3: you're wearing the blacks with the deep red with the

1722
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: gold trim on the outside, you've got black helmets on,

1723
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 3: and then your quarterback. It may not have an effect

1724
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: on him, I have no idea, but it would have

1725
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 3: an effect on me. I think even if it was

1726
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 3: a half second of a bit of a delay or something,

1727
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,799
Speaker 3: it's just a little bit off because it was harder

1728
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 3: to know who was on the field tonight just watching

1729
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 3: it on the broadcast. So I imagine it's got to be

1730
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 3: the same way for the quarterback who has gotten so

1731
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: used to how things look. And I'm not trying to

1732
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: change that up when the division and the number one

1733
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 3: seed in the playoffs are on the line. I know

1734
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: they had to make the call a long time ago,

1735
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 3: and I figured that was a case in DISAEGA verified

1736
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 3: that earlier in the show, but I would not do

1737
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 3: that again. Now. Did they think this was going to

1738
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 3: be for the division? Probably not, But I'm probably not

1739
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: rocking an alternate jersey in the last week of the

1740
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: season if I have playoff aspirations when I have to

1741
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,839
Speaker 3: make that decision, if I have to make that decision earlier.

1742
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 3: But I'm San Francisco, I assume I'm going to make

1743
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs, but that last game might actually be important

1744
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,759
Speaker 3: to seeding. So that's not where I'm going to debut

1745
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 3: these things. So I just didn't like that because it

1746
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 3: would have made me feel less comfortable if I was

1747
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 3: brock party, just because it's not what I'm used to.

1748
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 3: I'm having to look at things a little bit differently,

1749
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 3: and especially against a team like Seattle, that's just not

1750
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 3: what I would have wanted.

1751
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 2: Really quickly, an he takes on Tampa sixteen Carolina fourteen

1752
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 2: very quickly. That was the early game, and for people

1753
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 2: who did not hear Disaga at the top of the hour.

1754
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 2: With the win, Tampa now needs the New Orleans Saints

1755
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 2: to beat Atlanta on Sunday. They would be the NFC

1756
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: South champs at that point. If the Atlanta Falcons beat

1757
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints, Carolina would be your NFC South Champs.

1758
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Any big picture takeaways on this one?

1759
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 3: Jamartin Yeah, it was the second most recent NFL game

1760
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 3: that I've seen. That's really my take on it. Look

1761
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 3: the rain. It's hard to take anything away when you've

1762
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: got the monsoon out there. That didn't look like it

1763
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 3: was fun to play in at all. But Tampa Bay

1764
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 3: wins it at home. It's a close ball game. Neither

1765
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 3: one of those teams is anything that you're going to

1766
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 3: be particularly threatened by in the playoffs. I think that

1767
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 3: the Panthers, if they were to actually get in, I

1768
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 3: think that'd be a great story because it almost looked

1769
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 3: like their quarterback was a bus two years ago, and

1770
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 3: they've worked with him and he's done a lot of

1771
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 3: work as well to at least, you know, kind of

1772
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,839
Speaker 3: get himself to a much better baseline as a player,

1773
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 3: and I think Dave Canallys has actually done a pretty

1774
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 3: solid job as head coach there. They've been better than

1775
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 3: I think anybody felt like they would be, and you

1776
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 3: could kind of see it blossoming a bit down the

1777
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 3: stretch last year. Then they kind of hit a wall

1778
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: and this year they were able to actually do it,

1779
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 3: So that's more than I probably expected. I was going

1780
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 3: to say about the game, it's just, you know, somebody

1781
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 3: has to win that division, and that team's going to

1782
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 3: host a playoff game, and I would assume I'll have

1783
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 3: to look, we'll have to see exactly you know, what

1784
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: we're looking at there. But that's one that you could

1785
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: look at and say, yeah, that home team may be

1786
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 3: upset because I just don't think out of one of

1787
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 3: those two teams is ready yet for this moment. I

1788
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 3: feel like Tampa Bay they lost the mojo halfway through

1789
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 3: the season, dealt with a ton of injuries, and I

1790
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 3: think the Panthers feel a little ahead of schedule.

