WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 408

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod meets Tworld, a podcast from two guys

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<v Speaker 1>who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we turned to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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<v Speaker 1>while Will is convinced that he could win it. We

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<v Speaker 1>are Wilfred Ellen Ryder Strong. Two best friends, one's a

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<v Speaker 1>TV expert, one's a TV skeptic, both dance scholars join

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<v Speaker 1>us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets

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<v Speaker 1>Tworld Trading Places. How you feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't understand why I wear the

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<v Speaker 2>robe anymore. I'm be honest. I went to go grad

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<v Speaker 2>it like I forgot my robe, and I'm like, no

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<v Speaker 2>one is ever going to see this. What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just hot. It's like your superhero underwear, though, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>it make you feel better?

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<v Speaker 2>The superhero underwear is an actual medical thing, right that

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<v Speaker 2>truly helps people and makes them Yeah, that's science. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just this is just for all, This is just fun.

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, this is shenanigans. I'm taking it

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<v Speaker 2>off now, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like you gotta we got to up

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<v Speaker 1>our costume game if we're going to do it, so

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<v Speaker 1>like you got to bust it out halfway through our

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<v Speaker 1>recording or masks traders masks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to wear a gold mask just because

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be cool. I mean, I think my

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<v Speaker 2>mask game is not strong. I don't know about you yours.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean do you have Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>seven like meaning like at your home if you had

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<v Speaker 2>to pick from them?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have several masks because of Indie like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't otherwise I wouldn't own masks. No, but you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a strong mask game. Oh my god. We have so

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<v Speaker 1>many masks. And Andy likes the really over the top

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<v Speaker 1>ones too, Like he has some really ugly ones and

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<v Speaker 1>creepy ones. And then we've done like a Squid Games

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<v Speaker 1>themed birthday party for him. So I got like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those like golden guy masks to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good games could happen, It's good games could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>could be real.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I kind of just want a vacation

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<v Speaker 1>in the Trader's Castle. That's what I've realized.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then go to Ashford Castle and go to Ashford

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<v Speaker 2>Castle in County Mayo and that's the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this actual castle. No, no, no, that's not this castle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just an awesome vacations like one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>hotels in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I went there for a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days, that's where we were walking the Irish countryside falconing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we literally had falcons on our arms and walking the

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<v Speaker 2>Irish countryside. It was the Guinness family's summer like get away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and it's the most insane food, the most insane hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest spa.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this time's one thousand. Yeah, watching the show. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's my overwhelming filming nowadays, Salmon and Cook that I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to be in this castle. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to walk around the grounds. It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I know, I know, and it's but there's also

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<v Speaker 2>I want the pump and the circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the of the game. I don't think I can

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<v Speaker 1>handle it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also just like as the group gets smaller and

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<v Speaker 1>like I can, I can wrap my head around like

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<v Speaker 1>who's who a lot easier now I'm very here on

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<v Speaker 1>who everybody is. So when they're all like at breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>now like about I'm like, stop, we get it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just want everybody and that would drive me crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the light. You don't want to the top

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<v Speaker 1>to be at breakfast every morning. I would just be

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<v Speaker 1>like the second, like second Johnny shows up with a

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<v Speaker 1>veil on in front of his head, I'd be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing? What are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>We're here just for breakfast And then and then you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're going to be running around in some mud,

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<v Speaker 1>So why did you dress? I would just can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. How do you eat your yogurt through a veil?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>How's the smoke? Sam would make it? I know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the pomp and circumstance gets more ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>when there's are they still doing this? When there's four

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<v Speaker 1>of them at the end, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of like they're bags. Think about how big

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<v Speaker 1>their bags would would have to be to fit all

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<v Speaker 1>this clothing in Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what kind of bags you talk about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you meant under their eyes from the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Candae is wearing like a cow fur jacket, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know how much that's like an entire bag unto itself,

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<v Speaker 1>And she has one of those every episode. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the whole show is shot over what a week? Ten days?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that I mean for ten days, she's got

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<v Speaker 2>to have five suitcases.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my six suitcases. They have like a whole suv

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<v Speaker 1>just for their suitcase. They have like a moving truck

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the castle. I've perfected the art of

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<v Speaker 1>like and you you you you have too, and we

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<v Speaker 1>do conventions and stuff. We get our bags to that

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<v Speaker 1>one carry on no matter what because oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>and about anything more. And that's that's back with like

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<v Speaker 1>my computer and my books, and then the one carry

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<v Speaker 1>on anything more than that for any vacation. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>too much, I agree. Yeah, all right, Robin Candice a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode. Yeah, you know, here's what. Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>into the showiness of it all, like you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like hanging out, but I'm I'm definitely into

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<v Speaker 1>the people now and seeing Robin Cantas go at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been super like they're just great, isn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? And I feel like, yeah, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like everybody now, like yeah, so and then

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<v Speaker 1>well they're playing well better, you know, at least I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're playing now, So yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a good episode. I feel like I know

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<v Speaker 1>who everybody is like when it comes.

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<v Speaker 2>To people so good at this game, Yeah, he's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so good at this game. Not only is he

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<v Speaker 2>puppet mastering everything, but people are literally walking away going like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe anybody would put his name down. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like that guy. You think it's that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>God, so good, you know what I mean. It's magical.

