1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I am all in that I am all in with 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, an I Heeart radio podcast. We're gonna do 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: a new little segment here. We're gonna have fans calling 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: into the show with questions, and the first one we 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: have is Francesca, Hello, Francesco, are you there? I'm here. Hi. 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm good? How are you good? Good? 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Where are you calling from? I'm from Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: great city, great city. What a town? What a town? Yeah? Uh? 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: And what is your question? Um? So? The question that 10 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I had, well, I did have two because I didn't 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: like the one that I had, But the first question 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: that I had was from the last episode, um the 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: one where you're not wearing your socks. Um So. The 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: question that I had was because I love the podcast. 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: I love the show. I listened every week. I can't 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: wait every week. I'm like so excited to hear from 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: you guys. So, M the what I what you guys 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: didn't mention was I thought that Nicole was deliberately trying 19 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: to get caught, so that she did that on purpose 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to get a rise out of him, out of loop, 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: to see you know what he would do if she 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: if she would get his attention from that. So I 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: guess my question was if that was if you were 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: in that situation, would you do the same thing, Would 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: you make it deliberate to get caught, or would you 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of go quietly? I well, I've I've that actually 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: happened to me once, and I remember how I reacted. 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: But you were asking me to put myself in in 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Nicole's shoes, and would I ever do something now? I 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: would never do anything like that. Yeah, that's what it 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: seemed like to me, like he was trying to get 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: a rise out of him because she wasn't getting to you. 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I think that's that's I have been on the other 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: end of it, and and I didn't I did that 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: girl did not get the reaction that she was hoping for. 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I think I think Nicole was cheating on Luke. Yes, 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I found someone new, right right. I was thinking, I 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: don't know, like I could say, you know, I could 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: think something differently than that, just because of the whole situation, 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: seeing everything with everybody altogether, with Laura Lee and the 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: whole relationship. I feel like she was trying to get 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: some kind of, you know, a rise out of him, 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: some kind of attention that she was like she did 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: she was trying to gauge his level of interest in 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: her right cheating, but maybe it ended up that way. 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: But so at that point she was like, over it, 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm just going to do what I want to do. Yeah, 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: is he going to fight for me? Kind of right, 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like a hail Mary, 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, because she's at the end of her rope, 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: but she really is not ready to let it go. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: But let's see, how is this man going to just 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: throw down and fight for me at this point? You know, 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Let's see what he does. It's a good theory. It's interesting. 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I have seen that play out in real life. It's 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: entirely possible. Sure, wait, I'm curious what your other question was. 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so my other question was because I feel 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: like I'm more of a Suki what you guys were 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about the last episode of Who You're Most Like? 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: So I was going to ask you, is who your 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: BF in the show would be? Like a Suki to 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: a Laura life, who you would choose as your BF? 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: Like Lane and Rory? Who would be your BF in 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: this show? If you could check one guy? Who would 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: have been any character. It could be you do you 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: tell your you don't want to tell yours first? Oh? 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think my BF and the show would 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: be you know, obviously Laurel Lie. But I think other 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: than that, well, not of interest, like you're kind of like, 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: don't you personally talk to like kind of like I said, 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: like a Suki and a Laurea life, you know, I 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: think weirdly, I think weirdly it would be Kirk. Yeah. 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: I like that because I can't think of anybody else 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: that I would go to. Who would I go to? 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to Taylor. I wouldn't go to anybody. 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nobody to go to. It's Kirk, yeah, 77 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: and there it would be highly comedic choice. Yeah Logan. 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: If Logan can't be my lover, I take him as 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and I don't want to be right right totally. Thank 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: you guys so much. I love every minute of this show. 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: Every week I listen while I cake decorated, work every day, 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: work all day. So I have you guys in my 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: ear laughing to my but I love well, we're really 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm really happy you enjoyed it, because really, the way 85 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: we uh designed this show is to be more of 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: a freestyle open and to kind of play and jack, yes, totally. 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean I love it. You guys go out of order. 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to love it all. But thank you 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: so much. You're very very well. I have been waiting 90 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: for the fans to kind of get in on this, 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: so I'm still thinking. Cool, send us a cake and 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: we'll pump your business. I believe I was gonna say it. 93 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad you did. Yeah, we'll pump your business already, 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: you got it? Yeah, man? Cool? Yeah? What how do 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: people find your cakes? I'm at on Instagram missus fran Cakes, 96 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: so it's like cakes but missus Francakes, missus fran Cakes 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. All right, cool, so go to missus fran 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Cakes everybody. And that's so I heard rumors before you 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: even came on some of the finest cakes in Chicago. Well, 100 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I love you guys, so 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: thank you, guys. We love you too, and we're looking forward. Wait, 102 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: basically all right, Francesco, going guys a little bit, love it, 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: love it, we will thank you, Thank you, all right, 104 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: thank you? Okay, we've got Jenna. Yeah right, look at that. Yeah, 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Look at that you got 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: some cakes. Oh my god, her cakes are so good. 107 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh there goes my stomach again. I'm gonna need more 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: sit ups. Must I do all worth it? I'm sure? 109 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: All right, we've got Jenna on the line. Hi. Jenna, Hello, Hi, 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: where are you calling from? Saint Louis, Missouri? Saint Louis? 111 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys so much for doing this. 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: This is an honor. Oh well, it's an honor. Have 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: you come on? We're who's idea? This was? Was? Amy? 114 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: Was this your idea? Yes? I can explain. Why tell me? 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Tell me why because like four hundred comments this week, 116 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: right who were just so fired up? But I was like, better, 117 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: we better get them on the here. I love it. Jenna. 