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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod meets Tworld, a podcast from two guys

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Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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Speaker 1: now we turned to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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Speaker 1: while Will is convinced that he could win it. We

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Speaker 1: are Wilfred Ellen Ryder Strong. Two best friends, one's a

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Speaker 1: TV expert, one's a TV skeptic, both dance scholars join

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Speaker 1: us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances,

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Speaker 1: and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod meets

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Speaker 1: Tworld Trading Places. How you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I don't understand why I wear the

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Speaker 2: robe anymore. I'm be honest. I went to go grad

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Speaker 2: it like I forgot my robe, and I'm like, no

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Speaker 2: one is ever going to see this. What am I doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm just hot. It's like your superhero underwear, though, doesn't

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Speaker 1: it make you feel better?

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Speaker 2: The superhero underwear is an actual medical thing, right that

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Speaker 2: truly helps people and makes them Yeah, that's science. This

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Speaker 2: is just this is just for all, This is just fun.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, this is shenanigans. I'm taking it

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Speaker 2: off now, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you gotta we got to up

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Speaker 1: our costume game if we're going to do it, so

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Speaker 1: like you got to bust it out halfway through our

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Speaker 1: recording or masks traders masks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to wear a gold mask just because

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be cool. I mean, I think my

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Speaker 2: mask game is not strong. I don't know about you yours.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean do you have Do you have

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Speaker 2: seven like meaning like at your home if you had

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Speaker 2: to pick from them?

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Speaker 1: Do you have several masks because of Indie like I

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Speaker 1: don't otherwise I wouldn't own masks. No, but you've got

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Speaker 1: a strong mask game. Oh my god. We have so

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Speaker 1: many masks. And Andy likes the really over the top

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Speaker 1: ones too, Like he has some really ugly ones and

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Speaker 1: creepy ones. And then we've done like a Squid Games

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Speaker 1: themed birthday party for him. So I got like one

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Speaker 1: of those like golden guy masks to wear.

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Speaker 2: It's good games could happen, It's good games could happen,

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Speaker 2: could be real.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I kind of just want a vacation

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Speaker 1: in the Trader's Castle. That's what I've realized.

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Speaker 2: Well, then go to Ashford Castle and go to Ashford

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Speaker 2: Castle in County Mayo and that's the name.

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Speaker 1: Of this actual castle. No, no, no, that's not this castle.

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Speaker 2: That's just an awesome vacations like one of the best

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Speaker 2: hotels in the world.

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Speaker 1: So when I went there for a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of days, that's where we were walking the Irish countryside falconing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we literally had falcons on our arms and walking the

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Speaker 2: Irish countryside. It was the Guinness family's summer like get away.

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Speaker 2: Oh and it's the most insane food, the most insane hotel,

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Speaker 2: the greatest spa.

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Speaker 1: It's this time's one thousand. Yeah, watching the show. That's

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Speaker 1: that's my overwhelming filming nowadays, Salmon and Cook that I

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Speaker 1: just want to be in this castle. I just want

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Speaker 1: to walk around the grounds. It's so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, I know, and it's but there's also

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Speaker 2: I want the pump and the circumstance.

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Speaker 1: Of the of the game. I don't think I can

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I'm also just like as the group gets smaller and

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Speaker 1: who's who a lot easier now I'm very here on

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Speaker 1: who everybody is. So when they're all like at breakfast

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Speaker 1: now like about I'm like, stop, we get it, Like

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Speaker 1: I just want everybody and that would drive me crazy,

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Speaker 1: like all the light. You don't want to the top

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Speaker 1: to be at breakfast every morning. I would just be

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Speaker 1: like the second, like second Johnny shows up with a

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Speaker 1: veil on in front of his head, I'd be like, dude,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? What are you doing here?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 1: We're here just for breakfast And then and then you

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Speaker 1: know we're going to be running around in some mud,

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Speaker 1: So why did you dress? I would just can't do this.

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Speaker 1: You can't. How do you eat your yogurt through a veil?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 1: How's the smoke? Sam would make it? I know, like

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Speaker 1: I feel like the pomp and circumstance gets more ridiculous

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Speaker 1: the amount of like they're bags. Think about how big

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Speaker 2: I was like, what kind of bags you talk about it?

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Speaker 2: I thought you meant under their eyes from the lack

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Speaker 1: Candae is wearing like a cow fur jacket, like you

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Speaker 1: know how much that's like an entire bag unto itself,

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Speaker 1: And she has one of those every episode. I think

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Speaker 1: the whole show is shot over what a week? Ten days?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that I mean for ten days, she's got

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Speaker 2: to have five suitcases.