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<v Speaker 1>So opening up, they're meeting up in the turret and

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<v Speaker 1>like immediately Canda says like, Rob's the dangerous type that

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<v Speaker 1>will stab you in the back, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like literally, Actually what she said was even better.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, we'll look you in the eye, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>stab you in the back right, And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but how do you stab you in the back when

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking somebody in the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said to her, I'm voting for you for

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<v Speaker 1>this reason. I mean, he's he's clearly stated all of

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<v Speaker 1>his intentions up front. He's just playing better than her.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing he keeps to himself is that Colton

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<v Speaker 1>threw her name out, which is super smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he kept It's also he's playing with no emotion, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not attack.

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<v Speaker 1>He was bummed that Colton was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's like taking things personally and making bad decisions

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<v Speaker 2>because of that. And he's like, I'm playing a game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a game of chess, and this is the next

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<v Speaker 2>piece I have to move.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's it's to me. It's like, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the fun. That's how you actually win it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a trader, you know, like being a faithful

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can play emotionally because it is just

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<v Speaker 1>about convincing people like no, I'm being honest, but like

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<v Speaker 1>when you have to lie when that's part of your job, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pull the emotion out of it. Just and then Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Commins walks into the turret and gives the best line

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode. I'm sensing awkwardness.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, I do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like something I should say to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while. I got awkwardness in my turret. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna I've got a little awkwardness my turret.

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<v Speaker 1>When you wear that outfit, it gives me awkwardness in

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<v Speaker 1>my turret. All right. Rob immediately was like, we should enlist,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is smart too. Like, why not because

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, but no, they decide to murder yep,

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<v Speaker 1>which I just think was a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, again I think and giving giving her the

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<v Speaker 2>power kind of like I'm going to give you just

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<v Speaker 2>enough for up.

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<v Speaker 1>To hang yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go ahead, go ahead, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, right man? It's like, oh, first you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to kill Colton. Dumb idea. He was loud and

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<v Speaker 2>brashing on everybody's list of as a possible trader, so

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<v Speaker 2>keep him there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just yes, she was. What she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know is that Colton had already thrown out her name.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, yeah, I can't believe like Colton is

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<v Speaker 1>going people will suspect him, people are over him. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about somebody like him exactly. So he's alreat

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<v Speaker 1>even put in check. They have thrown out Stephen, Colton

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<v Speaker 1>and Natalie, and I think Steven or Natalie would have

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<v Speaker 1>been great decisions. Either one of those would have been

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<v Speaker 1>better than Colton. Yeah, I agree. And then did you

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<v Speaker 1>notice that Rob then immediately makes the chess comparison, just

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<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, like you were so right, He's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's generally just playing chess. So he moves ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like, I don't have her in check yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just took her queen and it's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh he's operating on this, Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's doing things like again, never judge a

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<v Speaker 2>book by its cover. Then he's doing things like quoting

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<v Speaker 2>Twain and doing it. It's like, oh, this guy's a

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<v Speaker 2>freaking genius.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's amazing. I wonder if how how much they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that, because it's like they chose two housewives him

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<v Speaker 1>and then the secret trader is Donna, right, like, so

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<v Speaker 1>how much of the producers like foresee this did they

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<v Speaker 1>like meet with him and and be like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's got a lot more going on then maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like what are your favorite things?

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<v Speaker 2>So I like, yeah, you never know, but he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's super collated. Great, he's killing it all right Breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>Derinda comes in saying that she was packing because she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think she was like whatever, but mostly she just

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<v Speaker 1>never thought that it could be Lisa, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>just goes to show how bad she is.

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<v Speaker 2>This kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yes, when somebody's your friend or a housewife,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that they're not you couldn't also be

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<v Speaker 1>a trader. Like they all need to just stop thinking like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well he or she's my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, you've met them six days ago to

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<v Speaker 2>play a game where some of you are lying to

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what it is. They're like saying I

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<v Speaker 1>love you to each other when they go to bed

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<v Speaker 1>at night, and I almost.

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<v Speaker 2>An actor thing, you know that we're all like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we were all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so my brother when.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother came out to watch Boy Meets Old one time,

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<v Speaker 2>he came out to the show and we were we

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<v Speaker 2>finished taping and we were all like god, I love

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<v Speaker 2>you and hugging each other, and he's like, aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>seeing each other tomorrow morning?

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<v Speaker 1>We're like yeah, and he's like, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Like, well, like what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that kind of thing where it's like, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to see you in twelve hours. It's no big deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's it's such an entertainer thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a camera trying to hug me. Well, then push and run,

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<v Speaker 2>push and run.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I mean, yes, I definitely was

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<v Speaker 1>like way much more of a hugger and much more

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<v Speaker 1>free with like saying I love you and stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that when I was on Boy with World. But turns

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<v Speaker 1>out to be mostly correct because I do still love

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that we worked with. I still have relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>so many of you. Yeah, so it's like, uh, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in general, as I've gotten older, a much

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<v Speaker 1>more uncomfortable with that sort of la Hollywood thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just La Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not New York. New York is not the same

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<v Speaker 2>way it was. At least it wasn't when I was

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<v Speaker 2>coming up New York in the eighties. Was not love you,

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<v Speaker 2>hugging you see tomorrow. It's like, yeah, I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>wake up. So yeah, it's uh, good night. Well maybe

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<v Speaker 2>yeah it was great, so but it is. They're all

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<v Speaker 2>just they're very flowery actory people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See again the culture, I would not not really

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<v Speaker 1>fit into it. I would be such an asshole on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Dude, you know it too. You know, by

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<v Speaker 1>day three, I would just be that grumpy guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. Everybody's like, well, first of all, they would

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<v Speaker 1>probably suspect me because I would be protesting way too much,

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<v Speaker 1>and she'd be like, no, I'm a horrible liar. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't lie. I'm sorry, And then they would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>well I can't trust him.

