WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Talking NFL Draft With Rashad Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>take it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a show, and Ron will flee if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, since we're on a Wednesday, let's call roll

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<v Speaker 1>right off the top, just to be sure, Ron Wolfley present. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we have that, yours truly, Polly Pencilneck has

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<v Speaker 1>a question, true or false? In your day you frequented

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<v Speaker 1>many a dive bar. You know what that's actually that's

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<v Speaker 1>a rhetorical question. I didn't see that coming. Polly that's

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<v Speaker 1>a rhetorical question. You may have been earhold, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer. Of course you did so with that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. And that said, did you or did you

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<v Speaker 1>not advise J? J. Watt? I mean, were you the

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<v Speaker 1>mastermind of that game plan? Ron Wolfley, the idea man

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<v Speaker 1>behind the three time NFL defensive player that you're mingling

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<v Speaker 1>with the people out and about at a local tavern

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend, throwing down Bruski's and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>schooling the unwashed masses and golden tea No Polly had

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<v Speaker 1>definitely was not me. Um. I made as many enemies

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline, even at home games, as I did

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Paul, you work your way through college

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<v Speaker 1>actually in a dive bar, but that I mean honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>well if you you know, I don't know what your

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<v Speaker 1>major was in, but your miner was in dive bars.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest. Come on, somebody hand me the poole

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<v Speaker 1>cube please. This guy's talking way too much. That's right, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we did our we did our pole. You know what's

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<v Speaker 1>the best dive bar game? And I said, well, there

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<v Speaker 1>are two. Number one is darts, anything anytime you can

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<v Speaker 1>throw something that'll kill a guy that's number one, and

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<v Speaker 1>then pool anytime you can swing something that kills a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's number two. So you know, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>number three is, Polly knuckles. Have you ever heard of knuckles? Polly? Where? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Card game? Yeah, the knuckles said, their card games? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they do, right, The miners would sit around,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd whip these cards at their knuckles, just in little cuts.

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<v Speaker 1>These micro yeah, carry microscopic cots, Polly. They would they

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<v Speaker 1>would callous over and form this hard metallic it was

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<v Speaker 1>called knuckles, Paul. They'd sit there and just throw cards,

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<v Speaker 1>playing cards that eat the other guy's knuckles. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>that bad? Well, I can say this. April nineteenth is

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<v Speaker 1>the official start date for the Arizoner Cardinals offseason strength

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<v Speaker 1>and conditioning program. And I'm guessing, Buddy Morris, you're raining

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Strength Coach of the Year, does not have knuckles

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the regiment five. Polly. If you ask him,

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy will know knuckles. He'll know the game knuckles. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he used his arms. Walk in your out balls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you guys get along. He see's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a Pittsburgh guy. You know, you and you and you

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<v Speaker 1>and buddy, but you find a way, you find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to connect. That's good. That's good. So yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason dates have been finalized, the mini camps and

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<v Speaker 1>OTAs they're upcoming. But first we're gonna have the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft right before these guys are really hitting the field.

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<v Speaker 1>In earnest we are team minus three weeks in one

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<v Speaker 1>day away from the first round of the draft. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>on this addition to the Big Red Rage presented by

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<v Speaker 1>santan Ford in Gilbert, we are santan Ford. How about

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<v Speaker 1>Rashaw Johnson, the former Arison A Cardinal, standout safety and

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<v Speaker 1>current member of the Alabama broadcast crew and that football program,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't talk the draft without talking some of

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<v Speaker 1>Obama top recruits and the SEC as well, Because Wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think of how many mock drafts have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>a playmaker from the SEC going to your Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be great, just the fact we get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Rashad Johnson about that, Paul, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>there are some guys out there. Jordan Davis just comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind immediately, the defensive tackle from Georgia. I don't know, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>if I've ever seen anybody like this. Honestly, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think. Listen. I mean, there's the Jets left tackle

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<v Speaker 1>from two years ago, McKay Beckton, and they call him

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Beckton. Yes, but Mount Beckton ain't running No. Fort

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight. No, he's not running for seven eight, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how fast that is for a man

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<v Speaker 1>that's three hundred and forty one pounds to be running

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<v Speaker 1>a sub forty eight. It's it's like impossible that I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of somebody running a four seven eight that

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<v Speaker 1>weighed three hundred and forty pounds. Yeah. I played with

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<v Speaker 1>some guys, PAULI, that were really, really nimble on their feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Kennard weighed three hundred and forty pounds, but he

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<v Speaker 1>had the butt the size of Jupiter in it. It. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it slowed him down and anchored him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That way. He wouldn't run an O four seven eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But off the ball quickness wise, oh my goodness, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was terrified. And you're a man who survived getting

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<v Speaker 1>slimmed by the fridge, William the refrigerator, Perry, so he

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<v Speaker 1>don't see six three three eighty five. He was quick

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<v Speaker 1>as a cat, but he could only do it for

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<v Speaker 1>one playball. Then he had to go over and suck

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<v Speaker 1>it up a little. So will Jordan Davis or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else being Cardinals rookie mini camp which will be mid May,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course you're gonna have the official OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have the mini camp. And Drew Stanton, longtime

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<v Speaker 1>NFL quarterback, former Cardinals quarterback, was on the re See

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<v Speaker 1>You Report this week and the simple question from Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Greeleu was just, Okay, what is the value exactly of

