Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.
Speaker 1: It's a brand new week, and it is Eyes up here,
Speaker 1: and you're listening to this brand new Eyes up there
Speaker 1: and watching it exclusively on our Patreon channel. You were
Speaker 1: watching this if you're listening on Creative Control. But I've
Speaker 1: got a bone to pick with the Creative Control listeners.
Speaker 1: And just a few minutes he didn't know by now
Speaker 1: my name is Chadd and every single week I'm joined
Speaker 1: by the co host there, the Queen. Oh she's wearing
Speaker 1: a Queen T shirt. Now, so we know. We saw
Speaker 1: your queen mask in Disney. Now you have t shirt.
Speaker 1: It's the Queen of Extreme Francine. Yes, today is casual
Speaker 1: Friday here in my household. I'm not feeling that great,
Speaker 1: to be honest. I've had a sinus headache for like
Speaker 1: four days now, and I think the first time I
Speaker 1: talked to you this week was like yesterday. I think, yes, beds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a busy week, my first week home, trying
Speaker 1: to get you know, unpacked and laundry done and the
Speaker 1: kids back to school and everything situated in the house.
Speaker 1: And I said to you yesterday, if I still feel
Speaker 1: a poop I'm not getting dressed. Well, there you go. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a it's a rough week for me, apparently
Speaker 1: it was. I did get a little worried though, you know,
Speaker 1: you did travel a couple of weeks back, you know,
Speaker 1: so here I was just a little dirts, you know,
Speaker 1: I got that a little bit of uh no, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm god, I'm good that in that aspect. It's my sinuses.
Speaker 1: I know, every once in a while they kick in. Oops,
Speaker 1: And now it's been like four days and it's just
Speaker 1: you know, when you get that sinus headache and you
Speaker 1: feel like you're carrying a ton of bricks on your head,
Speaker 1: you just feel like weighted down. That's what I feel like.
Speaker 1: So I felt that way. I saw asleep in my
Speaker 1: uh my chair here the other day, pondering, and I
Speaker 1: was thinking, and I felt that way myself. I was
Speaker 1: feeling very heavy in the head, and I tilted it
Speaker 1: back and drifted off until Yeah, it's uh, it's been
Speaker 1: a doozy, but I'm catching up, you know, I'm catching up.
Speaker 1: And uh, we're good, we are, We're good as gold.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for today's episode. We got a great feature
Speaker 1: interview that was recorded ahead of time, which I also
Speaker 1: I like that as well when I look at the
Speaker 1: production schedule for the day. But we're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: Johnny Candido, Yes, brother of your Triple Threat member. No
Speaker 1: gimmicks needed, Chris Candy the talking about this book, No
Speaker 1: gimmicks needed. Uh, we'll talk about it. We'll get ready
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. But just to prep you for
Speaker 1: the episode. I loved this interview and this was I
Speaker 1: think everybody's really enjoyed this. This was a great one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did too. I saw him. I didn't know about
Speaker 1: the book and I saw him talking about it on
Speaker 1: Twitter and I noticed he was following me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Johnny, So I followed him back, you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as I figured out I wasn't and I
Speaker 1: don't know who DMed first, but we got to talk
Speaker 1: in DMS and he's like, I'll send you a copy
Speaker 1: of the book, and I was like, you want to
Speaker 1: come promote it? Sure do. So got him on and
Speaker 1: very interesting stories yeah, that a lot of people might
Speaker 1: not have ever heard. So everybody knows how dear Chris
Speaker 1: was to me, and this was a fun one for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually I sent him the watch along that we
Speaker 1: did of Candido and Jamie Dundee Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And so he got a sample of what it was,
Speaker 1: you know, we were doing on Patreon, which is my
Speaker 1: bone to pick that I have with the Creative Control listeners.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times we're gonna mention it
Speaker 1: throughout the show, but if you are not over on
Speaker 1: Patreon yet, you are so missing out on so much
Speaker 1: extra great content, like the hysterics that we have with that.
Speaker 1: With withstanding that's already a given. If you like this
Speaker 1: show and I get such good feedback from the people
Speaker 1: listening to it, I'm calling you out. You got to
Speaker 1: come and join us over on Patreon because it's a
Speaker 1: hell of a time. I mean, there's no other way
Speaker 1: to put it, right, I agree. And it's weird because
Speaker 1: I have now I've been on Twitter what three years,
Speaker 1: which is not a long time compared to some of
Speaker 1: the ogs that started twelve how many years ago? I
Speaker 1: don't even know how old Twitter is, but I joined
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, I'm almost up to like, I think,
Speaker 1: thirty four thousand followers right right, And apparently people still
Speaker 1: liked me on there. You know, I get really positive
Speaker 1: tweets people are saying that, you know, they like ECW,
Speaker 1: they like me, blah blah blah. Why aren't they coming
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon to see more of the Queen?
Speaker 1: I don't you know? We welcome everyone. It's a fun time.
Speaker 1: Let me just a cup of coffee. Do you go
Speaker 1: to Starbucks? Have you ever bought a Grande? Well, for
Speaker 1: that thirty minutes of pleasure that you're sipping that grande,
Speaker 1: you can have a month's worth of Patreon action with
Speaker 1: me and the chadst that's right, Rice, And you don't
Speaker 1: have to tip us no, and we won't burn your
Speaker 1: tongue or burn your fingertips. Now, I'll take the tip,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to burn anybody. The tip is fine,
Speaker 1: just take the We don't want to put take that
Speaker 1: in the wrong context with anybody. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: because I don't want anybody to isolate that as a
Speaker 1: sound clip. But yeah, I just just feeling strongly about
Speaker 1: that lately, because you know, I look through the podcasting
Speaker 1: realm and I'm like, gee, do we not talk about
Speaker 1: ECW enough? Check? Well, we do that all the time.
Speaker 1: Do we not talk about Francine's life all the time? Check?
Speaker 1: We do that all the time. We drink, we eat,
Speaker 1: we guess games, we play quizzes, we do all this
Speaker 1: crazy crap. Yes, yes, and you get to know us
Speaker 1: more personal, like more personal aspects of our lives. And
Speaker 1: everybody always wants to know personal things about me. Well,
Speaker 1: come on over to Patreon. I'm an open book. What'd
Speaker 1: you have for breakfast this morning? You know what? I
Speaker 1: don't eat breakfast. I usually just have a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: But on Fridays I try to eat something because we
Speaker 1: tend to record for hours and hours. So I had
Speaker 1: two pieces of rye bread with some peanut butter and
Speaker 1: butter on them. Oh they were delicious, Just to get
Speaker 1: a little salt n in my belly. I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to say you'd have to listen on Patreon
Speaker 1: if you want to find out what I have for breakfast.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm giving you a freebie free but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe if you want to discuss lunch
Speaker 1: and dinner, you come on Patreon. See what I hate?
Speaker 1: It's you know, so granted. Our like I said, our
Speaker 1: production schedule is a little lighter compared to what it
Speaker 1: would normally be a little bit, not a lot, just
Speaker 1: for today though, just for today. But see, like I
Speaker 1: do the same thing with the preparation on a Friday,
Speaker 1: so like I eat very early on Fridays when kids
Speaker 1: are you know, getting up, going out to school all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I had two oranges like fifteen minutes before
Speaker 1: we sat down, and I'm like sitting here already being like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was good enough. I don't think
Speaker 1: the oranges are gonna hold me, not fill you up.
Speaker 1: My friend, we had two. They will give you your
Speaker 1: vitamin C, but they will not fill you. No, Like
Speaker 1: the orange tastes in my mouth. You know that he
Speaker 1: left overs, but I can't say I feel fulfilled by oranges.
Speaker 1: You know what, I probably won't eat lunch because for Twitch,
Speaker 1: which I'm filming after this, I have this baby right
Speaker 1: here are those foreign candies. This is a foreign snack box.
