Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead,
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Speaker 1: take it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show, and Ron will flee if
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far.
Speaker 1: You know, since we're on a Wednesday, let's call roll
Speaker 1: right off the top, just to be sure, Ron Wolfley present. Okay,
Speaker 1: now that we have that, yours truly, Polly Pencilneck has
Speaker 1: a question, true or false? In your day you frequented
Speaker 1: many a dive bar. You know what that's actually that's
Speaker 1: a rhetorical question. I didn't see that coming. Polly that's
Speaker 1: a rhetorical question. You may have been earhold, but you
Speaker 1: know the answer. Of course you did so with that
Speaker 1: in mind. And that said, did you or did you
Speaker 1: not advise J? J. Watt? I mean, were you the
Speaker 1: mastermind of that game plan? Ron Wolfley, the idea man
Speaker 1: behind the three time NFL defensive player that you're mingling
Speaker 1: with the people out and about at a local tavern
Speaker 1: this past weekend, throwing down Bruski's and I don't know,
Speaker 1: schooling the unwashed masses and golden tea No Polly had
Speaker 1: definitely was not me. Um. I made as many enemies
Speaker 1: on the sideline, even at home games, as I did
Speaker 1: on the road. Paul, you work your way through college
Speaker 1: actually in a dive bar, but that I mean honestly,
Speaker 1: well if you you know, I don't know what your
Speaker 1: major was in, but your miner was in dive bars.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Come on, somebody hand me the poole
Speaker 1: cube please. This guy's talking way too much. That's right, Hey,
Speaker 1: we did our we did our pole. You know what's
Speaker 1: the best dive bar game? And I said, well, there
Speaker 1: are two. Number one is darts, anything anytime you can
Speaker 1: throw something that'll kill a guy that's number one, and
Speaker 1: then pool anytime you can swing something that kills a
Speaker 1: guy that's number two. So you know, you know what
Speaker 1: number three is, Polly knuckles. Have you ever heard of knuckles? Polly? Where? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Card game? Yeah, the knuckles said, their card games? And
Speaker 1: you know what they do, right, The miners would sit around,
Speaker 1: they'd whip these cards at their knuckles, just in little cuts.
Speaker 1: These micro yeah, carry microscopic cots, Polly. They would they
Speaker 1: would callous over and form this hard metallic it was
Speaker 1: called knuckles, Paul. They'd sit there and just throw cards,
Speaker 1: playing cards that eat the other guy's knuckles. Think about
Speaker 1: that bad? Well, I can say this. April nineteenth is
Speaker 1: the official start date for the Arizoner Cardinals offseason strength
Speaker 1: and conditioning program. And I'm guessing, Buddy Morris, you're raining
Speaker 1: NFL Strength Coach of the Year, does not have knuckles
Speaker 1: as part of the regiment five. Polly. If you ask him,
Speaker 1: Buddy will know knuckles. He'll know the game knuckles. Well,
Speaker 1: he used his arms. Walk in your out balls, right,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you guys get along. He see's kind of
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh guy. You know, you and you and you
Speaker 1: and buddy, but you find a way, you find a
Speaker 1: way to connect. That's good. That's good. So yes, the
Speaker 1: the offseason dates have been finalized, the mini camps and
Speaker 1: OTAs they're upcoming. But first we're gonna have the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft right before these guys are really hitting the field.
Speaker 1: In earnest we are team minus three weeks in one
Speaker 1: day away from the first round of the draft. In fact,
Speaker 1: on this addition to the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert, we are santan Ford. How about
Speaker 1: Rashaw Johnson, the former Arison A Cardinal, standout safety and
Speaker 1: current member of the Alabama broadcast crew and that football program,
Speaker 1: because you can't talk the draft without talking some of
Speaker 1: Obama top recruits and the SEC as well, Because Wolf,
Speaker 1: I mean, think of how many mock drafts have somebody
Speaker 1: a playmaker from the SEC going to your Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be great, just the fact we get to
Speaker 1: talk to Rashad Johnson about that, Paul, I mean, there
Speaker 1: there are some guys out there. Jordan Davis just comes
Speaker 1: to mind immediately, the defensive tackle from Georgia. I don't know, Paul,
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen anybody like this. Honestly, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think. Listen. I mean, there's the Jets left tackle
Speaker 1: from two years ago, McKay Beckton, and they call him
Speaker 1: Mount Beckton. Yes, but Mount Beckton ain't running No. Fort
Speaker 1: seven eight. No, he's not running for seven eight, Paul,
Speaker 1: do you know how fast that is for a man
Speaker 1: that's three hundred and forty one pounds to be running
Speaker 1: a sub forty eight. It's it's like impossible that I've
Speaker 1: never heard of somebody running a four seven eight that
Speaker 1: weighed three hundred and forty pounds. Yeah. I played with
Speaker 1: some guys, PAULI, that were really, really nimble on their feet.
Speaker 1: Derek Kennard weighed three hundred and forty pounds, but he
Speaker 1: had the butt the size of Jupiter in it. It. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it slowed him down and anchored him a little bit.
Speaker 1: That way. He wouldn't run an O four seven eight.
Speaker 1: But off the ball quickness wise, oh my goodness, he was.
Speaker 1: He was terrified. And you're a man who survived getting
Speaker 1: slimmed by the fridge, William the refrigerator, Perry, so he
Speaker 1: don't see six three three eighty five. He was quick
Speaker 1: as a cat, but he could only do it for
Speaker 1: one playball. Then he had to go over and suck
Speaker 1: it up a little. So will Jordan Davis or somebody
Speaker 1: else being Cardinals rookie mini camp which will be mid May,
Speaker 1: and then of course you're gonna have the official OTAs
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the mini camp. And Drew Stanton, longtime
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, former Cardinals quarterback, was on the re See
Speaker 1: You Report this week and the simple question from Greg
Speaker 1: Greeleu was just, Okay, what is the value exactly of
Speaker 1: these off season workouts and mini camps when you kind
Speaker 1: of start to crawl before you walk, walk before you run,
Speaker 1: that whole process of the build up the training camp
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys because they haven't had
Speaker 1: that luxury. And now you can sit there and you
Speaker 1: can ask questions, you can be able to dive deeper
Speaker 1: into what's going on. They can sit there and see
Speaker 1: themselves on film. Why did you do this? You can
Speaker 1: diagnose things, So it's such a valuable asset and tool
Speaker 1: if you approach it that way. There you go, Drew
Speaker 1: stand on the Red Sea Report. In your mind, well,
Speaker 1: is there a certain position group that will benefit most.
