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Speaker 1: of the best, most intense NBA games I have seen

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Speaker 1: in years the crowd first of all, the Knicks shot making.

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Speaker 1: I cannot remember a game when I everybody kat in

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Speaker 1: the first half. Brunson, McHale, bridges og listen, this is

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Speaker 1: a cliche, but you always hear that team wanted it more,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always like, he'll give me a break. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry that crowd fed that team. I didn't think the

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Speaker 1: Knicks offensively Jason had that half that second half in them.

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Speaker 1: That was an incredible display of shot making to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Wife. My wife was kind of just piddling around walking

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Speaker 2: through the room and she goes that Jalen Brunston, he

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Speaker 2: really has been putting the Celtics away in this series,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, he's been doing this to everybody

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Speaker 2: this entire playoff run. It's like you get into a

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Speaker 2: game with him where it's close late and he just

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Speaker 2: He's one of the most gifted shot makers I've ever watched. Colin.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like a it's almost like an Alpha like

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Speaker 2: number one version of what Jamal Murray does, where it's

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Speaker 2: just a steady diet of like right shoulder fades, left

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Speaker 2: shoulder fades, stepping back to the left, stepping back to

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Speaker 2: off of movement in a high ball screen. He can

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Speaker 2: just hit so many different types of jump shots from

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Speaker 2: so many different spots on the floor that it gives

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Speaker 2: him like a lot of you know, counter moves so

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Speaker 2: that he can always get a shot off. And then

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Speaker 2: he's just worked so well towards polishing up his shot

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Speaker 2: making in those situations. It's just remarkable. And I thought

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Speaker 2: also Tom Thibodeau giving Brunson that quick rest. Kind of

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Speaker 2: an interesting subplot in this game was Jalen Brown being

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Speaker 2: in some foul trouble and not starting the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: And what was weird about that is typically that's Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brown's unit, but because Tatum had to lead that early

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter unit, Tatum just kept hunting witches and so

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Speaker 2: it was a lot of one on one from Tatum

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Speaker 2: and Tatum was hitting shots, but no other Celtic was

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Speaker 2: in any rhythm. And what was really a smart move

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Speaker 2: from TIBs. I was joking with a couple of my

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Speaker 2: Lakers buddies. I was like, is Tom Thibau about to

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Speaker 2: whole twenty four minutes, but no. He brings in Duce

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Speaker 2: McBride in the early fourth quarter, and so then they

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Speaker 2: and the ball's moving around, and OG's hitting shots, and

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Speaker 2: Cats getting a bucket, Mitchell Robinson's getting dunk, and the

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Speaker 2: Knicks had a bunch of guys in rhythm in that

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and so even when Tatum was hitting shots,

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Speaker 2: it kind of felt like it was over because the

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Speaker 2: Knicks just had so many more things going. And I

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Speaker 2: mean even at the time of the Tatum injury. They

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Speaker 2: were up by nine at that point. But I'd be

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Speaker 2: remiss if I didn't say, Colin, I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: that was an unbelievable game, and that Tatum injury is

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Speaker 2: just a huge buzz kill, just a huge buzz kill

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Speaker 1: That Well, yeah, we'll circle back to the Tatum injury,

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Speaker 1: So Brunson's got a little Steve Nash, you know Steve

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Speaker 1: Nash Canada, Santa Clara, goes to the Mavericks, good player,

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Speaker 1: the most valuable player. Brunson similarly, plays in Dallas, has

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Speaker 1: like Nash, the keys to the offense. And I always

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Speaker 1: like Brunson, like Nash, I never saw this. I never

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Speaker 1: He's as good of a late game shot maker as

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Speaker 1: he would never touch it with there his right hand,

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Speaker 1: and he do that left and or off the glass

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Speaker 1: like three times a game, and you're like, Okay, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. You're six to one, how are

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Speaker 1: you throwing that over trees? And I'm not saying their

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Speaker 1: games are similar, but it just goes to show Jason,

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Speaker 1: when you empower a player who's got a little chip,

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Speaker 1: He gets the right coach. It's a magical thing.