1791
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: So that was gonna be my only takeaway is I

1792
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: don't really think either team realistically is going to get

1793
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: a win in the playoffs, even with you know, clear

1794
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 2: home field advantages as the division winner. I do think

1795
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: Tampa just because a Baker, I would give them a

1796
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 2: puncher's chance against whoever they may face. The counter to

1797
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 2: that is I do care kind of like the Carolina story.

1798
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody on this network, everybody in sports media

1799
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: was talking about Bryce Young being done as an NFL quarterback,

1800
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 2: him bouncing back by the way, little inside stuff. But

1801
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,839
Speaker 2: Teto McMillan when he was going through the draft process,

1802
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: I have a buddy who covers Arizona that basically I

1803
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: don't know who it was or why, but there were

1804
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 2: people trying to slander t mac and he basically has

1805
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: been unbelievable. I think they said first Carolina receiver ever

1806
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 2: with a thousand yards as a rookie. I could be

1807
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: mistaken on that stat but cool story. Canalis is a

1808
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: cool story, remember too, remember too, J Martin. I know

1809
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 2: you know this, but they went through all those coaches,

1810
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 2: Frank Reich, Matt Ruhle. So I like the story. I say,

1811
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I like the story. And then it's gonna be the

1812
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 2: Saturday game next week and we're gonna have to talk

1813
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 2: about it when they lose by thirty to the Rams

1814
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: or something like that. So you know, we'll see what

1815
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: ends up happening. But yeah, so again to reset, Carolina

1816
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: needs the Atlanta Falcons to beat the New Orleans Saints.

1817
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: They would win the NFC South if that happens. The

1818
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks need Atlanta to beat New Orleans or

1819
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 2: they need New Orleans to beat Atlanta. Excuse me either way,

1820
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 2: both New Orleans and Atlanta have been eliminated. They're only

1821
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: playing spoiler on Sunday. Fox Sports Radio, Era Torres Jason

1822
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,719
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Week

1823
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: eighteen means a final set of regular season games. It

1824
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 2: also means that Monday we should see some major movement

1825
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: on the coaching carousel. Who's staying, who's going. We're gonna

1826
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 2: discuss it all next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

1827
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live. Yes, we

1828
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 2: are live at one twenty five Eastern time from the

1829
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. So Week eighteen, what do we got?

1830
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Three games? Technically in the books? Was that No, there

1831
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: was no Thursday night game this week, So two games

1832
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: in the books, which means, if my math is correct,

1833
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,759
Speaker 2: we'll have fourteen games on Sunday and Monday or just Sunday.

1834
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 3: Again.

1835
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 2: Not very good at this, but what it also means

1836
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 2: is come Monday. Listen. You hate to say, you know,

1837
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: you hate to talk about another man's job, but if

1838
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 2: you're not good at your job, you need to be replaced.

1839
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: And so obviously, in football circles, we know it as

1840
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: Black Monday, and producer Ian was grinding today and he said,

1841
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 2: you know, we should do a stay or go fired

1842
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: or not fired segment on who we expect to go

1843
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,799
Speaker 2: or who we think should go and what the argument

1844
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: would be.

1845
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 7: So I'll tell you what Tys should give us some Yeah,

1846
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 7: before you could even finish the seventh I'm gonna say

1847
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 7: this is the kind of music you walk in.

1848
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, crap, I'm getting fired. I can't say

1849
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: the word on air, but sh I hockey stick, I'm

1850
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 2: getting fired. Yeah, all right, Ian, let's go coach by

1851
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: coach of the realistic ones that we think are on

1852
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 2: the hot seat and J Martin I'll kind of give

1853
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: our opinions on if they will be back next season

1854
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 2: or not.

1855
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, yeah, I saw this one in the news

1856
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 7: just this morning. But Kevin Stefanski of the Browns, would

1857
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 7: you guys personally fire him or retain him?

1858
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: So I'll go first. You know, very interesting resume to say,

1859
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: the least two playoff appearances for losing seasons. Outside of that, now,

1860
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: one of the seasons was eight and nine, So whatever.

