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Speaker 1: another break, all right, mango, So, since he brought up

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00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: man eating fly traps again, I thought we should settle

429
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: the age old debate and answer once and for all

430
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: whether or not a venus fly trap can really digest

431
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: human flat if any guesses on this fet so, I

432
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: would rather not have to watch my back around the

433
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: house plants. So I want to believe that they can't.

434
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: But I guess there's no reason why they couldn't. Write,

435
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they wouldn't be able to swallow a whole

436
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: person or anything, but if you threw a little bit

437
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: of skin in there, it feels like the plant could

438
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: probably eat it. It's actually true. I mean, it turns

439
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: out that the fly trap can eat a person so

440
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: long as they were fed. You know, just a gram

441
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: or two at a time. And this is something we

442
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: know thanks to a carnivorous plant enthusiast named Barry Rice.

443
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: And no, Berry did not chop up a bunch of

444
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: people and feed them to his plants, But just about

445
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: seven years ago, Barry did contract this mean case of athletes,

446
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: and that gave him the idea for an experiment. He

447
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: decided to tear off some of his loop to skin

448
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: and feed it to one of his venus fly traps,

449
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: just you know, just to see what would happen. So

450
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: he triggered the trap to clothes and about a week

451
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: later it reopened with just a tiny bit of half

452
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: digested skin google left inside and the rest had been

453
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: completely digested and the plant was totally fine. That is

454
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: so gross, and just the idea that you put a

455
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: little bit of tow skin in there, no hot sauce

456
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: or salt or condiment, that's right. I do have to

457
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: admit it is kind of cool that we're still finding

458
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: out new things about these plants after all these years, right,

459
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: Like even if one of those things is that they

460
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: could potentially eat our feet. You know, Another big question

461
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: I've had is how did the venus fly trap get

462
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: their name, and I mean, the fly trap part makes sense,

463
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: but how does the venus fit in? Like is it

464
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: a reference to the goddess of love or to the planet,

465
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Because to be honest, neither one really makes full sense

466
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I was curious about that too, but

467
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything definitive. Some naturalists say the name

468
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: comes from the white flowers and these ornate leaves that

469
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: the plant produces, and supposedly they were so beautiful and

470
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: feminine that people began to associate them with the goddess venus. However,

471
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: there's another theory that many historians subscribe to, and that

472
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: one's a little dirtier. Apparently, a bunch of naturalists in

473
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: the late seventeen hundreds they thought the plant's trap was,

474
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of resembled a female genitalia, So so

475
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: they started calling it tippity twitchet, which is not a

476
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: term I learned in health class. This was the seventeen

477
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: hundreds and it was a different time. But you know,

478
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: a few years later someone decided to class up the

479
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: illusion to femininity and they gave it the name of

480
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: a goddess instead. It was naturalists or just a bunch

481
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: of cards I think I'd rather stick with the little

482
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Shop of Horror's origin story and just say that the

483
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: plants are actually aliens from outer space, and I guess

484
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: the planet Venus presumably. Yeah, so you know, a hundred

485
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: years ago, you wouldn't have been alone in that theory.

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: So back then we didn't know much about the surface

487
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: of Venus, and all you could see through a telescope

488
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: was this thick blanket of clouds. So a ton of

489
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: researchers speculated that Venus might be this steamy planet covered

490
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: with lush jungle landscape. And you know, this really sparked

491
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: the public's imagination. Um sci fi writers began depicting the

492
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: planet as this I guess, this world of carnivorous plants,

493
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: and and of course that theory fell to the wayside.

494
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: One scientist actually could see the planet's surface and and

495
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: realized that it's actually a bombing nine hundred degrees or

496
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: so on it. So you know that that isn't great

497
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: for supporting life. Yeah, it seems like there was a

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: period from about the eighteen eighties to the mid nineteen

499
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: hundreds when these stories of manating plants were really all

500
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: the rage. And you know, one of those famous instances.

