WEBVTT - The Journey to Sobriety

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika D.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory and the ship Boy my Son in general.

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<v Speaker 1>We are your host of TMI.

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<v Speaker 3>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.

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<v Speaker 1>New Name, New Energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So how you been this week?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a good week. It's been a good week.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, you know, it's always shit happening,

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<v Speaker 4>like we were talking, is it a good week?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a bad week? We live in America and we

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<v Speaker 1>and we kill people all around.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord, I had a really good week. Good. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I deal with a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of schools and children and I had a speaking engagement

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<v Speaker 3>at Garfield Academy in New Jersey and shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>Principal Lance. He was he's a dope principal. And I

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<v Speaker 3>sat with these young kids and the school is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the school, it's like, you know how they talk

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<v Speaker 3>about so what it is? They actually have a store

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<v Speaker 3>where this is a class. They have a barbershop that's

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<v Speaker 3>a class. They have a restaurant that's a class. They

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<v Speaker 3>have all these things where these kids get to take

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<v Speaker 3>those as classes.

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<v Speaker 1>And they work using their real experience exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And they work in those stories and they work in

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<v Speaker 3>them and it's dope. The whole environment is dope. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was a lot you know, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of at risk youth in there, some of them.

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<v Speaker 3>One of these kids probably was fourteen, told me how

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<v Speaker 3>you just got shot last year four times?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Another kid, yeah, four times. And another fifteen year old kid.

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<v Speaker 3>His father was you know, in the streets and got murdered.

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<v Speaker 3>His mother died from canta, so he was dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. It was just so many different little issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were really attentive, you know, and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I connected with them, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>my story is similar to a lot of theirs, and

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<v Speaker 3>just breaking down certain things, you know, talking to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end, they all came.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to me, they took pictures with me, they took

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<v Speaker 3>my phone and made me follow them on Instagram, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it was it was, it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>real like touching moment for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And the biggest thing was at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was about to leave, the principal called me

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<v Speaker 3>in this office and said, hey, two guys that have

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<v Speaker 3>been fighting all year, they probably had about four or

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<v Speaker 3>five fights, you know, they want to sit here and

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<v Speaker 3>resolve their issues while you're here, you know, based off

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<v Speaker 3>what you said and inspired them and motivated them to

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<v Speaker 3>want a squash to be And you know, they sat down,

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<v Speaker 3>like two young men probably I think they're like sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and one guy just admitted that he created the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he was misinformation, miscommunication.

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<v Speaker 3>He attacked the guy based off something and the god said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know what that was.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end, you know, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Both said they peace and they drafted up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and they gave each other a hug and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know, and it made me feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>is working. You know, a lot of times we have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of different situations in this work where we

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<v Speaker 3>I've lost kids that I was just talking to that

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<v Speaker 3>I had just mediated situations would and two or threes later,

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<v Speaker 3>two or threes two or three days later, they were

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<v Speaker 3>shot and killed or incarcerated. And you take it hard

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<v Speaker 3>because you're like, then, I wasn't able to do something

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<v Speaker 3>to help them, well, you know, to save them from

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<v Speaker 3>making those decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you actually get situations like.

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<v Speaker 3>This and you see, you know that in that minute,

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes that you had with those kids, it

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<v Speaker 3>transformed the thought process that's been going on for over

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<v Speaker 3>a year with them, like literally have four fights, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what I would say just one more

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<v Speaker 4>point on that is, even at sixteen years old, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're paying attention to what's happening in the world, you

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<v Speaker 4>realize that could it really could be do a die.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want to live, you even have to

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<v Speaker 4>have the emotional intelligence to stop the train before it wrecks.

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<v Speaker 4>Good that you're doing here, just keep pushing it because

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<v Speaker 4>you know it can be very discouraging sometimes to beat

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<v Speaker 4>you up. They tell you that this is a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>but you keep going and you know it brings me

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<v Speaker 4>to purpose. Well, that's absolutely absolutely when thinking about my

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<v Speaker 4>you know, my thought of the day today is around

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<v Speaker 4>this idea of.

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<v Speaker 1>Sobriety.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I am really I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 4>want to say proud of me because I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I really don't have all of the lexicon.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm literally developing it. Five years later, I'm writing my

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<v Speaker 4>first real speech about my process to get sober and

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<v Speaker 4>what I went through and how I initially got addicted

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<v Speaker 4>and what was at one point something that I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even know was a part of addiction. I had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea the first time I swallowed a pill that it

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<v Speaker 4>was a part of an addiction thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I certainly didn't understand the.

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<v Speaker 4>Political nature of addiction and that there's actual forces working

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<v Speaker 4>towards like I didn't think any of that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know there was a story and a situation out there

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<v Speaker 4>in the world that can explain why we're addicted to

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<v Speaker 4>these pills. So I didn't know. I didn't know so

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<v Speaker 4>many other people was on it. But now that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>more educated, and now that I'm more confident, right now

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<v Speaker 4>that I've been able to kick shame and the ass

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<v Speaker 4>about this particular issue and other things like you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, One thing i will say is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that I'm beginning to realize is certain

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<v Speaker 4>parts of my story I'm not able to tell because

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<v Speaker 4>other people's lives will be impacted. And I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>things from childhood all the way to now. You don't tell,

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<v Speaker 4>or you don't want to disrespect or embarrass other people,

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<v Speaker 4>even your family members and your friends. You want to

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<v Speaker 4>be mindful, and it's very important that when we start

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<v Speaker 4>talking about telling our stories, which people are entitled to

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<v Speaker 4>that that we're very careful to know that your time

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<v Speaker 4>is not everybody else's time. And because I have compassion

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<v Speaker 4>for that, I'm careful and mindful. But there's lots of

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<v Speaker 4>components of my life that there are people in the

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<v Speaker 4>world who believe because they know that I did something,

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<v Speaker 4>or I was a place, you know, a strip club,

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<v Speaker 4>slept with this guy, did this thing or whatever, they

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<v Speaker 4>believe that they're holding something that will just tear me

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<v Speaker 4>to shreds. And of course, when the truth about your

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<v Speaker 4>life and things come out, it can hurt you to

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<v Speaker 4>hear people's opinions and to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Opportunities, or to have people.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't trust you, or don't believe you or don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>in you, of course, but I've come to know that

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<v Speaker 4>ripping the band aid off of situations, problems, issues that

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<v Speaker 4>you've been through can oftentimes provide you with freedom, freedom

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<v Speaker 4>to walk forward and deal with whatever it is and

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<v Speaker 4>kick it up under your feet, right, And so I

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<v Speaker 4>have disassociated myself with the shame of my story around addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it anymore. I've thrown it out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's taking years to get there, but I think five

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<v Speaker 4>years of sobriety is a time when you could actually

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<v Speaker 4>tell the full story and not worry about who feel

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<v Speaker 4>who know, who was there, who saw you when.