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Speaker 1: Oh my six suitcases. They have like a whole suv

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Speaker 1: to get to the castle. I've perfected the art of

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Speaker 1: like and you you you you have too, and we

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Speaker 1: do conventions and stuff. We get our bags to that

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Speaker 1: and about anything more. And that's that's back with like

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Speaker 1: my computer and my books, and then the one carry

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Speaker 1: on anything more than that for any vacation. Oh it's

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Speaker 1: too much, I agree. Yeah, all right, Robin Candice a

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Speaker 1: great episode. Yeah, you know, here's what. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: into the showiness of it all, like you know, when

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Speaker 1: the people now and seeing Robin Cantas go at it.

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Speaker 1: It has been super like they're just great, isn't it,

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Speaker 1: well they're playing well better, you know, at least I

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Speaker 1: This was a good episode. I feel like I know

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Speaker 1: who everybody is like when it comes.

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Speaker 2: To people so good at this game, Yeah, he's really good.

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Speaker 2: Is so good at this game. Not only is he

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Speaker 2: puppet mastering everything, but people are literally walking away going like,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe anybody would put his name down. He's

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Speaker 2: like that guy. You think it's that guy?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: God, so good, you know what I mean. It's magical.

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Speaker 1: So opening up, they're meeting up in the turret and

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Speaker 1: like immediately Canda says like, Rob's the dangerous type that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally, Actually what she said was even better.

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Speaker 2: She said, we'll look you in the eye, yes, and

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Speaker 2: stab you in the back right, And I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: But he said to her, I'm voting for you for

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Speaker 1: this reason. I mean, he's he's clearly stated all of

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Speaker 1: The only thing he keeps to himself is that Colton

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Speaker 2: Yes, he kept It's also he's playing with no emotion, right,

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Speaker 1: He was bummed that Colton was gone.

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Speaker 2: But she's like taking things personally and making bad decisions

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Speaker 2: because of that. And he's like, I'm playing a game.

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Speaker 2: It's a game of chess, and this is the next

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's to me. It's like, yes, this is

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Speaker 1: If you're a trader, you know, like being a faithful

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Speaker 1: I think you can play emotionally because it is just

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Speaker 1: I feel like something I should say to my wife

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Speaker 1: every once in a while. I got awkwardness in my turret. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: my turret. All right. Rob immediately was like, we should enlist,

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Speaker 1: which I think is smart too. Like, why not because

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Speaker 2: But yeah, again I think and giving giving her the

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Speaker 2: enough for up.

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Speaker 1: To hang yourself.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go ahead, go ahead, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to do, right man? It's like, oh, first you're

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Speaker 2: going to kill Colton. Dumb idea. He was loud and

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Speaker 2: brashing on everybody's list of as a possible trader, so

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Speaker 1: And it was just yes, she was. What she didn't

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Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, I can't believe like Colton is

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Speaker 1: even put in check. They have thrown out Stephen, Colton

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Speaker 1: better than Colton. Yeah, I agree. And then did you

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Speaker 1: notice that Rob then immediately makes the chess comparison, just

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Speaker 1: like you were saying, like you were so right, He's

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Speaker 1: like he's generally just playing chess. So he moves ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, I don't have her in check yet,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh he's operating on this, Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: And then he's doing things like again, never judge a

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Speaker 2: Twain and doing it. It's like, oh, this guy's a

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Speaker 1: This guy's amazing. I wonder if how how much they

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Speaker 1: and then the secret trader is Donna, right, like, so

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Speaker 1: how much of the producers like foresee this did they

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Speaker 1: like meet with him and and be like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: guy's got a lot more going on then maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: like what are your favorite things?

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Speaker 2: So I like, yeah, you never know, but he is.

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Speaker 1: He's super collated. Great, he's killing it all right Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Derinda comes in saying that she was packing because she

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Speaker 1: didn't think she was like whatever, but mostly she just

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Speaker 1: never thought that it could be Lisa, which is like

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Speaker 1: just goes to show how bad she is.

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Speaker 2: This kid.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yes, when somebody's your friend or a housewife,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're not you couldn't also be

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Speaker 1: a trader. Like they all need to just stop thinking like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well he or she's my friend.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, you've met them six days ago to

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Speaker 1: I know that's what it is. They're like saying I

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Speaker 1: at night, and I almost.

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Speaker 2: An actor thing, you know that we're all like that.

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Speaker 1: so that totally backfires, like exactly what you're saying, you

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things that's like in

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Speaker 2: any little thing, can't drop this fork he did this.

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Speaker 1: You're you're hyper vigilant to everything going on around you.

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Speaker 2: So something like a big freaking move like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Of course you're now and everybody's radar. Yep, that's a target. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's revealed that Colton was killed, which at

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Speaker 2: It's just you are one hundred percent right. The smartest

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Speaker 2: thing that Rob did was not say Colton said your name, right.