118 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: What do you What do you do in the Saint Louis? So? 119 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I work in banking, um with small businesses. Oh great, 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: good for you helping them out getting them their loans 121 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: that they need. Yes, we do need. That is so true. 122 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: For sure. I have a small business and we certainly 123 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: could use all the help we can get. So what 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: is your question? Jenna? So my question is, since you 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: guys are about halfway, maybe a little over, halfway through rewatching. 126 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: For those who have not seen all the way through, 127 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: where would you like to see the main characters go 128 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and develop? And for those of you who have or 129 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe have like memories from a year in the life, 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: where would you like to see those characters go? After that? 131 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: All the characters are I'd say, just the main characters, 132 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: your favorites. Well, you know, listen, for me, it's always 133 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: been about a wedding, you know, to to put the 134 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: cherry on top of the cake. Here on the show, 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: it's always been a big wedding, a big community wedding, 136 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: town wedding. Everybody's involved. That's that's how I always envisioned it. 137 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you could get a bunch of episodes, 138 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: uh that deal with just that. It would be quite entertaining, 139 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: I think, quite satisfying for the fans. I think it's 140 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: what the fans want. Yeah, I can I answer Sean. 141 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I feel like Daniell's gonna need to take her headphones. 142 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Probably I thought the same thing. 143 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you, Um, I want to see who 144 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: the baby daddy is and thank you. It's logan like, yeah, 145 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: I mean that you want it to be Logan too, Jenna, 146 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: I do, but I also want her to raise the 147 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: baby with Jess. Wait a minute, Logan baby raised by Jess. 148 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that Jess gets her the most and like 149 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: knows her heart the best, especially after watching like the movies. Um, 150 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: and Logan kind of like her. Christopher so and like 151 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: he can he can provide, But will he be able 152 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: to raise the baby a little bit? How I feel 153 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: about Carrie Big and Aiden? M I see that's so torn. 154 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm very torn. I'm always torn between Big and Aiden, 155 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: and I'm always torn between Jess and Logan. But I 156 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: just gravitate toward Logan. But I wonder if it's the 157 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: same reason I gravitated toward Big, and now I'm I'm 158 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: just ready for Aiden, right, all right, Well there you go. Um, 159 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: this is giving me a lot. Shure he's held on 160 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the old headphones. You can join us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 161 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: thank you. Thank you for your questions, like straight faced 162 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: the whole time, and I was like, I just look 163 00:09:52,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: at my email. I sent you on your headphon. Hi, Jenna, 164 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling in appreciate it, thank 165 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: you and pleasure, Thanks so much, and thanks for helping 166 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: out small businesses, especially after the last couple of years. 167 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: They really need it and you're doing you're doing good things. 168 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: So thank you for that. Thanks so much, and shout 169 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: out to Saint Louis, great town. I love the Arch. Yes, 170 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: love love Saint Louis Cardinals. Sean Sean Gunn is from 171 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Yes he is. He's a Saint Louis boy. Yeah, 172 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: yes he is. Um, so we know what good things 173 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: come from Saint Louis. True. Thank you so much, Jenna, 174 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: much appreciated. Thank you all right, have a good one 175 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: you too, alrighty, So isn't this fun? I like talking 176 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: to people. You're very good at this me. Should you 177 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: just say hello? We should do this like every few weeks. Yeah, 178 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: once every couple of months. I liked the idea, Yeah, 179 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: every couple of months. You're really good at it. We 180 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: knew it because you were kissing babies and hugging grandmas. 181 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, these are the people that make your career 182 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: and it's a little harder for them to be mean 183 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: to us when they're talking. There are no buddy's gonna 184 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: They're not people aren't being mean to us a little bit. 185 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: It's just three years of being isolated in their houses. 186 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: And you know, the amount of comments this week were insane. 187 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: It was I know it was. I think I think 188 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: it was like four hundred comments on one post. It's 189 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: like one of our most ever. And what was the 190 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: main sticking points? Some people were with you and some 191 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: people weren't. It was a lot about what about the 192 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: college education thing? No, about Dean? Oh about Dean? The 193 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Dean thing? Right, sure, it's so funny. The one comment 194 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: that I thought was funny is so I's like, you 195 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: guys know, it's just a show, right. I was like, yeah, 196 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: it's a religion. It's a religion, and these are deities. Man, 197 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: it's not just a show. Jessica, are you there? I'm 198 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: here somewhere. Hi, Jessica, you're you're here because we can 199 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: hear you. How are you doing? Good? Good? Where you 200 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: calling in from Connecticut? Connecticut? What part o the great 201 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: state of Are you calling the middle? And it's about 202 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: sixty five degrees today? Oh? Man? What a beautiful state 203 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: the middle right in the middle, in the middle. Yeah, yeah, boy, 204 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: what a beautiful state. What a beautiful state? Do you 205 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: do you ever get down to Westport and go sailing? No, 206 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of boats, so you wouldn't be doing right. Okay, 207 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: we coming from a person who's afraid of everything. Me. 208 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Why boats? It's like the what is it about boats? Think? 209 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: I don't like not being on solid ground? I'm with you. 210 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Why will you go on plant? Yes? But it's not 211 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the same feeling. It's like that I get that like 212 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: zero G feeling when I'm on a boat and on 213 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: a plane. I don't really get that interesting. So what 214 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: do you do? What do you do in the middle 215 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: of Connecticut? Um? I do a lot of outdoors, like hiking, snowboarding, 216 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: mountain biking. Nice. So nice, man, I tell you, I'm 217 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: getting jealous. I'm getting jealous. Man. You mentioned snowboarding. Yea, 218 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: So what is your question? Okay, so I was wondering 219 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: this is for you, Scott Ann Daniel. Um. Do you 220 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: think your original assessment feelings of the characters, specifically Emily, 221 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: were made too quickly early on or do you think 222 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the show was written specifically that way, so, for example, 223 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: that you would be on Emily's side in the beginning 224 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: before you realize what kind of parents she was. Well, okay, 225 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: so I can't, but I'm experiencing the show the way 226 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the fans experienced a show back in two thousand and 227 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two thousand and two, because they 228 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: didn't know either, so they all everybody drew their own conclusions. 