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Speaker 2: He's the first guard that I can think of in

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Speaker 2: well over a decade, because that's how long STEP's been

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Speaker 2: doing it. He's the first guard to legitimately make it

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Speaker 2: a debate who's the best small guard in the league

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Speaker 2: Like it used to be Steph forever and it wasn't close.

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Speaker 2: Like every time someone would bring up Dame, You're like,

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Speaker 2: nowhere near the defender, nowhere near the off ball player.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson and this surgical walking teams down over and

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Speaker 2: over and over again in the fourth quarter thing. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 2: He's turning losses into wins. It's amazing stuff that he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's doing it in this series against elite on ball defenders,

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Speaker 2: over and over again, shedding Derek White with nasty post

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Speaker 2: the other, hunting the Celtics bigs in space. He is

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Speaker 2: producing offensively at the level of the greatest players in

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Speaker 2: the league, and it's no longer a conversation to me

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Speaker 2: as to whether or not Jalen Brunson could be the

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Speaker 2: best player on a championship team. He absolutely can be,

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Speaker 2: and Colinques have to bring this up because I think

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Speaker 2: this is important in the context of the storyline heading

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Speaker 2: into the series. One of the themes coming into the

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Speaker 2: series is Boston killed the Knicks in the regular season

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Speaker 2: by hunting Brunson and by hunting Kat, and Cat has

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Speaker 2: been a nightmare defensively in the series, although he did

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Speaker 2: do a couple of better possessions against Tatum down the

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Speaker 2: stretch of this game. But Jalen Brunson has been very

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Speaker 2: good defensively in this series and repeatedly in crunch time

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Speaker 2: in the wins they had in Boston. He got stops

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Speaker 2: on Tatum on an Island. He got stops on Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brown in an Island. He survived post up mismatches against

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Speaker 2: Al Horford, like he's playing two way basketball too, Like

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Speaker 2: this is a this is one of our better competitors

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Speaker 2: in the league who is demonstrating for the world that

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Speaker 2: he belongs in the conversation with the best players in

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Speaker 2: the league. Like he legitimately has a case to be

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Speaker 2: the best small guard in the league right now. And

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Speaker 2: it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I said this, I felt like Ewing was

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Speaker 1: Mellow was a little overstated because I thought he was

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Speaker 1: a profound offensive talent, but not necessarily a guy, not

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Speaker 1: a great leader. And I said this a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, I said, I would take you know, Walt

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Speaker 1: Fraser Ewing, Bernard King Brunson feels like he's in that class.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for as bad as the football teams are,

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Speaker 1: he's like the best cou're back in New York. Like

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Speaker 1: he is what New York teams should be. New York

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Speaker 1: teams should be tough, they should be resilient, they should

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Speaker 1: be fighters. They shouldn't be you know, they shouldn't be slick.

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Speaker 1: That's for LA teams or Miami teams. It's like New

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Speaker 1: York teams. New York basketball from Syracuse The Pearl, Washington's

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Speaker 1: you know, like Syracuse the zone, the matchup zone defense,

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Speaker 1: the great Nick teams with pat Riley. Walt Fraser was

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Speaker 1: a great defensive guard. Willis Reid. Like the culture of

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Speaker 1: basketball in New York is tough and physical, and I

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Speaker 1: just watched them tonight and I thought to myself, listen,

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Speaker 1: is going to allow for more physical play. I do

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Speaker 1: think there is a cat issue defensively on this team.

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Speaker 1: That's why Mitchell Robinson is in that game in the

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Speaker 1: second half, Like we'll take cat scoring early. We'll go

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Speaker 1: I do think they have to kind of clean up

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Speaker 1: the pick and roll D defense with Kat at some

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Speaker 1: point in personnel. But the league is allowing this kind

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Speaker 1: of physical play and their ball movement their defense. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I look at it and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think i'd screw it up. The chemistry is just remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Like I think Kat is a really nice offensive piece,

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Speaker 1: but Gotti, the well coach teams are going to attack

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Speaker 1: him if if you had to. And I know it's

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Speaker 1: not the night, But I came out of that thinking

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Speaker 1: they don't need KD. They don't need another shot maker.

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Speaker 1: That was my take.