1861
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: I think the big question for me is he clearly

1862
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: doesn't believe in Shadoor Sanders. I don't think Deshaun Watson

1863
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 2: is the future. So what are we doing at quarterback?

1864
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 2: And is he the best person to develop that person?

1865
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: And I, by the way, I think that's gonna be

1866
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 2: a lot of the theme of this conversation. A lot

1867
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 2: of the coaches that are on the hot seat don't

1868
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 2: have the long term answer quarterback. I actually have no

1869
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 2: strong opinion on this. I guess my question would be,

1870
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 2: does Jimmy Haslam think Shadoor Sanders is the long term answer?

1871
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 2: Clearly Kevin Stefanski doesn't believe in him. If he doesn't think,

1872
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: if he doesn't want Shador to be the long term answer,

1873
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: then what is the answer. I would actually lean with

1874
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: bringing back Stefanski personally, But to Ian's point, earlier reports

1875
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: are that it's likely. I think Diana Rossini said that

1876
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 2: people are operating under the expectation that he might not

1877
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: be back next year.

1878
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he strikes me as the kind of guy that

1879
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 3: probably gets an opportunity pretty quick somewhere else. Maybe it's

1880
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 3: just this is just kind of run its course, and

1881
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 3: maybe just as much for him as the organization, like

1882
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 3: it just hasn't long term it just hadn't worked the

1883
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson situation, and now you've got Sanders and Gabriel

1884
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 3: and you're you're just not right now. You're just not

1885
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 3: a competitive team in the way you need to be.

1886
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 3: And he is supposed to be a really prolific offensive mind.

1887
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: You've seen it at times, but it's not like he's

1888
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 3: not beating down Kyle Shanahan's door or anything like that

1889
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 3: at this point. So I think he's going to be

1890
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 3: elsewhere next season. I think they'll move on. I think

1891
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 3: he'll be fine, though maybe he's an OZ for a

1892
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 3: year or it takes a year off, but he's a

1893
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 3: guy that will get another opportunity because he's still really

1894
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 3: well respected in the NFL circles. He's just I mean,

1895
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 3: you're with the Cleveland Browns. That's a place where dreams

1896
01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 3: go to die.

1897
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a good call. That probably should have been.

1898
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 2: My answer is he probably will get let go and

1899
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 2: somebody will probably scoop him up.

1900
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 7: Ian who's next? How about Pete Carroll? Guys, is he

1901
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 7: gonna be a one and done here with the Raiders?

1902
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 3: What do you think? That's a tough one man, Like,

1903
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 3: it's tough to say, because I mean, he's been a

1904
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 3: very successful head coach. But man, this is this is

1905
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 3: just this has gone worse than anybody could have imagined.

1906
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 3: And I don't know that that organization is particularly patient

1907
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 3: based on recent history. I think they want to be good,

1908
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 3: but I also think that they need to kind of

1909
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 3: almost tear it down to the studs and rebuild. I

1910
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 3: I think he's done. I don't think they're bringing him back.

1911
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 3: I think one year Pete Carroll is going to be

1912
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 3: right back listening to Green Day, back at home.

1913
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 2: I believe he and he's a professor at USC in

1914
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 2: the one year, so he'll be back in the classroom.

1915
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 2: So I actually, to me, so a couple things. One,

1916
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: I do get the notion of the fact that TEI

1917
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 2: Sha where the music go I need the music.

1918
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Wasn't on loop, he didn't hit repeat.

1919
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 2: I need to repeat. I need some music. Put us

1920
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 2: in the mood. Thank you all right, Pete Carroll. So

1921
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: what I would say is this, I actually think to me,

1922
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 2: it's a no brainer. On the one hand, I understand

1923
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 2: the Raiders have had five coaches, including obviously in terms

1924
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 2: with Rich Bassaccia and Antonio Pierce, who then became the

1925
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 2: full time head coach, but five head coaches since twenty

1926
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 2: twenty one. There's two reasons why I think that Pete

1927
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Carroll should be fired. He's clearly not the long term answer.