229 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't have, right, right. So so that's the experience 230 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: that I'm having in real time to all the fans 231 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: who've already seen it five thousand times and have figured 232 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: out all the match nations uh and interconnected uh family stuff. 233 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: So I'm they're they're they're coming at me with a 234 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: with a with a an experience and a knowledge base 235 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: that I can't match. I'm just giving these are my 236 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: first impressions. So yeah, I guess to answer your question, 237 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: that's probably what we were all supposed to be feeling, 238 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: given the level of talent of these writers, right um uh. 239 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: And I say this in the best possible sense, how 240 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: highly manipul what if they are, and how good they 241 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: are to lead you down a certain track and then 242 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: surprise you. So yeah, or do do the do the 243 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: opposite of what you think they're going to do? Or 244 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: they make the big small and the small big and 245 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you just don't expect a lot of these things. So 246 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I think for most of the fans. It's a lot 247 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: of fun to take that ride with me and and 248 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: the team here, um because for me it's the first 249 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: time and maybe they can recall, you know, their their 250 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: memories of watching it for the first time now that 251 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: they have it all figured out. Anyway, Danielle, what do 252 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: you think? I completely agree with you on the whole 253 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: writer thing, Like I definitely think that it was made 254 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: like it was made to be that way, like a 255 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: switch of heart, you know, halfway through or whatever. But 256 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: with Emily specifically, I have the exact opposite feeling like 257 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: I've always really loved her, Like I've always loved her, 258 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: but it was never on her quote unquote team until 259 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: season four. Like this season I'm like, I'm so team Emily. 260 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: I think everything she's doing is like I just love 261 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: her so much and I support everything she's doing. So yeah, 262 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean my original like assessment of her, I thought 263 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: she was this tough cookie that nothing can break her, 264 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: and that she is, you know, the will never show 265 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: her emotions. And now in season four we're just seeing 266 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: all her cards. So so yeah, she's definitely changed for me. Cool, 267 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: good question. I've seen it so many times I don't 268 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: remember what I thought about her back in two thousand 269 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: and one, so I was just curious if it was 270 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: if the writers really are that awesome that they design 271 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: it so that you perceive at certain ways. Ye right, yes, yes, um, 272 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean just just just think about, 273 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, how interwoven and complex these characters are, and 274 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: how difficult it would be to write something like that 275 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Weekend week out unless you had a real storyboard up 276 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: there beforehand and maybe changed around a little bit. But 277 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at a wall of post it 278 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: notes and different colors representing different characters, and their paths 279 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: are somewhat plotted out beforehand. Yeah. I read something interesting. 280 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember I read something interesting. I'll have to 281 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: find it. It was in a Gilmore book and Amy 282 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: had been interviewed about Digger and the breakup. How interesting, 283 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: And I think there might have been something. Scott, this 284 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: is a weird question. Do you think there were ever 285 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: things that changed because something, maybe that the writer's thought 286 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: was really going to resonate with the audience, changed when 287 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Oh sure, yeah, oh sure, yeah, yeah, 288 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I see, I see. That's the thing. I think they're flexible. 289 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: I think it's like water. It's like you hope for 290 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: the best and if something does happen. But yeah, I 291 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: think I think they're very um um god, what's the 292 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: word I'm looking for? Um, flexible and how they in 293 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: their approach and you can kind of tell, right um. 294 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's a huge, huge undertaking to 295 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: bring on a writing staff and to get them in 296 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: a room and keep them in a room. And I 297 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: mean the writing staff on this show is just top 298 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: notch and they just I mean not to talk about 299 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: it now, but season seven has a lot of controversy, 300 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: right right that it's a different animal. Sure, yeah, but anyway, 301 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: there you go. So thank you, Jessica. Have fun, stay 302 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: safe snowboarding, and you're so lucky to live out there 303 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: in a beautiful place. Um. Enjoy and enjoy and thanks 304 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: for calling in. Yeah, thanks for having me by guys. 305 00:18:50,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: You got it. Courtney, how are you? Hello? Courtney? How 306 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: are you? It's very nice to meet you. Nice to 307 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: meet you as well. Where are you calling in from? 308 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm from Well, I'm in Illinois, but I'm from the suburbs. 309 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: I never lie in pretend like I'm from Chicago. Okay, 310 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: the suburbs is good. Right, there's more space, lower prices, 311 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: and absolutely clean air. So what do you what do 312 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: you do out there? I'm actually a mental health therapist. 313 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh nice, So you went to school got a degree. Nice, 314 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Good for you. Yeah, I work with children and adolescents 315 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: and then I do a lot of like young adult work. Oh. 316 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: You must be very busy with this coming out of pandemic, 317 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: all these poor kids, right wow. Oh yeah, it's been very, 318 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: very busy. And actually it was kind of interesting that, 319 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: like it was very busy, and then it was the 320 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: moment the world opened back up again. People kind of 321 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: took advantage of that, and now I've had a lot 322 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: more people come in more recently. So this was awesome 323 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: because you guys are my one gap in between my 324 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: sessions today. This is the best break ever. Well, good 325 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: on you for helping out all those people and all 326 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: those kids. They sure need it. And thanks for thanks 327 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: for being a fan. What's your question? So my question 328 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: was I wanted to know what you guys thought was 329 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: the biggest lesson that you guys have each learned from 330 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: the relationships that we've seen so far. So, like, what 331 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: do you think Luke learned from each of his relationships, 332 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: and then like Laurel and Rory, because we've kind of 333 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: seen a good couple rounds here of relationships. So I 334 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: was just interested to see. I think what Luke learned 335 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: from all of these relationships, whether it's Laurel or jess 336 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: Or is that he's not his heart's in the right place, 337 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: his intentions are good, but the road to hell is 338 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: paved with So I think he's finding out that he's 339 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: not particularly good at them, um, because I think he's 340 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of an isolated guy and he's got 341 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: his own little set of phobias that you know, come 342 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: to the surface when he's put into these situations that 343 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: he's that he's not capable of dealing with. So he 344 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: either just shuts down or overreacts and he runs. It's 345 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: like the fight or flight response. He he likes. He 346 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: likes to run a lot. Yes, So That's what I've 347 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: learned about Luke. Yeah, very cool, And I was just curious, 348 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: like now that especially Laureli, like because she's gone through 349 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Christopher and Max and Digger at this point, Um and 350 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: them that briefing with Alex, do you like, what would 351 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: you say was kind of the overall lesson she's learned, 352 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: whether based on each relationship or like as a grand whole. 353 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: So far, what do you think she's kind of taken away? Um? Amy, 354 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: you want to try that one? Yeah, because well, okay, 355 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: so I come to this with the knowing what's coming, 356 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: and so please don't hate me nothing yet. Okay, I 357 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: don't think she's learned anything yet. Yeah, That's what I 358 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: was very curious about, because knowing where things continue to 359 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: go and evolve and change too, It's like, what what 360 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: really is she carrying with her as she engages in 361 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: the future, but also where where she fully learns until 362 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: a year in the life. If I'm going to be 363 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: a really honest Yeah, she's so reactionary and so all 364 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: over the map emotionally, and yeah, I don't think she 365 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: has a handle on I mean, I mean, she's got 366 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: this sort of survivors emotional life where she's good at 367 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: that and she knows from that, But as far as 368 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: healing old wounds and really understanding why she is the 369 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: way she is, I don't think there's a lot of 370 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: self awareness there. Yeah. Yeah, I think because she's just 371 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: so she's just in such defensive mode all of the time, 372 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: all of the cracks and all the jokes and all 373 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: of the putdowns, I mean right in front of her parents. 374 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: And I know that's you know, it's a TV show, 375 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: so this is serving us as an audience and the 376 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: whole time. But I mean, if we're to be you know, 377 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: completely clinical about it, um, yeah, I don't. Yeah, there's 378 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: not a there's either a tremendous amount of self awareness 379 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: where she's just moved on and accepted the fact, or 380 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: the opposite where there's none. And it's just like it's 381 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: just all fear based covering. And that's why people want 382 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: a year in the life too, so bad, because there's 383 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: so much more we want to see this evolved. Fine, 384 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the year in the Life, 385 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: she's she's evolving, right, Yeah, I don't know, that's just mine. 386 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: And she discovers all of this at the big wedding, 387 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: big huge wedding. Yeah, it's kind of like my thought 388 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: is kind of like she goes into each relationship the 389 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: same as though the last one didn't just happen, and then, 390 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: like you're saying, she becomes very reactive when all of 391 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: a sudden something similar comes up, But there's no difference 392 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: in her response or how it's handled, and then she 393 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: just runs away or tries to deflect it off. But 394 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: I think that Jason styles relationship. I think she did 395 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: learn something from that, and I think she did evolve 396 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: and grow a little bit from that because of the 397 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: way she handled breaking up with him was like, you, 398 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: I can't be with somebody that's going to assume my family. 399 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: And so she chose a side that was that was 400 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: that was significant. It was deep, It was really deep, 401 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: and I think it was the beginning of some kind 402 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: of a the on of awakening on who she really 403 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: is and where she comes from and maybe maybe accepting 404 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: it a little bit instead of trying to keep them so, 405 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's such a distance, it's like I am 406 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: who I am, and maybe that's the first time she 407 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: may realize it. I don't know. That's so accurate, Scott. 408 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: She's the Gilmore and she's picking the Gilmore. Yes, and 409 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: we never get to see her do that. Right, That's 410 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: why I really do fit here. These are my people, 411 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: as much as I don't feel like I relate to them, 412 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: like they still are me, Like this is my family, 413 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: this is my blood is thicker than water. Right, Because 414 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: she got to experience a little bit of death right 415 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: with her. Her. The precursor for act the actual dying 416 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: was in that scene where her parents were acting so 417 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: off the wall and so bizarre and so disconnected and 418 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: she didn't know why. And that's the same thing as 419 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: experiencing a parent that you know, perhaps you haven't seen 420 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: them in a while, and then they have Alzheimer's and 421 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: they don't remember who you are or they're they're just 422 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: not and it's like, that is shocking, and that'll shake 423 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: somebody to their core and bring them back into the 424 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: fold as a caregiver or as somebody who wants to 425 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: really reconnect or or get to the bottom of why 426 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: and just leave all that other garbage behind because it 427 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Right, All of a sudden, real life presents 428 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: itself and we see that we're like, you know, finite beings, 429 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: and then we're not going to be around forever, and 430 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: we better embrace our our parents and who we are 431 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: and and just you know, that's why I thought that 432 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: scene it was such a big moment. It was her, 433 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: It was her being calm and accepting who she was, 434 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: even if it wasn't one hundred percent conscious, it was 435 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: there was still there was a recognition of who she was. 436 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: It was the beginnings of a recognition. So it was 437 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: profound for me. It was just profound scene my favorite scene. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, 438 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: So what else she got? What else she got? What 439 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: else you got? Well? And then so my last one 440 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: was about Rory. So we've had Dean, we've had Jess, 441 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: and now she hasn't had anybody in college yet. But 442 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: she's also interacted with people. She's watched her mom go 443 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: through these different relationships. She's seen the evolution of more 444 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: relationships I think than she's actually experienced. So as far 445 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: as the lesson maybe that she's learned, I don't know 446 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: if you feel like it's a lesson she's learning. He 447 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: is coming based on her own experience or based on 448 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: an observation of those around her. So I'm curious. I mean, 449 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: just that's a combination of both, isn't it. Because she 450 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: doesn't have enough life, she doesn't have enough miles on 451 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: the road of life to really know exactly who she is. 452 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: But I think for somebody for that age who grew 453 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: up in those circumstances where she pretty much had to 454 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: be the mother half the time she grew up a 455 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: lot faster, and I think she's working from a more 456 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: versatile and more more evolved tool set um coping mechanisms 457 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: and um, you know what, I think she's really good at. 458 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I think she's really good at at letting water run 459 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: right off her back and just keep moving forward because 460 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: she's had to do it since she was a kid. 461 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, still she's still her 462 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: mother's daughter. Yeah, oh yeah, but when do we see 463 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: But if you see this dysfunction, when when is it displayed? Right? 464 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: When things are true, I think what you're saying, Scott 465 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: is true, and she's her mother's daughter, so she's just 466 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: those two opposing forces can also be true. Yeah, And 467 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: I do think what you're saying is right. She is 468 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: more level headed and she is different, but then she's 469 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: so the same, right, Yeah, And I think she tries 470 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: to take that one like step up from what Laurel 471 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: I may have done, but it still might look different 472 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: or not even play out the same because she's not 473 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the age of her mom. She's not in those types 474 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: of relationships. She's in the this is my first love, 475 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: and then this is my first whoa after that, and 476 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: it's messy. We haven't gotten to it yet, but I 477 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: think it's next week. Two weeks, two weeks, yeah, you know, 478 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: last night and I was like, is this Yeah, it's 479 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: going it's and and and I won't even say it, 480 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: but there's so many parallels, like we'll talk about it then, 481 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: like loyalized disappointment, but it's like, wait a minute, are 482 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: you talking about? Are you talking about right now? Sorry, 483 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: we can't, we can't. Just need to shut that down 484 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: right now. I will say one thing I like about 485 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Rory in her relationships that she never changes, Like she's 486 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: really true to who she is. Like right, she's always 487 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be a journalist, She's always wants to do this, 488 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: and she's never like changed for a guy in that sense, 489 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Like you know, she Dean embraced that she loved to 490 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: read books, and he started reading books for her, and 491 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: like you wanted to go to college. And then with Jess, 492 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: that was their whole relationship that you know, he did 493 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: read all these books that Dean never did or didn't 494 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: know and with and with jumping ahead a little bit 495 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: with Logan, like he just kind of understands that she 496 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: wants to be successful. So like I think with all 497 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: of that like she's staying true to who she is. 498 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: I think she's a lot to learn, um. But I 499 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: think that just she didn't change for any guys, which 500 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I respect. If I look at the generations of Emily, Laurela, Rory, 501 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: we are getting the same behavior, but with different ethical 502 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and moral compasses assigned to each. And I thought what 503 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: was interesting about Rory confronting Asher at the end of 504 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: this episode. I thought that was an extension of the 505 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: family DNA. Right, that a spine of iron, Yet it 506 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: goes into the uh. I thought that scene went into 507 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: the area of a little bit of self sabotage, which 508 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: makes sense because she's seen her mother do it. Yeah right, wow, 509 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if Emily's ever done that, but 510 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: a rebellious daughter with a spine of of iron would 511 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: do that, and a and a daughter watching her mother 512 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: do that being loyal to her mother can't help but repeat. 513 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: But it wasn't as deep as she didn't dig as 514 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: deep a hole as Laurel like sometimes digs for herself, 515 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: as we've seen time and time again. But there's a 516 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: little inkling that Rory is her mother's daughter. And I 517 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: was imment right, right, And no, actually a big improvement. 518 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: But but I was like, I was, you know, it's 519 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: like going, oh no, oh, she's gonna blow it at Yale. 520 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, this is just don't do this, don't say don't. 521 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: Then the comment came about the redhead, and I was like, 522 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: oh god, no, that's like that's going to leave a 523 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: mark and there's gonna be repercussions. Right, but she you know, 524 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: you're you're right about that. Amy the mother's daughter. She 525 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: is her mother's daughter for sure. Anyway, Oh good stuff 526 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: is makes me think, so, yeah, yeah, you must be 527 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: one heck of a therapist. Could we come to Illinois 528 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and get therapized to please autely? When are you guys 529 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: have one therapist on? Like early on in the show, 530 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: I was living for that episode. I know, I was thinking, 531 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: we need to do that again. I would need to 532 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: bring that back to Courtney. We've got to make sure 533 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: to keep your number because I would like to do 534 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: that again. That was really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 535 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: maybe actually after the thing that's coming, do I have 536 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: to take my headphones off again? No? No, no, she 537 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: has to back it up, She's got to back it up. 538 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: I always have so many thoughts and like there's a 539 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: part of me that has my fan brain on. That's 540 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: just like I'm just enjoying this and I'm going through 541 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: it and then my therapist brain starts. But I really 542 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: appreciate though, that you guys put this podcast together, because 543 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: you guys talk about the show in such a different 544 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: way than I think I've experienced other rewatch podcasts as well. 545 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like the how in depth you guys 546 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: go in analyzing it, it's something again as a therapist, 547 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I very much appreciate. But it's but that's where But 548 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: that's what's so fascinating about the show, Yeah, is that 549 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: it lends itself to that. You know, it's begging for 550 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: that type of analysis. You know, I don't know, it's 551 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: just for me, it's obvious, it's just there. It's like 552 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: has to be talked about. I agree with you, Scott. Yeah, 553 