Speaker 1: I mean certain players or areas where you think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals can make that next step based on some of
Speaker 1: the off season procedures. Yeah, you know, I've said for
Speaker 1: the longest time, Paulie, the further you get away from
Speaker 1: the football, the better your rods are of actually getting
Speaker 1: better in the off season. Seriously, and yeah, Steve Breston
Speaker 1: truly changed my mind on that, Pollie. Steve, do you
Speaker 1: remember that off season that he had Paul from one
Speaker 1: season to the next, that off season where he was
Speaker 1: really really absorbing the offense. He was making plays, he
Speaker 1: was learning how to get off the press. He just was.
Speaker 1: He grew so much in the off season and then
Speaker 1: came back and had that a thousand yard season where
Speaker 1: he was part of the greatest show on turf, if
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you too, yes, and
Speaker 1: you saw it from your angle and I heard it
Speaker 1: from the sideline his rookie year and how many times
Speaker 1: he got aired out by Kurt Warner the offensive coaches
Speaker 1: for just the mental mistakes, the failure to adapt or
Speaker 1: adjust to a route and read coverage, but because you
Speaker 1: know how critical that is for all the receivers obviously,
Speaker 1: and so he made that that leap just mentally from
Speaker 1: year one to year two. And dare I say that
Speaker 1: there were too many times? It was too often? It
Speaker 1: was too frequent a year ago where Kyler Murray was
Speaker 1: not on the same page with a lot of his receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know aj green Yeah, how many times can
Speaker 1: you think of? And it wasn't just the faithful failure
Speaker 1: to turn around against Green Bay. There were other times
Speaker 1: where they just learned on the same page. If Rondale
Speaker 1: Moore truly wants to be wide receiver too, or at
Speaker 1: least be that downfield threat, he's gonna have to get
Speaker 1: that chemistry with Kyler Murray, right, Paul. And here's the
Speaker 1: other thing too. Once again, honestly, we had this belief
Speaker 1: as players back when I was playing in You gotta
Speaker 1: remember that was nineteen eighty five. When I came into
Speaker 1: the league, nineteen eighty five, Paul, it was a brutal,
Speaker 1: physical game. Everybody was running the same offense for the
Speaker 1: most part, everybody ran the same place. It was just
Speaker 1: how much more brutal could you possibly be? So when
Speaker 1: you've got that mindset and you're in the off season
Speaker 1: and you're not putting the pads on. You're running around
Speaker 1: in shorts and a helmet, Paul, Nobody respected anything that
Speaker 1: you were doing because we all knew it's not football
Speaker 1: until you put the mouth guard in and start leveling somebody, right,
Speaker 1: And there are still some positions where I think that
Speaker 1: might be true, Paul. And of course it's the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I think the defensive line, we'd look at that closely.
Speaker 1: But a guy like Zaven Collins by way of example,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is going to be a critical
Speaker 1: off season for Zaven Collins, Paul. If he gets it
Speaker 1: down mentally, if he gets his eyes adjusted where they
Speaker 1: need to be, I think we can expect an awful
Speaker 1: lot out of this dude. Yeah. Can he call the defense?
Speaker 1: Can he wear the green dot? Can he communicate it
Speaker 1: to a defense? Can he make those adjustments based on
Speaker 1: what the offense is doing once they break the huddle? Yes,
Speaker 1: these are all things where you can make progress in
Speaker 1: the off season. In fact, that that was the next question.
Speaker 1: And Drew stand former Cardinals quarterback on the Red Sea Report.
Speaker 1: Certain guys that I worked with, they run routes, even
Speaker 1: it might be the same route, but how they run
Speaker 1: it on the right side is vastly different than how
Speaker 1: they run on the left side. If they break down,
Speaker 1: when they drop their weight, how they come out of
Speaker 1: their cut? You know, is this a speed cut? Is
Speaker 1: this a breakdown and come out of the cut? Is
Speaker 1: this the right angle that you're at? Is this the
Speaker 1: right coverage we're seeing? So yes, this allows you to
Speaker 1: do those things, much like on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, that secondary has to com unison they're disguising
Speaker 1: of coverages. How much do we do and how active
Speaker 1: we are at the line of scrimmage with our safeties,
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling them, trying to hold it the last second.
Speaker 1: If every NFL game comes down to a handful of place,
Speaker 1: maybe even one or two place, yeah, and that play
Speaker 1: is decided by a matter of inches, then those are
Speaker 1: the sort of things that can make a difference, a
Speaker 1: big difference in the outcome of games. Yes, And of
Speaker 1: course I didn't hear the whole conversation, which your standing,
Speaker 1: but man, it's interesting to hear them talking about receivers
Speaker 1: and trying to get some type of chemistry with receivers
Speaker 1: whether they're on the right side or the left side,
Speaker 1: and defensive backs as well. You know, I really believe
Speaker 1: still that's where you can improve the most. But knowing
Speaker 1: what to do is so critical, so important. Any position
Speaker 1: where you know what to do, they're going to be
Speaker 1: able to go out and execute better. Think about it.
Speaker 1: The game winning driving the Super Bowl was Cooper cop
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford and that was it. They were four
Speaker 1: for four, connect down the field where no other weapons
Speaker 1: really healthier on the floor at that point. And it
Speaker 1: goes back to their all season workouts and getting there
Speaker 1: at six am. You know who knows about that, Rashaw Johnson,
Speaker 1: the former Cardinals safety. He joins us, we're talking draft. Next.
Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We knew it was a big story because I was
Speaker 1: like the guy made T shirts that saying that he
Speaker 1: got nine more fingers. The question was asked like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know you lost a portion of your finger, you
Speaker 1: lost a finger, you know, like, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I got nine more? And everybody warred under their shoulder
Speaker 1: path for the rest of the year and all of that.