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Speaker 1: He the smartest thing that he did, And he says

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, in one move

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in one one incredible, brilliant, brilliant. So then Alan

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Speaker 1: Commings walks in looking precisely like my grandmother's couch from

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. It's the nineteen ninety one couch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like the exact print. It almost looked like the

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Speaker 3: I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I think it is Boy meets World Living Room set.

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Speaker 1: I gotta see this. I gotta it's the couch. Check

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Speaker 1: it out. No, because it does. I'm looking at it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have flowers? Flower? It does? It does? It's flower

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Speaker 1: the same colors. Yes, he wore the Boy Meets World.

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Speaker 2: Go.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Alan Cummings is wearing the Boy Meets

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Speaker 2: I'm amazed it wasn't covered with plastic and didn't have

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Oh my god, I can't wait. All right,

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Speaker 1: I love it. He's got two different Morgans in different pockets.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, the mission for the day,

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know, the way you do it too, is

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Speaker 1: Like, ah, we did it. We got it. Exactly what

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Speaker 1: and you like, one person will be like Santa Claus, right,

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Speaker 1: a fun game, especially with kids. You play it with

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Speaker 1: So they're like fat man with a mustache and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: guess guess what I'm doing. It's fun. I got to

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Speaker 1: play that. Yeah, sounds all right. So this mission is

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Speaker 1: other team. But now, okay, so there were three people

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing that Eric said that was really interesting was, look,

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Speaker 1: Right, And so it's just the first three people who spoke.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they started saying each other's names, like all right,

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Speaker 2: It's just ah, God, he's playing so well, I know,

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Speaker 2: You're okay.

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Speaker 1: Don't go, you know, because you don't need the shield.

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Speaker 1: You've got the double votes.

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Speaker 2: None of them even said anything, right, but you could

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Speaker 1: You're looking at who has the potential to get an advantage, right,

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Speaker 1: and if you know that Rob already has one advantage

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Speaker 1: be like Robert, Rob, Rob, let me go like Natalie

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Speaker 2: At least episode was like I'm bad, I just games

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Speaker 1: They all have had that kind of moment. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kristen has that bullbent too. She's like, obviously my instincts

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Speaker 1: start recognizing your inability to guess.

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Speaker 2: The number of conversations that happened this episode of people

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Speaker 2: just going who do you think it is? I have

434
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 2: no good idea, Like that must have happened four times

435
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 2: this episode, just like I don't know, I don't know

436
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 2: anymore who it is.

437
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 1: So it's and that's why. But they get better at

438
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: it when they admit that. So I think the better

439
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 1: way to come into this game is just be like

440
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna listen, yeah, and be open and not

441
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 1: charge at anybody, because it seems like whenever they take

442
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 1: a stance, they're pretty much wrong. And if there's only

443
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: one trader now, if it's just him left, the bull's.

444
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Speaker 4: Eye is so small, it's like, oh god, it's great,

445
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 4: all right, all right, this reenacted painting thing with this

446
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 4: photo which is actually really fun.

447
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. They said his face looked more like

448
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 1: a horse than like it was Johnny's face.

449
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 2: He's dressed like a cow, and they have utters and

450
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 2: she's they're like holding onto the thing and like car

451
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: that's a car, Like wait.

452
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: What pretty funny though how much the one team was

453
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: pretty like got it every time and they're killing it.

454
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: No clue, yeah, really bad kind of rightfully, So, like

455
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: they have the traders quarreling and they they like do

456
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: a fight scene and like, but it's traders. You know

457
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 1: what traders look like? You could be like in hoods

458
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: or like looking like you know, I don't know that

459
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of not great choices.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is right up your alley though, this game,

461
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 2: it's right in your wheelhouse.

462
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Loved it, loved it. Yeah, that's why I was like,

463
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: I just want to play this game. Kristen finds the shield,

464
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: which is good, Like, so does that shield last forever?

465
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Speaker 1: Or is that only for this round tabe? I think

466
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: it's one round table. I think that's it. She just

467
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 1: like I can't sleep. But then does that mean that

468
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: she couldn't be enlisted? Like could she get the ultimatum? Yeah?

469
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Speaker 1: I think so, which she's who I would have gone

470
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: for franklish. But if she can't be killed, then you

471
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: can't give her the ultimatum. Well no, I don't think.

472
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that you can't be killed. I

473
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: think it's oh no, it is you can't be or

474
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: is it you can't be killed and you can't be

475
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Speaker 1: banished or is it just killed? I think it's just killed.

476
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: I thought the shield was just okay.

477
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: You won't be murdered that night, So then maybe she

478
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: couldn't get it. Yeah, or maybe maybe no, No, you're right, no,

479
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: because I was gonna say, maybe it goes away after

480
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: the roundtable, but no, the murder hadn't happened yet, So

481
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: maybe you're right. Maybe she she couldn't be ultimatum.