Speaker 1: Snack box, that was it I saw, you see. And
Speaker 1: then I also have this baby that is from El Salvador.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, what's in? But I'm gonna do it live
Speaker 1: on Twitch, so I'll be eating foreign foods and probably
Speaker 1: getting sick and that'll be fun. So that's on Twitch.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you. You know, my buddy Danny who
Speaker 1: we had on about a year ago, and Danny with
Speaker 1: Twitch as you were getting it ramped up casually out
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood a couple of days ago, he goes Man,
Speaker 1: he goes Francis can do some crazy stuff on that Twitch.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to lure people in. You know what. The
Speaker 1: funniest part is I put up when I was in Disney,
Speaker 1: I put up a header something like come join join
Speaker 1: me in Disney World or something, come join me, And
Speaker 1: people are literally writing me saying I would, but I
Speaker 1: just left Florida to go here, and where are you
Speaker 1: at in the parks? I can meet you? And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, no, I meant to join me on Twitch.
Speaker 1: I didn't actually want to spend the day with me
Speaker 1: in the park. Good thing you have a mask on.
Speaker 1: You're just so hilarious. And and the funny part is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Hobbs is is not on camera ever, but
Speaker 1: because he had his mask on, there was two times
Speaker 1: where I had to go to the bathroom and he
Speaker 1: did a Q and I because he was coming, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he took it and Hobbs did the Q and I
Speaker 1: for me. So you got to see him from the
Speaker 1: eyes up eyes up here, eyes up where. I was
Speaker 1: up here, but he was on there. But you know,
Speaker 1: we just asked the Patreon. I just try to keep
Speaker 1: it fresh and exciting and fun. I want to be fun.
Speaker 1: I'm that fun mom that everybody likes. Hey, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: real batrel laughs. You really are. I really well, as
Speaker 1: you say that with the most face that you can
Speaker 1: really uh yeah, okay, yes that's uh yeah. So that
Speaker 1: was my bone to pick. But I appreciate everybody who
Speaker 1: does listen, So don't take it the wrong way. Don't
Speaker 1: leave it that well. I would love more people to
Speaker 1: come over. I love everyone, and I just, oh wait,
Speaker 1: I just got a five star rating on cameo for you.
Speaker 1: But thank you, queen, the best bitch in the business.
Speaker 1: You know who you are. Yeah, I just I did
Speaker 1: a cameo before I came down here and I had
Speaker 1: to heal somebody. Never has the term bitch been used
Speaker 1: in such a positive way than just now in a
Speaker 1: five star review on came Baby Cow, what do you
Speaker 1: do for a living? Well, people call me a bitch
Speaker 1: and it's a term of endearments. Yes, that's that's true,
Speaker 1: and I wear that as a badge of honor. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it well. Speaking of honor now, I asked you
Speaker 1: this the other day, innocuously and a text message, just
Speaker 1: to see where you were at in terms of the news.
Speaker 1: I asked you not about my brand new T ball team,
Speaker 1: the Royals, but I asked you about the Royal family
Speaker 1: and if you were following the drama of the Royal
Speaker 1: family over the last week or so. No, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything that's going on with them. So the Royal family,
Speaker 1: the Queen of England, Queen Elizabeth and her family, the
Speaker 1: Royal families fascinate me and disgust me in a way
Speaker 1: because one, I can't get behind a monarchy, but two,
Speaker 1: the weird stuff that goes on behind the scenes in
Speaker 1: a castle like that, it tantalizes the brain. It fascinates me.
Speaker 1: But Prince Harry, who is the son of Prince Charles
Speaker 1: and Princess Diana, left the Royal family with his wife,
Speaker 1: Megan Markle, who is a former actress, and I kind of,
Speaker 1: depending on who you ask, kind of like home family
Speaker 1: wrecker because I don't know what she does to Prince
Speaker 1: Harry that made him kind of lose his mind with
Speaker 1: his family. But he has like succeeded from the Royal family,
Speaker 1: and they had this tell all interview with Oprah of
Speaker 1: all people that was like skating in terms of expos
Speaker 1: so like revealing attitudes and secrets. Yes, revealing possible racial
Speaker 1: overtones of the Royal family. Oh, because she's half African American. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if it was her mother
Speaker 1: that was African American, I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but she's half Hu And allegedly, according to them, there
Speaker 1: was comments made about, you know, the baby skin color,
Speaker 1: if the baby was quote too dark. Kind of crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: but a tell all interview in twenty twenty one gaining
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was seventeen million people or
Speaker 1: something watching it on a Sunday night. I remember the
Speaker 1: hell they broadcast it. It's kind of crazy. But the
Speaker 1: royals themselves, like I said, I fascinates me in a way,
Speaker 1: but kind of like I don't really care because it's
Speaker 1: not our you know, you have no interest in the
Speaker 1: Royal family. I mean I was interested in the weddings
Speaker 1: because I knew they were going to be these elaborate,
Speaker 1: you know, a spectacle with these beautiful gowns and very regal,
Speaker 1: so I love a good wedding, and I watched both
Speaker 1: that interested me, But stuff that goes on afterwards, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I don't care. Again, it's not I live
Speaker 1: in America. They're not affecting me at all. The one
Speaker 1: thing that I do remember is when they got married,
Speaker 1: I had read something that she wanted to still pursue
Speaker 1: acting and to do that they would have to kind
Speaker 1: of come to the States and leave, and he did it,
Speaker 1: like he pulled out for her, and I remember saying that.
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's he loves her. That's love. Like
Speaker 1: you're giving up everything for your your wife's dream. Like
Speaker 1: in a way, that's very endearing. That's nice, you know.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, it's like that's a legacy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you just say, Okay, I'm gonna leave goodbye.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he feels like because his brother
Speaker 1: is next in line and he's never gonna get it right,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like, Okay, what am I
Speaker 1: waiting for? I'm making all these appearances and there's no payoff.
Speaker 1: It's essentially being like, all right, well, if this catastrophe
Speaker 1: happens and this person and this person are gone, then
Speaker 1: it's my time to shine. The thing about her being
Speaker 1: an actress, I think was kind of like a red
Speaker 1: herring at the time, and to throw you off the scent,
Speaker 1: because the way they kind of portray it is that, no,
Speaker 1: they were basically being told that they were not going
Speaker 1: to be given certain titles, they were not going to
Speaker 1: be given certain luxuries that the royal family would award
Speaker 1: to those who are dependents and those who are in
Speaker 1: the you know, the the bloodline, and again kind of
Speaker 1: having the racial overtones or undertones of the whole entire matter.
Speaker 1: Now the other thing is from the royal side. Well,
Speaker 1: there was murmurs that the wife, whatever her name is
Speaker 1: now I forget Megan wasn't very nice to Princess Kate
Speaker 1: and made Princess Kate cry and that didn't sit well
Speaker 1: when Meghan then says, no, that's the opposite. They treated
Speaker 1: me poorly. So I told you in the textis I said,
Speaker 1: it's like a wrestling storyline. It's got ins and out,
Speaker 1: who's really the babyface, who's the heel, and where's the swerve.
