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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Autos podcast.

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Speaker 4: Your host Rod and here.

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Speaker 3: bulletball Extreme And today I feel like it is a

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Speaker 3: cause for celebration. You know, because of the coronavirus, we've

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Speaker 3: our list of people that we've like had on wanted

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Speaker 4: Yeah, today is no exception.

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Speaker 3: We got our one of our faves, senior contributor to

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Speaker 3: CBC Sports author. Uh, you know I I as soon

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Speaker 3: to be published author, book author. Uh well you know

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Speaker 3: what soon as relatives. Yeah, I'm not gonna let you

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Speaker 3: push me back. No, you're gonna get all this love.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: National National Newspaper Award winner Ted X Talker and Morgan

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Speaker 3: is Morgan, author of sportswriter Morgan Pte Campbell, where I

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Speaker 3: say the peace stands for pre eminently pre eminently published.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 2: Hey man, it's so good to be here. I missed

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Speaker 2: was pre pandemic. But that's a good thing. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I listen, I always make time for you. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Well, first of all, it's been a while

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Speaker 3: we haven't had Morgan on the show.

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Speaker 4: Show minutes. I want to go look.

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Speaker 3: I went to go look before the show started twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: I knew it had been a hot minute. It was November. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Get married and done had a baby.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I was basically yeah, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: you guys interviewed me, right, Yes, that story about cam

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Speaker 2: Newton exactly.

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Speaker 3: So just go ahead, go ahead, catch us up on

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Speaker 3: the last six years.

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Speaker 2: We'll wait, you guys already ran it down. I got married.

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Speaker 2: My wife is in this picture summer, so that's her

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Speaker 2: Now. Yes, I got married pretty in and I got

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be that because the other

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Speaker 2: It's just that like where I live, we're about two

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Speaker 2: wearing masks, Like issues like that have not become politicized

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Speaker 2: you know, and there really is no reason for it,

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Speaker 2: Like the fundamental thing about just like caring about your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well go ahead here. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's said because you have dual citizenship, right, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know, it's probably like a function of like

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Speaker 2: This is what I think. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: I don't because it's always some ship like that where

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Speaker 5: Because I think that for a lot of people, they

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Speaker 4: It's like, yes, you may have been born and.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've been eroding them casually the whole time. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Even with the black face, I feel like y'all got

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Speaker 3: leveraging the blackface to get your prime minister, because like

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Speaker 4: Was like, we're gonna make it to Jerusalem.

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Speaker 5: Come down.

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 4: Reparations for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, except for there earn as many black people here,

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Speaker 2: They're about the same. And then Canadian like black Canadians

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. This morning, I took my business

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Speaker 2: And Canadians get really really really really upset with me

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Speaker 3: And it's like you get up there and you're like, damn,

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Speaker 2: reckoning that US or organizations are having about race and

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Speaker 2: diversity and inclusion and opportunity on Canadian outlets are having

437
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Speaker 2: them to and including and especially the media industry, because

438
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: what happens here too is that everyone likes every outlet

439
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: likes a story about how the other outlets are racist. Right,

440
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: But by the after three weeks, like everyone is successfully

441
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: pointed the finger at every other outlet. It's like the

442
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 2: Batman mean, but eventually everyone gets covered. So that has

443
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: been going on now. And because when I talk to

444
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: like younger journalists, it's funny that people now see me

445
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: as like this og. But I'm like, listen, man, whatever

446
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: you want out of your bosses, go get it right now.

447
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: Because George Floyd was May twenty fifth, right now we're

448
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: in July. We don't know how long all these white

449
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: people are really going to stay committed to this new

450
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: diversity push, this new inclusion push, this new anti racism push.

451
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Speaker 2: Like I was writing the column and the Star, so

452
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Speaker 2: what it feels like is January in the gym. So

453
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you guys you have had intentions, But

454
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is you have a history of bad habits.

455
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: So right now you're really motivated motivation phades, what do

456
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: your habits look like? Your motivation phase, you fall back

457
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: on your habits. If you don't learn some good habits

458
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Speaker 2: between now and the end of your motivation, we're gonna

459
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Speaker 2: be right back to the same thing. So I am

460
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Speaker 2: still very skeptical about like the extent to which all

461
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Speaker 2: these organizations are really committed, you know, to removing the

462
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Speaker 2: glass ceilings that they place over black employees heads, black

463
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Speaker 2: journalists heads. Uh, we'll see, but that you know that

464
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Speaker 2: that reckoning is very much happening here.

465
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Speaker 4: Karon, Yeah, white gill is a finite resource.

466
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Speaker 5: Ye doesn't last forever. And it's one of those things

467
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Speaker 5: where time will tell. And if you go back and

468
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: look at history after slavery was a fool of that

469
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Speaker 5: years and they was like, you know what, we're going

470
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Speaker 5: back right, So you know, that goes to tell you.

471
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Speaker 4: You know, even if it lasts.

472
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Speaker 5: For a quote unquote long period of time, eventually enough

473
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Speaker 5: time will pass where people will forgive, you know, because

474
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 5: the thing is white people want to connect you with

475
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 5: other white people. So they are willing to forgive your

476
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 5: racism because they didn't directly impact them, yes, and they're

477
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Speaker 5: willing to overlook that because when you were talking about

478
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Speaker 5: people from up here acrossing the border and going to Canada,

479
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 5: y'all dealt with some of the same shit we dealt

480
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Speaker 5: with down here. It might not have been on a

481
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Speaker 5: law book, but y'all didn't treat indigenous people right.

482
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Speaker 4: Y'all took their land too, you know, y'all separated.

483
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Speaker 5: Also, so a lot of people think just because you're

484
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Speaker 5: in Canada with maple syrup and shit and everything sweet

485
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Speaker 5: and dandy, and we could speak forty five languages that

486
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Speaker 5: it's also in a lot.

487
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Speaker 2: Of in some places in Canada was on the law books.

488
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Speaker 2: And the difference between Canada and the US is only

489
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Speaker 2: it's not a different. The difference is not whether or

490
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Speaker 2: not white people are racist and the structures are racist

491
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: because they are. Difference is in the proportion of black citizens, right,

492
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Speaker 2: that's it. If there was ever an era in Canada

493
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Speaker 2: where in a certain part of the country more than

494
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Speaker 2: half the people were black, you would see all of

495
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Speaker 2: the same things. Because any place in Canada where there

496
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Speaker 2: have been any significant number of black people, black people

497
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Speaker 2: from those places can tell you about all the racist

498
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Speaker 2: stuff they've had to put up. And so it's not

499
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Speaker 2: a question of whether or not the racism exists. It's

500
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Speaker 2: only a question of the numbers. Canada was ten to

501
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: twelve percent black. If there were regions in Canada that

502
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Speaker 2: were thirty to forty percent black, you would hear different stories. Yeah, Canada,

503
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Speaker 2: because they haven't had a ton of black people for

504
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Speaker 2: a long time in a lot of places. Uh, this

505
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: racism hasn't been put to the test. So all people

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: remember are the stories of the underground girlwad right and

507
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Speaker 2: go on and on.

508
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Speaker 3: And that's what they want to teach you, right, Yes,

509
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: like it's just like down here, like you know, you

510
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 3: learned all the North wasn't racist because you know, they.

511
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Speaker 4: Didn't have Jim Crow, they didn't have that. And you're like,

512
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Speaker 4: they didn't.

513
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Speaker 3: Have black people if you follow the history, until they

514
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Speaker 3: had black people.

515
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Speaker 4: Then everything changed.

516
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: It was like, uh, you know exactly like we don't

517
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Speaker 3: have we don't hang black people up here because there's none,

518
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: because there's a move and they're like, uh, you want

519
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: me to fight in the Civil War for them, Let's

520
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: go hang some.

521
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Speaker 5: You know, the Confederacy was only down south, you know what.

522
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: We was up in Pennsylvania and I guess so we

523
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 5: saw motherfucker Confederate flag, So that ain't nowhere nails North Carolina, right, Listen.

524
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: I saw Confederate flags when Colin Kaepernick the twenty sixteen season,

525
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: so there was then I'm gonna sit out the national

526
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: anthem in the preseason, I'm gonna start kneeling. And then

527
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: he was hurt, so he had a few weeks on

528
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: the injured list and he came back. It was probably

529
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: six or seven weeks into the twenty sixteen season. The

530
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Speaker 2: first game was in Buffalo, so I went to that

531
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Speaker 2: game because Buffalo is maybe from where I was living

532
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: back then in the western suburbs of Toronto, was less

533
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Speaker 2: than a ninety minute dry. So I went to cover

534
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: that game. And while I was driving around the stadium

535
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Speaker 2: looking for parking, I saw Confederate flags. This is in

536
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Speaker 2: suburban in Buffalo, New York. Like, you cannot get any

537
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: closer to Canada than Buffalo or Detroit. You can't get

538
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: further from the Confederacy unless you're in Maine, you know,

539
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: but you can't get further than Buffalo. And here are

540
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: these Confederate flags. And I promise you, guys flying the

541
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Confederate flags in Buffalo, you open a history book to you.

542
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: But this is not the guys. You weren't on their

543
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: side right here they were right It's almost as if

544
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: the flag is not about heritage.

545
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: It's almost that it's almost as if it's about hate.

546
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 4: Not here.

547
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't even conventure to say, like they have the

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: logo backwards, it's the one it's the one thing they

549
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: can all agree on.

