WEBVTT - Dope Labs Archives: Cuffing Season

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bye week this week, which means there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a new episode of Dope Labs, but we are really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to reshare one of our very favorite episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's three years later, but not too much has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Our Cuffing season schedule is the same, so we're right

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft of Cuffing season.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Wondering what we're talking about when we say cuffing season.

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<v Speaker 3>This lab is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on the market for a new boot, get

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<v Speaker 1>out your pen and paper.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm TT and I'm Zukiah.

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<v Speaker 1>And from Spotify Studios. This is Dope Labs. Can and

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<v Speaker 1>I met in grad school where we were both getting

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<v Speaker 1>our pahds. Mine is in engineering and hers symbology. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a tough time, to say the least, and in

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<v Speaker 1>our pursuit to get the hell out of there, we

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<v Speaker 1>became cousin. You know how black folks do. She my

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<v Speaker 1>play cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>TT and I would set up our experiments to run overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we'd go to the bar calculing those people's faces

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<v Speaker 2>until about two am, go home, change our lipstick to

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<v Speaker 2>a daytime color, and head back to the lab. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've basically been doing this podcast since twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just now hitting record.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast ain't for your mama, it ain't for your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about things from TMZ, shade Room, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>the barbershop, the hair salon. We are the people's scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about things that you and your crew

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be talking about in your group chats

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<v Speaker 1>and at brunch.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>If grad school taught us anything is how to ask

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<v Speaker 2>a good question. So what we're gonna do is take

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<v Speaker 2>all the t and shade from the internet and use

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<v Speaker 2>the scientific approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, like, how did Safari get that new airlines?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that inpatient or outpatient?

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<v Speaker 4>Sir?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then everybody talking about mercury being in retrograde? What

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<v Speaker 2>does that have to do with your bad attitude? How

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<v Speaker 2>you can't keep using that excuse?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, what is the sunken place? Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing? Is that like a real disorder?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's a real place. It has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy that's at the front door at

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<v Speaker 1>my apartment building is in the sunken place. Every morning

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<v Speaker 1>when he sees me, he says, good morning, madam.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody talks like that, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>A black man. No, nobody's talking like that.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes down to it, we just want to

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<v Speaker 2>help you appreciate the science in your day to day.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust us, we're doctors. Welcome to the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to TG go to key t.

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<v Speaker 5>Up.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we dive into our first subject, we really want

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<v Speaker 2>to just lay out how this podcast works.

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<v Speaker 1>Dope Labs is based on our actual experiences in the lab, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said earlier, we're actually scientists.

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<v Speaker 3>The first step in any lab is a recitation.

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<v Speaker 1>And a recitation is like a summary.

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<v Speaker 2>In the recitation, we bring everyone up to speed and

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<v Speaker 2>lay out the basics.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we already know and what do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's time for the deep dive. We call that

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<v Speaker 2>part of the podcast the dissection.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when we bring in the experts and ask

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<v Speaker 1>them all the questions. Finally, you draw your conclusion and

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<v Speaker 1>at that point you're basically a scientist.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's twenty years or so. But at Constant School.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think we're in the position to really

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<v Speaker 2>grant people like PhD I dub the a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>You sir, are a biologists.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>So let's get to the recitation.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we're talking about cuffing season, and so let's figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what we already know about it and what we

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<v Speaker 1>want to know more about And who knows better than

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<v Speaker 1>y'all the people on the front lines of cuffing season.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Do either of you know what cuffing season is? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't no idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Where do you start cuffing your paths around

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<v Speaker 1>fall time?

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<v Speaker 6>What's cuffing season?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard to explain. It's like when you got a

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<v Speaker 6>mutual thing with somebody and you're ready to stop seeing

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<v Speaker 6>other people, then you take that leap.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I think it's the phenomenon that the

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<v Speaker 8>colder months are coming. You don't want to endure those

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<v Speaker 8>by yourself. Something from my very distant past before I

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<v Speaker 8>met my current wife, winter hibernation.

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<v Speaker 3>You date people over the winter. Yes, that's exactly it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you guys are locked in, Yeah, and we have handcuffs?

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<v Speaker 5>Whoah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you all ready for cuffing season?

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<v Speaker 4>Ah? I am not ready for cuffing season. I'm taking applications.

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<v Speaker 4>My dms are open.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to be a kuffer or a cuffee,

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<v Speaker 1>you want somebody to come get you. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be out here.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, I'm a strong, independent black woman.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everybody, all.

