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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: What's some from your storage history? That's anything about who

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Speaker 2: you are? With you too right now.

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Speaker 3: It's something that I definitely have up and it is

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Speaker 3: for sure a real thing that I don't need to

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Speaker 3: stall or scroll for because I do remember, as a

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Speaker 3: very constant guest of this podcast that I know exactly

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Speaker 3: what you're gonna ask, and so I don't need to

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Speaker 3: scroll and scroll and scroll all past history. I don't

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Speaker 3: need to hack into anything. I know what's up when

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Speaker 3: I really TDS, just I really only you work or

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Speaker 3: look up Real Housewives. Lord, that's insane.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest, Lord? You looked up?

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to see if Vicky Gone Wilson actually

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Speaker 3: sells insurance.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, VICKI I watch.

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Speaker 3: I'm a completionist. I watch each Real Housewives franchise from

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Speaker 3: the beginning. I watch it all through because it's like

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Speaker 3: a time capsule for like bad like quality film, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like I watch it all the

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Speaker 3: way through. I'm in season nine of the Real Housewives,

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Speaker 3: and it's at this point that I'm like, wait, it's

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Speaker 3: her job real, you know. And so that's what I did.

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Speaker 3: That's why I looked at her job. I looked up, like,

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Speaker 3: what happens to the men they divorced? Which I feel

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Speaker 3: like with the animals, they probably just put them down.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what happened to don don ascrave of old

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Speaker 3: divorced men and dogs that don't show up anymore?

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and like toy poodles and miniature

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Speaker 2: started if you have the money, just so you know,

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Speaker 2: she just received she was to the Advisor's Excel Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame for some for fucking financial So she's I

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Speaker 2: don't know, other fucking people who do the ship that

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Speaker 2: she does are big in her up I have, I

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Speaker 2: don't know whatever.

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Speaker 4: I like that her fads extra large.

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Speaker 2: It's sick. I don't know what it means, but you're sick.

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Speaker 5: Like podcasts for all of us.

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Speaker 2: I want to take. I wish, but even the ones

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Speaker 2: I think I can win, I can't. Okay, uh so

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Speaker 2: we'll have to we'll see. Maybe I'll get an iHeart podcast. Award. Finally,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Apparently they give it to shows that

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Speaker 2: like have huge audiences rather the sickest audience physically well

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Speaker 2: fucking who is out there in physical space doing good,

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Speaker 2: which is I gang, And I give you my own award.

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Speaker 5: Growing Up, grow Up. Everybody in this culture is a

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Speaker 5: baby child person. We really like the privilege of being

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Speaker 5: an American today is the idea of like, I don't

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Speaker 5: wanna like, I don't want to grow up. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to mature. I don't have to change fuck off.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, like, aren't we all miserable? Aren't we exhausted?

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Speaker 5: Like he's so underrated to literally change and grow and

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Speaker 5: evolve in relationship to external stimuli, like I would love

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Speaker 5: to encounter more adults who are fucking emotionally regulated, who

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Speaker 5: like know how to communicate, who are not conflict avoidant,

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Speaker 5: like grow up. I just it is so we talk

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Speaker 5: constantly about therapy, culture, about optimization. Everybody's watching the Kuberman

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Speaker 5: Lab while literally not changing at all. And I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 5: if you can take an ice bath every day, maybe

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Speaker 5: you could also be more emotionally kind to people. Maybe

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Speaker 5: you could grow and be like best jealous.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is I like to do these things

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Speaker 2: because the internal work is too daunting for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just soak an.

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Speaker 5: So you know what, don't talk to people about it,

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Speaker 5: Like that's fine, Like if that's what you want to do,

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Speaker 5: Like don't talk about it, don't influence about it, like

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Speaker 5: go sit in your ibat I bat. But I'm really

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Speaker 5: coming to a point where I'm like, you know what

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Speaker 5: I want to see. I want to see people in

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Speaker 5: my life and in the culture literally changing. Like I

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Speaker 5: want to see someone I don't see them for three

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Speaker 5: years and they come back and I'm like, wow, you

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Speaker 5: really did evolve, Like that's amazing. I think Americans collectively

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Speaker 5: are like we don't ever have to evolve in any way.

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 6: Argument we oh, so what, I'm going to be a

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Speaker 6: dinosaur and then turn into a chicken from dude, nobody

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Speaker 6: calls miles of chicken.