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<v Speaker 1>You was nodding out, Who to help you get the drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't, who did this?

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<v Speaker 5>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter because now the work that's on me

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<v Speaker 4>is bigger than me. I have found that disassociating yourself

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<v Speaker 4>from all of this shame and guilt that holds us

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<v Speaker 4>down might just be the thing that we need to

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<v Speaker 4>get free and to have the space to do things

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<v Speaker 4>right going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like you have been in deep contemplation and you

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<v Speaker 3>have really come to terms with you. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, just being just understanding who you are, what

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<v Speaker 3>you are, and just freeing yourself from all the things

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<v Speaker 3>that bind you.

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<v Speaker 1>TMI today is.

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<v Speaker 4>We as women, and I saw Aman Decillo's talking on

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<v Speaker 4>her Small Doses podcast about being too much right. We

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<v Speaker 4>as women we do, you know, we talk when we

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<v Speaker 4>want to. I never forget getting a call from someone

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<v Speaker 4>very close to me who said, oh, you know, women

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<v Speaker 4>just all day y'all just don't ever stop telling and

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<v Speaker 4>doing and directing. But I feel like men don't, really,

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<v Speaker 4>they say, because I've been told by a number of men,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to say it the right way. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>just always have an attitude. You need to stop being

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<v Speaker 4>so this and that, and you know, and and and nagging, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to nurture the right way.

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<v Speaker 4>And you need to you know, have a certain type

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<v Speaker 4>of positivity and this and that, and you could get

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<v Speaker 4>a man to do anything just with your energy. I

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<v Speaker 4>have found you could say a nice you could say

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<v Speaker 4>it nasty, and the same result that most men do

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<v Speaker 4>not want to be corrected and or just suggested of

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<v Speaker 4>a new or better way to do things.

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<v Speaker 1>Period.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I really I think that delivery is everything right, because nasty,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not nasty or nice. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the time you say it, it's when you say it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's how you say it. All those things come if

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<v Speaker 3>you're correct.

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<v Speaker 2>If a man.

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<v Speaker 3>If a man is in the middle of a speech

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<v Speaker 3>and he's giving it, and he's talking around people who

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<v Speaker 3>are listening to him, and he's and he's saying something,

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<v Speaker 3>you stopping, I don't say it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say it that way. Say it this when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Smile and you stop and you say it, don't say

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<v Speaker 3>this when you smile, you think that you're saying it nice. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>What you just did is correct him in front of

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<v Speaker 3>people that think he knows what he's talking about. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what you did is you you just you lowered

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of his his his status in front

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<v Speaker 3>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't whisper behind his back and say, yo, if

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<v Speaker 3>you got a man and you with a man and

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<v Speaker 3>you saying and something, he did something on you, wether.

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<v Speaker 2>It's back, babe, you know what you should have did.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>But imagine if you got right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you gotta because it's like, but it's still a

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<v Speaker 3>man has an ego.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has an ego.

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<v Speaker 3>You dealing with a man with an ego, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't care about the man's ego, then fuck it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say what you want, but if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to get the best response from a man, then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to fill out how do I work with this individual?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>How do I talk to this man and get the

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<v Speaker 3>best thing from this man?

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<v Speaker 2>I know the things he likes.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially if this is a person that you would or

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<v Speaker 3>you're not with, or somebody that you come through with,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that's a friend of yours. You know the things

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<v Speaker 3>to say to trigger that person. You know the things

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<v Speaker 3>that he's gonna argue over. You know all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you take the if you made a decision

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't give a fuck, you just gonna call

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<v Speaker 3>him out, or you're gonna to tell him what's right,

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<v Speaker 3>however you want to say it, when you want to

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<v Speaker 3>say it, despite how he can he takes information, how

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<v Speaker 3>he best in takes information. It's really like I see

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<v Speaker 3>women do it all the time. Women have no problem

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<v Speaker 3>talking to their children, right, women with children and be like, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish they talked to me that way. There's just

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<v Speaker 3>there's no care about what you think. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to bruise the kids ego, you don't want to you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to stop him. You don't use certain language,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't use certain words when you speak to him,

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<v Speaker 3>all these things you're careful about. How you give this

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<v Speaker 3>information to your child because you want him to receive

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<v Speaker 3>it and you want him to feel empowered after he

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<v Speaker 3>gets the information. Why don't you think that you should

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<v Speaker 3>give your.

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<v Speaker 1>Man man like you child.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, but you got to reduce yourself down like you

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<v Speaker 4>talking to a kid in order to communicate with your

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<v Speaker 4>man or a man. And so, ladies, my point has

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<v Speaker 4>been proved a man himself, because.

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is because you, because you care about how

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<v Speaker 3>you speak to you, we just want you to speak

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<v Speaker 3>to us with care.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>What is wrong for a man to want.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want you to know.

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<v Speaker 3>That he feels that it's either his woman, his friend,

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<v Speaker 3>his sister, has anything to speak life into him instead

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<v Speaker 3>of pointing out the flaws of him, not if to

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<v Speaker 3>find the good things. Like a woman told me the

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<v Speaker 3>other day, you know what, somebody always points out the

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<v Speaker 3>bad stuff. It never says anything about the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how men feel.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just saying that a lot of I find

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<v Speaker 4>with a lot of men.

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<v Speaker 1>When you start trying to say, hey, listen, this needs.

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<v Speaker 4>To be or let's try to do this, or let

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<v Speaker 4>me tell you about this thing, it becomes a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. So anyway we.

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<v Speaker 4>Can bring the guests on and and uh see how

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<v Speaker 4>he can tell us that I'm doing too.

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<v Speaker 2>Much too Maybe maybe he won't.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a brother today who is well respected in

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<v Speaker 4>many places, but certainly in New York and around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for someone to bond with about my

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<v Speaker 1>sobriety five years.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm celebrating. I didn't even know if you were supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to say, you celebrating sobriety.

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<v Speaker 2>Should celebration claps?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we got to get in my claps or snaps?

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<v Speaker 2>No claps.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you. You snap sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>When it's good. Word yeah, so you could put snaps

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<v Speaker 4>in whatever. But you know, I contacted Erica Ford. I'm like, yo, E,

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<v Speaker 4>who do we have that works specifically with peepeople who

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<v Speaker 4>suffer with addiction. That helped to put people in the

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<v Speaker 4>right direction, helping the detox, helping to get themselves together.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was like, oh, I said for the podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>And she's like, oh, no, I know it's one brother.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have him on sent me the contact

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<v Speaker 4>and then I looked on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a minute. We've been in.

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<v Speaker 4>One another's community for a while, but of course I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know the full story. And so I'm happy that

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<v Speaker 4>you are joining us here today.

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<v Speaker 6>Brandon Chastang listen, man, I appreciate the love and honor.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>It's wonderful being on set with you guys. Man, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I call him b McFly McFly my god.