550
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: But so also it's funny because you see people and

551
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: every now and then you'll see Canadians, like white Canadians,

552
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: flying that flag and they will tell you it's about

553
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: their Southern heritage and here I am. I'm like, well,

554
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: hey man, uh my grandparents, Like I have two grand

555
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: parents born in Arkansas, I have seven heritage. You don't

556
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: fly that flag. Yeah, I got Carolina got seven heritage.

557
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: Right, there's NASCAR races and I've never been to one either.

558
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: And on the other side of town, I've never been

559
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: to that racetrack.

560
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: My uncle Charlotte the headquarters in NASCAR, but my uncle

561
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: was he worked out there and then he would be

562
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: like he loves racing. He's like, you should come out

563
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: there with me, nephew. And I was like, are they

564
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: still flying that flag? And he's like, well, they're not

565
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: gonna bother you. I was like, no, the flag bothers me.

566
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: I am bothered.

567
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm mad at I'm you know, I'm mad

568
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: enough to.

569
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Speaker 3: Admit I'm bothered from the flag existing in my space.

570
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna tend the thing. And at the

571
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: same time, a couple of years back, I had a

572
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: friend I played basketball with white dude, and it was

573
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: after uh BRE had taken down the flag in South

574
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: Carolina from the state capital, and there was this big

575
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: thing like, oh my god, you know the you know,

576
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: the white people were having a reckoning of like, well

577
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: the flag, and then I think Dylan Rufe had killed

578
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: some people.

579
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: So it was like, what the flag? Why is everyone

580
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: so upset with the Confederate flag?

581
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: It's like and so he was talking to me like,

582
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's more of a heritage thing, you know,

583
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: from being from the South. I said, I'm from the South.

584
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: You know me your whole life. You ain't never seen

585
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: me around that flag. Why do you think that is?

586
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: And he was like, well, it's not a race thing,

587
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's just you know, like family pride and stuff.

588
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: I was like, listen, I'm not gonna because you're my friend,

589
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna cut you out. I'm gonna but because

590
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm black, I'm not gonna necessarily educate you either, because

591
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: I didn't want to, because I was like, it's gonna

592
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: take too much time, and then you need to go

593
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: through a project, like there's a whole white process.

594
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: Yes it is, white people have to go through. You

595
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: have to do that on your own time.

596
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: So instead I just was like, listen, go look up

597
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: win the flag flew, and then look up how long

598
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: it didn't fly, and then look up the time that

599
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: it came back.

600
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: The return just happened to be.

601
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Around the time of some things like the civil rights movement.

602
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: So black lives matter, yeah, well not even black lives matter.

603
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: Civil rights movement that specifically was when this this shit

604
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: didn't fly for like sixty five.

605
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: Years or whatever.

606
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: And then and then black people was like, hey, we

607
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: want freedom, and they was like, hold up, hold up,

608
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: hold up, let me go blow the dust off this

609
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: thing right grandpa's basement.

610
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me go get the start to nine.

611
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, because he is a good dude,

612
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: he came back like, I don't know, man, I didn't

613
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: see that dude for like two or three months, and

614
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: it must have been on his mind back because I

615
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: forgot about the shit.

616
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: You know. I'm black and him down here, so it's

617
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Speaker 4: not It was.

618
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Speaker 3: His Tuesday, and he came in the gym, man, and

619
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: he was so fucking apologetic.

620
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: Man. He was like, man, I didn't know. I just

621
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: feel so ignorant.

622
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Man. You know, that's not what I was taught, I said, dude,

623
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: none of us were taught any of this shit in school.

624
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Like I learned it too. Like I didn't learn it

625
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: in school.

626
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: I just knew it because I was black, but I

627
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: didn't see it in writing until I was a grown up.

628
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 3: So you know, I think that's that's the thing, is

629
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: a unifying signal, symbol, and.

630
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is, right, it's it's it's it's

631
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: it's signal to racist no matter where they are on

632
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: the map. Because I've seen that flag in Michigan.

633
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: They got it in f they have it in Germany,

634
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: places where you can't, like we can't fly swastika.

635
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: Let's pull this out, yes, because it means the same thing.

636
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: The remix remix on this racism. Let's put it overseas. Also, Morgan,

637
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, as a sports writer, you know and soon

638
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: to be published author soon soon being a relative term, exactly. Okay, So,

639
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: like what exactly is the process for you to get

640
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: your like, you know, your book deal thing?

641
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: Like how did like how did that go? Like what

642
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: what was the.

643
00:31:53,680 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Okay? So what had happened was uh, back in December,

644
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: like I always I had been playing with the idea

645
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: of writing a book, and people would saying you should

646
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: write a book, you should write a memoir. I just

647
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: never had the time. And so when we work in

648
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: the daily newspaper, industry. One of the things that consumes

649
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: a lot of your time and energy is like the

650
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: financial health of your company. Right every day looking at

651
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: the stock to shoot, we're down thirty six cents. That's

652
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: not good, right, I could buy a significant percentage of

653
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: the company, like with the change I have in my pocket.

654
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: And so when you worry about these things, and there

655
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: were other things I knew I could do, but I

656
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: also had this day job. It was taking that most

657
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: of my time and energy. And so towards the end

658
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: of like November, the company was like, hey, you want

659
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: to buy people out? And I always told myself to,

660
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: especially when you work at a place that just keeps

661
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: you under the glass ceiling, you know. And I would

662
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: try to get promoted, and like these managers always had

663
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: some reason why it wasn't my time. So, oh you're

664
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: too young, you're too old to this, or to that,

665
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: you're not this enough other people need There's always some

666
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: reason why I couldn't advance, right, just kept me on

667
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: this treadmill. And so, and I always told myself, every

668
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: time I offer a buyout, I'm gonna go ask HR

669
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: to run my numbers. And once I get to like

670
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: a year's salary. I'm leaving either unless they promote me.

671
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: So whichever comes first, the year's buyout or the promotion.

672
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: And so like five years later, five buy hours later,

673
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: you get to this year they offer the buyouts, they

674
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: run the number, and like fifty three weeks ago, I'm gone,

675
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: what was massa? If I had to ask my wife,

676
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: she's like, yet leave and she's like, we still get

677
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: the benefits for you, right, I'm like, yeah, so you know,

678
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: go get go get massage to go pay for it.

679
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: She's like, perfect, go so back. So I took the buyout,

680
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: not knowing exactly what I wanted to do, but having,

681
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, an idea. And the thing was, I figured

682
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: I could like for because the money's just coming in,

683
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: and I could just freelance for a while, even though

684
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: freelancing is really precarious, but just do just enough to

685
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: like push back my I guess I need a new

686
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: nine to five date. You know, so when you anytime

687
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: someone leaves a job in journals, can do this Twitter

688
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: thread about your leaving and hear what you want to

689
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: do with thanks for the blah blah blah. And so

690
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned in this thread that I'm you know that

691
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: I've been just tinkering with the book idea. And so

692
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: the head of publicity from Penguin Random House Canada just

693
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: jumps into my DMS like, hey, you want to write

694
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: about we should meet? Like so, I'm like, okay, cool,

695
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: let's meet and so. And the thing about him is

696
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: Twitter avatar is like a gorilla. So I didn't recognize

697
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: his face.

698
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: And just as an aside, it's amazing how many people

699
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: that are super influential and slash like powerful in different

700
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: industries don't really have much of a social media presence in.

701
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: That type of way.

702
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: Well you really be like, this is got one hundred

703
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: and fifty followers, CEO of Random I guess.

704
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: I guess I'll meet with a dog avatar.

705
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: I guess.

706
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: But it happens all the time.

707
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: Get followed by people and it be like, you know,

708
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: head of diversity Inclusion at ABO.

709
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I guess I'll follow him back.

710
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: Right.

711
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

712
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: So when I went and met with him and I

713
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: saw his face, I was like, oh wait, I knew

714
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: this guy. We used to work out at the same gym.

715
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: It was a small gym, so like the gym was

716
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: like the community we all knew each other. So I

717
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: was like, okay, that's why the guy was just like

718
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: emailing me like he knew me. Now he wasn't just

719
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: super presentious. It's like we actually didn't know each other.

720
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: I just you know, all seeing is Gorilla Avatar, right,

721
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: So and so you know, I tell him my concept.

722
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: I was like, have you ever read a book called

723
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: Boy Wonders by a Caohol Kelly. It's like a memoir,

724
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: but it's an essays of the writer, really good writer.

725
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: He's a collumists at the Global Mail in Toronto, used

726
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: to work for me. At the start, He's like yeah,

727
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: He's like, do I know that book? I commissioned it.

728
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: It's like okay, perfect. I was like, have you ever

729
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: heard of What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Black? Or

730
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: by Dami Young? He's like yeah. I was like, well,

731
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: so think of something that kind of splits the difference

732
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: between those two books. That's what I want to write.

733
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: And so he's like, perfect, can you get me a

734
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: proposal in a month? I'm like sure. So that was

735
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: like middle of February.

736
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: Wow.

737
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: And then I scrambled these things like when you have

738
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: a baby in the house, how much time you think

739
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: you have, you don't really have right, right, So like

740
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: these days, I'm I have like morning news anchor hours,

741
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Like I go to bed by like eight thirty. I'm

742
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: up at three in the morning. Because your time to

743
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: work is from three am to when the baby wakes up.

744
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: You think going to get more work than after the dayweight,

745
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: but you're not gonna chase a baby all day. That's it.

746
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, So I got the proposal together, I said

747
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: to him in the middle of March, and that's just

748
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: when a pandemic was really starting to hit and so

749
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: and then I just forgot about it because the thing

750
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: is like the other thing I'm doing with CBC, Like

751
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: that deal took like months and months and months and months,

752
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: and we're still with CBC talking about a podcast. We're

753
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: finally gonna do it. We started talking about two years ago.