Speaker 1: Nine more is a mindset, you know, like do I
Speaker 1: focus on the one I? Do? I focus on what
Speaker 1: I have? So I think it's just a shift in life.
Speaker 1: It's what I do, you know, on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: It's what's gotten me through the transition post my career.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you focus on not playing football? No more?
Speaker 1: Are on the beauty of your wife and the beautiful
Speaker 1: girls that you have. It's a voice of Rashaw Johnson
Speaker 1: from Cardinals Folk Tales Wolf It was it was debuted
Speaker 1: this football season of great acclaim and these were Cardinals
Speaker 1: documentaries and in particular, this was the tale, the story
Speaker 1: of how the Cardinals lost a game in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson lost more than a football game. He I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't just give a finger to the Saints, right,
Speaker 1: He gave a fingertip literally in New Orleans. That's what
Speaker 1: he gave is part of that game. And all I
Speaker 1: remember is Patrick Peterson saying, how oh boy, look, his
Speaker 1: glove is leaking like a fawcet. And that is part
Speaker 1: of the story. That is a part of his career.
Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson, who joins us now on the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage all presented by santan Ford and Gilbert And it's
Speaker 1: always a treat to hook up with a former Cardinal's safety.
Speaker 1: Seven years with the Cardinals, sixteen career picks and a
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge, especially when it comes to the SEC
Speaker 1: and Alabama, where he is currently one of the radio
Speaker 1: broadcasters are shot. How we doing doing well, Paul Wolf,
Speaker 1: How you guys doing man? We're doing great. Man. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I called my brother and let him know that you
Speaker 1: were coming on, because he played twelve years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We sit around and tell that story about you losing
Speaker 1: your fingertip, and we just speak of you in reverend terms.
Speaker 1: How you doing, bro, I'm doing good, Man, doing good Man.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy story. I'm still and you know, living
Speaker 1: with that, but it's working out well in my favor.
Speaker 1: My little girl asks about it all the time, so
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. By the way, you can see the video,
Speaker 1: the documentary itself, YouTube dot com, slash az Cardinals or
Speaker 1: the podcast that we put together with Jim Amhndro Cardinals
Speaker 1: Folk Tales. Just search that wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the football stat though, because those who
Speaker 1: are not familiar with Rashad Johnson's story, all right, forget
Speaker 1: about the fingertip for a minute. We're talking Wolf and
Speaker 1: you know this a walk on running back from a
Speaker 1: tiny one a high school in state in Alabama. You
Speaker 1: know if this is accurate as zero star recruit who
Speaker 1: ended up first team All SEC as a safety for
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and one of the only two time team
Speaker 1: captains in Bama history. Man, I mean you want reverence,
Speaker 1: how about that story? And here's a stat for you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you know this rashod that
Speaker 1: last season the NFL sixteen former Alabama defensive backs played
Speaker 1: at least one game in the NFL in twenty twenty one. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a time, man, um And I guess you know
Speaker 1: I can sell it was a tribute to that the
Speaker 1: beginning class, No cook Sabans first year and no one
Speaker 1: was drafted, and the next year he was able to
Speaker 1: get three or four guys out and I was one
Speaker 1: of the lone dbs so able to start that class
Speaker 1: of a lot of great guys behind us. Man, there's
Speaker 1: so much talent that comes out of that out of
Speaker 1: that stadium. I'm just, you know, lucky, like I said,
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, and its built my
Speaker 1: legacy there. But it's been a lot of fun being
Speaker 1: back now, Man, being on the radio and talking about
Speaker 1: you guys know how exciting it is to stay close
Speaker 1: to the game. Yeah, no doubt about it. Jot. How
Speaker 1: does this draft class for l Obama compare two years past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good one. You know, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: as strong as some of the year's past. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we have some some some great talent. Evan
Speaker 1: Neil obviously, Um, you know Jamison Williams as well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know John Metchie just thinking to some of the
Speaker 1: guys initially right now, Uh, you know, possible first rounders obviously,
Speaker 1: Evan Neil's gonna be first round and Jamison Williams as well. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think they, you know, have some strong talent
Speaker 1: in there. But man, if you look back at some
Speaker 1: of the earlier years and still here recently, you know,
Speaker 1: the top picks that we've had from Jalen Waddle to
Speaker 1: the Vante Smith to you know, Jerry Judy, you know,
Speaker 1: guys all in the same room together. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: four or five draft picks in the first round that
Speaker 1: we've done in some of these drafts. So, I mean
Speaker 1: this is a strong one for us. Probably not our best,
Speaker 1: but I mean still a lot of talent with some
Speaker 1: of these guys that's coming out, I'm excited to see,
Speaker 1: you know, just how they start their careers and then
Speaker 1: what they do with it. Man Or Johnson is our
Speaker 1: guest on the Big Red Rage. It's All about You,
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert all Right, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. The Cardinals definitely have a need for a
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. Jamison Williams. Some mock drafts have him
Speaker 1: lasting until twenty three overall just because of the torn
Speaker 1: ACL in the championship game. First off, how fast is
Speaker 1: he do you think? Because when you watched his highlight reel,
Speaker 1: man does he separate against sec dbs? He ended up
Speaker 1: First team All American. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: mean he's blink of an eye, beat beat, you know,
Speaker 1: running past you, and it's long strides. He's a tall guy,
Speaker 1: you know, six one six two are taller, and I
Speaker 1: mean he is, you know, literally running past guys the
Speaker 1: whole time. And the thing about it, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that you know he's running a deep route.
Speaker 1: You know he's going to give you a post, you know,
Speaker 1: a run to go on you. And it's nothing that
Speaker 1: you can do about it. But what I love about
Speaker 1: him is that you know, he's verse to though he
Speaker 1: doesn't only just run those routes. He's good and out
Speaker 1: of his breaks um in other situations where he needs
Speaker 1: to run come back third and longs and making separations there.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I loved about Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: this year was how tough he was and how competitive
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, he was a guy that was
Speaker 1: running down on punt you know, as a gunner, making tackles,
Speaker 1: got kicked out of a game actually for you know,
Speaker 1: a helmet to helmet hit. So I mean those type
Speaker 1: of people at ryde receiver normally you don't see that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he that lets you know, like he's
Speaker 1: just a different breed of player. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: losing him ultimately, you know, it was a big loss
Speaker 1: for us late in the season in that championship game.
