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Speaker 1: preview five of five for the twenty twenty two NBA season.

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Speaker 1: I'm tas Melis with me are the Bearded one Track Kirby,

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Speaker 1: Friend Lately, and the man making the magic happen. It's

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Speaker 1: j D. Hello, what's up? JD. We've got six more

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Speaker 1: questions for you today, including surprise playoff teams from both conferences,

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Speaker 1: players entering a make or break season, and we'll end

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Speaker 1: it with our finals picks. Of course, we've answered twenty

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Speaker 1: On preview four. There got some answers from the crew,

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Speaker 1: From Charlie knockout a man for all seasons. A couple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a headline on a newspaper though, for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, exactly. Yeah, it's written our puns for us.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder, though, if someone went up to Terrance

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Speaker 3: So I'm saying that because there was you know how

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Speaker 1: that show. All right, let's get into it today because

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Speaker 1: we've got some great questions, starting it off with surprise

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Speaker 1: playoff teams, and we'll start in the Eastern Conference. Lee,

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Speaker 1: who's your surprise playoff team in the East.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think if you to be a surprise team,

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Speaker 3: I think he can already throw out Detroit, Orlando and Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: comes down to the two Homer teams, Chicago or Toronto. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was down in Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Everyone seemed to get injured at some point. Pascal, they're

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Speaker 3: He's not going to pout his way out of Toronto.

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Speaker 3: Has there been a more loved Raptors rookie ever? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, the rapt don't have a Vladimir Guerrero Junior, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's going to be the problem because siakam,

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Speaker 2: doubt about that. But improvement wise, they brought in precious Atchuwa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where one of those cases where you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean the Bulls they have to be

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Speaker 3: I think they need to be. They should be better

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they better make them.

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Speaker 2: They should they better. I mean they should be gunning

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Speaker 1: Appearance, all that draft capital. They gave up everything that

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Speaker 1: they've put into it. They're going forward essentially, but it's

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Speaker 1: the Nets, Bucks, Sixers, and Hawks are the top Fourish teams.

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Speaker 1: Celtics will be up there. They're a five hundred team.

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Speaker 1: Last year they played better than that. They're both their

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Speaker 1: They they should be in that. They're ten games over

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Speaker 1: So that's seven teams I just rolled off there. That's seven,

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Speaker 1: and so you know what, who's in this play in

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Speaker 1: They gotta be gunning for six with everything that they

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Speaker 1: put into this season. So you said the rap you

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Speaker 1: factor with my pick for a surprise playoff team. You

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Speaker 1: I know, I know it's a dumb pick off the bat,

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Speaker 1: but I believe that this team has kind of balanced

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Speaker 1: pretty well for a little run. The fact that Colin

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Speaker 1: Sexton can just go off. He had twenty four points

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Speaker 1: more of that. And then Darius Garland can worry about

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Speaker 3: I mean, Andre Drummond was playing well for them, and

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Speaker 3: that was kind of disappointing because it was like it

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Speaker 3: think they've also got some issues, but Jared Allen addresses

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Speaker 1: Sure, and Evan Mobley is shown in the preseason that

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Speaker 1: So they yeah, backcourt, Hey, you guys play offense the

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Speaker 1: It just kind of lines up for a team that

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Speaker 1: all those teams, and the teams like the Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 1: should be better. So it's kind of fun that we

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers, it feels weird, It feels weird coming

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Speaker 2: So it would be a surprise to me if the

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Speaker 2: Cavs make the playoffs. I think thirty wins for Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be hard to break through

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Speaker 1: let's get to the individual players. Which player enters a

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Speaker 2: passed that up. That's not an untenable situation to be

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Speaker 2: He was kind of pouting down the stretch. Obviously in

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Speaker 2: of Joel Embiid if Simmons isn't playing, is Tobias Harris,

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Speaker 2: who is not a passer. You're gonna see a lot

431
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Speaker 2: on the shoulders of Tyrese Maxi and Seth Curry, firk

432
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: On Cork maz Shake Milton, guys who could easily have

433
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: their limitations shown now that they have to take a

434
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: little bit bigger role there with the Sixers. The Sixers,

435
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: if they're going to be one of the top four

436
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 2: teams in the Eastern Conference, which you would think is

437
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: still a possibility, it's all on Embiid now. He's got

438
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Speaker 2: to be at an MVP level every sea. He's got

439
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: to stay healthy, he's got to be as good in

440
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs as he was during the regular season. A

441
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: lot of times it feels like Embiid slows down over

442
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: the course of an NBA season, especially once he gets

443
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: into the postseason and things get a little bit tougher.

444
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot on Joel Embid's shoulders right now. He

445
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: has got to be a leader for the Philadelphia seventy

446
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: six ers because there's nobody else. There's nobody else who's

447
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: going to be getting the spotlight now. Brett Brown he's

448
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 2: out of here. A new GM, Daryl Morey is in town.

449
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons is out of the picture. I mean he's

450
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: in the picture, but he's not part of the long

451
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: term plans. It comes down to Joel Embiid at this point.

452
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Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see how he handles having to

453
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Speaker 2: carry the entire franchise on his shoulders, though I'm sure

454
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: he's felt that way since you know, a couple of seasons.

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the end of that game where Ben

456
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: Simmons didn't take the easy shot and great tweets going

457
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: around right now of Trey Young in his past, in

458
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Speaker 1: his direction, and yeah, the original tweet is if this

459
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: gets like twenty five times, I'll make Tray Young smaller

460
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: and smaller and smaller. And so when I've heard twenty

461
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: five likes and Trey Young gets smaller and small, Ben

462
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: Simmons had an easy dunk. Yeah, he gave it up

463
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: for a free throw to to Mattie Stabele went for

464
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: one for two. Everything went down the hill from there.

465
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Speaker 1: That worries me because if Ben Simmons isn't around those

466
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Speaker 1: last three and a half minutes where Joel Embiid wasn't

467
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Speaker 1: able to finish the job there in Game seven, I

468
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: think will be a bit of a story this season because,

469
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Speaker 1: as you said, Trey, it's just been hard for Joel

470
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: Andbie to carry a team in the regular season and

471
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Speaker 1: then show up in the playoffs. It just seems like

472
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: he he wears on as games go on, and as

473
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: the season goes on, and as the playoffs go on,

474
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: he needed somebody to give him a hand. And I

475
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Speaker 1: just wonder, as you said, if Ben isn't around and

476
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Tobias have to step up and Seth has to step up.

477
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: Maybe Joel Embiid. Again, if there are old, you know,

478
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: twenty seven year old knees in the league, they're his.

479
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: That's That's just how how it is watching him. Every year.

480
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: He comes out in the first quarter, he comes out

481
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, he is amazing. He does his

482
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: job obviously in the fourth quarter as well. But it's

483
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: it is going to be a lot on his shoulders.

484
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: It does remind me a little bit of the twenty

485
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty playoffs when Ben Simmons was out and Embid had

486
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: to do that. It was just a struggle. So yeah, yeah,

487
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be a That's all we're going to

488
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: be thinking about until Ben Simmons is treated, is what

489
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: is happening with Ben Simmons? What is that? What package

490
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: is coming back for Ben to help out Joel?

491
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Joel Embiid has just got to stay on

492
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: the floor too, I guess as much as he can.

493
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they clinched that number one seed last season

494
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: with him only playing fifty one games during the regular

495
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: season out of seventy two. But he had a great season.