754
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: So I'm just thinking this stuff is gonna take whatever.

755
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: I literally forgot about it, and then you know, two

756
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: weeks later, he's like, I love the proposal. I'm sorry

757
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: this is taking so long for me for him to

758
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: email you back in two weeks. I thought this thing

759
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: was happening really fast. He's over here apologizing for this

760
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: stuff taking so long, and then every two weeks he's

761
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: up dat and he's like, I showed it to some

762
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: new people. They liked it, so some other people they

763
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: liked it. So at a certain point, I'm like, hey, man,

764
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: do I need an agent right now or not? He's like, yeah,

765
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: you should probably call an agent. And I'm like, well,

766
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: who would you recommend. He's like, Martha Webb, you working

767
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: through all the time because the industry is yeah, everyone

768
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 2: who succeeds in the industry, like it's not because someone

769
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: reached the path for you, but the industry is very incestuous.

770
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: So like the agency and the publisher, like they are

771
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: literally in the same building. But Martha Weber's a really

772
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: good agent because I call a couple of people who

773
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: she's worked with, and so I sent it to the

774
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 2: senter proposal to the agent. She liked it, and then

775
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: from there it's just a matter of doing the contract.

776
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: Like they make the preliminary offer and they offer you

777
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: the advance. The advance I described as book industry generous,

778
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: but like it's not a lot of money, right, right,

779
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: it's not a lot of money. Like if you think

780
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: you're going to write a book and that's going to

781
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: be your job, and you keep your you're not because

782
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: the sum total of the advance is divided by four.

783
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: So you get a check when you sign, you get

784
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: a check. When you hand in the manuscript, you get

785
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: a check. When the book hits the stories, you get

786
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: a check. Okay, And my agent said, do you want

787
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: to frontload this advanced? I was like, hell, no, I

788
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: want the four checks because I want that check a

789
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: year after be published, because it'll feel like royalties if

790
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: I have two copies, it feels like.

791
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: So ta take a picture of the check, put it

792
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: up on your You have to save that for the

793
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: mouth flex that it can be in a year. Like,

794
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 3: you know, even if the book goes double wood, you be.

795
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: Like still getting book money over here, you know. But

796
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: you know, y'all carry on with y'all, y'all.

797
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, and so from there, like and Help said,

798
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: I had a good agent. Helps she had a good

799
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: relationship with the publisher. But from there it's just a

800
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: lot of like hurry up and wait. So they're like, uh, hey,

801
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: this is probably the beginning. You then like we'll have

802
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: the contract done by probably the beginning is alive. Nothing

803
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: you hear anything and then one day they pop up like, hey,

804
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: can we put pictures in your memoir? We want to

805
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: have eight pages of pictures, and I'm like you and

806
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: then they're like okay, cool, and then you just don't

807
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: hear from them for three weeks and then like literally

808
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: last week Thursday, they're just like, hey, here's the contract

809
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: sign it, Like after weeks and weeks and weeks of

810
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: hearing nothing, like, here's the final contract sign it, and

811
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: then there it went, and then like the announcement when official,

812
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: I guess yesterday. But that literally that was the process

813
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: for me. But it did the things that helped me,

814
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: like I'm not famous, but I write, and so like

815
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: the book people, they still follow like the local news

816
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: media industry, so they get to know who the good

817
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: writers are and all this, and so that really helped me.

818
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: The fact that I worked out at the gym with

819
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: the guy didn't hurt, but at the same time, like

820
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: I could have taken with this agent that same proposal

821
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: to any other publishing house and got closed, right, But

822
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: it was the fact that I was like a veteran

823
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: because the thing they want to know about in the

824
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: proposal too, is like what kind of platform you have

825
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Where does the book fit into the marketplace? How can

826
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: you help us sell your book? So I was able

827
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: to tell them all that only because you know, I've

828
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: been around social media and I've seen this thing, uh

829
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: in other ways for other people.

830
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: And then you got like, you know, the white guilt way, man,

831
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: you gotta rod that shit. So like you know, that's

832
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: probably that's probably why they was like not talking for

833
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: a while.

834
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: That was like throw this ship in the trash.

835
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: We just and it was like and then it was like,

836
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: oh wait, they've burning down buildings.

837
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: It's the other way. Like I if I was pitching

838
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: this book now, I could probably wrangle a bigger advancement people.

839
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah right, and this is the thing like, yeah,

840
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: everything that's happened this happened for me, like in the

841
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: last month or so. People think it's all happened overnight,

842
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: and this is all stuff we've been talking about since.

843
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: Like so like if you had to do if you

844
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: had to do the proposal now, you could be like

845
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: it's like the fire next time.

846
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: We were eight years in power.

847
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: Entanglement.

848
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the autobiography of Malcolm X. You know think that

849
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Uh Nah, that's but that's

850
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: dope though.

851
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: Man.

852
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: You know, I like to think that we are very

853
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: good purveyors of talent and uh, you know, the blackout

854
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 3: tills bump. It might not move fast, Okay, it might

855
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: take a few years, but eventually all our people seem

856
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: to be doing well.

857
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: Man, I love to see it.

858
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 3: Also, writing for sports Man one in the time of coronavirus,

859
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: how has that changed because sports kind of stopped, but

860
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: the stories didn't necessarily start stopping.

861
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: It's like it's like.

862
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: The the thing that white people always lie about and say, like,

863
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: just stick to sports, we only want to talk about sports.

864
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: This completely bleww Like it completely pulled the rug from

865
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: under that line. That myth, because it's like there is

866
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: no sports for the most part until very recently, but

867
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: sports journalism still has to happen. Your site still needs traffic,

868
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: Your the athletes are still human beings. They're going to

869
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: talk about things that are happening in society.

870
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: Now it can't.

871
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: There are no stats to report, there are no games

872
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: to write about. So it's almost like, in a weird way,

873
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: the lie that they said about Kaepernick and Jamail Hill,

874
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: and it's like they have to confront it now there's

875
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: no choice.

876
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: You you have to be able to write about these things.

877
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: So has that changed the landscape or is there still

878
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 3: like a resistance even without sports to be like, hey,

879
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: can you leave the race out of this shit?

880
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: So even even let's say George Floyd never happened reckon

881
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Race and the Sportsman, you still have the pandemic, right,

882
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: And the thing is like, you can't write about any

883
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: of these sports outside the context of the pandemic. You

884
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: can't discuss the pandemic outside the context politics, like you

885
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: should be able to. But every uh, every step technique

886
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: program in place or that should be in place to

887
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: mitigate and contain this pandemic has become politicized. So you

888
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: cannot separate all these things. Like the challenge is finding

889
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: people who are who can speak intelligently like across these

890
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: topics and so like right now, I would see a

891
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: better Marlin's coronavirus story on MSNBC than I would from

892
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: these baseball writers are only trained to think about these

893
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: things in terms of baseball because baseball guys are like, well,

894
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: but there was a baseball writer who had a tweet

895
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: the other day. That's only one person from the Phillies

896
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: tested positive and he was a clubhouse attendant and not

897
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: a player. So that's great news. Like, I guess it's

898
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: really unless you're a guy or his family.

899
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually interact with each other. I hope they

900
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: know that and they don't just.

901
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it does. He touches your shoes, he

902
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: puts locker, he's breathing on your stuff by I him.

903
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: What's the fact that, like there's an invibation period if

904
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: I test positive, Sorry, if I test negative today, it

905
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I won't test negative. I won't test positive.

906
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Leader take time for the virus to show up, or

907
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: there are like the Andrew Brandt I think his name was,

908
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: is an NFL network guy, and so he was complaining

909
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: about sports media people people who cover the NFL, hoping

910
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: that the NFL doesn't play right. You guys make your

911
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: living from this. I don't get it, Like, what is

912
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: there not to get about wanting people not to get sick?

913
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: But the virus, the virus is not the home team

914
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter points.

915
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're rooting for it or not.

916
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't get like it's not like coronavirus is, like, oh,

917
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: they want us to win.

918
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go infect from people.

919
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Care everything care about it?

920
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, away, visitor, I don't care.

921
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: It's like the movie The Terminator, the first one, whereas

922
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: like when Reese is describing it, he's just like, it

923
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: doesn't have any feelings.

924
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't have like, yes, that's the virus. It doesn't

925
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: it's a robot. It doesn't have a hard It don't care.

926
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: You can either be smart and not and try not

927
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: to die, make it at least hard for it to

928
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: kill you, or you can run headlong and the like

929
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: diving into like coronavirus.

930
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Uh the analogy I uses.

931
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

932
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: The sports industry treats this pandemic like the Golden State

933
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: Warriors treated Kevin durant Achilles tangents. Right, So here's this guy,

934
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 2: he's clearly injured, right, every time he tries to do something,

935
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: hurts himself again. But they're just looking at the calendar.

936
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: They're like, well, the NBA Finals, like it, she'll be fine,

937
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: has shown you you'll be fine. No, but like it's

938
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: a big game, you'll be fine. It's a big game,

939
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: saying one piece because the leg knows and everyone, everyone

940
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: is surprised that this happened. Steve Kerr, who's been an

941
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: athlete in the coach's whole life, and said well in

942
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: his news conference saying, well, he had a cash train.

943
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think that would compromise his achilles tendon. Like

944
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: what tendon does? Your cap mustle a teach geniuses, the

945
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: coach that we think is smart, right, yeah, true, right behind, yes,

946
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: and so this is us and the virus. Right. Well,

947
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: it's July for NFL training camps to start. There's more

948
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: cases now than there were two weeks ago. But this

949
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: single back off because it cares about football. This single

950
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: fighters don't care about football. Breathing on each other.

