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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody, and welcome to SB nations National League

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Speaker 1: Playoff Preview, brought to you by T Mobile. I'm John

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Speaker 1: Stoleniz from the Philly site The Good Fight. You can

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at John Stoleness. And coming up,

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Speaker 1: we have got your National League Playoff preview. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about all the teams that are left in

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Speaker 1: pennant now as the regular one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 1: got a couple of great guests joining me to break

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Speaker 1: down everything coming up in the National League Playoffs. We're

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Speaker 1: going to start up Brady klopp for from SB nations

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Speaker 1: giant site mccubby Chronicles. Follow him on Twitter at Brady

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Speaker 1: klopp for NBA. Brady, how's it gone, buddy? Congrats on

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Speaker 1: your Giants.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thank you. It's it's going as well as one

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Speaker 2: would expect for someone who covers a one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seven win team, and that was supposed to win about

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Speaker 2: seventy seven, not one hundred and seven, so hundred.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're gonna get into that because I mean,

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Speaker 1: there that is an incredible story and problem maybe the

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Speaker 1: story in Major League Baseball this year is what the

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Speaker 1: Giants did and as the as the top seed in

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Speaker 1: the National League plaoffs, we're gonna get into all that

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Speaker 1: coming up here in just a minute. I'm also joined

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Speaker 1: by Chris Willis from ESPIA nations Brave site, Talking Chop.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at Chris Underscore Willis. Chris,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, buddy, Congrats to you on your big

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. John, it's going good and getting ready

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Speaker 3: for the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. And again I told the guys before

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Speaker 1: the show that we would spend no fewer than thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes on the Phillies failing to make the playoffs for

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Speaker 1: the first for the tenth straight year, second longest playoffs

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Speaker 1: drout in baseball. So now we will this is this

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Speaker 1: is an odd experience for a Phillies fan to talk

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Speaker 1: and let's dive right in because we have a game.

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Speaker 1: As we are recording this podcast. It's a few hours

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Speaker 1: before the National League Wild Card game starts between the

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Speaker 1: a prediction on this game, and by the time you

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Speaker 1: will either look really smart or really dumb. But it's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating matchup because you've got a one hundred and

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Speaker 1: this year, now in a one game playoff with maybe

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Speaker 1: For a one game playoff, the Dodgers could win one

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Speaker 1: of the game, Brady, what is your take on the

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Speaker 1: one game playoff here? Because I'm sure Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't even care what the win total is.

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Speaker 2: I hate a one game playoff. Baseball is a long

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Speaker 2: Just in terms of actually deciding who was a better team.

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Speaker 2: You play one hundred and sixty two games, you play

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Speaker 2: That's the season. That's one hundred and sixty two excellent

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Speaker 1: In the wild and Chris, obviously, there are some negatives

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Speaker 1: So there's also the argument for the one game playoff

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Speaker 3: It's better than one game. I'd say it's a little

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Speaker 1: Is there something to be said though for it feeling

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Speaker 1: But there's something very exciting and for the casual sports fan.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not for the baseball sports fan, but a actual

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Speaker 3: That's true. You know, it's got that Game seven feel

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Speaker 3: feel to it still, you know. I mean, like Brady said,

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Speaker 1: And I hear that and I think three games would

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Speaker 1: That's for sure, absolutely all right. So let's look at

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Speaker 1: It all comes down to one game against a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: on first blush, Brady, how do you look at this

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Speaker 2: I like the Dodgers. I'm always going to favor the

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Speaker 2: I would not feel comfortable with predicting a Dodgers win

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Speaker 2: Any team can beat any team on any given day.

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Speaker 2: They're probably the best defensive team in baseball. I think

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Speaker 2: So no outcome here would surprise me. But I would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Chris, you're starting pitching matchup, which again always

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Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal pitching matchup. Who do you like? Who

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Speaker 3: In fact, you know I would I'd be I'd lean

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Speaker 3: If the Dodgers hadn't went out and got Max Firs.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's the best one game, big

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Speaker 3: to me, if they need Scherzer to go seven eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, there has been unbelievable since joining the Dodgers too.