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<v Speaker 2>I voted for you rider no real reason. I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't take it anymore. I don't think you're a trader.

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<v Speaker 1>I just just I can't just want to don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you in my castle.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when we had that conversation about like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what our impression is just by looking at us?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this with mccaulla our tour guide, our

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<v Speaker 1>tour Oh? We were just like I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will Danielle really get a pass in life? Because when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at them, they're just they're just so friendly

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful. Everybody wants to And McCall is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, so when you look at Will, what's his zero? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what? She's like, just friend, want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know him. He likes me, And I'm like, what about me?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, you think you're smarter than me? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you're better? You know you heard this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this is a truth. She's like, no, now

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<v Speaker 1>I know you, but I'm just saying what you look like? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so yeah, that's my zero. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure in this world, in Trader's world, they would just

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<v Speaker 1>be like that guy thinks he's so much better than all, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>get him out of here. Oh that's so funny. He

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<v Speaker 1>also doesn't try very hard in the challenges. You could

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<v Speaker 1>have run harder rider all right. At breakfast, uh Wara

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<v Speaker 1>brings up Candace and talked about how the throwaway vote

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<v Speaker 1>made her suspicious, which was brill actually accurate, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course is the thing that comes back at the round table.

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<v Speaker 1>Candace defends her throwaway vote, but I just don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, because it's if she was gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>away a vote, why didn't she vote for Natalie, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if she really didn't want it to be It's like

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<v Speaker 1>and it just goes to show that she made this

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<v Speaker 1>move out of a petty impulse right towards Rob And

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<v Speaker 1>so that totally backfires, like exactly what you're saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be emotional, Like, don't be because that like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>could see that as a useless move and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would she do that? Yep, yeah, and anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of those things that's like in

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<v Speaker 2>the being in this house is like being child. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>that makes you different is not good, right, So her

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<v Speaker 2>just pointing something out that's so out of the norm

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<v Speaker 2>that because everybody you're you're micro concentrating on everybody's little move,

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<v Speaker 2>any little thing, can't drop this fork he did this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're hyper vigilant to everything going on around you.

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<v Speaker 2>So something like a big freaking move like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>vote for somebody has to throw away.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you're now and everybody's radar. Yep, that's a target. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it's revealed that Colton was killed, which at

0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.320
<v Speaker 1>first I was like, bad move, Yeah, but what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized is it was a bad move for Candace, a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant move for Rob because he let her have her

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<v Speaker 1>her way, Like you said, yeah, I mean at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like it seems pretty it seemed pretty obvious to me,

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<v Speaker 1>which it did turn out to be the case that

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<v Speaker 1>she's gone, like that's it man, because he had already

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<v Speaker 1>told multiple people. He didn't just tell Rob, he had

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out her, and they were right about Lisa, which

0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Colton had been gunning for. So the second that Colton's killed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just this looks bad for the traders man and

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<v Speaker 1>you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you are one hundred percent right. The smartest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that Rob did was not say Colton said your name, right.

0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.520
<v Speaker 1>He the smartest thing that he did, And he says

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the episode, he's like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>some information I'm going to keep to myself, which is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing because I think I would have been like, oh,

0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Colton said your name, don't pick him. But he just

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<v Speaker 1>gave up. At this point, He's like, no, Candice is gone.

0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to let her just make this decision her

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<v Speaker 1>so she knows it's just on her.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, in one move

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<v Speaker 2>he got rid of a very powerful, faithful and the

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<v Speaker 2>last trader but him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in one one incredible, brilliant, brilliant. So then Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Commings walks in looking precisely like my grandmother's couch from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one. It's the nineteen ninety one couch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the exact print. It almost looked like the

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<v Speaker 1>Boy meets World couch. Yes, it's yes, my god, it

0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>looks like the Boy meets w relld couch. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to pull up the Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is Boy meets World Living Room set.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta see this. I gotta it's the couch. Check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. No, because it does. I'm looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have flowers? Flower? It does? It does? It's flower

0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the same colors. Yes, he wore the Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 2>Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Alan Cummings is wearing the Boy Meets

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<v Speaker 1>World couch. I like knew it looked so familiar. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, that was my grandmother's couch, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was our set. It's the Boy meets World couch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm amazed it wasn't covered with plastic and didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>one of rusty scripts in the lapel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Oh my god, I can't wait. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this, go look up the Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World couch and all you need is a little

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<v Speaker 1>for ray and you are Alan coming. That is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. He's got two different Morgans in different pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. All right, the mission for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>if you choose to understand it, if you choose. I actually,

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<v Speaker 1>once they started playing this, I really loved this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, great game. This could be a great

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<v Speaker 1>like home game to play, right Like It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like a version of charades where you like split up

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<v Speaker 1>into groups. I thought this was really clever. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be its own game show.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, you know, the way you do it too, is

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<v Speaker 2>that you can just do it with polaroids, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to you have to mimic the polaroid that's in