1928
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: And you are gonna have the number one overall pick,

1929
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: you need to go get Fernando Mendoza and no different

1930
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 2: than Ben Johnson with Caleb Williams, no different than even

1931
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: David Canalis. I know he wasn't there year one for

1932
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. Go get the next young offensive guy and

1933
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But Fernando Mendoza is

1934
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 2: not or Dante Moore or whoever you take it, quarterback

1935
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 2: is not going to be the best version of themselves

1936
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 2: with Pete Carroll quarterback at coach. Excuse me, I actually

1937
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 2: think it's relatively a no brainer. Let's do one more

1938
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 2: then we'll get over to the news desk for de Seger.

1939
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 2: Who's up next to you next.

1940
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 7: I have seen reports that this guy's job is safe,

1941
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 7: but might be more of a hypothetical then, But Aaron

1942
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 7: Glenn of the Jets, what do you guys think?

1943
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be a one and done or no?

1944
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 2: What do you think? Jmartin?

1945
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 3: I think he's back I mean like he's certainly, but

1946
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 3: then the Jets are so bad the quarterback situation is

1947
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to make of that. But

1948
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 3: nothing is good there almost It hasn't been good there

1949
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 3: in a very, very long time. It's hard to point

1950
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: at Aaron Glenn and say he's the issue, just like

1951
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 3: honestly pointing it at Robert Sala and saying he was

1952
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 3: the issue. I think he's gonna get another year, and

1953
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 3: I think he'll be fired next year because I don't

1954
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be good next year either.

1955
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: All I'll say my only concern he's a defensive guy.

1956
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 2: It's worked outing by the way. The Lions defense fell

1957
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: apart last year, but thirtieth in scoring defense this year,

1958
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 2: twenty third in total defense. But part of that is,

1959
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: of course, he traded Quentin Williams, traded Sauce Gardner.

1960
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,480
Speaker 7: You traded a lot, don't forget zero interceptions too. Yeah,

1961
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 7: so you know, I don't think he's the answer, but

1962
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 7: you are not. I guess my question is you're not.

1963
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 7: What is the quarterback situation going? It's next year, and

1964
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 7: are you just gonna fire another head coach to bring

1965
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 7: in another you know, you know, to bring in another

1966
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 7: head coach without a coordinate, without the quarterback. I almost

1967
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 7: think by default, especially when you traded away so much

1968
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 7: at the trade deadline, I.

1969
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Kind of feel like you owe it to him to

1970
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 2: give him another year. Listen, I'm not gonna be crying.

1971
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna be bawling on air if

1972
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn is not the Jets head coach by the

1973
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 2: next time that we're on air. As Ian said, he's

1974
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 2: expected to be back, and I think that he probably

1975
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 2: will be got a couple more names to run through,

1976
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 2: including the big names in the AFC North. Is the

1977
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 2: loser of the winner go home game in the AFC

1978
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 2: North tomorrow on Sunday, Week eighteen. Is he also headed

1979
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 2: for the unemployment line. We'll discuss that next before we

1980
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 2: do the final time this evening for our show, Steve

1981
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 2: Disaga was trending Hello again. We'll get to the NFL

1982
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 2: in a moment.

1983
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 6: The late game in college hoops is done in triple

1984
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 6: overtime at San Diego State the Aztec Speed Boise. He

1985
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 6: stayed one ten to one oh seven. Earlier in college hoops,

1986
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 6: SMU defeated number twelve North Carolina Duke won a close

1987
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 6: one at Florida State ninety one eighty seven. UCF upset

1988
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 6: number seventeen Kansas, Arkansas, i beat Tennessee, Missouri over number

1989
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 6: twenty two Florida. Tonight, seventy six seventy four Iowa beat UCLA.

1990
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 6: Georgia won in overtime against Auburn one oh four to

1991
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 6: one hundred. In women hoops, Number one, Yukon won its

1992
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 6: thirty first straight game, beating seat in all eighty four

1993
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 6: forty eight. Number four UCLA dominated seventeenth ranked USC eighty

1994
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 6: to forty six, and Utah beat number eight TCU in

1995
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 6: women's hoops in overtime eighty seven seventy seven. To the NFL,

1996
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 6: the Seattle Seahawks clinch the NFC's number one seed tonight

1997
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 6: with a win at San Francisco thirteen to three. Seattle

1998
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 6: is NFC West Champs Jackson Smith in Jigmo six catches

1999
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 6: eighty four yards. Seahawks have won seven in a row.

