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Speaker 1: April fourth, two thousand and one, Sherry Lynes, my friend

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Speaker 1: and her partner went to Manuel's Tavern for lunch. Now,

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Speaker 1: Manuel's Tavern was the original Zone seven. After lunch, she

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Speaker 1: five Lakewood Terrace, Sherry Lynes was shot and killed. She

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Speaker 1: If I ever introduced her to somebody who didn't know

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Speaker 1: Lines with the Atlanta Police Department, she'd say, I'm a detective.

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Speaker 1: She was very proud of that. Our college was able

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Speaker 1: Criminal Justice Training Lab. I can't help but think Sherry

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Speaker 1: did something I'd never seen before. Sherry was the first

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Speaker 1: still one of the most touching scenes I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: or been a part of in my life. On October

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, twenty eighteen, officer Lindsay Long and her partner

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Speaker 1: were serving an order of protection and as she describes it, quote,

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Speaker 1: shot in the line of duty three times. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Long to Zone seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. I love that intro.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost like, oh, who is she talking about? Oh

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. And I left out all kind

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Speaker 1: to me, that is just so remarkable, instead of saying,

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because and I appreciate you saying that, I

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Speaker 2: and there's this connection there. It's no different than you

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Speaker 1: That's so good. I hope people are really listening to you.

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Speaker 1: I hope they're hearing you, because I want to tell

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Speaker 1: and let's avenge this, let's get in front of her,

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Speaker 2: Listen. I have a story about that, which is funny

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Speaker 2: Oh but I called him back because something said, lindsay

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Speaker 2: And even though that was the case, you know, he

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that day. Let's talk about that

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Speaker 2: Basically, we were there to serve an order of protection

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Speaker 2: there were three things that happened. The first thing that

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Speaker 2: my support hand, my left hand, but there was no

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Speaker 2: gun in my holster.

433
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: So just for people to understand, that's part of training

434
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: that if your strong hand is at a commission, then

435
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: you should be able to cross straw. And now she's

436
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: saying she went to do that and she realizes she

437
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have a weapon.

438
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: After I got hit from that third shot, which caused

439
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: me to fall down, I had three thoughts that went

440
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: through my head. The first thought was I'm paralyzed because

441
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: I couldn't fill my legs temporarily. The next thought was,

442
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: did I just use the bathroom on myself, because you know,

443
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: I had to go before the call and things happened,

444
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: you know when. Yeah, and although my fellow officers will

445
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: come and help me and extract me, they're gonna tease

446
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: me later because that's just how we do, right. And

447
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: then my third thought was obviously, well I had I

448
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: had a fourth thought too, But my third thought was

449
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: my family that they came into my head and I'm like,

450
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: you're gonna go home today. And then all of my

451
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: training from Gwenne County just popped in. I can hear

452
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: and see my instructors clear as day telling me you

453
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: stay in the fight, you get up, you know you

454
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: will go home to day. And I was very inspirational

455
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: at that point to myself and said, bitch, get up,

456
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: because this is not where we die, because if he's

457
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: going to kill me, he's gonna have to work at it.

458
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: And there's gonna be evidence all along the front of

459
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 2: these houses right now. Going back to where now I'm

460
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: cross drawing and trying to get my weapon that isn't there.

461
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: I had such tunnel vision that if I had I

462
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: looked down just a few inches, my gun was laying

463
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: right there in the dirt where I fell, but I

464
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: couldn't see it. And in my mind, I dropped it

465
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: in the house when I got hit in the arm

466
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: the first time. So now I'm doing this little dance

467
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: coming from behind cover. Do I go in the house?

468
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: Do I not? Do I go in the house? And

469
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: sometimes I hate that my body camera actually fell off

470
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: when I hit the ground, because I would have loved

471
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: to have seen that little dance that I was doing

472
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: back and forth. It's funny to me now, you know,

473
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: because I probably did it like two or three times.

474
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: But I was stuck in this ooda loop of what

475
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: do I do? And I would be honest with you,

476
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: the thing that broke me out of that was hearing sirens.

477
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: At that point, I knew what I'm going to take

478
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: two shot arms into what I know was a gunfight, Like,

479
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, what am I going to do? And I

480
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: didn't carry a backup firearm? What am I going to

481
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: do if I come across this guy? I know he

482
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: has a firearm. I don't know where mine is. What

483
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: am I gonna do? Throw myself in him? And so

484
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, lindsay, you gotta tap out.