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<v Speaker 3>We've We've had many conversations, always in mind what he does,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's always been mutual respects. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>might get on live and debate, you know, over topics,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's always in love and respect. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>watched him for years in Philly just you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>always created like what I call infomercials, and he always

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<v Speaker 3>created really touching and passionate infomercials about what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on in our communities and what was going on in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets and just trying to give real life experiences

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<v Speaker 3>and messages. So you know, I've always been a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of what he does, and just like constantly seeing him evolve.

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<v Speaker 3>You are someone that I might and I appreciate what

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<v Speaker 3>you do and watching your evolution is motivational inspiration, know

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and I know what it means to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So continue to do what you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's friendly brotherly debate. I mean, like I feel like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we should they should see black men speak

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<v Speaker 6>and have emotional intelligence without you know, getting to a

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<v Speaker 6>point where now were having a yelling match on live.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we usually either agree to this, but we

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<v Speaker 3>might change each other's perspective, like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see it that way might be right, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what That's what love is, man, That's what growth.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it is. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing. That's a good thing. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been a few weeks that.

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<v Speaker 4>I am, you know in this place where I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>five years went by fast but slow, yes, and slow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you know now and I learned from you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been six.

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<v Speaker 5>Years for you success. January the twenty first.

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<v Speaker 6>I need all the months, and we got some months,

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<v Speaker 6>and we got some mens with months with it.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 1>March eighteenth was when I checked in to rehab. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember the day that I checked out.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I should look at that because that would

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<v Speaker 4>actually be the But it was the beginning of the journey.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>It was March eighteenth, and I never forget my homegirl,

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel Nordlinger dropped me off to a place in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>My story which I have explained to people many times,

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<v Speaker 4>but I swear every time every time I post about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been publicly talking about my sobriety.

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<v Speaker 1>Sent for two years, Okay, since two years in.

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<v Speaker 4>So two years after I went to rehab, I began

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there.

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<v Speaker 4>Under an alias, so people didn't know my name except

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who happened to ask me. He was like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of you know, he was just there. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they would play It was only one TV, two TVs

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<v Speaker 4>that worked and the one in the kitchen. People watch

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<v Speaker 4>music videos, sports shows, different things. And one day there

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<v Speaker 4>was music videos on that my son was not in.

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<v Speaker 4>But he asked me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, do you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's a guy, he's a great rap and

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<v Speaker 4>his name is my son. And he made it like

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't know if I knew him or not. But

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<v Speaker 4>I understood when he said that he knew me. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so I was under an alias, but he

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<v Speaker 4>already was on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my name was like Marcia.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And and in fact, I'll be honest with you. Once

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<v Speaker 4>he he gave on or let onto the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>he knew who I was or who I am, I

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<v Speaker 4>was ready to leave because he was a young white boy,

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<v Speaker 4>a young white man, excuse me, I was, and he

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<v Speaker 4>was younger than me, he might have been twenty. We

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<v Speaker 4>were in Ohio in a house in the woods, so

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't. I wasn't in a facility, in a building

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<v Speaker 4>with security and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were literally in a house. And the story of how.

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<v Speaker 4>I got there was Jason Williams, the NBA All Star.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew that he had started treatment programs. I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that he was specifically dealing with alcohol abuse. We know

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<v Speaker 4>his story and all the trial, trials and tribulations that

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<v Speaker 4>he faced.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called him one.

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<v Speaker 4>Day with a hypothetical question, like, YO, if you know

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that has an issue, they have an addiction, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what do we what should how?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you tell them to do?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's funny because when you've been through this and

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<v Speaker 4>I know that you can speak to the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>hypothetical questions you get that are really the person not

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<v Speaker 4>speaking hypothetically at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>All the time, every time I post, every time I

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it, I get people. And when I say people, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just everyday individuals of course that reach out. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about celebrities, people who are in high places

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<v Speaker 4>that you would never imagine their children themselves are dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with issues and they reach out and they ask me, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you have any resources?

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<v Speaker 4>And I always can pick up that this person, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really intimate what they're experiencing. So when I reached out

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<v Speaker 4>to Jason and I said, you know, do you have

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<v Speaker 4>any where could I go?

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<v Speaker 1>Or who can I talk to?

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<v Speaker 4>Or what would you suggest that a person do, he

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<v Speaker 4>just answered the question like, well, we have resources. You

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<v Speaker 4>want to put my people in touch with the person,

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<v Speaker 4>so we could download whatever whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, hey, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went away, and I would imagine that he

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<v Speaker 4>sat there and thought to himself, the person is her

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<v Speaker 4>and so she ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna put her people in touch with me.

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<v Speaker 4>So he wrote me back a few days later and said, hey, Tea,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know what your story is, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm just letting you know. It doesn't get brighter,

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<v Speaker 4>it gets darker. He said, it gets darker. The situation

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get better, it gets worse. And then he wrote

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<v Speaker 4>this line, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean because it gets man. I had a friend before.

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<v Speaker 4>That, I was out to dinner with a young This

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<v Speaker 4>is when I first started popping pills, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping and feeling better and numbing the world out, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was out with my girlfriends at dinner and I

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<v Speaker 4>told him like yeah, man, wow, like you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>at the time, you know, it was like cool, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like popping some zannies and some perks.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm talking about it with these girls and these

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<v Speaker 4>are my girls that we did.

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<v Speaker 1>A little this and a little act together in so

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<v Speaker 1>I can bring it up.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of them said at the table, Hey, so

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<v Speaker 4>letting you know this thing is a dark hole.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be mindful. It's a dark hole.

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<v Speaker 4>So when he said that to me, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>your reaction. When he said that to me, he said,

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<v Speaker 4>and you want to get control over the situation before

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<v Speaker 4>it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Control of you, in the form of you in.

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<v Speaker 4>A car accident, they find the pills in your car,

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<v Speaker 4>you and you know, you go through the airport, you

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<v Speaker 4>get arrested for smuggling drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you wanna get control.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the situation before it takes control over you. And

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<v Speaker 4>I sat there with that for a while, but sure

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<v Speaker 4>enough I wrote back to him and.

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<v Speaker 1>Said I have a problem and I need help. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>How long were you How long were you on?

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<v Speaker 4>So you you know, I know that I know that

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<v Speaker 4>In two thousand and seventeen and eighteen was the worst

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<v Speaker 4>period of it. Like that's when I was really on,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, two thousand and two thousand and nineteen is

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<v Speaker 4>when I went in. So twenty seventeen and eighteen was

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<v Speaker 4>the worst time. But I can't trace back because I

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<v Speaker 4>think even with the XANX and other things like especially Xanax,

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<v Speaker 4>which which xan X became a backstory, like that became

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<v Speaker 4>because once you started taking perposes, the xan X is

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just and I'm gonna be honest, and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>say this to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not ashamed about it at all at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Point in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm ready to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever you asked me, I can tell you specifically, so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when I think back to win, I believe

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere in two thousand and sixteen, maybe twenty sixteen, is

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<v Speaker 4>when I first popped the zanny here and there. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was sort of doing those things just to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>taking a zan as a part of my regular party life,

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<v Speaker 4>like regular life, regular life. But in terms of the

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<v Speaker 4>abuse and the addiction it because I didn't need the

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<v Speaker 4>Xanax all the time, that wasn't a thing. But in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty and seventeen and eighteen when I started going through

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<v Speaker 4>some like real life crises, especially political, And that's why

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<v Speaker 4>they tell you if.