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<v Speaker 4>These men, everybody around what happened, But like I would

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<v Speaker 4>want the cuffin to be mutual, Like we both come

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<v Speaker 4>to a place like damn, I really violece with you heavy,

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<v Speaker 4>Like Damn, I think I might love you now we're cuffed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that was my first time talking to strangers

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<v Speaker 1>not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>We know cuffing season has become pretty mainstream since it

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<v Speaker 2>started trending on Twitter about a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some mainstream. Now even white folks know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>But for those of you who are still living under

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<v Speaker 2>a rock and you're still unclear about what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the breakdown. It's the time of year when single

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<v Speaker 2>people start to look for a partner to be their

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<v Speaker 2>boo until the weather gets warm, my boo hoo. That

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<v Speaker 2>falsetto This is definitely not a long term thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a short term situation for people who don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and be social during the wintertime, and

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<v Speaker 2>when it warms up, you release that cuff back into

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<v Speaker 2>the wild. And people take this seriously. Google cuffing season

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<v Speaker 2>right now, you're gonna come across contracts calendars with all

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<v Speaker 2>these deadlines.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at one of these calendars right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a day to day breakdown of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing. It is crazy. Flirt Week starts

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<v Speaker 1>in September, the first week of September, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have to start sending good morning texts at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of September. Then the good morning texts continue through October.

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<v Speaker 1>The first week of October, and then the last three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of October, you're supposed to be sealing the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So after that you're with that person throughout the winner

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<v Speaker 1>and you stay cuffed with that person until today Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a science to cuffing season, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>actual science behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>Cuffing season draws elements of so many different sciences psychology, biology, chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>Genetics, and if we can understand some of the science

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<v Speaker 1>behind cuffing season, maybe it'll help us strategize.

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<v Speaker 2>Write Zakiah, that's right, full disclaimer. Okay, I see where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going.

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<v Speaker 3>So this past cuff and season, I was all in.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gung ho.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yes, I'm going to fully participate. I'm out here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I was like, all right, I'm I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a cuff, but nothing too too serious. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you think I have a commitment problem, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean she has a commitment problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go with a six month contract, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and based on performance and option to renew.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a cell phone plan.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of questions about what's actually going on, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this something that is innate within all of us?

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<v Speaker 1>Have we always been cuffing like we're Adam and Eve cuffing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, apples are a fall fruit? Do animals have a

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<v Speaker 2>cuffing season? Does it fit the same schedule or calendar

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<v Speaker 2>year like we have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So I think we should call in

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<v Speaker 1>some reinforcements.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for the dissection.

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<v Speaker 1>We evenen listed our good friend, doctor Alex Tria t

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<v Speaker 1>helps Akia figure out what she's been doing wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been doing anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, that's that was unfair, But there's always room

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<v Speaker 1>for growth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, my name is Alex Trio and I'm a behavioral

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<v Speaker 7>a cologist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get it for College, Alex studies a sexual selection

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<v Speaker 1>and mating behaviors of beetles and other species.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking more along the lines of Prince Charming, not

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<v Speaker 2>beetled you. But I guess if you think about it, humans,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just animals, these bingernails, soft claws.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, things have changed a lot since Kman days, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, Things have changed since the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, if we're being honest, since the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Except turtlenecks. Turtlenecks are still in.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very true. Turtlenecks are evergreen. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>is we're not out here trying to cuff two half babies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But for animals, they only care about one thing when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to mating, and that's offspring. Reproducing means surviving.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about them babies.

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<v Speaker 2>And the partner and animal chooses to couple up and

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<v Speaker 2>have offspring with is crucial. So Alex is going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to us about how animals make that choice.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they looking for?

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<v Speaker 1>She says, it starts with environmental cues. A change in

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature is usually the first signal to an animal

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<v Speaker 1>that is time to start looking for a partner.

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<v Speaker 7>Ai Monogami is going to be somewhat ceasonal right, because

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<v Speaker 7>they're going to be looking for the time. What they're

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<v Speaker 7>looking for is the time where gestation's over and then

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<v Speaker 7>the best season.

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<v Speaker 9>At which there are spring is going to be able

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<v Speaker 9>to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>Colder weather means less food.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea there is mate in the winter and

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<v Speaker 2>then when you have your babies in the spring, there's

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<v Speaker 2>more resources.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they start looking for the right partner to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, copulate with.