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Speaker 1: doesn't quit. There's no there's no easy unless. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers too, so let's uh, now we can talk. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Truthfully, I think the biggest thing that Kapler has done

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Speaker 1: That's what he was supposed to do in Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 1: And you know, you learn a lot through after you're

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Speaker 1: So really, I mean, and Chris, an amazing job by

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Speaker 3: I believe in them. And the biggest thing is is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brandon Crawford, Brandon belt, Buster Posey, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady, how scary a team are the Atlanta Braves

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Speaker 2: I think they're a very scary team. I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: They're they're a team that, you know, if you look

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Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns, Brandon Woodriff, and Freddie Feralta. They don't have

433
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Speaker 1: a whole lot on offense. Willie Adamas was essentially their

434
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Speaker 1: best offensive player all year. You did not have a

435
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: good season from Christian Yelich or Lorenzo Kine or Jackie

436
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Speaker 1: Bradley Jr. These guys that were supposed to be decent

437
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: bats for them in the middle to the back end

438
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: of their starting lineup did not perform at all this year,

439
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Speaker 1: but the starting pitching was so good. Even though the

440
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Speaker 1: Cardinals won all of those games. At the end of

441
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: the season, the Brewers still won that division really comfortably.

442
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Speaker 1: So they had put such a big gap between them

443
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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals and everybody else beside them. It was

444
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Speaker 1: a cake walk for them really in the second half,

445
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Speaker 1: which is nobody's talking about the Brewers right now, because

446
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Dodgers and the Giants, and the

447
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Brewers were great all season long. Brady, we just talked

448
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: about can you believe in the Giants? Can you believe

449
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Speaker 1: in a Brewers team that is extremely heavy with starting

450
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: pitching and can run out three guys that can no

451
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: hit you on any night, but really struggle to score

452
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Speaker 1: runs in today's baseball.

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Speaker 2: I do trust them, And the main reason I trust

454
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Speaker 2: them is that I think having great pitching becomes an

455
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Speaker 2: even bigger advantage in the postseason, when you can shorten

456
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Speaker 2: your roster, when you have so off days that are

457
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: so much more frequent, when you can start testing the

458
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: limits of your pitcher's arms because you know you don't

459
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: need to keep them fresh for the next five or

460
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Speaker 2: six months. The Brewers are a very legitimate team to

461
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Speaker 2: me for that reason that simply they won because of

462
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Speaker 2: people like Corbyn Burns and Brandon Woodroof and Corbyn Burns

463
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Speaker 2: and Brandon Woodroof and Freddie Barlt. They're going to get

464
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Speaker 2: to pitch more frequently now than they did in the

465
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Speaker 2: regular season, which to me means the Brewers should be

466
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Speaker 2: a better team in the postseason than they were in

467
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Speaker 2: the regular season. And even though it's hard to imagine

468
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Speaker 2: a team winning with an offense that often struggled as

469
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Speaker 2: much as theirs did, they won all those games for

470
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Speaker 2: a reason, and in my opinion, they're only going to

471
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Speaker 2: be better now that they're in the postseason. And that's

472
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Speaker 2: a very scary concept. Now. I hesitate to think of

473
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Speaker 2: them going all the way because you do need to

474
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Speaker 2: have the offense to lead you to wins in three

475
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: different serieses in order for them to actually end with

476
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Speaker 2: a trophy. So that's gonna be very hard for them.

477
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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a reason that they're not the

478
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Speaker 2: favorites here, but when you have pitching that good and

479
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: you can tighten your rotation like that, that's a very

480
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: scary baseball team to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Chris, the bullpen is no slouch either. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: you've got Josh had one of the best, one of

483
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: the best closers in baseball. It's always been the mantra

484
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Speaker 1: in the decades and centuries of baseball. Starting pitching in

485
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs, wins championships. That's I think gotten to be

486
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Speaker 1: less the case as time has gone on here over

487
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Speaker 1: the last ten years or so. But that's what they've got.

488
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 1: That is their strength, isn't it.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, And it definitely gives you a chance

490
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Speaker 3: to win. And I mean Atlanta showed that over the

491
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: has showed that over the what the last not the

492
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Speaker 3: recent years. But do you remember those Braves teams over

493
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 3: the nineties. Yeah, they had that same model. And this

494
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: Brewers team kind of kind of reminds me of those

495
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: teams a little bit.

496
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Speaker 1: You know.

497
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Speaker 3: It's the bullpen. Like you said, Uh, Devin Williams that

498
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: him getting hurt, that that's a blow, But it's still

499
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: a good group. Uh, And no doubt. And if you know,

500
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: if if they get a lead and they carry it

501
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Speaker 3: into the late innings, you know it's gonna be a

502
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough task for the Braves. It's

503
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough task for you know, the Dodgers

504
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: or the Giants e that won. So yeah, I think

505
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Speaker 3: the reason a lot of people aren't talking about the

506
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: Brews is, like you said, they didn't have any drama

507
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: down the stretch. They had that division sewed up. You know,

508
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: the Braves and Phillies were still fighting it out, Dodgers

509
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Speaker 3: and Giants went down to the last weekend, Brews were