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Speaker 2: No crab.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the point about like therapy culture, like Huberman,

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Speaker 1: It's that there's an old joke about like somebody was

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Speaker 1: to be like more of that exactly, and like I

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Speaker 1: feel like a lot of what people are doing is

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Speaker 1: just like optimizing their productivity of bad vibes. I am

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Speaker 1: off the charge to my ability to produce the selfish,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've talked about this a little bit, but

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Speaker 5: like I write about, my current research is about psychedelics

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Speaker 5: and psychedelic healing and transformation. And I have a friend

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Speaker 5: who said something who works at a wellness institute who said, honestly,

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Speaker 5: I'm very suspicious of the psychedelic renaissance because I know

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Speaker 5: a million people who've been doing LSD therapy for twenty

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Speaker 5: years and they're still total assholes. And like that's like

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Speaker 5: I thought that was such a beautiful statement because I

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Speaker 5: was reminded, like, oh yeah, like the will to actually

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Speaker 5: transform has nothing to do with perform bullshit about optimizing

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Speaker 5: yourself and going to therapy and all of those tools

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Speaker 5: only work if you're actually sincerely doing them in order

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Speaker 5: to evolve. And I think the fact that as a

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Speaker 5: culture we're not able to look at ourselves and be like, wow,

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Speaker 5: we're really bad at actual behavioral change.

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Speaker 2: Look to me.

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Speaker 5: For me, this goes back to like I always say

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Speaker 5: this story, like I remember very very distinctly the first

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Speaker 5: time I went back to therapy in adulthood. I had

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Speaker 5: the first three sessions of this amazing gay ma al

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Speaker 5: therapist and he looked at me. Brian Gill in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 5: If anyone's in DC, you should go. You need a therapist,

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Speaker 5: go to Brian Gil. He said to me something that

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Speaker 5: was so powerful. He said, Wow, you are so smart

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Speaker 5: about your problems and you have so much insight and

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Speaker 5: you do so little action. He's like, you just learned

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Speaker 5: so much about your issues. Yeah, but he's like, when

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Speaker 5: are you going to actually match that with behavioral chang

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Speaker 5: And I that struck me so deep because I was like,

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Speaker 5: that goes against my values to only be thinking about

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Speaker 5: something and not doing something about it. Like, I don't

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Speaker 5: like that idea. And that was the beginning of a

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Speaker 5: huge journey for me where I was like, okay, girl,

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Speaker 5: like it's time for you to have learned to lesson

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Speaker 5: and to actually behave differently. So I think that's underrated.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, Wow, well said you like structure, And.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's because I'm a professor.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do.

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Speaker 5: That's why people should listen to us more often.

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Speaker 2: We actually have a flow a teacher, like a book

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Speaker 2: or something that alan what something you think is overraded.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I don't want to stra up anything here, but

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Speaker 7: and I love and I want to say this with

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Speaker 7: I love Carrie Coon. And I thought the first season

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Speaker 7: was phenomenal. Don't don't the left the leftovers.

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Speaker 2: No, that's okay, the leftovers.

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Speaker 7: I've only I've heard like, oh my god, it's awesome,

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Speaker 7: and like the reviews are great, and the first season

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Speaker 7: is like a perfect season on television.

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Speaker 8: And then there's just.

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Speaker 7: A big like literally just a geographical like they they

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Speaker 7: just move locations in the second season, and my like,

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Speaker 7: I I like, I.

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Speaker 8: Stopped watching it. I'm kind of a master to be

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Speaker 7: I did a lot of people that that can speak

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Speaker 2: Really liked it.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know, maybe I was busy at like

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Speaker 7: I'm right there with you. It got way too boring, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I thought you were gonna say guilded Age

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Speaker 2: That's the that was the joke I was going for

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Speaker 2: but you meant the leftovers. Yeah, you can only see

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Speaker 2: a guy drown himself so many times to cross over,

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Speaker 2: And that was the part I liked.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that was the only part I thought that was

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Speaker 4: the Saving Grace show, like will he drown himself more?

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Speaker 5: More?