951
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: Wow, we just do football when they just all pal

952
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: on top of each other and in a big ass huddle,

953
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: let's go ahead.

954
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: And yes, So six weeks from now, we're gonna have

955
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: all these other outbreaks and everyone's gonna be acting surprised

956
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: if this happened. This is the other thing, Uh, sports

957
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: fans don't get, like the sports fans who think we

958
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: have to play through this, right, Like, like that next

959
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: man up mentality is very pervasive. Right, you're hurt, you

960
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: get the next guy. You're hurt, getting the next guy. Cool,

961
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: but you can't. Really, there's only so many next men

962
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: when you're talking about elite athletes, right, because once you

963
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: get to the fourth next man up, you're talking about

964
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: minor leaguers. You get to the fifth or sixth next

965
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: man up, you're you know, you're into like better than

966
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: regular people, but mediocre by pro standards players. So if

967
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: you're a concern is for the if you're even if

968
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: you're only concerns for the quality of the product on

969
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: the field, right, you got to understand it. It's time

970
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: to step back. Because I promise the people who will

971
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: be available to play Major League Baseball and NFL Football

972
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: six weeks from now after there's virus heresy, all these

973
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: teams are not people that you're gonna want to pay

974
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: to see, or not people that you're gonna want to

975
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: watch your Saturday afternoon. Uh watch that you're gonna want

976
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: to spend your Saturday afternoon watching on television. These are

977
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: just gonna be dudes, and they do you.

978
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 5: Know what, They're gonna be student athletes and that's what.

979
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 4: They need to be at home today.

980
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 5: At least the professionals get paid.

981
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 6: You want me to take my black ass out there

982
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 6: for free?

983
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: No yes, no money, no money, no union. Right.

984
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: And the thing is, I think it's so weird because

985
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: sports is the opiate of the masses, you know. It's

986
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: like this, uh like like that's the thing. I love

987
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: quote unquote sports, But I really just like the stuff

988
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: around sports, right. I like the gossip. I like seeing

989
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: black people get rich, you know, like the cultural shit,

990
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 3: you know. But like I'm not I'm not so committed

991
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: to this idea of.

992
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: Like the game the game because it's not that important.

993
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: I feel like sports is just this big ass distraction

994
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: for us to funnel our like murderous rage and blood

995
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: lust and all the shit that they used to get

996
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: out in the Gladiator piss. It's just that until we die.

997
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: Like it's like no one wants to think if you

998
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: know what, you're dying. Every breath you're taking, you're getting

999
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: closer to not exist. You won't be here one day.

1000
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: But Michael Jordan is really good at shooting the basketball

1001
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: and this thing, and we should give him millions of

1002
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: dollars because every time he plays for two and a half.

1003
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: Hours, we're not thinking about dying anymore.

1004
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: We're not thinking about failing marriages and fucking the abuse

1005
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: that we're experiending all this shit, right, we're not thinking.

1006
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: About race, that's all this shit is.

1007
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: So there's a pandemic that's coming to kill everybody, and

1008
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: the one way to stop it is for people not

1009
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: gathering and not doing shit. And people are so addicted

1010
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: to this fucking like distraction that they're like, nah, we

1011
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: want to fell arenas. We want players to be like,

1012
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: they're like risking their lives. We want to sit on

1013
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: our couches if we're gonna be stuck in the house

1014
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: and watch them risk their lives.

1015
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: Other and that, which is which is.

1016
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: Fine, except we handle this the wrong way the entire

1017
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 3: fucking time.

1018
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: So, like there's places where they're playing.

1019
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: If you put it on ESPN today, you'll see people

1020
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: playing soccer somewhere.

1021
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: It ain't exactly like it used to be. But they

1022
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: did the things we don't even want to do. The things.

1023
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 4: We're just like, let these niggas dine in the NFL

1024
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: so we can put some on TV. They're gonna be

1025
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: out the future. I'm a robots playing football.

1026
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I watch because I keep these

1027
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: weird hours now, like I wind up seeing KBO baseball

1028
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: and like rugby from New Zealand and Australia, like I

1029
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: see it live now because I wake up at three. Hey,

1030
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: this is the New Zealand Warriors against the Melbourne Storm. Perfect.

1031
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: But uh the other thing Americans FORTSU Miami of ah,

1032
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: so we watch everybody watched the last Dance, right and

1033
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: we read the Jordan rules.

1034
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah some of it. I haven't finished it, okay, yeah.

1035
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Well you know we read the Jordan rules. This this

1036
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: this spring and Cliff Leatherston from the Bulls, right, he

1037
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: was like this, uh probably seventh man. You know, you

1038
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: come and get you some rebounds stuff like that. But

1039
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: he came to the Bulls in debt. He had to

1040
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: get a two hundred thousand dollars advance on his salad

1041
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: because he left Atlanta had all this debt. Having Cliff

1042
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: levingson wind up with this debt. Clif Levingston used to

1043
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: hang out with Dominique Wilkins. Dominique Wilkins was NBA rinch

1044
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: like for you know, NBA players didn't make them what

1045
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: they make now. But whatever is the most of the

1046
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: NBA players can make back in those days, Dominique Bilkins

1047
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: is making right, so he's making in the millions probably

1048
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: high seven figures, close to eight whatever they could pay him.

1049
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: And he's Cliff Levingston making probably seven to fifty right.

1050
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: But Chris Levingston thinks he and Dominie Wilkins are peers.

1051
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: So Dominique buys the Benz, Cliff Levingston buys the Bens,

1052
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: Dominie buys another one, Clint Levingson buys another one. Dominie says,

1053
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't feel like any driving any of these luxury

1054
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: cars to the game today. I'm gonna take a Limo,

1055
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Quick Levan says. I says, I'm gonna do the same thing. Now,

1056
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: Dominique can afford that. Quick Levingston cans. Dominique does all

1057
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: this stuff, and he does not miss the money. Cliff

1058
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: Levingston winds up in debt, begging his next team to

1059
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: give him an advance so he can just you know,

1060
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: keep the doors open on his house. So the US

1061
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: is like Cliff Levingston, and the US sports industry is

1062
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: Cliff Legendston. In New Zealand and Korea, they're Dominique. They

1063
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: can afford to do all this in New Zealand, Australia,

1064
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: Korea because they did the work on the front end

1065
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: is the US doing next nothing to control the pandemic.

1066
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: But they want New Zealand perks, they want Australia perks,

1067
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: they want Taiwan perks. It don't work that way, and

1068
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't matter how much like you try

1069
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: to force it to work that way, right, because the

1070
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: other thing it exposes is just like the callousness not

1071
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: just of the ownership class, but of the fan base

1072
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: who treat these pro athletes. And the thing is, every

1073
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: group of people are about to enumerate deserves, dignity and

1074
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: safe working conditions regardless of what is convenient for the consumer.

1075
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: But the same people that say that know that there's

1076
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: a coronavirus outbreak. It's a meatpacking plant. But don't shut

1077
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: down a meat packing plant. Don't down production, don't give

1078
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: these people time off. You know why? Because I want

1079
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: cheap steak, right. I don't care if I can still

1080
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: get the steak I'm not. I don't want to. I

1081
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: want to cheap right, right, So the NFL listen, don't

1082
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: shut it down. Let these guys get sick. They'll recover.

1083
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: But I want my football. And I'm not even paying

1084
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: anything but attention. I'm I'm bootlegging the cable. I got

1085
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: ip TV and I'm just paying attention. That's the only

1086
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: thing I'm paying. But I want it. Yeah, I want it,

1087
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: and I don't care if you get hurt. Give me

1088
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: what I want, which is callous and privileged, in humane,

1089
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: but this is where we are.

1090
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: I do wonder what happens, like does someone have to die,

1091
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: you know, like does a coach get sick and die?

1092
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: Does a player have.

1093
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: To be like have a debilitating uh time with it

1094
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: or something like that, Because I do wonder if that's

1095
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: the thing that makes everyone back off, because this because

1096
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: I can't imagine this going well, and I can't, don't you.

1097
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 4: Know, I can't.

1098
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I can't imagine them not

1099
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: trying to power through. The Marlins just had seventeen people

1100
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: test positive and this, and they're like, Okay, we won't

1101
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: play until Monday.

1102
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: Like what the fuck is that You're.

1103
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: Gonna get seventeen people y major league level? Right? Because

1104
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 2: even listen, under the best of circumstances, when minor league

1105
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: baseball is active and you got triple A double, A

1106
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: high A low A rookie ball, you lose seventeen people

1107
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: at once. You're not gonna find seventeen people from amongst

1108
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: your minor league teams who can step in and play. Right,

1109
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: So now these guys with the minor league teams shut down,

1110
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: think you're just gonna find seventeen people who are major

1111
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: League ready on today's notice and who can also pass

1112
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: the coronavirus test. It's not gonna happen. But the thing

1113
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: is this person like you ever like you so nice

1114
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: they would have to literally die on the field.

1115
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: Well, if you lose, if you lose seventeen people, that's

1116
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 3: they make movies. They may we are marshall about a

1117
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: team losing seventeen people.

1118
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: People. These motherfuckers have seventeen people out.

1119
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: And they're just like give them another week and then

1120
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: we think we can make we can make it work.

1121
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: And you know what, it's one of those things where

1122
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 5: it's like they know, snap his fingers, and half of

1123
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 5: the population in America got coronavirus, right. The other half

1124
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: we're just trying to deal with the aftermath of all

1125
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 5: these people dying. It's like, this doesn't make sense because piggyback, piggyback.