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<v Speaker 1>You live for the applause, you will die with the booze.

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<v Speaker 4>And once I started getting booed and people were talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been in this position before, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I could talk about this all day, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in those two years, I was in a dark, dark place.

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<v Speaker 4>And it took me all of twenty and eighteen, texting

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<v Speaker 4>back and forth with Jason, having conversations with this one

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<v Speaker 4>and doing this and that to actually go. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>a process that requires patients.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I graduated from Lincoln University two thousand and four, and

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<v Speaker 6>I got shot immediately after I graduated because I knew

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<v Speaker 6>going to college is like, no disrespect to my school,

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 6>no disrespect to HBCUs. But at the time, when I

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 6>graduated from high school in two thousand, I thought I

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 6>was going to the thirteenth grade.

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 5>People was getting robbed, shot, shot at fights. I fought

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<v Speaker 5>a lot in college college at that time.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure I'm not saying it's different now, but I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sure it's a lot. Yeah, it's way better but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>coming from that era, and you know, you got people

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<v Speaker 6>from New York, Philly, d C.

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<v Speaker 5>Jersey.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's trying to you know, the Internet wasn't popping, so

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 6>it's like you Basically, what I'm trying to say.

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 5>Is you still in the mix.

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 6>And when I graduated with a criminal justice degree, I

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<v Speaker 6>knew I was going to graduate. It was just too easy, man,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 6>and I got shot. I graduated May second, two thousand

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 6>and four, got shot July fourth, two thousand and four.

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 6>And that's when doctors, I say, are black people worse

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 6>enemy to a certain degree, because this man said take

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 6>as prescribed every six hours or as needed. Never gave

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 6>me the logistics on what did it do to you?

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 6>It's gonna you're gonna crave for it. Possibly you're gonna

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 6>want it bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I took that pill, and I said, I wasn't a

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 6>weed smoker, but I smoke.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 5>Here in there.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 6>I drank here and there, but I wasn't addicted to that.

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 6>I even took ecstasy pills, but I didn't like the

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 6>after effects of it. When I first took a percocet,

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<v Speaker 6>I said, Wow, why y'all don't sell these over the

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<v Speaker 6>count I never even heard of these. And then I'm

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 6>gonna say, from two thousand and four to twenty and eighteen,

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 6>I was the worst person ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was scyn I was a junkie, I was a.

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<v Speaker 6>Criminal and four from two thousand and four to eighteen wow,

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 6>fourteen years of my life, I was a junkie.

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<v Speaker 5>I was. I was. I was because it go from

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<v Speaker 5>it feels so good.

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 6>I got a bullet in my knee and I'm, you know,

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 6>healing up right, so now I'm walking. I'm like when

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 6>I take the pill, I'm walking on this and like, yo,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 6>this pill is that powerful.

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 5>And it made me.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel extra extra, extra confident, like I'm not afraid. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not I'm not afraid to be something. I'm not afraid

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<v Speaker 6>to be even more of me. And then it goes

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 6>from that to I went from taking pills for the

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 6>physical pain to taking pills for the mental pain. My

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 6>father used to sell me pills, and I used to

0:26:55.800 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 6>ask myself, I'm spending I'm giving my father more money

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 6>for pills than.

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 5>He ever gave me in my life. He knew that

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<v Speaker 5>this was it controlled me.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 6>I did everything under the sun for my pills, except

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 6>doing anything with another man, or put somebody in jail,

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 6>anything else you could think of, which I'm not gonna

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 6>say I'm proud of or whatever, but I probably did it.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>It was the serious because you know this, because we've

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>discussed it.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 5>I mean it.

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Finally, my son and a few other people were really

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>aware of how bad the situation.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Yea controlled you that I was already, but like they

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 4>were aware of the depth of it, and when I

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 4>was trying to explain it, it was like they felt

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 4>sorry for me because I'm like, I cannot period just

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 4>stopped taking pis.

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 5>No way because because of the withdrawal.

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 6>You ever had the flu, you ever catch covid or

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 6>it's ten times worse than those two combine. My eyes

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 6>are hurting, my phlangies, my fingertips are hurting, I'm sweating,

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm cold sweats, and it's like, I don't It got to.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 5>The point where I say, I would rather die.

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 6>Because I because I'm I'm I'm facing humiliation now and

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to face that.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to.

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Let the world know that I need help. So it's

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 6>like my my ego, my pride. It's like, yo, bro,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 6>you are junkie out here, so what I still don't

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 6>want to let people know I need help.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 5>So every single day I yearned for these pills.

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 6>I did, boy like like like, and that's why. And

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 6>when I hit, when I went to rehab, like man,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 6>when I think about the things that I did to

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 6>get these pills, and I hear these stories of men

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 6>giving their bodies to other men because the pills controlled them,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 6>and I'm looking back, like, boy, you better not laugh,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 6>because you probably could have been.

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 4>The next one time, one more thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Like like, I'm two seconds away from doing something to

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<v Speaker 6>the extreme.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And then and then they were worried.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 4>He was specifically worried because it was only a few

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 4>people that knew but worried about where I was getting

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 4>this thing.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 5>And that's a.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Whole other side of the of the like for me

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>to meek a mallory to be out here, which they

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 4>were already after me, right, already under scrutiny, and here

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm going trying to hustle around and have a conversation

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 4>with this friend and do this that in.

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 6>The third to get them to get and you're gonna

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 6>go to the extreme, right, You're gonna go to defense.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 6>I would walk I would walk in the rain. I mean,

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 6>I didn't take sit See, I was so in debt

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 6>with it. Were was just to the point I just

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 6>wanted to die.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 6>I used to ask God, Yo, listen, don't wake me

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 6>up the next day because I'm no good. Please let

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 6>me die a high depth, please, man, a high depth,

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 6>like I'm no good to my kids, I'm no good

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 6>to me because I'm my My life is just. You

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 6>went from being the man and getting all the women

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 6>in college and this and that, so now you're begging, yo,

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 6>bro let me borrow twenty dollars. Man, I got you.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 6>You'll be me flying. You don't never be asking to

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 6>borrow twenty dollars.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 5>Bro. I really need it.

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 6>And I thought I was cool. And when I look back,

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, Yo, I'm no good than me. I'm no

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 6>good to my children, I'm no good to the community.