496
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: I think Doc Rivers really was able to get through

497
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: to him, like you can be kind of like shack

498
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: down there. No one can really stop you. You're too big,

499
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: too strong, and he's pretty athletic still for a big,

500
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: heavy guy there. So they certainly need regular season MB

501
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 3: to show up for them in the playoffs. And I

502
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: think you make a good point there, Trey, like that

503
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 3: there was enough time for the Sixers to overcome that

504
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons brain fart there underneath the underneath the hoop,

505
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: but they weren't able to do it. Almost like that

506
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: sort of just deflated the whole team. But you can't

507
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: have that mentality in a Game seven at home when

508
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: you've really been in control of the entire series. So

509
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: someone else had to step up, and unfortunately for the

510
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: Sixers it was Trey Young who hit that huge three

511
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: that really set him going. But anyway, yeah, it's it's

512
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: a crazy situation there in Philadelphia because mb'd finished second

513
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: in MVP voting last season, and you know, you know

514
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: that he is a dominant player. But dominance isn't just

515
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: about putting the numbers on the board. You have to

516
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 3: sort of show that leadership and also you know, like

517
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: keep the thing, keep things calm when things get a

518
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 3: little bit stressed, a little bit heavy in those critical moments.

519
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: So that is going to be crucial for MB to

520
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: be able to take that next evolution in his leadership role.

521
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Speaker 1: All right, Lee, who is your make or break player?

522
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: Is it Ben Simmons?

523
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Speaker 4: No, it's no.

524
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Speaker 3: I'm going with Dallas Mavericks Monster, Chris STAPs Porzingis because

525
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: Zingis was very bad in that first round against the

526
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: LA Clippers. In fact, you know, he had three games

527
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: where he scored in double digits or less than double digits,

528
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: I should say, and that really, I mean they needed

529
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: him to step up. He had his highest game was

530
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: twenty points. And the real concern as well is if

531
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 3: Pausingis isn't scoring. And it's understandable if guys aren't going

532
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: to be hot the entire series shooting the ball, but

533
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: he only had one game as well where he had

534
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: more than six rebounds for a game. That's just not

535
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: good enough for me, Like, you need to be out

536
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: there at least doing something else he had. You know,

537
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: whether you're blocking shots, just being a factor. When you're

538
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: seven foot four like he is, you should be able

539
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: to get double digit rebounds easily in games like that.

540
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: So I thinkry okay, okay, okay, Yeah, maybe a Boa,

541
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: but honestly, Boban I thought was actually more was better

542
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: for them later in that series when when Rick Carlos

543
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: started him. But pausingis look, he's got that big contract.

544
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 3: He's got at least another guaranteed year before he has

545
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: a player option in that final year at about thirty

546
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: six million. I think it was so you know, the

547
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: Mavericks got the star there to pair alongside Luka Doncic.

548
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: They got the big franchise guy from New York. No

549
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: one really saw that coming. But Pauzingis hasn't been able

550
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: to really live up to that hype.

551
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he has his moments.

552
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: He has his games where you're like, Okay, he's looking

553
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: really good, but too often he's also he shrinks from

554
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: the big moments, and I think that's really crucial. I

555
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: think the Mavericks, if they can, they'll trade him. I

556
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: think they do need to move on from him. But

557
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: I think with a new coach there and Jason Kidd,

558
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: and we'll see how that goes. If Jason Kidd can

559
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: somehow unlock Kristaps wuzing has to be a really dominant player,

560
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: then that's going to.

561
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: Be huge for the Mavericks.

562
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: If not though, if he just kind of is running

563
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: from end to end and putting up moderate numbers, it's

564
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 3: not really going to get the Mavericks closer to the championship. So,

565
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: and you know, Luca entering his third season here or

566
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: is it fourth?

567
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: No, third? How many we've played now it is fourth season?

568
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you know they need to have that

569
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: reliable guy alongside Dunchichin. I'm not sure it's posingis, but

570
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: his ceiling is still you know that the potential is

571
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: still there. We just need to see it consistently throughout

572
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: a season, and then we really need to see it

573
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Because he was very, very ordinary against

574
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: the Clippers.

575
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all saw that bubble run, all bubble team

576
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: Kristaps Porzingis, and that's honestly what the Mavericks need for

577
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: a whole season. I guess the encouraging thing for Dallas

578
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: would be that for the first time in a long time,

579
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: Porzingis went into an off season without having to rehab

580
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: an injury. So let's just straight up getting better at basketball,

581
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: which will be huge for them. I don't know what

582
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: to think about Jason Kidd really wanting to post up

583
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: Kristaps Porzingis. It seems like it makes sense, right. You

584
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: see a big, tall guy seven to three or seven

585
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: to four, depending on your reporting, but he's got no boose.

586
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: So I hope he's been doing a bunch of squats

587
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: during the off season, because you would think, you know,

588
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: seeing a tall guy in a Dallas Mavericks jersey who

589
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: can shoot the ball, you want to see a little

590
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: bit of Dirk from Chris STAPs Porzingis. You want to

591
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: see it, even if he's not a post up masher.

592
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: Get him the ball in the high post and let

593
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: him shoot a fade away and count that as money

594
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: because he's got to be able to punish the switches

595
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 2: anytime a smaller guy ends up on him, and Porzingis

596
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: hasn't always been able to do that. So yeah, the Mavericks,

597
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost become the Tim Hardaway trade for them.

598
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: He got resigned to another deal this year, and he's instrumental,

599
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: a nice fit alongside Luca. That's what people thought Porzingis

600
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: was going to be because a tall guy who can

601
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: shoot threes, who can protect the rim, he's got to

602
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: be able to do that. And you know, I haven't

603
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: focused as much on the defensive end for Porzingis, just

604
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: because we want to see him producing more offensively, but

605
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't move quite as well as he used to.

606
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: He's not a real side to side guy. So they

607
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: got to figure out a way that makes sense to

608
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: unlock him as a rim protector, as a guy who's

609
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: going to contribute defensively outside of just rebounding. So, yeah,

610
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Lead big season for Porzingis.

611
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is maker break for him being a star player. Again,

612
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: it's not make or break for him being in the

613
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: league anymore, because, yeah, he's got two more years. I'm

614
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's going to take that player option of

615
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: thirty six plus two years from now, and he's got

616
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: a thirty three, so it's about sixty nine. Nice there.

617
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: It is oh to him over the next year the seasons,

618
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: or you know, it's a thing where maybe his body

619
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: just can't keep up. You mentioned the defensive end, Trey,

620
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: if he's got to do that, plus he is, you know,

621
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: he's got more responsibility under Jason Kidd on the offense. Event,

622
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he can overcome his injuries

623
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: good enough to do it over regular season and postseason again,

624
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and it's easy me playing armchair doctor over here. But

625
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: if you look the regular season, the numbers are pretty good.

626
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: He's twenty points per game the last three years, but

627
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: playoffs ended early two seasons ago in the bubble with

628
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: an injury, and then he faded in last year's playoffs

629
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to more of a you know, role player role where

630
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: he was fourteen points per game. It's Jason Kidd. I

631
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: worry is that he's going to put more, you know,

632
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: more responsibility on Kristaphs shoulders. I think he's there to

633
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: give him positive reinforcement to try and bring Chris STAPs

634
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: back to what Kristaps thought he was going to be

635
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: when he was in New York. Nick he's going to

636
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: let him run well, the mid range shots, even the

637
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: post touches. He said in the preseason, He's just going

638
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: to give him the ball. He wants him to be

639
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: that star and that's what they're hoping for. Then he's

640
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: got to go play defense. I just don't know if

641
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: his body can do it. And that's what the MAVs

642
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: thought they were trading for. They thought they were trading

643
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: for a guy that they could rehabilitate because he had

644
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: that major injury. In New York and they thought our

645
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: coach staff can do this. So yeah, it's that all

646
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: that talent. I do want to see him in the

647
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: mid range because that when I think back to his

648
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Knicks All Star run, He's an All Star before he

649
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: got injured there. I think of him in the post.

650
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I think of him just taking any every player everywhere.

651
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, the injury that season has seemed to wore him,

652
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: to wear him down, and it's it hasn't stopped. Really.