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<v Speaker 2>the other room, and then you have to come out

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<v Speaker 2>and have a polaroid put next to the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, ah, we did it. We got it. Exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. It has this cool telephone element to it,

0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like there's a game that we love to

0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.720
<v Speaker 1>play called Telestrations, which is basically pictionary with telephone. So

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<v Speaker 1>you sit, you know, you all have a drawing pad

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<v Speaker 1>and you like, one person will be like Santa Claus, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will write Santa Claus. Then they pass that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the next person gets that has to flip the page,

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<v Speaker 1>draw Santa Claus and then pass that. The next person

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<v Speaker 1>just gets that drawing, flips the page and guesses what

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<v Speaker 1>they think that drawing is. Oh, it's by the end

0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of the game, you know, you see like somebody drawing

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus and it becomes like Super Mario Brothers whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like by the end and the fun of the

0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.960
<v Speaker 1>game is not getting it right. It's actually really boring. Whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>the fun of the game is when you see how

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<v Speaker 1>ridicl it got when somebody couldn't draw. Dude, it's such

0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a fun game, especially with kids. You play it with

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.680
<v Speaker 1>kids because they just either you can't draw very well

0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>or just look at a drawing, and they're honest about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like fat man with a mustache and you're like, Okay,

0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.920
<v Speaker 1>guess guess what I'm doing. It's fun. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>play that. Yeah, sounds all right. So this mission is

0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this cool art game thing where they have to recreate

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of art based on a description and then the

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.280
<v Speaker 1>other team. But now, okay, so there were three people

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to go to the gallery and be like the guessers,

0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and those are also three people who could potentially get

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<v Speaker 1>a shield. Correct. I didn't understand how they got selected.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing that Eric said that was really interesting was, look,

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<v Speaker 2>every nobody knows how to do this, so why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we nominate somebody else?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so it's just the first three people who spoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, they started saying each other's names, like all right,

0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 2>we'll do this, we'll do that, and then Rob, very

0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.880
<v Speaker 2>smartly again was like I got a feeling I might

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<v Speaker 2>be killed, and so, uh, Johnny was like, you take

0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.119
<v Speaker 2>my spot, then don't worry about it because people had

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 2>nominated Johnny. So then next thing, you know, the one

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.160
<v Speaker 2>trader who know you know, is there with the two faiths.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just ah, God, he's playing so well, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't believe that the other people who know

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<v Speaker 2>that he has the dagger situation wouldn't be like Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>You're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go, you know, because you don't need the shield.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the double votes.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them even said anything, right, but you could

0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 2>still be kicked out, I guess if and you know

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the but.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking at who has the potential to get an advantage, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you know that Rob already has one advantage

0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and you're part of that six person alliance, wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>be like Robert, Rob, Rob, let me go like Natalie

0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Yeah, yeah, Natalie's playing horribly by

0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the way most people are.

0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 2>At least episode was like I'm bad, I just games

0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:03.720
<v Speaker 2>clearly well.

0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.239
<v Speaker 1>They all have had that kind of moment. I mean,

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Kristen has that bullbent too. She's like, obviously my instincts

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>are well off. I'm just gonna do the opposite. That's smart, man, Like,

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>start recognizing your inability to guess.

0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 2>The number of conversations that happened this episode of people

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.919
<v Speaker 2>just going who do you think it is? I have

0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.120
<v Speaker 2>no good idea, Like that must have happened four times

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:23.919
<v Speaker 2>this episode, just like I don't know, I don't know

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:24.879
<v Speaker 2>anymore who it is.

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's and that's why. But they get better at

0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it when they admit that. So I think the better

0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 1>way to come into this game is just be like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna listen, yeah, and be open and not

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.440
<v Speaker 1>charge at anybody, because it seems like whenever they take

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.439
<v Speaker 1>a stance, they're pretty much wrong. And if there's only

0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.560
<v Speaker 1>one trader now, if it's just him left, the bull's.

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Eye is so small, it's like, oh god, it's great,

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 4>all right, all right, this reenacted painting thing with this

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.520
<v Speaker 4>photo which is actually really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They said his face looked more like

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a horse than like it was Johnny's face.

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 2>He's dressed like a cow, and they have utters and

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.879
<v Speaker 2>she's they're like holding onto the thing and like car

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a car, Like wait.

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 1>What pretty funny though how much the one team was

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>pretty like got it every time and they're killing it.

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>No clue, yeah, really bad kind of rightfully, So, like

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.919
<v Speaker 1>they have the traders quarreling and they they like do

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a fight scene and like, but it's traders. You know

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 1>what traders look like? You could be like in hoods

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>or like looking like you know, I don't know that

0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of not great choices.

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is right up your alley though, this game,

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it's right in your wheelhouse.

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Loved it, loved it. Yeah, that's why I was like,

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I just want to play this game. Kristen finds the shield,

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.120
<v Speaker 1>which is good, Like, so does that shield last forever?

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Or is that only for this round tabe? I think

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it's one round table. I think that's it. She just

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>like I can't sleep. But then does that mean that

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 1>she couldn't be enlisted? Like could she get the ultimatum? Yeah?

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think so, which she's who I would have gone

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.560
<v Speaker 1>for franklish. But if she can't be killed, then you

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>can't give her the ultimatum. Well no, I don't think.

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that you can't be killed. I

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's oh no, it is you can't be or

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is it you can't be killed and you can't be

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>banished or is it just killed? I think it's just killed.