1126
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: And know what you were saying.

1127
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 5: I feel as though, like I said, it's cruellys callous

1128
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 5: to say you won't sports, but yet you won't leave

1129
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: your house. Most people work from home, so you so

1130
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 5: me in my office space. I don't want to go in.

1131
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to deal with people around me. But you,

1132
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 5: the person that entertains me, need to go to your

1133
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 5: working environment if you're you're working.

1134
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: But you know what they feel that they feel that

1135
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: way about everyone. They feel that way about the grocery

1136
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: store worker, they feel that way about uh shit, they

1137
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: feel that way about the politicians, They feel that way

1138
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: about you know, the people that work at Amazon. They

1139
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: then the entitlement and convenience of like, come to me,

1140
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: is what all these people are.

1141
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 4: Living in right now? And then when you throw in

1142
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 4: the racial.

1143
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 3: Element that a lot of these people making all this

1144
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: money as athletes are black.

1145
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 4: You know, they don't care about these motherfuckers, like.

1146
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: No, no, They think of these black athletes exactly the

1147
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: same way they think of a lot of these Latino

1148
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: and Latina uh farm workers. Yes, right, yes, get out here,

1149
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: work yourself to death. Yeah, I know it's dangerous, but

1150
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: you you this is what you signed up for when

1151
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: you came here. Yeah, what I want? What I want

1152
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: is oranges for sixty nine cents of pounds, So get out.

1153
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, and take off that Black Lives Matter stuff

1154
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: and get it away from my basketball court.

1155
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: Like I know that what they're thinking.

1156
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: Man, Like that's the It does seem like of the

1157
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: people that are, you know, trying to play sports, the

1158
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: NBA has the most like at least thought out playing

1159
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: so far.

1160
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to.

1161
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: Control it as much as we possibly can. We know

1162
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 5: rat won't be zero, but we telling you one thing.

1163
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 5: Once your ass is in this bubble, you almost in.

1164
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: The bubble, well you can leave, but there's like a

1165
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: precautions to get back in. Like Lou Williams left, they

1166
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: made a big deal and he went to get some wings,

1167
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: to get some at the Strip Club and they was

1168
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: like at the Strip Club and there was like, well

1169
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: he gets back, he has to be quarantined for ten

1170
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: days and miss two games.

1171
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: It's like that.

1172
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: Actually everyone has to do that. Anyone who leaves the

1173
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: bubble has to be quarantined for ten days and if

1174
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: you miss games, you miss games. So that's not this

1175
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: punishment or whatever, it's just the protocol. But like they

1176
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: seem to have thought this out and Honestly.

1177
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: They were in a better position.

1178
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: Their season was already underway, they had they could mostly

1179
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: isolate it down to just like these teams have a

1180
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: chance of being in the postseason and playing more. We

1181
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: can we unlike the NFL and probably baseball too, you

1182
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: can reuse the same like arena over and over and

1183
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 3: over again, as opposed to you know, football, you can't

1184
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: play no fucking back.

1185
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: To back game. Some confitent.

1186
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: Like these other sports really need to consider that they

1187
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: just can't do it. I think, if I'm not mistaken,

1188
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: in the MLB, didn't Toronto didn't they just have to

1189
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: leave Canada like they don't they can't play games.

1190
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah they had so they had training camp here in Toronto.

1191
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: But in terms of having a season, yeah, the federal government,

1192
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 2: the provincial government which is run by Doug Ford, the

1193
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Cracksmoking mayor's brother, the Donald Trump want to be uh

1194
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: they said yeah, you guys can play. But then the

1195
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: federal government said no, but we control the border. You

1196
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: already have this rule. We don't let people into Canada,

1197
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: so we can't have all these teams full of people

1198
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: just flying in and.

1199
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 4: Out of here.

1200
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: If you if you if you come to Canada, if

1201
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: we let you in, you still have to sit around

1202
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: for two weeks under quarantine, right, which doesn't work with

1203
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball schedule. And so yeah, the Jays,

1204
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays had to, like there's a point where

1205
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: they were going to go to Pittsburgh. There's a point

1206
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: they're going to go to Baltimore because they didn't want

1207
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: to play in Buffalo. That's where their farm team is.

1208
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: But Buffalo is kind of a it's a minor league ballpark,

1209
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: but Buffalo is where they're stuck. But like, that decision

1210
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: was lightly politicized around here. But even again, even most

1211
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: conservative leaning Canadians understand that there's science, right, you know,

1212
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: and the the federal government isn't making this decision to

1213
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: punish the DJs or to punishment baseball. It's just the

1214
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: fact that here, especially around Toronto, you know, it wasn't

1215
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: as bad as New York, but by Canadian standards, the

1216
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: peak of the pandemic, ah, it was bad enough. And

1217
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: they've finally gotten this thing under control. You know, they're

1218
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: down some like five new cases a day in Toronto,

1219
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: and Toronto has five million people, which you know, and

1220
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: and so once you've made that kind of progress, Like

1221
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: why would you wouldn't do it by letting seventeen uh

1222
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: COVID positive Florida marlins show up right in your city

1223
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: and start coughing on stuff. Makes sense, Well you're.

1224
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: Gonna say something, yeah, and I agree.

1225
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 5: And like you say, once they get there, they're gonna

1226
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 5: want to move around, they're gonna want to go out,

1227
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 5: they're gonna get so it's not like they get there

1228
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: and they stay in that location. And that's the problem

1229
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 5: you can't control.

1230
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 4: They don't been through the airport.

1231
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 5: They done flight attendants, like, so they're coming in contact

1232
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 5: with all these people there, you know, the people that

1233
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 5: clean the room, the hotel people. So these are a

1234
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: lot of people that they're coming in contact with. So

1235
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: this one person can end up affecting a lot of

1236
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 5: other people.

1237
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: And think about that stuffy air on an airplane, right,

1238
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: getting recycled.

1239
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: Right, and people getting sick on airplanes before the pand

1240
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: of time, Like it's like a running thing. It's like

1241
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: you get on the airplane, you're probably gonna get sick,

1242
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: like get a little cold.

1243
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: I was on the airplane. And now it's like y'all

1244
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 4: want to play with coronam M what do you think

1245
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: about what do you think about this?

1246
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior, uh uh.

1247
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: I shouldn't laugh, bucket list fight. What do you think

1248
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 4: about this? Even in the same weight class?

1249
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 5: Confuse, I don't think and it's an exhibition, okay, if so.

1250
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: Now Chris was twenty years ago, even but even twenty

1251
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: years ago, Tyson was like indeclined. He's not the right

1252
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: Tyson that people think Tyson think of when they think

1253
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: of Mike Tyson.

1254
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: I think they keep saying these Instagram videos and I

1255
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 3: think they keep thinking, man, he would beat the ship

1256
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: up out of me, but he's not gonna be fighting you.

1257
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, like that's the It's

1258
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: this weird thing that happens with Mike Tyson with people,

1259
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: like it's like.

1260
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 4: We forget every fight he lost.

1261
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: We forget like the times that he like talked a

1262
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: whole bunch of shit leading up to the fight, and

1263
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: he's like, I want.

1264
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: To kill you.

1265
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna get your children's word to all

1266
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: law and ship We'd be like, oh my god, he's

1267
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna murder this nigga.

1268
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: And then he get in the ring and he'd be like,

1269
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: all right, he got my check man. All right.

1270
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 7: Here's the thing about Mike Tyson, Like what you described like,

1271
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 7: that's because it's a cycle. Yeah, has been going on

1272
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 7: literally since June of nineteen eighty eight, thirty two years.

1273
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 7: Mike Tyson peeked in June of nineteen eighty eight, he

1274
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 7: beat Michael Spinx. That was the best Mike Tyson ever

1275
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: Gonna see, anytime Michael Tyson goes away, he comes back,

1276
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 7: he's worse.

1277
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: Yes, he went away, so he beat up Michael Sphinx,

1278
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: and there was the divorce and the car crash. He

1279
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: came back, he fought Frank Frank Bruno. He beat Frank Bruno,

1280
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: but he wasn't as good, right, And that's when people

1281
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: started being able to touch Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson

1282
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: has always been so good at selling the idea that

1283
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: he's indestructively that people just are willing to overlook that.

1284
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: So eventually he loses to Buster Douglas, comes back, builds

1285
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: himself up. But even the last two fights he had

1286
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: before he went to prison against Razor Ruddick, who was

1287
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: from Toronto, Like those are brutal fights and like Mike

1288
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: Tyson givenom credit like he had a chin back then,

1289
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: but he was getting touched, like these fights against the

1290
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: lead heavyweights are competitive. He wasn't steamrolling people. Then he

1291
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: goes to jail. But the thing about when he went

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01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: to prison was like that allowed the mythmaking to fill

1293
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: the boy of what he actually had to office. So

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: he comes out of prison, he is significantly diminished, but

1295
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: the aura is re established, the idea is re established.

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01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Here's the idea of Mike Tyson steamrolling like all these

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01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: over overmatched opponents, and they put him with the banded Holyfield,

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: and the vander Holyfield was the first guy that Tyson

1299
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: face post prisoner. Wasn't scared of Tyson, right, and so

1300
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: he kicked Tyson's ass two times. But again we're talking

1301
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: about stuff happened twenty five years ago. But Tyson puts

1302
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: out an Instagram video and suddenly people think he can

1303
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: be like current heavyweights. There's no way. But what this,

1304
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: what this fight is about, is basically promoting like his

1305
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: new social this new app Triller supposed to be like

1306
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: the next kiktok I was writing about this uh for

1307
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: CDC the other day, like there are so many next

1308
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: so many apps that are supposed to be a better

1309
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: the next version of something that people already have that

1310
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: come and go like maywhetheroid maywhether have one called shots

1311
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: Shots are supposed to be the next Instagram? Who has

1312
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: shots on the phone and y'all got shots on your front? No,

1313
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 2: there's one called SU's supposed to be the next Twitter

1314
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: and you would get paid, like the users would get paid.