653
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: The bubble was a great run for a few games

654
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: and then he left that series against the Clippers with

655
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: an injury. One more player I want to get to

656
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: as a make or break guy. Skeets actually chimed in

657
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: he wanted this on the books, Marvin Bagley the third

658
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: as a make or break player. I totally agree because

659
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: you just mentioned Luca Lee as a guy drafted in

660
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen going to year four. The guys around Marvin

661
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Bagley in that draft, they're a getting extended all over

662
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: the place, Luca and Trey. Let's talking about DeAndre Ayton

663
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: up there at the top of the draft, and his

664
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: star should be shining brighter and brighter as he gets

665
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: older here, But it appears to be dimming, mainly because

666
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Number one, he's been injured a lot. He's averaged forty

667
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: games per season through his first three years, but even

668
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: last year it was his healthiest year. His numbers are

669
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: fifteen and seven. It's just about the place he was drafted.

670
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Really like that. Those numbers are fine, you know, fifteen

671
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: and seven off the bench, but maybe, you know, hopefully

672
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: for him that could be a building block because he

673
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: was generally healthy last year and hopefully Luke Walton will

674
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: put him in the starting lineup at some point for him,

675
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: because he played the entire season off the bench. And

676
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: I know Marvin Bagley Senior, I guess he's Marvin Bagley

677
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the second. He chimed in once upon a time and

678
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: he said, why's my boy not in the starting lineup?

679
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: I get it. But the thing is, he's an undersized four.

680
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: He has to play defense on a very very very

681
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: very bad defensive team, the worst defensive team. So I

682
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: don't know how Luke Walton sticks him in there, because

683
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: it kind of hurts Marvin Bagley to have Fox and

684
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Buddy Darren Fox and Buddy as your starting backcourt. They're

685
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: a siev backcourt. That's just the way it is. So

686
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I think it would help Marvin Bagley if Buddy Healed

687
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: was traded and Buddy didn't have to play as much,

688
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: because then there'd be a reason to throw Marvin Bagley

689
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: into the starting lap. And Buddy, I think, is one

690
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: of those guys who was definitely on the block. He

691
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: was almost traded for Russell Westbrook this past season, or

692
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: excuse me not russ He was almost traded to the

693
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Lakers in the offseason. So the starting lineup I know.

694
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Skeets also said that this would be his must watch

695
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: League Pass team with Darren Fox, Buddy Healed, Harrison Barnes,

696
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Rashawn Holmes. It's it's interesting, it's interesting enough. But you know,

697
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Marvin Bagley and you don't play defense,

698
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: I can I can see why Luke Walton would keep

699
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: him coming off the bench. And unless you're getting Halliburton

700
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: or off night Davian Mitchell and the Davian Mitchell, yeah,

701
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: he if they get him in there, then Bagley can

702
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: probably play some more. But this is this is a

703
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: huge year because those extensions have come and it has

704
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: not come for.

705
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: Well, he did, but he just hasn't been out to

706
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: stay healthy. I think that's the biggest problem.

707
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like games last year though, was it that many?

708
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he got that many. He only played

709
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: forty guys he played sixty.

710
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: He started the majority of his games last year. The

711
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: problem is you just can't defend and he's too skinny,

712
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: like he gets outplayed by Rashaun holl And. The Kings

713
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: went and paid for Shawn Holmes rather than bringing, rather

714
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: than extending Marvin Bagley. Rashaun Holmes is a great find

715
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: and he was one of the better personnel moves that

716
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: the Kings have made in the past couple of seasons.

717
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: But if you're the number two pick and you're not

718
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: out performing an undrafted guy who has brought in as

719
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: a free agent, that's a problem. I think that for

720
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: Bagley to have success, he's going to have to be

721
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: somewhere else beside Sacramento.

722
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's going to come down to

724
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 3: as well. Is he's got the talent, he's young enough.

725
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: He's had injuries, but it's also been not a great

726
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: situation there for him. But you know, if he can

727
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: just stay on the court and you know, improve the defense.

728
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: We know because that three point shots not too bad

729
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: on him. So there's the talent there. But he's got

730
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: to sort of he's got to make another team really

731
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: want to get him and sort of work with him

732
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: and make him into that you know, that number two

733
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: potential that you expect from a guy that high.

734
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: All right, we've got to take a break, but get

735
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: into a couple awards. Of course, our finals picks all that.

736
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: After the break back with no dunks, we got two

737
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: more awards to predict here in our previews. First one,

738
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: sixth Man of the Year. I'll start us off. I'm

739
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: buying some preseason hype. I've watched Tyler Hero of the

740
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: Miami Heat and I'm digging it. He looks phenomenal and

741
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: he is ready, whether or not he has the ball

742
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: in his hand or he's coming off picks or whatever

743
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: he's doing. He looks like a different player to me.

744
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: And he went from the high of the Finals the

745
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: Bubble Heat as a rookie. He probably didn't know how

746
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: to go into an offseason after that, especially because it

747
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: was a shortened season, so he wasn't as good in

748
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: year two and then a very disappointing playoffs at nine

749
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: points per game last year, so I'm gonna blame some

750
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: of that on youth. It happens, and he's got to

751
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: be focused on having it bounced back here. And he's

752
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: got a good spot to win this award with the

753
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Miami Heat because they're such a top heavy team. So

754
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Hero is going to be relied upon for scoring. You

755
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: can rely on Kyle Jimmy, Butler, Ducan Robinson Bam on

756
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: that team, but PJ. Tucker's the other store starter, I

757
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: should say most likely. And then the bench of Marky Morris,

758
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: Max Strew's great name, but I don't know how much

759
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna score, and Victor Oladipo and Dwayne Deadman. There's

760
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: not a lot of scoring on that bench, and Jimmy

761
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: will want Tyler here to go off. I think Jimmy,

762
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, wants all his guys to get going, especially

763
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: because Jimmy's getting a little bit longer in the tooth.

764
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: He's an old thirty two and he's not the most

765
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: durable of the players, even though you know he'll be

766
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: there in the end and he'll be fighting in the postseason.

767
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero is going to have a chance, and I

768
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: don't think I'm just buying the preseason hype. I think

769
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: all that hype for him being a guy that was

770
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: in trade rumors potentially for a guy like Drew Holliday

771
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: or whoever. He was almost I can't touch player for

772
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat, although apparently the Raptors could have had him,

773
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: don't buy that. But anyway, he scored. He was going

774
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: off this but he scored fourteen straight in a quarter.

775
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: It's getting high for basketball at fifty one points in

776
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: his first fifty minutes on the court. So I'm taking

777
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero as the sixth Man of the Year.

778
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: Solid pick. He's only going to be twenty two years

779
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: old this year, and when you look at the stats

780
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: from last season and having watched him, it definitely feels

781
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: like he took a step back. But really he just

782
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: didn't shoot the ball as well as he shot it

783
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: during his rookie year and especially during the bubble run.

784
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, the playmaking increase, The scoring, you know, is

785
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: about the same per thirty six as it was during

786
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: his rookie season. But the heat of kind of bet

787
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: on Tyler Hero being their young guy that's going to

788
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: progress and kind of lead them into or at least

789
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: be the bridge between the current era and whatever the

790
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: next era of the Miami Heat is. So yeah, they've

791
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: got the confidence in him. He's a confident player. He

792
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: looks like he's put on a little bit of muscle.

793
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: So I'm expecting a bounce back, solid season from Hero

794
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: as well.

795
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Lowry being there takes away some

796
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: of the playmaking responsibilities from Hero and he can just

797
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: be a guy who puts it in the hole. They

798
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: had high expectations after what happened in the Bubble, understandably so.

799
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: And they set Gorn Dragos for They pushed Goran dragons

800
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: to the sade last year and they said, you know,

801
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: Tyler Hill, you just some stuff with the ball. Do it,

802
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: do it, do it. And I think the responsibility will

803
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: be lessened this year. So he's a good candidate for

804
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: this award. Lee who you got for a six Man

805
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: of the Year?

806
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: Five episodes into the season and I finally get to

807
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: say his name, Kevin. Yeah, Look, he was he was

808
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: really good last season in the regular season. I thought

809
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: he was good for most of the playoffs as well.