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Speaker 2: And this it's refusing. Yeah. I think they did switch

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Speaker 7: What it was too well and also too it's like

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Speaker 7: it kind of is this was just a time when like,

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Speaker 7: So it's like there were a lot of shows where

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Speaker 7: it's like the whole thing was like you don't know

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Speaker 7: what's going on, and it's like no, no, but we

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that's right, I forgot because the second

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Speaker 2: season just goes to that town in Texas, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Industry didn't just come back, I probably would have kept.

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Speaker 8: I was kind of watching it before and and and honestly,

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Speaker 7: It's like the first season. The first season feels very

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Speaker 7: like we're soapy. We've got a a lot of young,

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Speaker 7: hot people. It's like euphoria succession. But then there's an

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Speaker 7: a bottleneck episode. I think it's called White Mischief. I

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Speaker 7: stars like the character Reshie. It basically it's this guy

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Speaker 7: like a nineteen seventies like Cassavetti's movie. Like in this

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Speaker 7: one episode of television, the actor I can't remember the

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Speaker 7: and it's like it's literally it's literally just one of

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Speaker 7: the best like episodes of anything. It stands alone. So

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Speaker 7: I always say, like watch that. If you like that,

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Speaker 7: then give it a shot. But it's you know, it's

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Speaker 7: it's it's prestige. It's that prestige y.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we've got I wonder how I

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Speaker 2: wonder how soon the HBO name is also just gonna

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Speaker 2: get completely fucked over by like oligarchs owning that ship

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Speaker 2: where like they're mean.

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Speaker 8: It already kind of happened and it kind of stood it.

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Speaker 8: So it's like, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it is kind of funny when you're just like.

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Speaker 2: Like when they're like this, there needs to be a

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Speaker 2: new series on HBO called Malania and me know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, And they're like, oh my god, you're using

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Speaker 1: And we're back.

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Speaker 1: Ramsey, you've already given us the celebrity cultures overrated, but

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Speaker 5: Age the fantasy romance plot of heated rivalry. Okay, bad

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Speaker 5: for us, bad for us. I'm sorry. Everybody needs to

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Speaker 5: get their shit together. The idea of pursuing an emotionally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, learning in the world, Chad GPT, phone and social media, addiction,

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Speaker 1: Like writing and watch the Huberman Lab to find out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just continue to prove the haters right. So he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to prove how much good has been done, because

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Speaker 8: Individual things.

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Speaker 9: I could stand here and read it for a week

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Speaker 9: ending wars, in terms.

436
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Speaker 2: Of okay, so low energy. You can tell he's kind

437
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Speaker 2: of like ending.

438
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: He keeps like kind of closing his eyes.

439
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: They keep telling me to say this stuff. Okay, so

440
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: I'll fucking say that part. Then it starts going off

441
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: the rails, like in this part, he begins to like

442
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: cast doubt on like the sincerity of protesters in Minnesota,

443
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: based on how well people were screaming shame at ICE

444
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: agents and they.

445
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 9: Paid, you know, when the wall was shot, and I

446
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 9: felt terribly about that.

447
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: The wall was shot.

448
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 9: I understand both sides of it. But when she was shot,

449
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 9: a woman that was screaming, shame, shame, shame, shame, right,

450
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 9: he said, so loud, like a professional opera singer. She

451
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 9: was so loud, it was so professional. She was Wow,

452
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 9: there was hurt, like, oh my heart's injured. She was

453
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 9: a professional. Just shame shame. She's screaming, shame shap I said,

454
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Speaker 9: that's not a normal per that's that's a professional.

455
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: Okay, so professional, do with anything again, because everything's like

456
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: the outrage is not real because what's.

457
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: Happening is people would disagree with me aren't real. They're

458
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: paid exactly, So then you can't you can't yell shame

459
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: like that will. By the way, that woman's voice was

460
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: quivering with rage, Yeah yeah, yeah, well, which because she

461
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: had just witnessed somebody her neighbor be murdered.

462
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Speaker 5: By the way, the interpretation of this person's statement means nothing.

463
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 5: I mean, this is what I think we've arrived at,

464
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: where like whatever his statement about anything in the world is,

465
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Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter what his interpretation is. If you

466
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Speaker 5: live in a democracy, the people get to say what

467
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 5: they think and what they believe, and if mass groups

468
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 5: of people are saying, we don't like this. It doesn't

469
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Speaker 5: matter whether you thought one protester was fake or not.