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<v Speaker 1>these off season workouts and mini camps when you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of start to crawl before you walk, walk before you run,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole process of the build up the training camp

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of these guys because they haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>that luxury. And now you can sit there and you

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<v Speaker 1>can ask questions, you can be able to dive deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into what's going on. They can sit there and see

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<v Speaker 1>themselves on film. Why did you do this? You can

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<v Speaker 1>diagnose things, So it's such a valuable asset and tool

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<v Speaker 1>if you approach it that way. There you go, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>stand on the Red Sea Report. In your mind, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a certain position group that will benefit most.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean certain players or areas where you think the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals can make that next step based on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the off season procedures. Yeah, you know, I've said for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time, Paulie, the further you get away from

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<v Speaker 1>the football, the better your rods are of actually getting

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<v Speaker 1>better in the off season. Seriously, and yeah, Steve Breston

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<v Speaker 1>truly changed my mind on that, Pollie. Steve, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that off season that he had Paul from one

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<v Speaker 1>season to the next, that off season where he was

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<v Speaker 1>really really absorbing the offense. He was making plays, he

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<v Speaker 1>was learning how to get off the press. He just was.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew so much in the off season and then

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<v Speaker 1>came back and had that a thousand yard season where

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<v Speaker 1>he was part of the greatest show on turf, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And you too, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you saw it from your angle and I heard it

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<v Speaker 1>from the sideline his rookie year and how many times

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<v Speaker 1>he got aired out by Kurt Warner the offensive coaches

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<v Speaker 1>for just the mental mistakes, the failure to adapt or

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to a route and read coverage, but because you

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<v Speaker 1>know how critical that is for all the receivers obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he made that that leap just mentally from

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<v Speaker 1>year one to year two. And dare I say that

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<v Speaker 1>there were too many times? It was too often? It

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<v Speaker 1>was too frequent a year ago where Kyler Murray was

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<v Speaker 1>not on the same page with a lot of his receivers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know aj green Yeah, how many times can

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<v Speaker 1>you think of? And it wasn't just the faithful failure

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around against Green Bay. There were other times

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<v Speaker 1>where they just learned on the same page. If Rondale

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<v Speaker 1>Moore truly wants to be wide receiver too, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least be that downfield threat, he's gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 1>that chemistry with Kyler Murray, right, Paul. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing too. Once again, honestly, we had this belief

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<v Speaker 1>as players back when I was playing in You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>remember that was nineteen eighty five. When I came into

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<v Speaker 1>the league, nineteen eighty five, Paul, it was a brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>physical game. Everybody was running the same offense for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, everybody ran the same place. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>how much more brutal could you possibly be? So when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that mindset and you're in the off season

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not putting the pads on. You're running around

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<v Speaker 1>in shorts and a helmet, Paul, Nobody respected anything that

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing because we all knew it's not football

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<v Speaker 1>until you put the mouth guard in and start leveling somebody, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are still some positions where I think that

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<v Speaker 1>might be true, Paul. And of course it's the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the defensive line, we'd look at that closely.

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<v Speaker 1>But a guy like Zaven Collins by way of example,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, this is going to be a critical

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<v Speaker 1>off season for Zaven Collins, Paul. If he gets it

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<v Speaker 1>down mentally, if he gets his eyes adjusted where they

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<v Speaker 1>need to be, I think we can expect an awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot out of this dude. Yeah. Can he call the defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Can he wear the green dot? Can he communicate it

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<v Speaker 1>to a defense? Can he make those adjustments based on

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<v Speaker 1>what the offense is doing once they break the huddle? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>these are all things where you can make progress in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season. In fact, that that was the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>And Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback on the Red Sea Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain guys that I worked with, they run routes, even

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<v Speaker 1>it might be the same route, but how they run

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<v Speaker 1>it on the right side is vastly different than how

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<v Speaker 1>they run on the left side. If they break down,

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<v Speaker 1>when they drop their weight, how they come out of

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<v Speaker 1>their cut? You know, is this a speed cut? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a breakdown and come out of the cut? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this the right angle that you're at? Is this the

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<v Speaker 1>right coverage we're seeing? So yes, this allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>do those things, much like on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, that secondary has to com unison they're disguising

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<v Speaker 1>of coverages. How much do we do and how active

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<v Speaker 1>we are at the line of scrimmage with our safeties,

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<v Speaker 1>rocking and rolling them, trying to hold it the last second.

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<v Speaker 1>If every NFL game comes down to a handful of place,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even one or two place, yeah, and that play

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<v Speaker 1>is decided by a matter of inches, then those are

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of things that can make a difference, a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference in the outcome of games. Yes, And of

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<v Speaker 1>course I didn't hear the whole conversation, which your standing,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, it's interesting to hear them talking about receivers

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to get some type of chemistry with receivers

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're on the right side or the left side,

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<v Speaker 1>and defensive backs as well. You know, I really believe

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<v Speaker 1>still that's where you can improve the most. But knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what to do is so critical, so important. Any position

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<v Speaker 1>where you know what to do, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go out and execute better. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The game winning driving the Super Bowl was Cooper cop

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<v Speaker 1>and Matthew Stafford and that was it. They were four

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<v Speaker 1>for four, connect down the field where no other weapons

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<v Speaker 1>really healthier on the floor at that point. And it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to their all season workouts and getting there

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<v Speaker 1>at six am. You know who knows about that, Rashaw Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>the former Cardinals safety. He joins us, we're talking draft. Next.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew it was a big story because I was

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy made T shirts that saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>got nine more fingers. The question was asked like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you lost a portion of your finger, you

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<v Speaker 1>lost a finger, you know, like, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>I got nine more? And everybody warred under their shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>path for the rest of the year and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine more is a mindset, you know, like do I

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the one I? Do? I focus on what

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<v Speaker 1>I have? So I think it's just a shift in life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what I do, you know, on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>It's what's gotten me through the transition post my career.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, do you focus on not playing football? No more?