Speaker 1: But I think whoever picks him up late in this
Speaker 1: draft in his first round is getting the steal of
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that shot.
Speaker 1: I think that Jamison Williams is big time man. Um.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about some of the other guys
Speaker 1: out there, Who's the one guy. Nobody's talking enough about
Speaker 1: it as far as you're concerned, Who is that one
Speaker 1: guy that's really good? I think just looking at that
Speaker 1: at that group obviously, you know, like I said, Evan
Speaker 1: and Jamison Williams are getting a lot of the buzz. Um.
Speaker 1: I like a kid who who hasn't he hasn't played
Speaker 1: a whole lot um due to injuries. Um, but he
Speaker 1: has all the twos. He may end up being a
Speaker 1: late round round pick, or he may even be free agent. UM.
Speaker 1: But Jalen Armor Davis Um, you know this season, you know,
Speaker 1: was playing well. I was leading the team at one
Speaker 1: point interceptions. And I've watched him, man, he has he
Speaker 1: has great footwork, He's very athletic, competitive, will come up
Speaker 1: and tackle you. But he's just been plagued by the
Speaker 1: injury bug. And when we all know some of those
Speaker 1: guys that you know had talent and some way another
Speaker 1: Jay just stay off the field. I mean he got
Speaker 1: hurt in warmups one year, you know, with like a
Speaker 1: messed up shoulder and was out for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. So this year was getting a chance to
Speaker 1: get rolling um and showed that he had the ability
Speaker 1: to make plays and do it you know, consistently. Um
Speaker 1: so I was excited to watch him playing, and obviously
Speaker 1: he went down, and you know, we had to play
Speaker 1: some younger guys. So I'm looking at Jaalen armor Davis
Speaker 1: as a you know, late round free agent, a guy
Speaker 1: it may be able to make a buzz if he
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. You know, I jotted his name down.
Speaker 1: He's a corner. The Cardinals have a need of that position.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think they might even target corner
Speaker 1: in the first round. But yeah, that's a guy absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, he's described as long, fast, talented, but just
Speaker 1: a one year starter, six one nearly two hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: What about someone you mentioned earlier, John Metchi. You know
Speaker 1: they lost Christian Kirk five eleven, a buck eighty seven,
Speaker 1: not a burner, but good quickness, and I mean he's
Speaker 1: had a lot of experience. He was second team All SEC.
Speaker 1: What about a John Mechi as an NFL slot receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that for John m because he doesn't, necessarily,
Speaker 1: like you said, have that long speed, you know, like
Speaker 1: a Jamison Williams of Jalen Waddle. He's not gonna pull
Speaker 1: away from anybody and make that seventy eighty yard run,
Speaker 1: especially at the professional level, but he has a savness
Speaker 1: and a unique competitiveness about him. He's stocking his bill
Speaker 1: so he can fit in there and play in the
Speaker 1: run game and get a little bit rough in there
Speaker 1: if he has to um. But then I think he
Speaker 1: has that ability within the short area quickness is where
Speaker 1: he's at his best to separate on you know, those
Speaker 1: third and five, third and threes when we got to
Speaker 1: make a play, and we need someone that can make
Speaker 1: that initial separation may not be to run away from
Speaker 1: him once he catches the ball, but all we need
Speaker 1: to do is move the chains. And I think he's
Speaker 1: a guy you know, could that could definitely do that
Speaker 1: and play a good role for a team in that factor.
Speaker 1: And then another guy that you know can play on
Speaker 1: special teams and you know, so him several times run
Speaker 1: down the field and make plays and be physical about it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you gotta love that in the player
Speaker 1: as well. And then you know a guy that was
Speaker 1: able to wait his turn, you know, and then still
Speaker 1: be humble about it when he got another guy that
Speaker 1: came in and was better to him. So I think
Speaker 1: that slot position is a great role for him. Okay,
Speaker 1: honestly right now, I mean we know about Trey Von
Speaker 1: Walker or the headliner that is of course for Georgia.
Speaker 1: I have to ask you about Jordan Davis and what
Speaker 1: you have seen from this guy. I shot, I've never
Speaker 1: seen a man who was three hundred forty one pounds
Speaker 1: run a four seven eight. I have never seen that.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you know about Jordan Davis. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean we all saw him at the combine, but
Speaker 1: just having a chance to watch him up close and personal, man,
Speaker 1: you know, leading up to the SEC Championship, and then
Speaker 1: again for the National championship. Just man, just a physical
Speaker 1: specimen with his size, but just the rare like we
Speaker 1: saw speed obviously straight line speed, but just the niftiness
Speaker 1: to him. Man, that he gets off the ball. I know,
Speaker 1: we remember a guy by the name of Darnell Docket
Speaker 1: that had a great get off the ball, great get off,
Speaker 1: but then he has like a slenderness to him, like
Speaker 1: Calais class is so slender when he gets into that
Speaker 1: that past mode situation in the interior rush. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's special. When you got a guy in the
Speaker 1: interior that can rush the pastor especially nowadays with these
Speaker 1: you know quarterbacks that can get out of the pocket
Speaker 1: and use their leg if we can, you know, keep
Speaker 1: him contain on the outside and you got a Jordan
Speaker 1: Davis inside who can win. I mean that takes you
Speaker 1: to an elite level, you know, as we saw with
Speaker 1: the Rams and Aaron donald S. But you know, definitely
Speaker 1: that's a quick tag to give him. But he has
Speaker 1: a lot of tools and a lot of ability to
Speaker 1: direct the shop up front like that too. They were
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson, our guests on The Big Red Rage, former
Speaker 1: Cardinals safety, member of that Alabama broadcast team. So if
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this correctly, Trey Lion Burks, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: out of Arkansas six two two twenty five, you want tough.
Speaker 1: He has described his tough play the game with a
Speaker 1: cast on one hand. This year as a receiver of
Speaker 1: four five five forty and against Bama this year he
Speaker 1: had eight catches of bucks seventy nine receiving in two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Tell us about Trey Lion Burks because a lot of
Speaker 1: mock drafts have the Arkansas receiver going to the Cardinals
Speaker 1: man physical specimen, and then he was physical about his
Speaker 1: play like he was one of the guys you know
Speaker 1: in that game. Early on, you know, you could see
Speaker 1: him winning in his matchups, but it was like quick games.