470
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't Well, yes, that's beside the point. So I mean,

471
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Speaker 5: that's what's so amazing is the amplifying of these minute

472
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Speaker 5: details that really are like missing the forest for the trees.

473
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Speaker 2: Right. Then he goes on to talk about how the

474
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Speaker 2: binder clip that's holding all of his accomplishment papers together

475
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 2: pinched his singies. But you know what I don't I'm

476
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Speaker 2: a big boy and I don't cry is essentially what

477
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Speaker 2: he says.

478
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 9: Accomplishments And this is something I'm glad my finger wasn't

479
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 9: and that's so good.

480
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Speaker 5: They could have done some damage.

481
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Speaker 9: But you know what, I wouldn't have shown the pain.

482
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Speaker 5: I can't where have we arrived to?

483
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 9: That was this?

484
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: Okay? But I wouldn't have showed the pain. Like when

485
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: I got my shots the other day, I didn't cry.

486
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: The doctor did give me a lollipop.

487
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Speaker 1: It was nice.

488
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: Then again, it.

489
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Speaker 1: Was late year on it buzz late. You're a good

490
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Speaker 1: friend of mine, said very nice things about me.

491
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Speaker 2: Further down the drain, now he just starts meandering, rambling, Oh, well,

492
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: what happened.

493
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: To Sleepy Joe? What happened to the sleepy Joe accusation?

494
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: Well, now he's making fun of his cancer or diagnosis.

495
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Seems to be what Trump has been doing, and people

496
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: are like, Jesus, what the fuck? So this is him?

497
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Now he says something about DC's safe, and now your

498
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: lover isn't going to be killed anymore. I don't love

499
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: her with your loved one, with your lover.

500
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 5: That word coming out of his mouth.

501
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Listen this part.

502
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 9: He just lover's not going to be killed, and they know,

503
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 9: so he can act like a real lover.

504
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: And then what but you can be You.

505
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 9: Can walk right through the middle of the town and

506
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 9: DC is beautiful again too.

507
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: You know, Wow, Amen, your lover is not going to

508
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: be killed anymore, and you can act like real lovers.

509
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: Then he does more racist shit. We don't, We've already

510
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: heard it some all these bad Minnesota He's like, Minnesota

511
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: actually won you lost that straight three times? So again

512
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: miss us with your fake reality, and then wraps the

513
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: whole thing up with an exasperated gesture at his pile

514
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: of papers aka accomplishments to be like I mean like,

515
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 2: well I think he at that point doesn't know what

516
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: to say anymore, but he knows he has this big

517
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: pile of papers to prove how much he's done, and

518
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: this is the most he can get out.

519
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Here's the book, holds.

520
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 8: It up, things we have.

521
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 9: I'm gonna read a few of the samples, but look at.

522
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: This helps it for the microphone.

523
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: That each line is somebody who did that before, and

524
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: it did what to if we have.

525
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 9: The hottest country in the world.

526
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: Throws it up. So yeah, this was the beginning.

527
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: He gets big stuff too, of.

528
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: I think everyone in Davos being like, oh, this guy's

529
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: about to pull up and talk call Greenland, Iceland.

530
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 8: It is.

531
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Speaker 1: There's stuff actually living on the pages, this big stuff.

532
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: Each line and accomplishment give me a corner, Daddy.

533
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever done that before, nobody's ever done what before written,

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Nobody has been this out of sorts and president at

535
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: the same time.

536
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Uh so again, this is like, you know, think all

537
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: part of the slow, slow sort of percolating headlines or

538
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: I guess now because money is at stake, people are like,

539
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: I think this.

540
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Guy's because president, because Wall Street has starting to feel

541
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: the pain, like suddenly there might be some consequences.

542
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, h are tolerance for this level of insanity and incompetence,

543
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 5: like the incapacity to put together a sentence, like the

544
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 5: production of an entire political regime based on random gestures

545
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 5: and exclamatory statement, Like that's so wild to me, right,

546
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: because part of it is that he knows that the

547
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: content doesn't matter. It's a certain kind of performance of

548
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: your great grandfather at the head of the thanksgiving table

549
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 5: being like you just have to respect me because fuck off. Yeah,

550
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: And people are like, we know this is awful and

551
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 5: we hate this, but we will sit quietly and endure,

552
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: you know. And then there are people who are sort

553
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: of like I enjoy this because it means I don't

554
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: have to make sense if the if the most powerful

555
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: person on the planet does not need to make sense,

556
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 5: then the rest of us don't and you don't have

557
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: to explain ourselves. And I think there's a certain kind

558
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: of like almost like erotic fantasy around like yes, like

559
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: I could be this unhinged and I don't have to

560
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: explain myself to anyone, and like it's just it's that's wow.