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: you know it's so rewatchable, right, I think so, I 554 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: think I think that's another reason. Yes, it's not just 555 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: the pop culture references in the Yeah, it's not just 556 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: oh this is the show happy everybody vomiting sunshine all 557 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: the time, you know. And I love the way people 558 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: have changed from the first time they watched it twenty 559 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: years ago to the way they see it now, and 560 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: that's happened for me where I'm like, wait, why do 561 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: I like that person more or less now? Yeah? Just 562 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: even watching it, like I think six years ago to now, 563 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel very differently about people and things 564 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: for sure, but I love it no matter what. All right, 565 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: So Corny, we're gonna have to have you back on 566 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: it looks like maybe probably in two weeks. Maybe please 567 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: make my day. It's all the best, Teria. Thanks for 568 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: calling in. Lovely meeting you, nice chat. We'll do it again. Okay, 569 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys so much. All right, take care. 570 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: People are so nice. Wasn't she great? They're so smart, 571 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: They're all great. Right, get my god? Hello Ashley, there's Ashley. Hello. Hello, 572 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: connected to audio Ashley. How are you doing? I'm good? 573 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: How are you? Can you guys see me? Yes, we 574 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: can see it and all of your glory? And and 575 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: where where are you calling in? From? Um? New Jersey? 576 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: Where I'm from Jersey? You're from Jersey. I'm from Jersey. Where? Um, Well, 577 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm originally from northern Jersey totala um near like Wayne 578 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: Patterson area, but now I'm Northwestern. I'm about a half 579 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: hour from the Poconos, so I'm like right on the boarder. 580 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're way out there. Yeah, okay, cool cool. 581 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm also I'm also a Rutgers al. I'm not like yourself, 582 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: no way, Scarlett Knights. Um so, how are you doing? 583 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: What are you? What do you do for a living? Um? 584 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: I am an accountant? Oh my goodness, there you go, 585 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: but I am currently on maternity leave. I just had 586 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: my son two months ago. Oh lovely, And if you 587 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: don't mind, he would like to show you. Let's let's 588 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: see the little fellow. Let's see this little guy. Oh stop, stop, buddy, 589 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: what's it's his name? Jamison? Hey, buddy, first, yes, it's 590 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: our first baby. Luke's sure. Look at this guy. Oh 591 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: what a dream? What a dream? That was so good? 592 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: And say no, glady, titties welcome anytime. Look at this guy? 593 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: Is Jamieson. Have a nice life, buddy. So Ashley, what 594 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: is your question? Um so, I guess just I guess 595 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: it's more first you, Scott and Udan Yelle, since you 596 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: guys have never seen it, because I know Tara and 597 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Amy know what's coming. But I'm just curious what do 598 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: you guys think is going to happen based on these 599 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: last few um episodes where things kind of blew up? 600 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Because this is in my opinion, and I'm not exaggerating, 601 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: I've watched this show straight through at least one hundred times. 602 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's my comfort show. It's on in 603 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: the background on every day in my house. It's my son, who's, 604 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: like I said, only two months, has probably seen it 605 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: twice straight. Do you love these episodes? Like everybody? A 606 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: lot of people are writing us that this four are 607 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: their favorites of the serials. Oh yeah, there there's some 608 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: of the best. I'm team Logan all the way, So 609 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: I like the Logan episodes the same I do. Two. 610 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: Do you think it's because we love Matt Zukery. I 611 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: just that's my thing that I haven't been able to 612 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: figure out. Do I love Logan or do I love 613 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: Matt Like I don't know. I don't know. There's just 614 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: something about Logan and I think when I was younger 615 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: and I first watched these, it was the blonde hair 616 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: that got me. Like I was always a big Nick 617 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: Carter fan with a Backstreet boylan blue eye look. I 618 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know what it was. But yeah, so I love 619 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: the Logan episodes, but this season four is I think 620 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: the best season just because of the storylines in the 621 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: pod yt. These episodes are just insane. So I'm just curious. 622 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm kind of jealous. You've never seen it before, and 623 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm just curious that you guys think it's going to 624 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: having coming up. Well, I know what's going to happen 625 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: between Luke and Laurel. I in terms, I know the 626 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: kiss is coming because of course I remember that. Um, 627 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: although I can't be sure it's going to happen in 628 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: season four. I think it does happen in season four. 629 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: It might be the finale. I'm not sure. Oh God, Oh, 630 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: for God's say, it's fine, You're fine, You're fine. See 631 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: you give me a hard time, Scott when I mess 632 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: it up. Well, you know, I'll keep them on because 633 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: the questions for you. But you're the one that's supposed 634 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: to be telling people to take the headphones. That's not 635 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: in my resume. I don't I don't know how to 636 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: do that. You're good at that. It's okay. I would 637 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: have predicted that was going to happen anyways. Yeah, well, 638 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: do you know about the kiss right, she does you 639 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: because I remember, I think we spoiled something. It's in 640 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: the lore of the universe. Now it's hard to talk 641 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: about it the show as a whole, Do you know 642 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because there's so many things that I 643 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: can't decide. Do I think that? Because I know? Right? 644 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, I have no idea when I when I 645 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: listen to you guys, and you say things, and I'm like, no, 646 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: that did. But so I don't know how you do it, 647 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: because I would be given the whole plot away. No, 648 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't 649 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen between Emily and Richard. I 650 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: assume they're going to work it out somehow and get 651 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: back together. Um. I don't know what's going to happen 652 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: with anything going on at Yale. I can't even predict it. Um. 653 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: I guess just more high jinks from Paris and and 654 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, the roommate situation and uh, you know, I'm 655 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: assuming she'll meet a guy another guy, uh, Royal meet 656 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: a guy up there. Um, and I guess the dragonfly 657 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: gets off the ground. But as as far as providing 658 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: any real predictive detail, I have no idea. I just 659 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: have no idea. Yeah, I I do think Richard and 660 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: Emily will be fine, Like they'll figure it out. Um. 661 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm still really stuck on the Dean Brewery storyline because 662 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's obviously it's gonna something's going to 663 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: happen there. So