485
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: You gotta tap out. And the just if I can

486
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: talk about like the timeframe of everything really quickly, from

487
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: the time we walked up to the house to the

488
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: time my body camera hit the ground after that third shot,

489
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: it was two minutes. The shooting itself probably happened in

490
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: under five seconds. And from the time my partner put

491
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: the shooting out on the radio to the time when

492
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: I heard that those sirens, it was about ninety seconds.

493
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I was very grateful for

494
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: the time of day, the day of the week, and

495
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: the location. Time of day was a Monday. We had

496
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: double squads that day that were getting off at three o'clock,

497
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: so we had two squads finishing up calls and heading

498
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: back to the station to leave for the day. We

499
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: were right off of a main road that was heavily patrolled,

500
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: so that first officer that got to me was actually

501
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: sitting at the intersection at the seventy eleven parking lot

502
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: when it came out on the radio, and we were

503
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: down the street from one of one of our substations

504
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: where people were writing reports, eating lunch, and two of

505
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: our special units were housed at the time. So that's

506
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: how they got to us so quickly, and every day

507
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely grateful for that quick response.

508
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: There's a gentleman that has a podcast Surviving the survivor

509
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Joel and his mama has an unbelievable story where when

510
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: she was a little girl, you know, Hitler was taken over.

511
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: So her father was captured and taken to a concentration camp.

512
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Her mama gets her on a train, takes her to

513
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: some church where there's some nuns, gives her to the

514
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: nuns and says, I will be back for her when

515
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I can. She has to leave and you know, try

516
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: to stay safe and alive in order to get paperwork

517
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: so they can get to another country to be safe,

518
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: which takes years. She comes back for her, They do

519
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: take a train, they make their way to safety. They

520
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: eventually make their way, you know, to America. But like

521
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: you you know, the way she looks at this whole thing,

522
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: and this is a direct quote which I love. She says,

523
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: do you know how many miracles had to happen to

524
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: get me here? And that's what I'm hearing. When I

525
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: hear your story, that's a hand of God moment. That's

526
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: a hand of God moment. That's a hand of God moment. Nothing.

527
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: None of these things are accidents to me. All of

528
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: these things, it's a miracle. There were two shifts. There's

529
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: a miracle. He was sitting at seven eleven. It's a

530
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: miracle you were able to move to your right. It's

531
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: a miracle without a weapon, you stayed in the fight.

532
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: I just started going back to church this year. You

533
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: would think after my shooting it would not have taken

534
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: me this long, right.

535
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: But everybody in their own time, sugar, right.

536
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: And what was interesting about that day was when I

537
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: got to the hospital, I kept asking for the contents

538
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: of what was inside of my vest. You know, in

539
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: our vests we have like the chest plate pocket, and

540
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: that's where I would like stick like, you know, my

541
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Miranda card and like extra business cards and stuff like

542
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: that that I didn't want bulging out of my uniform

543
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: shirt pocket. But I had these three prayer cards in

544
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: there that this woman had given me on a stabbing

545
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: that I had worked on public transportation, I think probably

546
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: the year or two before, and she was like the

547
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 2: sweet little old lady, and she had these prayer cards

548
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: that she gave to me after I finished interviewing her.

549
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: And I feel weird about throwing stuff like that away,

550
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: so I just I tucked it into my pocket, in

551
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: my vest, and I just went on. But for some

552
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: reason at the hospital, I kept asking, I said, I

553
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: want the stuff that was in my vest, and so

554
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: everybody's like, why do you need I don't know why

555
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: I need it. I just I wanted it. So finally

556
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: somebody was able to bring it to me. Those three

557
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: prayer cards were still in there. And the funny thing is,

558
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: when I think about it, there were three cards in there,

559
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: and my mind is escaping me right now of what

560
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: each prayer card said. But I got hit three times

561
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: and I got hit all around those cards, both of

562
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: my arms and then my back. But those cards were

563
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: sitting in the middle of my chest, you know, And

564
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: so that, you know, you just you made me think

565
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: about that, and I haven't really thought about it like

566
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: that before. And you're right, and it's probably something I

567
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: should probably lean into a little bit more.

568
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that is a testimony that people

569
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: need to hear in and at a church, because I

570
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: want to tell you, regardless of what your belief system is,

571
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: that is a powerful illustration of whatever higher being there

572
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: may be, whatever you want to call it. I think

573
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: it's important. And I also think you know you if

574
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: you had showed up at church the very next Sunday morning,

575
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: that might have been a reaction out of fear or

576
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: something more than being grateful. Now you're in a place

577
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: of gratitude, and that's completely different. Going Hey, just want

578
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: to say, I do appreciate everything you did that day.

579
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right, And you know what. The

580
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: other thing is that I just thought about this. Actually,

581
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: just this past week at church was so I miss

582
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: work a lot. I've been medically retired since twenty twenty,

583
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: and I get that question a lot. Do you miss it?