561
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

562
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the like you were talking about the celebrity culture

563
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: is like part of it is us dreaming of being

564
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: better than other people by assuming and so in this case,

565
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: it's like people are getting out of this seeing him

566
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: go up there and just rambling coherently, and because they're

567
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: I guess insulated from the consequences, they're just like that

568
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good.

569
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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I think that's right. He's well, he's

570
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: like I think, really at this one, he's like the

571
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: peak sort of like manifestation of infallible white male power.

572
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 5: I was just going to say it is about failing

573
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: upward to infinity, but I really do.

574
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: But I think for him to be a white like

575
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: you could only be a white man and be so

576
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: transparently out of sorts, so obviously senile, and no one

577
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: says anything about it, and people say yes, sir, yes, sir.

578
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: You're like, now, that's some shit.

579
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: His continued existence in a position of power is the

580
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: ultimate statement of like, yes, the world done by white

581
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: supremacy to just be like yeah, yeah.

582
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: There are many ironies to this, and one of them

583
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: is is that people who claim to be as supporters

584
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: are obsessed with the American family and the nuclear family

585
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: and having kids, and the very reason that people are

586
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 5: not getting married and not having children and not wanting

587
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 5: to do all of that stuff is because that is

588
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 5: the dominant mode of the masculinity in this country, and

589
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 5: people are like there, you might celebrate that on TV.

590
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: In people's inner personal life, many of the people that

591
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: adore him would never want to sit at a dinner

592
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: table with him, find him absolutely insufferable. The charisma is

593
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: not innate to him. It is what you just said,

594
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: which is that it's appealing to watch someone be this

595
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: unhinged and to be like they still keep winning. Yeah,

596
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: like that's that's almost such a mind fuck to people

597
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: that that's the entertainment is to be like, oh my god.

598
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: And at what point do people collectively say, this is

599
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: now destroying our lives so much that we must put

600
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: a stop to it. And I think our tolerance in

601
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: this country has become almost infinite.

602
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that is crazy. The limit is when it

603
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: affects my stock portfolio, right, really bad, apparently, because it

604
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: wasn't enough when like marginalized people were just tossed to

605
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: the side and being killed and kidnapped. Yeah, it's just

606
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: now because like aus again, everything with America, it's like

607
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: it has to fucking be right, in your face, smashing

608
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: this shit out of your face for the rest of

609
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: America to get it, because it's not enough when the

610
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: people in the margins have warn everybody about it. It's like, well,

611
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: I need to get hit by the train head off

612
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: before you tell me there. I'll believe you then that

613
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: a train was coming.

614
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 5: Well, and also, like, you know what mystifies me, you guys,

615
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: as somebody who studies American culture, like I studied the

616
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: period after World War Two, so like I study the

617
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: Cold War, so much of what's happening now has happened before. Yeah, McCarthyism,

618
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 5: the internment camps for Japanese people, like this. It's not

619
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: like all of this is totally new. There are new

620
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 5: versions of it that are more extreme, that are more

621
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: horrible than whatever. But what fascinates me is the inability

622
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: of Americans, left right and center to simply accept that

623
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: certain policies and ways of doing things are ineffective. One

624
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: could sit in a room with ten people who all

625
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: agree that immigration is a problem and needs to be addressed.

626
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: Is this particular way of doing it effective besides making

627
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 5: people miserable collectively? It's not, because it's not actually about

628
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: solving the problem of immigration. It's about creating a vibe.

629
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: It's about creating a vibe of constant threat and danger.

630
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 5: But so like, to me, the inability of people of

631
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: any political persuasion to just say I get what you're

632
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: trying to do, but I just don't think it works right,

633
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: like like like that is just so mind boggling to me.

634
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: It's so simple to just say this is a not

635
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 5: effective way of accomplishing something.