482
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone then would have known. Yeah. Okay, interesting,

483
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: what do they call it? Seduced? That's what they keep saying, seduced.

484
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: After the mission back at the castle, Eric and Johnny

485
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: are talking Candace and Steven gets thrown out there does

486
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Speaker 1: the housewives thing.

487
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Speaker 2: It's throwing me a little bit more because apparently there's

488
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: all these rules to being a housewife. That what you

489
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: didn't Well, like they said, how it started with jam

490
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,239
Speaker 2: Jam this week, who commented on our post by the way,

491
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: which is pretty awesome.

492
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Speaker 1: Did you not see that?

493
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: No, he just said he commented on our post this week,

494
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: just saying like it's been wild or something like that.

495
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 2: So he commented on our Instagram. But Jam Jam said, like,

496
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: housewives don't ever kiss anyone on the cheek, housewives don't

497
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So there's we need an next. We

498
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Speaker 2: need a Housewives expert, is what I'm saying, because I've

499
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: never seen one. I know my wife watches it, but

500
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: she's not gonna do the show. So we need to

501
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: We need to talk to somebody because I don't know.

502
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it.

503
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you say rules, you mean just

504
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: like cultural practices.

505
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, like like housewives don't kiss anybody for

506
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: some reason.

507
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Housewives only drink two bottles of rose

508
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: a day. Right, we're married, so how are they housewives? Like,

509
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't I don't get the rules.

510
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: We need to talk to somebody, so I don't know,

511
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: put it out into the ether because I don't get it.

512
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Speaker 2: But she's still a housewife? Who Derinda or no? Well,

513
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: Derinda and Candace Candace were both still housewives.

514
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: Are they the only ones left? Yeah? I mean Candas

515
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: is no longer there, but yes.

516
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Speaker 2: There was also something mentioned earlier in this episode that

517
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Speaker 2: I think we need to touch on a little bit,

518
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: which is somebody said there's got to be a man

519
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: in there.

520
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: Yea, oh, this is right right here. I think it

521
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: was just where Eric are talking about Candace, and that's

522
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Speaker 1: why he's like, I feel a male energy and he

523
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: turns out Stephen because unless they picked all women, they've

524
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: got to vote a guy at some point, right, I

525
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: mean you think unless unless they literally think in the house, Wow,

526
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: can you imagine if all the traders are women, right,

527
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: it seem like there'd have to be a guy, right,

528
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Speaker 1: because at this point they know that they voted out

529
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Speaker 1: Lisa and Donna, so it's only been two women, So

530
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Speaker 1: it does make sense. I don't know why he says,

531
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: like a male energy, but I do think that it

532
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: just the odds are it's probably a guy because at

533
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: this point they're like, oh, it's probably three, right, and

534
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: so we've already voted out two women.

535
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Speaker 2: Probably a guy, you think, Yeah.

536
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Dirinda is gunning for Candace and Stephen in a

537
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: conversation with Maura and Tara. Then Dirinda points out this

538
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: interesting fact that Lisa shared all of her gold with

539
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: Steven at the last mission, which isn't a good point,

540
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: Like that's actually evidence, And I'm like, Yeah, that's a

541
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: good call and something that like, I didn't notice that.

542
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody noticed, but it does make

543
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: sense because it's like you're looking at what the trader

544
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: did from the last time. Stephen has been flying under

545
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: the radar, so right, And then Stephen and Candace have

546
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: this moment where Steven tells her that Colton had her name.

547
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: Rob walks in and asks to talk alone with Candace,

548
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: which is a ballsy move. Yeah, and interestingly, I don't

549
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: think Steven picked up enough on that moment. Now, granted,

550
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: he had just kind of done the same thing by

551
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: saying he and Candace wanted to have a private moment,

552
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: but when Rob walks in, it'says, leave us alone to talk.

553
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I was like, and he just walked away.

554
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: He was like cool, yeah, sure, yeah, because nobody suspects Rob.

555
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy easy to me nobody suspects him.

556
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: He could literally walk in and be like, hey, dude,

557
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: can I talk to this person by myself?

558
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: They're like, you got it, Rob, and that's it. It's great,

559
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: all right, homie. You got so sweet.

560
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: God, it's so nice to know you're a faithful Go

561
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: get you some samming.

562
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: So then Rob and Candice have their confrontation, and he

563
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: lies very well to her. It's because she says, when

564
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: did Colton say my name? And he goes this morning,

565
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: or no, when did you find out he said this morning?

566
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: This morning? Because he just lies right to her face.

567
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: But and what's great is that he let her choose

568
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: to kill Colton. So, I mean, this is where it

569
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: just is revealed. And then she calls him a snake

570
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's a game, yeah, and he's like

571
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: so right. He says, the game is literally called Traders,

572
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: called Traders, and then yeah, but then he kind of

573
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: criticizes her sportsmanship, right, She's like, that's not very sportsman like,

574
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: which is another way of kind of calling her a snake.

