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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: at the end of an episode. So, James, what are

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Speaker 3: was up pitching the Major League last year, he was like,

435
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Speaker 3: I wanted to throw as hard as I could. I

436
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Speaker 3: wanted to use emotion. I want to intimidate the other

437
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,920
Speaker 3: hit There's like I wanted to go up there and

438
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Speaker 3: like earn my spot, and he's brought that to spring training.

439
00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,680
Speaker 3: Spring training debut, Jose Buddha was like flexing and screaming,

440
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 3: like this is someone who fucking wants a spot, and

441
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,399
Speaker 3: we're going to see Buddha in the rotation like second

442
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Speaker 3: week of April, because the Mets have twelve Games in

443
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Speaker 3: twelve days, while I'm gonna be gallivanting across the Europe.

444
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Speaker 3: Across the Europe, which is kind of funny. It's very

445
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 3: different what the Mets are doing what I'm doing. But

446
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Speaker 3: I'd be interested to see who is actually winning in

447
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 3: this race, or if McGill's just getting it exceeds the

448
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,119
Speaker 3: veteran and because they know Buddha is gonna come up

449
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:29,880
Speaker 3: like a week later.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could definitely be that the veteran

451
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Speaker 1: give him the nod prove to us that you can't

452
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Speaker 1: do it. Kind of thing, like we don't necessarily know

453
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Speaker 1: what Budo truly is yet. Still, even though he looks good,

454
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Speaker 1: we kind of have an idea of what Tyler McGill

455
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Speaker 1: is gonna give us. It's safe and if he sucks,

456
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Speaker 1: you move on to the next guy. It's really that simple.

457
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Speaker 2: But we don't.

458
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Speaker 1: We hope we have this problem all year long. I'd

459
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Speaker 1: love to be like, oh my god, we have too

460
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Speaker 1: many good pictures.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, just any guy you want moved to

462
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,199
Speaker 3: the bullpen could figure it out. Trevor McGill. We saw

463
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Speaker 3: what we said a few times in the show. He's

464
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Speaker 3: like one of the best relievers in baseball that no

465
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Speaker 3: one knows about.

466
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Speaker 2: Guys, He's closer.

467
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be the closer for the Brewers to start

468
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Speaker 3: the year with Devin Williams on the il and he's

469
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,359
Speaker 3: fucking disgusting. He's like everything that McGill is. But you

470
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Speaker 3: put it into one inning. So it's ninety nine fastball

471
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Speaker 3: and I just get breaking off a crazy slider and

472
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Speaker 3: it's like that, Oh, that would be nice if you

473
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,000
Speaker 3: could do that. But if the competition's good, like pressure

474
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,080
Speaker 3: makes Diamonds shat at Large three, it's just you gotta

475
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 3: do shit like this. You want to make good baseball

476
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Speaker 3: team look like I mean like we're gonna want to

477
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Speaker 3: kind of transition a little bit to talking about just

478
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Speaker 3: baseball for like ten minutes, just because I love baseball

479
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 3: and baseball start today. We actually got to watch Raggers

480
00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 3: in baseball. But like you're they were talking about Gavin

481
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Speaker 3: Lux a lot in the broadcast. He had a really

482
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Speaker 3: good game today. He had the hit that wound up

483
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Speaker 3: going through Jake croninworts glove, the weird weird play of

484
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Speaker 3: the day. Shout out to Padres for selling their souls

485
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Speaker 3: against us in twenty twenty two playoffs, but like you

486
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Speaker 3: kind of They talked about the fact that when then

487
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Speaker 3: that Pod Dodgers a few weeks ago told him like, hey,

488
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be short stop anymore, you're moving back

489
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Speaker 3: second base movies coming to short stop. A lot of

490
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Speaker 3: players would taken that as demotion, but he took it like, Okay,

491
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Speaker 3: so my bad is still good enough to be on

492
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Speaker 3: this team. I'm still good enough to be on the

493
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Speaker 3: best team in baseball. Like let's go, Like I now,

494
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 3: I can't let Miguel Vargus or anybody else take the