510
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: sewn up, and you know, and that's uh, I think

511
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Speaker 3: that's one thing they probably enjoyed being overlooked, honestly.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I mean there's the weight of

513
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: expectations is not on them the way it is on

514
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: the Giants of the Dodgers at this point, they also

515
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: have to feel a little bit of an exhale and

516
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: that the and maybe this is not a real thing,

517
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: but uh, the Milwaukee Bucks having won the NBA Championship,

518
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Speaker 1: the the the and of carrying a city that does

519
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: not have any you know, major sports championships on their

520
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: back that's gone. So you know, that can add some

521
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: pressure to a team. And I mean that's a silly

522
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: thing to talk about, but that can absolutely be a

523
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: thing when a city is depending on you to break

524
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: a long championship drought, you know, they can breathe a

525
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: little bit easier knowing that, well, the city associated a

526
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: little bit with having had the Bucks win win the championship.

527
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: And maybe that's not a real thing, but it kind

528
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: of feels like a thing to me. But we'll make

529
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Speaker 1: predictions on this series and the other series coming up

530
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Speaker 1: after the break, And also coming up after the break,

531
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Speaker 1: we're gonna look at some of the players in the

532
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Speaker 1: National League Playoffs and do a little three way snake draft.

533
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Speaker 1: We're gonna draft our mini fantasy NL Baseball Playoff team

534
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: coming up here in the next few minutes, and which

535
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: franchises most deserves a deep playoff run. All that coming

536
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: up next here on the SB Nation National League Playoff Preview.

537
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Speaker 1: And we're back on the ESP Nation National League Playoff Preview,

538
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Speaker 1: brought to you by T Mobile. I'm joined by Britty

539
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Speaker 1: Klopper from a Kob Kron and Chris Willis of Talking Shop,

540
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go through some of the players in

541
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Speaker 1: this National League tournament field. I mean, it's a it's

542
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: a great group of players. I like the National League

543
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: group of players more than I like the American League

544
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: group of players. I think this is a more talented

545
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: and diverse group of players. And what we're gonna do

546
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Speaker 1: is we're gonna do a four round mock draft. You're

547
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: just gonna go four rounds here, So we'll be picking

548
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: twelve players. I'm doing my math right four times three. Yes,

549
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: I graduated from college. We're gonna We're gonna start off,

550
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: and I'll go from from the order on my screen.

551
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: We'll start off with Chris, You'll have the one, number

552
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: one pick. Brady you'll have the two pick. I'll have

553
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: the number three pick, and then we'll snake around so

554
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: I'll have three and four. And if any of you

555
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: have ever played fantasy sports before, you know what I'm

556
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: talking about, so you can ignore all that. So Chris,

557
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: why don't you, why don't you beat us off? Just

558
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick the best players in the National League playoffs,

559
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: starting with you at number one. Here.

560
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: Uh, give me Trey Turner, you know, I mean, we

561
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: were talking about Scherz or Earler, and somehow the Dodgers

562
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 3: get Trey Turner as a as a throw win. And

563
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like he's he ought to be

564
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: talked about it as an MVP candidate more than more

565
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: than he is.

566
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I could never understand why they were disregarding

567
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: him as an MVP candidate simply because he was traded

568
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: at mid season. The argument was, well, nobody traded at

569
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: mid seven season has ever won the MVP. It's dumb.

570
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: Of course he could be the MVP. I never made

571
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: any sense to me. All right, Brady, you're up pick

572
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: number two.

573
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: I'm going Corbyn Burns. I just think I think the

574
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: world of him as a pitcher. He's had such an

575
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: incredible season, and if I'm putting him on the mound

576
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: in any given game, I feel like I got a

577
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: pretty darn good chance of winning that game.

578
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. I mean he's I think I don't

579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: know if he's a National League cy young front runner,

580
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: but if he's not, he's certainly one or two at

581
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: this point. All right, that brings me, It brings it

582
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: over to me here. I think, oh boy, it's uh,

583
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: it's a good group of players here. I got to

584
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: take Max Scherzer, I think in this case, I mean,

585
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: I know he's old, he's been around the block a lot,

586
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: but I think he's got You look for a starting

587
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: pitcher that's going to give you that that postseason experience,

588
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: and Schuurzer got that experience with the Nationals a couple

589
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: of years ago, was dominant for them as they as

590
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: they won the World Series. And I think he's probably,

591
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: outside of Burns, the best starting pitcher in the National

592
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: League plaoffs at this point. So I will go with

593
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer with my number three pick, and then at

594
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: number four, I'll take Mookie Betts. You talk about a

595
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: guy who's kind of flown under the radar this year.