575
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, both of you guys, just like,

576
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: it's not you know, just play the game. Just recognize

577
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: you're lying to each other's face for the sake of

578
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: a fun game. It's not that big of a deal.

579
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Speaker 2: I think one of the things I'm learning the more

580
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: and more I watch this is to be truly successful

581
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: at this game, you have to rig it so other

582
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: people are doing all of the heavy lifting. Yes, you

583
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: plant the seeds, you plant the seed, you walk away,

584
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: and you walk away, and you keep your mouth shut,

585
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: and then occasionally you throw in something to back up

586
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: whoever is going against the person you want out.

587
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: And that's what's so great.

588
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: I'd also like to point out, does it not seem

589
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Speaker 2: like it's been five years since Michael Rappaport was.

590
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: On this show?

591
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: Yes, decades.

592
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: It was the early nineties when Michael Rappaport was.

593
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: On this show.

594
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Speaker 1: Well, it's crazy how much the culture of the Castle changes,

595
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, that's what I'm

596
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: interested in. How it's going to be less housewifey now,

597
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, because if we're really down to just Derinda,

598
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like we, I mean, everybody we have left. They're

599
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: more like gamers. They're more understated, which could make for

600
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: more of a cutthroat, evidence based game, maybe less emotional,

601
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: which I'm here for. It's great, it's great. Yeah, I mean,

602
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: but I think Steven is really Steven and Johnny are

603
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: really setting themselves up to be targeted. Oh hell yeah.

604
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: I also think in a weird way, so is Mark.

605
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: But Mark is just completely flying under the radar life

606
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: that's why.

607
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: And they're all talking about we need to start looking

608
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: at places we would never look. So people like Mark

609
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: and people like Kristen, right, who are just quiet and steadfast,

610
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: are I think the next people that are going to

611
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: be targeted those three with Steven as well. It's like, yeah, okay,

612
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: but here's my question that I started realizing. It's like,

613
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: at a certain point, you've voted out all the traders potentially,

614
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: and then what happens, Like does nobody get murdered?

615
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Like what if? Well, they just what that's what they do.

616
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: They hit So if memory serves from the last one,

617
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: they you get to a certain point and you all

618
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: agree to stop playing.

619
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: And that can happen with like six people or eight people?

620
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: Does that only happen when they get down this.

621
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: It's not going to be eight. I think there's been

622
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: different numbers of people each year. I think sometimes there

623
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: was three. I think once there was three. I think

624
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: once there was four. So my guess is they'll get

625
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: to four or five and they'll kind of look around

626
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: and be like, I think we got them all. If

627
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: we got them all, then we go to the last

628
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: big ceremony, you drink the blood of there.

629
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: But if you're a trader and you're the only one left,

630
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: that's a great thing for you to insist on. Of

631
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: course we got them all, but but wouldn't you know

632
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: you got them all because there there would be no

633
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: more murders.

634
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is I think they I think

635
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: at that point, that's when you get to a small

636
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: number of people, I think they have to they stop

637
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: it in a certa.

638
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: So okay, I see, this is my hard time with

639
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: this whole game, because when you get to the point,

640
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: like if you know that they're not going to stop

641
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: the game, like let's say you vote out three traders

642
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: in a row, which like they could do next week

643
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: right like next week they could vote out you know

644
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: that they're just going to keep enlisting. So like the

645
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: idea of thinking about this static group of traders and

646
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: faithful it's kind of ridiculous because it's always going to

647
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: be there's going to be traders all the way up

648
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: until there's four of you left potentially. Or is it

649
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: really possible that you could vote out three traders and

650
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: be done and then like ten of you are left

651
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: if you were really playing well I get, I mean,

652
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

653
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: My guess is you they break it up in such

654
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: a way to where you're always going to be recruiting

655
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: because I don't think you're allowed to have one trader,

656
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: so it's like you got to go get your next one.

657
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: You gotta go it.

658
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Why there's only over ever two Sith rider. There could

659
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: be plenty of Jedi, but only two Sith, a master

660
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: and an apprentice.

661
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Okay, If all traders are banished on the Traders, the

662
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: remaining faithful contestants win the entire accumulative prize pod and

663
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: share equally. The game essentially concludes early as no traders

664
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: remained to murder player. Right, So wouldn't you know that

665
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: you've gotten rid of all the traders because you wake

666
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: up the next morning and nobody got murdered.

667
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: So wait, what you're saying is if they pick right

668
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: in a row, three in a row or four in

669
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: a row, games over, game's over. Like if they murdered

670
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: Rob next week, I mean, I guess now he's enlisted Eric,

671
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: so we know that. But like if he didn't enlist

672
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: and they just murdered him or banished him like tonight,

673
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: yeah think she said, I guess you'd have to find

674
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: out because it's never happened.