810
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: He actually got into the starting lineup a little bit

811
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 3: there for the Hawks, and that's the thing. I'm expecting

812
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hunter, if he's healthy, he will start, and I

813
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: think Kevin will return to his ben roll, and he's

814
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: very good at that because he comes out shoots a

815
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: ball about thirty five percent from downtown. He's actually kind

816
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: of a decent rebound and decent defender too for a

817
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: guy of his position. You sort of don't expect them

818
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: to be so, but he is. And so I like

819
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: the Hawks what they've got this season. I think if

820
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: he can become, you know, that leader off the bench,

821
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: I think Cam Reddish actually, who also played well when

822
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: he came into the team against the Milwaukee Bucks there,

823
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: He's probably going to be getting some heavy minutes as

824
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: well and scoring a lot, so he might even take

825
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: a little bit of the shine offerta there.

826
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: But I like what I saw.

827
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: From him, and you know, the Hawks, like like with

828
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: every team, health is a big factor. But if keV

829
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: can come out there and hit those threes, he can

830
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: be getting those Corvid kisses that would be the Kevin

831
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: kisses from now on.

832
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: Went up down there at the Fortress.

833
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: So keV, keV. It's funny that you had him, because

834
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: I actually had Kevin Herder for my year but nobody's

835
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: going to take Jordan Clarkson might as well, right, Like,

836
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: he is the big time favorite here. He obviously won

837
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: it last year. He will likely lead the league in

838
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: scoring off the bench again, so he seems like a

839
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: smart pick. But I'm with you. Lee Hurder is a

840
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: fun guy to choose because he has gotten better at

841
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: the things he wasn't quite as good at as his

842
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: as his career has progressed. Came in maybe just as

843
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: a corver kissing kind of shooter, but now he was

844
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: making players off the dribble against the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

845
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: He's got the size to rebound, he can play a

846
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: little bit of defense, and it definitely feels like his

847
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: role is going to be as a sixth man who

848
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: can do a little bit more than just shoot from

849
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: the outside.

850
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

851
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: He has got a nice game to him, and that's

852
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 3: what I like about it. I mean, this award tends

853
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 3: to go to whoever scores the most points.

854
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: That's usually what it.

855
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: Is, and I think Jordan Clarkson was that last season,

856
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: and obviously Crawford and Lou Williams in the past. So

857
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: he may not lead the league in bench scoring, but

858
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: I can definitely see him averaging double digits in scoring

859
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: and shooting the ball well, and then just playing, you know,

860
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: a big role on that Hawks second unit because you know,

861
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: again this is a team that I believe he is

862
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: going to be much better, and that second unit has

863
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: to be solid. They can't just rely on on Trey

864
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: and John Collins and you know, the rest of the

865
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: starter is there. So I'm hoping for keV and I'll

866
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: see him next Thursday night down at the Fortress against

867
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: the Mavericks against Chris STAPs, to be keV versus Chris

868
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: STAPs Game one. What a start to the season.

869
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: I kin't white. I see you're going at Joe.

870
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: Well for surely it was standing room only?

871
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think about this? As a nickname

872
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: task from Abbattino in the stream team red Hot Chili Herder,

873
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Red Hot Chili Herder?

874
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: Bad again if you said that to somebody, I was

875
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: standing beside in standing room only and stayed farm Arena.

876
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Red hot Chili? Who is that red hot chili hooter?

877
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. It's not bad, it's

878
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: not bad. He does have red hair. It's a good fit.

879
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: It's a good fit. I get it. keV is a

880
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: good nickname too though, kind of like Jeb. Yeah, there's

881
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: just so many guys that when we go down there

882
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: in six days from now, I can't believe it's only

883
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: six days from now. Lee though, that come off the

884
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: bench and we'll take some reps from Kevin Herder. You

885
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: mentioned Cam Reddish. Nate McMillan said, this guy is going

886
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: to play twenty five minutes a game. He's looking at

887
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: playing a lot on the wing there. They've got lou

888
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: Williams still. Ye, they've got Delon Wright as their backup guard.

889
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Who's going to handle it because he's solid, He's you know,

890
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: could be the best backup point guard in the league.

891
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: So that's I don't know if he's going to be

892
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: the sixth man, I guess, but he's so good. The

893
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Hawks have to make a trade. They to me, they do.

894
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: I know they're they're a really deep team, but I

895
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: think Travis Schlank is thinking sitting there, thinking how are

896
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: you going to get better? And I know they've got

897
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: a very solid roster, but if they could package a

898
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: couple of those young guys for a star, that's what

899
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: they got to be hoping for I assume anyways, So

900
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: let's move on to coach of the year chatter, Trey,

901
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: who you got?

902
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm going with Michael Malone of the Denver Nuggets as

903
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: my coach of the year. Part of it is because

904
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't talked about the Denver Nuggets

905
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: at all and they're still going to be a really

906
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: solid team. They've got the reigning MVP in Nikola Jokic.

907
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: Obviously no Jamal Murray to start the season, and who

908
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: knows what he'll look like when he finally makes his return.

909
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: But Michael Porter Junior seems primed for a breakout season.

910
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: He had a great second half last year and we're

911
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing him build on it. Aaron Gordon

912
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: is still around. I think Jeff Green is now on

913
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets, so you know that means a playoff

914
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: appearance is in the wings. But yeah, I think the

915
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: Nuggets they're not gonna be as good as they were

916
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: last year. They were a championship contender until Jamal Murray

917
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: went down, still got to win in the first round

918
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: of the playoffs and then got smoked by the Suns

919
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: in four games, ending with Nikola Jokic hit and Cassave

920
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: Cam that nose pain hit him right in the nose

921
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: and it just fell apart. You know, basically, the Nuggets

922
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: ran out of players. They didn't have the guards to

923
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: compete against the Phoenix Suns, and you know their guards

924
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: are still not going to be top of the pops

925
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: right now. But Jamal Murray will return eventually. I'm not

926
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: expecting a huge season from him. Anything that he provides

927
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: the Nuggets will be gravy on top. But I don't

928
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: think they're going to fall off that hard, just because

929
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: Jokich is so good. And if the Nuggets are able

930
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: to somehow get a first round playoff series at home,

931
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: if they're a top four seed, I can see some

932
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: votes going Michael Malone's way.

933
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, a similar reason to why I think Nicolae Okitch

934
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: is a legitimate repeat MVP candidate, because expectations are so

935
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: low and that could code well for Michael Malone. It's

936
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: crazy to think of Jokich as an under the right

937
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: radar MVP candidate because he just freaking won it. But

938
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: no one is talking about the Denver Nuggets. There's just

939
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: enough air for the Lakers and the Suns. Even a

940
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: little jazz talk in there, and obviously the Warriors are

941
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: taking so much of the air, and then the Blazers

942
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: in the map, so no one is talking about the

943
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. So Michael Malone could sneak in there. He

944
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: could sneak in there. And sometimes I think voters want

945
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: this to be a little bit of a lifetime accomplishment award.

946
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: And Michael Malone had a really good season last year,

947
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: and you know they're out of a year behind, is

948
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So maybe you know they give a

949
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: few extra votes to make Malon So that's a good one. Tree.

950
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: Where do you got Lee?

951
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this award, like the six Man, tends

952
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: to go to the guy with the most points, this

953
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: award tends to go certainly to one of the coaches

954
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: who has the most wins second or third. And I'm

955
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: not sure the Nuggets can win that many games that

956
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: Malone will get that recognition. That's why I'm kind of

957
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: taking the easy way out. I'm going with Mike Budenholzer

958
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: because I think the Bucks can win sixty plus games.

959
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: And did you have you guys seen Yanna shooting the

960
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: ball so far this season? Oh my goodness, me, now

961
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 3: that they've won the championship. I wonder if they play

962
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: a little bit freer the Bucks this season, because you know,

963
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: Budenholz is not worried about his status going forward. Certainly

964
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: he's not going to get fired this season.

965
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: No matter what.

966
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: You know, he was kind of always on that hot seat,

967
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: the perennial hot seat last season, even through the playoffs.

968
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: Now they've won, they extended him. Yannis is looking great.