596
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Nobody has really talked much about Bets. He's he hasn't

597
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: had the dominant year that I think he's had in

598
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: years past. Certainly not an MVP candidate, but just is

599
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: one and still one of the most dynamic and talented

600
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: players on the field whenever he plays, and I think

601
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: he I think he's a guy that could have a

602
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: really big postseason series if the Dodgers are able to

603
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: get by the Saint Louis Cardinals in the in the

604
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: wild card game. And again we'll know that by the

605
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: time you all hear this. So I got Surezer and

606
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Betts picking number four and five, Brady, it's back to

607
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: you for pick number.

608
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Now.

609
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: Part of those three and four, you have pick five.

610
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the Giant here.

611
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: I've got to go with the player who's been the

612
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: best player on the team that's been the best team

613
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: this year, and take Brandon Crawford. I think he's He's

614
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: a guy who maybe doesn't do it with as much

615
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: flash as some of the other MVP candidates, but he

616
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: can win you a game with his glove. He can

617
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: win you a game with his bat. He hits righty's

618
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: and lefties both pretty well. He's durable, he can play

619
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: day in and day out. He's has a penchant for

620
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: having some of his best moments come in in the

621
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: biggest games of the season or the postseason. So I'm

622
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: gonna put him in there at shortstop, and I feel

623
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: pretty good, all right.

624
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have had him that high,

625
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: but I appreciate the I appreciate the hometown loyalty, and

626
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: he was the best player on the best team in

627
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: baseball this year, no doubt about it.

628
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: I had to the Giants a little bit.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you, I get you. No, I hear it,

630
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: I hear you, Chris. All right, Now you've got two

631
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: picks here, picks number six and seven.

632
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: All right, I'll take Freddy Freeman. You know, he got

633
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: off to a very slow start for him, a lot

634
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: of bad luck, lot of hard hit balls. You know,

635
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: he's kind of floated through there, but he has been

636
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: a big key into the Braves stretch run. He's back

637
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: to his MVP level. You know, there was a bunch

638
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: of several good, extremely great MVP candidates in the National League.

639
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: I feel like Freeman set the bar pretty high. That's

640
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: one reason he's kind of out of that discussion. Plus

641
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: Austin Riley stole a little bit of a little bit

642
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: of his thunder. And I will take with my next pick,

643
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: I will take let's see, let's go with I'm gonna

644
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: take Max Free. You know, I think he's I think

645
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: he's I'm being a little bit of the homer there.

646
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Third picture off the board, I like it.

647
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: I like it, But I think he's you know, I

648
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: think if the Braves advanced, if they can get out

649
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: of this first round, I think it's gonna be He's

650
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna play a huge, huge part in their success.

651
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: All right, Freeman and freed to Atlanta Braves. Going to

652
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: the Braves, Guy Brady, you got another giant in your pocket?

653
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Are we going somewhere else?

654
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Dodgers, Unfortunately, I think I'm

655
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: gonna go with Julio Riaz here get another picture.

656
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had an amazing year.

657
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: He just had an amazing year. And you know, he's

658
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: one of those players where I feel like he's been

659
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: projected for a few years to have the type of

660
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: year that he had and he's still pretty young. That

661
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: to me, it feels like what he did this year

662
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: is what I think we can expect for him to

663
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: be doing for the next few years.

664
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: That's fair enough. I mean, I remember, cheez, he has

665
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: been a name in baseball for years now, going back

666
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: to like twenty twelve, twenty eleven. I mean just when when,

667
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: I know when, when Cole Hamil's was still on the Phillies,

668
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: there was always like a oh trade trade for Urius

669
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: and the Dodgers would never give up Urius. And now

670
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: he's he's finally just still now emerged as a as

671
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: a dominant starter all these years later, because he was

672
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: so good so young.

673
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: In he only recently turned twenty five.

674
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, still a baby. Unbelievable, all right. I

675
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: can't believe Nolan Arnado lasted this long. But I'm gonna

676
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: take Nolan Arnado here, you know, the best, the best

677
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: third basement in baseball. I have always thought of Ericon

678
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: Nolan Ronado as the closest thing this generation has had

679
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: to Mike Schmidt with the way he is with the glove,

680
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the power that he always provides. I know, you know,

681
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: there was always the Colorado effect on him, but he

682
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: was always a guy that had really good road splits too.

683
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: And we've seen an era in Saint Louis that he's

684
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: still a really good offensive player. And I think he's

685
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: another guy that could could help the Cardinals go on

686
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: a on a deep run if if they were able

687
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: to get by the Dodgers in the wild card game.