I don't know what what's going to happen. Obviously, 664 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: I know she doesn't end up with him because this 665 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: logan guy comes in at some point, but you know, 666 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: outside of that, I don't know there's something happening with Dean. 667 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: That's all I know. Yeah, I feel like it's it's 668 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: kind of I guess it's a hard question to answer, 669 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: so I'm sorry because there's so many ways that can go. 670 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: But just as a first time viewer, I always wonder 671 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: what people you know think. Yeah, wait, Ashley, if I 672 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: can ask you one question before you go, what is 673 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: like one word that Gilmore Girls brings you? Like you've 674 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: seen it a hundred times? Like, what is it about it? 675 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: Like maybe a couple of words just to describe, like 676 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: the it makes you feel, which is why you like 677 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: love it so much? It honestly it just makes me happy, 678 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: Like I just, um, I it ended when I was 679 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: in high school. Um, I think the year it ended, 680 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: I was graduating high school and I didn't really watch it. 681 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: I started watching it in college on DVDs when all 682 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: the series yeah yeah ds. We were just saying that 683 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: they were expensive too. They weren't. It was expensive, like 684 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: you had to pay like eighty bucks for the season 685 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: or something crazy. They would be like on my Christmas 686 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: list each year because I'm like, on in college, I 687 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: can't afford this, like somebody else care. My favorite episodes 688 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: at the time where when Morey was in Yale, because 689 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: she just looked so cool, like walking to campus with coffee. 690 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna do that, like I'm gonna 691 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: go get my latte and um. And now when I 692 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: watch it, it it just makes me think back on all 693 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: that and so I love that. Yeah, that's it. There's 694 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: something about Logan that also ages her up. Yeah, the 695 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: relationship is yeah adult, she grows up. I feel like 696 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: with Logan, and I mean, without kind of giving anything away, 697 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: I feel like this season she kind of acting a 698 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: little childish in some ways, and I think she kind 699 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: of grows up a little bit more once Logan comes 700 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: until the thing, which we want to talk about the thing. Yeah, 701 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: the thing and Logan really, Logan really feels cology to me. Yeah, 702 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: with all his antics and like being the popular guy 703 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what 704 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: it is about him. I've had many many conversations or 705 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: I guess I should say disagreements with friends, because I 706 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends that are team Jess all 707 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: the way and I can't do it. If you met 708 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Matt Sucre, then you would understand, Yeah, he's a spectacular 709 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: human being. I became team Logan over but so is 710 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: my low so and so is Jared. It's like every 711 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: time we say that, then I go, well wait because 712 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: my low is like, yeah, well we're talking about Logan. 713 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: So did you watch before you go? Did you watch 714 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: The Good Wife? Or do you watch The Resident? I 715 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: do not the Residence on my list though, because I 716 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: hear great things about so both are ex silent, and 717 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: I also think one of the reasons I love both 718 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: of them it is because of Matt Zukri. So sometimes 719 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: I go back to you do I just the show? Right? 720 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: Like that's how I am about Milo shows though, Like 721 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: this is like and then he's coming out with a 722 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: new show. I'm like, I'm definitely watching that like one 723 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: hunder because of him. But like if you clicked on 724 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: a People magazine article and it's like Matt Zukri is 725 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: dating so and so or Matt Zukri marries so and so, 726 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: I will cry, But I think a little bit, I'll 727 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: have a little tinge of you'll die die a little 728 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: bit inside, just a little. Did you guys talk about 729 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: this episode, this next episode yet? Did you like, Yeah, 730 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: we just finished that. Okay, Yeah, that's that's the that's 731 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, that's the that's the episode breakdown for 732 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. Yes, we just we just finished doing it. 733 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: I just listened to Monday's episode that you released yesterday, 734 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: Shop good. A lot of times am I to get 735 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: home before it's finished. I just sit in the car 736 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: and let him sleep, and I finished work anymore, so 737 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: I have to go out and listen to them out 738 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: in my travels. All right, Ashley, thank you for calling in. 739 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: Good luck with everything, beautiful baby boy, stay in touch 740 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: and all the best too in your family. Okay. Also, crazily, 741 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,479 Speaker 1: James Pettitt just texted Live that there's Luke Pillows back 742 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: and stop. This is this is this is fantastic exactly 743 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: all right, as, thank you so much, take care all right, 744 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 1: nice talking to you. The nicest people ever, I think, great. 745 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think I want to go out and 746 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: hug there? Fantastic? That was the best text ever. Daniel's like, 747 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: Scott is thriving, Tony Hillo, how are you doing? Wait? 748 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: Is that a real backdrop? Oh well, yes, it's actually 749 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: the skyline. It looks kind of Oh my god, where 750 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: are you were? I'm in Louisville, Kentucke. I'm coming. I'm 751 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, I'm popcorn June sixteenth through eighteen. I'm 752 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna be there. I hope to make it. It sounds awesome. 753 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: You better be there. Looks really pretty from here. Yeah, 754 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: so cold day. So I hear the best things about Louisville. 755 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. That's so cool. I would 756 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: not have guessed that in a million guess cool little spot. 757 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: So what do you What do you do over there 758 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: in Louisville? I am in marketing. I actually work at 759 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: the corporate headquarters for a senior living company. Wow. A 760 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: lot of responsive as it is a lot of responsibility. Yeah, absolutely, 761 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: So what is your question, Tony, My question is, um, 762 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've obviously watched the series several times, 763 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: and I see a great shocking. We are shocked. We 764 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: never wait a minute? Does she win the prize? Uh, 765 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure you haven't heard it all day, but uh, 766 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: there's a major evolution of a lot of the characters, right, 767 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: And so as you guys are approaching the end of 768 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 1: season four, I'm curious what you all think the main 769 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: characters major flaws are. Oh, good question, good question. I'm 770 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: not anybody, but it's great to hear Scott answer that. 771 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: I want to know anything the major flaws of Okay, 772 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: let's start with Laurela. Major flaws I think are just 773 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: sort of, um, there's kind