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01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: Somebody ad money? Who had Who has swo on their phone? Nobody?

1316
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know that this fight is gonna make

1317
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: Triller into the next TikTok, because there already is a TikTok, right. Well,

1318
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: we do know is it's like it's it's dangerous one

1319
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: to do this during the pandemic. Two old guys fighting.

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01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: Good chance, even though it's an exhibition, it's a good

1321
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: chance somebody got to go to the hospital, and the

1322
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: hospitals are full of COVID patients. And the fact that,

1323
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: like the brain is a delicate instrument man. And one

1324
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: of the things we've learned and I've learned like covering

1325
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: boxing and talking to neurologies, is that the older, yet

1326
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: the less trauma your brain can absorb. And a lot

1327
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: of these traumatic brain injuries have come with fighters who

1328
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: are close to forty in their forty like, you cannot

1329
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: your brain can't absorb it. So here comes Roy Jones,

1330
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: who has been on the receiving end off some of

1331
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: the most gruesome lockouts in recent memory. Right, but he's

1332
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: not the only vulnerable one here, because Mike Tyson is

1333
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: an old man too, So he's he's in great shape

1334
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: for a fifty four year old, and I give him

1335
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: all kinds of credit. But if they're not using like

1336
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: like the big celebrity boxing gloves and like football helmets

1337
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: or something like, it doesn't take a lot to seriously injure,

1338
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: especially once that fifty four year old and that fifty

1339
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: one year old starts getting tired, like, it doesn't take

1340
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: a ton, And so that is my concern, and I

1341
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: just don't understand too Like we as a sports public,

1342
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: anytime a boxer fights too long, you say that guy

1343
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 2: fought too long. And then the guy retires young, we say, well,

1344
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: why did you retire? Why don't you keep coming back? Right,

1345
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: Like this guy like that guy move up in weight class,

1346
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: fight that guy as much as people like Mayweather fought

1347
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: well past the stale date he came back he was forty,

1348
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: because it was it was easy money to beat up

1349
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: on Connor McGregor. Like we're still talking about Losy gonna.

1350
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 3: Come back, and it's not like we say that, And

1351
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: it's not even like the fans say that you have

1352
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: some deeper body respect, like they Mayweather fought past the

1353
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 3: expiration date, still never got beat and they still be

1354
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: like this nigg ain't ship. Man, you know what, the

1355
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 3: next dude can whoop his ass, Like when they got

1356
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: to Connor McGregor, I was like, man, get the fuck

1357
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: out of my face.

1358
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: Dude, it's no one he can beat that.

1359
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: Y'all will finally admit, okay, man, it's nobody loved.

1360
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: Like if Mayweather goes out and loses to some younger, bigger,

1361
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: faster guy, then.

1362
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: It's well he should have retired.

1363
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 2: Why did you keep fighting? Dude? You were forty three,

1364
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: You had all this money in the bank. You had

1365
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: no reason to keep the fuck so like, boxers cannot

1366
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: win in this situation. But what we have is Mike

1367
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: Tyson has profile and has this ability to make people

1368
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: think it's still nineteen eighty eight, you know, and they'll

1369
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: get people. They'll do some pay per view sell now.

1370
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: Whether or not those turn into like hardcore Triller users,

1371
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: probably not. If they'll do some paper view sells just

1372
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: on the strength of Mike Tyson's thing, and we'll all

1373
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: forget that like his last competitor fight he wants to

1374
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: do Nam Kevin McBride, who no one heard it before,

1375
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah heard.

1376
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 3: Of since yep, that's that's the thing that they say.

1377
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 3: Uh well, I think Roy Jones Jr.

1378
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: Said it best.

1379
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: Y'all must have forgot because literally we have decades of

1380
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 3: why this fight is.

1381
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 4: Not gonna be one to pay any money to see. Yo,

1382
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,959
Speaker 4: people are gonna.

1383
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: Do it now. In two thousand, I would have been

1384
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 2: really entertained, of course, watching like eight pack abs Roy Jones,

1385
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: super fast, untouchable Roy Jones beat up on Mike Tyson,

1386
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: because that's exactly what I.

1387
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 4: Was gonna say.

1388
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: Mike would have still been way past his fine, but yeah, yeah, Roy,

1389
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: Roy would have been a beast.

1390
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: Yes, but like twenty years later because Roy can barely

1391
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: train as bad and easy can't run like Roy when

1392
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: he fights, they always use these old uh these old

1393
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: photos for his poster, so they use like thirty year

1394
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: old Roy with the apps instead of like current roy

1395
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: with like the paunch, right.

1396
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: But I also feel like I also feel like once

1397
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 3: you make it into announcing the fight, like you do

1398
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 3: the analysis of the fighters, you don't get to fight anymore,

1399
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1400
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 4: Like that's that's like an office chair back like me.

1401
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 3: Like in football, that's like if Tony Romo goes, you know,

1402
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: I am going to be quarterback again? No no, no,

1403
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: no no you yeah, like you should get to do that.

1404
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 3: You like, no, you you did the thing you now

1405
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: talk about how did you know what I mean? Don't

1406
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: you don't go back to do the thing, dude, that's insane.

1407
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and but the reality is like boxers come

1408
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: back usually just because they need the money, not because

1409
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: they would want more again mainwhether it was a special

1410
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: case and they say to you, hey, look, here's a

1411
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: hundred here's one hundred million dollars guarantee to fight this mmag.

1412
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: Of course you're gonna take that money. That's why for

1413
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: that fight he came through the ring in the te

1414
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: max because you can use robbing everyone. But like for

1415
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: the most part, it's because you need money now because

1416
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: you want more. So, like Tyson Jones, you could probably

1417
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: use the payday, but again for as much of a

1418
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: failed state as Venezuela is. And although the United States,

1419
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: like every day looks more and more like the Venezuela

1420
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: than everyone I know from Venezuela. Here lest right. But

1421
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: the one thing they do right in Venezuela is that

1422
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: you are not allowed to box past age four. Once

1423
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: you turn forty, you turn in your license. That's it,

1424
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: You're done, because the science says once you get past forty,

1425
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: you're in a lot more danger when you get hit

1426
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: in the head.

1427
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: I bet that leads.

1428
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: I bet that leads to a lot less duck and

1429
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: fights too, because then you got it. It's like, well

1430
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna be ducking all the fights at forty. So

1431
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: if you got a motherfucker on your list, you got

1432
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: somebody on your list you want to get, you want

1433
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: to get, right, well, you.

1434
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: Might want to do it now it's possible exactly.

1435
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: Oh so what like what is mary life and all

1436
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 3: this stuff being like in the pandemic with the child

1437
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 3: you know, and like you know, being in the house

1438
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: or you know you are you are you feeling claustrophobic?

1439
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 4: Are you feeling grateful?

1440
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: Like?

1441
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 4: What are you feeling all the above.

1442
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: So like, I'm happy that you know, we've been able

1443
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: to spend more time with the baby, said the baby.

1444
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: That was kind of spoiled because before the pandemic, the

1445
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: baby got used to people like leaving the house to

1446
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: go to work, so she didn't she didn't trick when

1447
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: you left, because she's like, this is just what people do.

1448
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: People just come and go all day. As long as

1449
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: there's at least one person here to entertain me, I'm cool.

1450
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: But now she's like, I'm used to multiple people in

1451
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: the house to entertain me. So I don't like when

1452
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: any of you lead because you listen, I need you

1453
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: to put it on the wiggles. I need to show

1454
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: me how they dance. Listen, I need you to chase her.

1455
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: Anything is like a chase, like you run around like

1456
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: a little loop.

1457
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,919
Speaker 3: Like that makes sense though, going up in that household,

1458
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: I feel like that's just part of the training.

1459
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So yeah, it is different. Like I said,

1460
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: I find I have like less time during the pandemic

1461
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 2: than before, only because like when no one has a schedule,

1462
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: all this time that you think is time is actually

1463
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: no time, just because there's no schedule. There's no way

1464
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: to mark time, right, every day is the same. It's

1465
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: like I'll leave back for the weekend. Well, because when

1466
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: the weekend comes, I'll put it off too, because I

1467
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: can do it Monday. I'm gonna put it off on Monday,

1468
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: because why not. When it's days of the week anymore.

1469
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 4: They all really start to blend together, like work.

1470
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes I wake up, I don't remember what day

1471
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 5: of the week it is.

1472
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all purgatory at this point.

1473
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought today was Monday.

1474
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 3: But then also, like, you know, with the track running

1475
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: tradition and stuff, are you preparing the child to you know,

1476
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: to hit the blocks, you know, to get out here

1477
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: and following the footsteps? So is that like not a

1478
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: pressure you want to put on the kid.

1479
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: Well, ain't my pressure because ain't the world champ. That's

1480
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: my wife whatever, college pressure.

1481
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: She's like, you need to hurry up and do this.

1482
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: No, Well, here's the thing. My wife, like she did

1483
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: really well financially in track and field, but she also

1484
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: knows how rare it is to do well financially in

1485
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: track and field. So she's not going to push our daughter,

1486
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: like against our daughter's will into sports that like for

1487
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: most people, even really good people, doesn't true, Like if

1488
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: you really really love it, that's one thing, Like listen,

1489
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to play Richard Williams. Yeah for you,

1490
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: so you can just get out on the circuit and

1491
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: run for a few.