584
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: Do you miss it? I understand the state of law

585
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: enforcement isn't what it was before, right, but that doesn't

586
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: mean I don't miss the uniform. I miss going out

587
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: and talking to people every day, helping people. Just the

588
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: camaraderie and just the bond that you have with people.

589
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's kind of been missing. And

590
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: so I was sitting in church last week and I

591
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: was like the first person. I've said this too, but

592
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm missing. So that

593
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: sense of community that you get when you're at church,

594
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: you have that sense of community when you're at work too.

595
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: You know, we have our own vibe going on, our

596
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: own language and our own understanding of things, and you

597
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: can find that at church. And I was like, wow, Like,

598
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I think this is why I enjoy coming. And I've

599
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: probably honestly been to church more this year than I

600
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: probably have. It's that sense of community and camaraderie and

601
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: seeing familiar faces and catching up with people and hey,

602
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: how are you doing? And you know, I think we

603
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: miss a lot of that, and sometimes we have to

604
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: go seek that. I think a lot of us sit

605
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: and think that that type of connection is going to

606
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: come directly to us. But you have to go seek

607
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: that sometimes, and if that situation or environment doesn't work

608
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: for you, go seek another one and see what works

609
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: for you. Because there's there's a lot of different environments

610
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: and groups and unities that we can tap into. You

611
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: just have to find what's right for you.

612
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, how can you be

613
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: in this business for forty years and not burn out? Well,

614
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why because I am surrounded by heroes

615
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: every day. I am surrounded by the people who, when

616
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: horrible things happen, do something about it. I'm surrounded by

617
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: people who are action oriented to say, if somebody needs something,

618
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm here. Whether it's taking a cancer patient lunch because

619
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: you can't get out, or bottle water to the Little

620
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: league game and helping coach them, or serving an order

621
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: of protection, that's the gig. And so for you, I

622
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: don't know what's next, but I do know this, I

623
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: know without a doubt, your next phase is laid out.

624
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: It's on purpose. It's supposed to be what's happening. So

625
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: whether you had to get shot to get you on

626
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: that road, you know, maybe that was the reason, because

627
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't in my heart, I never think that it's

628
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: for nothing. There is no way, lindsay Loan got shot

629
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: three times and survived it for no reason. You have

630
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: a greater purpose, and I think you're right on the

631
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: cusp of figuring out what that is.

632
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: I had a similar conversation just recently with someone because

633
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, again, yes, some people look at my shooting

634
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my god, they're so terrible. That's

635
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: so terrible. Yes, And in a lot of ways it

636
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: is because it affected me, It affected my husband. I

637
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: have two young kids that it affected, and then you

638
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: know obviously my mom, my brothers. And it's a rippling effect, right,

639
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: my first police family back in Georgia as well as

640
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: my police family here. But I don't think we are

641
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: meant to go through pain and not share it. That's

642
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: not meant to. We shouldn't keep it to ourselves, right.

643
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: And I was sitting at a conference two years ago

644
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City. It was the first time me and

645
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: my husband had actually spoken together. It was a cops

646
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: conference concerns of police survivors, and we were sitting I

647
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: love them, and we actually speak for them twice a year,

648
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: doing their toes or their trauma and law enforcement trainings,

649
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: and we do the Injured Officer session. So they have

650
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: a couple that generally speaks and so, but we're sitting

651
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: in the closing keynote and it's a gentleman by the

652
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: name of Paul Butler. He's from South Carolina and phenomenal

653
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: speaker because he's Southern, so when he's speaking, he sounds

654
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: like he's preaching, right, And yes, I definitely felt like

655
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: I was in church. I felt like he was speaking

656
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: directly to me because he was talking about plan and

657
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: purpose and basically, when your plan falls apart, you have

658
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: to fall back on your purpose. And I was in

659
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: such this state of not knowing what my next move was,

660
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: or it was that loss of identity that people talk

661
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: about after you leave law enforcement, and I was like,

662
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: what am I going to do now? I don't like

663
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: when I go to my kid's school and I'm volunteering.

664
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what I used to do. I'm just another

665
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: mom volunteering. They don't know the stuff I've seen at

666
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: work as I'm you know, helping with reading group or

667
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: helping with lunch and stuff like that. And so I'm like,

668
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: what is my next move? And so I told my husband,

669
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: I said, I have to meet him. And I went

670
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: up to him. Afterwards, I introduced myself, told him a

671
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: little bit about me. We exchanged information and we had

672
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: a longer conversation a few days later, and I said,

673
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: this is the space that I'm in. And I said

674
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: that what you said hit me like it hit me hard,

675
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: and falling back on your purpose and I said, it

676
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: took me a little bit, but I have now been

677
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: able to realize that my purpose on this earth is

678
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: to help people, and I can still help people and

679
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: not be in a uniform. I think that was the

680
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: heart artest thing that I had to come to grips

681
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: with is I felt like I had to be in

682
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: a uniform or have that sworn distinction to help people.