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<v Speaker 1>Are on the beauty of your wife and the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>girls that you have. It's a voice of Rashaw Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>from Cardinals Folk Tales Wolf It was it was debuted

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<v Speaker 1>this football season of great acclaim and these were Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries and in particular, this was the tale, the story

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<v Speaker 1>of how the Cardinals lost a game in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>Rashad Johnson lost more than a football game. He I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't just give a finger to the Saints, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He gave a fingertip literally in New Orleans. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he gave is part of that game. And all I

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<v Speaker 1>remember is Patrick Peterson saying, how oh boy, look, his

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<v Speaker 1>glove is leaking like a fawcet. And that is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. That is a part of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Rashad Johnson, who joins us now on the Big Red

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<v Speaker 1>Rage all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert And it's

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<v Speaker 1>always a treat to hook up with a former Cardinal's safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven years with the Cardinals, sixteen career picks and a

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<v Speaker 1>wealth of knowledge, especially when it comes to the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>and Alabama, where he is currently one of the radio

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasters are shot. How we doing doing well, Paul Wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>How you guys doing man? We're doing great. Man. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I called my brother and let him know that you

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<v Speaker 1>were coming on, because he played twelve years in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>We sit around and tell that story about you losing

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<v Speaker 1>your fingertip, and we just speak of you in reverend terms.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, bro, I'm doing good, Man, doing good Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a crazy story. I'm still and you know, living

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<v Speaker 1>with that, but it's working out well in my favor.

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<v Speaker 1>My little girl asks about it all the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. By the way, you can see the video,

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary itself, YouTube dot com, slash az Cardinals or

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that we put together with Jim Amhndro Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>Folk Tales. Just search that wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the here's the football stat though, because those who

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<v Speaker 1>are not familiar with Rashad Johnson's story, all right, forget

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<v Speaker 1>about the fingertip for a minute. We're talking Wolf and

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<v Speaker 1>you know this a walk on running back from a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny one a high school in state in Alabama. You

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is accurate as zero star recruit who

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<v Speaker 1>ended up first team All SEC as a safety for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban and one of the only two time team

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<v Speaker 1>captains in Bama history. Man, I mean you want reverence,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that story? And here's a stat for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you know this rashod that

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<v Speaker 1>last season the NFL sixteen former Alabama defensive backs played

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<v Speaker 1>at least one game in the NFL in twenty twenty one. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a time, man, um And I guess you know

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<v Speaker 1>I can sell it was a tribute to that the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning class, No cook Sabans first year and no one

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted, and the next year he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>get three or four guys out and I was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the lone dbs so able to start that class

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of great guys behind us. Man, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much talent that comes out of that out of

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<v Speaker 1>that stadium. I'm just, you know, lucky, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it, and its built my

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<v Speaker 1>legacy there. But it's been a lot of fun being

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<v Speaker 1>back now, Man, being on the radio and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know how exciting it is to stay close

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<v Speaker 1>to the game. Yeah, no doubt about it. Jot. How

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<v Speaker 1>does this draft class for l Obama compare two years past. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good one. You know, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>as strong as some of the year's past. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have some some some great talent. Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Neil obviously, Um, you know Jamison Williams as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know John Metchie just thinking to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys initially right now, Uh, you know, possible first rounders obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Neil's gonna be first round and Jamison Williams as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they, you know, have some strong talent

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<v Speaker 1>in there. But man, if you look back at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the earlier years and still here recently, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the top picks that we've had from Jalen Waddle to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vante Smith to you know, Jerry Judy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys all in the same room together. You know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five draft picks in the first round that

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<v Speaker 1>we've done in some of these drafts. So, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is a strong one for us. Probably not our best,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean still a lot of talent with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys that's coming out, I'm excited to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just how they start their careers and then

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<v Speaker 1>what they do with it. Man Or Johnson is our

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<v Speaker 1>guest on the Big Red Rage. It's All about You,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert all Right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. The Cardinals definitely have a need for a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver too. Jamison Williams. Some mock drafts have him

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<v Speaker 1>lasting until twenty three overall just because of the torn

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<v Speaker 1>ACL in the championship game. First off, how fast is

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<v Speaker 1>he do you think? Because when you watched his highlight reel,

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<v Speaker 1>man does he separate against sec dbs? He ended up

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<v Speaker 1>First team All American. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's blink of an eye, beat beat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>running past you, and it's long strides. He's a tall guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, six one six two are taller, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he is, you know, literally running past guys the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. And the thing about it, he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that you know he's running a deep route.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's going to give you a post, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a run to go on you. And it's nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do about it. But what I love about

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<v Speaker 1>him is that you know, he's verse to though he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't only just run those routes. He's good and out