688
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take a picture for my for my

689
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: last one, give me Charlie Morton in a big game, man,

690
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I'll take Charlie Moore. I don't know that he's the

691
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: fourth best starter in this group, but if you are

692
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher that has a reputation as a big

693
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: game guy, I kind of want that guy starting base

694
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: ball games for me in the postseason. He did it

695
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: with the Rays last year. He did it with the

696
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Astros before in the in the series against the Phillies

697
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: to in the last week of the season, Charlie Morton

698
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: shut them down. It was really another It was a

699
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: fantastic performance. He's thirty seven, if I'm not mistaken, Chris

700
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: and went over two hundred strikeouts again this year. That's right,

701
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, what an unbelievable talent he is,

702
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: and to do it so late in his career is

703
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: really incredible. So I go, I'll go with Aeronauto and

704
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: Morton to finish off my four picks. Brady, back to

705
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: you for one more.

706
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: I got to finish out with a Giant and go

707
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: with Buster Posey here. I almost went with Max Munsey,

708
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: which would have very much angered the fan base. Max

709
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: Munsey an incredible hitter. But I gotta go with Buster Posey.

710
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: I think, you know, especially since we're having a postseason

711
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: discussion here. You know, Posey's proven to be an incredible

712
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: contributor in the postseason. And the thing that is great

713
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: about Posey when you're dealing with a five or a

714
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: seven game series. Is he gets so much of his

715
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: value from calling games and from framing pitches that you know,

716
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: there are so many MVP candidates where they might go

717
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: over three oh for four to two or three games

718
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: in a row, and they're not going to have an

719
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: impact on your five game series. With Posey, even if

720
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a hit, you know he's going to

721
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: be providing a lot of value just from what he's doing.

722
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Kind of played there, no doubt about it, and really

723
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: an incredible season from him with you know, when you

724
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: think he's on the downside of his career, put up

725
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: just an incredible season for the Giants. So good pick there.

726
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: I like Buster Posey in that spot. All right, Chris,

727
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: you've got the last pick of the draft here. Who

728
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: you finishing up with?

729
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I'll take Corey Seeger. Just what he did in postseason

730
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: last year. Just a big time player. I think he's

731
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: you know, he's he's played well down the stretch. I

732
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: think if the Dodgers advanced too, he's going to be

733
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: a big part, especially now with the months he hurt.

734
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: You know, he's going to have to play a bigger,

735
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: bigger role. So I'm glad to get him with my

736
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: fourth big.

737
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess, so how is is? I think

738
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: I saw something along the lines of Max Months, the

739
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: renowned quick, quick heeler. If the Dodgers are able to

740
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: get past the wild card game, that he would hopefully

741
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: be available relatively soon for Los Angeles, but remains to

742
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: be seen. We'll see how he does sorright, So Chris

743
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: went with Trey Turner, Freddie Freeman, Max Freed, Corey Seeger.

744
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Pretty good start there. Brady went Burns, Crawford, Uius and

745
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Posey and I went sure as her Betts, Aeronado Morton.

746
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: Needless to say, all these guys could have a huge

747
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: impact in the National League plaoffs here over the next

748
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: month or so. All Right, So obviously you've got a

749
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: bunch of teams here in the Dodgers, in the Cardinals,

750
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: the Giants, and the Braves. They've all had recent success, right,

751
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: they've they've had. The Giants won three World Series in

752
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: five years, The Dodgers won the World Series last year,

753
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Saint Louis won the World Series in twenty eleven, and

754
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: the Braves have won four straight Division titles. It's been

755
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: a while since they've won a World Series. And then

756
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: you look at the Milwaukee Brewers, a team that hasn't geez,

757
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know remember the last time Milwaukee and

758
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: they were the Braves, won a title. I don't remember

759
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: what year that was. But obviously the Brewers as a

760
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: franchise have never have never won a World Series, came

761
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: close in nineteen eighty two, weren't able to pull it off.

762
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: Which fan I guess, not fan base, but which franchise

763
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: do you guys think is the most deserving of getting

764
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: to the World Series this year? Brady? Let me let

765
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: me start with you, and let's be honest. Let's be

766
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: honest here.