2000
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 6: Their last home playoff game was twenty twenty no fans

2001
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 6: in the stadium, they lost it, but Seattle has won

2002
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 6: its last ten home playoff games with fans in attendance,

2003
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 6: third longest home winning streak. In NFL playoff history. They

2004
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 6: have home field advantage now and the Seahawks are a

2005
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 6: one seed in the playoffs for the fourth time in

2006
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 6: franchise history. Every time the Seattle Seahawks have been a

2007
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 6: one seed, they have made the Super Bowl all in

2008
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 6: the last ten twelve years. San Francisco could fall to

2009
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 6: the sixth seed. Green Bay will be number seven. That's

2010
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 6: locked in San Francisco twelve and five on the season.

2011
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 6: They did get tight end George Kittle back from the

2012
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 6: ankle injury. At five catches twenty nine yards, Christian McCaffrey

2013
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 6: eight carries twenty three yards rushing, Kenneth Walker sixteen carries

2014
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 6: ninety seven yards for Seattle, and Zach Sharbinha had seventy

2015
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 6: four yards rushing In a score. San Francisco's offense eight drives,

2016
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 6: nine first downs, Seattle on red zone tds zero for three.

2017
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 6: It could have been worse, thirteen three Seattle. The final,

2018
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,919
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay and the Rain beat Carolina sixteen fourteen Panthers

2019
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 6: with three turnovers. It was sixteen to seven late in

2020
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 6: the game. Baker Mayfield one touchdown, one interception, his ninth

2021
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 6: interception in the last eight games. Chase McLoughlin three for

2022
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 6: four on field goals. This Bucks team had lost seven

2023
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 6: of eight, and yet they could be NFC South champs.

2024
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 6: If Atlanta loses on Sunday and Panthers each eight and nine,

2025
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 6: one of them is going to be that division's champ.

2026
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 6: If Atlanta wins Sunday, Carolina takes the division. Bucks tight

2027
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 6: end Kate Outen had seven receptions today, ninety four yards

2028
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 6: in a score Bucky Irving eighty five yards rushing. Meanwhile,

2029
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 6: the Panthers as a team fourteen carries just nineteen yards

2030
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 6: rushing on third down conversions. Carolina one for eight, Tampa

2031
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 6: Bay eight four fifteen. The Bucks were up ten nothing

2032
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 6: after their first true drives held on at the end

2033
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 6: on the rainy day. Ravens wide receiver Rashad Bateman is

2034
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 6: out Sunday night due to illness. The season finale is

2035
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh against the Ravens, and pass rusher for the Steelers TJ.

2036
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 6: Watt will play. He's missed the last three games with

2037
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 6: the lung injury. Jets running back Brease Hall is out

2038
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 6: with a knee injury. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen returned to

2039
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 6: limited practice yesterday, should start Sunday. Vikings QB JJ McCarthy

2040
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 6: will start after the broken hand, but running back Aaron

2041
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 6: Jones is out with a hip injury. Dolphins running back

2042
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 6: to Von Hen was listed as down full with a

2043
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 6: shoulder injury after missing practice all week. On to injured

2044
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 6: reserve two Cowboy running backs Javonte Williams and Malik Davis,

2045
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,839
Speaker 6: they'll be at the Giants. Giants' best wide receiver, Wondale

2046
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 6: Robinson is on ir now with a rib injury. Quarterback

2047
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert will not play their finale at Denver, and

2048
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 6: Chargers first round running back O Marion Hampton out tomorrow

2049
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 6: with an ankle injury. The Rams will play their starters

2050
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 6: on Sunday, regardless of the weekend outcome of games. Wide

2051
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 6: receiver Davante Adams was limited in practice Friday with the

2052
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 6: bad hamstring. The Rams did activate tight end Tyler Higbee.