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<v Speaker 1>of his breaks um in other situations where he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to run come back third and longs and making separations there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest thing that I loved about Jamison Williams

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<v Speaker 1>this year was how tough he was and how competitive

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I mean, he was a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>running down on punt you know, as a gunner, making tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>got kicked out of a game actually for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a helmet to helmet hit. So I mean those type

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<v Speaker 1>of people at ryde receiver normally you don't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and he that lets you know, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different breed of player. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>losing him ultimately, you know, it was a big loss

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<v Speaker 1>for us late in the season in that championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think whoever picks him up late in this

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<v Speaker 1>draft in his first round is getting the steal of

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<v Speaker 1>a player. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Jamison Williams is big time man. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about some of the other guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Who's the one guy. Nobody's talking enough about

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<v Speaker 1>it as far as you're concerned, Who is that one

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's really good? I think just looking at that

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<v Speaker 1>at that group obviously, you know, like I said, Evan

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamison Williams are getting a lot of the buzz. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a kid who who hasn't he hasn't played

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot um due to injuries. Um, but he

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<v Speaker 1>has all the twos. He may end up being a

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<v Speaker 1>late round round pick, or he may even be free agent. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jalen Armor Davis Um, you know this season, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was playing well. I was leading the team at one

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<v Speaker 1>point interceptions. And I've watched him, man, he has he

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<v Speaker 1>has great footwork, He's very athletic, competitive, will come up

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<v Speaker 1>and tackle you. But he's just been plagued by the

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<v Speaker 1>injury bug. And when we all know some of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you know had talent and some way another

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<v Speaker 1>Jay just stay off the field. I mean he got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt in warmups one year, you know, with like a

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<v Speaker 1>messed up shoulder and was out for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. So this year was getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>get rolling um and showed that he had the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays and do it you know, consistently. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so I was excited to watch him playing, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he went down, and you know, we had to play

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<v Speaker 1>some younger guys. So I'm looking at Jaalen armor Davis

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<v Speaker 1>as a you know, late round free agent, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>it may be able to make a buzz if he

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<v Speaker 1>can stay healthy. You know, I jotted his name down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a corner. The Cardinals have a need of that position.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people think they might even target corner

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round. But yeah, that's a guy absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's described as long, fast, talented, but just

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<v Speaker 1>a one year starter, six one nearly two hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>What about someone you mentioned earlier, John Metchi. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they lost Christian Kirk five eleven, a buck eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>not a burner, but good quickness, and I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of experience. He was second team All SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>What about a John Mechi as an NFL slot receiver. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that for John m because he doesn't, necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, have that long speed, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Jamison Williams of Jalen Waddle. He's not gonna pull

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<v Speaker 1>away from anybody and make that seventy eighty yard run,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the professional level, but he has a savness

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<v Speaker 1>and a unique competitiveness about him. He's stocking his bill

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<v Speaker 1>so he can fit in there and play in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game and get a little bit rough in there

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<v Speaker 1>if he has to um. But then I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has that ability within the short area quickness is where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at his best to separate on you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>third and five, third and threes when we got to

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<v Speaker 1>make a play, and we need someone that can make

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<v Speaker 1>that initial separation may not be to run away from

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<v Speaker 1>him once he catches the ball, but all we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is move the chains. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy you know, could that could definitely do that

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<v Speaker 1>and play a good role for a team in that factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another guy that you know can play on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams and you know, so him several times run

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<v Speaker 1>down the field and make plays and be physical about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you gotta love that in the player

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And then you know a guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>able to wait his turn, you know, and then still

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<v Speaker 1>be humble about it when he got another guy that

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<v Speaker 1>came in and was better to him. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that slot position is a great role for him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly right now, I mean we know about Trey Von

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<v Speaker 1>Walker or the headliner that is of course for Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you about Jordan Davis and what

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<v Speaker 1>you have seen from this guy. I shot, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a man who was three hundred forty one pounds

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<v Speaker 1>run a four seven eight. I have never seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you know about Jordan Davis. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we all saw him at the combine, but

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<v Speaker 1>just having a chance to watch him up close and personal, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leading up to the SEC Championship, and then

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<v Speaker 1>again for the National championship. Just man, just a physical

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:24.479
<v Speaker 1>specimen with his size, but just the rare like we

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<v Speaker 1>saw speed obviously straight line speed, but just the niftiness

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Man, that he gets off the ball. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we remember a guy by the name of Darnell Docket

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<v Speaker 1>that had a great get off the ball, great get off,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he has like a slenderness to him, like

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<v Speaker 1>Calais class is so slender when he gets into that

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<v Speaker 1>that past mode situation in the interior rush. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's special. When you got a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>interior that can rush the pastor especially nowadays with these

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<v Speaker 1>you know quarterbacks that can get out of the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and use their leg if we can, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>him contain on the outside and you got a Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Davis inside who can win. I mean that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>to an elite level, you know, as we saw with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams and Aaron donald S. But you know, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>that's a quick tag to give him. But he has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tools and a lot of ability to

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<v Speaker 1>direct the shop up front like that too. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Johnson, our guests on The Big Red Rage, former

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals safety, member of that Alabama broadcast team. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing this correctly, Trey Lion Burks, the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>out of Arkansas six two two twenty five, you want tough.