969
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: They've got that sort of playoff confidence that team that

970
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: continuity I like as well, bring back basically everyone except

971
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: for PJ of course, who's left. So I can sort

972
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: of see the Bucks playing so well cruise and they

973
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: don't have any of that drama that like. I think

974
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: one thing as good as Kyrie, as Kevin Durant and

975
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: James hardin Ah and they can win sixty games without Kyrie.

976
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: That cloud of Kyrie.

977
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: Hanging over could just cause some sort of internal chaos

978
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: on that team as well. Maybe he comes back, maybe

979
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: he doesn't. I'm not sure, but I think the Bucks

980
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: are kind of just playing now like with house money

981
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: a little bit, and I think that could help Budenholz's

982
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: case if they are the only team to win sixty

983
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: plus games. That tends to favor into a factor into

984
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: who becomes the favorite to win this award. So he's

985
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: won it a couple of times. He won it in Milwaukee,

986
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: won it with the Atlanta Hawks. I think he can

987
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: probably just do it again simply because the Bucks can

988
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: cruise their way to sixty wins.

989
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: To one point from Ziggi here who says that Bud

990
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: going for a third Coach of the Year will be tough. Currently,

991
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: there are three coaches in NBA history who have three

992
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year trophies. Do you know who they are?

993
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: Yessing Popovich.

994
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Yep, that's one, Phil No nut Fell Jackson out pat Riley,

995
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: pat Railey, and one other one a big team coaching there,

996
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: don Nelson.

997
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: There you go, buddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

998
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's a good point. It is a sort

999
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: of award. You know, a narrative could come in. Let's

1000
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: say the Portland Trailblazers win forty five games, or Chauncey

1001
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Bilbs might just get in that person. Thibodeau had a

1002
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: good season last year. If the Knicks win fifty, maybe

1003
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: he gets it as well. So there are definitely a

1004
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: lot of candidates, and it sort of comes into the

1005
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: story and how you feel about the team and did

1006
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: they surprise. But I also sort of think that if

1007
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: you can crack that sixty win category, that almost kind

1008
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: of makes you the default favorite just by that, because

1009
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of like Eric Spolstra, he

1010
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: isn't a fantastic coach, but when he's got a good

1011
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: roster and a good team, and I just don't see

1012
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: the Heat winning that many games anyway, even though we

1013
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: know they're going to be a very very well coached team.

1014
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: Maybe just doesn't get quite the recognition because he's gotten

1015
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: it in the past as far as you know, he's

1016
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: won a couple of championships and he's been there forever.

1017
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: So we'll see, we'll see, but I'll take Bud bit boring.

1018
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: But I sort of feel he's probably the favorite because

1019
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: I think the Bucks are going to have the best

1020
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: record this season.

1021
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: The Bucks are going to win so many games this season.

1022
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: It's totally true, especially because yeah, they're they're gonna feel

1023
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: real confident going into the season. They're gonna feel free,

1024
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: and they have a leader who doesn't take games off

1025
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: in Yupo, so they have obviously what they've had. You

1026
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: know the last few years, a very very good team. Yeah,

1027
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: plus just feeling good going into the season. And yeah,

1028
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: Jannis is taking the ball up top and just driving in,

1029
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, giving a little little shoulder shake to a

1030
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: guy he's off of him and then just turns and

1031
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: hits a shut. I mean, if he's got that in

1032
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: his game, and then I regret my MVP pick of

1033
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic. The Janis is going to do it again.

1034
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: And if he plays anywhere near eighty games, that's gonna

1035
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: bode well because you know some of the other guys

1036
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: like a Durant or you know, the guys in the

1037
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: West will take some games off. And yeah, it's just

1038
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: doesn't sit. The guy played with half a leg in

1039
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: the finals, So it's yeah, bothesway the Bucks picking Budenholzer,

1040
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: It could happen. It could happen unless there's a better story.

1041
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: And I think the Hawks and Nate McMillan could make

1042
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: for a little bit of a better story. If the

1043
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: Bucks don't win a ton of games, I think the

1044
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: team that they face in the conference finals, the Atlanta Hawks,

1045
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: will get back up in those the top of the

1046
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: four and if they fight for the third spot, behind

1047
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Nets. I think you can make

1048
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: a case for Nate McMillan, even though we got some

1049
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: votes last year. I think people will understand, okay, well,

1050
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: maybe that this team is for real and we should

1051
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: give some more votes to Nate McMillan, even if let's

1052
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: say the Sixers, who are the third best team in

1053
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, even if they don't have Ben Simmons

1054
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of time, if you just look

1055
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: up in the standings and the Hawks are fighting with

1056
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: the Sixers for the third seed, I think that'll push

1057
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: some votes into Nate mcmill in his way. And uh,

1058
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, Trey Young I think is a legitimate leader

1059
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: in this team, you know, in this league. So I

1060
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: think they're going to be up there, you know, with

1061
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: with the better teams. I think John Collins has really

1062
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: grown into a guy who doesn't care about his stats.

1063
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: And there's so much talent just one through ten, as

1064
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: I mentioned on the bench. There they've got Delawn Right

1065
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: and Lou Williams and Cam Reddish and Kevin Herder and

1066
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: Daneil Gallinari and Gorky Jang. That's six guys who are

1067
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: really really solid. So how can they lose games. They

1068
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: should be up there in the East. They've got to

1069
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: be battling behind Milwaukee and Brooklyn if Nate McMillan is

1070
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: going to win this thing. But I think this is

1071
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: a legitimate team. I know there's a wide ranging opinion

1072
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: on the Hawks. Maybe they're not that good, but I

1073
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: believe that last year is no fluke. So Nate McMillan,

1074
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: he's he's got a good shot. He's got a good

1075
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: shot if they win. How many games do they have

1076
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: to win? It has to be a lot, it.

1077
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: Has to fifty.

1078
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think over I think the I think the

1079
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: fifty is the sort of minimum that he would need

1080
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: to win because that's that sort of benchmark of like, okay,

1081
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: you're a legit team if you win fifty, you know,

1082
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: you don't just stumble your way there. But then you know,

1083
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: if he can any anything over that.

1084
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 4: Will really help his case. And yeah, I think I agree.

1085
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it was a fluke, but you just

1086
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: never know sometimes until they get out there on the

1087
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: floor and play those games.

1088
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: Last year just a reminder, it was Tom Thibodeau, Monty

1089
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Williams and then Quinn Snyder won two three, and that's

1090
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: who Skeets chimed in with. He thinks Quinn Snyder will

1091
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: win his first Coach of the Year award. Understandable. It

1092
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: is a little bit nutty when you look at the

1093
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: standings last year and you see that the Utah Jazz

1094
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: won fifty two games in a shorten season. They could

1095
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: easily win sixty games this year. So Quinn Snyder a

1096
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: good candidate in the Western Conference, speaking of the Western Conference.

1097
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: After the break, we'll get to the surprise playoff team

1098
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: selections from us in the Western Conference, and we'll make

1099
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: our NBA Finals prediction here on the last preview before

1100
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: the season. We gotta take a quick break. All right,

1101
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: we're back baby to answer question thirty and thirty one

1102
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: of our preview cues. We're doing thirty one questions. Feels

1103
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: good to do that many and not seventy two or

1104
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: eighty two what we used to do. I think we

1105
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: started with eighty two back on the starter days, and

1106
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: then we decided that's too many. So I know it

1107
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: lines up well with the number of games in a season,

1108
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: but let's just do seventy two instead. We thought that

1109
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: was acceptable because that's how many games they should be

1110
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: playing in the regular season. But do you guys prefer

1111
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: seventy two or thirty one? Oh?

1112
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Thirty one?

1113
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: For sure.

1114
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think we were doing like twice as

1115
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: many questions with half as much time to actually talk

1116
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: about them.

1117
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: How do we do that?

1118
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Throw them on the hot seat?

1119
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: Great question.

1120
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: Thirty one? Slow long questions work for basket Robins.

1121
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Love me at baskt robins love me. There's an extra

1122
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: N in basket? Is there? I think? What do you mean?

1123
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: Two ends at the end?

1124
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? What am I thinking about?