Speaker 1: It was like tall sweeps to him. And then he
Speaker 1: was just running through tackles, you know, from from the
Speaker 1: cornerback of the line packer in fighting for those extra
Speaker 1: yards you know, on plays of that nature. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was a post or a goal. He was
Speaker 1: catching the slants and catching digs and catching quick game
Speaker 1: and then making the plays after the catch. Um. And
Speaker 1: that's always specially unique from that ride receiver position. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to separate, you know and make the play,
Speaker 1: but can you make guys miss you know, and then
Speaker 1: make even bigger play That just makes you elite. And
Speaker 1: I think you know, Trey l and Burt's is elite. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's that you know one two between him
Speaker 1: and Jamison. What are you looking for? Um? He made
Speaker 1: you know, have him because he has that physical statue
Speaker 1: to him that that's gonna wear dB out if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, scrap his chin strap up all games. Mishod.
Speaker 1: Once again, I want to go back to Georgia right
Speaker 1: here in Jordan Davis because Devonte Wyatt is also a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle for Georgia. Their entire defensive line is good
Speaker 1: that much. We do know who would you take Jordan
Speaker 1: Davis or Devonte Wyatt first? Who would you take? Man?
Speaker 1: That's a great um. I like Wyatt Um in the
Speaker 1: two games you know, watching it Bama, it just seems
Speaker 1: like he has a little bit more arranged to him. Um,
Speaker 1: about the same size, but in terms of just sideline
Speaker 1: and sideline and the games that we're playing, Um, he
Speaker 1: was able to sustain a little bit better than Jordan
Speaker 1: Davis was. If you go back to the SEC Championship,
Speaker 1: it seems as though he got tired, um, a little
Speaker 1: bit fatigued. So that maybe something that you may worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, in a season, you know, not playing twelve games.
Speaker 1: Now we're playing, you know, seventeen games, you know, much
Speaker 1: longer season, playoffs, things of that nature. You know, who's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to sustain with that size and that
Speaker 1: weight that Jordan Davis has. Obviously you know he's an
Speaker 1: elite player, we know that. But just in that one
Speaker 1: game when I saw him, you know, not be able
Speaker 1: to finish it, and you know, it seems as though
Speaker 1: he was, you know, tired and not being able to
Speaker 1: make it. It made me question, you know, in a
Speaker 1: longer NFL season, how is he going to be a
Speaker 1: sustaining and even as he can do it for one year,
Speaker 1: can he do it for five and six years? So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to place bed. I'm gonna place it
Speaker 1: on Wyatt. Do you have an opinion on the top
Speaker 1: corner in this draft? Because we saw Derek Stingley LSU
Speaker 1: work out today and he had his forty in between
Speaker 1: four four flat and a four four four, I mean
Speaker 1: his vertical thirty eight and a half. They say his
Speaker 1: freshman season twenty nineteen was just ridiculous in turn, like
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson esque at the college level. But then of
Speaker 1: course you have Sauce Gardner from Cincinnati and Andrew Booth
Speaker 1: from Clemson. And I don't know if you how many
Speaker 1: of these guys you saw in person or if you
Speaker 1: had an opinion on the top corner in this draft. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously got a chance to see Stingley in person, saying
Speaker 1: with soft Gardener as well, and with those two guys, Man,
Speaker 1: if it's me and I'm the defensive back guy, I'm
Speaker 1: all about consistency. M I understand upside and you know, potential,
Speaker 1: and I know people want to talk about those things,
Speaker 1: but for me, like show me the consistency. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bet on that one hundred percent of the time because
Speaker 1: that's what excels at the next level. You know, it's
Speaker 1: being consistent. I don't want a guy that can, you know,
Speaker 1: stop him on this down and then give up a
Speaker 1: big play later on in the game because he's cheating
Speaker 1: with his eyes. That's not my type of dB UM.
Speaker 1: But I think there steely Um does have all the twos.
Speaker 1: You know, in twenty nineteen, like you said, he had
Speaker 1: a tremendous year. I got a chance to see it
Speaker 1: in person, but then I saw the following years not
Speaker 1: as consistent. You know, had a few injuries here and there.
Speaker 1: Um a Sauce Gardner, no touchdown Um, just consistent in
Speaker 1: and out. Maybe they can say the play was a
Speaker 1: little bit less than the different league. But for me,
Speaker 1: someone that can play on the island and do it
Speaker 1: as consistent as you know Gardner did. Um, he has
Speaker 1: to be your top guy. And you know he didn't
Speaker 1: he perform well in the combine. So if it's me,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the sauce Um And you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna double down on it, make it very spicy. That's
Speaker 1: all right, man. So much respect for you, Bro, so
Speaker 1: much respect. Thank for you guys, for you and the
Speaker 1: person you are in the player you were, and the
Speaker 1: analysts you are. Of course, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us, Bro anytime, man, anytime. Looking forward to doing
Speaker 1: in a person next time I'm out that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be great. Absolutely, Thank you for Shot. I
Speaker 1: appreciate I teld your story to a couple of fifteen
Speaker 1: year olds I dropped off at a baseball game earlier today,
Speaker 1: just about how you went from walk on a two
Speaker 1: time team captain in your NFL career. So inspirational in
Speaker 1: so many different ways, and we always enjoy it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for Shot. Anytime, Paul, I can do anything for those guys,
Speaker 1: tell them Holly at mean, you got my number, We'll
Speaker 1: do We'll do. There you go. That's great stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break that down and we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: which positions would be most NFL ready for the Cardinals
Speaker 1: in the draft this year. The Big Red Rage continues
Speaker 1: right after this second down and goal well for the
Speaker 1: Chargers on the eagle too, Herbert under center Kelly the tale,
Speaker 1: but Anderson the full back in the eye rolling to
Speaker 1: the light as Herbert, He's got Anderson of the goal
Speaker 1: line touchdown. He's done a lot of the dirty work
Speaker 1: for this Charger team, a lot of blocking. He's played
Speaker 1: some fullback. He's lined up at fullback on this one.