495
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 3: second base job from me, Like I need this job

496
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Speaker 3: like this, I want to be on the field, like

497
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Speaker 3: I need to do everything I can to stay on

498
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Speaker 3: the field. I think that is hopefully the culture and

499
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Speaker 3: as being built among this mess pitching staff especially.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean even on the offensive side. Like

501
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of pressure right now. And who's

502
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Speaker 1: gonna be getting theoretically this last spot, because we know

503
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Speaker 1: Omar and Nerviez is getting one of them. You know,

504
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: Joey Wendall's getting one of them. We know Tyrone Taylor's

505
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Speaker 1: getting the other. There's kind of then only one spot

506
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Speaker 1: for about what like four ish or five guys in

507
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Speaker 1: terms of or maybe two spots. I guess for four

508
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: or five guys, that being Vientos, who I think is

509
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Speaker 1: making the team. I've got a gut feeling that I

510
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Speaker 1: think he's just gonna make it out of spring. And

511
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Speaker 1: part of that is because GM Manjoy, Luke Voight, and

512
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 1: DJ Stewart have looked about as bad as you possibly can,

513
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Speaker 1: not really hitting the ball hard, not really taking good

514
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Speaker 1: at bats, just kind of looking a little bit overmatched.

515
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Speaker 1: And that was the exact opposite of what we saw

516
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Speaker 1: from DJ Stewart last spring too. So is this something

517
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Speaker 1: that the maybe DJ Stewart got figured out a little

518
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Speaker 1: bit after you saw couple hundred that bats of him

519
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 1: at the major league level? Is the pressure making them crumble?

520
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: It's who's now gonna take this last spot?

521
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,679
Speaker 2: And I truthfully don't know.

522
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: I have no clue it. Jose Glacis, I was.

523
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 2: Thinking that too.

524
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: Like the Mets right now, Stewart, Choy and Void, none

525
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: of them have a banning average above two hundred. And

526
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 3: this is not a batting average podcast, But you need

527
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 3: to get a few hits in spring training if you're

528
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 3: trying to make the team, I think to make it like,

529
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 3: these guys are situation where you probably want to see

530
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Speaker 3: results to do it. So I mean, why not just

531
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Speaker 3: go Uber defense if none of these guys approving it.

532
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: DJ has the option anyway. There's also ironic that last

533
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Speaker 3: season DJ had such a good spring and then he

534
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: went down for months and then he kind of comes

535
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 3: up and he actually hits this year. Now it's a

536
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: bad spring, but he has the option. It's probably gonna

537
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 3: get used. I think he's gonna get sent down because

538
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: he gives nothing on defense anyway, so we probably mean

539
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: and Tyron Taylor has been awesome. Trace Thompson went down

540
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Speaker 3: the last round of cuts too, who was really hot

541
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Speaker 3: to start spring, and I think they're going to keep

542
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Speaker 3: him and hopefully keep him around for outfield death.

543
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Speaker 2: But what.

544
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: Zach Short and Jose Glaciers are both hitting right now, Like,

545
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Speaker 3: give one of them the spots to get a little

546
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Speaker 3: more infield flexibility.

547
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Speaker 2: Jeff can mix it in the outfield. We know that.

548
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Speaker 3: Just let's go defense, defense, defense, defense, pitching because otherwise,

549
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: like not who, I don't I don't really want any

550
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: these guys in their roster the way they're hitting.

551
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Speaker 1: No, like we talked about the pitchers are kind of

552
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: making it tough to figure out who it is. The

553
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: hitters are doing it on the exact opposite of nobody

554
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: is really stepping up. And that's why I think Ventos

555
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: has just given the spot because out of that group

556
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: of guys, I think he's clearly been the best. And

557
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: it's not that he's been yeah incredible by any means,

558
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: like him and Bret Badio had their struggles this spring,

559
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: but they've been better than those guys. They've been players

560
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Speaker 1: that deserve to make this roster out of opening day.