501
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Was also the first depiction of carnivorous plants and pop

502
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: culture that was supposedly this first hand account from a

503
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: German explorer and scientist and in eight one he claimed

504
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: to have witnessed the ceremony in which this tribe and

505
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Madagascar actually sacrificed a woman to this enormous flesh eating tree,

506
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: and he described the plant as having a base like

507
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: that of a pineapple, with eight long spiky leaves and

508
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: six powerful tendrils that could wrap around a victim kind

509
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: of like snakes would I guess. And this was published

510
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: as if it was a true story, like in newspapers. Yeah,

511
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean newspapers, magazines, science journals, you name it. And

512
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: other explorers confirmed this story over the years, though none

513
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: of them ever provided any hard evidence of what they

514
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: claimed to have seen, and the reports were just accepted

515
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: as fact for decades, all the way up until you know,

516
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: like the mid nineteen fifties when this science writer named

517
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Willie Lay finally debunked this whole thing as being a hoax. So,

518
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I guess this was all made up as a way

519
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: to like make money or something. Well, somebody made the

520
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: story of but it actually wasn't the stories author, And

521
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: in the end the German explorer turned out to be

522
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: just as fake as the tribe and the plant itself,

523
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: and so nobody really knows who was behind the hoax,

524
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: but whoever it was helps cement these carnivorous plants and

525
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: the popular culture for decades after. Without this man eating

526
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: tree of Madagascar to pave the way, we may never

527
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: have gotten the genre classics like Little Shop of Horrors

528
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: or some of the others, which, obviously, as you said earlier,

529
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: made such an impact on you. So you know, what

530
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: I find really strange is for all the stories we've

531
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: concocted about the threat of carnivorous plants and how creepy

532
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: most people seem to find them, the plants are really

533
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: the ones that should be afraid of Oz, not the

534
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: other way around. What do you mean by that, well,

535
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: matchbox cars for starters, but of course, But one thing

536
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I came across this week is that many carnivorous plants

537
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: species are endangered, possibly as many as half of all

538
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: known species, and as you might guess, humans are the

539
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: biggest threat they face, from habitat loss to pollution to

540
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: even poaching. And we're just making things really difficult for

541
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: me eating plants, say poaching, So people poach these carnivorous plants. Yeah,

542
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: it's actually a huge problem. So, um, if you take

543
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: venus fly traps, for instance, you remember how Jefferson had

544
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: such a hard time sourcing them even though he lived

545
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: just one state north of their native habitat. I mean

546
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: that's because wild fly traps grow in this extremely limited area.

547
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: There's a seventy five mile range in and around Wilmington,

548
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and even within that area, the plants are

549
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: really rare. Alright, So did the plants go for a

550
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: lot of money or something, because I feel like you

551
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: can find them pretty cheap if you just go to

552
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: greenhouses and they're even in those children science kids like that.

553
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: You see. Sometimes I'm a little confused by that. Yeah,

554
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: that's the thing that the plants only net the poachers

555
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: about twenty five cents each on the black market, So

556
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: that means they actually have to make off with a

557
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: huge bunch of plants in order for it to be lucrative,

558
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: and of course that only makes a problem worse. Right,

559
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, I was reading this story in Smithsonian

560
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: about this international group of fly trap poachers who once

561
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: tried to smuggle nine thousand poached fly traps on a

562
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: flight to Netherlands. Yeah, it's more than a quarter of

563
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: the species naturally growing population. Awesome. I'm assuming they were caught. Yeah,

564
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: thankfully they were intercepted at customs. Um, this is a

565
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: little random, but the Dutch guy who tried to smuggle

566
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: plants claimed that he was he was actually exporting Christmas ferns,

567
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: which is such a strange thing. That's a pretty bold move.

568
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously there are laws against what these

569
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: guys were doing, right, Yeah, definitely. In fact, the problem

570
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: got to be so bad then late two thousand and fourteen,

571
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: North Carolina passed more laws to about stealing flight trafts.

572
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: But um, you know, now poachers can actually face anywhere

573
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: from one to three years in prison for digging up

574
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the plants. Hopefully that does the trick and kind of

575
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: convinces these folks to leave them where they are. But

576
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's bizarre and unsettling as carnivorous plants can be,

577
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: they undoubtedly make the world a stranger and more colorful

578
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: place to live. So I hope they stick around. Obviously

579
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: amen to that, But you know, because it couldn't hurt

580
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: to stay on their good side. But what do you

581
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: say we headed the fact off and share some of

582
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: the more fun facts about carniverous plants. All right, that

583
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: sounds like a plan. Yeah. While Facebook has developed a

584
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: reputation is the place to stock xs and manipulate elections,

585
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: you shouldn't really get down on the social media site

586
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: just yet. Because one of the cooler things Facebook has

587
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: helped us do is identify new species. There's this amateur

588
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: researcher named Reginaldo vascan Salos, and he uploaded a picture

589
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: of a plant he saw on a hike on this

590
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: mountaintop in Brazil, and it turned out to be a

591
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: new species called the Magnificent sun dub. Apparently, plant, which

592
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: grows five feet tall and can eat dragonflies, is severely endangered.