Speaker 1: Great play baked by Justin Herbert's rolling to the right,
Speaker 1: and it was a race between Anderson and the linebacker
Speaker 1: t J. Edwards, and Anderson won. Ron Wolfley. This is
Speaker 1: about as close as you'll get to a fullback on
Speaker 1: a Cliff Kingsbury roster. You realize that the tight end
Speaker 1: Steven Anderson, former receiver in the Pack twelve tight end
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, five years in the league at six
Speaker 1: three two thirty and really closer to six two two thirty,
Speaker 1: and a guy who has a hybrid or an h
Speaker 1: back has been in the backfield quite a bit. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what Cliff Kingsbury has in mind.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's about as close as you're gonna
Speaker 1: get fulfilling your wish of a fullback in this offense. No,
Speaker 1: you're right about that, PAULI. I was glad to see
Speaker 1: it once again, because I do think it continues to
Speaker 1: point in arrow towards a more physical offense, a more
Speaker 1: traditional offense to some degree. And I don't say that
Speaker 1: is oh boy, look they're going to be running Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray under center. Forty snaps again that this is not
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But Paul, if you look across
Speaker 1: the league, and in particular, I would say, look at
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, the team the Arizona Cardinals are actually
Speaker 1: going to travel to and hold training camp practices with.
Speaker 1: Look at their offense. A lot of it is eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is shotgun, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it is here comes the RPO, and here comes
Speaker 1: his zonn read of course, with Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback.
Speaker 1: And then they mix it, Paul, with twelve personnel and look, everybody,
Speaker 1: there's King Henry. His toes are at seven. What do
Speaker 1: you say we let him attack the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: They'll do it out of a zone scheme, and they'll
Speaker 1: do it out of a gap scheme, which is a
Speaker 1: power scheme, which means you basically pull the uncovered lineman
Speaker 1: down blocks by offensive lineman and then pull the uncover
Speaker 1: word lineman for kickouts. It's a power scheme. It's very
Speaker 1: very physical. I think when you look at Steven Anderson,
Speaker 1: that's exactly an arrow that continues to point towards a
Speaker 1: more physical offense. Baul, Yeah, he gets a one year
Speaker 1: deal around one million dollars reportedly and drew standing on
Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report, Cardinal's former quarterback thirteen years in
Speaker 1: the league. You know, just talked about maybe the flexibility
Speaker 1: that some of these signees, right, some of the free
Speaker 1: agents and the guys they brought back, and what it
Speaker 1: does to maybe create an advantage on offense. You give
Speaker 1: yourself flexibility within personnel group. We say say, hey, we
Speaker 1: gain an advantage here because we really like the fact
Speaker 1: that we can get him on the field versus him,
Speaker 1: or we want this type of defensive personnel on the
Speaker 1: field because they're gonna match. They're gonna stay in nickel
Speaker 1: even if we're in twelve personnel, so they get an
Speaker 1: advantage there, or they stay in base or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So we gained a passive advantage. So it becomes one
Speaker 1: of these things where you just give yourself freedom to
Speaker 1: go down different pass when the time comes. So two
Speaker 1: quick thoughts Number one, maybe the Cardinals is the same.
Speaker 1: We don't want to substitute as much that we want
Speaker 1: to keep some of the same players but be able
Speaker 1: to run a lot of different things out of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe they realize that, you know, this second
Speaker 1: half fate that our offense has suffered the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. Maybe just maybe we were we were showing
Speaker 1: a little too much. It was a little too predictable
Speaker 1: based on some of our personnel groups. You mentioned this
Speaker 1: significance of losing a Max Williams, and when Max is
Speaker 1: on the field, you don't truly know are they going
Speaker 1: to run it? Are they gonna throw it? Because he's
Speaker 1: a dual tight end. So maybe just maybe that's something
Speaker 1: they've identified and they don't want to substitute as much
Speaker 1: because it's too much of a tell. Polly, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, honestly, you're right on it, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why again the Tennessee Titans are
Speaker 1: burtle in rundown situation because of all the twelve personnel,
Speaker 1: one back and two tight ends. I think the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to do the same thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, I suspect that's where what
Speaker 1: they're going to do. Brandon Staley. You know Brandon Staley
Speaker 1: is correct Charger's head coach from a Ram's de coordinator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ding Ding Dinging. You nailed it, Polly, right here, he
Speaker 1: said this. You can't have enough tight ends for me
Speaker 1: because gaps and vertical threats make you a lot more
Speaker 1: challenging to defend. So we're always going to be looking
Speaker 1: for that position. I really value tight ends. I feel
Speaker 1: like from a defensive standpoint, the teams that can play
Speaker 1: with two tight ends and make it look like a
Speaker 1: bunch of other things, that makes it really tough on you.
Speaker 1: So we're always going to be looking for that position
Speaker 1: because I think it gives you an advantage structurally. Polly,
Speaker 1: when you hear Brandon Staley, this defensive savant, when you
Speaker 1: hear him talk about gaps and vertical threats, what he's
Speaker 1: talking about is running the ball in between the tackles
Speaker 1: and then using play action to throw the ball vertically,
Speaker 1: especially over the middle of the field. That's what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. So I think at also, once again, when
Speaker 1: you look at all the pieces that Steve Kim and
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals have gone out and signed bringing them
Speaker 1: back at all points towards that could I also point
Speaker 1: towards Kyle Shanahan, George Kittle and Kyle use check and
Speaker 1: using right and a similar type fashion. And now Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel is going to adopt some of that with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: He went out and he snagged a fullback that he's
Speaker 1: going to use sort of in that h back spot
Speaker 1: as well. So absolutely, now here's the question, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you've checked that box at tight end, what are you
Speaker 1: going to do at receiver? And I want to revisit
Speaker 1: some of what Rasha Johnson told us about a couple
Speaker 1: of those rookie receivers who have been mocked to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But first here's Drew stan red Sea report again just
Speaker 1: why it's challenging to make that sort of impact that
Speaker 1: teams want for some of these rookie receivers. As far
Speaker 1: as wide receiver, that's another tough position to come into
Speaker 1: because you have to be able to identify coverage and
Speaker 1: cliff system. You have to be able to dentify hots
Speaker 1: and sights and all these different aspects that we see
Speaker 1: some of these guys that we've drafted high in the
Speaker 1: past not be able to make that jump right away,
Speaker 1: and some of them are still on the roster. So
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, you're looking for more from him, and he
Speaker 1: Isabella is still on the roster right now. Guys that
Speaker 1: you would love to see kind of step up to
Speaker 1: the plate because it is hard. It's something that's asked
Speaker 1: of you, and it's a thinking portion of it, but
Speaker 1: then there's the physical portion of it. And then when
Speaker 1: those don't align correctly, you're going to struggle. And then
Speaker 1: your conference starts the waiver your reaction to that Wolf
Speaker 1: because I hear that, and I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have to sign another proven, better receiver or two,
Speaker 1: even if they get one of the top guys in
Speaker 1: round one. It's just so uncertain during a rookie receiver's
Speaker 1: initial year. Yeah, now you're right about that, PAULI. It
Speaker 1: really is. We've talked about this. We've had this conversation
Speaker 1: about how difficult it is for a wide receiver to
Speaker 1: walk in to an NFL room and suddenly go out
Speaker 1: and make a difference the Jamar Chases of the world.