636
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Unfortunately, like all these people, especially for people who

637
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: say that these ICE agents are correct and these raids

638
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: are necessary, they've used the term immigration to sort of

639
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: mask their just deeper desires for like a white Ethno state.

640
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: The Minneapolis Police Department just came out and was like,

641
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: our off duty officers keep being targeted by ICE and

642
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: all of them have to be people of color. Course, Yeah,

643
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: they're just rolling up on off duty officers with guns

644
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: drawn and saying like, show us your papers, and they're like,

645
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: what papers?

646
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 11: I live.

647
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I've lived here my whole life exactly. And then yeah,

648
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: it's the chief of police that I wish I could

649
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: tell you that this was an isolated incident. If it

650
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: is happening to our officers pains me. To think about

651
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: how many of our community members have been.

652
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: Victims speaking of Overton police, Yeah, speaking of Overton windows

653
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: and the opportunity that presents gods, the cops, man, somebody's

654
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Speaker 2: being your pr team, Like we might be able to

655
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Speaker 2: kind of win hearts and minds back if we kind

656
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: of stand for something. And again, that's never gonna happen,

657
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: because that whole thing is rotten to the core.

658
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back.

659
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: We're going tucks and pop culture. We'll be right back.

660
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Speaker 2: And we're back. So January not typically known for its

661
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: hot new movie releases. In fact, I think it's usually

662
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: like the movie Graveyard is around now in February. So

663
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: color me shocked when I found out that the Chris

664
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: Pratt thriller Mercy is dropping today. I had no fucking

665
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: idea this was a movie until about thirty five minutes ago.

666
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: And now as we do a little bit of a

667
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: dive into it and the story that jam wrote for us,

668
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: we just watched the trailer for this movie, and let

669
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Speaker 2: me just I'll just give you the sort of like

670
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: the quick logley. Set in twenty twenty nine, Pratt plays

671
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: lapd officer Chris Raven Okay, his name is still Chris,

672
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: thank god, who was accused of murdering his wife. His

673
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: trial involves being strapped to an electric chair for ninety

674
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: minutes and arguing his case in front of an AI

675
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: judge played by Rebecca Ferguson. If he doesn't quote present

676
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: evidence that nudges the probability of guilt below ninety two

677
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: percent in the allotted time, he will be fucking electrocuted

678
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: to death. Executed, which sounds like sounds like it sounds

679
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: like a real boring I'm from what I saw on

680
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: the trailer. He's sitting in a chair the whole time.

681
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: But what is cool that we do find out is

682
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: in order to prove his innocence, he gets to search

683
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: all of the available data on Earth. Basically, it's like

684
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: every camera, every text message, fucking anything to prove his innocence.

685
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: But he is strapped to the chair, and he can

686
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: even phone friends like fucking who wants to be a millionaire?

687
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 12: Like?

688
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: He reaches out to his teenage daughter to proclaim his innocence,

689
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: to his AA sponsor and friend in search for answers,

690
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: and even to his police partner to help track down

691
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: The Real Murderer. A few critics have said these are

692
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: some of the helines quotes. It's early in the year,

693
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: but this Chris Pratton dud may just be the worst

694
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: movie of twenty twenty six. Another one, the Daily Beast,

695
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: the worst movie of twenty twenty six is here, and

696
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: it's only January. Here's the fun bit it was. It

697
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: was directed by timour Beck Mambatov, who is the guy

698
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: who produced that ice Cube War of the World's movie.

699
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: On Amazon Oh Wow, which is another fucking movie about

700
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: a dude sitting in a fucking chair looking at.

701
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Computer screens for an hour and a half. Like is

702
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: this this new thing?

703
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: It's a new genre. It's man in room looking at

704
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: screens and it's man, man.

705
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 7: Do you guys remember this is a long time ago,

706
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 7: but there was a really short lived this is like

707
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 7: in the wake of maybe Who Wants to Be a

708
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 7: Millionaire or whatever, like crazy game show Chamber.

709
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 8: I think there was a one called.

710
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 7: Literally the Chair and like you sit in a chair

711
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 7: and I just remember, like and I think they ask

712
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 7: you questions and like but they're like they're doing such

713
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 7: a scary like so like they make it really hot.

714
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: And so it was the chair, yeah, and I just

715
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: remember there.