683
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: But I can still help people and not have on

684
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: a uniform. And now I'm falling back on my purpose,

685
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: and so I want to talk about that. I want

686
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: to lean into that more because it's important to do that.

687
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: And just like you said, like nothing happens by accident,

688
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, this is how I had to get where

689
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: I am right now to be able to, I guess,

690
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: flourish and see my full potential in this space because

691
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I've always thought, like, man, the stuff that has come

692
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: in my direction in the last almost five years since

693
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: my shooting, were those things always present in my life?

694
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: Or did I not have the capability to see them

695
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: for it?

696
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: On some level, I believe that you knew there was

697
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: something else you were supposed to be doing big or greater.

698
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: I mean, again, I'm not saying I don't want anybody think, well, man,

699
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: Mac is saying God got Lindsey Shawt so she could

700
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: speak to people. I mean, I'm not saying that, and

701
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: I would be the first one to say, you know, hey,

702
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, God, you could have figured out another way

703
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: to give me the same message. Appreciate it, you know.

704
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is I know what's coming

705
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: from it, and He's not going to bring you to

706
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: that moment not to get you somewhere more powerful. Now,

707
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: that's just what I believe.

708
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: And I totally, I totally agree with that. And I

709
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: don't you know, my godmother, who's a very very religious woman,

710
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: when what I told her the same story that I

711
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: told you about the prayer cards, and she says, well,

712
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that was a sign. And I said,

713
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: well maybe, And I said. The other thing is what's

714
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: funny is a month or so before my shooting, I

715
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: was complaining about not seeing my husband and I because

716
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: we worked completely opposite schedules, days and hours working, mom guilt,

717
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: my son crying and holding onto my leg as I

718
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: went out of the door to work in the morning.

719
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I just want to be home

720
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: with my family. And I told my godmother, I said,

721
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: you know, I know, I kind of got what I

722
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: asked for because I've been home for eight months, But

723
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: this isn't how I wanted it, you know. And she says, well,

724
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, when you when you get what you want,

725
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: you know, God gave it to you. And maybe it's

726
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: not in the pretty little bow that you wanted it,

727
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: but he gave it to you. And I said, but

728
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: I feel like there were other ways to maybe get

729
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: my attention, you know, just like what you just said.

730
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: And she said, well, I think he knows some of

731
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: you are hardheaded and so you know, and so again,

732
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: when I look at those types of conversations, you know,

733
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I laugh about him. But it is like a thinking.

734
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: It is a process to think through those types of

735
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: things and connect the dots. And that's why I enjoy

736
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: talking to different people about what I been through, and

737
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: not just this situation but other things that happened in

738
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: my life, but just to kind of connect the dots.

739
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: Even when I talk to my mom about stuff the

740
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: shooting or family or whatever it is, it's like you

741
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: have to get your thoughts outside to really be able

742
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: to process them and be like, oh, okay, this makes sense,

743
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: or I can see how I got to where I

744
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: am right now, and you know to your point earlier,

745
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of miracles and a lot of

746
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: blessings have happened along the way. And I think for me,

747
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: what I've taken from these past five years is it

748
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: is a choice every day to see the positive and stuff.

749
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: I could easily be moping around. I can easily be

750
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: using my shooting and other experiences as an excuse not

751
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: to be doing certain things, but that only harms me.

752
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: You know, that doesn't harm the people, you know, I mean,

753
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: it does harm like my family here in this house.

754
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: But if I'm not doing certain things are being productive.

755
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: But you know, that doesn't benefit anybody, and me keeping

756
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: what happened to me inside it doesn't benefit anybody. I

757
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: want people to share. I want people to get it out.

758
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: I want people to find the resources that are out

759
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: there so that they can get back to what they

760
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: were doing before and just see life in a different way.

761
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: You know, if I wake up and I open my

762
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: eyes and I get up and I'm having a decent morning,

763
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: that's a win for me. I'm not looking for social

764
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: media worthy moments in my life to say that I

765
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: had a good day. I just want to get up

766
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: like I got up this morning. I had another call

767
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: before this. My daughter woke up while I was on

768
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: that call. I told her to you know, I gave

769
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: her the wait a minute finger and she's whispering to me,

770
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: I just want to hug, you know. And I finished

771
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: what I was doing and I went and gave her

772
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: a hug and she gave me a big old hug

773
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: and a big old kiss. Like that's a wind for

774
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: me right there.