Speaker 1: So they're alleging because of her skin color, she is
Speaker 1: not privy to everything that Kate is getting that the
Speaker 1: children were not going to be recognized as their skin color, right,
Speaker 1: and that they weren't going to get security and they
Speaker 1: weren't going to get It's a huge bold statement. And
Speaker 1: then Prince Prince William had to come out and say
Speaker 1: that obviously not true, you know between the brothers now,
Speaker 1: oh that's sad, sad. Yeah, and Prince Harry, not naming names,
Speaker 1: claimed that, and there's not naming who said it. An
Speaker 1: unnamed royal person said to Prince Harry in a closed
Speaker 1: door meeting of just the family members, no wife, just
Speaker 1: the immediate blood family that the comment about the skin
Speaker 1: color of the baby, and it's like man into a well,
Speaker 1: it's up for your debate. Because he's holding this. He
Speaker 1: was making like old faces at the camera now like
Speaker 1: while he was doing his dad, he's putting his ears
Speaker 1: up like his dad to signify his head. But yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't reveal who it was. But just like I said,
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of twists and turns and in
Speaker 1: one way, again, I don't really care. Liz oddly was
Speaker 1: really into it, and that's so out of character for
Speaker 1: her because she never really cared about the royals. So
Speaker 1: it's just like I said, weird twist and turns wrestling
Speaker 1: esque storyline in a royal family. Do you know that
Speaker 1: there is a rumor that Prince Charles is not even
Speaker 1: Harry's father. I have heard that. Yes, it was this
Speaker 1: other guy who Hulbs pulled the picture up and they
Speaker 1: look exactly alike. He's got the red hair. Diana was
Speaker 1: supposed to have had an affair with or something because
Speaker 1: Charles was having his affair. And it's too bizarre. I
Speaker 1: can't even I don't even know what's going on. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing like about the Royals, Like, okay, so
Speaker 1: there's stuffy there, you know, whatever. They are blue blood,
Speaker 1: they're very horny. They're always going out to them, you know,
Speaker 1: they're always going out and trying to jump the bones
Speaker 1: to somebody and stay home and knit or like watch
Speaker 1: TV or just hang out. Now you gotta go get
Speaker 1: laid all the time. I mean, come on, I seriously,
Speaker 1: I mean if I had that guy, I would literally
Speaker 1: I would be at like every sporting event possible, sitting
Speaker 1: right there in the front, enjoying the hell out of
Speaker 1: my life. But look at how they portrayed Harry throughout
Speaker 1: the years, that he's the wild child, he's partying, he's drinking,
Speaker 1: he did the Nazi thing, he's you know, he's this
Speaker 1: and at But I say, with the wife, yes, he
Speaker 1: loves her, but man, she probably does stuff to him
Speaker 1: that made him lose his mind and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going wherever you want ward. Well, I wasn't there an
Speaker 1: accusation that she was so distraught that she contemplated suicide,
Speaker 1: And now the media is saying she's lying to get attention.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I saw. Yes, that was the
Speaker 1: big heading that I saw out of it. I don't
Speaker 1: know about the suicide thing. I'm sure that's probably been
Speaker 1: in the rumor mill, but they are kind of lean.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so weird because so Piers Morgan on
Speaker 1: ITV came out on their morning show and was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculousness, you know, blah blah blah, and they're
Speaker 1: canceling Peers more and he's gone now from ITV in
Speaker 1: his morning show. So they're favored, you know, they're behind her,
Speaker 1: and then in other sense of the media is against her.
Speaker 1: So it's like this complete drama of you know, mental culture. Again,
Speaker 1: you cannot have an opinion on anything. These days without
Speaker 1: getting in trouble. I feel like depression and suicide they
Speaker 1: are heavy subjects and they're not to be you know,
Speaker 1: toyed with or made fun of. I feel like people
Speaker 1: who are making fun of that fact, you know, they
Speaker 1: should shut their mouths. But I do feel like people
Speaker 1: can say they don't believe her and not you know,
Speaker 1: I have to suffer a consequence, right, just because you
Speaker 1: don't believe somebody's interview. You know, maybe she was struggling
Speaker 1: with it. I don't know. I don't know the girl,
Speaker 1: I don't know the royals. I don't want to they
Speaker 1: can stay over over there, it's fine. I do feel
Speaker 1: bad if that's true and that's something that she was
Speaker 1: suffering and going through, because that's that's a horrible, horrible
Speaker 1: thing to have to deal with, especially with no support
Speaker 1: system from a family that you marry into. Like it
Speaker 1: feels like everybody's against you. But we don't know the story,
Speaker 1: so everybody can make their own opinions. But I just
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that you cannot say anything without
Speaker 1: having to worry, Oh, did I just piss somebody off?
Speaker 1: Exactly because of my comments? Because if they're not completely
Speaker 1: hateful or making fun of you just say, well, I
Speaker 1: didn't believe her, or you know, she I think she's
Speaker 1: fabricating or whatever, which I think Pierce Morgan might have did.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was. Was he making fun of
Speaker 1: depression or suicide or I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 1: I think he was just being very critical of the
Speaker 1: presentation of the whole that's his opinion, the poor he
Speaker 1: I think he kind of said it was the poor
Speaker 1: mean thing. Now as a viewer, and this is very
Speaker 1: funny because I was listening to it as I was
Speaker 1: doing ten other things. I sat down next to Liz
Speaker 1: on the couch that's literally right behind me. I started
Speaker 1: watching it. I put my hood over my head. I
Speaker 1: was asleep in three minutes, and she said to me,
Speaker 1: I have never seen somebody go from being fully awake
Speaker 1: to unconscious so fast. I said, well, that's because it's boring.
Speaker 1: I can listen to it, I can't watch it. Who
Speaker 1: does she believe? I don't know. I think she's kind
Speaker 1: of in the middle. Because I gotta be honest the
Speaker 1: girl megan listening to her, she's comes off very unlikable.
Speaker 1: I don't I right off the bat was like, eh,
Speaker 1: I'm not really feeling her and Oprah the Great Oprah,
Speaker 1: Oprah who's been under a rock for seventeen years, Oprah
Speaker 1: and Oprah who's a because a billionaire, we can make
Speaker 1: up a number of what she is probably got a
Speaker 1: couple of mill to sit down and talk to another
Speaker 1: couple of millionaires in this palatial mansion because by the way,
Speaker 1: they're neighbors. Oprah is neighbors with Harry and Meghan. But
Speaker 1: they did it at a neutral location. They did it
Speaker 1: at a friend's house that lives between them. Oh geez, well,
Speaker 1: we're right off on the first good foot here, like, okay, millionaire,
Speaker 1: talk to this other millionaire and let me be interested
Speaker 1: in your story. Huh yeah. And that's what took me
Speaker 1: out of it because I'm sitting there going like they're
Speaker 1: Oprah's appalled that Meghan and Harry have to pay for
Speaker 1: their own security, that the Royals aren't paying for it,
Speaker 1: but they left, so why should the royals pay for it?
Speaker 1: That I will, I will agree with. You left the
Speaker 1: confines of a fucking camp, palace or wherever the hell
Speaker 1: you lived, so why should why should they pay for
Speaker 1: their security? And Oprah's reaction, I kid you not. It
Speaker 1: was exactly this. So she goes, so you have to
Speaker 1: pay for your own security? And Megan goes yes, and
Speaker 1: Oprah goes what just like that? What? And I've seen
Speaker 1: there going like oh boo hoo, aren't the commoners now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what the hell do they even need security? They
Speaker 1: got allegedly hundreds of millions of dollars to sign like
Speaker 1: a reality TV deal and some audio deal with Spotify,
Speaker 1: and they're doing it, and they're doing it so it's
Speaker 1: like you could afford it. Diana set up a trust
Speaker 1: fund for Harry that he now cashed in on. It's like,
Speaker 1: so I said, we're essentially listening to a millionaire complain
Speaker 1: to a multi multi multi millionaire about how their families
Speaker 1: being mean to them. And I have friends in security.
Speaker 1: They're called Atlas. I'm sure they would work for much cheaper.
Speaker 1: Actually need some security. I can call Ronnie Lang security
Speaker 1: and you can vouch. You could be right there with testimonials.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's that's crazy. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry they made that decision. I do
Speaker 1: feel sorry for her if she was suffering out the depression.
Speaker 1: Depression is awful. I think all of us go through
Speaker 1: a depression at least once in our life, some more
Speaker 1: severe than others. But that's no joke. So on that note,
Speaker 1: I will, you know, say that I do feel for her,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel bad. They have to pay for
Speaker 1: their own security. That's but that's where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like losing. I'm very sympathetic too. If they
Speaker 1: feel the racial thing and the prejudic that is horrible.