561
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Speaker 1: And yet that Jose Gleasias thing that you brought up

562
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Speaker 1: as well, I agree because you mentioned Jeff McGill ken

563
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Speaker 1: play the outfield, so you don't even really need that

564
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: kind of depth with big quotation marks that DJ Stewart

565
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: could give you as an outfielder, even though we are

566
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Speaker 1: not that comfortable with him out there. No, not really.

567
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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like the messer Davis Stern are either.

568
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Speaker 3: But again in the spring training game today he still

569
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Speaker 3: hit third. I think he didn't want to give him

570
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: the at bats like it can prove it, prove it,

571
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 3: prove it, get a shot, get a shot, get a shot.

572
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Speaker 3: He's just he's not He's not there. He took a

573
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Speaker 3: walk today, which was nice, but he's been strike a lot.

574
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Speaker 3: I think Gi Men Troy three strikeouts and maybe three

575
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: or four at bats today. It's just it looks dead. Yeah,

576
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: Luke Voyd also look horrific. You guys, imagine the guy

577
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: who wore sleeveless jerseys Syracuse last year is not good

578
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: being major league baseball player.

579
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Speaker 2: I literally can't believe it. But I don't know this

580
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: last roster spot.

581
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Speaker 3: I even think this like might be a half of

582
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Speaker 3: a hot take that the Mets might I don't think

583
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be Ji Martinez. I'm sure it's not gonna

584
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Speaker 3: j J Martinez. I mean maybe like five ten percent chance,

585
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: But I could see the Mets being a little bit

586
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: active on the on like the waiver market, the cut market.

587
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: Spring training ends for guys who have options, Guys on

588
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Speaker 3: teams with a lot of bats, teams like the Cardinals,

589
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: teams like the Dodgers, teams like the race who a

590
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: guy like Harold Ramirez, probably he could get cut loose,

591
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: Like that's a guy like just thinking about these fringy

592
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: roster type players who might not have a defensive home,

593
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: but they're much better DH options than what the Mets

594
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: are looking at with spring training right now, because guys

595
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: are always gonna cut loose like this always happens. I

596
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Speaker 3: think this is originally how I the least Garcia was

597
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 3: picked up a couple years and years ago by the Rangers,

598
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 3: an end of end of spring roster cut by the Cardinals.

599
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: So there is gonna be talent on the ball players

600
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: you can develop, and I think the Mets now have

601
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Speaker 3: this flexibility to add someone like that.

602
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I will. We'll pick up there Luke VODs

603
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: and g Manchoys and whoever. They're playing a little bit

604
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: better this spring. And I think again, if they didn't

605
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Speaker 1: have if they didn't send down Trace Thompson already, I

606
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Speaker 1: would have picked him. Honestly.

607
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Speaker 2: He had a great spring, great and I.

608
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Speaker 3: Think he just he's just extraneous with Tyron Taylor and

609
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: Tarront Town is like a better very you know what,

610
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Speaker 3: this might as well do it.

611
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Speaker 1: The team would have really loved Ronnie Mauricio to be

612
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Speaker 1: healthy right now.

613
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Speaker 2: It would have been fucking perfect last player in this rot.

614
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: So that's the part that's so annoying.

615
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Speaker 3: Too. He's just getting reps in the dr and TEI's

616
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Speaker 3: acl and nonsense play, but one good thing cool. We

617
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Speaker 3: wrap up Mets talk here. Brett Baity has actually been hot,

618
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Speaker 3: like something might really be happening here. He's been pulling

619
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Speaker 3: the ball. It's still on the ground a little bit,

620
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Speaker 3: but at least being pulled. But since the beginning of

621
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Speaker 3: March three weeks a games, thirty one played, appearances, three ten,

622
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Speaker 3: three ninety three, five seventeen slash two homers, only three

623
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Speaker 3: walks and four strikeouts. Strikeouts were an issue for Baity

624
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: last year, which is cool. And he's been playing good defense.

625
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: He's been playing back and on the line a little bit.

626
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: Like it seems like all of baseball, the entire game together,

627
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: something could come together for Brett bay at once and

628
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: four balls in play at least a hundred five miles

629
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Speaker 3: an hour leading the team.