1125
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1126
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm rong. What am I think? I've been robbed? Roby?

1127
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the extra A and Hagen does?

1128
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking?

1129
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

1130
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: The Benstein base Not sure.

1131
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: No, I can't drink none of that, but I don't

1132
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking of it. Anyway, Let's move on.

1133
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: Question thirty surprise playoff team in the Western Conference? Straight?

1134
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: Who you got?

1135
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: I thought this was actually kind of a hard question

1136
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: because you look at the standings from last year's Western Conference.

1137
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: Nine teams were over five hundred. The Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, Clippers, Mavericks, Trailblazers, Lakers, Warriors,

1138
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: and Grizzlies. I assume those nine teams will still be

1139
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: playoff slash play in teams, So there's a tenth spot

1140
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: open for the Spurs, Pelicans, Kings, Timberwolves, Thunder and Rockets.

1141
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: If I'm choosing this, to me, does not seem like

1142
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: a surprise team because they're gonna make it into the

1143
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: play in tournament and likely be eliminated after one game.

1144
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: I guess give me the Timberwolves. But yeah, I guess, so,

1145
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's impossible to choose really

1146
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: between the Kings, Pelicans, and Timberwolves, because we know Zion.

1147
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: It seemed like he was gonna miss the start of

1148
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: the season and now David Griffin is saying he will

1149
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: be back during the regular season, So what does that mean? Literally,

1150
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 2: no idea. I'll believe the Kings make the playoffs when

1151
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: the Kings make the playoffs, so kind of by default,

1152
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves have the best best player of

1153
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: those teams between the Pelicans, Kings, and Timberwolves in Karl

1154
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. As we've seen already this week, he's looking

1155
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: extra ripped. He's been putting in the time and the

1156
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: gym and he's ready to have a bounce back season

1157
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: year two of Anthony Edwards. I assume that will be

1158
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: pretty solid as well. So give me the Timberwolves getting

1159
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: to numb ten. But the big surprise for me, I

1160
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: think the Portland Trail Blazers are going to be a

1161
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: play in team rather than a straight up play off team.

1162
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: They finished tied with the Mavericks, Blazers and Lakers last year,

1163
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: but the Blazers got the sixth seed because of tie

1164
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: breakers and things of that nature. The Blazers, though, to me,

1165
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: they got bailed out so hard by Damian Lillard last year.

1166
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: They finished forty two and thirty, but they could have

1167
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: easily finished with five or fewer five fewer wins just

1168
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: because Lillard was so money in the fourth quarter, hit

1169
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: so many big shots. If he misses a handful of those,

1170
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: If their team takes on an injury to anybody in

1171
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: the starting lineup, which seems to happen every year with

1172
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: the Blazers, they're in the same spot they were last year,

1173
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: looking at some tough stuff, competing with a pretty thin bench.

1174
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: So give me a surprise that the Blazers make it

1175
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: to the play in tournament and I'm thinking they'll show off,

1176
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: showdown against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1177
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: This guy is calling it. He's calling it, Lee, who

1178
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: you got is your surprise?

1179
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: It is tough.

1180
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: It is tough because I think it does come down.

1181
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm basically going to put a line through the Pelicans Zion.

1182
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: This prognosis that we heard yesterday just does not sound good.

1183
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: He could be out for another six weeks potentially, and

1184
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: if he's just gone for that long, I just cannot

1185
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: see the Pelicans staying afloat in the Western Conference. So

1186
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: I think it and I don't think the Thunder obviously

1187
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 3: this season are going to make it, and the Rockets neither.

1188
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: So I think it comes down to the Kings and

1189
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: the Wolves. I'll take the Kings. You know, both of

1190
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: these teams. You want them to have one of those seasons,

1191
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: you know, where they just finally break through and win,

1192
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: you know, at least five hundred basketball because I think

1193
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Darren Fox was close to the All Star team last season.

1194
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: I think he can be there again. And if they

1195
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: can just clean their defense up just a little bit

1196
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: and win just a handful of those games that they

1197
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: that they lose because their defense is so bad. Thirty

1198
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 3: one and forty one last season. If they can win,

1199
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, if they can get to five hundred, then

1200
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 3: they're almost a lock, you would think for the playing tournament,

1201
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: and perhaps they could even squeeze in.

1202
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 4: To that top six pot.

1203
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: Probably not with only forty one wins, but you just

1204
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: want to see finally some progress there and get Luke

1205
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: Walton off that hot seat, see some consistency in stability,

1206
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: because that's what's really engulfed both of these franchises the

1207
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: last well decade. If you're like you, if you want

1208
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: to go even longer. Yeah, you know there's coaching changes,

1209
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: front office changes. The Timberwolves of course, firing Gerson Rosas

1210
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: only a couple of weeks ago. That's not idea. They've

1211
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: got new ownership coming in. So you know, Kat's at

1212
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: that stage of his career where if things don't if

1213
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: his team isn't starting to win soon, maybe he's going

1214
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: to be on the move. I know I've sort of

1215
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: talked about that in the years gone by, but Kat's

1216
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: also had his own issues in terms of staying on

1217
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: the floor. So you know, I think Anthony Edwards, yeah,

1218
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: I think with he and Kat, they're a better team

1219
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: than they were last season. If Anthony Edwards can continue

1220
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: his progression, they'll be good. But I'll pick the Kings

1221
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: because someone sort of has to. And I just hope,

1222
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: I hope they can just get it together because they

1223
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: are They're not a bad They've got players you enjoy watching.

1224
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: Just it just seems that some sort of internal drama

1225
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: happens in derayls that team as well. But if they

1226
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: can keep it together, maybe the Kings can give us

1227
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: a five hundred season, that'd be great.

1228
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: You said drama, going back to the Pelicans drama there

1229
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: for a second. I just want to chime in on this.

1230
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I hate that they didn't tell us that Zion Williamson

1231
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: had foot surgery in August or whenever it was he

1232
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: got the injury or he sustained the injury in August

1233
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: and then he had a foot surgery. Didn't come at

1234
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: to light. Didn't come to light until media day when

1235
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: David Griffin said, yeah, yeah, our best player had surgery.

1236
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: No big deal. He'll be around. And now, as you said,

1237
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: Lee not going to be playing at least until a

1238
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: week probably two, probably three into the season. He's going

1239
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: to be reevaluated two weeks from now meeting, he's definitely

1240
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: going to miss the first week and likely missed the

1241
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: second week. And you know, we talked about it in

1242
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: the during our previews. Skeet said the reason why it

1243
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: wasn't mentioned was because they wanted to sell season tickets. Sure,

1244
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: but now you're just sowing distrust with the fan base.

1245
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I would sit there as a season seat holder and say,

1246
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 1: we've gone through so much as a franchise, so much

1247
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: this past decade. I understand we're in this era of

1248
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: transparency where everybody wants everything transparent. I sound like, you know,

1249
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: I want everything revealed to me. No, I just want

1250
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: to know if my star player, as a fan sustained

1251
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: a pretty prominent intrigu get out in front of it,

1252
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: and now it looks worse to me, and I think

1253
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: that's it's just a snowball effect with management. So I griff. Yeah.

1254
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: He kind of tried to talk his way out of

1255
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: it a little bit by saying, you know, the regular

1256
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: season meant any time during the regular season. That's not

1257
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: really the way it was interpreted when he first said it.

1258
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: He'll be ready for the regular season, so he's I

1259
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: think he's probably feeling the hate a little bit there, Griff,

1260
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: because they certainly have underperformed since Zion came along, haven't

1261
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: really been able to get that team moving in the

1262
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: right direction, and now this is just another blow to them.

1263
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, this is a tough season for the Pelicans.

1264
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: I guess they wanted to sell more season seats between

1265
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: media Day and opening Night and the things. I guess

1266
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: that's why he said it that wayly, and he didn't

1267
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: go all in and reveal everything. For my pick. As

1268
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: we back up the truck, I think.

1269
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: That's me.

1270
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: Loading up the leaf blowers. Here we go.