of a lack of uh 774 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: uh self knowledge. Uh, there's I think she has several 775 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: blind spots because of her very strong feelings about her 776 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: upbringing and what happened and the choices that she made 777 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: and having Rory and that whole experience with her her 778 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: mother and father, going through that and being estranged for 779 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: all those years and then coming back into the uh 780 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, the tornado that is uh that dynamic, right, So, 781 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: uh so I think she's got to gain some insight, 782 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: and she is gaining some insight into her own feelings, 783 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: which I think is fascinating to watch. Uh. As far 784 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: as Rory flaws, Umm, I don't really see any flaws 785 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: in other than the one we just saw. There's a 786 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: little bright right, maybe a little self sabotage there, a 787 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: little self righteousness, but she I think she's she's very 788 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: circumspect and she'll sort of she'll figure it. I feel 789 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: like she does that a couple of times though. Yeah, 790 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: like self sabotage herself through. Yeah, I think is you 791 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: guys get deeper into it. Rory's the one to watch, 792 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: and I just you see that. We see that on 793 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: the Instagram comments a lot phones, headphones coming off headphones. 794 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: But many people, not me, do not come at me 795 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: because I do not think this, but a lot of 796 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: people in the comments think Rory can be kind of toxic. 797 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, whah, I ain't talking about my girl, careful. 798 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: I think through the series you see that though you 799 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: see it ever really every season? I mean yeah, as 800 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: a season go on. Yeah, Wow, that's quite a word, 801 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: do you. Yeah, Toxic is sort of a word like narcissist. 802 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: It's like what does it even mean all it makes 803 00:48:52,600 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 1: me think of it's like you're toxic. I immediately put 804 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: you like in the toxic music video. I don't know. 805 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Have you guys been doing this a long time? 806 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: You've seen like really two years? You mean like the show, 807 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: the podcast? I mean like today the call o No No. 808 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: We started drinking at about three hours three hours. Yeah, 809 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: I have to go. I took I took a break. 810 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: I took a break Scott. It was so funny. I 811 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: don't want to oute you, but Scott's like, hey, guys, 812 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back in one minute. Like Scott has 813 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: to go. I want to, but I'm just holding it. Yeah. 814 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: I had this little voice in the back of my 815 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: head and said, now, I weirdly did change my clothes. 816 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: Thought during Yeah, you came back as a leopard or something. Right, 817 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: what's going on? A cat some kind of jungle cat 818 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: and Tony Now you know why we get sidetracked? A 819 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: she came back dressed for a music video? What the 820 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: heck is going on? Anyway? Other major character flaws, m oh, 821 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: give me a little bit grouchy and like, oh you 822 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: think I feel um? He doesn't want to admit his feelings. 823 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,479 Speaker 1: I think he's just I think he's got a hard 824 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: Uh he's got a new get center with a hard 825 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: candy shell. Yeah. Yeah, alutely. I think he m he 826 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: gets in his own way a lot. Yes, he's always Yes, 827 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: he's always tripping out for himself. Yeah, for sure, Uh, 828 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:06,240 Speaker 1: Amy Daniel, I mean I think Emily and Richard are complicated. 829 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Like it's hard for me to kind of 830 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: sort of pinpoint it. They're just complicated because they're selfless 831 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: and selfish, they're you know, they're they're very opposing well, 832 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: Richard Richard Chers are hard working mama's boy and yeah 833 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and uh, you know Emily is a a 834 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: status seeker and a climber. Yeah. But at the end 835 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: of the day, I think they really love their families 836 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: so much, and we see that with where we're at 837 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: that Emily's biggest concern is that she's going to lose 838 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: Laurlie and Rory, and Richard's biggest concern is I will 839 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 1: sacrifice everything to make sure these people that I love 840 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: are provided for and taking care of. So they're each 841 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: doing the same thing, but they have their different ways 842 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: of doing it. Yeah. Absolutely, I think Emily can be 843 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: a little woman fulative, and they all a lot of 844 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: all the Gilmore girls can be manipulative. There. There's something 845 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: about these high i Q individuals that manipulate. I don't 846 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: know what it is. Why do they why? Why do 847 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: they guy do that? Why? They're all really stubborn. Stubborn. 848 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: That's a word we don't use a lot. And you 849 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: know what, I think they should be stubborn too. I 850 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, that's a that's a really intuitive sort 851 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: of words. Use it. We haven't used enough on the podcast. 852 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: But they are. Yeah, they're tough. Yeah, and they're tough 853 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: when they dig in. They're tough their heart because Emily stubborn. 854 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: They're all stubborn. We see that more coming soon. It's 855 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: like a Faberge egg with blood on it. These are 856 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: tough people, classy tough, right. Um. Yeah, So that's that's 857 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: basically anything. Thank you, yeah, thank you for calling in 858 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,240 Speaker 1: Tony from Lovely Louisville. We'll see you right around Saint Patrick. 859 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: There you go. I think you're there right around Saint 860 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, right March fifteenth and the seventh summer right, No, oh, 861 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 1: you're right. It's June sixteenth, Y Father's Day. Yeah, if 862 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: you're in Toronto. Yeah, I'm hoping there are going to 863 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: be some other cast members there, so but either way, Scott, 864 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm there for you. Okay, cool, cool. I can't wait 865 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: to meet you in person. Thank you all so much 866 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 1: for taking the time. This is so much fun. Thank 867 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: you Tony. Thanks for being a part of it. Appreciate 868 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: you all. Right, take care. So I think people should 869 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: should DM us or instagram us or however you do 870 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: that for the next one. I think we should do this, 871 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: like we should do this every week. Actually, people are 872 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: so nice. I'm scared for the now that people are 873 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: going to be like those people are too nice. We're 874 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: coming after them. Let them. That's fine, let's go bring it. 875 00:53:50,160 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: Bring it all in for an eyeballs dot Hey everybody, 876 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am 877 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: All In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio 878 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh you're Gilmore fans. If you're looking for 879 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: the best cup of coffee in the world, go to 880 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: my website from my company scott ep dot com, s 881 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: c O T t yp dot com, scottip dot com. 882 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: Grade one Specialty Coffee