Speaker 1: I mean you, you don't want to hear that even remotely,
Speaker 1: especially if it comes to your child. Ye do anything
Speaker 1: about that? That that's it. You can't help what you love.
Speaker 1: You can't help you know, your genetically. To that part
Speaker 1: I sympathize with. But the other thing, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I go, she's coming off so unlikable and I don't
Speaker 1: even like the royals. I could care less, So I'm
Speaker 1: really not a mad about here. She is the top
Speaker 1: heel and uh maybe I don't know who's the babyface.
Speaker 1: I don't think Harry Prince William because Prince William isn't
Speaker 1: at home, like all right, well my wife Sate Middleton cried,
Speaker 1: made my wife cry, you know my bro is doing
Speaker 1: And they interviewed them as well. They did not know
Speaker 1: that he Prince William made the statement. Okay, he was
Speaker 1: the spokesman for the family. What I was joking about
Speaker 1: with Prince William is remember like they made a big
Speaker 1: deal like he was such like a teen heart throb
Speaker 1: and he had Diana's looks, and he was this and that.
Speaker 1: Have you seen him lately? I have? He looks so
Speaker 1: bad with an alding hair and he just looks bro
Speaker 1: shave it. Okay, well he's He's a Charles's son, right
Speaker 1: he will. Every five minutes another piece of hair falls
Speaker 1: out of his head. He can't help that, William. Everybody's
Speaker 1: not blessed with your your charisman looks chad. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: look at guys. This is why you need to join patriarchy,
Speaker 1: because you need to see what this way this guy
Speaker 1: right here, I can't I really yeah. Okay, I'm matching.
Speaker 1: My sweatshirt is a Shea Stadium nineteen sixty four sweatshirt
Speaker 1: ready for this look? Is matching my hat It's black
Speaker 1: and orange. See I'm matching that. Great, it's great. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm on William. Johnny Candido, let's get to Johnny Candido.
Speaker 1: This would be a great, great, great interview, and I
Speaker 1: think you all enjoy so, uh, stay tuned because I'll
Speaker 1: let you throw it to you. This is Johnny Candido. Well,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be speaking with
Speaker 1: Johnny Candido. Here. He is Candido's brother. Here's Johnny guys
Speaker 1: Ny good good. Sorry. Earlier in the week, Johnny and
Speaker 1: I fought over Disney, and there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: heat there because he doesn't agree with me on how
Speaker 1: wonderful it is. I don't agree at all. My girls
Speaker 1: like all about it. She's like, oh, we got to
Speaker 1: go to Disney. I'm like, when we have kids, maybe,
Speaker 1: but what am I going to walk around he eat
Speaker 1: funnel cake and wait to go on Space Mountain with
Speaker 1: five year olds? Yeah? You do that and it's a
Speaker 1: good time pretty much. That's basically, it's a good time.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a tough sell for me, but anyway,
Speaker 1: how have you been I've been very good. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking I just passed ball at Malone's house and
Speaker 1: the last time I saw you you managed balls against me.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember, like what because I haven't
Speaker 1: seen you in quite a while. And I was just
Speaker 1: like I know we've come in other several times, but
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember the last time I actually saw you somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it was it was in Sayerville, New Jersey, and
Speaker 1: I just remember it because, you know, Balls like choke
Speaker 1: slams some dude in the bar after it was it
Speaker 1: was funny. And then also like we uh. I remember
Speaker 1: that night he duct taped me to a table and
Speaker 1: did a leg drop and then we used like the
Speaker 1: same finish when we had a cage match like a
Speaker 1: week later. But yeah, I just remember that because he
Speaker 1: was like an ECW reunion show and in the back
Speaker 1: there was like a bar for like the boys and
Speaker 1: their friends, I mean Balls were having some drinks and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh j C. That was so great. That
Speaker 1: was so great. And like some drunk dude comes up
Speaker 1: to him and he's like Johnny balls balls like not now,
Speaker 1: not now. The guy walks away, you know, guy has
Speaker 1: another drink, comes back around. He's like, Johnny balls balls
Speaker 1: like I said, not now, not now. So the guy
Speaker 1: gets a couple more in him, goes behind Balls and
Speaker 1: he goes Balls and he grabbed him by the shoulders.
Speaker 1: Balls goes He just touched me picked the guy up
Speaker 1: and threw him across the bar. Too crazy and then
Speaker 1: h you know. Then the guy run the show was like, John,
Speaker 1: could you keep him under control? Like, sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Was he the promoters it was trying to play balls off? No,
Speaker 1: it was the promoter. It was some drunk dude that
Speaker 1: like the back of the VFW was like all wrestlers
Speaker 1: and like this dude and his buddy, it's drunk dude. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds like a good time. I'm sorry I missed that part.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all there anymore. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to have you on number one. We
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this when we were first
Speaker 1: contacting each other. Chris was one of my I say
Speaker 1: it all the time, Chris was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: people ever, not just in wrestling, like just as a person,
Speaker 1: like I was obviously close to him on the road,
Speaker 1: but off the road, like I considered him as a
Speaker 1: brother as well, Like we were just like so close.
Speaker 1: And when he passed it killed me because I literally
Speaker 1: was getting on a plane to go to California when
Speaker 1: I got that phone call. And I was going to
Speaker 1: California for like two weeks and I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: come back, and I missed his burial, and that always
Speaker 1: like hung over my head that I wasn't able to go.
Speaker 1: And I said, I just hope that everybody realizes, like
Speaker 1: because it was just like a sudden thing. I was working,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I think, you know,
Speaker 1: she just didn't want to be there, Like it killed
Speaker 1: me to get on that airplane that morning. No, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, like as far like as far
Speaker 1: as like me and my family goes, there were so
Speaker 1: many people there that yeah, it was just a blur
Speaker 1: to me, to be honest, like, very few things about
Speaker 1: that day and the following days that I even remember,
Speaker 1: you know, So it was, uh, you know, it sucked.
Speaker 1: But as far as who was there and who wasn't,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you because I was just by the
Speaker 1: cast could saying, you know, thank you, hello. What's up
Speaker 1: to everybody? What is the years between you? How much
Speaker 1: older was Chris than you? Ten years? His birthday is
Speaker 1: going to be March twenty first, is coming up this month. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when he was training, he started training like super young, right,
Speaker 1: he was like what thirteen or something like thirteen he
Speaker 1: started running shows in our town, so it was even
Speaker 1: before that. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. When he was thirteen,
Speaker 1: you know, he was going to the Monster Factory. He
Speaker 1: was you know, we say our grandfather, but Pop by
Speaker 1: Chuck Richards isn't related to either one of us by blood.
Speaker 1: But it's a long story. But anyway, he was like,
Speaker 1: I want to have wrestling in Rouchi Park in spring Lake,
Speaker 1: and you know Balls lives close by, Bam Bam lives
Speaker 1: close by. So long story short, he got like dressed
Speaker 1: up in a suit and a tie and a briefcase
Speaker 1: and went to a council meeting and like pitched the
Speaker 1: whole idea and why they should have wrestling in the park,
Speaker 1: and they gave him the go ahead, and then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he started running shows there for I think
Speaker 1: it was like two summers. So they woul they would
Speaker 1: bring the ring from the Monster Factory and it was
Speaker 1: like they would like send around a can and people
Speaker 1: would put money in it, and then that's what they did.
Speaker 1: So it was cool, and there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: newspaper articles and stuff that I found about it. And
Speaker 1: then Bam Bam, who had already been like wrestling a
Speaker 1: little bit. He would come so that, you know, the
Speaker 1: newspapers would be out, they'd be taking pictures with the
Speaker 1: little kids and stuff. So it was cool. That story
Speaker 1: just amazes me because he's a baby himself and here
Speaker 1: he is running shows. Anyone else is insane that he did.
