Speaker 1: It's a bye week this week, which means there isn't
Speaker 1: a new episode of Dope Labs, but we are really
Speaker 1: excited to reshare one of our very favorite episodes.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's three years later, but not too much has changed.
Speaker 2: Our Cuffing season schedule is the same, so we're right
Speaker 2: in the draft of Cuffing season.
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Speaker 2: Wondering what we're talking about when we say cuffing season.
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Speaker 1: Today, we're talking about cuffing season, and so let's figure
Speaker 1: out what we already know about it and what we
Speaker 1: want to know more about And who knows better than
Speaker 1: y'all the people on the front lines of cuffing season.
Speaker 1: Let's hear what you have to say.
Speaker 3: Do either of you know what cuffing season is? I
Speaker 3: don't no idea?
Speaker 1: Is that? Where do you start cuffing your paths around
Speaker 1: fall time?
Speaker 6: What's cuffing season?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's hard to explain. It's like when you got a
Speaker 6: mutual thing with somebody and you're ready to stop seeing
Speaker 6: other people, then you take that leap.
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think it's the phenomenon that the
Speaker 8: colder months are coming. You don't want to endure those
Speaker 8: by yourself. Something from my very distant past before I
Speaker 8: met my current wife, winter hibernation.
Speaker 3: You date people over the winter. Yes, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3: So you guys are locked in, Yeah, and we have handcuffs?
Speaker 5: Whoah?
Speaker 1: Are you all ready for cuffing season?
Speaker 4: Ah? I am not ready for cuffing season. I'm taking applications.
Speaker 4: My dms are open.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to be a kuffer or a cuffee,
Speaker 1: you want somebody to come get you. You're trying to
Speaker 1: be out here.
Speaker 4: So like, I'm a strong, independent black woman.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, all.
Speaker 4: These men, everybody around what happened, But like I would
Speaker 4: want the cuffin to be mutual, Like we both come
Speaker 4: to a place like damn, I really violece with you heavy,
Speaker 4: Like Damn, I think I might love you now we're cuffed.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was my first time talking to strangers
Speaker 1: not mine.
Speaker 2: We know cuffing season has become pretty mainstream since it
Speaker 2: started trending on Twitter about a decade ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some mainstream. Now even white folks know about it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: But for those of you who are still living under
Speaker 2: a rock and you're still unclear about what we're talking about,
Speaker 2: here's the breakdown. It's the time of year when single
Speaker 2: people start to look for a partner to be their
Speaker 2: boo until the weather gets warm, my boo hoo. That
Speaker 2: falsetto This is definitely not a long term thing. It
Speaker 2: is a short term situation for people who don't like
Speaker 2: to go out and be social during the wintertime, and
Speaker 2: when it warms up, you release that cuff back into
Speaker 2: the wild. And people take this seriously. Google cuffing season
Speaker 2: right now, you're gonna come across contracts calendars with all
Speaker 2: these deadlines.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at one of these calendars right now, and
Speaker 1: it's like a day to day breakdown of what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. It is crazy. Flirt Week starts
Speaker 1: in September, the first week of September, and then you
Speaker 1: have to start sending good morning texts at the end
Speaker 1: of September. Then the good morning texts continue through October.
Speaker 1: The first week of October, and then the last three
Speaker 1: weeks of October, you're supposed to be sealing the deal.
Speaker 1: So after that you're with that person throughout the winner
Speaker 1: and you stay cuffed with that person until today Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: So there's a science to cuffing season, but there's also
Speaker 1: actual science behind it.
Speaker 2: Cuffing season draws elements of so many different sciences psychology, biology, chemistry.
Speaker 1: Genetics, and if we can understand some of the science
Speaker 1: behind cuffing season, maybe it'll help us strategize.
Speaker 2: Write Zakiah, that's right, full disclaimer. Okay, I see where
Speaker 2: you're going.
Speaker 3: So this past cuff and season, I was all in.
Speaker 3: I was gung ho.
Speaker 2: I said, yes, I'm going to fully participate. I'm out here,
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, all right, I'm I'm looking
Speaker 2: for a cuff, but nothing too too serious. I know
Speaker 2: you think I have a commitment problem, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean she has a commitment problem.
Speaker 2: I could go with a six month contract, you know,
Speaker 2: and based on performance and option to renew.