767
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a huge drought here for the Giants,

768
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: so they're very yeah deserving. Yeah, only only three World

769
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: Series is and rough for the fan base out there

770
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: and in areas there are there are you know, like

771
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: fourth graders that have not experienced a Giant World Series,

772
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: so it's tough stuff out there. Yeah, I'm gonna go

773
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: with Atlanta, to be honest. I mean, I think Milwaukee

774
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: is kind of the easy pick here, but for me,

775
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Atlanta is as an organization, they've done things very well

776
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: for a very long time. They've you know, they've drafted well,

777
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: they've developed well, They've unlike many teams that have had

778
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: World Series droughts, they've spent money, They've done what you

779
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: need to do to have good players. I don't have

780
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: a lot of sympathy for the teams that have long

781
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: playoff droughts because they've been unwilling to spend money on

782
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: good players, unwilling to keep their players. I don't have

783
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: a lot of sympathy for those teams. But but a

784
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: team like Atlanta, they've been consistently in the playoffs most

785
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: years since they last won the World Series. And even

786
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: though it's not the longest rout out there, to me,

787
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: they're a team that's that's done what is needed to

788
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: regularly win a World Series or to regularly compete for

789
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: a World Series. And so I think I think they

790
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: deserve that opportunity here after all these years of putting

791
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: forth a competitive team.

792
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess you look at it. I mean,

793
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: even though they had that long run of National League's

794
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: titles and the Maddox Glavin Smoltziers, they had one championship

795
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: out of that whole mix, and they've had some crushing

796
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: defeats in the playoffs over the last few years too,

797
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: So I get that as a Phillies fan, it hurts

798
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: me a little bit, but I do I will agree

799
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: that the Atlanta fan base has been sneak bitting a

800
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: little bit here in recent seasons. And Chris coming to

801
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: you as a as a guy who covers the Braves,

802
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: is that where you're at as well?

803
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, I'm sure I'm bitting my bias up front,

804
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: but you know, you were talking about a whole city

805
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: with Milwaukee earlier in the Bucks kind of getting the

806
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: Brewers off the off the schneid. You know, we're still

807
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: recovering from a Super Bowl loss that was that was

808
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: still haunts everybody, you know, Georgia Loustin and heartbreaking fashion

809
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: and National Championship game a few years ago. To those

810
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: ninety Braves, I mean the first ones, especially ninety one.

811
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: That's one of the best all time World Series. You know,

812
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: this is a fan base. They've been through a lot

813
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: up and down, ups and downs. You know, I think

814
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: it would it would do wonders for the city. The

815
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: Hawks got everybody excited in the playoffs last year. You know,

816
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: I think, Uh, it's still the Braves. The Braves are

817
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: still the biggest the biggest brand there in my opinion,

818
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: so the whole city will get excited if the Braves

819
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: make a deep run. We saw it a little bit

820
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: last year getting back to the NLCS. But you know,

821
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: it's just always it just seems like, uh, that that

822
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: other shoe drops on Atlanta Sports franchise, and that's that's

823
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: kind of something we'd like to put behind us. So,

824
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: you know, with all due respect to the Brewers, who

825
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: who I don't think have ever won it. Uh, you know,

826
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: I think it's got to be Atlanta.

827
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: No, and Atlanta having having a three to one series

828
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: lead in that uh in that NLCS last year. Am

829
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I remembering that right? Yeah, Braves the Bride had a

830
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: three to one. Yeah, I had a three one NLCS

831
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: series lead last year.

832
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: Thanks for bringing that up, John.

833
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: I just know I was just checking my math is

834
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: all I was doing there. No, it just in the

835
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: infield fly roll game back and uh, you know a

836
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: few years ago was certainly a heartbreak or so, I mean,

837
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm going with the Brewers. I feel

838
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: like this is a Brewers team that I don't think

839
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: has a great shot to get to the World Series.

840
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: But because I think the offense is going to be

841
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: a problem. But I think if you're looking at a franchise,

842
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: I would love to see the Brewers in the World Series.

843
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: I think it would be just cool to see a

844
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: different team in there, a different team in the mix.

845
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: A Brewers franchise that hasn't been to a World Series

846
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty two, like I mentioned before, does not

847
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: have a long history of success. I remember growing up

848
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: watching watching baseball in the late eighties, nineties, two thousands,

849
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the Brewers were an afterthought in baseball. I mean they were,

850
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: they were just kind of there. They were not an

851
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: impact franchise in any way, shape or form. And now

852
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: they are routinely one of the better teams in baseball,

853
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: but have yet to get to the World Series. They

854
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: got close a couple of times, made it to a

855
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: couple nlcs's, but never able to break through. So I

856
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: would say I think the Brewers are the most deserving

857
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: of a deep postseason run here in twenty twenty one.

858
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish up the show with some predictions.