Speaker 1: So we're like, I don't know, weybe like sixty sixty
Speaker 1: miles from New York City. When he was thirteen. Him
Speaker 1: and his buddy Scott would say they were like Scott
Speaker 1: would say, say you sleeping at our house. Chris would
Speaker 1: say you sleeping in at Scott's house. And they would
Speaker 1: take a bus to Brooklyn and wrestle in these wrestling
Speaker 1: shows under this underneath this bar. It was called the
Speaker 1: Galaxium Bar or something. But he was like thirteen years old.
Speaker 1: Theyre going to bust to Brooklyn to wrestle. So Scott
Speaker 1: was Scott came in ecw what was his gimmick? And no,
Speaker 1: I don't I think we're thinking of a different Scott
Speaker 1: this it's not the same one that he brought in. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I was going to say, if it's the same guy,
Speaker 1: he was a little crazy. I think it's because I'm
Speaker 1: doing something. So you see your brother doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: You're you're three years old, I mean your baby. When
Speaker 1: did you realize like you wanted to try and wrestle? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I can remember, I always,
Speaker 1: you know, was like involved in the business. He was
Speaker 1: taking me with him, and I just figured I would
Speaker 1: just kind of fall into it one day, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of how it happened. Like from like my wrestling started.
Speaker 1: I was like nineteen, and I lifted weights with my
Speaker 1: brother the whole time, and we you know, messed around
Speaker 1: in the backyard and on the beach and everything. But uh,
Speaker 1: we get to the show in Rochester and he like
Speaker 1: looks around the locker room and he's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know any of these dudes. I'll just wrestle you for
Speaker 1: the main event. Like yeah. I'm like I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: is that cool? Like He's like, yeah, yeah, just just
Speaker 1: do the pretend it's the backyard and just just listen
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, all right. So if he hadn't
Speaker 1: been so damn good, I would have killed him. I
Speaker 1: was just like picking him up, kasplexing him, belly to belly, overhead,
Speaker 1: sue plexing him, just kicking the shit out of him.
Speaker 1: But when I so that happened, and then I started,
Speaker 1: like my first fifteen or so matches or fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty matches were against him. So that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I how I got into it, and I feel so
Speaker 1: bad for him in hindsight. Like when I first got started,
Speaker 1: I did a run. He was working as Sandman at
Speaker 1: the Amssouri Center in Jamaica, Queens and sam Man's like, hey, kid,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you involved. This is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna go. He's like He's like, He's
Speaker 1: like you slide in, get the cane, go like you're
Speaker 1: gonna hit me, and then turn and Kane Chris me
Speaker 1: and you do beers and then I'll cane you. I'm
Speaker 1: like all right. So Sadman was like, oh no. My
Speaker 1: brother was like, Johnny, when you swing the cane, don't
Speaker 1: swing at like a baseball bat. Swing it like over
Speaker 1: the top and crack me on the head. I'm like
Speaker 1: all right. So I get in there, you know, going
Speaker 1: to hit Sandman, and in the excitement, I just swung
Speaker 1: at like a baseball bat, whacked dress right in the
Speaker 1: face and he had like a black and blue stripe
Speaker 1: like across his eyes right. So the whole ride home he'said, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: you did so good. That was amazing. I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 1: So the next night I cut a promo and it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like a pull apart. So I had
Speaker 1: bant into it to be a professional boxer. I've been
Speaker 1: training that way. And he's like, you're gonna get your
Speaker 1: brain scrambled. So I'm like, all right, I'll do wrestling.
Speaker 1: So I did the promo. He comes out, he gets
Speaker 1: in my face in the ring, he shoves me, and
Speaker 1: I just go boom, boom boom. I hit him with
Speaker 1: a left right so I blacked his left eye, his
Speaker 1: right eye, and I punched him in the side and
Speaker 1: he fell on the ground. So he was like laying
Speaker 1: there before the guy's even even came out to pull
Speaker 1: us apart again. I'm the ride home, he's like, that
Speaker 1: was so good. Bro, that was so good. Forward not good,
Speaker 1: I know. So fast forward to his house and we're
Speaker 1: having a couple of drinks and I'm like, dude, give
Speaker 1: me a black guy. I'm like, you have two black guys,
Speaker 1: give me a black guy. He's like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm like, give me a black guye
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on. They kept like like
Speaker 1: need a little to give me a black eye. If
Speaker 1: like a half hour, He's like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give you a black guy. And you're like like, whack
Speaker 1: me right in the eye, fell off the bar stool.
Speaker 1: So me and him both had black eyes. And the
Speaker 1: next day and she's like, she's like, look a look
Speaker 1: at the moron brothers. What did you two do as nice? Well,
Speaker 1: you said something that I remember well work. Everybody asked
Speaker 1: who's your favorite to work with? And I have a
Speaker 1: lot of people that I loved working with. Chris is
Speaker 1: always at the top of my list because Chris was
Speaker 1: never the type of person sit down and go over
Speaker 1: every single step in the ring. Like he would always say,
Speaker 1: I'll freetine, I'll just call your name and tell you
Speaker 1: to give me a chair or tell you that. I
Speaker 1: didn't have to remember much with Chris, and it was
Speaker 1: just like working on the fly, like he liked to
Speaker 1: call things out in the ring. It was very easy
Speaker 1: like to work with. So when you just said, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll just go out there and we'll just whatever and
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you that's how Chris worked. You know,
Speaker 1: nothing against people who liked to go over every single step,
Speaker 1: but he was so just I don't want to say nonchalant,
Speaker 1: but it was more like an easy going vibe working
Speaker 1: with Chris, Like my nerves weren't as bad because it
Speaker 1: was just like he just wanted to call things out
Speaker 1: there and he would just tell you what he needed.
Speaker 1: It's very easy, I was gonna say, just because you know,
Speaker 1: he loved wrestling so much and that's like all he
Speaker 1: ever cared to do. That was where he were so
Speaker 1: good at. Like he loved everything from the ride there
Speaker 1: to being in the locker room, in the ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I can almost like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I was a pitcher on a baseball team. The other
Speaker 1: way I can kind of like think of it is
Speaker 1: I was just I couldn't wait to get to the field.
Speaker 1: They couldn't wait to pitch. I couldn't wait to like
Speaker 1: and like times that by ten and that was that
Speaker 1: was my brother. But like as far as wrestling goes,
Speaker 1: my first couple of matches, I did want to call
Speaker 1: everything because I was nervous, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: like he'd later on, I'm like, hey, dude, you know
Speaker 1: mean this is like ten fifteen matches in I'm like,
Speaker 1: we'll do this gimmick, you know where he whip into
Speaker 1: the term buckle. He's like like, I'm not calling anything.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, the finishes a sunset flip, just
Speaker 1: keep your ears open. And then like my last couple
Speaker 1: of matches, I guess he just made it a point,
Speaker 1: but he just like ran me ragged. And I remember
Speaker 1: after it was like a like we did like two
Speaker 1: nights in a row of like half hour, forty five
Speaker 1: minute matches and I just barred after both of them.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. He was just trying to show me, like
Speaker 1: how you know there's levels to this. You know, so
Speaker 1: you worked obviously you worked after he passed. Did you
Speaker 1: keep that train to fall? Like you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: work with my brother, I'm gonna calling out there. I
Speaker 1: think I think I'm more depended on who I was
Speaker 1: working with. Yeah, Like again, if it was Balls, we
Speaker 1: knew each other so well, but man, I would kick
Speaker 1: the shit out of him because he was He would
Speaker 1: be like like, for instance, we had that cage match
Speaker 1: I was telling you about. He was he was like
Speaker 1: writing shit in notebook like finishing this for like a
Speaker 1: week before, and we were doing a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff off the top of the cage. And then, like
Speaker 1: I remember getting to the building that day, he's selling
Speaker 1: his gimmicks, so I can't go over and talk to him.
Speaker 1: He'd like, you know, going into the bathroom real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you want to talk about what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. He's like, not now, I'm selling my things.