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Speaker 2: Do they I don't yet the I think a more

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Speaker 2: be a really interesting piece. Like you you mentioned the

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Speaker 2: pick and roll defense. Let's say, let's say the results hold,

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Speaker 2: which I believe they will if Tatum's injured. I think

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Speaker 2: the Knicks are going to win the series, and I

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Speaker 2: believe the Pacers will close out the Calves, although that's

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Speaker 2: not necessarily over. The Pacers are a very very difficult

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Speaker 2: team to guard, and they specifically capitalize on dudes who

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Speaker 2: are slow footed in space. That's that is how they

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Speaker 2: take advantage of you. And the Calves are fast and

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Speaker 2: they're cutting them to pieces. They hung eight, they hung

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Speaker 2: eighty points on them yesterday in the first half. The

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Speaker 2: Calves are the Pacers are playing some special basketball. So

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Speaker 2: a lot of it depends on how next round goes.

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Speaker 2: If they hold up well and they beat the Pacers,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a much more complicated conversation about the

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Speaker 2: type of move they need to make. But if they

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Speaker 2: get beat by, if they just get flat out beat

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Speaker 2: by the Pacers. I think what you have to look

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Speaker 2: at is Kale Bridges kind of makes sense as a

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Speaker 2: secondary player next to Jalen Brunson. He can run that

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Speaker 2: action when he's off the floor. Og Ananobi to me,

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Speaker 2: is like the quintessential weak side scoring forward, Like he

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Speaker 2: just scores off the skip passes, the ball gets skipped

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Speaker 2: to him and he shoots at three or he drives

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Speaker 2: the clothes out. Jalen Brunson is proving that he can

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Speaker 2: be that on ball guard that can lead a championship team.

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Speaker 2: Get a kick ass center, get somebody, Get somebody that

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Speaker 2: that is really impressive. Like, I know, the Cavs are

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Speaker 2: that team won sixty four games, and let's just this

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Speaker 2: is the best way I could describe it, Colin. The

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Speaker 2: Calvs beat the Pacers in the second half seventy to

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Speaker 2: forty nine yesterday and still lost by twenty. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: how bad the Pacers beat them yesterday. So like this

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Speaker 2: Pacers team is, I'm I'm nervous about Karl Anthony Towns

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Speaker 2: guarding in that matchup. That said, as we've seen with

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Speaker 2: it's like that Pacers matchup is just such an interesting

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Speaker 2: one with Kat because it's just a disaster for him

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Speaker 2: really high level. So I would like I would look

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Speaker 2: Carlisle has them playing super hard for forty eight minutes

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Speaker 2: still wouldn't have been surprised if Boston came back and

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Speaker 2: certainly going to advance, and if they advance, they certainly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really funny. Tonight was the first night

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Speaker 1: But even for a billionaire, seventy five million dollars for

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Speaker 1: on it. But here's what's funny, Jason timpf. Essentially, instead

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not mister the NBA is rigged. I'm

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Speaker 2: not that guy. But if you were that guy, this

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Speaker 2: would be the day to make the case. Because, in

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Speaker 2: addition to the Dallas piece, which we'll get to in

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Speaker 2: just a second, I think that the league has now

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Speaker 2: just tied up San Antonio for the easiest Yannis trade

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Speaker 2: that in a second. But the the Dallas front is

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Speaker 2: super fascinating because Cooper Flag in many ways is everything

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Speaker 2: that Luca isn't in the sense that he's got this

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Speaker 2: but what he doesn't have is like just whatever you

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Speaker 2: brings that top side offensively that very few players in

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Speaker 2: NBA history have reached by his age, and Cooper Flag

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Speaker 2: has a little bit of that sort of weakness in

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Speaker 2: the sense that he doesn't have a singular point of

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Speaker 2: his game that you can point to where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he is like an A plus plus plus athlete, or

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00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: he is an A plus plus plus shooter or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. But he's just so versatile down the line

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Speaker 2: that he brings an element that Luka Doncic didn't bring.