675
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying the producers are gonna make sure

676
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: that never happens. They're always going to keep him listening

677
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: and they keep murdering. But actually, if you're a faithful

678
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's this game is just manipulation.

679
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought of the most brilliant thing in

680
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: the world to do, and it's such a James Bond

681
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: kind of thing and would be fully illegal and I

682
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: love it. So you when you first get to the

683
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: to the tower the day that they pick the traders, Okay,

684
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: you come up with the lemon water concoction on your

685
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: hand that nobody can see, the one that's that that

686
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: can only be seen in certain lights, and you shake

687
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Alan Cummings hand.

688
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: So when he touches.

689
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Everybody on the shoulder, you then put on your glasses

690
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: to see the marks on each person's shoulder that he hit,

691
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: and you'd know who the traders were.

692
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Wow, that's devious, right, yeah?

693
00:30:53,680 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

694
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: What is this lemon thing that you're talking? There's like

695
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: did you ever watch what was the one he did.

696
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: In uh National Treasure where it's like this kind of

697
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: soluble it's like liquid where there's some lemon juice and

698
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: some stuff in that that you can't see it on anything,

699
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: but under.

700
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: A black light, it pops up.

701
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Wow, So you do you shake his hand and then

702
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: the hand he touches everybody with that, he literally mark

703
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: them wow with this invisible ink. And then you pop

704
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: on your glasses, your specialty glasses, and wow.

705
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's going to the next level. And

706
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure the producers would would would have a problem

707
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: with that. Tell them our back. We're into the round table.

708
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: Candace and Rob said they're going after another. They're just

709
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: doing which is just dumb, like on her part, dumb

710
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: on her part. Yes, and Rob says he's just gonna

711
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: stay calm. Let Candace scream and yell and be emotion

712
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: because the more you protest, the more guilty you look,

713
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: which is exactly right. And what happened. Then Johnny jumps

714
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: in starts off by saying Colton had mentioned Steven, which

715
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well, Colton's mentioned so many people he mentioned.

716
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I feel like Steven's really screwed now, like, oh, you know,

717
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: he's People are just not trusting Steven or Johnny like

718
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: those two for whatever reason. I just feel like they're

719
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: they're gone down. I think Johnny might be next. I

720
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: think Johnny next, I think so too. Dernda brings up

721
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: that Lisa gave her goal to Stephen, which is a

722
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: great argument legit, and he his defense is I wouldn't

723
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: have given like like I asked for it, Like I

724
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: just went up to her and asked what she did

725
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: what she did and was like, you know, He's like,

726
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't have an alliance with her. It wasn't like

727
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: she just offered it to me like I, you know,

728
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: which was a good defense, and it is true.

729
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: It's also I was thinking about this as he was

730
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: making his his his appeal, essentially that he was not

731
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: a trader. The thing that I was thinking about was

732
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: how easy it is to not have to lie. It's

733
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: like you don't have to keep anything straight in your head,

734
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: you don't have to do anything. Yes, you have to

735
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: fight for your life, but at the same time, it's

736
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: not like what did I say two tables ago. It's

737
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: just like I just walked bucked up and I asked

738
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: her for her gold.

739
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Like that's what happened. You're not making anything up. That

740
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: seems to be the best policy as a faithful is

741
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: to just just play it completely straight, never never lie

742
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: about anything, and right.

743
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: It's just it's because you don't have anything to keep

744
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: straight in your head. You don't have to do anything.

745
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: Just this is what happened. Yeah, I can see how

746
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: that'd be weird. But I walked up and asked her,

747
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: and so she gave me.

748
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: Your gold, right right, all right? Well, then Eric brings

749
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: up Candace, which is obviously accurate and great, and then

750
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Candace just goes for Rob, points out his nervousness with

751
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: his like dropping his fork at breakfast, which you know

752
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 1: isn't It is an okay attempt at at an argument,

753
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: but he's just not He's pretty unflappable, so like and had.

754
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: A great excuse, which is what exactly because I always

755
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: think about what would I say? What would I say

756
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: if that same thing happened, And before he even said it,

757
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like, no, I was just upset. I just

758
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: lost like my best friend in the game, right exactly

759
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: what he said?

760
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, And I think it's just a really

761
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: bad look for Candas to go after Rob so much,

762
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: especially the night after you've made it a throwaway, I know.