859
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: So again, we don't know as we're recording this if

860
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: the Dodgers where Cardinals are going to win the wild

861
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Speaker 1: Card Game, but we all have picked the Dodgers to

862
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: win that wild card game. Let's say the Dodgers win

863
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: that game and they match up against the Giants. Brady,

864
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you're gonna be losing your mind. First

865
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: of all, the fan base is one of the greatest

866
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: rivalries in Major League Baseball, maybe the greatest rivalry in

867
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball right now. I don't think there's anyone

868
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: that comes close to that. I mean, you could say

869
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Yankees Red Sox, but I think it's more visceral between

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Speaker 1: Giants and Dodgers right now. You look at these two teams,

871
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: a one hundred and seven win team going up against

872
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: a one hundred and five win team in a five

873
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Speaker 1: game postseason series. Wow, who comes out on top in

874
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: a five game series between those two teams?

875
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: This is an impossible question for starting. And I just

876
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: realized too as you were saying that, that we've been

877
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: short selling the Dodgers. Not something that people normally do,

878
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: but it It was actually one hundred and six wins

879
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. I just realized, because only finished one

880
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: game ahead of that, right standing, so virtually equal. You know,

881
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: to me, this is as close of a series as

882
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: you can get. I do think, you know, if I

883
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: can set as in my biases, I do think that

884
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are a better baseball team than the Giants.

885
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 2: You know, their run differential was still pretty comfortably above

886
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: the Giants even if they lost all of one game fewer,

887
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: so I do think they have a slight edge there

888
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: in talent and ability. But the Giants have the home

889
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: field advantage here, which I think is especially big in

890
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: a five game series. So maybe this is my bias showing.

891
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: But between that home field advantage, between the fact that

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: the Giants won the season series even if it was

893
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: just ten to nine, as close as you can get,

894
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know, the Dodgers are without

895
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw and very much might be without Max Munsey,

896
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: even though the Giants are also without Brandon Belt, I'm

897
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: gonna go with the Giants here. I think the home

898
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: field advantage and I think they the way that gave

899
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: capital manages. I think they will greatly benefit from having

900
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: the off days and being able to really rely heavily

901
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: on going to their bullpen early in games if they

902
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: need to, knowing they have those rest days. Is a

903
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: team that won a lot of games with management and

904
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: with pulling the right strings platoons, with pinch hitters, with

905
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: getting the right bullpen matchups, and I think when you

906
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: have those extra off days where you can really use

907
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: players as much as you need to, I think that's

908
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of a benefit that pushes in the Giants' favor.

909
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: So acknowledging that I am extremely biased here and extremely

910
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: excited and scared for potentially the first Giants Dodgers postseason matchup,

911
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the Giants a slight odd slight

912
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: edge here while acknowledging that I do think the Dodgers

913
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: are the better too.

914
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And if it's the Cardinals, I imagine you're also

915
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: taking the Giants absolutely disadvances. Okay, all right, Chris, over

916
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: to you. If it's the Dodgers by five game series

917
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: against the Giants, whore you take in there?

918
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 3: Man, It's almost like a coin flip in a lot

919
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: of ways. I think if you told me this, if

920
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: I asked me this question a week ago, I think

921
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: I would have took the Dodgers. But with Kershaw injury,

922
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: and I'm not real confident that Max months he's going

923
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: to be there either, I'm wouldn't go with Johnson. Probably

924
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: five games and just an epic epics series is the

925
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: way I'm looking at it. You know, I think it

926
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: might come down to that fifth game and it being

927
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: in San Francisco could be the difference.

928
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: And I guess same thing with you. If the Cardinals

929
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: beat the Dodgers in the Wild Card, you're taking the

930
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Giants over the Cardinals as well.

931
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's great.

932
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm the same way I've I think I'm

933
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: going to take the Giants over the Dodgers as well

934
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: in a five game series. Like you guys said, it's

935
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: a It's gonna would be a really unbelievably tight matchup

936
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: between those two teams. And I think for no other

937
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: reason than the Giants have that Pixie dust working once

938
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: again this year. They had it in twenty ten, twenty twelve,

939
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Man, it feels so similar to those seasons.

940
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I just and the Dodgers won the World Series last year.

941
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: They they they got theirs and so I think I think,

942
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: and as a as a again as a Philadelphia sports fan,

943
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: Gabe Kapler having success in the playoffs with twist the

944
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: knife a little bit, which you know, I've come to

945
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: expect in life. So I have the Giants. I have

946
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: the Giants advancing past the first round no matter who

947
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: they played, the Dodgers or the Cardinals. All Right, in

948
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: the other series, Braves Brewers, very interesting matchup, Chris, Can

949
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: your Braves? Can your Braves take the five game series

950
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: against Milwaukee? Will they do it?

951
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: I think they can. You know it's it's gonna be.

952
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: I expect a lot of one run games in this series,

953
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: and with Atlanta's bullpen, that gives me a little bit

954
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: of a pause. But I think their offense is significantly

955
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: better than Milwaukee's, and so I think that's gonna be

956
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: the difference in the series.