2053
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 6: While the college playoff semi finals are Thursday and Friday,

2054
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 6: news today that quarterback Drew Mestemaker committed to Oklahoma State,

2055
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 6: transferring from North Texas. In the NBA late game, the

2056
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 6: Celtics got fifty points from Jalen Brown in a win

2057
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 6: at the Clippers one forty six to one fifteen, Celtics

2058
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 6: winning with a dominant second half against a Clippers team

2059
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 6: that had won six straight. Warriors thirty one points from

2060
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 6: Steph Curry and beat Utah Dallas over Houston despite thirty

2061
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 6: four points from Kevin Durant, Houston center Alpera and Shannguon

2062
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 6: left with an ankle injury, and the seventy six ers won.

2063
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 6: At New York won thirty to one nineteen, again a

2064
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 6: win for the Seahawks and a one seed as the

2065
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 6: forty nine er offense is almost a complete no show,

2066
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 6: and remember they'd had those shootouts the last couple of weeks.

2067
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 6: In particular, they've been averaging about thirty five points a

2068
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 6: game during this six game winning streak. No touchdown tonight,

2069
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 6: just three points against the Seattle defense.

2070
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,600
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sagre, have

2071
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 2: a great evening, Disagrea, be back on Sunday. Fox Sports

2072
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

2073
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Ian. Let's keep it going, ty Shirt,

2074
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 2: give us some sort of me o. Hoh, my goodness

2075
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: already and I teased it. Who we get into next?

2076
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 7: All right, let's move over to the Steelers Ravens game.

2077
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 7: How about Mike Tomlin? You think he'll be there with

2078
01:49:58,120 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 7: the Steelers after this long, long.

2079
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 2: Time he's had. Yuh, I'll go first, Ye start with you, Aaron?

2080
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 3: My bad?

2081
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's okay. I think he'll be back.

2082
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 2: If I was running the Steelers, this sounds this is

2083
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 2: probably gonna sound weird. I would want to know what

2084
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is gonna do first, because I think Aaron Rodgers,

2085
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: if he wants to come back, has earned another year,

2086
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 2: and I don't see the point in making the inevitable

2087
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,600
Speaker 2: coaching change. But I do think if you're going to

2088
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 2: have to draft a quarterback or bring somebody in new

2089
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 2: or next year is going to be some sort of

2090
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 2: weird bridge year, then just go ahead and pull the

2091
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: plug on Mike Tomlin. He will be the head coach

2092
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. But that is how

2093
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 2: I would approach it if I was Steelers' ownership, I think.

2094
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 3: We'll be back to all the indicators are they're not

2095
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 3: considering getting rid of him. If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'm

2096
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 3: gonna take it from a different perspective. Oh, if I'm

2097
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin. I'm considering pulling a Kyle Whittingham, a stepping down,

2098
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: stepping away from it, because like the Giants will probably

2099
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 3: go right after him. Like a bunch of teams would

2100
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 3: love to have Mike Tomlin in the building, especially ones

2101
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 3: that have dealt with some discipline issues and things like

2102
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 3: that on their team. You know, he's still got a

2103
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 3: ton of respect, even though his teams haven't won a

2104
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 3: playoff game in like nine years or something like that,

2105
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 3: but just as a ton of respect, and I think

2106
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 3: he gets another opportunity if he wants it. I mean,

2107
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 3: that'd be up to him, but I would consider walking

2108
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 3: away if I didn't think that next year was going

2109
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 3: to be significantly different. And to your point, the Aaron

2110
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers decision plays into that. If I'm the Steelers, I'm

2111
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 3: not sure why I keep doing the exact same thing,

2112
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 3: except that I don't think a new coach is going

2113
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 3: to be the answer next year. There's some bigger things

2114
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 3: that need to change in Pittsburgh, and I'm not sure

2115
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 3: Tomlin is really the issue, and I don't think they

2116
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 3: think so either, So I think he'll be back.

2117
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Rather than rushing through the last

2118
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 2: couple names. I'm having fun doing this, so we'll come

2119
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: back talk John Harbaugh's future if the Ravens do not win,

2120
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, what is gonna happen with him? Jonathan Gannon,

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Speaker 2: He's gotta go right Black Monday Coming air, Tors Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin making our predictions. Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody,

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Speaker 2: get off air. What do they need to do? Ty Shirt?

