Speaker 1: Oh, I saw Megan Fox who looked so beautiful on
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore and I guess it was a poem she
Speaker 1: wrote or something she wrote. But basically, I've been on
Speaker 1: like relationship talk and self help talk, and like I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of different things about dating and just
Speaker 1: like things are coming through. Maybe because I have a
Speaker 1: dating podcast or I do dating rants, I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot it's coming through. But there was something where
Speaker 1: Drew kind of asked her what her motivation was in
Speaker 1: this piece she had written, and she was basically saying,
Speaker 1: and it sounded like she was talking about her acts.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'm not going to sign anything to her.
Speaker 1: That she fell in love with someone's unrealized potential. Meaning
Speaker 1: often we fall in love with someone's potential, and it's
Speaker 1: not that we just are fixers and we think someone
Speaker 1: can change. It's just like you could see the island
Speaker 1: and you can't imagine not being able to swim to it,
Speaker 1: and some people can't swim to it. So she was
Speaker 1: talking about someone that she had been in a relationship
Speaker 1: with and it just broke her heart that she could
Speaker 1: just see what they could be but it wasn't possible.
Speaker 1: That is a heartbreak. That's heartbreaking, you know, And there
Speaker 1: was nothing negative about the way she said it. It
Speaker 1: was just very relatable. You could fall in love with
Speaker 1: someone and it's not like I said, it's not just
Speaker 1: that you're a fixer. You could just it's just you
Speaker 1: see potential. You know how someone can be, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of like chasing the dragon. You're chasing the dragon.
Speaker 1: You've seen them be a certain way, maybe in a moment,
Speaker 1: maybe in their best light, maybe in the beginning, maybe
Speaker 1: in the honeymoon phase, maybe in the infatuation stage and
Speaker 1: the attraction stage and the sexual pheromones oxytocin stage, and
Speaker 1: then it just like dissolves, and it really is like
Speaker 1: chasing the dragon because you just know you've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's not and you just think that someone's potential is
Speaker 1: to be like that all the time, and people just
Speaker 1: don't have the bandwidth, you know. And then there's the
Speaker 1: whole question. I talk to a lot of people on
Speaker 1: this podcast about a lot of experts about if people
Speaker 1: can change, and they definitely can, but it takes such
Speaker 1: effort and wherewithal to do so. So I did a
Speaker 1: take on Megan Markel today because Apparently she has a
Speaker 1: brand called as Ever that she's partnered with Netflix on
Speaker 1: It was called American Riviera Orchard, which I guess they
Speaker 1: call Santa Barbara or Montecito the American Riviera. And I
Speaker 1: learned from someone on social media that she wasn't able
Speaker 1: to get the intellectual property or the trademark for that
Speaker 1: because it's it's something that is synonymous with that area,
Speaker 1: so you can't own that as a brand. But I
Speaker 1: guess she didn't realize that, and that happens a lot.
Speaker 1: By the way, you guys have to dot your eyes
Speaker 1: and cross your t's. I literally was dealing with HBO
Speaker 1: Max and the show The Big Shot. They we were
Speaker 1: about to launch it and release I think the art
Speaker 1: or the name, and they hadn't secured the IP, but
Speaker 1: I had because I very much think in that way.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Megan Markle hadn't secured the IP. But when
Speaker 1: she told the audience why she changed the name to
Speaker 1: as Ever, it wasn't that story. It was another story,
Speaker 1: just saying it's more aligned with who she is, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And she was in a more no makeup, fresh out
Speaker 1: of bed aesthetic as a reaction to the public thinking
Speaker 1: that her trailer was too glossy and too perfect Alah
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart or real simple. And I think the issue
Speaker 1: I said in a TikTok that the issue is I
Speaker 1: think that they're having an identity crisis because Harry and
Speaker 1: Meghan don't know in a post royal world who they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be to everybody, and they keep listening to
Speaker 1: the audience to try to decide who they are, when
Speaker 1: I think that's a mistake because it to be who
Speaker 1: you intrinsically are. The problem is that the they they
Speaker 1: sort of chee a pet their identity in the sense
Speaker 1: that now they're you know, they they're philanthropists and they're
Speaker 1: doing They did the whole podium tour when they were
Speaker 1: doing their Netflix show and the books, and it was
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of them and that didn't land.
Speaker 1: People didn't like them just going around and accepting awards
Speaker 1: at podiums. And then what happened during the California fires
Speaker 1: and also at another incident, was they showed up somewhere
Speaker 1: to do charity, but it had the energy of showing
Speaker 1: up as royals as like part of a royal duty,
Speaker 1: like just it just had the energy of like Princess
Speaker 1: Diana coming and showing up, but they're no longer royal.