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Speaker 2: He's such a natural fit next to Anthony Davis, which

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Speaker 2: I really like. There's some big picture questions with Dallas's

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Speaker 2: roster now with PJ Washington, like how does he fit

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Speaker 2: into this mix? I think, on one hand, I'm just

587
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: so thrilled that Cooper didn't go to a team that

588
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: was trying to be bad. I think that that's one

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Speaker 2: of the nice kind of upsides of this is that

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Speaker 2: it prevents that sort of mediocrity being rewarded. And then

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Speaker 2: on the Yanna's front with with San Antonio, what I

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Speaker 2: find super fascinating is there are these three teams that

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Speaker 2: are obviously teed up to be able to go get Yanis,

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Speaker 2: and that's Oklahoma City, San Antonio and Houston. And Janis

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00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: going to Oklahoma City would be no fun, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: no fun. They're just gonna kill everybody like that, That's

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Speaker 2: literally no fun. And then Houston, it's kind of an

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Speaker 2: interesting fit. But Houston is like athletic and can't shoot,

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Speaker 2: so they seem to make the perfect sense for a

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Speaker 2: KD team, you know what I mean? Right, And so

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Speaker 2: like ideally Yanni's going to San Antonio makes the most sense.

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Speaker 2: They have the clear pieces to be able to offer

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Speaker 2: in terms of like they can give Milwaukee both picks

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Speaker 2: and like a really intriguing young prospect like Stefan Castle

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Speaker 2: and a specific pick in this upcoming draft, the number

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Speaker 2: two overall pick where they could hope to get a

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Speaker 2: super high level guard to help in the future. And

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Speaker 2: so with that being the case, like, I think this

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Speaker 2: has broken out just about perfectly for what the league

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Speaker 2: would probably like to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think Also, I don't think i'd mess.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I thought I thought if San Antonio

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Speaker 1: I thought Oklahoma City would be like, okay, right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna move home Groun and seven Picks and lou Dort

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Speaker 1: be a freight train for eight years in San Antonio.

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Speaker 1: So I was saying, if you're Oklahoma City, you were

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Speaker 1: But that was scary. I wouldn't have minded Philadelphia winning,

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Speaker 1: But I also think as a sportscaster, when I look

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Speaker 1: still think. I don't think Kyrie is gonna play next year,

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Speaker 1: not until at least the trading deadline. So it's Dallas

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Speaker 1: has some extra size to play with. But good god,

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Speaker 1: look at this, Jason. The West is already better. Dallas

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Speaker 1: now gets Cooper Flag, san Antonio gets the second best players,

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Speaker 1: the Rutgers kid everybody loves. I mean, I keep looking

640
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: at this thing. I was talking to Rachel Nichols today.

641
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: The West is just going to get better, and yannest

642
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's not trading him in the East, They're trading him West.

643
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's that's what I said about Milwaukee

644
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: today and the honest trait take out Boston if you

645
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: go and get a chet Home Grin and multiple picks,

646
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: or go to Houston and get Sheng Goon Jalen Green

647
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: six Picks and Jabari Smith. I'm throwing names out. Outside

648
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: of Boston, You're not that far away from being the

649
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: number two team in the East. In the West, you

650
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: could not give up a Yanis. It would be decimating Portland.

651
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: You know, they move off Dame. They have all this talent.

652
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: It's they're irrelevant. If you had to guess Janis, who's

653
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: the best fit. And I agree with you, Houston needs

654
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: a shooter. Yannis probably isn't the perfect fit.

655
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that would be really nice with Yannis

656
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: as a frontline partner with Victor wembin Yama is their

657
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: games compliment each other on a bunch of specific levels. So,

658
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: for instance, Victor Wembinyama is blossoming as this like three

659
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: point centric center and he very clearly likes to take

660
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: that shot. It's something he hunts when he's out there.