Speaker 1: Not now, He's like, but he killed his motherfucker. And
Speaker 1: then finally, finally, when we got right before I match,
Speaker 1: he's like, he's like, oh, here's we're gonna do boomba boom.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're gonna miss a swanton through a table.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chear shot you, duct tape you to a table,
Speaker 1: climb up the cage and jump off and give you
Speaker 1: a leg drop. And I just remember like laying on
Speaker 1: the table, duct taped, like looking up, seeing his ass
Speaker 1: like crawl up the cage and then like close my eyes,
Speaker 1: just being like all right, pretend you're not even here.
Speaker 1: And then boom, and the people at the show were
Speaker 1: like they like gasped. His mom like ran to the front.
Speaker 1: He's like John, you killed them. This is so they
Speaker 1: took me out on a stretcher and everything. But long
Speaker 1: story long, it depended on who I worked with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're lucky he didn't set on fire because he'd liked
Speaker 1: to do that to some people. Yeah he did. He did.
Speaker 1: He was very fond of the kerosene and the fire.
Speaker 1: Your book, What made you decide to write about your brother?
Speaker 1: How long in the making is this? Because I honestly
Speaker 1: didn't even know you were doing it until I saw
Speaker 1: it on Twitter and I was like, oh, wow, he's
Speaker 1: writing a book or he wrote a book. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe in like twenty ten, I started. I started
Speaker 1: writing a book, and so I started at the end,
Speaker 1: like you know, the days leading up to his funeral
Speaker 1: and all the crazy shit that happened after. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I worked up and I say, I got
Speaker 1: like one hundred and thirty pages in and I read
Speaker 1: it back, and me and him work together like every day,
Speaker 1: especially the last like three years of his life. So
Speaker 1: I read it back, I'm like, man, this doesn't even
Speaker 1: scratch the surface. I'm like fuck. So I put it away.
Speaker 1: And then John Cosper just finished doing Tracy Smothers book
Speaker 1: and Tracy Smothers is like, you have to do a
Speaker 1: book on Chris Candido. So then John Cosper called me
Speaker 1: and he's like interview with me for the book, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, I have a book that I started writing.
Speaker 1: Can I email it to you? He said yes, and
Speaker 1: then he read through it. He's like this is really
Speaker 1: awesome stuff, Like can I use it and make a
Speaker 1: co author? I'm like absolutely, And I'm like I have
Speaker 1: a bazillion pictures too, So I you know, scan him
Speaker 1: over like one hundred something pictures, told you know, sent
Speaker 1: him my book and then you know, every day I
Speaker 1: would like pass someplace and I'd be like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: that's the time that you know, me and Chris saw
Speaker 1: this old lady chauvelin d driveway. So we did it
Speaker 1: for I would like tell him stories like every day.
Speaker 1: So it was hard to like pick and choose which
Speaker 1: stories went into the book, but it came out really well.
Speaker 1: I'm really stoked. Yeah, I'm really excited to read it.
Speaker 1: Did you like, did you contact people for stories? Like
Speaker 1: is Tammy involved at all? Or did you I mean
Speaker 1: me and her are you know, you know, okay, so
Speaker 1: but so I mean she's in there like for parts,
Speaker 1: but as part of stories like Dreamers, Dreamer got interviewed,
Speaker 1: Jim Cornett got interviewed, doctor Tom Okay, Dan Severn, a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people, you know, even like like younger
Speaker 1: guys like Brian Myers, guys who like were coming up
Speaker 1: and you know how my brother was. He didn't care,
Speaker 1: he was cool to everybody. Yeah, like that like meant
Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of like younger guys who
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, the guys who were older them
Speaker 1: were kind of like you know, not like kind of
Speaker 1: like being dicks and acting like they were too cool
Speaker 1: my brother, you know, when Chris would just you know,
Speaker 1: talk and hang with anyone. So yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 1: like a who's who of people that got interviewed, which
Speaker 1: is really cool. Nice. Well, I'm super excited to uh
Speaker 1: to read this book because like I said, I saw
Speaker 1: I saw you on Twitter, I saw there was book,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, wow, finally somebody is paying
Speaker 1: homage to him, because I always say he is he's
Speaker 1: so underappreciated in this business. I think he would have
Speaker 1: been a great ECW heavyweight champion. I think Paul definitely
Speaker 1: should have given him a run with that belt because
Speaker 1: him and Shane we could have feuded and did so
Speaker 1: much more than I think anyway, because I think Chris
Speaker 1: was the perfect package. I honestly do, and I've said
Speaker 1: that from day one, Like he had he could do everything,
Speaker 1: and the most endearing quality was his personality. And I
Speaker 1: just I loved him so much. I still do. When
Speaker 1: I say my prayers at night, I always you can
Speaker 1: and this is no bs, I include him and Louis
Speaker 1: Piccoli all the time because they I loved those two dearly.
Speaker 1: So I'm just so happy that somebody is finally putting
Speaker 1: Chris over in a good light because the boys always
Speaker 1: talk about him great, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like as a worker, I don't think
Speaker 1: he was pushed the way he should have been. I
Speaker 1: think he could have did so much more. You agree, Chad, Oh? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1: We talked about him basically every every few weeks that
Speaker 1: were either watching something that he's in or you know,
Speaker 1: he just was He was so good. And I think about,
Speaker 1: you know, right before he passed, what he was about
Speaker 1: to do in TNA, like where that was going to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, that could have been a whole reinvention of
Speaker 1: where he was going to be headed in the next
Speaker 1: couple of years of his career. So yeah, I absolutely agree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have that in the book too, because they were
Speaker 1: talking to the guy I think his name's Andy Douglass,
Speaker 1: the guy from the Natural. Yes, yep, they and they
Speaker 1: he's he got an interviewed for the book, and you know,
Speaker 1: they said they had the whole next like year planned out,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Chris Passing kind of threw a
Speaker 1: through a wrench in there and their plans. But you know,
Speaker 1: even cooler than like how good he was in the
Speaker 1: ring and how much he uh, you know it was
Speaker 1: admired by the guys. He just him as a person.
Speaker 1: He was just so amazing. Like you know, what I
Speaker 1: think about like when he was messed up those days,
Speaker 1: you know, really sucked. But what I really think of
Speaker 1: was when he got clean and when you know, he
Speaker 1: lived a couple of towns over and he would just
Speaker 1: have all my friends over all the time. He was
Speaker 1: like a big brother, like the whole neighborhood and he
Speaker 1: was just always so cool and like, you know, never
Speaker 1: met a stranger, and you know, it was just a
Speaker 1: really awesome guy. So you know, and like There are
Speaker 1: a lot of the stories in the book. A lot
Speaker 1: of them, you know, most of them from wrestling. A
Speaker 1: lot of them are from you know, just like you know,
Speaker 1: being around town and normal life. I get telling about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm from Jersey so you know. And you
Speaker 1: just did an interview with my my partner and the
Speaker 1: Tom Power Trip John. You know, we used to go
Speaker 1: to the NWS shows all the time, so we'd see you,
Speaker 1: we'd see Chris. You know, my my one of my
Speaker 1: other buddies went to the same gym as Chris. Chris
Speaker 1: would be giving him advice on on lifting him in
Speaker 1: the wall. They were, they were there all the time. Beach. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: it is unbelievable the connections, especially in that Jersey Shore area.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody has a Chris Candido story if you
Speaker 1: grew up in that area as a wrestling fan. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: you want to hear a funny story about Barry's Bar.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about Bradley Beach. So there was a bar
Speaker 1: down the street called Barry's Right. And uh so, going back,
Speaker 1: Chris bench five hundred pounds when he was nineteen and
Speaker 1: I was when he was in Smoking Mountain. There was
Speaker 1: this dude named Bruiser Bedlam, and he was like he
Speaker 1: had yeah, yeah, he had like a seven hundred pounds
Speaker 1: bench and he's like, hey kid, He's like, uh, if
Speaker 1: you're a three plate guy, don't even talk to me.