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 5>I am.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 6>I am scum. God, don't wake me up please. And

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 6>every time I used to wake up, I used to

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 6>be like, yo, I'm up, yo. And now I gotta go.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 6>You making me suffer going through this pain over and

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 6>over and over again. I gotta go through withdraw, I

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 6>gotta go through the constipation. I gotta go through every

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 6>single thing? Why are you putting me through this pain?

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 6>Your stepfather died, your mother died, your father's selling you

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 6>pills every Why am I going through this?

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Damn?

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 5>So?

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>How many?

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>How many times did you actually try to stop?

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Bro? I tried to stop, maybe.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Before you actually succeed.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 6>I tried to stop when I went to I went

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 6>to yell, and I stopped because I'm like, I'm not

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 6>going in there on the week shit. And my mind

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 6>is like something went through my body, like you're gonna

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 6>go through something, but you're still gonna You're gonna prepare

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 6>yourself for jail. Right, So I'm gonna say I probably

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 6>stopped like three times. But then once my mother passed away.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 6>She had me at fifteen, so she passed away at

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 6>forty eight years old.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 5>She was young. I'm a couple seconds away from being

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 5>forty eight forty two.

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 6>Once she passed away, and once I seemed like, yo, listen,

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 6>my life is going down. She passed away from a

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 6>drug overdose. My father is selling me drugs and he

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 6>was a drug addict. I'm just surrounded with no hope,

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 6>and I was the only hope.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh beat me fly. He went to school and he

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 5>did see he did.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 6>I'm the only hope man bro. Shout out to my

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 6>kids mother, my core parent. She kept fighting for me.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 6>She kept fighting with me. She was enabling me to

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 6>but she also kept fighting.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>All your help enable you the.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't want to see you, they don't want

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 5>to I used to lie to her, Yo, Bro, I

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 5>used to lie to her.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 6>And YO, listen, they got me kidnapped. They say they

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 6>need a thousand dollars. I used to make up like

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 6>all type of anything to get this drug and choice,

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 6>and back then it was it wasn't no cash at

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 6>I got to.

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 5>Go to Western Union, Western Union and my co parent.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 6>Man, we not together whatever, But I love her the

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 6>life like I I like, I like. She just kept

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 6>and she put me in rehabiting arms acres. Shout out

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 6>the arms acres upstate, New York.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>How many do you have? Four children?

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 6>My son he's twenty three, my daughter nineteen, My son

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 6>is fourteen, and my daughter's nine.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 2>So I have that process like them seeing you go

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>through that.

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 6>I missed my daughter, So shout out to my daughter

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 6>and my oldest daughter, Tam. It was ten years in

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 6>my life that I missed with her. The drug addiction,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 6>and it's like we never mister b to this day,

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 6>like like she honored me, like she honors me. But

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 6>my oldest son, he really didn't feel it too much.

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 6>But my two youngest ones dead, they all felt it.

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 6>But it's like it's it's just weird how it's levels.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 6>It's different levels for all of them. My oldest daughter

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 6>felt it the most. And I used to beat myself up, man,

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 6>because it's like drug.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Addiction took over me. It wasn't me.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 6>I got shot and I just it just said, yo,

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 6>I got you.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 5>You are about to be a menace.

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>You ever seen the movie Pink, I mean the series Painkillers?

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 5>I did. Everybody keep telling you the way.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>You describing it is, it sounds like the same.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see it yet. Man, you'll listen to me.

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I've never been on drugs. I never, you know, I have.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Both of my parents were addicted to drugs.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>My father over when I was twelve years old.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>My mother, you know, a boy, the grace of God,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>she cleans herself up after twenty and she passed away

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 3>from cancer, but she was drug free.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>But this when I watched this.

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Series, right, it was just a regular guy it's one

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 3>guy in particular. He was working, you know, he worked

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>in He was a mechanic, and he hurt itself and

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 3>he was a good family guy.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And he just he wasn't a mechanic.

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He owned.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 3>He was like he was a good family guy and

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>he started taking it and like you said, he felt better,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Like damn, it's like a super dry.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>He was working good.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 1>His wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had he had injured his spine, like.

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>It was terrible, and as it goes through, at the

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 3>end of it, he actually kills it.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>He overdoses.

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Like at the end of the thing, he did everything

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 3>like he went through the dw he cleaned hisself up

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 3>and then he just it was like go back.

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Could not like and it was like, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm listening to you and I'm looking at this,

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, damn that that has to be. It has

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>to be the hardest thing in the world. And I

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 3>can't even imagine something controlling me to that degree.

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 4>I just came and the argument is because we've had

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 4>the argument again, they didn't know how significant it is.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 4>It was, so it's kind of like, all right, you

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 4>got some shit going on, but you just it's like

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 4>anything else to stop, and I'm like yeah, and then

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 4>and then, and I would get into arguments with the

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 4>small group of people that I was close to that

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 4>knew about it, because their position was that Okay, you know,

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I get it, but it's in your mind, like you

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 4>just weakened the mind. I'm like, nah, this is something

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 4>they they had. They literally designed a drug and that's

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 4>what painkillers and Painkillers is on Netflix. Dope Sick is

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 4>the same story. It shows you that they designed this

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 4>to make people hyper addicted.

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 1>That's what they wanted, Like that was the goal.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing that you how you control people is you

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 6>feed the doper mein the doper meine must get fed man,

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 6>and for weak people like myself. At one point in time,

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 6>I needed it. I needed it so bad that I

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 6>would have praised those guys man, like thank you, you

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 6>brought something to my life that's like I can really

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 6>like love and cherish even though it's tearing me down right,

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 6>get to the point where that ship just become part

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 6>of my part of me.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>You can say shit on this show, we say shit.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 6>It just gets to the point where you get so

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 6>used to it that it's like what do you go?

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Where do you go next. So for me, I started

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 6>mixing percocests with the zanies. Right now, you're mixing it up, man.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 6>I was taken at the time. Man, I was taking

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 6>probably like fifteen thirties a day if I can afford it,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 6>in like twelve or fifteen zannies because I didn't want

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 6>I told you, I started taking these drugs for the

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 6>mental pain.

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 5>Now I ain't got shit. I ain't shit.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 6>My life is done, my mother is dead, everybody is going.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Man, it's over.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm named. I am in the process of naming.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm up to like eleven. I was taking

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 4>twenty pills a day, thirties. I didn't go that far

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 4>because I was afraid it would kill me. But then

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 4>sometimes I wanted to just like you slip out like

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 4>it's cool. But fifteens and I was taking I'm now

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 4>naming each one of them because I realized that each

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 4>one of those pills that I swallowed throughout the day

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 4>had a meaning in my life. Imposta syndrome, past sexual assault,

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, feeling unworre just all those things. It felt

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>like it was numbing. And you know, we talked about

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 4>this earlier. But I want to bring introduce it into

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 4>this conversation that the nation of Islam has a saying

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:21.720
<v Speaker 4>that perhaps the drug abuser is actually more in tune

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 4>what's happening in the world than those of us who

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>are not drug abuses, because every time they wake up

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 4>from their dopeness, so being doped up, they see the

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 4>world and say, oh no, no, no, dope me up again.