630
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we heard from our friend of the podcast,

631
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Speaker 1: Matt Eddie that Batty is a slow starter. It takes

632
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Speaker 1: him a while to get going. And as we know,

633
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: his springs started off a little bit slow. Now he's

634
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of getting into the rid of the things. Hopefully

635
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: that leads into getting into a rhythm during the regular season,

636
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: because boy, oh boy, if we could fix that black

637
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: hole at third base offensively, that does change how this

638
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: team feels at the plate.

639
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: I want to shout out Matt two. For a second,

640
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: I was dming him today. We're in a dynasty league together,

641
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: shout out the Devil's rejects. And he did not keep

642
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: Christian Scott in favor of keeping Brian de la Cruz

643
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: because it's a twenty team league. It's a very deep league,

644
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: so we wanted some major leagues and guaranteed Major League

645
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: play appearances.

646
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: But I had the second.

647
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Speaker 3: My team was tanking, which we're in a big rebuild,

648
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: so I snatched a Christian style up with a second

649
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: overall pick, and the second he dropped, it was like,

650
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna take him. I was like, you're right,

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Speaker 3: and I took him. He was like, I know you're

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Speaker 3: gonna take him. Today he was like, I'm so.

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Speaker 2: Mad I dropped him. I was like, yeah, it should be,

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Speaker 2: so shoutout Matt, but lose today. He looks good, christ

655
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Speaker 2: and then good.

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Speaker 3: National media was talking about fucking good, fucking awesome good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like for a Mett's prospects just don't pitch

658
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Speaker 1: this deep into spring either normally, how many guys even

659
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Speaker 1: across baseball are not going to start the year at

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Speaker 1: the major league level and get to actually start a

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Speaker 1: game for four innings on March twentieth, and.

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Speaker 3: He got the sixty pitches, Like that's someone who's ready

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Speaker 3: to start. Like that, he's stretched out, he's ready to go. Like,

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Speaker 3: I think they're probably looking this guy like, how the

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Speaker 3: fuck are he not?

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Speaker 2: How can he not?

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Speaker 1: Does David Stearns historically? Like can we go back and

668
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Speaker 1: look at some Burwers teams?

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Speaker 2: Brings them up?

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Speaker 1: I know he's a slow guy, but is that is

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Speaker 1: that even with pitching too? Yes, Woodroff, Burns you started

672
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Speaker 1: their careers in the bullpen. Yeah Woodroff, Oh my god, yeah,

673
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Speaker 1: because Woodroff was the twenty eighteen playoff run right where

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Speaker 1: they went to the NLCS and we're like so close

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Speaker 1: to beating the Dodgers and Woodroff started the year in

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Speaker 1: the bullpen, became a starter by the end.

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Speaker 3: God damn it. Fuck he's smart. It's a fucking shame

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Speaker 3: how smart he is.

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Speaker 2: But that works probably.

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Speaker 1: Oh we got we got to talk about that amazing

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Speaker 1: Reddit post about David soon.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we should talk about I'll pull it up

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Speaker 3: right now. It is also the oh my god, this

684
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: is amazing. The funniest thing, too, was that this wasn't

685
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Speaker 3: even in the Mets actual subreddit. This was in There's

686
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Speaker 3: there's two Mets subreddits. There's New York Mets, which is

687
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: the big one has like on a hundred thousand people

688
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Speaker 3: in it, and then there's one that's just Mets that's

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Speaker 3: like twenty thousand, and it's definitely where more of the

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Speaker 3: creatures lie. That's where we get. We get a lot

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Speaker 3: more hate in this subreddit than than the bigger Mets subreddit.

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Speaker 3: People hate us in this one, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: When I tweeted out how Jeff McNeil hitting forth was perfect,

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Speaker 1: and all the people in my replies being like perfect,

695
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Speaker 1: are like, what are you smoking? I'm like, fucking that

696
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: good ship man, because that's what you want to want,

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Speaker 1: jeffcil for all?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: They get taken down?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 3: Where is it?

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Speaker 1: Where is it? Where is it?