1271
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: I am taking the Minnesota Timberwolves as well. I'm going

1272
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: to go against every bone in my body and just

1273
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: go with the heart, because it sure feels like I

1274
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: picked the Minnesota Timberwolves as that team to finally make

1275
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: it for Karl Anthony Towns to finally lead a team

1276
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: into the postseason that Jimmy Butler year aside, Carl Anthony

1277
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Towns has to do it himself, and I think this

1278
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: is the it's got to be a bounce back year

1279
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: for him. The Man GMS voted the number one player

1280
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: they wanted to build their team around in twenty sixteen

1281
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen. Well, this is the year. This is

1282
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: when he does it. They're twelve and thirteen in their

1283
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: final twenty five games last season. Okay, right, it's all right,

1284
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: and they have a winning record when Dangel Russell and

1285
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: Towns have played together thirteen and twelve since Russell was

1286
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: acquired a year and a half ago, feels like even

1287
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: longer than that. So they haven't played a lot.

1288
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: Played twenty five games together in a year and a half.

1289
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: Fat is that's wild? Yeah, it's only it's been seventy

1290
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: seven games. But yes, to have a winning record, that's

1291
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: very solid. It's surprising the good buds. They just haven't

1292
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: played a lot together. Anthony Edwards he's good. He's grown.

1293
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard, he's going to come into his own.

1294
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: The questions are, is that Karl Anthony Towns team going

1295
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: to play defense? Are they going to stay healthy? And

1296
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: who's going to play forward for that team? Because they

1297
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: have a huge hole at both spots.

1298
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think you can get around that. You've

1299
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: got Patrick Beverley. Maybe you start him with D'Angel Russell

1300
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: to insert some defense. Move Edwards up. He's grown, I've heard,

1301
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: so he can play a small forward, and then you

1302
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: started Jared Vanderbilt, a defensive only guy. His name is

1303
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: V eight. We heard him at the beginning of this show.

1304
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: Vroom vroom, it's a great nickname. Get him into the

1305
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: starting lineup, you play defense, or you start Malik Beasley

1306
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: got you got twenty points per game last year and

1307
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: move you know, him and Anthony Edwards or the two three,

1308
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: whatever you call it. In this position le positions, positionless

1309
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: basketball era, They're not going to play defense at all,

1310
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: but you know, I feel like there are options. Anyways,

1311
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: Milik Beasley's probably best as a six guy. He's he

1312
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: had a wedgie last night. We actually we tweeted it.

1313
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Milik Beasley was the guy who stuck it on a floater. Nice. Yeah,

1314
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: so lots of fun there on the nets broadcast by

1315
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: the way, Sarah Coustack and Graty having a blast. Anyways,

1316
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: Coach Chris Finch will I think we'll figure out the

1317
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: lineups because he's a very good coach. But I don't know.

1318
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can get to five hundred,

1319
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: if they're on the floor, Karl Anthony Towns can stay healthy.

1320
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: I hope it's a bounce back year for him, especially

1321
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: with everything that happened to him personally. And yeah, the

1322
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: Grison Rosss thing not a good not a good nat

1323
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: a good thing. But I don't think it's to really

1324
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: get a factor in onto the floor all that much.

1325
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll rally around it. Who am I kidding, mister

1326
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses over here, They're gonna They're not gonna

1327
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: rally around their front office exect being fired. But hopefully

1328
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: it comes together for towns in the team.

1329
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: So this seems like the last chance that we're gonna

1330
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: have to talk about the San Antonio Spurs on this

1331
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: preview podcast series. They seem kind of lost out there

1332
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference for the first time in a

1333
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: long time. They finished tenth in the West last year,

1334
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: just a couple of games ahead of the Pelicans and Kings.

1335
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: They got into the play in tournament, obviously didn't do anything.

1336
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: DeRozan now a Chicago Bowl. LaMarcus Aldridge went to the

1337
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: nets at the end of last season. Any optimism for

1338
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: the Spurs, what are you looking for if you're a

1339
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: Spurs fan this season?

1340
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I like de Jontei, Murrie, Derek White,

1341
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: Lonnie Walker. He's pretty good, So I think They've got

1342
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: some decent sort of you know backcourt swing players there

1343
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: and Perl you know, he's not bad in the middle there.

1344
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: And they've got the big Australian Jock Landale as well

1345
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: on the team. So you know, you know, with a

1346
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: Greek Popovich team, they're not just going to completely stink.

1347
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 3: It just doesn't feel like they have that power on

1348
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: either end though, to really sort of get back into

1349
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: the mix in the Western Conference. But you know, they'll

1350
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: just be hovering around five hundred for most of the season,

1351
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: and it feels like, you know that the Spurs also

1352
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: realized they had to move on from some of those

1353
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: older guys and start with a new team. So you know, look,

1354
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: de Jente Mary is an incredible defender. You know, he's

1355
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: got the All Star potential there. And Lonnie Walker when

1356
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: he was playing last year looked great as well. So

1357
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: they've got the talent, but just don't think they're deep

1358
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: enough as we normally expect from a San Antonio Spurs

1359
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: team and just lacking that real, you know, that extra firepower.

1360
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have a Vladimir Guerrero Junior either, But

1361
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: the Spurs somehow get into the play in tournament, you

1362
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 2: may be looking at Coach of the Year Umber four

1363
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: for Greggy Poppy.

1364
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and they moved on from their vets. If

1365
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: you're going to play the smart Spurs organization card, they

1366
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: moved on for their vets because they know that their

1367
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: young guys can step up. And if you're watching any

1368
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: of their preseason stuff, you see that Lonnie Walker looks

1369
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: like his game's evolved, like he's got side step threes,

1370
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: and it looks like a guy that they can rely

1371
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: on because the other guys after getting rid of Damar

1372
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: and Patty Mills and Rudy Gay and Gorgy jang In

1373
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: Dejontey Murray and Keldon Johnson, who's who I love the

1374
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: way he attacks the rim. I don't know if they

1375
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: can be you know, guys you really rely on on

1376
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: the offensive end to create their own shot. I think

1377
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to Lonnie Walker and a

1378
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: healthier Derek White. But there's there's yeah, there's a lot

1379
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: of names there obviously that hardcores know. As you said, Trey,

1380
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: they kind of float under the radar or nobody really

1381
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: talks about them. That's just the way it is, and

1382
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be even less so now without Demart

1383
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: de Rosen and Marcus Aldridge gone during last year and

1384
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: the Vets gone now, no one's going to talk about

1385
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: them other than the basketball geeks and the diehards of

1386
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: the world in Spurs fans, right they are. They're going

1387
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: to be in that mix for the eight, nine, ten

1388
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: eleven seed for sure. I think they're good enough to

1389
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: be in that mix. But yeah, unless they really overachieved,

1390
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 1: we won't be talking about them.

1391
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see us talking about the Spurs for

1392
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: this reason, which Mikhale mentions in the stream team. They

1393
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: added monogenobly to the bench as a coach. I had

1394
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: forgotten about this, but Lee, I imagine we'll see something

1395
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: Manu related at some point from you in the Oh.

1396
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm very excited to have Manno back in

1397
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: the league. He took a couple of years off, he

1398
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: went bike riding with these kids. He went up to

1399
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: British Columbia and checked it all out, and I think

1400
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: he's never freshed and he wants to get back into

1401
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: the game. So the league is a better place with

1402
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: monogenobally backing it.

1403
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: I got one more question for you guys before we

1404
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: get to our NBA Finals predictions. It's specifically for Tray

1405
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: since we don't do seventy two anymore. Let's just add

1406
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: a couple in here. This question comes from Rich Burdett

1407
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: and the stream team. Why does it look like Trey

1408
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: is in the lobby of a strip mall health spa.

1409
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've been looking for studios around Atlanta and for me,

1410
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: the best place ended up being the health Spa. You know,

1411
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: I can record the episode and as soon as we're done,

1412
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: get a little bit of a massage afterwards to loosen

1413
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: up for the rest of my day.