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't hand.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, I mean with even like you brought a

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 6>valid point, I mean, I started taking percoses for the neglect.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 5>I ain't believe in God.

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 6>At one point it's like God, why you got me

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 6>here at a house where I'm being abused. I'm being

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 6>physically abused over and over and over again, and I

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 6>have two teenage parents and it's just like they're on drugs,

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Like these are the things that's going on in my head,

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 6>and it's like, okay, now I'm playing back to childhood years,

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 6>from childhood years to you know, growing up young adults, adults,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 6>and that was just like yo, I'm seeing the world

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 6>and it's like it's no good for me.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 5>This is why I want to die. I gotta die.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 6>And that was the reason why I went to rehab

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 6>because I kept waking up, and I'm like, oh no,

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 6>maybe maybe I'm a bigger person because you wasn't dying.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't dying, you know what I'm saying.

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You kept saying that, and God was like, no, no,

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you're not going.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 6>To right and you're not doing it and then going

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 6>to rehab man January to twenty first, twenty eighteen.

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 5>That was the start of the beginning.

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It's the start of the beginning.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just the start of the beginning.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>What was that process?

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Like, I wasn't scared anymore. I was more so nervous

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 5>than so.

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to ask one more question before you say that,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>because they always say, like I remember when my mother

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 3>went to rehab, like when she actually you know, stop

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 3>using drugs like she had Oh, we had sent her away,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 3>she came back this and that, and was it was

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 3>it a feeling that you just was tired that you

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 3>made a decision like I'm tired of this.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm tired because like I said, I kept waking up.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 6>I wanted the overdose. I didn't had enough heart to

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, jump off a roof or put a gun

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 6>to my head or anything like that. Hang myself. So listen,

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 6>let me take these pills. Because I knew I took

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 6>fake pills. I knew it had dope in it, cracking it,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 6>I knew it was all types of stuff in it.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 5>The goal was to take percoses.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 6>But I'm sure I took millions of fake pills. Right,

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, damn, I'm tired it for me, it's over right.

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 6>And once I went in there, now I'm nervous because

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what to expect. And shout out to

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 6>the guy. I hope he's I hope he's strong. We

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 6>shared the room doing during our first.

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Week of You never forget those people.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 5>You never forget those people.

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 6>And I'm in a room with a I'm in a

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 6>room with a guy that like smelled like he just

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 6>came from the sewer, and I say, yeah, I need this.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 6>He smelled bad. And I know, yeah, you ain't far removed,

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 6>you know. And then after my first week of detox,

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 6>after the first week, and then I finally moved over

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 6>to rehab, and now you got Now it's like you

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 6>got guys in there that's mandated. You got guys in

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 6>there that's just looking for a home. You got guys

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 6>in there. That's just like it was very few of

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 6>us that really wanted to see that change, and that

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 6>I guess the last three weeks it was a beautiful

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 6>thing because I didn't want to leave.

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I wanted to leave, but I.

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 6>Was so far away that once you leave, it's no

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 6>coming back, and it's no busses that you could catch.

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 6>It's no yo, let me hitch hike for a cat,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 6>It's none of that. You're done up. It's over. So

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 6>I said my last two weeks, man, I'm just gonna

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 6>create skits. I already had it in my mind what

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 6>it is that I wanted to do. I'm going to

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 6>tap into my diamond that I was afraid of. And

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 6>once I tapped into my diamond, once I once I

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 6>got out of rehab my first week, it was up.

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 6>I jumped on the internet and it was up from there.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Talk about your diamond, Like, so what is that now?

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>What's the why did you identify?

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 5>Because I knew you already know who you are?

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 6>Like jay Z said, you are who you are before

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 6>you got here, whether you got the richest, whether you

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 6>got whatever it is that you.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 5>Got, you know who you are before you got here.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 6>So I knew what I wanted to do, but I

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 6>always I was afraid of success, right. And it's a

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 6>lot of even in this is when we talk about

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 6>the young kids, right, a lot of y'all know what

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 6>y'all want to do, you're just afraid of it. So

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 6>I knew that I was ready for the world. I

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 6>just was afraid to tap into it. And I tell people,

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 6>the richest place in the world is the grave, man

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 6>because they die with trollion dollar I did, you know

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know what, I'm

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 6>gonna let the world norm gonna be transparent. I'm gonna

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 6>let the world know that I was a bad parent.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna let the world know that I was addicted

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 6>to drugs. I'm gonna let the world know that I

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 6>used to do things because I wanted to be like

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 6>that guy.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 5>I played both sides of the fence.

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be transparent on here because it's no secrets.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 6>I know it's somebody's suffering, just like me. Now, everybody's dead,

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 6>your grandmother, your grandfather, your mother, everybody's dead. Now when

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 6>now you got to be the leader? You know what

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, and I know with somebody out there that's like, yo,

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 6>thank you. So that's what I did.

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, Yo, I'm gonna create skits. I love acting.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna create skits because me talking all day, I'm

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 6>probably not gonna get people to gravitate. But let me

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 6>create these skits, get them to gravitate, and now let

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 6>me drop the let me drop the message.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 5>And that's what I did.

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>So working with people, if someone you know, they approach

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 4>you and they have an issue, they have a problem,

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 4>what do you do. What's the process of helping them

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 4>get sober? Because we don't use the word clean.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 6>Right, right, So I tell people this, right, are you

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 6>willing to get sober?

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Like you were willing to use?

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That's deep?

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 6>Got to reverse it because I was willing to I

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 6>was willing to walk miles for a pill one one

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 6>that wouldn't do nothing for me.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>One.

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, do you have a support system? Yeah, I

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 6>have an iron or a mother or a gram All right,

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 6>what if they don't have you for the rest of

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 6>your life?

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:25.240
<v Speaker 5>What if you die?

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 6>Now that's gonna be selfish to them. So how bad

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 6>do you want to get sober? And once you tell

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 6>me you want to get sober. I asked, yo, do

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 6>you have insurance? Because if you got insurance, man, we

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 6>can go wherever city we in, we can go to

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 6>a rehabilitation program in that city and we go from there.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 6>I put that on the internet. I've took so many

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 6>people to rehab Like I'm with you. I don't get

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 6>paid for it. I don't have a nonprofit for it.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 6>Because this is the thing here right when you stop

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 6>doing what works, you're going to nine.

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 5>Times out of ten start using again. M hmmm. So

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 5>what works is for me is yo, you gotta help somebody.

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 6>When you sit back and stop helping people, Oh, you

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 6>think you got it under control.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 5>I am not far removed from being.

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 6>A junkie again, absolutely, So I'm going to continue to

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 6>help somebody to remind me that you're not far removed.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 5>I tell a.

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 6>Person, your thirty days is better than my six years.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 6>You did thirty days of being sobered?

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yo, whoa two? Three, four days?