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I thought the shield was just okay.

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>You won't be murdered that night, So then maybe she

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get it. Yeah, or maybe maybe no, No, you're right, no,

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 2>because I was gonna say, maybe it goes away after

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the roundtable, but no, the murder hadn't happened yet, So

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe you're right. Maybe she she couldn't be ultimatum.

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because everyone then would have known. Yeah. Okay, interesting,

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>what do they call it? Seduced? That's what they keep saying, seduced.

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>After the mission back at the castle, Eric and Johnny

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>are talking Candace and Steven gets thrown out there does

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the housewives thing.

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 2>It's throwing me a little bit more because apparently there's

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>all these rules to being a housewife. That what you

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't Well, like they said, how it started with jam

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Jam this week, who commented on our post by the way,

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:04.199
<v Speaker 2>which is pretty awesome.

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Did you not see that?

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 2>No, he just said he commented on our post this week,

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 2>just saying like it's been wild or something like that.

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.479
<v Speaker 2>So he commented on our Instagram. But Jam Jam said, like,

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 2>housewives don't ever kiss anyone on the cheek, housewives don't

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. So there's we need an next. We

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 2>need a Housewives expert, is what I'm saying, because I've

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 2>never seen one. I know my wife watches it, but

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 2>she's not gonna do the show. So we need to

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>We need to talk to somebody because I don't know.

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I don't get it.

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when you say rules, you mean just

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like cultural practices.

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, like like housewives don't kiss anybody for

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 2>some reason.

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Housewives only drink two bottles of rose

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a day. Right, we're married, so how are they housewives? Like,

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't get the rules.

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.159
<v Speaker 2>We need to talk to somebody, so I don't know,

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 2>put it out into the ether because I don't get it.

0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 2>But she's still a housewife? Who Derinda or no? Well,

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Derinda and Candace Candace were both still housewives.

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Are they the only ones left? Yeah? I mean Candas

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is no longer there, but yes.

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 2>There was also something mentioned earlier in this episode that

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I think we need to touch on a little bit,

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>which is somebody said there's got to be a man

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in there.

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Yea, oh, this is right right here. I think it

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>was just where Eric are talking about Candace, and that's

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>why he's like, I feel a male energy and he

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>turns out Stephen because unless they picked all women, they've

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>got to vote a guy at some point, right, I

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>mean you think unless unless they literally think in the house, Wow,

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if all the traders are women, right,

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it seem like there'd have to be a guy, right,

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>because at this point they know that they voted out

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.959
<v Speaker 1>Lisa and Donna, so it's only been two women, So

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>it does make sense. I don't know why he says,

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like a male energy, but I do think that it

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 1>just the odds are it's probably a guy because at

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>this point they're like, oh, it's probably three, right, and

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>so we've already voted out two women.

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Probably a guy, you think, Yeah.

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Dirinda is gunning for Candace and Stephen in a

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation with Maura and Tara. Then Dirinda points out this

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting fact that Lisa shared all of her gold with

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Steven at the last mission, which isn't a good point,

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Like that's actually evidence, And I'm like, Yeah, that's a

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 1>good call and something that like, I didn't notice that.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody noticed, but it does make

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>sense because it's like you're looking at what the trader

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>did from the last time. Stephen has been flying under

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the radar, so right, And then Stephen and Candace have

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this moment where Steven tells her that Colton had her name.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Rob walks in and asks to talk alone with Candace,

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>which is a ballsy move. Yeah, and interestingly, I don't

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>think Steven picked up enough on that moment. Now, granted,

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>he had just kind of done the same thing by

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>saying he and Candace wanted to have a private moment,

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but when Rob walks in, it'says, leave us alone to talk.

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, and he just walked away.

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 2>He was like cool, yeah, sure, yeah, because nobody suspects Rob.

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy easy to me nobody suspects him.

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>He could literally walk in and be like, hey, dude,

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 2>can I talk to this person by myself?

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>They're like, you got it, Rob, and that's it. It's great,

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>all right, homie. You got so sweet.

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>God, it's so nice to know you're a faithful Go

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 2>get you some samming.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So then Rob and Candice have their confrontation, and he

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>lies very well to her. It's because she says, when

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>did Colton say my name? And he goes this morning,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>or no, when did you find out he said this morning?

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>This morning? Because he just lies right to her face.

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>But and what's great is that he let her choose

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to kill Colton. So, I mean, this is where it

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>just is revealed. And then she calls him a snake

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, it's a game, yeah, and he's like

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so right. He says, the game is literally called Traders,

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>called Traders, and then yeah, but then he kind of

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>criticizes her sportsmanship, right, She's like, that's not very sportsman like,

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>which is another way of kind of calling her a snake.

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, both of you guys, just like,

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not you know, just play the game. Just recognize

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>you're lying to each other's face for the sake of

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a fun game. It's not that big of a deal.

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things I'm learning the more

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and more I watch this is to be truly successful

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>at this game, you have to rig it so other

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>people are doing all of the heavy lifting. Yes, you

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>plant the seeds, you plant the seed, you walk away,

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 2>and you walk away, and you keep your mouth shut,

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and then occasionally you throw in something to back up

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>whoever is going against the person you want out.

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's what's so great.

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 2>I'd also like to point out, does it not seem

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's been five years since Michael Rappaport was.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>On this show?