763
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden inconsistency in her argument. Yes,

764
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: she should have pulled back from Rob. I mean she

765
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: should have just decided to stay a trader, joining Rob

766
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: like the idea. Like she should have the second Lisa

767
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: was voted out and they had the beginning of this

768
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: episode their turret meeting. She should have been like, cool man,

769
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: you won. Now I'm I'm in order to stay in

770
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: this game, I'm gonna listen to you and be a

771
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: trader partner with you. Like why she gets so emotional

772
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: and makes it about like Rob being a bad trader, Like, no,

773
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: he did the smartest thing, and if she were smart,

774
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: she would join him at the beginning of this episode

775
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: and say what do you think we should do? And

776
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: he probably would have said, let's enlist somebody, let's you know,

777
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: expand this and then keep murdering. Yeah, And she's so

778
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: it's just so dumb to go against him because she

779
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: he holds all the cards, like.

780
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: She just let all her mind. She he even holds

781
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: cards she doesn't know about. She doesn't he has the

782
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: dagger or any of that. She doesn't he didn't tell

783
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: He didn't tell all the traders about that.

784
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: No, remember he does.

785
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: Nobody has been told that he has the dagger, the

786
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: five people that he was with, but it was no

787
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: other traders know that he has to dag so yeah,

788
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean I would have said to her she had

789
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: like six votes the night before, she was dead weight.

790
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they were going to vote her out anyway.

791
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: The smartest thing for us to do is back that

792
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: vote so we don't look like traders. Now you look

793
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: like a trader. I mean you just you put yourself

794
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: on the radar. This is just bad playing yeah.

795
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then pointing to him, it's just it's so bad.

796
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Don't do it. So Moira and Eric vote for Candace.

797
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh, it's it's happening,

798
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: because there was a moment after the discussion I was like,

799
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: did they rally enough votes for Candace? Like it didn't

800
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: seem like it necessarily. But then when Johnny voted Candace,

801
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: all right, Candas votes for Rob and Johnny says Candace,

802
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it's over, she's gone. That's

803
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: the same thing. Now, it's just let the dominoes fall.

804
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: And sure enough, Kristen votes for Candace to rin it

805
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: does too. Natalie votes for Tara, which is like, there's

806
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: still like this personal vendetta because she had thrown her

807
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: out the night before or whatever. But this is where

808
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, Natalie, what are you doing? Like, she's just

809
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: not playing very well. Man, No, and neither's Terror, but

810
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: at least Tara knows she's not playing. Yeah. Rob obviously

811
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: votes for Candace and Mark Tara, who like cries while

812
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: she's doing it, vote votes for Candace, and then Steven two.

813
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: Was this the most votes for one person? It seems

814
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I think so pretty pretty Yeah, I

815
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: mean it's only Natalie and Candace didn't vote for her. Yeah,

816
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: so and they were right, yep, say, second round table

817
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: in a row. Like they're actually playing well, they should

818
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: actually like and they're playing well because of Rob. They're

819
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: playing well because of the trader. That's he's just he's

820
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: manipulating everything. He's playing them.

821
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: Like a fiddle. It's unbelievable to watch this. It is

822
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: a virtuo.

823
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: So for Hormans, it really is well. And then in

824
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: the turred afterwards, Rob discussing who he's going to invite

825
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: to be a trader. I think he's got to do it,

826
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: he says, is Johnny, which is he's like, is a

827
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: pure evil planned because he's like he would just get

828
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: voted out because he's already suspensed, so which I was like, dude, Rob,

829
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: that's brilliant. Like he could pick Johnny knowing that Johnny

830
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: was would get banished the next night basically, and then

831
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to murder I mean, like that's deVie is.

832
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: But then he doesn't end up doing that. He ends

833
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: up picking Eric and his I watched three times.

834
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Eric's just shows how good Rob is at this game

835
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: because he pulls off his hood and it is the

836
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: best reaction watching Eric see who the trader is, Like,

837
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me, it's you.

838
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Oh god, It's just it's delicious. I also just love

839
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: when Eric gets invited to be you know, and he's

840
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: just like, I know who it is. It's Johnny. You

841
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: know it's not. But then also I just love it.

842
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: He's like, this is what I get for being nice? Yeah,

843
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, that would be men would be

844
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. That's writer's response, like I

845
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: don't want to do this. I don't want to be murdered.

846
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a trader, Like I don't

847
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: have to lie to people's faces now I would Yeah,

848
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: that would be my worst nightmare. Is I would. I

849
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: would start the game as a faithful just no okay,

850
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: no pressure, just like you said, just be honest, don't

851
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: have to lie, never lie, and then get enlisted and

852
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: have to be a trader. Yeah, I'd be so bad,

853
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: talk about like dropping forks. I would just be like

854
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: running into walls, and I wonderumbling over my words. Anybody

855
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: would say murder me, like, I don't want to do it.

856
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't be a trader. I

857
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. It's not probably for me. I

858
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: probably will be dead. I probably would.

859
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: But then I want to know what happens. Do they

860
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: have to you have to go pick somebody else? I

861
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: guess because an ultimatum you could choose to not be

862
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, for a trader, if there's a thing,

863
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: you can't just have one, then that he has to

864
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: go to somebody else.