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Is me?

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>When you go through.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:36.439
<v Speaker 4>You talk from using all the time and needing it

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 4>each day, you're just like, yo, this is crazy.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 2>How did you do two days?

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>One thing?

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 4>The people who run the program, they knew they knew

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 4>who I was, they knew I was on the alias,

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 4>they knew me that they gave me my dignity as

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 4>much as they possibly could. I took paper towels and

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 4>double layered them all over my bathroom.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I put.

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 4>Newspaper and then paper towels all over my bathroom floor.

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 4>And I had my slippers. And that's how I was living.

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I was so depressed. And I did not take a

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 4>shower for the entire time that I was on the

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 4>other side of the house because I was not about

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 4>to get in.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>That shower with that stuff and that thing.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't have no cleaning products because you can

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 4>sniff cleaning products and they don't give you that.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And I just was going through so much.

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 4>But I thank God for every second because during that

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.959
<v Speaker 4>time that I was in rehab, that was the most

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 4>that I could hear the I could crystal clear here

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 4>the Lord's direction for me and the and the and

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I was. I kept apologizing to myself, I was apologizing

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.439
<v Speaker 4>to God. I was apologizing to my son, and all

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 4>throughout that I could hear him saying rest, child, like

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 4>just lay down, just rest, rest your spirit, rest all

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 4>these things because you come out of this, right, You're

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 4>going to be more powerful than you can even imagine.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 4>And I was going to keep the story to myself,

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 4>but then I realized it wasn't my story to hold.

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>It was God's story. It was God.

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 5>So how dare you.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 4>When somebody There are people in my comments section when

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 4>I posted about five years and they're saying things about

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 4>what they went through. And a lot of women, a

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of women, because sleeping is real hard for us

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 4>when we got to think, you know, and I think

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 4>brothers have the same thing, but especially with us as women,

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 4>when we're trying to.

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Figure everything out, everything out, care for the family, the man,

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>keep the man.

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 4>Look fine, go to work, do this that everything that

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to do, sleeping is very difficult for us.

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 4>And so there are several people, particularly women, who are

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 4>telling their stories. And one woman said, I have never

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 4>talked to one person about this, and I find myself

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 4>on your page in the comments section, telling this story

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 4>right here, and I never talked to anybody else.

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's because the power of your story, right, can heal.

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 5>You?

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Know?

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to kill you. I want to heal

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 5>with you. I don't want to kill you.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 6>I want to heal with you, and see, the only

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 6>way we can heal is if somebody be transparent. That's it, right,

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.919
<v Speaker 6>And I ask people right when I talk to the kids,

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 6>I said, if you discovered a diamond that was worth

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 6>billions of dollars trillions of dollars, would you keep it

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 6>to yourself? Would you tell someone? Or you undecided? And

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 6>most of them say, I keep it to myself or

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm undecided. The diamond is you. You think the person

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 6>that's like full of talent, full of a gift, Why

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 6>would you hide that gift when you know you can

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 6>spread it to the world.

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:56.760
<v Speaker 5>Man, our story.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 6>This is one of these stories where it's like it's

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 6>a secret society, man, because if you don't know what

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 6>this pain feel like, how we broke through the pain,

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 6>you would never understand. You would never ever understand. I

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 6>tell people those who were addicted to drugs and got

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 6>about of it, man, they probably the strongest people in

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 6>the world, because it's like this is a drug that's

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 6>like controlling this.

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.359
<v Speaker 5>Drugs control everything.

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 6>Like listen, if you addicted the drugs, man, don't be

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 6>ashamed of your story. Be ashamed if there's no ending

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 6>to your story.

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 2>So what is next?

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 1>What is it the fact that you don't get funding?

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you should be.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 6>I mean I think people are afraid of listen, if

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 6>you don't want to help fund, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.479
<v Speaker 6>I'm only here to help them. I'm here to tell

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:47.240
<v Speaker 6>my story and to help those who are addicted. Because

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 6>people think that drug addiction is cool. They or they're

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:52.959
<v Speaker 6>in the now. They don't believe that.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 5>They are on.

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 6>Like, I'm not sleeping on a park bench. I'm not

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 6>selling my body. I'm not committed, but I'm not.

0:49:59.160 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Just getting little.

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 5>I just get a little.

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 6>But this is why when I on my platform, I

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 6>congratulate those who are celebrities because it's like, yo, it

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 6>takes you gotta dumb it down, man, order for people

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 6>to say, oh, no, you're rich, you got this, you

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 6>got that. No, that don't mean anything. Drug addiction. Don't

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 6>care about your age, your color, where you're from. This

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 6>is why I love all people, because they don't care

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 6>about who you are. They just want to get you

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 6>to take. And I'm wondering, like yo, why people don't

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 6>want to rock with me? And I feel like they

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 6>just don't trust me when it comes down to drug addiction.

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 6>But then they're gonna let these big companies and corporations

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 6>kind of like say, oh, you're fitting off, leave that alone.

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 6>And this is no leave all of them alone. So

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna keep

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 6>talking about it. You know, hopefully don't nobody drug in the.

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:46.439
<v Speaker 5>Hip hop world.

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 6>That's another crazy thing because and I'm I'm I don't

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 6>want to be long winded. So many of us are

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 6>dying from drug addiction and it's.

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Like living with drugs.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:58.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I'm talking about it.

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And you see it. You can see that is taking

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 2>them over.

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 3>And because they have status and they have money, nobody

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 3>is actually trying to do anything to help them.

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 6>I would go to Philadelphia has this place called Kissington

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 6>and Alleghany. It's the worst place in the country, and

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 6>I will I'll put my life on that. That's how

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 6>That's how much I know for a fact, you call them,

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 6>that's pretty much almost done.

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>La.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 6>It's nothing worse than Kensington and Alleghany. There's zombies. The

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.240
<v Speaker 6>cops sit back and be like, as long as nobody

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 6>hurt themselves, like long as nobody die or nobody's fighting,

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 6>they got it. They can shoot up they were shooting,

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.879
<v Speaker 6>they would yo, they're shooting up right, and like on

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 6>the block, every it's like a whole community, thousands and

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 6>thousands of people.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 4>We have to do a part too of this conversation

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 4>because it is the question why isn't why is there

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 4>not the support for us?

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Because it's not a support for the thing is right?

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I was listening to so I just listened to interviews

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 3>and I listened to narratives, and it's like people have

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 3>made they've made this.

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 2>What is the word I want to use?

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 3>They've come to a conclusion that everything that black people

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 3>do for to help black people in some type of

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 3>scam or that we're trying to get over right like

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 3>our own people. That people say, oh yeah, I don't

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 3>want black lives matter the end, because the somebody said

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.240
<v Speaker 3>the n w a CP doesn't want to end racism

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>because then they can't be funded.

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Right then you if.

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 3>And that makes sense in an interview, but that's like

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 3>saying the doctors don't want people not to get healed

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.839
<v Speaker 3>because if they stop dying, then nobody has a job.