1492
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 3: And also like that environment is a little bit brutal,

1493
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: right for a kid, like like the people that do.

1494
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: Like I watched the documentary athlete A. It's on Netflix.

1495
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: It's about the the women's gymnastic team and the sexual

1496
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: abuse scandal to happen. And you know, obviously the sexual

1497
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: abuse scandal is a huge part of all this stuff,

1498
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: but before you even get to that, like a big

1499
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: part of documentary was just like you have to set

1500
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 3: up an environment that allows a imbalance of power and

1501
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: promote a kind of an abusive like you know, I

1502
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 3: get to yell at you if you didn't do a

1503
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: good job. I get to like tell you you're you're

1504
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: ugly and you're fat and you.

1505
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 4: Can't and you oh, you put on three pounds. I

1506
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 4: get to do that.

1507
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: I get to take your parents and say they can't

1508
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: they aren't allowed to come to our camp because they

1509
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: may intervene with my coaching. And so it does you

1510
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: know I want there also for your wife, and she's like, well,

1511
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 3: having been through that extreme level of competitiveness, I would

1512
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily want to thrust my child into this

1513
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: unless they unless it was something a child wanted to

1514
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: go through.

1515
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, also, like what you described is not healthy.

1516
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: But a lot of coaches substitute intensity for skill, and

1517
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: they make you think that you have to mistreat people

1518
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: to make them successful just because that's the way. They

1519
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: don't how to do it right. Like, like for our daughter,

1520
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: so let's say she turns out to be a good athlete.

1521
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: You know, chances are because of who her parents are,

1522
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: sture have talent. But the talent is a big leg up,

1523
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: and there's a lot you can avoid a lot of

1524
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: the crap when you have talent, cause talented things you

1525
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: can't teach, you can't buy, right, And so like when

1526
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: I look at the landscape, I see a lot of

1527
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: parents spending a fortune on their kids, trying to get

1528
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: their kids talent. He can't give somebody talent, You can

1529
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: improve people. You see these coaches and say you got

1530
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 2: to improve your kids athletic ability, Send them to me. Listen,

1531
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: the ability you're born with listening. If your kids don't

1532
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 2: have ability, they made a poor choice of parents.

1533
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I used to play ball with Steph

1534
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: Curry where he was in high school.

1535
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: And uh, first year at Davidson, and.

1536
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 3: Like he was good, but he was really short, you know,

1537
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: and then uh he hit like a little grossberd and

1538
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, his.

1539
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 4: Daddy Daryl Curry. Yeah, his daddy Daryl Curry. Like it

1540
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 4: was it was so obvious, like, oh, yeah, you can't.

1541
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: Teach that like that, that's that's I mean, not that

1542
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 3: he didn't practice and all that shit. He's like, but

1543
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: just like there's some top flight athleticism ship happening with

1544
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 3: him that no one can do right.

1545
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: And like the people that are really really really good,

1546
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: like the elites, the professionals, the top professionals, they have

1547
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: a lot of what you can teach and a lot

1548
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 2: of what you can't teach. It's not a matter of

1549
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: either or. And it's like, and this kind of breaks

1550
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: down around along racial lines because like in general, you

1551
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: see a lot of black people with this talent. You

1552
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: see a lot of white people who don't have the

1553
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: same level of talent. And this prioritize hard work and

1554
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 2: dedication and all this stuff cool, and they act as

1555
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 2: if these things are mutually exclusive, and as if the

1556
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: person who has talent necessarily doesn't have the hard work.

1557
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: But once you get past a certain level, you get

1558
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: to the Olympics, you get to the NBA, especially the

1559
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: top of the NBA. Everybody has a lot of books,

1560
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: and so like, ye it with our daughter wherever, Like

1561
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: I tell them what I tell any kid. You try

1562
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of sports when you're young, See which ones

1563
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: you like, see which ones you good at. In some

1564
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: places you haven't match, and then that's where you pursue.

1565
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: But like, like this idea that you got to like

1566
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: grind kids into dust when they're seven and eighty nine

1567
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: years old in garbage maybe for women's Olympic gymnastics, because

1568
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: they want the people to be like really tight so

1569
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: they can fly more and flip more and all this.

1570
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: But like any other sport, yeah, work your skills, Yes,

1571
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: gets stronger, faster, blah blah blah.

1572
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: But like, and it's just weird though, because like, and

1573
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 3: what does it matter if, like the US isn't good

1574
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: in gymnastics.

1575
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean anything because nobody cares about gym gymnastics

1576
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 6: is like you know when you say, hey, pay the

1577
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 6: nc double A like pay the football players pay the

1578
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 6: pay the basketball players.

1579
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: And then someone raise their hands. But what about fencing?

1580
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: He paid the players, right to pay for fencing, But

1581
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 2: you don't watch fencing, right people watch fencing. If I

1582
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: put the n C Double A Fencing Final four on

1583
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: ESPN right now, you get twelve viewers because if it's

1584
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: six fencers, each of them got two parents, and that's

1585
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: who you'd be watching.

1586
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 4: That's it, and I don't I just want to. I

1587
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 4: just want to clarify.

1588
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying gymnastics is whack or it's not skillful.

1589
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's not worth letting people be abusive for us,

1590
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: like I want us to have us si oon vowels.

1591
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: I believe we'd have some own vowels. Whether or not

1592
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 3: you cover up a sex is what I'm saying.

1593
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 4: So like that's the fart. I want to clarify, caring

1594
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 4: what we're gonna say.

1595
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: No.

1596
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 5: And the thing is, when Morgan was talking about having

1597
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 5: children and parents investing in now trying to be funny,

1598
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 5: a lot of parents it's hard for some parents to

1599
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 5: a lot of parents live vicariously through their child through

1600
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 5: the sport that they desired to play. So instead of

1601
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: giving a child the choice, a lot of parents push

1602
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 5: their children into.

1603
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 4: Some shit that they want to do.

1604
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 5: So this is why they spend pointless amount of money.

1605
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 5: And somebody that's actually not an athlete. They would rather

1606
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 5: be playing chess or or debate team. They'd rather be

1607
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 5: literally doing something else than.

1608
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: This, right, And so what you see all the time,

1609
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: like the rich parent who spends a bunch of money

1610
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: on their kid early and the kid develops early. So

1611
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: like ten twelve years old, you know, Becky and Chad's

1612
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: parents are lawyers, have a bunch of money. They're the

1613
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 2: best in the area because they've been trained from the

1614
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: time they were six. But they get to middle school,

1615
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: get to high school, and what happens is the people

1616
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: with talent start showing up. And they might not never

1617
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: have had they might not ever had a private lesson,

1618
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: but you know what they got. They got born at

1619
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: the deep end of the Jean school us out and

1620
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: that and all of a sudden, all the money mom

1621
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: and dad spent on your speed coach, strength, coach, shot

1622
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 2: coach don't matter, don't matter. But at the same time.

1623
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: You know who the parents are gonna blame when you

1624
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: realize that you peaked the twelve. They're gonna blame you, right,

1625
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: They're gonna blame the kid. They're gonna say, you stopped

1626
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: working for you don't want to know. Yeah, you let

1627
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: Trayvon take that far man. Traymon got talent.

1628
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean there's nothing I can do that,

1629
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 5: Like he naturally knows how to play defense. That doesn't

1630
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 5: come naturally to me, Like you said, some things where

1631
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 5: it's just something natural around you. And the thing is

1632
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 5: a lot of those parents that do that, you have

1633
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 5: children that are like you, constantly play Like they say

1634
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 5: you need to play multiple sports because they're saying children

1635
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 5: that constantly play the same sports end up getting like

1636
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 5: seventeen eighteen and have needs of a forty five year

1637
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 5: old or a fifty year old because it's just that

1638
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 5: constant You're constantly moving the same tendon over and over

1639
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 5: and over again. And now they don't take time off

1640
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 5: because it's literally all year round. If it's a summer break,

1641
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 5: is at au. If it's a spring.

1642
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 4: Break, you in the summer camp.

1643
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: If it's this, you do that.

1644
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 5: So it's like when do you actually allow your child

1645
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 5: to be a child. But that goes back to the

1646
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 5: obsession that people have with sports.

1647
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: Yes, but this is one of the things like again,

1648
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: if our dart size to take sports seriously because she

1649
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: has two parents that have talent, the two parents that

1650
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: also know bigger picture, we can avoid it, right, and

1651
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: we can avoid that temptation. So if it's soccer and

1652
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: she's six years old and some soccer coach says, hey,

1653
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: she has spend twelve bunch of year playing soccer, even

1654
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: what you don't right, if you can have seasons right,

1655
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: and you know what you're gonna you know what you're

1656
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: gonna do about it? Nothing? You know why because our

1657
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: daughter is the best nactual athlete here and you want

1658
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: her right because the other thing she can do is

1659
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: leave and go to enough club. You're gonna give us

1660
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: what we wanted. You're not. And there it goes.

1661
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like what's next on the horizon for

1662
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,520
Speaker 3: you too? Because I know you said something about a podcast.

1663
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 4: You know, I know you got the book.

1664
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 3: How are you finding like stuff to write about now

1665
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 3: for like CBC and stuff like that.

1666
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: So sports journalism whise like for what I do, It's

1667
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: not that, like you write about where's sports meets the politics,

1668
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: where sports meets the pandemic stuff like that, or we're

1669
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: sports meets marketing with Mike Tyson and uncle Roy Jones.