661
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: So there's kind of like a spacing dynamic to where

662
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: you don't want to have two centers basically playing with

663
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: each other that both want to work right by the basket,

664
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: and so there's kind of a natural fit there. But

665
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: the second piece of it is Wemby has some vulnerability

666
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: to size and strength and Yannis does not, and so

667
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: anchoring anchoring Wemby with a six' eleven forward that is

668
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: one of the most physically dominant forwards of his. Era

669
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: is kind of a perfig natural fit. There and, yeah

670
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: they already have with the Darn fox piece the ball handling,

671
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: piece so you can actually see this like this like

672
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: rim protection. Center giannis has always played better next to

673
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: a center when they when The bucks used to play

674
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: him at, center they used to have issues because he's

675
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: not as good at defending pick and roll as he

676
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: is is like kind of a traditional help side, defender

677
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: and So wemby can defend pick and, Roll giannis can

678
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: be their low man help side. Defender Daron fox is

679
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: your point of attack. Guard it just has such a

680
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: natural fit. There and one of the things that was

681
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: going to get tricky with San antonio and this is

682
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: this is where that second pick is super. Interesting you

683
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: get to the question where you're, like, man are we

684
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: going to have to give Up Stefan castle And Devin

685
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: vessel to make this? Happen this the number two pick

686
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: is probably going to Be Dylan, harper and he's very

687
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: interesting guard out Of rutgers that has size and has

688
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: some athleticism and can and really get to the. Basket

689
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Dylan harper gives you another piece to include in a

690
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: deal like, that to maybe keep a, castle or to

691
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: maybe keep A Devin. Vasselle Devin vesselle is kind of

692
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: an off ball shooter, archetype so he might be the

693
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: perfect guy to. Keep he's also older and a little

694
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: bit closer to being ready to contribute in a serious.

695
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: Context and so it kind of just feels like the

696
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: stars are aligning in that. Way If I'm, HOUSTON i

697
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: want to bargain serious For. Giannis BUT kd is just

698
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: such a nice backup plan for them to go to

699
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: that just fits so nicely. There And i'm so glad

700
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: you mentioned The Austin Reeves dallas, piece because that deal

701
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: will never happened after what. Happened if The, dallas if

702
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: the mass do another deal with The, lakers their fans might.

703
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: Revolt but there's such like an obvious Like Gafford Austin,

704
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: reeves there maybe such something LIKE i think The lakers

705
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: would need to get more BECAUSE i Think austin's a

706
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: better player Than. Gafford but there is like there's a

707
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: version of that deal they could put together where they

708
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: where they get some athleticism, back and it makes some,

709
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: sense and it's just a question of whether or not

710
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: that type of partnership would ever work. Out the other

711
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: group THAT i look, at IF i was The lakers

712
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: With austin is look At brooklyn and see if they

713
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: can't get like A Nick claxton or something like that

714
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: and that type of.

715
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: Deal, yeah It's, OH i loved it so much. Tonight

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00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: it just cracked me. Up Dallas San antonio seventy six

717
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Speaker 1: ers get the third choice And. CHARLOTTE i will, say

718
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: there's there's one THING i do think that really works

719
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: in the NBA's favor when you see a lot of

720
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: THESE G league guys Like Jalen, green and you kind

721
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: of put your arms up in the air as AN

722
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: nba commissioner and, go, wow a lot of these guys

723
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: who are, flourishing these young guys went to college or they're,

724
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: international which their academy systems better than our current kind

725
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: of g leaksist. Them and it's not that people will

726
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: push back on THE G, league but with nil money

727
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: at the top ten programs now, comparable you, know relative

728
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: to the Ni elmont or to THE G league. MONEY

729
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: i do think the domestic. Product the draft is going

730
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: to become less international at the top and more, domestic

731
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: or at least it won't look like last. YEAR i

732
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: mean this year is a great. Example it's very domestic,

733
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: product and SO i think THAT'S i think that really.

734
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Matters i've said this for. YEARS i understood THE G

735
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: league pre, nil But i've said this About Jalen. Green

736
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: he has no defined offensive. Game even if you spend

737
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: a year in college with a with A Dan hurley

738
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: or A Bill self or A tom is just a

739
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: year of hard coaching college campus fundamentals. MATURING i think

740
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: it really. Matters, also playing In, march playing on, television

741
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: playing in a big ten OR sec, environment whether it's real,

742
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: pressure bad, game the students give you the side eye

743
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: like that's real pressure for eighteen nineteen year. OLD i

744
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Mean Cooper, flag you play At, duke you have fifteen

745
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: games On NATTY, tv and then you Have. March SO

746
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: i do think college basketball has been a bit marginalized

747
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: by the. LEAGUE i got it pre, nil but now

748
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: IF i was a, DAD i would take a little

749
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: less and go with a marketing advantage Of, Kansas, Syracuse.