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<v Speaker 1>He has described his tough play the game with a

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<v Speaker 1>cast on one hand. This year as a receiver of

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<v Speaker 1>four five five forty and against Bama this year he

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<v Speaker 1>had eight catches of bucks seventy nine receiving in two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about Trey Lion Burks because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mock drafts have the Arkansas receiver going to the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>man physical specimen, and then he was physical about his

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<v Speaker 1>play like he was one of the guys you know

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. Early on, you know, you could see

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<v Speaker 1>him winning in his matchups, but it was like quick games.

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>It was like tall sweeps to him. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>was just running through tackles, you know, from from the

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback of the line packer in fighting for those extra

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<v Speaker 1>yards you know, on plays of that nature. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a post or a goal. He was

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<v Speaker 1>catching the slants and catching digs and catching quick game

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and then making the plays after the catch. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's always specially unique from that ride receiver position. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to separate, you know and make the play,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you make guys miss you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>make even bigger play That just makes you elite. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, Trey l and Burt's is elite. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's that you know one two between him

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamison. What are you looking for? Um? He made

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have him because he has that physical statue

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to him that that's gonna wear dB out if he doesn't,

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, scrap his chin strap up all games. Mishod.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, I want to go back to Georgia right

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<v Speaker 1>here in Jordan Davis because Devonte Wyatt is also a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle for Georgia. Their entire defensive line is good

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<v Speaker 1>that much. We do know who would you take Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Davis or Devonte Wyatt first? Who would you take? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great um. I like Wyatt Um in the

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>two games you know, watching it Bama, it just seems

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like he has a little bit more arranged to him. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>about the same size, but in terms of just sideline

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and sideline and the games that we're playing, Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to sustain a little bit better than Jordan

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Davis was. If you go back to the SEC Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems as though he got tired, um, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit fatigued. So that maybe something that you may worry about,

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a season, you know, not playing twelve games.

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Now we're playing, you know, seventeen games, you know, much

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>longer season, playoffs, things of that nature. You know, who's

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to sustain with that size and that

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.360
<v Speaker 1>weight that Jordan Davis has. Obviously you know he's an

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>elite player, we know that. But just in that one

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>game when I saw him, you know, not be able

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to finish it, and you know, it seems as though

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, tired and not being able to

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<v Speaker 1>make it. It made me question, you know, in a

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>longer NFL season, how is he going to be a

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>sustaining and even as he can do it for one year,

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>can he do it for five and six years? So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to place bed. I'm gonna place it

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<v Speaker 1>on Wyatt. Do you have an opinion on the top

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<v Speaker 1>corner in this draft? Because we saw Derek Stingley LSU

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>work out today and he had his forty in between

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 1>four four flat and a four four four, I mean

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>his vertical thirty eight and a half. They say his

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<v Speaker 1>freshman season twenty nineteen was just ridiculous in turn, like

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Peterson esque at the college level. But then of

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 1>course you have Sauce Gardner from Cincinnati and Andrew Booth

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<v Speaker 1>from Clemson. And I don't know if you how many

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>of these guys you saw in person or if you

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<v Speaker 1>had an opinion on the top corner in this draft. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously got a chance to see Stingley in person, saying

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<v Speaker 1>with soft Gardener as well, and with those two guys, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's me and I'm the defensive back guy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all about consistency. M I understand upside and you know, potential,

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>and I know people want to talk about those things,

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<v Speaker 1>but for me, like show me the consistency. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bet on that one hundred percent of the time because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what excels at the next level. You know, it's

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>being consistent. I don't want a guy that can, you know,

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>stop him on this down and then give up a

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>big play later on in the game because he's cheating

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>with his eyes. That's not my type of dB UM.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>But I think there steely Um does have all the twos.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in twenty nineteen, like you said, he had

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous year. I got a chance to see it

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<v Speaker 1>in person, but then I saw the following years not

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>as consistent. You know, had a few injuries here and there.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Um a Sauce Gardner, no touchdown Um, just consistent in

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and out. Maybe they can say the play was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit less than the different league. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>someone that can play on the island and do it

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>as consistent as you know Gardner did. Um, he has

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to be your top guy. And you know he didn't

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>he perform well in the combine. So if it's me,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the sauce Um And you know, and I'm

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna double down on it, make it very spicy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man. So much respect for you, Bro, so

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<v Speaker 1>much respect. Thank for you guys, for you and the

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>person you are in the player you were, and the

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>analysts you are. Of course, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us, Bro anytime, man, anytime. Looking forward to doing

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in a person next time I'm out that way. Yeah,

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that would be great. Absolutely, Thank you for Shot. I

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>appreciate I teld your story to a couple of fifteen

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>year olds I dropped off at a baseball game earlier today,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>just about how you went from walk on a two

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>time team captain in your NFL career. So inspirational in

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>so many different ways, and we always enjoy it. Thanks

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>for Shot. Anytime, Paul, I can do anything for those guys,

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>tell them Holly at mean, you got my number, We'll

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>do We'll do. There you go. That's great stuff. Man.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna break that down and we're gonna get into

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>which positions would be most NFL ready for the Cardinals

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in the draft this year. The Big Red Rage continues

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>right after this second down and goal well for the

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Chargers on the eagle too, Herbert under center Kelly the tale,

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>but Anderson the full back in the eye rolling to

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the light as Herbert, He's got Anderson of the goal

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>line touchdown. He's done a lot of the dirty work

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>for this Charger team, a lot of blocking. He's played

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>some fullback. He's lined up at fullback on this one.