Speaker 1: So it's just not landing because there is a there
Speaker 1: is a suspension of reality and there's a word I'm
Speaker 1: looking for, a term I'm looking for, But the audience
Speaker 1: is not so like let's say it's like someone from
Speaker 1: Jersey Shore or Housewives, or even someone on TikTok who's
Speaker 1: like you've watched become very successful. It could be Alex Cooper,
Speaker 1: could be Alex or Oh, it could be anyone. You're
Speaker 1: kind of watched the trajectory michaelaw the beauty influencer. You
Speaker 1: understand how it happened, like you've watched what's gone on
Speaker 1: in their journey and so you know how they landed here,
Speaker 1: and it feels authentic. I think the problem that people
Speaker 1: have with the Meghan and Harry fame and its identity
Speaker 1: is they haven't really watched any sort of trajectory, Like
Speaker 1: you saw that Meghan was a successful actress on a show,
Speaker 1: or an actress that was on a show on a
Speaker 1: successful show, and I guess she had a website and
Speaker 1: was like a cute young girl. Then you saw her
Speaker 1: as a royal and that made sense. It was like
Speaker 1: a girl that came from you know, that life and
Speaker 1: was really a fairy princess, like whisked into this life
Speaker 1: so amazing, so interesting, and that track. Then them leaving
Speaker 1: was just jarring for everyone, and it was abrupt, and
Speaker 1: it didn't it didn't necessarily flow, and so you would
Speaker 1: think they left that because they wanted some privacy, and
Speaker 1: they didn't. And if they had just gone away and
Speaker 1: been private for a while and re emerged with something new,
Speaker 1: it would have made sense. But what happened was they
Speaker 1: left and did a lot of press about it, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. So it was like you're staying
Speaker 1: in the fame lane, but like not with any actual merit, respectfully,
Speaker 1: Like they weren't doing anything in that time to connect
Speaker 1: the audience with the level of fame. It was like
Speaker 1: you are famous because you are a royal, but now
Speaker 1: you're over here in a different category, and no one
Speaker 1: understands or trusts you in that category, respectfully. When I
Speaker 1: started relief work, it took me a really long time
Speaker 1: to get trust in that category because that wasn't where
Speaker 1: I came from. And even a Jim Carrey when I
Speaker 1: used to go from comedy to a serious role. People
Speaker 1: don't buy it. They don't see you there. You have
Speaker 1: to walk with them and then trust that process. And
Speaker 1: so I feel like it took me a lot of
Speaker 1: begging and working and establishing trust slowly to enter into
Speaker 1: the philanthropic space to be a philanthropist that's credible and
Speaker 1: build that brand. And people just don't trust Megan Markel
Speaker 1: in this brand because we haven't seen what it took
Speaker 1: to get there. So one day people just see a
Speaker 1: glossy kitchen that looks perfect as if she's put in
Speaker 1: the blood, sweat and tears that a Martha Stewart has,
Speaker 1: or even to this point, I guess at Gwyneth Paltrow,
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen her do that. So people resent
Speaker 1: the fact that it's called you were just in the
Speaker 1: royal family, and you were you know, you had fairy
Speaker 1: dust sprinkled all over you to be famous. So you
Speaker 1: get to come in here and decide that you want
Speaker 1: to be the glossed over Martha Stewart. So people weren't
Speaker 1: having it, and then she pivoted because people weren't having
Speaker 1: it to be I'm real and I'm just in the
Speaker 1: backyard with my chickens making jam, and I decided as
Speaker 1: ever is the brand name because that's more authentic to
Speaker 1: me versus I didn't get the intel the ip like
Speaker 1: it just never really fully tracks for many people because
Speaker 1: people weren't involved in the process and they didn't see
Speaker 1: how it went down, and so there's a suspension of
Speaker 1: reality because people just don't buy it. And it's not
Speaker 1: shade or hate, it's just people want to see you
Speaker 1: get somewhere by putting one foot in front of the
Speaker 1: other to arrive at that destination. And it's like Maggie Markle,
Speaker 1: It's like Candyland. You basically got that card and went
Speaker 1: from the very beginning to the end, and that's that
Speaker 1: does happen. But the people resent not seeing steps, so
Speaker 1: they don't buy her at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: and that's she's gonna have to go back and stitch
Speaker 1: that together. And I've gotten into trouble for saying things
Speaker 1: about her at the wrong time. And I said crime
Speaker 1: a River right before the Oprah interview when she talked
Speaker 1: about racism and contemplating suicide, and it certainly didn't land
Speaker 1: because it seemed like I was not compassionate about her
Speaker 1: plight or I didn't believe her or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I think I just was like wow, to be thrust
Speaker 1: into the Royal family and to just like eject so
Speaker 1: quickly in that way. It was never the action, it's
Speaker 1: like anything else. It was never the content, It was
Speaker 1: the delivery. It was never you can want to leave
Speaker 1: the Royal family. It was but how. It was never
Speaker 1: you can do philanthropy or go up on a podium,
Speaker 1: or launch a Netflix show or a book, or tell
Speaker 1: the story. But how. The how is a b The
Speaker 1: how is as important in any story as the why.
Speaker 1: And I think that we understand why Meghan and Harry
Speaker 1: are making the choices they're making. I think that I've
Speaker 1: always questioned the how. I don't I think the people
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five are ill advised because it's a
Speaker 1: new world order. And I think I've said this so
Speaker 1: many times. J Lo has been ill advised because she
Speaker 1: has representation from a former era. They don't work in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Not everybody is a crossover artist, and
Speaker 1: Blake Lively found out the hard way, and so did
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds, that traditional celebrity doesn't land and play the
Speaker 1: same way in twenty twenty five, and the same representatives
Speaker 1: giving the same advice doesn't land. You have to understand
Speaker 1: what goes on now. And Meghan and Harry, she's a
Speaker 1: traditional actress that went into a traditional royal family and
Speaker 1: they're trying to now make that institutional knowledge work in
Speaker 1: a non traditional twenty twenty and it really doesn't land
Speaker 1: because they don't because they're ill advised. That's the truth.
Speaker 1: I would love to advise all of these people. And
Speaker 1: the reason I know that I would be good at
Speaker 1: it is because representatives from all the teams that I've mentioned,
Speaker 1: not Megan's, but have reached out to me because they
Speaker 1: are nervous about my take end or they know that
Speaker 1: I'm spot on and have asked people in common with me,
Speaker 1: like what does she think we should do? Or why
Speaker 1: is she saying this? Like I know that I'm onto
Speaker 1: something with the way that I view these people's choices
Speaker 1: in this new world. Even trumpa Milania are acting very different.
Speaker 1: Even Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, They're all acting different.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty five. It's very different. We are in
Speaker 1: the upside down to the coster, to the conster, to
Speaker 1: the Conster