Speaker 1: That's like a cell phone plan.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions about what's actually going on, Like,
Speaker 1: is this something that is innate within all of us?
Speaker 1: Have we always been cuffing like we're Adam and Eve cuffing?
Speaker 2: Hey, apples are a fall fruit? Do animals have a
Speaker 2: cuffing season? Does it fit the same schedule or calendar
Speaker 2: year like we have.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I think we should call in
Speaker 1: some reinforcements.
Speaker 3: It's time for the dissection.
Speaker 1: We evenen listed our good friend, doctor Alex Tria t
Speaker 1: helps Akia figure out what she's been doing wrong.
Speaker 3: I haven't been doing anything wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's that was unfair, But there's always room
Speaker 1: for growth.
Speaker 3: I'll take it.
Speaker 7: Hi, my name is Alex Trio and I'm a behavioral
Speaker 7: a cologist.
Speaker 1: I'd get it for College, Alex studies a sexual selection
Speaker 1: and mating behaviors of beetles and other species.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking more along the lines of Prince Charming, not
Speaker 2: beetled you. But I guess if you think about it, humans,
Speaker 2: we're just animals, these bingernails, soft claws.
Speaker 1: That being said, things have changed a lot since Kman days, right.
Speaker 3: Girl, Things have changed since the sixties.
Speaker 1: Really, if we're being honest, since the nineties.
Speaker 3: Except turtlenecks. Turtlenecks are still in.
Speaker 1: That is very true. Turtlenecks are evergreen. But the point
Speaker 1: is we're not out here trying to cuff two half babies.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: But for animals, they only care about one thing when
Speaker 1: it comes to mating, and that's offspring. Reproducing means surviving.
Speaker 1: It's all about them babies.
Speaker 2: And the partner and animal chooses to couple up and
Speaker 2: have offspring with is crucial. So Alex is going to
Speaker 2: talk to us about how animals make that choice.
Speaker 3: What are they looking for?
Speaker 1: She says, it starts with environmental cues. A change in
Speaker 1: the temperature is usually the first signal to an animal
Speaker 1: that is time to start looking for a partner.
Speaker 7: Ai Monogami is going to be somewhat ceasonal right, because
Speaker 7: they're going to be looking for the time. What they're
Speaker 7: looking for is the time where gestation's over and then
Speaker 7: the best season.
Speaker 9: At which there are spring is going to be able
Speaker 9: to survive.
Speaker 3: Colder weather means less food.
Speaker 2: So the idea there is mate in the winter and
Speaker 2: then when you have your babies in the spring, there's
Speaker 2: more resources.
Speaker 1: How do they start looking for the right partner to
Speaker 1: you know, copulate with.
Speaker 7: It really depends on the species, and it depends on
Speaker 7: the ecology of the species. What are the strategies that
Speaker 7: they're gonna have.
Speaker 2: Ecology that means the animal's environment, and more specifically is
Speaker 2: the amount of resources like food that's available in that environment.
Speaker 7: In general, animals are looking for food, right, So females
Speaker 7: are looking for food. If those resources are clumped, there's
Speaker 7: lots of food in one single place, in one single patch,
Speaker 7: lots of females are gonna come to it.
Speaker 1: And as Alex says, it also refers to where those
Speaker 1: resources are.
Speaker 7: Those resources can be uniformly distributed in a space or
Speaker 7: they can be clumped.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: If resources are clumped, then it's more probable for a
Speaker 7: female or several females to be in one single place.
Speaker 2: That means before it gets cold, an animal wants to
Speaker 2: go somewhere with a lot of resources because that's where
Speaker 2: they're going to find the white selection.
Speaker 3: Of potential partners.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So basically this kind of translates to like the free
Speaker 2: drinks or early drinks for women at the bar.
Speaker 1: Right, And so then when there's free drinks at the bar,
Speaker 1: then all women run to the bar to go get
Speaker 1: those drinks.
Speaker 2: Then the men pay so they can come and have
Speaker 2: access to those women.
Speaker 1: But the bar culture, like it can get really weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that time we went to a bar
Speaker 1: and a guy sent me a drink and then never
Speaker 1: came over to say hi, never said a word. I
Speaker 1: was really confused, like thank you?
Speaker 2: I guess hey, So you never a durable strategy for him,
Speaker 2: but free drinks for us.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the animals for a second. Are
Speaker 2: there any other species that replicate cuffing season?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, are there animals out there that are keeping
Speaker 1: a mate for the fall and winter season and then
Speaker 1: just leaving them? That's cold hearted? Yeah.