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<v Speaker 7>It really depends on the species, and it depends on

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<v Speaker 7>the ecology of the species. What are the strategies that

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<v Speaker 7>they're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>Ecology that means the animal's environment, and more specifically is

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of resources like food that's available in that environment.

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<v Speaker 7>In general, animals are looking for food, right, So females

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<v Speaker 7>are looking for food. If those resources are clumped, there's

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<v Speaker 7>lots of food in one single place, in one single patch,

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<v Speaker 7>lots of females are gonna come to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Alex says, it also refers to where those

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<v Speaker 1>resources are.

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<v Speaker 7>Those resources can be uniformly distributed in a space or

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<v Speaker 7>they can be clumped.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>If resources are clumped, then it's more probable for a

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<v Speaker 7>female or several females to be in one single place.

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<v Speaker 2>That means before it gets cold, an animal wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go somewhere with a lot of resources because that's where

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to find the white selection.

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<v Speaker 3>Of potential partners.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically this kind of translates to like the free

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<v Speaker 2>drinks or early drinks for women at the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so then when there's free drinks at the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>then all women run to the bar to go get

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<v Speaker 1>those drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the men pay so they can come and have

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<v Speaker 2>access to those women.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bar culture, like it can get really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that time we went to a bar

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy sent me a drink and then never

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<v Speaker 1>came over to say hi, never said a word. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really confused, like thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess hey, So you never a durable strategy for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but free drinks for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get back to the animals for a second. Are

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<v Speaker 2>there any other species that replicate cuffing season?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like, are there animals out there that are keeping

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<v Speaker 1>a mate for the fall and winter season and then

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<v Speaker 1>just leaving them? That's cold hearted? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So one really cool example is red foxes. So red

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<v Speaker 7>fox are, for example, a species that starts their pairing

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<v Speaker 7>during the fall, and once they pair up around the

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<v Speaker 7>end of the fall December, the beginning of winter, they

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<v Speaker 7>pair up with a male and then they stay with

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<v Speaker 7>that male through how the winter season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and in general, a female will date several males

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<v Speaker 1>until she finds her wintertime companion.

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<v Speaker 7>The female tends to go into a den and the

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<v Speaker 7>male stays outside of the den and feeds her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much how Jimmy cuffed me.

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<v Speaker 3>He still bring in us treats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he got me some slim gems this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when the winter's over, the two foxes go their

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<v Speaker 2>separate ways and the female goes through the same process again.

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<v Speaker 2>So the male red fox next winter might be the

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<v Speaker 2>step dad.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a Moury episode waiting to happen. You

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<v Speaker 1>are not the father, but you still need to feed

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<v Speaker 1>these babies.

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<v Speaker 2>The resources are clumped, all your potential partners are here.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the animals just pick one mate?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good question. Some animals are monogamous

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just looking for lifelong partner.

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<v Speaker 7>There are lifelong monogamous species, right, so and those there's

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<v Speaker 7>a very cool examples. Right, So there's beavers and they yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>when they made they made for life.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, there is.

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<v Speaker 7>Eagles then tend to make for life. Swans tend to

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<v Speaker 7>make for life.

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<v Speaker 2>Different species have all kinds of reasons for being monogamous.

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<v Speaker 2>For birds is just because it makes it easier to

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<v Speaker 2>raise the babies and teach them to fly. For other

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<v Speaker 2>species is genetic.

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<v Speaker 9>So for example, in the case of prairie bowls, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>A prairie bowl like those field rodents, seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 7>of them are monogamous, and that really depends on their

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<v Speaker 7>basuppressing receptors.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically their vessel what vasa pressing. It's a hormone that

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<v Speaker 1>the brain releases and it promotes this like sensation.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a reward. Gotcha, Like an anniversary. Good yeah, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>still together, same partner, another year reward.

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<v Speaker 7>When they copulate with the same female several times, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a positive feedback and therefore they will continue to be monogamous.

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<v Speaker 1>But if a male is in an environment where all

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<v Speaker 1>the resources are clumped, like all those girls at the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>he might be polygamous.

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<v Speaker 2>And get this, there are two types of polygamy. One

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<v Speaker 2>for males and one for females.

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<v Speaker 9>Polygamy is the umbrella.

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<v Speaker 7>And within polygamy, you have one male with lots of

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<v Speaker 7>females that's a polygynous male, and then you have one

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<v Speaker 7>female with lots of males that's a polyandric female.