1670
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, you don't go to as many events

1671
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: as you used to. Like, I had a lot of

1672
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: fun over the winter. I got to cover a couple

1673
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: of fights for The New York Times. I actually got

1674
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: to go out to Las Vegas for the big fight

1675
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: Fight Week all that I got booed by Connor McGregor's fans.

1676
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: So basically, like the topic isn't funny. But so Connor

1677
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: McGregor has a couple of open sexual assault cases against

1678
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: him back in Ireland, but no one knows like what

1679
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: the status of them is. It's also a weird quirk

1680
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: of the way their justice system works, like they will

1681
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: announce an investigation before like they arrest you in a range,

1682
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,480
Speaker 2: so for like months, people just know you're being investigated,

1683
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: but they haven't, you know, moved to finalize this thing

1684
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: or to discard it. And so the doctor New York

1685
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Times called me the assignment Eritor's like, hey, can you

1686
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 2: go to Las Vegas and cover this fight? Person Like yeah, sure,

1687
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: And then they're like, here's the thing. We need you

1688
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 2: to ask Connor McGregor about these criminal charges. Okay, And

1689
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 2: so I'm going back and forth into the PR. Guy

1690
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: with the UFC is like he's like, yeah, I think

1691
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: we can make it happen. Because then Connor McGregor at

1692
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: some point had done an interview on ESPN and the

1693
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: interviewer asked him. He didn't ask him. He asked him

1694
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 2: kind of obliquely about the charges. He was like, you

1695
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: people have written that you've done some unsafely things. How

1696
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: do you feel about that. He's like, Oh, it's all fake.

1697
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: It's not gonna stop my career. Okay.

1698
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 4: Cool.

1699
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: So at least he's shown that he will talk about

1700
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: so I'm talk about these things.

1701
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 4: So I.

1702
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Lay the cards on the table early with the UFC.

1703
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're gonna talk to him about a bunch

1704
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: of things. But I do have to ask about the

1705
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: central assault case. So tell him and his people just

1706
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: to have their answer ready. Doesn't have to be the

1707
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: whole interview, but I do have to ask a question.

1708
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: And I don't want anyone thinking that I, you know,

1709
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 2: stuck up on them, that I sprung this on the

1710
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: bomb you know, by surprise any of this stuff, but

1711
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: you know right now. So before I leave for Las Vegas,

1712
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: the answer is yeah, make time, and I get there,

1713
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: They're like, no, he don't want to do it. So

1714
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: now I know I got to go to this news

1715
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: conference and ask him this question in front of all

1716
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 2: of these people, and I know how that's going to go.

1717
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: So because the news UFC news conferences are not news

1718
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: conferences like PEP ratings, right, So there's reporters, but there's

1719
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: also fans. And then like the same guy asks questions,

1720
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: asked the first question of the news conference because he's

1721
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: a reporter, but he's also super tight with the UFC

1722
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: this kind of thing. And so I get there and

1723
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:32,919
Speaker 2: it's like a wedding right where like one one fighter's

1724
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: friends there on one side, the other fighter's friends on

1725
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: the other side, right by the uh the floor where

1726
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: the where the reporters are. So I sit in this

1727
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: chair and I see all Connor mac Beggar's entourage, like

1728
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: his training partners and stuff. They come stand behind me.

1729
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I'm not going to ask this question.

1730
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: These dudes stand in this close to me. So I'm

1731
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: too excited and so they asked him questions and then

1732
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: so I jump up and this thing's being extreme live

1733
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN and stuff. The other thing was I've been sick.

1734
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 2: This is like my first day that I could actually function.

1735
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: I had to get on a plane and go do

1736
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: this thing. I'm like, man, just don't really pass out

1737
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: on TV. Last question, and so I'm like, uh, Connor,

1738
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: one more question about your legal situation. Boo, all the

1739
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: fans boo boo. Shut up, and you know the Irish fans,

1740
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: sit down, sit down, Oh my god. And I'm like, uh,

1741
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: McGregor was smart because the guy he was fighting jumped

1742
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: up and tried to tell me to be quiet, which

1743
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: I understand he doesn't want. This is the most money

1744
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: he's ever gonna make. Don't come screw this up with

1745
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: your dumb questions. So I was like, hey, uh, can

1746
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: you update us on the status? And then the president

1747
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: of the UFC jumps up. He's like, hey, we already

1748
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: answered that question on ESPN, which they didn't. But I'm like,

1749
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm not. I can't argue i'm not. And so I

1750
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: was like, well, was there any point where you guys

1751
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 2: were concerned that that situation would imperil this fight and

1752
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: Dana White's like, no, boo boo, sit up, and like

1753
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the conference went on. Uh and the

1754
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: thing was too I took my Twitter on my Instagram

1755
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: private beforehand because I knew it, and I had like

1756
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 2: Irish guys messaging me on LinkedIn saying I'm gonna call

1757
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: your boss and get you fired.

1758
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 4: What your boss asked you to do?

1759
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 5: This?

1760
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 4: What you just went rogue Jesus?

1761
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: And then uh, like I'm as like, man, I'm gonna

1762
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: leave her as late as possible. Nooy for all the fancily.

1763
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: But as I'm standing there, I hear like these fans

1764
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: shouting from my project. Hey, mister sexual allegation, turn around.

1765
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 3: Wow, it's not even like it's but that's the thing.

1766
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: It's not even like you asked a loaded question. You know,

1767
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: you didn't go uh so connor you still raping women

1768
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: or like what's going on with that? Like literally just

1769
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 3: is like it's as soft as softballs you can get

1770
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: with a question like that, and it is relevant you're

1771
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: accused of that, Like what the boss you could he

1772
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 3: could have kinded out the park like ye, yes, he

1773
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 3: could have been Like everyone calmed down, Everyone calmed down

1774
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: is a valid question. I take these allegations very seriously.

1775
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, and instead sports culture is ripe culture.

1776
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 5: Dude.

1777
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 4: It's the same shit. It's all the same ship.

1778
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: But to answer your original question, yeah, sorry, yeah that

1779
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: was pre pandemic, and so post pandemic, Yeah, you don't

1780
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: get those opportunities anymore to go out and cover stuff.

1781
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 2: But for what I do, because a lot of what

1782
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 2: I do has to do with writing about and talking

1783
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: about the stuff around what happens on the field, I say,

1784
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: plenty of stuff to cover. So by the time we

1785
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: get to this podcast, uh probably later this year, maybe

1786
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: early next year. You know, it's the kind of stuff

1787
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about. So it it helps if events

1788
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: are actually going on, but you know, if they're on

1789
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: a titan schedule like we are now, we can still work.

1790
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 4: Well.

1791
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it, man, I know I've been

1792
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 3: listening to you since all balls don't bounce.

1793
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 4: Shout man Es, Yeah, man, exactly, so yeah, man.

1794
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 3: Shout to Dwayne, shout out to Wall Street. You know,

1795
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 3: so it's absolutely man. I can't wait to see what

1796
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: you got to store next, because I feel like, you know, uh,

1797
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm always watching you on the periphery, even if even

1798
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: though we haven't had you on the show in a while,

1799
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: and it definitely won't be six years before we have

1800
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: you on the show again.

1801
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 4: I promise you that. Brother.

1802
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Smith, we both do.

1803
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 4: Man, you know what I'm saying.

1804
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 3: But you know what, it's it's either that or DOS

1805
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 3: so I'd rather just keep getting old. I saw the

1806
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 3: other day on your Facebook you was out there grilling,

1807
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's that he's turned into the

1808
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 3: old black man that we that I always envisioned him being.

1809
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 2: So tell us and you know what, you don't up doing.

1810
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: That day too, was like yelling at the little nieces

1811
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 2: and nephews were going into.

1812
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 4: Exactly, it's not slamming my screen door, Yes, but you were.

1813
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: I really felt grown in that moment.

1814
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 4: Yes I'm not paying outside. You wear you.

1815
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: Know, all the way in, you're all the way out.

1816
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: You gotta make a choice.

1817
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 4: Were you wearing some overtoe sandals, some leather overtoe with

1818
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 4: some sock.

1819
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: I haven't had leather open toe sandals in a minute. Yeah,

1820
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: I haven't had a throng sandals somewhere there.

1821
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 3: You go, Well, that's next. Once you get to the

1822
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 3: leather overtow. That's what you need to give for your birthday. Okay,

1823
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: next Father's Day leather overtoe sandals.

1824
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 4: And then you hit the grill.

1825
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, make sure y'all tell them where all

1826
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 3: to find you, Morgan.

1827
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: The best way of finding is on Twitter at Morgan

1828
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 2: pee Campbell Instagram at Morgan p Campbell. Those are probably

1829
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 2: the best two places because I always keep people updated

1830
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 2: there or anything I'm working on I post there. Yeah,

1831
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: and Sunday nights I tweet about ninety eight Yeah.

1832
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: And if you're a you know, Irish Connor McGregor fan,

1833
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 3: don't worry about finding them, Okay, just you just mind you.

1834
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 2: Technically, I still don't even have a job. Listen, I

1835
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: was freelancers. You can't fire me because I've already employed.

1836
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: They're gonna find you you tweeting about ninety dayson and

1837
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 3: try to ruin your night, So just just leave them alone, okay, guys, uh,

1838
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 3: once again, thank you for being here.

1839
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 4: This is a final oh no man.

1840
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's always a pleasure man. And this

1841
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: is the last show the week to our feedback show Saturday.

1842
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: So thanks to all the fans for listening. Been a

1843
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 4: busy week. Thanks to Morgan for coming through and until

1844
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 4: next time, I love you.

1845
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I love you too too,