593
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: But it's on this mountain that a lot of people access,

594
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: so it's kind of surprising that it took us this

595
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: long to find it. Okay, So we talked about this earlier,

596
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: that carnivorous plants use all sorts of techniques to attract

597
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: their prey, you know, from bright color to the various

598
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: fragrances they admit. Scientists in India just discovered that they

599
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: have another trick up their slaves. Some picture. It's in

600
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: the region glow with this ultra violet ring around their room,

601
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: and so while humans can't see the ring, ants and

602
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: other insects are actually very much attracted to it. That's

603
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: really fascinating. But how do you test out something like that. Well,

604
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: the scientists actually painted some of the plants in the

605
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: wild with some sort of chemical that turned the UV

606
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: ring off, and when they did that, those plants weren't

607
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: able to catch nearly as much food as the others.

608
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: That's really fascinating. So Alice Obscura has a little piece

609
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: on celebrities with animals named for them, and of course

610
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: there are plenty of these right Like we've talked about

611
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner has a rabbit name for him. I think

612
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson has a hermit crab. We've recently talked about

613
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: a shark name for Peter Benchley. But you know, according

614
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: to the article, only about fifty people have two animals

615
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: named for them, and only nine people have more than

616
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: five species named for them. And those heroes tend to

617
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: be people like uh Franklin Roosevelt, Barack Obama, Nelson Mandela.

618
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: But you know, one person with at least eighteen critters

619
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: and plants named for him is David attenborgh Um. The

620
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: naturalist has a wildflower, a flightless weevil, and a kidna

621
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: and at Addenborough saurus. But these are all for the

622
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: most interesting to me is the Adenburgh picture plant, which

623
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: is only found on one mountain in the Philippines. And

624
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: this is actually the one that's big enough to digest rats.

625
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: And oh wow, I'd actually love to see one of

626
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: those things. That's pretty wild. Well, here's something that's interesting.

627
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: In Wilmington, North Carolina. There's a massive carnivorous plant garden.

628
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: The city apparently created the space after a beloved horticulturist

629
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: named Stanley Reader who had passed away. Now he was

630
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: known around the town as the fly Trap. And it's

631
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: cool because there's a full three force acre dedicated to

632
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: cultivating picture plants, sun dues, venus, fly traps and all

633
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: these other meat eating species. And so visitors can come

634
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: for free and take tours while they're there, and with

635
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the one note being that they're asked to wear clothes

636
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: toe choose because you know, of course the plants do

637
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: have feet, but what's crazy is that this is a

638
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: with a lot of thefts. Actually, in fact, in two

639
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, one thousand venus fly traps valued at twenty

640
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars were stolen from this location alone, And while

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Speaker 1: the criminals behind this plant heist were never caught, that's

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Speaker 1: actually the crime that triggered making stealing anyone's venus fly

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Speaker 1: trap of felony. Oh that's interesting, and I do kind

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Speaker 1: of love the idea of a venus fly trying at heist,

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Speaker 1: like I would love for the next Oceans eleven to

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Speaker 1: be based on that. You know, I had a fact

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Speaker 1: about furniture that's been made to eat insects and and

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Speaker 1: even small rodents, and it's all based on flat traps.

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Speaker 1: But I actually think we should end with flat trap man.

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Speaker 1: I think he deserves the credit. So sorry, I got

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Speaker 1: a little distracted because it actually looks like Tristan finally

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Speaker 1: got the slim Jim to go down. That's oh no, wait,

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Speaker 1: looks like he's eating at Tristan eight. That's amazing. That's

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Speaker 1: that's really impressible, And I sorry, I got a little distracted.

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Speaker 1: This was a fun episode to work on, but from

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Speaker 1: trist and gave Mango and me thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, thanks again for listening. Part Time Genius is

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Speaker 1: Noel Brown made the theme song and does the MIXI

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Speaker 1: mixy sound thing. Jerry Rowland does the exact producer thing.

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