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<v Speaker 1>So polygyny is a man with a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 1>and polyandry is a woman with a lot of men.

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<v Speaker 3>That's you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you, not me. I'm married girl. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was me.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can be monogamous or polygynists or polyandrous. It

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<v Speaker 2>all depends on what increases your chances of reproductive success.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, I'm starting to see the connections. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really interesting. When we get back, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about strategy. What can we learn from our

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<v Speaker 1>animal friends to help us the next time coming season

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<v Speaker 1>comes around.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're back and it's time to talk strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>We love talking to the people about some of their

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<v Speaker 1>cuffing seasons does and don'ts, So let's hear what they

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<v Speaker 1>have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>First, what's your advice for somebody that's trying to cuff

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<v Speaker 2>someone this cuffing season?

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<v Speaker 9>Get rid of social media. That's a distraction.

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<v Speaker 6>Just focus and just make sure yourself is right first

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<v Speaker 6>before you offer yourself to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 10>It's all about communication, you know what I'm saying. It's

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<v Speaker 10>all about communication. So if somebody feel in a certain

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<v Speaker 10>type of way, they need to say that, so it

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<v Speaker 10>can be either embraced or it can be shut down,

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<v Speaker 10>and then it's all good, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we just make a cuff rule? Yeah, no ghosting,

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<v Speaker 3>no sting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's leave ghosting in twenty seventeen, in twenty eighteen too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's totally gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Alex, give it to me straight. Once these animals

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<v Speaker 2>pick the one they want to cuff, how do they

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<v Speaker 2>seal the deal? What's their strategy?

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<v Speaker 7>So you can either fight for a female or you

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<v Speaker 7>can directly attract her.

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<v Speaker 2>To do both of those things, fight or a tract,

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<v Speaker 2>you need strong secondary sexual characters. So those are the

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<v Speaker 2>features that help attract a partner, but that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>actually need to reproduce, because, like we said before, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us are just looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>A friend, not a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So are some examples of secondary characters like feathers on

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<v Speaker 1>a peacock or antlers on a.

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<v Speaker 2>Deer exactly, and secondary characters for humans could be something

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<v Speaker 2>like nice shoes or a nice car.

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<v Speaker 1>A fresh lineup, a deep voice. Ooh, that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>mating call.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I work with a species of frog that

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<v Speaker 7>has a very very clear, strong distinctive call to attract females.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we hear that? Can you play something for us?

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<v Speaker 2>It basically translates to what a party? Yet that's not

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<v Speaker 2>kinda sound like ring my bell to you? You know

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<v Speaker 2>that part?

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<v Speaker 1>They're like boom boom, and that's my hey, come on

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<v Speaker 1>sing a girl and full of possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>It's co fi season.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondary sexual characters, the feathers, the big fluffy tail, the

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<v Speaker 1>mating call are key to attracting your mate, but they

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<v Speaker 1>can also create a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, plot twist.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem is that attraction to females come up with

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<v Speaker 7>a cost. The cat also attracting predators and parasites.

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<v Speaker 1>So while you might be attracting the right potential mates,

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<v Speaker 1>you're also attracting a lot of trash, including the type

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<v Speaker 1>of trash you don't want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Like ever again, this is something I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>as humans can really relate to. Have you ever attracted

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<v Speaker 2>an unwanted parasite?

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<v Speaker 1>I want on a date with a man that ordered

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<v Speaker 1>dessert for himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>He ate it all then proceeded to lick the plate.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost screamed out loud. I was mortified, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, there is no way I can go on

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<v Speaker 1>another day with this man. And he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you had a good time. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>being nice. Yeah I did. He was like, ye'all, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>text you and we can go out again. And in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind I just keep seeing him licking this plate,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get all of the caramel and chocolates off

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and I almost vomited. Do you remember when

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<v Speaker 1>I called you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you were like, oh my gosh, I'm just I

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to go home and he's eating this

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<v Speaker 2>whole day.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you said he was looking at you over his.

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes were over the little dessert plate and he looked

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<v Speaker 2>at you as he licked the plate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't you're looking the glaze off the plate. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anything to do with you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>get me out of here. Yeah, you really got to

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<v Speaker 1>weed out the plate liquors. But what if you change

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<v Speaker 1>your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what if you do all that work only to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that you really chose the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the beauty of cuffing season right, you

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<v Speaker 1>hang in through the winter and release them back into

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<v Speaker 1>the wild. And from monogamous species where mating isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal it's for life, they have a way of working

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<v Speaker 1>around that too.