1414
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: There's your answer, Rach.

1415
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, wellness exactly.

1416
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: All right, final one here. Unless somebody out there in

1417
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: the stream team has got something else smart to say,

1418
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: we won't squeeze in another question. This is our last

1419
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: one for our fifth preview. We'll be back next week though,

1420
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: every single day, and it's the big one. NBA Finals predictions.

1421
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Give us your teams, your champ, your Finals MVP, whatever

1422
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: you got Lee.

1423
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough one. I mean, in the Eastern Conference,

1424
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: I think obviously comes down to the Bucks and the

1425
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: Nets today. I think those are clearly the two best teams.

1426
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: And again Yannis. Maybe it's just I've been seduced by

1427
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: his preseason shooting, but.

1428
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: Man, it's different. It's completely different.

1429
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 3: He's stepping into those shots, he's only taken five seconds

1430
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: at the free throw line. It just looks so much smoother.

1431
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: If Yannis plays as good as eighty two games and

1432
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: he's shooting the ball the way he is, I think

1433
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 3: the Bucks are the automatic favorite in the eastn Conference.

1434
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 3: I think even with the Nets as great as they are,

1435
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: with Kevin Durant and James Harden there, I've got the

1436
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 3: Nets second right now to the Bucks. So I think

1437
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: Milwaukee makes it from the Eastern Conference. And then in

1438
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: the West, there's so many questions, like the Utah Jazz

1439
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: have had the best record, but again have had a

1440
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: playoff disappointment. The Phoenix Suns. Can they repeat was last

1441
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: season a little bit of a high watermark? Can they

1442
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: get back there? Are the Lakers that good?

1443
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 4: I'm not really buying them.

1444
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: The Nuggets without Jamal Murray don't seem like they can

1445
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: legit contend yet. I think they need to get Murray

1446
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 3: back there. But it has to be one of those

1447
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: teams doesn't matter. I mean the Clippers, Clippers are missing

1448
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard, but they played in Hey what about this team?

1449
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: You know, someone from the Western Conference there? Because again

1450
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 3: I thought Paul George and Tyler's coaching when Kawhi went

1451
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: down was incredible. I think they just ran out of

1452
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 3: gas in the end against the Phoenix Suns. So the

1453
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: Clippers are a good team. They're in a sneaky good

1454
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: spot too. We were kind of like just dismissing them

1455
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: because Kawhi is not there. But they can easily, I think,

1456
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: get to fifty games still and be another threat, especially

1457
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: if Kawhi comes back for the playoffs. So oh, you know,

1458
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk myself into the Clippers. Give me

1459
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: the Clippers in the Western Conference?

1460
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: Why not? That's That's who I'm taking from the West.

1461
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy, but I really believe in Tyler.

1462
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: If they're a road team, it doesn't matter a good.

1463
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: Point their road corn advantage and.

1464
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: They're good on the road. Yeah, Kauwhi has to be

1465
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: back healthy at some point. They keep it under wraps.

1466
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: It could easily be midway through the season and they

1467
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: would still be a four or five six team. What

1468
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: they found in Terrence Man. If they're deep enough to

1469
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: be in that mix. It would be a low seed

1470
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: for a team obviously to get back to, you know,

1471
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: to the conference finals even and then and then the

1472
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. But they they kind of overachieved last year,

1473
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: and I think it's not a regular four, five six

1474
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: team because you're adding one of the best players in

1475
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: the game midway through the season with Kawhi Leonards. So

1476
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm you know, it's one of those things.

1477
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: There's so many teams in the West that can make it.

1478
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: And I think the Clippers chemistry is real. As you know,

1479
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: much as people want to rag on the Clippers, they

1480
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: made the conference finals last year and they were very,

1481
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: very solid, So I'm buying that they're you know, they're

1482
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: they're they're not talked about, but they're also not talking

1483
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's a good thing. I think they're just

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Speaker 1: they're keeping it all together right now. So I think

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Speaker 1: they get there. And and I'll finish off my pick,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the Nets in the East that get there.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see the best off. It's

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Speaker 1: an NBA history. They will just absolutely not be stopped.

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Speaker 1: James Harden is feeling good and I'm going to take

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Speaker 1: my finals m v P. I'm going to take Kyle

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Speaker 1: Korver because you mentioned man Genobley's on the Spurs bench.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Korver is the next shooting coach. He's like a

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Speaker 1: player developmental guy.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna shooting coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty solid shooting coach. He's coached some real

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Speaker 1: stars in this league, like Lee Ellis back.

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Speaker 3: And I will I will say, I will say he's

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 3: only a part time coach. Is close to the situation

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Speaker 3: informed me that he's going to be there part time.

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Speaker 1: So are your sources writers because they've been writing that.

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: Like Alex Schiffer on the Athletic right now, he's he's

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 1: driving in you you see him Lee dropping off his kids.

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01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: He's got to take care of his kids. He's got

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: he's got five kids, right.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't think he's got Well, I.

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: Just added a couple.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's probably Kevin James Kyrie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Nick, Yeah, he's working with Nick Corny, Alex Schiffer,

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01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: he's working with Nick Claxton. If Nick Laxton can break

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Speaker 1: through and be a player for that team, that's exactly

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01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: what they need. Anyways, I think the Nets beat the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: and the real MVP is Kevin Durant going simple, going

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01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: boring with the Finals MVP. But yeah, the Nets are

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: just too good. Imo. Who you got, Trey Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Rip Michael K. Williams. I am Chalky White on this

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: one as well. Give me the Nets over the Lakers

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01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: in a smooth five games with Kevin Durant taking home

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Speaker 2: the Finals MVP. When Kevin Durant has been healthy for

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: the last three seasons, he's been the best player in

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Unfortunately, he's had a couple of injuries that

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: have set him back, but when he's able to stay

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Speaker 2: on the court, him and Giannis have been numbers one

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: and two. So my Finals pick is Nets over Lakers.

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Speaker 2: But I think the real NBA Finals is going to

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: be in the Eastern Conference Nets versus Bucks obviously, and

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Speaker 2: I think that this year the Nets are the team

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: that comes out a toe ahead. They win in seven

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 2: games over the Bucks, setting us up for the rubber

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01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: Man in the twenty two to twenty three season. I

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01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: think this is going to be a coronation year for

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, kind of reminding us, oh yeah, this is

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. We're talking about here, because for a guy

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Speaker 2: who's going to go down in history as one of

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: the twenty best ever, he flies under the radar a

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01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: lot of times, and I don't think that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the case this season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it definitely feels that Kevin Durant is going to

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01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: put his stamp on this season. After that playoffs that

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: he had last year, and now that he's got a

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: healthy James Harden back, it's kind of hard to argue

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: against them, Kyrie or not in my opinion. But we

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Speaker 1: will see how the season progresses, and we'll be back

1543
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: on Monday to start talking about the news going on

1544
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: in the league. Maybe we'll talk about predictions that we

1545
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: regret or we want to change already. But we're back

1546
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. Basketball basketball, basketball, basketball, basketball. Also back

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: his skeets on Monday, and I'm sure we'll throw some

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: non basketball in there. You guys are taking care of

1549
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: no buffs, Angle and Survivor going on. I'm sure there'll

1550
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: be a no breaks the F one show that you're

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: doing trade soon enough. Is there a break in the

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: F one?

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01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: There's a break this weekend, no race this weekend. But

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: October twenty fourth is the next ground Prix here in

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: the United States, down in Texas. So yeah, hopefully we'll

1556
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: be able to figure out a good time for a

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: show next week.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. We will see you next week Monday through Friday.

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: Basketball is here. Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us, and remember

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Speaker 2: use code no Dunks at the Trey Kirby Salon for

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Speaker 2: a free leg rub.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Steve Bomber if you're watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you want to get creeped out, come enjoy this clip

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Speaker 1: and brace the weekend. People.

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Speaker 2: You could stay every day.

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Speaker 4: I dan you happy every miny.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long.

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Speaker 1: You're the one I'm waiting for. It's happened already. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be good. Meeting