716
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: Was like I think one of the pictures, one of

717
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 7: the commercials for it was like they're like, what's your

718
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 7: biggest fear? And she's like alligators and then it's just

719
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 7: like an alligator like on a swing, is like swinging

720
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 7: towards this lady in a chair, and it's just like, okay,

721
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 7: well let's give be We made like the thirty rock

722
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 7: version movie of that game show into a reality.

723
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Speaker 2: I remember that was like at the peak absurdity of

724
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: the Fox game shows. Like I was like, yeah, yeah,

725
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: they did like Man versus Beast around that time too.

726
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: It's like how many little people would it take to

727
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: beat an elephant in a tug of war? And you're like, dude,

728
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: way more than what you casted. I'm sorry they got

729
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: wrecked immediately, or like other ones are like uh, they

730
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: had Kobayashi trying hot dogs as a bear classic, so

731
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I love I remember him.

732
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 7: I have like a saying bolt like righting against a

733
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 7: cheetah or like a zebra or something like that, Like yeah,

734
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 7: there's just like racing animals.

735
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: Was it also hosted by John McEnroe. If it wasn't

736
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: what a what a missed up for dude. I think, yeah,

737
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Speaker 2: n dude, Okay, look at this cli get mac and

738
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: Roe out of the boot. I remember there was one

739
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: where like because you're just getting distracted in this chair

740
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: asking being simple Ei. There there's like one clip I

741
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: remember seeing where the chair is vibrating so much that

742
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't even think he's like the vibrations. They're like, sir,

743
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: how many stripes on an American? The chair? The vibrations? Vibrations?

744
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: A fucking game show?

745
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Is this?

746
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 11: You know?

747
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Here, here's a clip I look at. That show is

748
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: actually called The City.

749
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 8: It's back.

750
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 5: He's got fifty six hundred dollars.

751
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: That's the chair.

752
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 12: Red line right, it's gonna drop another five percent. And Doug,

753
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 12: if you redline now, you lose two hundred dollars a seconds.

754
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: The vibrations. Okay, anyway, the show was absolutely dumb, But yeah,

755
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: you're glad.

756
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm so glad someone's clipping that they put it on YouTube.

757
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: People clip the fuck out of those. I was always like, dude,

758
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: you remember man Verse Beast like some of my friends

759
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: in high school and they're like what, and like, we

760
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: fucking watched it at my house, dude, we got together

761
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: to watch this ship. There are plenty of there's dude,

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: there are so many cups of the chair. Oh no,

763
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: this was ABC. I'm sorry, I'm sorry ABC. I didn't

764
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: even comes with a terrible Fox. But this was that

765
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: same era. Nothing mattered. I think this is like, was

766
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: this post nine to eleven? I think, yeah, this feels

767
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: very post nine to eleven anyways, right Cannon, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah,

768
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, yep, exactly. We had to put

769
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: our greatest minds into that. So anyway, this movie honestly

770
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: less interesting than even watching old clips of the game

771
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: show hosted by because for some reason this also this

772
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: movie is being released in three D and imax. Good

773
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: a fucking movie about a guy strapped to a chair

774
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: and be like, I read us and make the line

775
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: go down. What a fucking just an abomination, Well says,

776
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: this is a tax right off.

777
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 7: You got to see it in theaters too, because then

778
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 7: you're also in a chair and so you're kind of

779
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 7: in the stadium. Yeah, yeah, you're kind of held hostage

780
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 7: by this situation.

781
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: And you might you might, you might die after night. Yeah,

782
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: advance sales, Look, it comes out today, so maybe things

783
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: could change, but just from today's looking at the advanced sales,

784
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 2: uh empty, Yeah, but you can see wherever you want

785
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: up and share prognosticators forecasters say what. It may not

786
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: even reach double digits at the box office.

787
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 7: The sever lining of this awful movie is like, maybe

788
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 7: we finally reached peak Chris Pratt, peak Pratt praturation. Yeah yeah,

789
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 7: and we'll kind of get to move on.

790
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the prattissants may be over for the man who's

791
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: just been prattling along for so long. This is really funny, though.