Speaker 7: So one really cool example is red foxes. So red
Speaker 7: fox are, for example, a species that starts their pairing
Speaker 7: during the fall, and once they pair up around the
Speaker 7: end of the fall December, the beginning of winter, they
Speaker 7: pair up with a male and then they stay with
Speaker 7: that male through how the winter season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in general, a female will date several males
Speaker 1: until she finds her wintertime companion.
Speaker 7: The female tends to go into a den and the
Speaker 7: male stays outside of the den and feeds her.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much how Jimmy cuffed me.
Speaker 3: He still bring in us treats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got me some slim gems this morning.
Speaker 2: Then when the winter's over, the two foxes go their
Speaker 2: separate ways and the female goes through the same process again.
Speaker 2: So the male red fox next winter might be the
Speaker 2: step dad.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a Moury episode waiting to happen. You
Speaker 1: are not the father, but you still need to feed
Speaker 1: these babies.
Speaker 2: The resources are clumped, all your potential partners are here.
Speaker 2: Do the animals just pick one mate?
Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. Some animals are monogamous
Speaker 1: and they're just looking for lifelong partner.
Speaker 7: There are lifelong monogamous species, right, so and those there's
Speaker 7: a very cool examples. Right, So there's beavers and they yeah,
Speaker 7: when they made they made for life.
Speaker 9: Right, there is.
Speaker 7: Eagles then tend to make for life. Swans tend to
Speaker 7: make for life.
Speaker 2: Different species have all kinds of reasons for being monogamous.
Speaker 2: For birds is just because it makes it easier to
Speaker 2: raise the babies and teach them to fly. For other
Speaker 2: species is genetic.
Speaker 9: So for example, in the case of prairie bowls, it was.
Speaker 7: A prairie bowl like those field rodents, seventy five percent
Speaker 7: of them are monogamous, and that really depends on their
Speaker 7: basuppressing receptors.
Speaker 1: Basically their vessel what vasa pressing. It's a hormone that
Speaker 1: the brain releases and it promotes this like sensation.
Speaker 2: Of a reward. Gotcha, Like an anniversary. Good yeah, y'all
Speaker 2: still together, same partner, another year reward.
Speaker 7: When they copulate with the same female several times, it's
Speaker 7: a positive feedback and therefore they will continue to be monogamous.
Speaker 1: But if a male is in an environment where all
Speaker 1: the resources are clumped, like all those girls at the bar,
Speaker 1: he might be polygamous.
Speaker 2: And get this, there are two types of polygamy. One
Speaker 2: for males and one for females.
Speaker 9: Polygamy is the umbrella.
Speaker 7: And within polygamy, you have one male with lots of
Speaker 7: females that's a polygynous male, and then you have one
Speaker 7: female with lots of males that's a polyandric female.
Speaker 1: So polygyny is a man with a lot of women,
Speaker 1: and polyandry is a woman with a lot of men.
Speaker 3: That's you.
Speaker 1: That's you, not me. I'm married girl. Hmmm.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 2: So you can be monogamous or polygynists or polyandrous. It
Speaker 2: all depends on what increases your chances of reproductive success.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm starting to see the connections. Now,
Speaker 1: this is really interesting. When we get back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk more about strategy. What can we learn from our
Speaker 1: animal friends to help us the next time coming season
Speaker 1: comes around.
Speaker 3: And we're back and it's time to talk strategy.
Speaker 1: We love talking to the people about some of their
Speaker 1: cuffing seasons does and don'ts, So let's hear what they
Speaker 1: have to say.
Speaker 2: First, what's your advice for somebody that's trying to cuff
Speaker 2: someone this cuffing season?
Speaker 9: Get rid of social media. That's a distraction.
Speaker 6: Just focus and just make sure yourself is right first
Speaker 6: before you offer yourself to somebody else.
Speaker 10: It's all about communication, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 10: all about communication. So if somebody feel in a certain
Speaker 10: type of way, they need to say that, so it
Speaker 10: can be either embraced or it can be shut down,
Speaker 10: and then it's all good, you know.
Speaker 3: Can we just make a cuff rule? Yeah, no ghosting,
Speaker 3: no sting.
Speaker 2: Let's leave ghosting in twenty seventeen, in twenty eighteen too.