Speaker 1: Those are exceptions, Paul Ye Okay, Justin Jeffersons, those are
Speaker 1: once a year. That is, that is not really the
Speaker 1: rule right there at wide receivers. So yeah, you'd love
Speaker 1: to see that, you know what, Polly. Honestly, I wonder
Speaker 1: about a trade right now, especially right now free agency
Speaker 1: and the free agent frenzy is over for the most part,
Speaker 1: and here comes the other still point. Here comes the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft where these two things free agent friends, free
Speaker 1: agent frenzy, and then the draft. Polly, they make things happen.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed this that suddenly they force it in
Speaker 1: certain situations? And I think right now there could be
Speaker 1: a possible trade that Steve Kimes something Steve Kime has
Speaker 1: done very very well with using trades. Is it possible
Speaker 1: that he's eyeballing some of these guys across the league?
Speaker 1: It is definitely possible. Just don't tell me you're giving
Speaker 1: up a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. It's out there.
Speaker 1: I know it's out there. I know what the Texans want.
Speaker 1: Don't give it to him. Don't give up a number
Speaker 1: two pick, a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. And
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to give him the Mondo contract
Speaker 1: because he's going into the final year of his deal.
Speaker 1: You're not going to trade for a guy unless you
Speaker 1: get him under a big contract extension. To me, that
Speaker 1: is just too much. I would rather take my chances
Speaker 1: in a round two type situation on a receiver, because
Speaker 1: have you noticed how exorbitant the price is on receivers
Speaker 1: to get a guy right now on a rookie contract.
Speaker 1: I mean you think a tank of gas is expensive.
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about inflation. Stefan Diggs just got
Speaker 1: four years, ninety six million, seventy million in total guarantees
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, and that's after the Tyreek kill and Davante
Speaker 1: Adam steals. Yeah, PAULI, it is shocking to me that
Speaker 1: you don't like Brandon Cooks. I like him. I just
Speaker 1: don't like to give a round two pick and the contract.
Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, I understand that, but but like how
Speaker 1: much money? He's not a one. He's not a number
Speaker 1: one receiver, Brandon Cooks. He's a number two, maybe a
Speaker 1: one eight if you want to call him that. I
Speaker 1: don't think you a number one. Now. If he's gonna
Speaker 1: want unbelievable money, then I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1: I got no problem. Do you think you can actually
Speaker 1: get Tyler Lockett? For a second round pick. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that one? Now? You're think the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks would be willing to say, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: I let's let by gones be by gones. And you
Speaker 1: know what, that number two pick looks really really good
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you right now, Tyler Lockett over the
Speaker 1: top of DeAndre Hopkins, and I'm sure that the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks are thinking, well, listen, we're not gonna win for
Speaker 1: another three four years, so um yeah, maybe we'll take
Speaker 1: that second round pick and use it. Is that a possibility?
Speaker 1: I doubt it? But but you know what, after what
Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson just told us right the former Cardinal safety
Speaker 1: and Alabama broadcaster earlier here in the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: brought you by Santan Ford and Gilbert on Treylon Burkes.
Speaker 1: By the way, you know that Arkansas receiver six to
Speaker 1: twenty five first team All SEC when he's saying they're
Speaker 1: throwing him slants and digs and short underneath stuff and
Speaker 1: he's just making guys miss out Alabama defenders or running
Speaker 1: through an over him and makes me think of a
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. It makes me think of an AJ Brown.
Speaker 1: He's built that way, yes, or when he told us
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, who is a flat out flyer, This guy
Speaker 1: is just a burner. If you watch the film making
Speaker 1: sec dbs look slow, and he's told us that he's tough,
Speaker 1: he's competitive. Yeah, he's a dog, he's a gunner. He
Speaker 1: got thrown out of a game for getting into it
Speaker 1: with someone, and he has a good versatile roud tree.
Speaker 1: If you're telling me Jamison Williams is all that. Plus
Speaker 1: he's a burner, I know, Polly. I mean honestly, I
Speaker 1: hear everything you're saying right there. There's just one problem.
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen wide receivers not pan out?
Speaker 1: Ye in the NFL. I mean that's the problem. They
Speaker 1: all came out with this kind of pedigree, in this
Speaker 1: kind of oh my goodness, look at this guy. Look
Speaker 1: at this guy play? Um you know I beware, man,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Beware when you look at a
Speaker 1: rookie and start to depend on him to actually come
Speaker 1: through in order for you to win games. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: an upcoming addition to the big Red Rage day Pass
Speaker 1: will join us. He's seen a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: called a lot of their games and you can catch
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Speaker 1: your preferred podcast provider. Get us the latest updates via
Speaker 1: Twitter at Pash pod. All right, we gotta finish it
Speaker 1: up the b NBA standing for blooper or blunder. Next
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage with the new CBA. You
Speaker 1: wan't get so much time to practice, and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna waste to stretching. Like I told him, if the
Speaker 1: Dobeoman jumped out of the car with a gun, your
Speaker 1: ass wouldn't be stretching. Give me you're running. I think
Speaker 1: some of the defensive guys were holding onto their ass.