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Great play baked by Justin Herbert's rolling to the right,

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>and it was a race between Anderson and the linebacker

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>t J. Edwards, and Anderson won. Ron Wolfley. This is

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<v Speaker 1>about as close as you'll get to a fullback on

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<v Speaker 1>a Cliff Kingsbury roster. You realize that the tight end

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Anderson, former receiver in the Pack twelve tight end

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<v Speaker 1>with the Chargers, five years in the league at six

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<v Speaker 1>three two thirty and really closer to six two two thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy who has a hybrid or an h

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>back has been in the backfield quite a bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that's what Cliff Kingsbury has in mind.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that's about as close as you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get fulfilling your wish of a fullback in this offense. No,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you're right about that, PAULI. I was glad to see

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<v Speaker 1>it once again, because I do think it continues to

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<v Speaker 1>point in arrow towards a more physical offense, a more

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>traditional offense to some degree. And I don't say that

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>is oh boy, look they're going to be running Kyler

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Murray under center. Forty snaps again that this is not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. But Paul, if you look across

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the league, and in particular, I would say, look at

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Titans, the team the Arizona Cardinals are actually

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>going to travel to and hold training camp practices with.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Look at their offense. A lot of it is eleven personnel,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it is shotgun, and a lot

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of it is here comes the RPO, and here comes

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>his zonn read of course, with Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And then they mix it, Paul, with twelve personnel and look, everybody,

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>there's King Henry. His toes are at seven. What do

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you say we let him attack the line of scrimmage.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>They'll do it out of a zone scheme, and they'll

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>do it out of a gap scheme, which is a

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>power scheme, which means you basically pull the uncovered lineman

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>down blocks by offensive lineman and then pull the uncover

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>word lineman for kickouts. It's a power scheme. It's very

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>very physical. I think when you look at Steven Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly an arrow that continues to point towards a

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>more physical offense. Baul, Yeah, he gets a one year

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>deal around one million dollars reportedly and drew standing on

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea Report, Cardinal's former quarterback thirteen years in

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the league. You know, just talked about maybe the flexibility

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that some of these signees, right, some of the free

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>agents and the guys they brought back, and what it

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>does to maybe create an advantage on offense. You give

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>yourself flexibility within personnel group. We say say, hey, we

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>gain an advantage here because we really like the fact

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that we can get him on the field versus him,

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>or we want this type of defensive personnel on the

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>field because they're gonna match. They're gonna stay in nickel

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>even if we're in twelve personnel, so they get an

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>advantage there, or they stay in base or whatever it is.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So we gained a passive advantage. So it becomes one

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of these things where you just give yourself freedom to

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>go down different pass when the time comes. So two

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>quick thoughts Number one, maybe the Cardinals is the same.

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to substitute as much that we want

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to keep some of the same players but be able

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to run a lot of different things out of that.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just maybe they realize that, you know, this second

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>half fate that our offense has suffered the last couple

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of years. Maybe just maybe we were we were showing

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a little too much. It was a little too predictable

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>based on some of our personnel groups. You mentioned this

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>significance of losing a Max Williams, and when Max is

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>on the field, you don't truly know are they going

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to run it? Are they gonna throw it? Because he's

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a dual tight end. So maybe just maybe that's something

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they've identified and they don't want to substitute as much

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's too much of a tell. Polly, I'm telling

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you right now, honestly, you're right on it, and it's

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why again the Tennessee Titans are

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>burtle in rundown situation because of all the twelve personnel,

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>one back and two tight ends. I think the Arizona

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals are going to do the same thing. I don't

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>know that for a fact, I suspect that's where what

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>they're going to do. Brandon Staley. You know Brandon Staley

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>is correct Charger's head coach from a Ram's de coordinator. Yeah,

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>ding Ding Dinging. You nailed it, Polly, right here, he

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>said this. You can't have enough tight ends for me

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>because gaps and vertical threats make you a lot more

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>challenging to defend. So we're always going to be looking

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>for that position. I really value tight ends. I feel

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like from a defensive standpoint, the teams that can play

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>with two tight ends and make it look like a

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other things, that makes it really tough on you.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>So we're always going to be looking for that position

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>because I think it gives you an advantage structurally. Polly,

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>when you hear Brandon Staley, this defensive savant, when you

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>hear him talk about gaps and vertical threats, what he's

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about is running the ball in between the tackles

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and then using play action to throw the ball vertically,

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>especially over the middle of the field. That's what he's

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about. So I think at also, once again, when

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you look at all the pieces that Steve Kim and

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals have gone out and signed bringing them

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>back at all points towards that could I also point

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>towards Kyle Shanahan, George Kittle and Kyle use check and

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>using right and a similar type fashion. And now Mike

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>McDaniel is going to adopt some of that with the Dolphins.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>He went out and he snagged a fullback that he's

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>going to use sort of in that h back spot

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. So absolutely, now here's the question, Okay, if

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you've checked that box at tight end, what are you

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>going to do at receiver? And I want to revisit

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>some of what Rasha Johnson told us about a couple

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of those rookie receivers who have been mocked to the Cardinals.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But first here's Drew stan red Sea report again just

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>why it's challenging to make that sort of impact that

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>teams want for some of these rookie receivers. As far