Speaker 3: It's totally gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, Alex, give it to me straight. Once these animals
Speaker 2: pick the one they want to cuff, how do they
Speaker 2: seal the deal? What's their strategy?
Speaker 7: So you can either fight for a female or you
Speaker 7: can directly attract her.
Speaker 2: To do both of those things, fight or a tract,
Speaker 2: you need strong secondary sexual characters. So those are the
Speaker 2: features that help attract a partner, but that you don't
Speaker 2: actually need to reproduce, because, like we said before, a
Speaker 2: lot of us are just looking for.
Speaker 3: A friend, not a baby.
Speaker 1: So are some examples of secondary characters like feathers on
Speaker 1: a peacock or antlers on a.
Speaker 2: Deer exactly, and secondary characters for humans could be something
Speaker 2: like nice shoes or a nice car.
Speaker 1: A fresh lineup, a deep voice. Ooh, that's like a
Speaker 1: mating call.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I work with a species of frog that
Speaker 7: has a very very clear, strong distinctive call to attract females.
Speaker 1: Can we hear that? Can you play something for us?
Speaker 2: It basically translates to what a party? Yet that's not
Speaker 2: kinda sound like ring my bell to you? You know
Speaker 2: that part?
Speaker 1: They're like boom boom, and that's my hey, come on
Speaker 1: sing a girl and full of possibility.
Speaker 3: It's co fi season.
Speaker 1: Secondary sexual characters, the feathers, the big fluffy tail, the
Speaker 1: mating call are key to attracting your mate, but they
Speaker 1: can also create a problem.
Speaker 3: Oh, plot twist.
Speaker 7: The problem is that attraction to females come up with
Speaker 7: a cost. The cat also attracting predators and parasites.
Speaker 1: So while you might be attracting the right potential mates,
Speaker 1: you're also attracting a lot of trash, including the type
Speaker 1: of trash you don't want to see.
Speaker 2: Like ever again, this is something I feel like we
Speaker 2: as humans can really relate to. Have you ever attracted
Speaker 2: an unwanted parasite?
Speaker 1: I want on a date with a man that ordered
Speaker 1: dessert for himself.
Speaker 3: Oh I remember this.
Speaker 1: He ate it all then proceeded to lick the plate.
Speaker 1: I almost screamed out loud. I was mortified, and I
Speaker 1: was like, there is no way I can go on
Speaker 1: another day with this man. And he was like, I
Speaker 1: hope you had a good time. You know, I was
Speaker 1: being nice. Yeah I did. He was like, ye'all, I'll
Speaker 1: text you and we can go out again. And in
Speaker 1: my mind I just keep seeing him licking this plate,
Speaker 1: trying to get all of the caramel and chocolates off
Speaker 1: of it, and I almost vomited. Do you remember when
Speaker 1: I called you?
Speaker 2: Yes, you were like, oh my gosh, I'm just I
Speaker 2: was just trying to go home and he's eating this
Speaker 2: whole day.
Speaker 3: And then you said he was looking at you over his.
Speaker 2: Eyes were over the little dessert plate and he looked
Speaker 2: at you as he licked the plate.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: I can't you're looking the glaze off the plate. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with you. I was like,
Speaker 1: get me out of here. Yeah, you really got to
Speaker 1: weed out the plate liquors. But what if you change
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 2: Like what if you do all that work only to
Speaker 2: realize that you really chose the wrong one.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the beauty of cuffing season right, you
Speaker 1: hang in through the winter and release them back into
Speaker 1: the wild. And from monogamous species where mating isn't really
Speaker 1: seasonal it's for life, they have a way of working
Speaker 1: around that too.
Speaker 7: So here's the thing that is cool, though, is that
Speaker 7: even in those species that mate for life, right, there's
Speaker 7: still a possibility for EPCs. EPCs are extra pair copulations right,
Speaker 7: situations where you are meeting with one individual or you
Speaker 7: are monogamous because you're in a relationship or in a
Speaker 7: bond with that other pair, but you can still sexually
Speaker 7: or basically copulate with other individuals outside of your pair.
Speaker 2: So like an animal can be monogamous but not really.
Speaker 2: And is it mostly males that do this? Or can
Speaker 2: females engage in EPCs too?
Speaker 7: So there is a lot of thought about why this
Speaker 7: happens on females like on males.