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<v Speaker 7>So here's the thing that is cool, though, is that

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<v Speaker 7>even in those species that mate for life, right, there's

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<v Speaker 7>still a possibility for EPCs. EPCs are extra pair copulations right,

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<v Speaker 7>situations where you are meeting with one individual or you

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<v Speaker 7>are monogamous because you're in a relationship or in a

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<v Speaker 7>bond with that other pair, but you can still sexually

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<v Speaker 7>or basically copulate with other individuals outside of your pair.

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<v Speaker 2>So like an animal can be monogamous but not really.

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<v Speaker 2>And is it mostly males that do this? Or can

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<v Speaker 2>females engage in EPCs too?

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<v Speaker 7>So there is a lot of thought about why this

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<v Speaker 7>happens on females like on males.

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<v Speaker 9>It kind of makes.

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<v Speaker 7>Sense supposedly because it has to do with the quantity

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<v Speaker 7>of offspring you can have. Right, So a male has

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of sperm, right, It produces a lot of sperm,

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<v Speaker 7>and therefore it has the ability to sire a large

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<v Speaker 7>number of offspring.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>In general, that's what happens with most males. Females have eggs, right,

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<v Speaker 7>and those are costly. They're finite. There's only a number

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<v Speaker 7>of them that you can actually use, and so females

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<v Speaker 7>tend to be more careful with their eggs because they

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<v Speaker 7>can't just have tons of them every single one of

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<v Speaker 7>their offspring.

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<v Speaker 9>What they're thinking about is a quality of that offspring.

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<v Speaker 7>So for a long time there was a controversy like

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<v Speaker 7>why did that females do this? The thing about it

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<v Speaker 7>is that females might do this because by copulating with males,

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<v Speaker 7>they might be able to choose those males that are

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<v Speaker 7>higher quality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that even animals have their own weeding out process, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>even if a mate has all of the secondary characters

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<v Speaker 2>out there, you still have to make some decision about

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<v Speaker 2>which of those secondary characters it's most important to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of when we were out on the

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<v Speaker 1>street talking to those strangers and we ran into that

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<v Speaker 1>random group.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember, Yeah, they were a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we talked to them about cuffing season and

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<v Speaker 1>what was that One girl's instagram name Sophia Loren, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was telling us about her strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>What should I be looking for? Like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>sign of a good cuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So you need to have one that's definitely gonna always

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<v Speaker 5>come with the food, always offer meals, baby with you

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm trying to get something to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, then you need an activity one.

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<v Speaker 5>So you need one who always know like, oh we

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<v Speaker 5>about to go ice skaning, be about to go to MGN,

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<v Speaker 5>we about to go gambling, like he just always got

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<v Speaker 5>something that he want to do. Then you need a

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<v Speaker 5>partner that's gonna hit you with the like can I

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<v Speaker 5>help you? You know? Can can I get the car clean?

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<v Speaker 5>Can put the gas in the car? Like he just

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<v Speaker 5>he just kind of right, you know, like something happened

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<v Speaker 5>to the door. You need to get the doorbell fixed,

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<v Speaker 5>like you just clean up whatever. Right. And then because

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<v Speaker 5>we are really coming into that time where that's where

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth one come in. You're coming into that time

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<v Speaker 5>where you gotta go to like holiday parties, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Need a presentable one.

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<v Speaker 2>He ady, but he just gotta drop properly if presentable,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can bring him along. So it's like three

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<v Speaker 2>of them are like providing resources like the bring your activity,

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<v Speaker 2>but the one you might be coming for you is

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<v Speaker 2>like the peacock is like he don't really gotta say

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<v Speaker 2>too much, but when he brings out those feathers, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that your boot right?

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<v Speaker 1>And because keep anyone that you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Once to get down to.

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<v Speaker 2>The line, sophil Leren really had it figured out. She

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<v Speaker 2>and her friends called that the hotation approach, where they

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<v Speaker 2>have sort of a rotating roster until it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>cuff one down. So it's almost like having sister wives.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess for them, what would the equivalent of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Brother Bays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, brother Bayse who is on your lineup of brother Bays.