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Speaker 2: Where is it?

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Speaker 1: I mean we could just pull up the tweet as

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Speaker 1: well from it.

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Speaker 3: I got I want, I want, I wonder I wanted

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Speaker 3: the real post because the post had some comments that

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Speaker 3: didn't make it on a Twitter that we're fucking unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So this is honestly, I would even be down. We

711
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: need to like do some segments we got have some

712
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: more fun with this. We kind of forgot what it

713
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: was like that fun this podcast because we were in

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Speaker 3: last year. So we're trying to think about more ways

715
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Speaker 3: to have fun again. So maybe like Mets Subbredit post

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Speaker 3: of the week will be funny. I want to show

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Speaker 3: out my boy, Rob Scotch, Plain's guy. He's deep in

718
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Speaker 3: the real Metsubreddit. He holds our water a lot in there.

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Speaker 3: He's a great guy. But on the Mets subbredit, anyone

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Speaker 3: else concerned. David Sterns didn't actually grow up a Mets fan.

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Speaker 2: That's the title.

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Speaker 3: He was asked his favorite player growing up after his

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Speaker 3: press conference and couldn't give an answer. He said he

724
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: sneaked good grammar into Shay as a teenager. With my

725
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: math that means early two thousand's great math. All this

726
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: information is publicly available his birthday with guys. David's lying

727
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Speaker 3: security would never let that happen.

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Speaker 2: Even then.

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Speaker 3: I think I think we have an issue here. It's

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Speaker 3: very possible he's not passionate about the Mets. He went

731
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: to Harvard. That's the Boston area, New York's biggest rival town.

732
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Boston's one of them. It's very possible the culture there

733
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Speaker 3: and the professors played mind games on him as a

734
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: young man and made him resent the Mets. I'm getting

735
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: a stomach ache just thinking about this. And why is

736
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: he always smiling when bad things happen in the Mets.

737
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: I think he's just here the sabotage and torture us.

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Speaker 3: So shout out the happy Explorer six six six, because

739
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: this is this is the fucking Galaxy brain take of

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Speaker 3: the week. And again the comments are amazing, right, It's

741
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Speaker 3: the best. I spent a lot of time on radit

742
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Speaker 3: sh It's hilarious. The first comment was to Charlie Kelly

743
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: clip in the mail room where he has all the

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00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: things and he's playing and he's freaking out yep. And

745
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Speaker 3: then the next one, the most uploaded, I'm not joking.

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Speaker 3: I think you seek professional mental health treatment.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, is this Is this a serious

748
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Speaker 1: post or is this bait? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think there's there is the weird constituency of Mets

750
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Speaker 3: fans that are so deep in the weeds on fucking

751
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: everything that I actually think that it's like seventy thirty

752
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: it's real because there's I think there are Mets fans

753
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: who secretly do hate David Stearns truthfully because they think

754
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Speaker 3: IVY League killing the game analytics, fake fan.

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Speaker 1: He fired Buck Showalter, the greatest manager never put on

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Speaker 1: the Origin blue. So you know, that's that's why you

757
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: gotta hate. He has no respect for Buck, despite Buck

758
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: deserving no respect. He got rid of him. That was

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Speaker 1: his problem. I just the line that got me with

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Speaker 1: two lines. Where he went to Harvard. That's the Boston area,

761
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: new York's biggest rival town. Yeah, shouldn't have gone to

762
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe the best school in the entire country. It's New

763
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: York's rival town city by the way, not even a

764
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Speaker 1: fucking town. And then two, it's very possible the culture

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Speaker 1: there and professors played mind games on him as a

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: young man and made him present the Mets. Why would

767
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: they not make him hate the Yankees if it's Boston,

768
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: why would he hate the Mets. That there's again, this

769
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: is the Pepe Sylvia meme. While over the place, these

770
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: lines aren't connecting at all, but god damn it. This

771
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: is an amazing post.