Speaker 9: It kind of makes.
Speaker 7: Sense supposedly because it has to do with the quantity
Speaker 7: of offspring you can have. Right, So a male has
Speaker 7: a lot of sperm, right, It produces a lot of sperm,
Speaker 7: and therefore it has the ability to sire a large
Speaker 7: number of offspring.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: In general, that's what happens with most males. Females have eggs, right,
Speaker 7: and those are costly. They're finite. There's only a number
Speaker 7: of them that you can actually use, and so females
Speaker 7: tend to be more careful with their eggs because they
Speaker 7: can't just have tons of them every single one of
Speaker 7: their offspring.
Speaker 9: What they're thinking about is a quality of that offspring.
Speaker 7: So for a long time there was a controversy like
Speaker 7: why did that females do this? The thing about it
Speaker 7: is that females might do this because by copulating with males,
Speaker 7: they might be able to choose those males that are
Speaker 7: higher quality.
Speaker 2: It's funny that even animals have their own weeding out process, Like,
Speaker 2: even if a mate has all of the secondary characters
Speaker 2: out there, you still have to make some decision about
Speaker 2: which of those secondary characters it's most important to you.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of when we were out on the
Speaker 1: street talking to those strangers and we ran into that
Speaker 1: random group.
Speaker 3: Do you remember, Yeah, they were a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we talked to them about cuffing season and
Speaker 1: what was that One girl's instagram name Sophia Loren, right,
Speaker 1: and she was telling us about her strategy.
Speaker 2: What should I be looking for? Like this is a
Speaker 2: sign of a good cuff.
Speaker 5: So you need to have one that's definitely gonna always
Speaker 5: come with the food, always offer meals, baby with you
Speaker 5: and I'm trying to get something to eat.
Speaker 1: Like, then you need an activity one.
Speaker 5: So you need one who always know like, oh we
Speaker 5: about to go ice skaning, be about to go to MGN,
Speaker 5: we about to go gambling, like he just always got
Speaker 5: something that he want to do. Then you need a
Speaker 5: partner that's gonna hit you with the like can I
Speaker 5: help you? You know? Can can I get the car clean?
Speaker 5: Can put the gas in the car? Like he just
Speaker 5: he just kind of right, you know, like something happened
Speaker 5: to the door. You need to get the doorbell fixed,
Speaker 5: like you just clean up whatever. Right. And then because
Speaker 5: we are really coming into that time where that's where
Speaker 5: the fourth one come in. You're coming into that time
Speaker 5: where you gotta go to like holiday parties, you.
Speaker 1: Need a presentable one.
Speaker 2: He ady, but he just gotta drop properly if presentable,
Speaker 2: so you can bring him along. So it's like three
Speaker 2: of them are like providing resources like the bring your activity,
Speaker 2: but the one you might be coming for you is
Speaker 2: like the peacock is like he don't really gotta say
Speaker 2: too much, but when he brings out those feathers, you're like,
Speaker 2: is that your boot right?
Speaker 1: And because keep anyone that you want.
Speaker 3: Once to get down to.
Speaker 2: The line, sophil Leren really had it figured out. She
Speaker 2: and her friends called that the hotation approach, where they
Speaker 2: have sort of a rotating roster until it's time to
Speaker 2: cuff one down. So it's almost like having sister wives.
Speaker 2: But I guess for them, what would the equivalent of that.
Speaker 1: Be Brother Bays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, brother Bayse who is on your lineup of brother Bays.
Speaker 1: So I agree with her that I need somebody that
Speaker 1: will bring me food that is very important to me.
Speaker 1: I think I also need someone who knows stuff about cars,
Speaker 1: specifically because my car is borderline a hoopde at this
Speaker 1: point and I don't want to take it to the
Speaker 1: shop anymore. I want you to tell me, oh, you
Speaker 1: just need an oil change so I can save some money.
Speaker 1: And then I think I would need one that's like
Speaker 1: the finest one of the bunch, because he's the one
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be cuddling with and spending my evenings. Oh nice,
Speaker 1: what about you? Who are your brother base?
Speaker 2: I think I would definitely want the food boo, but
Speaker 2: I need like a.
Speaker 3: A My food boo is gonna have to be different.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a food boo who wants to like,
Speaker 2: let's hit all the Michelin star restaurants like I want.
Speaker 2: We're not about to eat these chicken tenders, no I want.