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, decades.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>It was the early nineties when Michael Rappaport was.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 3>On this show.

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's crazy how much the culture of the Castle changes,

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, yeah, that's what I'm

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>interested in. How it's going to be less housewifey now,

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because if we're really down to just Derinda,

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like we, I mean, everybody we have left. They're

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>more like gamers. They're more understated, which could make for

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>more of a cutthroat, evidence based game, maybe less emotional,

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>which I'm here for. It's great, it's great. Yeah, I mean,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.239
<v Speaker 1>but I think Steven is really Steven and Johnny are

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>really setting themselves up to be targeted. Oh hell yeah.

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I also think in a weird way, so is Mark.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But Mark is just completely flying under the radar life

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that's why.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>And they're all talking about we need to start looking

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>at places we would never look. So people like Mark

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and people like Kristen, right, who are just quiet and steadfast,

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>are I think the next people that are going to

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>be targeted those three with Steven as well. It's like, yeah, okay,

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but here's my question that I started realizing. It's like,

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>at a certain point, you've voted out all the traders potentially,

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and then what happens, Like does nobody get murdered?

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Like what if? Well, they just what that's what they do.

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>They hit So if memory serves from the last one,

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>they you get to a certain point and you all

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>agree to stop playing.

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And that can happen with like six people or eight people?

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Does that only happen when they get down this.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be eight. I think there's been

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>different numbers of people each year. I think sometimes there

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>was three. I think once there was three. I think

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>once there was four. So my guess is they'll get

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>to four or five and they'll kind of look around

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and be like, I think we got them all. If

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>we got them all, then we go to the last

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>big ceremony, you drink the blood of there.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a trader and you're the only one left,

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a great thing for you to insist on. Of

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>course we got them all, but but wouldn't you know

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you got them all because there there would be no

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>more murders.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing is I think they I think

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>at that point, that's when you get to a small

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>number of people, I think they have to they stop

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>it in a certa.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So okay, I see, this is my hard time with

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>this whole game, because when you get to the point,

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like if you know that they're not going to stop

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the game, like let's say you vote out three traders

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>in a row, which like they could do next week

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>right like next week they could vote out you know

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're just going to keep enlisting. So like the

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>idea of thinking about this static group of traders and

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>faithful it's kind of ridiculous because it's always going to

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>be there's going to be traders all the way up

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>until there's four of you left potentially. Or is it

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>really possible that you could vote out three traders and

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>be done and then like ten of you are left

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>if you were really playing well I get, I mean,

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>My guess is you they break it up in such

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a way to where you're always going to be recruiting

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think you're allowed to have one trader,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 2>so it's like you got to go get your next one.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go it.

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Why there's only over ever two Sith rider. There could

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>be plenty of Jedi, but only two Sith, a master

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and an apprentice.

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, If all traders are banished on the Traders, the

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>remaining faithful contestants win the entire accumulative prize pod and

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>share equally. The game essentially concludes early as no traders

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>remained to murder player. Right, So wouldn't you know that

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten rid of all the traders because you wake

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning and nobody got murdered.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>So wait, what you're saying is if they pick right

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>in a row, three in a row or four in

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>a row, games over, game's over. Like if they murdered

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Rob next week, I mean, I guess now he's enlisted Eric,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>so we know that. But like if he didn't enlist

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and they just murdered him or banished him like tonight,

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>yeah think she said, I guess you'd have to find

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>out because it's never happened.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying the producers are gonna make sure

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that never happens. They're always going to keep him listening

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and they keep murdering. But actually, if you're a faithful

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's this game is just manipulation.

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I thought of the most brilliant thing in

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the world to do, and it's such a James Bond

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing and would be fully illegal and I

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>love it. So you when you first get to the

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to the tower the day that they pick the traders, Okay,

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you come up with the lemon water concoction on your

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 2>hand that nobody can see, the one that's that that

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>can only be seen in certain lights, and you shake

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Alan Cummings hand.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So when he touches.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody on the shoulder, you then put on your glasses

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 2>to see the marks on each person's shoulder that he hit,

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and you'd know who the traders were.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's devious, right, yeah?

0:30:53.680 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>What is this lemon thing that you're talking? There's like

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>did you ever watch what was the one he did.

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>In uh National Treasure where it's like this kind of

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>soluble it's like liquid where there's some lemon juice and

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>some stuff in that that you can't see it on anything,

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>but under.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>A black light, it pops up.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So you do you shake his hand and then

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the hand he touches everybody with that, he literally mark

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>them wow with this invisible ink. And then you pop

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>on your glasses, your specialty glasses, and wow.

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's that's going to the next level. And

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the producers would would would have a problem

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>with that. Tell them our back. We're into the round table.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Candace and Rob said they're going after another. They're just

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>doing which is just dumb, like on her part, dumb

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>on her part. Yes, and Rob says he's just gonna

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>stay calm. Let Candace scream and yell and be emotion

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>because the more you protest, the more guilty you look,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>which is exactly right. And what happened. Then Johnny jumps

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>in starts off by saying Colton had mentioned Steven, which

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, well, Colton's mentioned so many people he mentioned.