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree with her that I need somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>will bring me food that is very important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I also need someone who knows stuff about cars,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically because my car is borderline a hoopde at this

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<v Speaker 1>point and I don't want to take it to the

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<v Speaker 1>shop anymore. I want you to tell me, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>just need an oil change so I can save some money.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think I would need one that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the finest one of the bunch, because he's the one

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be cuddling with and spending my evenings. Oh nice,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you? Who are your brother base?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would definitely want the food boo, but

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<v Speaker 2>I need like a.

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<v Speaker 3>A My food boo is gonna have to be different.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for a food boo who wants to like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hit all the Michelin star restaurants like I want.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not about to eat these chicken tenders, no I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not sleep on chicken tenders. Chicken tenders are good,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Clutch Snack, Philly Wing Fro just opened it

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Foods on Fourteenth Street, let's go like I want

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. I also need like, uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>hang out just at the house and watch all the

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<v Speaker 1>horror movies and cackle it all the stuff on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna send you this article even though you're

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<v Speaker 1>right beside me, because I want you to read it

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<v Speaker 1>and see how trash it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's play a game.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what's important to us for our brother base,

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<v Speaker 2>but we want to hear from you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Check us out on Instagram and we have a brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Bay light and on there is a form where you

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<v Speaker 2>can just screencap it and fill in your brother base.

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<v Speaker 1>So once you fill out your brother Bay roster form,

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<v Speaker 1>tag us at Dope Laps Podcasts and post it to

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<v Speaker 1>your Instagram and we'll share it on ours.

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<v Speaker 3>What a whirlwind.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like we learned a lot in the dissection.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex taught us that cuffing season is nothing new, is

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<v Speaker 2>not unique to humans.

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<v Speaker 1>Now every species is pretty much cuffing, just in different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and so some is seasonal, some.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like resource driven. Sometimes it's for a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you love somebody for a lifetime?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with the right Red Foxes ringing me treats outside

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<v Speaker 2>the Cave.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think of every time I hear

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<v Speaker 1>red Fox. It's not the name of the guy from Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Sanford and Sanford and Son.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm coming Elizabeth. That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like even with all of that variation, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>humans are in some way like a capsule of all

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<v Speaker 2>the differences in these like all the approaches we see,

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<v Speaker 2>I could liken each of those approaches to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right, it's like out in the Wow that

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<v Speaker 1>it's way more simple for them to cuff than it

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<v Speaker 1>is for humans. Because we've got all these factors rolled

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<v Speaker 1>up into one. It's it's just a lot to consider

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<v Speaker 1>when when you're out there either trying to be cuffed

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<v Speaker 1>or trying to cuff someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't have to consider it anymore. You're married,

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't have to consider it, but me.

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<v Speaker 1>You we a unit. I'm considering it for on your

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<v Speaker 1>behalf because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here on behalf of Zekiyah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're in this cuffing season together.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as I don't show up to my cave

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<v Speaker 2>and someone is there saying T T sent.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, what would be wrong with that? I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to set you up with a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice young gentleman. Excellent challenge you perfect, That's all I need.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking for that gateway. Everybody's sliding into

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<v Speaker 1>the key as dms include a picture not of your genitalia.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, No of your secondary care if your second primary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So that's it. This is dope, laughs. This is

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<v Speaker 1>who we are, This is what we do. Did y'all

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<v Speaker 1>like it?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think? Give us some feedback. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>We had so much fun making this pilot episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>we really hope that you guys come back to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to more of our shenanigans. So this season we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into a lot of things the kid what like,

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<v Speaker 1>tell them some of the stuff we're getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to talk to you about these men out

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<v Speaker 2>here with these hair pieces edge of Snatch. We're digging

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<v Speaker 2>really deep into that. We're also going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you about makeup on fleek. Everybody's into fenty beauty, but

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<v Speaker 2>do you know about those nanoparticles? Listen that makeup? What's

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<v Speaker 2>giving you that glow. We're also gonna talk about bad blood.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Big bone?

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<v Speaker 7>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend that's big boned, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Plot twist is me, So we're gonna really jump in

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<v Speaker 3>Shidia and Zakiah Wattley.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoop poop, Oh my gosh, I think somebody is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cuff me. I'm for real, somebody is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cuff me. Good morning, dew Drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Has anybody called you a dow drop? What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like honeydew?

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<v Speaker 3>M I hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>What What did you just say?

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<v Speaker 3>You misspoke? Everybody knows how they do. Is a champion?

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<v Speaker 3>Fruit canalope out of here? Honeydew definitely in.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the same thing, essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's not right.