Speaker 1: Let's not sleep on chicken tenders. Chicken tenders are good,
Speaker 1: but like Clutch Snack, Philly Wing Fro just opened it
Speaker 1: Whole Foods on Fourteenth Street, let's go like I want
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I also need like, uh, let's
Speaker 1: hang out just at the house and watch all the
Speaker 1: horror movies and cackle it all the stuff on the internet.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna send you this article even though you're
Speaker 1: right beside me, because I want you to read it
Speaker 1: and see how trash it was.
Speaker 3: So let's play a game.
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Speaker 3: What a whirlwind.
Speaker 1: That was so much fun.
Speaker 2: So I feel like we learned a lot in the dissection.
Speaker 2: Alex taught us that cuffing season is nothing new, is
Speaker 2: not unique to humans.
Speaker 1: Now every species is pretty much cuffing, just in different ways,
Speaker 1: and so some is seasonal, some.
Speaker 2: Is like resource driven. Sometimes it's for a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Could you love somebody for a lifetime?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the right Red Foxes ringing me treats outside
Speaker 2: the Cave.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know what I think of every time I hear
Speaker 1: red Fox. It's not the name of the guy from Yep,
Speaker 1: Sanford and Sanford and Son.
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm coming Elizabeth. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: It feels like even with all of that variation, maybe
Speaker 2: humans are in some way like a capsule of all
Speaker 2: the differences in these like all the approaches we see,
Speaker 2: I could liken each of those approaches to somebody.
Speaker 1: I know, right, it's like out in the Wow that
Speaker 1: it's way more simple for them to cuff than it
Speaker 1: is for humans. Because we've got all these factors rolled
Speaker 1: up into one. It's it's just a lot to consider
Speaker 1: when when you're out there either trying to be cuffed
Speaker 1: or trying to cuff someone else.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to consider it anymore. You're married,
Speaker 2: Well I don't have to consider it, but me.
Speaker 1: You we a unit. I'm considering it for on your
Speaker 1: behalf because.
Speaker 3: I'm here on behalf of Zekiyah exactly.
Speaker 1: And so we're in this cuffing season together.
Speaker 2: As long as I don't show up to my cave
Speaker 2: and someone is there saying T T sent.
Speaker 1: Me, what would be wrong with that? I think I
Speaker 1: would be able to set you up with a really
Speaker 1: nice young gentleman. Excellent challenge you perfect, That's all I need.
Speaker 1: I was just looking for that gateway. Everybody's sliding into
Speaker 1: the key as dms include a picture not of your genitalia.
Speaker 2: Please, No of your secondary care if your second primary.
Speaker 1: Yes, So that's it. This is dope, laughs. This is
Speaker 1: who we are, This is what we do. Did y'all
Speaker 1: like it?
Speaker 3: What do you think? Give us some feedback. We want
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Speaker 1: We had so much fun making this pilot episode, and
Speaker 1: we really hope that you guys come back to listen
Speaker 1: to more of our shenanigans. So this season we're going
Speaker 1: to get into a lot of things the kid what like,
Speaker 1: tell them some of the stuff we're getting.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2: We're about to talk to you about these men out
Speaker 2: here with these hair pieces edge of Snatch. We're digging
Speaker 2: really deep into that. We're also going to talk to
Speaker 2: you about makeup on fleek. Everybody's into fenty beauty, but
Speaker 2: do you know about those nanoparticles? Listen that makeup? What's
Speaker 2: giving you that glow. We're also gonna talk about bad blood.
Speaker 2: What does it mean?
Speaker 3: Big bone?
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 1: I have a friend that's big boned, and so we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2: Plot twist is me, So we're gonna really jump in
Speaker 2: talk about all the science you really care about.
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Speaker 2: Whoop poop, Oh my gosh, I think somebody is trying
Speaker 2: to cuff me. I'm for real, somebody is trying to
Speaker 2: cuff me. Good morning, dew Drop.
Speaker 3: Has anybody called you a dow drop? What does it mean?
Speaker 1: Is that like honeydew?
Speaker 3: M I hope not.
Speaker 1: What What did you just say?
Speaker 3: You misspoke? Everybody knows how they do. Is a champion?
Speaker 3: Fruit canalope out of here? Honeydew definitely in.
Speaker 1: They're the same thing, essentially.
Speaker 3: Oh that's not right.