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>as wide receiver, that's another tough position to come into

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>because you have to be able to identify coverage and

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>cliff system. You have to be able to dentify hots

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and sights and all these different aspects that we see

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys that we've drafted high in the

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>past not be able to make that jump right away,

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of them are still on the roster. So

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Rondel Moore, you're looking for more from him, and he

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Isabella is still on the roster right now. Guys that

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you would love to see kind of step up to

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the plate because it is hard. It's something that's asked

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of you, and it's a thinking portion of it, but

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>then there's the physical portion of it. And then when

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>those don't align correctly, you're going to struggle. And then

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>your conference starts the waiver your reaction to that Wolf

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>because I hear that, and I think, you know what,

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals have to sign another proven, better receiver or two,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>even if they get one of the top guys in

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>round one. It's just so uncertain during a rookie receiver's

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>initial year. Yeah, now you're right about that, PAULI. It

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>really is. We've talked about this. We've had this conversation

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>about how difficult it is for a wide receiver to

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>walk in to an NFL room and suddenly go out

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and make a difference the Jamar Chases of the world.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Those are exceptions, Paul Ye Okay, Justin Jeffersons, those are

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>once a year. That is, that is not really the

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>rule right there at wide receivers. So yeah, you'd love

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to see that, you know what, Polly. Honestly, I wonder

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>about a trade right now, especially right now free agency

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and the free agent frenzy is over for the most part,

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and here comes the other still point. Here comes the

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft where these two things free agent friends, free

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>agent frenzy, and then the draft. Polly, they make things happen.

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed this that suddenly they force it in

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>certain situations? And I think right now there could be

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>a possible trade that Steve Kimes something Steve Kime has

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>done very very well with using trades. Is it possible

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that he's eyeballing some of these guys across the league?

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>It is definitely possible. Just don't tell me you're giving

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>up a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. It's out there.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I know it's out there. I know what the Texans want.

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't give it to him. Don't give up a number

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>two pick, a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. And

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna have to give him the Mondo contract

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>because he's going into the final year of his deal.

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to trade for a guy unless you

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>get him under a big contract extension. To me, that

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is just too much. I would rather take my chances

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>in a round two type situation on a receiver, because

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>have you noticed how exorbitant the price is on receivers

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to get a guy right now on a rookie contract.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean you think a tank of gas is expensive.

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean you talk about inflation. Stefan Diggs just got

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>four years, ninety six million, seventy million in total guarantees

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Stefon Diggs, and that's after the Tyreek kill and Davante

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Adam steals. Yeah, PAULI, it is shocking to me that

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't like Brandon Cooks. I like him. I just

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>don't like to give a round two pick and the contract.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, yeah, I understand that, but but like how

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 1>much money? He's not a one. He's not a number

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>one receiver, Brandon Cooks. He's a number two, maybe a

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>one eight if you want to call him that. I

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think you a number one. Now. If he's gonna

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>want unbelievable money, then I'm with you on that one.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem. Do you think you can actually

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>get Tyler Lockett? For a second round pick. What do

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you think about that one? Now? You're think the Seattle

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks would be willing to say, well, you know what,

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I let's let by gones be by gones. And you

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>know what, that number two pick looks really really good

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>because I'll tell you right now, Tyler Lockett over the

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>top of DeAndre Hopkins, and I'm sure that the Seattle

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks are thinking, well, listen, we're not gonna win for

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>another three four years, so um yeah, maybe we'll take

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that second round pick and use it. Is that a possibility?

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I doubt it? But but you know what, after what

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Rashad Johnson just told us right the former Cardinal safety

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and Alabama broadcaster earlier here in the Big Red Rage

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>brought you by Santan Ford and Gilbert on Treylon Burkes.

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>By the way, you know that Arkansas receiver six to

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty five first team All SEC when he's saying they're

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>throwing him slants and digs and short underneath stuff and

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:01.720
<v Speaker 1>he's just making guys miss out Alabama defenders or running

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>through an over him and makes me think of a

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel. It makes me think of an AJ Brown.

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>He's built that way, yes, or when he told us

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Jamison Williams, who is a flat out flyer, This guy

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is just a burner. If you watch the film making

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>sec dbs look slow, and he's told us that he's tough,

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he's competitive. Yeah, he's a dog, he's a gunner. He

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>got thrown out of a game for getting into it

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 1>with someone, and he has a good versatile roud tree.

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 1>If you're telling me Jamison Williams is all that. Plus

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>he's a burner, I know, Polly. I mean honestly, I

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>hear everything you're saying right there. There's just one problem.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>How many times have we seen wide receivers not pan out?

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Ye in the NFL. I mean that's the problem. They

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>all came out with this kind of pedigree, in this

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of oh my goodness, look at this guy. Look

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.959
<v Speaker 1>at this guy play? Um you know I beware, man,

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying. Beware when you look at a

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>rookie and start to depend on him to actually come

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 1>through in order for you to win games. Hey, I'm

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>an upcoming addition to the big Red Rage day Pass

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>will join us. He's seen a lot of these guys

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 1>called a lot of their games and you can catch

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>up on past episodes of The Day Pash Podcast via

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>your preferred podcast provider. Get us the latest updates via

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Pash pod. All right, we gotta finish it

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>up the b NBA standing for blooper or blunder. Next

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Red Rage with the new CBA. You

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>wan't get so much time to practice, and we're not

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna waste to stretching. Like I told him, if the

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Dobeoman jumped out of the car with a gun, your

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>ass wouldn't be stretching. Give me you're running. I think

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>some of the defensive guys were holding onto their ass.