865
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: It probably has to keep going on the line. But

866
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: you would just get murdered. So Eric would just get

867
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: murdered and get off the and and no one would

868
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: know that he got murdered with the option of being

869
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: enlisted exactly, I mean, I I mean that's the real

870
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: definition of a faithful. You go to the grave faithful. Yeah,

871
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's I don't think you care do that. No,

872
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: you got to play the game. I mean I don't. Yeah,

873
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: although if I was in the situation, I probably please

874
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: get me out of here. I can't. I can't go

875
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: buy my own smoke salmon. I don't need to deal

876
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: with the hugs and the kisses and my own castle

877
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: down the street.

878
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I've got I'm gonna do it on

879
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: my own, Thank you very much. Well.

880
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that they ended with revealing that

881
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: it was Eric that he had chosen to give the

882
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: ultimatum to, because usually we end on more of a cliffhanger.

883
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: What they chose so interesting. Interesting.

884
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad they did. I'm glad, I know, but it's

885
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: still I agreed with you one hundred percent. I'm like,

886
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna I figured the last shot was going to

887
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: be the envelope on the chair. It was the perfect

888
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: ending shot exactly that was gonna be, or maybe a

889
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: hand coming that that that would have been it, and

890
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: then that was it. Of course, if it was a

891
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: fur lined, gloved hand, you'd be like, oh yeah.

892
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: So I think think Rub's thinking was Johnny would be

893
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: the person you enlist who suspicious, right, Eric is somebody

894
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: who because he's a gamer, because you know, like there,

895
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: he would be kind of in between. And the other

896
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: option he throws out is Mark, who nobody has suspected

897
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: of anything. So it's interesting. I feel like he chose

898
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: the sort of middle ground, do you know what I mean?

899
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Because Eric could go either way, Like Eric could be

900
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: just like the nice guy that nobody ever thinks, or

901
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: they're going to go for him because he's been too

902
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: like under the radar, whereas Mark truly has been getting

903
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: a pass by everybody like.

904
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: Rob Yeah, like I'm always I'm so so We've we've

905
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: heard little snippets through the grapevine of how much is

906
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: on the cutting room floor, and you wonder, I mean,

907
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: you we both know this industry well enough. Could they

908
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: have taken exactly the footage that they have from the

909
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: beginning and recut the entire show where Mark just looks

910
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: guilty the entire time m hm, or he's playing brilliantly

911
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: or something like that, because it doesn't seem like they're

912
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: focusing on him at all.

913
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: No, he's mostly just been cut around. It's like, like

914
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: you even get to see him like socializing or being in.

915
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, it just it also just shows you what

916
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: they're doing. I read an interview the other day. I

917
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: forget it might have been with Jam Jam. I forget

918
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: who it was with or Kristen, but they talk about

919
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: how that banquet was six hours long. Oh my god,

920
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: they shot that for six hours. So I mean crazy,

921
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: crazy what we're seeing.

922
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: And what we're not. Yeah, no thanks. Yeah.

923
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: As you know, I am not only a expert on dance,

924
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: but I'm also expert on the famous traders throughout history

925
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: m hm.

926
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: In a segment that I call it.

927
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: With History Trade Hate Wow, almost like a rock metal

928
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: kind of but like Broadway vibe, does that work?

929
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm still working on it anyway.

930
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Today's installment is Pedro Perterno from eighteen fifty seven to

931
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: nineteen eleven. Pedro Praturno is considered the most infamous trader

932
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: in the history of the Philippines. He's a well regarded

933
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: writer and lawyer who never missed an opportunity to gain

934
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: opportunity unity. He negotiated an agreement with the Spanish Empire

935
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety seven in which Filipino revolutionaries would end

936
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: their fight with the Spanish and cooperate with them. He

937
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: urged the Philippines to fight against the United States during

938
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: the Spanish American War and to continue to resist American

939
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: occupation after Spain lost the war. After he was captured

940
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: by the Americans, though, he swore allegiance to the US

941
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: and became president of the Consultive Assembly.

942
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Whoa so consultive consultant?

943
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: Yes?

944
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spain then goes to the US. So wait, did

945
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: he get away with it?

946
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: Like?

947
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Did he live a good life?

948
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: That?

949
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: I Am going to tell you later? How you have

950
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: all this information? I do? It's a it's in my head.

951
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: But I like to leave on a cliffhanger, just like

952
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: you do. Writer. Okay, well, that will do it. For

953
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: this episode of Podmead's World, alliances were tested, trust missed, placed,

954
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: and once again we're left with somewhat of a cliffhanger.

955
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: Join us next time as we continue our journey through

956
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: season four of Traders, a show in which, as Shakespeare

957
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: said in his Scottish play, is foul and foul is fair.

958
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: H