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Steven's really screwed now, like, oh, you know,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>he's People are just not trusting Steven or Johnny like

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>those two for whatever reason. I just feel like they're

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>they're gone down. I think Johnny might be next. I

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>think Johnny next, I think so too. Dernda brings up

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that Lisa gave her goal to Stephen, which is a

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>great argument legit, and he his defense is I wouldn't

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>have given like like I asked for it, Like I

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>just went up to her and asked what she did

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>what she did and was like, you know, He's like,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an alliance with her. It wasn't like

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>she just offered it to me like I, you know,

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>which was a good defense, and it is true.

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>It's also I was thinking about this as he was

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>making his his his appeal, essentially that he was not

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>a trader. The thing that I was thinking about was

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 2>how easy it is to not have to lie. It's

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>like you don't have to keep anything straight in your head,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do anything. Yes, you have to

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>fight for your life, but at the same time, it's

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>not like what did I say two tables ago. It's

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>just like I just walked bucked up and I asked

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>her for her gold.

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what happened. You're not making anything up. That

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the best policy as a faithful is

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to just just play it completely straight, never never lie

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>about anything, and right.

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's because you don't have anything to keep

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>straight in your head. You don't have to do anything.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Just this is what happened. Yeah, I can see how

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that'd be weird. But I walked up and asked her,

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and so she gave me.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Your gold, right right, all right? Well, then Eric brings

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up Candace, which is obviously accurate and great, and then

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Candace just goes for Rob, points out his nervousness with

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>his like dropping his fork at breakfast, which you know

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't It is an okay attempt at at an argument,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's just not He's pretty unflappable, so like and had.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>A great excuse, which is what exactly because I always

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>think about what would I say? What would I say

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>if that same thing happened, And before he even said it,

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, no, I was just upset. I just

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>lost like my best friend in the game, right exactly

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>what he said?

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>All right? Yeah, And I think it's just a really

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>bad look for Candas to go after Rob so much,

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>especially the night after you've made it a throwaway, I know.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>And now all of a sudden inconsistency in her argument. Yes,

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>she should have pulled back from Rob. I mean she

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>should have just decided to stay a trader, joining Rob

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>like the idea. Like she should have the second Lisa

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was voted out and they had the beginning of this

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>episode their turret meeting. She should have been like, cool man,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you won. Now I'm I'm in order to stay in

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>this game, I'm gonna listen to you and be a

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>trader partner with you. Like why she gets so emotional

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and makes it about like Rob being a bad trader, Like, no,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he did the smartest thing, and if she were smart,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>she would join him at the beginning of this episode

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and say what do you think we should do? And

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>he probably would have said, let's enlist somebody, let's you know,

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>expand this and then keep murdering. Yeah, And she's so

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just so dumb to go against him because she

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he holds all the cards, like.

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>She just let all her mind. She he even holds

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>cards she doesn't know about. She doesn't he has the

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>dagger or any of that. She doesn't he didn't tell

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>He didn't tell all the traders about that.

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>No, remember he does.

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Nobody has been told that he has the dagger, the

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>five people that he was with, but it was no

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>other traders know that he has to dag so yeah,

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would have said to her she had

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 2>like six votes the night before, she was dead weight.

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you they were going to vote her out anyway.

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>The smartest thing for us to do is back that

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 2>vote so we don't look like traders. Now you look

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>like a trader. I mean you just you put yourself

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>on the radar. This is just bad playing yeah.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then pointing to him, it's just it's so bad.

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it. So Moira and Eric vote for Candace.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's when I was like, oh, it's it's happening,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>because there was a moment after the discussion I was like,

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>did they rally enough votes for Candace? Like it didn't

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>seem like it necessarily. But then when Johnny voted Candace,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, Candas votes for Rob and Johnny says Candace,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, it's over, she's gone. That's

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Now, it's just let the dominoes fall.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, Kristen votes for Candace to rin it

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>does too. Natalie votes for Tara, which is like, there's

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>still like this personal vendetta because she had thrown her

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 1>out the night before or whatever. But this is where

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Natalie, what are you doing? Like, she's just

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>not playing very well. Man, No, and neither's Terror, but

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>at least Tara knows she's not playing. Yeah. Rob obviously

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>votes for Candace and Mark Tara, who like cries while

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>she's doing it, vote votes for Candace, and then Steven two.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Was this the most votes for one person? It seems

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like it. Yeah, I think so pretty pretty Yeah, I

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>mean it's only Natalie and Candace didn't vote for her. Yeah,

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>so and they were right, yep, say, second round table

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in a row. Like they're actually playing well, they should

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>actually like and they're playing well because of Rob. They're

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>playing well because of the trader. That's he's just he's

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 1>manipulating everything. He's playing them.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Like a fiddle. It's unbelievable to watch this. It is

0:36:58.920 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a virtuo.

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>So for Hormans, it really is well. And then in

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the turred afterwards, Rob discussing who he's going to invite

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a trader. I think he's got to do it,

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>he says, is Johnny, which is he's like, is a

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>pure evil planned because he's like he would just get

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>voted out because he's already suspensed, so which I was like, dude, Rob,

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that's brilliant. Like he could pick Johnny knowing that Johnny

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>was would get banished the next night basically, and then

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have to murder I mean, like that's deVie is.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>But then he doesn't end up doing that. He ends

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>up picking Eric and his I watched three times.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Eric's just shows how good Rob is at this game

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>because he pulls off his hood and it is the

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 2>best reaction watching Eric see who the trader is, Like,

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>you've got to be kidding me, it's you.