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what are you doing? Coaches? I was taught

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, coach him hard and hug him later.

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Rip a guy's ass out there. Just football. There's nothing personal.

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You're just all much football stinks. You're a pretty good guy.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank for y'all for coming to my house. I hope

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>you get home set. Oh man, that was a great tone.

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>That was a great era of Bruce arians head coach,

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinal's little best to be a clip there

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>from our Jim Amhundro out of his fast archives and

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>just the one liners and the dead pans and the

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>laughs and Wolf I did not realize to about to

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 1>start the show. You had a chance to reconnect with

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians, who is now retired former NFL head coach. Yeah, Polly,

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he's doing really, really well. Had the opportunity to speak

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to Bruce today. He said he lost fifty pounds. You

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>could see it at the press conference, could you, Polly.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I did not see that. No, Yeah, he lost a

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of weight. You could see it in his face.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's still not good looking at all, but

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you can see in his face he lost an awful

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of way, Polly. And by the way, I asked

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>him at the end of the conversation if he still

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>would have cut me, and he said yes. And you

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>know it. So you probably didn't have time to get

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>into how he asked you to speak to the rookies

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>his first year and we were never invited back. In fact,

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to get into that. But you

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>did ask about Larry Fitzgerald. What was the headline from

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the fitz Angle. Yeah, you know, I just said, hey, listen, um,

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>did you try to get Larry Fitzgerald to go and

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we're both laughing

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said yes. He said. There was a little

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>pause and he said yeah, and why not when you

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>think about it. The guys were retired, you know, supposedly

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>at Lace. You know, he's not playing football. He picked

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>up the phone. He said, I had to call him

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>just to see if he was interested in possibly doing it.

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>And he said that Larry told him that he had

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't run two plays back to back or something

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's what he told me. So speaking to

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the phone and Bruce Arians Drew Stanton, here's his story

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>from the Red Sea Report for your former head coach,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians announcing that he was going to step down

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and Todd Boles is now the head coach. The Buccaneers

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>surprised her. Do you know things that maybe the rest

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of us don't know? No, I was completely surprised. How

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>much time do we have here? So make sure I

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>don't go over it because I had a complete blunder

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of like why you don't text in a hurry? And

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm okay sharing this because obviously Bea and are close,

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>but I had no idea and I'm walking out the

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>door and I missed a call from AQ Shipley and

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I text them back. I was like, Hey, what's going

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>on in Tampa. I was like, I'm headed to my

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>son's baseball game. I saw BA retired. I was like,

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Tom didn't force this, did he? And I go to

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the baseball game. After the game, I get a text

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 1>from BA and he said, hey kid, it's me. Now.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>He didn't force it. He's like, I just wanted to

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>do in my own terms. And I was like, oh, man,

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you talk about day Blunder, I said, be a text

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>on retirement saying did Tom force you to retire? Not quite? Well,

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Belichick to Brian Flores. But but I mean Drew Stanton

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>thought he was texting Aq Shipley with just a straightforward

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>did Tom oust him? And instead he was sending that

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to Bruce Arians himself. Yeah? Awkward, old man, that is

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>awkward right there, Paul, No God about him. Man, That

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>is good stuff from Drew. Drew stand but Paul, it was.

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome to catch up with him. He's doing

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>very very well. You know what else is awesome. I'll

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>just stuck this in before we wrap with this edition

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of The Big Red Rage. You see the headline at

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>NFL Dot com today and I quote strongest position group

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in the draft question mark, and the answer is edge defender. Edge.

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>That's true, man, if that's true, or you can admit

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>they say there's like fifteen twenty guys that can come

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>off the edge in this draft. I mean we started

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>with a rhetorical question, we'll end with one. Do the

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals are on wipefully need an edge rusher? You

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>know what, Paul, Yes, this is the great thing about it.

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>But I would say this, man, if there's a wide

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>receiver there, Paul at number twenty three that you really

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>really like, Oh, that's not a bad way to go.

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe even a corner at twenty three, that's not a

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 1>bad way to go, Paul. You could get that edge

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.720
<v Speaker 1>guy in the second round. If there's that many guys,

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that many guys that could come off the edge and

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 1>advanced Joe of defense. Oh yeah, man, I'm dealing with that, Paul.

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll go wide receiver first, and that edge you know

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>my guy you want to hear my guy mayage rusher

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get in round two? Yeah, Nick Benito, Oklahoma,

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you know I heard about this guy. Man, he's been

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>mocked out to the Cardinals a couple of times. Right now,

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.439
<v Speaker 1>What do you know about him, Paul Well, His Pro

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Football Focus grates are off the chart. His pass rush

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>win rate was number one in two twenty one of

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.720
<v Speaker 1>any pass rusher, and it's the highest marksin's two nineteen,

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and if you go back to two thou sixteen, he's

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>top five. The other guys are Miles Garrett and the

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Bosa brothers. It's ridiculous his production and just how he

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>grates out. We could call him Nick Finito. Oh I

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>love that. Okay, here we go. Special thanks for Shan Johnson.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>At least one of us does for Sean Johnson. Thank you,

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