750
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Yukon would you? NOT i think you're.

751
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Dead on with, This. Colin there is a thing that

752
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: happens in THE G league where they prepare you for

753
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: the pro game in a certain, way in the sense

754
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: that they'll put you in some nbaesque roles where you're

755
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: either running tie ball, screens or you're behaving as the

756
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: role man, screener or you're attacking closeouts on the week,

757
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: side DIFFERENT nba defensive. Concepts all that's, great but you're

758
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: not going to capture the, intensity the, stakes the overall

759
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: just like passion and vibe that you get in college.

760
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Basketball it's the closest thing that you're going to find

761
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: that REPLICATES nba playoff. BASKETBALL i also think the coaching,

762
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: matters like you're just gonna give your kid the best access,

763
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: to you, know real like, intentional detail oriented, coaching because

764
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: at that level it makes such a huge difference when

765
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: you're working with those types of, athletes and LIKE i

766
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: think to your, point having an il incentivizing kids to

767
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: stay in the college game in addition to just being

768
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: great for just basketball, culture because to be, HONEST ncaa

769
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: basketball is such a huge part of WHAT i grew

770
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: up rooting for WHEN i was a. Kid, COLIN i

771
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: barely watched THE. NBA i watched a lot Of, arizona

772
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: The university Of arizona basketball WHEN i was like sixteen,

773
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: seventeen WHEN i was going to play high school. Ball

774
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: those were the kids we. Idolized we idolized the kids

775
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: playing at the u OF. A it's just it's part

776
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: of the. CULTURE i think it just needed, this And

777
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: i'm so glad THE ncaa was willing to just kind

778
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: of adapt into this era because we needed this for

779
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: this sport to. SURVIVE i think it's better for the

780
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: basketball players in our.

781
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Country, yeah And i've said, THIS i understand THE nba

782
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: sting with regular season ratings because regular season playoff basketball

783
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: is about veteran teams and recognizable, players so the numbers go,

784
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: up plus the intensity regular, season there's a lot of

785
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: guys you don't. Know there's a lot of bad, teams

786
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: and those are international players you didn't, watch OR G

787
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: league guys you didn't. Watch And i've said. This you,

788
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Know i'm On thompson as OBVIOUSLY G league and a great,

789
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: player but you Watch Jalen green and you're, like, man

790
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: he could have used. College he could have really used.

791
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: College he feels Lost Jonathan. MINGA i, mean we're on what,

792
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: year year, Four i'm still trying to quite figure out

793
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: what he. Is he can't play with the. VETERANS i

794
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: Mean San Antonio Golden state's culture is. Classic every young guy,

795
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Struggles every young guy. Struggles it could Be, wiseman it

796
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: can be Cominga Jordan poole wore out veteran. Players SO

797
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: i AND i love college, basketball AND i was always

798
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: MORE nba than college because for a lot of, REASONS

799
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: i grew up With Bill walton and The blazers and

800
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: The sonics when they won championships in the. Seventies i'm

801
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: showing my, age BUT i will say though Those Christian

802
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Latner duke, teams The fab five, teams the Five Slama,

803
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: jama it is impossible to describe to a twenty year

804
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: old what college basketball was like thirty five years. Ago

805
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: you would literally you could pick Up street And smith

806
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: and you could name the, first, second and third Team

807
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: All americans off the top of your head because it

808
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Was duncan's coming back and. EWING i can remember going

809
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: In Las. Vegas there's a grocery store chain Called, smith's

810
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: and this is like twenty years, ago AND i got

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00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: this BECAUSE i always get a street In smith like

812
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: before the college basketball, season AND i looked on the

813
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: cover they had The All american team and it was

814
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: four High. SCORORERS i was, like, OKAY i Can't i'm,

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Speaker 1: SORRY i can't do. It SO i just, THOUGHT i Just,

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Speaker 1: god this is. Fun how about The Dallas. Mavericks at

817
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: the end of the. Season there's only one team that

818
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: can call THEMSELVES nba, champs only one player that can

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