Speaker 1: If you're a four plate guy, you can get me
Speaker 1: a cold drink. If you're a five plate guy, we
Speaker 1: can hang out. I remember thinking, like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a five plate guy. So fast forward, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty and there's five plates on the on the bench,
Speaker 1: it's four ninety five and I'm like, I get it
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, I racket. I'm like, I'm my guys,
Speaker 1: put a five on either side. I want to make
Speaker 1: it five oh five. So you know I'm a five
Speaker 1: play guy. So boom, I hit it for a double
Speaker 1: freaking stoked. We go over, like, let's go to barriies
Speaker 1: and celebrate. So we go to batteries. We have like
Speaker 1: a shot in a beer. Chris was really a big drinker,
Speaker 1: but he's like a little tips. He's like, hey, bartender,
Speaker 1: check out a little brother man. Check him out. Bench
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds, only twenty years old. Only twenty years old,
Speaker 1: Bench five hundred pounds. The bartenders winking at him, like
Speaker 1: how old is he? It's like he's twenty years old
Speaker 1: to the size, and then uh balls, was there going
Speaker 1: too too? He's like, mister wrestling number two, what does
Speaker 1: he have to do with anything? Oh god? Then and
Speaker 1: we're like kicking the chairs, like what are you kicking
Speaker 1: my chair for? And we're like, dude, the drinking. He's
Speaker 1: just fucking twenty one, and he's like, oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: twenty two. Like that. It just it just took him
Speaker 1: like an uncomfortable amount of time to realize what he's doing.
Speaker 1: You know, it was funny though, he's so good. Oh god, Well,
Speaker 1: where where can we find your book? How can people
Speaker 1: buy it? I got one right here in my car,
Speaker 1: he said, get pulled by telling the car. You can
Speaker 1: get him from my car. Now, you can get him
Speaker 1: at each sleep wrestler dot com. That's John Cosper's website.
Speaker 1: That's if you want to sign one by me and John,
Speaker 1: or you could just go to Amazon and search Chris Candido.
Speaker 1: No gimmicks needed. Awesome, awesome? Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Do you want to give your Twitter out? Or yeah,
Speaker 1: my Twitter is mostly like wrestling stuff. I did it
Speaker 1: to you know to preserve Chris's memory. It's Candido one
Speaker 1: eighteen c A N D I D O one eighteen awesome. Well, Johnny,
Speaker 1: it was great to see you again. I wish you
Speaker 1: a ton of success in life generally, but of course
Speaker 1: with the book as well. I look forward to getting
Speaker 1: my copy and I'll let you know what I think
Speaker 1: of it. I'm sure i'm gonna love it. But you know,
Speaker 1: your brother was, he's here. He's always going to be
Speaker 1: here for me. So it's you tell the stories and
Speaker 1: I love seeing pictures that you post, and it's just
Speaker 1: seeing him as a little kid just brings us smile
Speaker 1: on my face. So he made me smile, So thank you. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, Well yeah, thanks so much. And the
Speaker 1: book's been it's been received so awesome, and I'm so
Speaker 1: stoked that it's been. You know, it was on like
Speaker 1: the top it's been that when it was a new release,
Speaker 1: it was between like one and four for the first month,
Speaker 1: and now it's been it was like on the top
Speaker 1: wrestling books. It was it's been as high as number
Speaker 1: seven today only one, but it's like it's getting received
Speaker 1: very well. Awesome. I'm really happy about that. Well, congratulations,
Speaker 1: much success to you, and maybe I'll see you down
Speaker 1: the line somewhere. Sounds good, all right, honey, take care,
Speaker 1: take care, bye bye. That's awesome. And there it goes
Speaker 1: Johnny Canty. Yeah, yeah, it's good too. Uh, it's good
Speaker 1: to see him, and uh, hopefully everybody gets a copy.
Speaker 1: No gimmicks needed. Great cover. Isn't that a great picture
Speaker 1: on the cover. Yeah, he's Uh, it's well deserving. His
Speaker 1: story deserves to be told in a good light because
Speaker 1: there's so much negativity about you know, him and Tammy.
Speaker 1: So I popped when I saw the john because Johnny
Speaker 1: will make them shine. So it's a good thing. Absolutely. Well,
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Speaker 1: he goes Johnny Casey will a great coverage. It's a
Speaker 1: great conversation. I mean, I'll reveal it. I'll have the
Speaker 1: book here. Yes, no gimmicks needed. Michael is delayed. I
Speaker 1: don't know where my book is very excited to read this.
Speaker 1: Uh it just you know, and I said it at
Speaker 1: the end of the interview there too. I mean, just
Speaker 1: the Jersey connection, you know, you get your So our
Speaker 1: celebrities were Bruce Springsteen and bon Jovi in my area, right,
Speaker 1: but for wrestling we knew Bam Bam and Candido were
Speaker 1: and Bundy. Bundy was more South Jersey. My area is
Speaker 1: specifically a park, spring Lake. That's Candido. One thing on
Speaker 1: the boardwalk once, did you really? Yeah? Walking on the
Speaker 1: w in Wildwood. Can't miss him though, Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was huge. I saw Veto on the boardwalk. Okay, odd
Speaker 1: place to find him, right, yep, But yeah, no, just
Speaker 1: such a great thing. And I know, you know, it
Speaker 1: meant a lot for you to say what you did too,
Speaker 1: Johnny about Chris, So it was cool to share all that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I and that always hung over my head, so I
Speaker 1: just wanted him to know why, you know, I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: And it still bothers me to this day, like I
Speaker 1: feel so bad about it. But literally walking on a
Speaker 1: plane and I get the call from Tammy and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, the timing absolutely awful. But
Speaker 1: you know, you know what. I remember seeing Chris and
Speaker 1: Tammy at a convention maybe a few months earlier in Jersey,
Speaker 1: and that was the first time I saw him in
Speaker 1: person again after years and being like, he is freaking
Speaker 1: amazingly jacked like he was. You couldn't you couldn't believe
Speaker 1: when he walked by like that, he was so tan
Speaker 1: and jack. Yeah. I remember one time he called me
Speaker 1: and said he put hair dye in his hair. I
Speaker 1: might have said this before, and he fell asleep for
Speaker 1: hours and he said he was literally breaking his hair
Speaker 1: off his head because it stayed on. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: regular hair dye. It was like is it ammonia? Pneumonia.
Speaker 1: What do you put on your hair? I don't even
Speaker 1: know what it's called? Uh roxwood? No, this like to
Speaker 1: make his hair white? Yeah, it was. His hair was
Speaker 1: legit bleach. I don't know why. I'm going to get
Speaker 1: the name of my head. It was bleach. And he
Speaker 1: said he fell asleep and when he woke up it
Speaker 1: was crispy and just breaking off his I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that is unbelievable. I'm looking to see they had. I mean,
Speaker 1: the pictures in this book alone are very good. I
Speaker 1: showed you there's a picture of you with Candido and
Speaker 1: Lance Storm. You said, that's your broken pelvis. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I'm sitting down. I'm on a chair. This this
Speaker 1: was right here. This is the last picture of him
Speaker 1: from impact. This was his last literally closing one of
Speaker 1: the shows. That was the last image you saw, and
Speaker 1: literally get you. They were poisoning him for a huge,
Speaker 1: huge spot you could tell. And and he deserved it too. Crazy,
Speaker 1: so unfortunate. Now we got to bring the mood back up.
Speaker 1: I know, what are we How we talk about what's
Speaker 1: going on Patreon this week? Okay we can I already
Speaker 1: called you guys out listening to this before. So now
Speaker 1: open up your ears, slappy, all right, slept clappy. I
Speaker 1: gotta throw this in there. We're gonna show one more
Speaker 1: live stream from that from Disney and just because you
Speaker 1: cover a lot of ground I did, and it really
Speaker 1: is interesting if you're a Disney fan, if you, I
Speaker 1: mean you go on YouTube right now and pull them
Speaker 1: fifty videos of the same thing, but this time you
Speaker 1: get Francine like literally commenting and talking as she's doing stuff.