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Speaker 3: And also, could you imagine the long con from David

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Speaker 3: Stearns if he had spent ten years grueling up through

774
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Speaker 3: the ranks of Baseball, Major League Office, Houston Astros, finally

775
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: got his big break with the Brewers, then to finally

776
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: have connection and relationship with Steve Cohen for about two

777
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: years under the rail everybody forgets to talking about Bob

778
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: Nightingale and Buster one, we're talking about David Stearns the

779
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Mets in early twenty two twenty one, which really got

780
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: swopped under the rug. Incredible fucking tampering by our guy,

781
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: uncle Steve. And then for this to come through would

782
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: be like, now I'm ready to destroy the Mets. That

783
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: kind of discipline, that kind of work ethic for ten

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00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: straight years, working only towards destroying the Mets, who most

785
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: oftentimes do a very okay job destroying themselves, Like it

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00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: would be fucking impressive. That was actually David Stearns's way there.

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Speaker 3: But that was fucking amazing. Good good on you've remembering that.

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Speaker 1: If David Serns did that long play, honestly president of

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Speaker 1: the United States, like he's got the biggest brain of

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Speaker 1: all time. If this was his move, I'd respect him

791
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: more than anybody. He should be leading wars, he should

792
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: be making the biggest decisions that this country could ever make.

793
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Because my god, if if he was doing this for decades,

794
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: trying to just sabotage the team, like you said, that

795
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: does it to themselves. I mean you got to respect

796
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that level of hate. I can't even get there.

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: No, no get there, No one keep an imaginetting there.

798
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: So i mean, maybe should reach out to this person,

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Speaker 3: see see if they can come on the podcast, because

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00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Happy Explorer is six six zero six

801
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: has a lot of stuff to say. Oh wow, oh no,

802
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: this okay. I'm going through his profile right now. So

803
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: he either is one of the greatest satirical artists of

804
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: our generation or he is so deep in these weeds

805
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: and it's so serious because it's all it's all stuff

806
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: talking about Salaka. That's all w f A and subreddit.

807
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: Why South so nasty to his callers. I'm very concerned

808
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: about the afternoon show during baseball season. Cautiki doesn't seem

809
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: to care, pretend to know what baseball is as soon

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00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: as southid this is serious, No, this is this guy's

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00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: all serious, or it could be pure satire, but it'd

812
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: be really deep on the satire. But it's so cool

813
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: when like the kind of ship like this, like because

814
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: these Creature Mets fans like make it to national media

815
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: because we are sick. Ohs, we're the best, Like we're discussing.

816
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think he thinks about the vaccine?

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00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: This guy?

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Speaker 3: I can't like it, cannot like the vaccine lot. It's

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00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: questionable science in that vaccine from Happy Explorer six zero six.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to scroll too far. We'll be

822
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: able to find out.

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00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's all New York sports takes. Once you

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00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: get past the New York sports takes, I'm sure it's

825
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: a lot of I don't even know. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: of like Furri's porn and vaccine truth truth.

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Speaker 1: Is Well, guys, that was a fun episode. Thank you

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Speaker 1: I close it out.

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Speaker 3: Before I close it out, where I want to do

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Speaker 3: like some kind of fan engagement shit. This year I

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Speaker 3: went I went deep in the weeds on fan tracks,

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00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: Like it's a cool customizable fantasy site and I want

857
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Speaker 3: to do home run home run derby pool with Mets

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Speaker 3: fans listeners. There's gonna be two hundred spots in the league,

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Speaker 3: so one night plus Mark and I where it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a rotisserie league technically, but there's only one stat

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Speaker 3: being tracked, and that's home runs. And you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to anyone's gonna be able to get any ten

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Speaker 3: players they want in the whole league. Might make some

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00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: more rules once we started dumming some engagement, but look

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Speaker 3: out on Twitter this weekend or early next week and

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Speaker 3: to start going for that and just see how.

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Speaker 2: Many people can fill it up with them.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a prize at the end of the

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Speaker 3: year for who is the Mets up home run derby king.

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Speaker 1: Yep, and uh yeah, that's it. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching. We'll catch on the next episode.

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Speaker 3: Peace Out, peace Out, See you guys next time.

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