Speaker 1: You know what are you doing? Coaches? I was taught
Speaker 1: a long time ago, coach him hard and hug him later.
Speaker 1: Rip a guy's ass out there. Just football. There's nothing personal.
Speaker 1: You're just all much football stinks. You're a pretty good guy.
Speaker 1: Thank for y'all for coming to my house. I hope
Speaker 1: you get home set. Oh man, that was a great tone.
Speaker 1: That was a great era of Bruce arians head coach,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal's little best to be a clip there
Speaker 1: from our Jim Amhundro out of his fast archives and
Speaker 1: just the one liners and the dead pans and the
Speaker 1: laughs and Wolf I did not realize to about to
Speaker 1: start the show. You had a chance to reconnect with
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, who is now retired former NFL head coach. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: he's doing really, really well. Had the opportunity to speak
Speaker 1: to Bruce today. He said he lost fifty pounds. You
Speaker 1: could see it at the press conference, could you, Polly.
Speaker 1: I did not see that. No, Yeah, he lost a
Speaker 1: lot of weight. You could see it in his face.
Speaker 1: I mean he's still not good looking at all, but
Speaker 1: you can see in his face he lost an awful
Speaker 1: lot of way, Polly. And by the way, I asked
Speaker 1: him at the end of the conversation if he still
Speaker 1: would have cut me, and he said yes. And you
Speaker 1: know it. So you probably didn't have time to get
Speaker 1: into how he asked you to speak to the rookies
Speaker 1: his first year and we were never invited back. In fact,
Speaker 1: we don't have time to get into that. But you
Speaker 1: did ask about Larry Fitzgerald. What was the headline from
Speaker 1: the fitz Angle. Yeah, you know, I just said, hey, listen, um,
Speaker 1: did you try to get Larry Fitzgerald to go and
Speaker 1: play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we're both laughing
Speaker 1: and he said yes. He said. There was a little
Speaker 1: pause and he said yeah, and why not when you
Speaker 1: think about it. The guys were retired, you know, supposedly
Speaker 1: at Lace. You know, he's not playing football. He picked
Speaker 1: up the phone. He said, I had to call him
Speaker 1: just to see if he was interested in possibly doing it.
Speaker 1: And he said that Larry told him that he had
Speaker 1: he couldn't run two plays back to back or something
Speaker 1: like that. That's what he told me. So speaking to
Speaker 1: the phone and Bruce Arians Drew Stanton, here's his story
Speaker 1: from the Red Sea Report for your former head coach,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians announcing that he was going to step down
Speaker 1: and Todd Boles is now the head coach. The Buccaneers
Speaker 1: surprised her. Do you know things that maybe the rest
Speaker 1: of us don't know? No, I was completely surprised. How
Speaker 1: much time do we have here? So make sure I
Speaker 1: don't go over it because I had a complete blunder
Speaker 1: of like why you don't text in a hurry? And
Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay sharing this because obviously Bea and are close,
Speaker 1: but I had no idea and I'm walking out the
Speaker 1: door and I missed a call from AQ Shipley and
Speaker 1: I text them back. I was like, Hey, what's going
Speaker 1: on in Tampa. I was like, I'm headed to my
Speaker 1: son's baseball game. I saw BA retired. I was like,
Speaker 1: Tom didn't force this, did he? And I go to
Speaker 1: the baseball game. After the game, I get a text
Speaker 1: from BA and he said, hey kid, it's me. Now.
Speaker 1: He didn't force it. He's like, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: do in my own terms. And I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you talk about day Blunder, I said, be a text
Speaker 1: on retirement saying did Tom force you to retire? Not quite? Well,
Speaker 1: Belichick to Brian Flores. But but I mean Drew Stanton
Speaker 1: thought he was texting Aq Shipley with just a straightforward
Speaker 1: did Tom oust him? And instead he was sending that
Speaker 1: to Bruce Arians himself. Yeah? Awkward, old man, that is
Speaker 1: awkward right there, Paul, No God about him. Man, That
Speaker 1: is good stuff from Drew. Drew stand but Paul, it was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome to catch up with him. He's doing
Speaker 1: very very well. You know what else is awesome. I'll
Speaker 1: just stuck this in before we wrap with this edition
Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage. You see the headline at
Speaker 1: NFL Dot com today and I quote strongest position group
Speaker 1: in the draft question mark, and the answer is edge defender. Edge.
Speaker 1: That's true, man, if that's true, or you can admit
Speaker 1: they say there's like fifteen twenty guys that can come
Speaker 1: off the edge in this draft. I mean we started
Speaker 1: with a rhetorical question, we'll end with one. Do the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are on wipefully need an edge rusher? You
Speaker 1: know what, Paul, Yes, this is the great thing about it.
Speaker 1: But I would say this, man, if there's a wide
Speaker 1: receiver there, Paul at number twenty three that you really
Speaker 1: really like, Oh, that's not a bad way to go.
Speaker 1: Maybe even a corner at twenty three, that's not a
Speaker 1: bad way to go, Paul. You could get that edge
Speaker 1: guy in the second round. If there's that many guys,
Speaker 1: that many guys that could come off the edge and
Speaker 1: advanced Joe of defense. Oh yeah, man, I'm dealing with that, Paul.
Speaker 1: I'll go wide receiver first, and that edge you know
Speaker 1: my guy you want to hear my guy mayage rusher
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in round two? Yeah, Nick Benito, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: you know I heard about this guy. Man, he's been
Speaker 1: mocked out to the Cardinals a couple of times. Right now,
Speaker 1: What do you know about him, Paul Well, His Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus grates are off the chart. His pass rush
Speaker 1: win rate was number one in two twenty one of
Speaker 1: any pass rusher, and it's the highest marksin's two nineteen,
Speaker 1: and if you go back to two thou sixteen, he's
Speaker 1: top five. The other guys are Miles Garrett and the
Speaker 1: Bosa brothers. It's ridiculous his production and just how he
Speaker 1: grates out. We could call him Nick Finito. Oh I
Speaker 1: love that. Okay, here we go. Special thanks for Shan Johnson.
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