Speaker 1: So as I'm wrangling my children, pushing my husband, trying
Speaker 1: to make towns and I'm doing it all. But if
Speaker 1: this is the last one, I swear this is the
Speaker 1: last one. Uh. This is also why our production schedule
Speaker 1: is a little lighter this week. But I'm happy with that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good one, so that's why I
Speaker 1: picked it. It was a good time. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: still relive your trip for the last time. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then this is great. We're gonna have Patrick or Pat
Speaker 1: from our Patreon coming joy. The game is called is
Speaker 1: franc Seeing Older Than? I changed it to who Was
Speaker 1: Older just because because Pat is a wall breaker. And
Speaker 1: but that's fine, you didn't have to change the name.
Speaker 1: I'm a people, please, I'm older than dirt, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. I don't want to spoil any other questions.
Speaker 1: I might be older than dirt, but I sure as
Speaker 1: hell don't look older than dirt. So there you go. Well,
Speaker 1: we're going to find out who is older than you?
Speaker 1: What are you older than? That's going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting game. That is interesting because I have no clue
Speaker 1: tied into your birthday. It's the same thing we had
Speaker 1: a few weeks back where our Patreon member Jay couldn't
Speaker 1: make it, just missed it. Pat was in the same boat.
Speaker 1: So he's going to come on and play this game
Speaker 1: and then here for the watch along. You said you
Speaker 1: were not feeling at your greatest, you were feeling sinus
Speaker 1: pressure or whatever. Yeah, So we're going to take a
Speaker 1: break from wrestling this week. Oh okay, We're going to
Speaker 1: tap into one of your happy places. We're going to
Speaker 1: watch some slow we're gonna watch some victories, we're gonna
Speaker 1: watch some jackpots, and you're gonna we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: people winning money, how we watch people winning money, and
Speaker 1: how we'd like to beat those people winning that mon
Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, I wonder who you? Oh, it's
Speaker 1: a compilation that I picked. It's a it's a compilation.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yay. I hope I never seen this one.
Speaker 1: I hope so too. So it's a again a little
Speaker 1: different cheer up, cheer you up, but you're not feeling
Speaker 1: so hot this right, I'm down. You know who else
Speaker 1: loves slots his pats off the trip? So perfecto? Right,
Speaker 1: I love this segment. Yayians are abundant in the eyes
Speaker 1: up here at universe. But that's why I got to
Speaker 1: join Patreon dot com. Francine Podcast. It's all the time,
Speaker 1: now you did, Disney? Do you have any slot trips
Speaker 1: in the making? Now? Not right now. My mom keeps
Speaker 1: saying that she wants to go, and uh, you know, sheep.
Speaker 1: It's a sin because she can't see. She can't only hear.
Speaker 1: So when we go, I like, she sits next to
Speaker 1: me in her wheelchair and then I play for her
Speaker 1: because she can she really can't see what's going on.
Speaker 1: I just say, oh you are I know you lost,
Speaker 1: you know, but she was taking the chips. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: did great nosips. Now it's all Tito's to it out.
Speaker 1: But I've been trying to find I've been trying to
Speaker 1: find the vaccination for her, and I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 1: We weren't. I'm not. I'm still not getting it. But
Speaker 1: my sister talked her the fear of God into my mother,
Speaker 1: so now she went from not wanting it to wanting it.
Speaker 1: So I want a mission. So she says, well, once
Speaker 1: I'm vaccinated, maybe you can take I'm like, okay. So
Speaker 1: by the time I find this frigging vaccine, I think
Speaker 1: the virus is going to be long gone. We're not
Speaker 1: going to need it anyway. But I've called around and
Speaker 1: it's just a waiting game here, like you have to
Speaker 1: get on a waiting list and I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I took her to the cardiologist and they said, oh,
Speaker 1: they were number ten thousand on this waiting Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's like ridiculous here. So I have to investigate different
Speaker 1: places because I don't know where to go. Now. Have
Speaker 1: you watched South Park this week? Not yet? Okay? Did you? Oh?
Speaker 1: I watched it when it aired. I said, the lizard
Speaker 1: is the first time and I can't even remember how
Speaker 1: long that I sat down when something aired and watched it.
Speaker 1: It is so awesome. But how they talk about old
Speaker 1: people and the vaccine older people. I don't mean it
Speaker 1: is Oh my god. Yeah, I'm definitely watching that one.
Speaker 1: Definitely watching that one. I've been on a south Park kick,
Speaker 1: Like I went onto plaques and I said to Hubs,
Speaker 1: do we have South Park? And you had to see
Speaker 1: the look he gave me. He was like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you should have just asked me first, and I
Speaker 1: would have told you to save you that look. I
Speaker 1: knew we had it, but I wasn't sure if he
Speaker 1: kept up, and of course we have it up to
Speaker 1: probably he probably has the vaccine one on there by now.
Speaker 1: But I started going through like them, and I know
Speaker 1: we're almost done the show, but good lord, the topics
Speaker 1: that they covered, I totally forgot. Some of they are
Speaker 1: just like you can't say that, like why isn't why
Speaker 1: aren't they canceled culture? Why are they allowed to get away?
Speaker 1: I think as they do it under the guise if
Speaker 1: it's a animated show, I'm not offended by any like
Speaker 1: you could say what you want, like it's your show.
Speaker 1: But some of those topics are crazy. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the scientology stuff, the prophet Mohammed, oh my god. Two
Speaker 1: episodes the other night. I was hysterical laying in bed
Speaker 1: trying not to wake up the house because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to laugh too loud. But I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to sales part kick, so I'm definitely gonna watch
Speaker 1: that one, but I have to find vaccine. She really
Speaker 1: wants it, and you know, if she wants it, she
Speaker 1: wants She's gonna be ninety one. You know, if they're
Speaker 1: saying we're going to die in seven years from it,
Speaker 1: she'll be ninety eight. So it's run hell of a
Speaker 1: run for me, not so much for her. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forget what do they call it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: spoil it, but it's just what they do with the
Speaker 1: older people. I was dying and it's so true. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out, have you noticed that they
Speaker 1: put the Q at the end of South Park in
Speaker 1: the ads? Have you seen that? If you look at
Speaker 1: all their their social media, all their listings at South
Speaker 1: d r A Q. That's interesting. They talk all about it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting. Yeah. I got a lot of text
Speaker 1: messages from our friend about Q as well. I believe
Speaker 1: I sent the preview of the episode to him and
Speaker 1: he got yeah, I believe that he enjoys a little
Speaker 1: South Park himself South Parks Universe. It crosses all barriers. Amazing.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll get a fun, fun week ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch these shows, and I just I
Speaker 1: want more people to be excited and come along with
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Speaker 1: tweak that we're going to make to Patreon to make
Speaker 1: it even freaking better. Yeah, you don't even have to
Speaker 1: make it better, and we're making it better. We're gonna
Speaker 1: make it better. We strive for perfection. God damn it.
Speaker 1: I love it. All right, Well, we'll say goodbye for
Speaker 1: this week. If you want to follow me, it's at
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Speaker 1: forty minute that I could ever record, And sometimes it
Speaker 1: literally is just me talking to the camera or to
Speaker 1: to the microphone. Because yeah haha, because it's audio. I've
Speaker 1: gotten more like positive responses about this little show that
Speaker 1: I have like anything else I've done in a wrestling capacity,
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Speaker 1: scene And on that note, uh, what do I usually say?
Speaker 1: You say, that's a wrap. But I threw up. I
Speaker 1: throw the three fingers when I sign off. Now, I
Speaker 1: threw up the three fingers and to nothing. I looked
Speaker 1: at you and got so distracted by your I do
Speaker 1: the whole franchise thing. I do the whole thing with
Speaker 1: the three Don't you ever gonna come and do something
Speaker 1: like in a Shane voice, And I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: go and end it and get your ass franchise. That's
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