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, It's just it's delicious. I also just love

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>when Eric gets invited to be you know, and he's

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>just like, I know who it is. It's Johnny. You

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>know it's not. But then also I just love it.

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, this is what I get for being nice? Yeah,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that would be men would be

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought the same thing. That's writer's response, like I

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do this. I don't want to be murdered.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be a trader, Like I don't

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>have to lie to people's faces now I would Yeah,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that would be my worst nightmare. Is I would. I

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>would start the game as a faithful just no okay,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 1>no pressure, just like you said, just be honest, don't

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>have to lie, never lie, and then get enlisted and

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 1>have to be a trader. Yeah, I'd be so bad,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about like dropping forks. I would just be like

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 1>running into walls, and I wonderumbling over my words. Anybody

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>would say murder me, like, I don't want to do it.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I can't be a trader. I

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do it. It's not probably for me. I

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>probably will be dead. I probably would.

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>But then I want to know what happens. Do they

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>have to you have to go pick somebody else? I

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>guess because an ultimatum you could choose to not be

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, for a trader, if there's a thing,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>you can't just have one, then that he has to

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>go to somebody else.

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>It probably has to keep going on the line. But

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you would just get murdered. So Eric would just get

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>murdered and get off the and and no one would

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>know that he got murdered with the option of being

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>enlisted exactly, I mean, I I mean that's the real

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 1>definition of a faithful. You go to the grave faithful. Yeah,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's I don't think you care do that. No,

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 1>you got to play the game. I mean I don't. Yeah,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>although if I was in the situation, I probably please

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>get me out of here. I can't. I can't go

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>buy my own smoke salmon. I don't need to deal

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 1>with the hugs and the kisses and my own castle

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>down the street.

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna I've got I'm gonna do it on

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 2>my own, Thank you very much. Well.

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised that they ended with revealing that

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it was Eric that he had chosen to give the

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>ultimatum to, because usually we end on more of a cliffhanger.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>What they chose so interesting. Interesting.

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they did. I'm glad, I know, but it's

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>still I agreed with you one hundred percent. I'm like,

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna I figured the last shot was going to

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 2>be the envelope on the chair. It was the perfect

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>ending shot exactly that was gonna be, or maybe a

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>hand coming that that that would have been it, and

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>then that was it. Of course, if it was a

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 2>fur lined, gloved hand, you'd be like, oh yeah.

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think think Rub's thinking was Johnny would be

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the person you enlist who suspicious, right, Eric is somebody

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>who because he's a gamer, because you know, like there,

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>he would be kind of in between. And the other

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>option he throws out is Mark, who nobody has suspected

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of anything. So it's interesting. I feel like he chose

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the sort of middle ground, do you know what I mean?

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Because Eric could go either way, Like Eric could be

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>just like the nice guy that nobody ever thinks, or

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>they're going to go for him because he's been too

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 1>like under the radar, whereas Mark truly has been getting

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a pass by everybody like.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Rob Yeah, like I'm always I'm so so We've we've

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>heard little snippets through the grapevine of how much is

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<v Speaker 2>on the cutting room floor, and you wonder, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you we both know this industry well enough. Could they

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<v Speaker 2>have taken exactly the footage that they have from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning and recut the entire show where Mark just looks

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<v Speaker 2>guilty the entire time m hm, or he's playing brilliantly

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, because it doesn't seem like they're

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's mostly just been cut around. It's like, like

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<v Speaker 1>you even get to see him like socializing or being in.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it just it also just shows you what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. I read an interview the other day. I

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<v Speaker 2>forget it might have been with Jam Jam. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>who it was with or Kristen, but they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how that banquet was six hours long. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>they shot that for six hours. So I mean crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we're not. Yeah, no thanks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, I am not only a expert on dance,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm also expert on the famous traders throughout history

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<v Speaker 2>m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>In a segment that I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>With History Trade Hate Wow, almost like a rock metal

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<v Speaker 2>kind of but like Broadway vibe, does that work?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still working on it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's installment is Pedro Perterno from eighteen fifty seven to

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eleven. Pedro Praturno is considered the most infamous trader

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of the Philippines. He's a well regarded

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<v Speaker 2>writer and lawyer who never missed an opportunity to gain

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity unity. He negotiated an agreement with the Spanish Empire

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen ninety seven in which Filipino revolutionaries would end

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<v Speaker 2>their fight with the Spanish and cooperate with them. He

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<v Speaker 2>urged the Philippines to fight against the United States during

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<v Speaker 2>the Spanish American War and to continue to resist American

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<v Speaker 2>occupation after Spain lost the war. After he was captured

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<v Speaker 2>by the Americans, though, he swore allegiance to the US

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<v Speaker 2>and became president of the Consultive Assembly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa so consultive consultant?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Spain then goes to the US. So wait, did

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<v Speaker 1>he get away with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he live a good life?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 1>I Am going to tell you later? How you have

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<v Speaker 1>all this information? I do? It's a it's in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like to leave on a cliffhanger, just like

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<v Speaker 1>you do. Writer. Okay, well, that will do it. For

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<v Speaker 1>this episode of Podmead's World, alliances were tested, trust missed, placed,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again we're left with somewhat of a cliffhanger.

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<v Speaker 1>Join us next time as we continue our journey through

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<v Speaker 1>season four of Traders, a show in which, as Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>said in his Scottish play, is foul and foul is fair.

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<v Speaker 2>H