957
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: I've got the Braves.

958
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: Braves in they'll steal one in the first two games

959
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: and when the when the series in four, I think

960
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: they can get it done. I think their experience comes

961
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: through and the new additions they have put them over

962
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: the top.

963
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: All right, Brady, how about you Braves Brewers? And in

964
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: how many games?

965
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Brewers here. I just really trust

966
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: that top of the rotation I just as good as

967
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 2: Atlanta's offense is. I just really trust that that Corbyn

968
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: Burns and Brandon Woodriff and Freddie Palta can can really

969
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: shut the door on them. And like Chris said, I

970
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: think they're going to be low scoring games regardless. And

971
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: certainly Atlanta has the offensive edge there, and there's a

972
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: very good chance since Atlanta has good starting pitchers there's

973
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: and Milwaukee has pretty lack luster offensive. I think there

974
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: is a very good chance that Milwaukee just ends up

975
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: not scoring in this series and the Braves take it.

976
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: But having that good at pitching, to me, is just

977
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: such an advantage when you can shorten your rotation. So

978
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Brewers in four.

979
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: And I'll take the Braves in five. Here, I think

980
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: the Braves are a hot team right now. I do

981
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: think the Brewers, having coasted a little bit here towards

982
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: the end of the season, they may not be coming

983
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: in quite as sharp. And I really do think you

984
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: need more of an offense than the Brewers have to

985
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: go on a deep playoff run. So I'll take the Braves.

986
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I think it'll I think it'll go five games. I

987
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: think the Braves will will win in Milwaukee in Game five.

988
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: But I agree with you guys, I think we'll be

989
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: low scoring affairs all right, so real quick, we've got

990
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: about like a minute left. Who represents the National League

991
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: in the World Series this year?

992
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Brady, I gotta go with the Giants. I'm tempted to

993
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: say the Brewers here, to be honest, just be because

994
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: you know, there's a chance that they could end up

995
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: not having to face the Giants or the Dodgers, which

996
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: I think most people agree are the two best teams

997
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: in baseball right now. And if the Cardinals were to

998
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: pull off two upsets, which is unlikely but is still

999
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: certainly a chance, then the Brewers would have a path

1000
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't face either of the one hundred and six

1001
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: or hundred and seven win teams, and that certainly is

1002
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: a thing in their favor. But to me, you know,

1003
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: the Giants one hundred and seven wins, and they have

1004
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: home field advantage throughout here in what I expect to

1005
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: be a very close postseason. I think having that home

1006
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: field advantage gets it done.

1007
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: And San Francisco is a really tough place for opponents

1008
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: to play, and it's become more of a hitters ballpark

1009
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: out in San Francisco this year, which has been pretty

1010
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: interesting to see. All right, Chris, how about you? Who

1011
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: comes out of the National League.

1012
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to say the Giants. You know, if this

1013
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: Braves team had Ronald Acuna Max Soroka, you know, the

1014
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: answer might have been different. But ultimately, I think the

1015
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Giants sort of are the team this year. I think

1016
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: they've got everything going for them. They've got a solid

1017
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: home field advantage, as you just mentioned, and you know,

1018
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: I think I think they're they're the team that's gonna

1019
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: come out of in now.

1020
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: And my prediction, you know what, I'm gonna be a

1021
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: little I'll be a little different. I'll just throw a

1022
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: different monkey wrench in there. Give me the Atlanta Braves.

1023
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I think the Atlanta Braves go to the World Series.

1024
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: I saw a lot I like from them. I think

1025
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: they've got good balance in the starting rotation, and offensively,

1026
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I think they get by the Brewers. And then you know,

1027
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I think I do think the Giants run into a

1028
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a wall with the Atlanta's starting pitching,

1029
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it just seems too easy to

1030
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: pick the Giants, all three of us picking the top

1031
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: seed in the National League. So give me the upset.

1032
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Give me the Braves going to the World Series over

1033
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: the Giants. In a six game series to represent the

1034
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: National League and and win the Pennant get back to

1035
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the World Series. So all right, folks, that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: For this episode, the Espanation National League Playoff Preview brought

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Speaker 1: to you by T Mobile. My thanks to Brady Klopper

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00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Chris Willis for joining me here on the podcast, and

1039
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: we've got an American League playoff preview for you to

1040
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: catch as well, so we'll be breaking down everything in

1041
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: the American League playoffs as well. Make sure you check

1042
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: that out on Google Podcasts, Spotify, wherever it is you

1043
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Thanks everybody for tuning in and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the postseason.