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Speaker 2: There we go the pod. You know what we need

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Speaker 2: to do. We need to finish our thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: coaching care sol Week eighteen ME fourteen playoff spots will

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Speaker 2: officially be clinched tomorrow and also mean some coaches could

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Speaker 2: be gone. We talked about Mike Tomlin if he were

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Speaker 2: to lose the game on Saturday or Sunday, if he

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Speaker 2: should be back, I think we're gonna go to John

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Speaker 2: Harbonugh next, is that right?

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Speaker 3: Ian? Go for it?

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Speaker 2: How about John Harba? Do you think he's with the

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Speaker 2: Ravens next year? I'll give it to you, Jay mart What.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I think he is? I think that

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Speaker 3: this season's been It's been rough, no question about that.

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Speaker 3: I just I can't get on board with the narrative

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Speaker 3: that either the Ravens or the Steelers are cutting bait

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Speaker 3: on those guys. They usually don't make super rash decisions.

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Speaker 3: Not that this hasn't been something you would think about

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Speaker 3: for a while, potentially, I just kind of those two guys.

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel like this is the year. I

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Speaker 3: think that if Baltimore were to come back next year

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Speaker 3: and do this again, maybe we have this conversation. But

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Speaker 3: John Harball, what he's meant to that franchise, the amount

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Speaker 3: of wins that they've had, and they've been better than

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in recent years. If I think Tom Win's coming back,

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Speaker 3: I have to think Baltimore is going to take the

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Speaker 3: long the long game here and give him another year

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Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, show that this year just

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Speaker 3: didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be kind of surprised that this narrative has

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Speaker 2: kind of emerged over the last couple you know, weeks

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Listen. I understand, especially early in the year

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Speaker 2: when Lamar was healthy, they weren't playing well. They started

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Speaker 2: one to three overall with Lamar in the lineup, losses

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Speaker 2: to Casey, Detroit and Buffalo. The counter to that is,

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Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't think the coaching is like

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Speaker 2: so bad that whatever. Like, I don't think now is

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Speaker 2: the time that you cut bait. If Lamar clearly regresses

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Speaker 2: again next year and it's not injury related, he's just

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Speaker 2: getting worse than I think, it's a different conversation. I

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Speaker 2: could be wrong. I don't feel like he's lost the locker.

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Speaker 3: Room or anything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, listen, it was a weird you

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Speaker 2: dealt with the Lamar injury early in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the season. You ripped off five straight wins. Yes, there

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Speaker 2: were some struggles starting around Thanksgiving Day, But I don't know,

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Speaker 2: to me, this feels like a great sports talk radio

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Speaker 2: topic that I just don't feel like is anywhere close

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Speaker 2: to being something that is actually gonna happen. So I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. I think he's back next year.

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Speaker 7: Well, we've done most of the rest of the division.

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Speaker 7: So let's go over to Zach Taylor of the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: You think he's with the team next year, And let

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Speaker 7: me add I have seen the Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 7: and t Higgins have all put their support behind him internally.

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Speaker 3: Well that's true, then yeah, he'll be back. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the whole point is they sit down with Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase are probably the two big wins

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Speaker 3: with maybe all three, and they just say, hey, do

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Speaker 3: you want him back? And if the answer to that

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Speaker 3: question is yes, and I mean behind closed doors where

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Speaker 3: they can actually say what's on their mind, if their

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Speaker 3: answer is yes, especially Burrows, then he's back. This whole

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Speaker 3: franchise rests on Joe Burrow, and obviously his health is

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Speaker 3: part of that. He's gotta be happy and that's been

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Speaker 3: a bit of a question mark over the last six

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Speaker 3: seven weeks or so. So I think that's what it

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Speaker 3: comes down to. I think he's back as long as

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow gives him the thumbs up, and that's what

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Speaker 3: he's at least doing publicly. Again, I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get him a thumbs down publicly, so we got

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Speaker 3: to make sure that's what's behind closed doors. But I

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Speaker 3: tend to think Zach is probably safe if the guys

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Speaker 3: are behind him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe I'm just not doing my job.