775
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great day.

776
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It started off great. You know. She gave

777
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: me just the sweetest hug and she says, she looks

778
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: at me and she says, Mommy, I love you. And

779
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: I was like, baby, I love you too, And not

780
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: that we don't say that a lot, but it was

781
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 2: just it's just a nice way to start your day.

782
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: So little things can turn into big things and just

783
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: that feeling of how you start your day. So, you know,

784
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm definitely in agreeance with you on you know, I'm

785
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: here for a reason. I do have a story to tell,

786
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: and I want other people to get to the point

787
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: where they tell their story and they can wake up

788
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: and say, man, this little thing just brightened my whole day.

789
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: And you know.

790
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: It's so funny because when you think of people that

791
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: are suffering with addiction, the only people that can really

792
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: help them are also suffering with addiction. So in order

793
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: for you to help the people that need to be

794
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: helped the most, in law enforcement, you've got to have

795
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: a story. Well, you can't just say, oh, my gosh,

796
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I was top of my class at the police academy.

797
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: I made sergeant in two weeks. I became lieutenant after

798
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: the first year. I've got all these metals. Nobody wants

799
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: to hear from you, but you getting shot three times

800
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: and surviving it, they can hear you. I don't even

801
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: know how to thank you enough for coming and talking

802
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: to us, because I think your advice people that are

803
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: maybe going through a divorce or a job change, or

804
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: anything that is traumatic and difficult for them, they can

805
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: take your advice. They don't have to be in law

806
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: enforcement to hear what you said. And you said so

807
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: many things that were just remarkable and uplifting for people.

808
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: If I can say anything to your audience about children,

809
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: we don't give children enough credit. And please let's stop

810
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: thinking our children are dumb, because they're not. They feel

811
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: their bodies are a lot more open to feeling than

812
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: we are as adults because we've learned to close ourselves off.

813
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: They feel everything and they can sense everything. And when

814
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: my son saw those two holes in my arm, I

815
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: just told him I broke my arm fight and a

816
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 2: bad guy. He sees those two holes in my upper

817
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: left arm, and he says, are you sure the bad

818
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: guy didn't just shoot you? Four years old? And my

819
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: stomach dropped. I came up with a quick lie. I

820
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: told him I fell on a stick, which was a lie.

821
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: And I talked to my therapist about it, and she says,

822
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: just sit down and have the conversation with him and

823
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: don't add anything crazy in then just answer his questions.

824
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: And that's what we did. And his response to me

825
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: was dull, I told you you got shot, so so

826
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: you know, don't let We shouldn't try to hide things

827
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: from our kids. A lot of people will experience critical

828
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: incidents multiple times throughout their career and they hide half

829
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: of them from their children. Kids are not dumb. They

830
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: know that shift in our personality, that irritability, that ooh,

831
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: maybe we should leave mommy or daddy alone because I

832
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to set them off, today, and

833
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, we've talked it out over the years. My

834
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: son has experienced and some you know, some some anxiety

835
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: issues here and there that we we definitely work through.

836
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: My daughter not as much, but you know, she still

837
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: has a sense of what happened to me. And as

838
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: kids get older, they understand the world themselves and just

839
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: how things work a lot differently, so they're going to

840
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: attach more feelings to it as they have a better

841
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: understanding of what's going on around them. And it's just,

842
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm very blessed to have the support system

843
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: that we have and just to be able to, you know,

844
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: to hold on to our kids and hug them and

845
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: tell them everything is going to be okay. And I'm

846
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: just grateful I get to be home with them, you know,

847
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: between my traveling and take them to school and pick

848
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: them up every day, because you know, I could not

849
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: be here to do all those things. So I'm very

850
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: happy to be here and you know, do things like

851
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: when we finish this, I'm probably gonna have to play

852
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: barbies with my daughter and then play video games with

853
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: my son. But I'm glad that I have the opportunity

854
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: to do that with them.

855
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing, and we are so grateful that

856
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: you are here, y'all. I'm going to end Zone seven

857
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: the way that I always do with a quote. Unfortunately,

858
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: during the most difficult times, you'll probably find your calling.

859
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: When that time comes, don't fight it. Alec Ayarato Badge

860
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Speaker 1: number two sixty five, shot in the line of duty,

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Speaker 1: Bristol Police Department. I had the good fortune of being

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Speaker 1: inducted into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame the

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Speaker 1: same year he did. I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is

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