792
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt really took this seriously. He was during the

793
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: media fucking campaign for this, he was selling people he

794
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: almost went method for the role, and he's almost what

795
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: do you mean almost? He said quote I told the

796
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: director to lock me in the chair for real for

797
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: up to fifty minutes at a time. WHOA, So yeah, dude,

798
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: Jackie Chan, you may do your own stunts. Chris Pratt

799
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: does his own sitting, so hold that shits. This is

800
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: what he said how he asked the director to put

801
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: him in the chair for in the in the chair

802
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: for real quote. I thought this would help lend itself

803
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: to the performance and feelings of claustrophobia and being trapped.

804
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: I was sweating, so if my face itched, I couldn't

805
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: scratch it and I couldn't get up. I'm always eager

806
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: to try new things, to be challenged in different ways,

807
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: and maybe give audiences something they might not expect from me,

808
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: like sitting in a chair. So sitting in that chair,

809
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: you know they you know what they should be standing.

810
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: That's not all me, that's not all I do. I

811
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: contained my legs. Yeah, the bed is going to be compelling.

812
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 7: They should have made the chair like a character of

813
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 7: and of itself, and the chair should have had like

814
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 7: a sort of like gruff, sort of like snarky attitude,

815
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 7: or the chair be like, hey, why don't I try?

816
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 7: Why don't I try sitting on your ass for a change,

817
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: or something like that.

818
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, come on, chair. My guilt probability is

819
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: hovering right at ninety two point one percent. If we

820
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: can get a blow two tenths, we're ight of here.

821
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: I don't know, buddy, What I know for sure is

822
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 6: you're guilty at stinking Come on a chair.

823
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: I don't go to your work if fart in your mouth. Okay,

824
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's better than what we just saw.

825
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: To your point, Blake, we watched the trailer. It basically

826
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: sums up the whole film, which is how you know

827
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: it's bad. Also, they're like, look, dude, here it is

828
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: no surprises to check it out. Maybe I don't know.

829
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. The other thing though, too, is that

830
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: Prad also said their role is quote a real departure

831
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: for me because he's quote a homicide detective in the

832
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: near future. Oh, that's definitely a departure because if I

833
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: don't know, if you noticed, Chris Pride is not a

834
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: homicide direct detective in the near future right now. So

835
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: range range range the other thing. And also the character

836
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: is called Chris. What the fuck?

837
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 11: Uh?

838
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 13: Then I think it doesn't have that much range. Yeah,

839
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 13: if you have a different first nahble have no idea.

840
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 13: If you're talking detective detective detective Chris, Chris, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

841
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: This fucking chair, I tell you, no, no, hold on,

842
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: hold on, I haven't even said action. You just start.

843
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 8: That's not that's not the chair. You're just in your

844
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 8: green room.

845
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: It's the chair a method. I told you, I tell

846
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: you so. The other thing, though, too, is the thing

847
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: about the AI judge like the movie could have maybe

848
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: said something about the rush to adopt AI or even

849
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: it's weird ass mischaracterization of like well, crime's out of control. Therefore,

850
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: we just need computers to do summary executions of people

851
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: like we've already have, like we've seen we've talked about

852
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: on the show, like dumb ass legal proceedings that have

853
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: used AI, or like people trying to use like AI,

854
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: like deep fake lawyers and shit. There's a lot you

855
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: could say here, but again, the fucking message apparently is

856
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: that like even though this thing's like I'm innocent and

857
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: you almost fucking killed me, the message is like pro

858
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: AI and like they're sort of like, hey man, human

859
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: and AI, we're pretty similar, huh, and that we both

860
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: are fucking dumb and useless.

861
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 8: We're both bad at our jobs.

862
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and love chairs call it a push. Let's

863
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: call it a push. All right, great? Great, thanks, I'm Chris. Anyway,

864
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: so uh that gang, let me know if you even

865
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: if you maybe do a if you're theater hopping and

866
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: you happen to go in there or maybe it's too

867
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: scary because no one's in the theater, because that is

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Speaker 2: kind of an upsetting way to watch a movie. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Every time I've been in a theater when it's like

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Speaker 2: a big theater and it's kind of empty, it's not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people's like I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit like, what the fuck Yea, I

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Speaker 2: don't really want to fucking go like The fucking Leftovers

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Speaker 2: or some shit. One of the best shows ever with

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Speaker 2: Carrie Kon getting blasted through a bulletproof vest for funsies.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, all Right, that's gonna do it for this week's

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Speaker 1: weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If you like,

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Speaker 1: the show means the world demiles He needs your validation.

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Speaker 9: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.