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Speaker 2: I actually did not see that either, So great job

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Speaker 2: Ian on that. Yeah, I don't. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: much else to add Joe Burrow, especially given some of

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Speaker 2: the recent comments about not being happy. You know whatever,

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Speaker 2: you gotta keep him happy, and so yes, I think

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Speaker 2: it's almost no brainer if they want him. The organization

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Speaker 2: is also very historically cheap, so that probably helps. I

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Speaker 2: would assume he's back. We got time for one more

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Speaker 2: touching up, but we got we got time for a

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Speaker 2: one or two. We got time. Okay, we got time.

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Speaker 2: Who's up the back show? Let's run it back, all right?

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle is gonna be mad if we don't get

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Speaker 2: to him in nine minutes, but he and who we

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Speaker 2: got real quick.

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Speaker 7: Next up, let's get to Jonathan Gannon of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 7: You guys think he's back with the Cardinals next year,

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Speaker 7: And now start with you j Martin.

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Speaker 3: I think that that was trending in the right direction

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Speaker 3: for him, and then it has taken a bit of

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Speaker 3: a nose dive. They're a mess trying to figure out

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Speaker 3: what that offense is going to be. The Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: thing is something that they're going to have to work

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Speaker 3: their way through. Jacoby Brissette has been has done a

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Speaker 3: really nice job for them. I feel like Wilson's been

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Speaker 3: a real fine for them as well. He may have

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Speaker 3: actually supplanted Harrison Junior at least in the short term,

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Speaker 3: as the one that the quarterback trusts the most. But

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Speaker 3: the defense has been terrible. When Jonathan Gannon, if I'm

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Speaker 3: not mistaken, was the defensive coordinator in Philadelphia, which you

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Speaker 3: know got him that job, and the defense has been

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Speaker 3: absolutely dreadful. I think he's done. I mean, some of

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Speaker 3: these coaches have got to be done. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: be nice as I'm going through this. I feel like,

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Speaker 3: but I think I think the Cardinals. The Cardinals are

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Speaker 3: a team that don't get a whole lot of time,

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Speaker 3: and so I look at that and I say, Gannon's

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Speaker 3: probably done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one actually does feel pretty obviously, pretty obvious

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Speaker 2: to me. As well that I think he's done as well.

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Speaker 2: Is it right? Is it wrong? I have never been

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Speaker 2: a Kyler Murray guy. And it's not even a knock

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Speaker 2: on Kyler Murray. It's just he's a five to ten

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Speaker 2: quarterback that runs around. It's hard to survive in this

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Speaker 2: league doing that. And so I just bring it up

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Speaker 2: because year three for Jonathan Gannon, yet to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: yet to have a winning record. I do also think

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Speaker 2: there is something too, like what do you do at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position? But to answer your question, I think

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Speaker 2: he's out as well. I think we got about thirty

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Speaker 2: seconds left for one more. Who we got Todd Bowles?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: How about Todd Bowles of the Tampa Bay Bucks. You

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Speaker 7: think he's back in Tampa Bay next year?

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Speaker 2: So I think it partially depends on I guess, probably

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Speaker 2: what happens tomorrow if the New Orleans Saints win. I

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Speaker 2: guess if Atlanta wins. I forget the scenarios, We've gone

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Speaker 2: over them a million times. If they're in, I can't

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Speaker 2: see them letting him go.

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Speaker 3: It is worth.

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Speaker 2: The last year was weird where they tried to keep

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen like as a coach and waiting kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So it feels like Todd Bowles has been up for conversation,

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Speaker 2: but he's made the playoffs every year. I can't see

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Speaker 2: him being out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think so. Although, man, you talk

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Speaker 3: about a team that fell apart and that that Thursday

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Speaker 3: game that they lost is still going to weigh heavily,

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Speaker 3: I think. But yeah, I think he. I think he'll

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Speaker 3: be back next year. They're gonna need to make the

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Speaker 3: playoffs though, especially if they miss out this year.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what we gotta get out of here one?

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Speaker 2: I think the Crew Alex Ty shirt, the rare Saturday

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Speaker 2: appearance on the board. Ian Martin, Steve de Sega from

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Speaker 2: my partner Jason Martin.

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Speaker 3: I'm Air Tours.

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