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 3>The police don't want crime to stop because if they

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 3>stop coming.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Crime, there's no industry.

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 3>In the world that that is not gonna fund unless

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:57.800
<v Speaker 3>the problem exists.

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, So why why do we.

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Point out only our people and the ship that benefits

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 3>us and the people that work toward the benefit and

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the protection of our people.

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 3>And we do that, and we and we think it's

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>something we think it's something wrong that you decide, you

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 3>know what.

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a person that's formally addicted.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I want to do something better and I need to

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 3>be funded because I can't survive, right, And I can't.

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't do any work if I can't survive, right,

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 3>So we we always looking for the bat if you

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 3>if you put up to raise money so you can

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 3>start your own I'm saying to skip. But this is

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 3>what our people, this is what our people have been taught.

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 3>It's the worst thing. And it's like, damn you. You

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:37.839
<v Speaker 3>you try to get into some shit that to can

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 3>help your people. You come back with knowledge you have,

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, unwilling wisdom about some ship that you actually

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 3>went through, and you know that you can be a resource.

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 3>You know that you can help people. But our own

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.279
<v Speaker 3>people are are the biggest adversaries to that.

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:59.240
<v Speaker 6>Post traumatic slave disorder PTSD post traumatic slave disorder the mind.

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 6>When you walking around with a constipated mind, you just

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 6>got garbage beside your brain. I don't expect you to

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.360
<v Speaker 6>be receptive to information if you have if you have

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:11.440
<v Speaker 6>a constipated mentality, if you have a poor minded mentality,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.799
<v Speaker 6>I don't expect that people still told on Harriet tell

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 6>me and that was a go and it's still going on.

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:22.439
<v Speaker 5>To this day.

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, brother, we just I mean really, appreciation is too

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.439
<v Speaker 4>small of a word, right, Like I wish I had,

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and I think from my perspective, I appreciate it even

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 4>more because I know that I could just hear in

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 4>you my same story, like exactly what I went through,

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 4>the feelings, the whole thing, and it's so deep and

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 4>it is a secret society, but we're making it not

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 4>as not so secret by having platforms with people have

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 4>been writing to me.

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I would never have thought.

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, I want to say that the

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 4>support and the amount of folk who've reached out to

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 4>me from the top, who you could think of, people

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 4>in elected office, celebrities down to not even down to

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 4>two people who just regular folks has been overwhelming. Text messages, calls, prayers,

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 4>love and support and even those who make this particular statement,

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 4>I know that it's not. All of them are not

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.280
<v Speaker 4>coming from a bad place, but they say I would

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 4>never have thought. And I want you at people who

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 4>are out there, of people who are listening, to look

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 4>at yourself, look at your brother, your sister, your mother,

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 4>your father, your cousins, and the pastor, the pastor, the teacher,

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 4>the lawyer, the lady who's the good lady from the community,

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 4>and know that yes, you, yesterday, Yes it could also

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 4>be you.

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So when you say I would never have thought, think.

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Think, think, think, because it can and it is happening

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:00.839
<v Speaker 4>to so many people. And I just you know, I

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 4>think this is one of those things. Be McFly.

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I prefer to go with Brandon, but.

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 4>That you know, I pray, I pray that we received

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 4>the resources that we deserve to do the work. This

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 4>is important work, but I also want to say that

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.280
<v Speaker 4>this is not something we need to Yes, the government

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 4>should be funding us because they take our money, so

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 4>they should give it back. But our own people have

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 4>enough money to fund this type of work that we

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 4>could do it on our own. And I think that's

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:34.720
<v Speaker 4>that's the conversation and what it's got to be about.

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And yes, it takes what does it take?

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Money, money, and to do anything.

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 1>You got to come back if you do more than

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just this.

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, talk about you know, your work

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 4>in totality.

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 5>Let's get it. Man, appreciate.

0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 3>Always shout out to be McFly Man to my brother Man.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 3>We met on the internet, but we've connected a few times,

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 3>and I never knew all of that, right, I just

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.120
<v Speaker 3>knew that he was somebody that I seen on the Internet,

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 3>and I loved his message. I loved the passion that

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 3>he spoke with, and his skits were really you know,

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 3>really powerful, and just hearing that and just just listen

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 3>pretty much, I just let you, y'all into you actually

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.439
<v Speaker 3>was getting interviewed. This is even though you were interviewing well,

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>you actually was interviewing yourself too, because for real, it

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 3>was therapeutic watching you and just seeing how passionate you

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 3>was and you were telling your story. So I was

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, you know, I got me one or two questions, but.

0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>For the moment that dominated the contents and it.

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Was it was something that you needed to die because

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 3>it's still therapeutic, like right every time, five years this

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 3>is five years of your sobriety, and you know you

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 3>feel empowered, but you also know how you didn't feel.

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Strong at the time.

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, you talk about your deepest, darkest moments and

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 3>how you felt like you were helpless, and like I

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 3>remember you sitting there telling me I cannot stop taking pills,

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 3>like literally looking at my face, and I'm like, what

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 3>do you mean you can't?

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't understand.

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 3>It, And more and more that you said it, and

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 3>the more I hear these testimonies, I realized, Dan, this

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 3>is this is something that I can't possibly even understand.

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 3>But just to see that you you found the way

0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. And the thing is, the

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 3>reality is I don't know if I would have been

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 3>able to do that. I don't know, right because I've

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 3>never been through it. So you don't know if you

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 3>can overcome something until you've actually done it, and you've

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 3>actually went through something that a lot of.

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 2>People don't come back from. And you know, just hearing

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>you speak about it and if.

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 4>So good that I can say emphatically like once I

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 4>walked into that facility to that house on March eighteen,

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I never ever took another pill again, Like who like

0:58:56.680 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 4>you don't even understand what that means. Like you said,

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 4>you've never been through it. So to be able to

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 4>say that and to know it, because before that I

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 4>would say, oh, yeah, no, I'm detoxing. But then I

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 4>knew I would sneak a pill and do this and

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 4>do that, because that's just the process. But to know

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 4>that what he said, when b McFly said that, you

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 4>know your thirty days are better than my six years,

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 4>I know what he's talking about because those thirty.

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Days, that's the hardest time.

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 4>That's the hardest part is being able to keep going

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 4>for thirty days. It's by the time you get to

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 4>six years, it's just coming five years later.

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a thing of the past.

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 4>It's you know, it's something that you know, you think

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 4>about you It's like, oh wow, right, that's so far away.

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>When that happened over there thirty days ago.

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yo, cannot even make it thirty one days?

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Can I make it thirty days and an hour?

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really tough. And so to be able to say

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 4>that and to know that there ain't nobody that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it ain't no, ain't no, ain't no nobody with a

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<v Speaker 4>script around the corner like Na, Na, remember that scripts

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<v Speaker 4>people had that script March twenty then you said you

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<v Speaker 4>had a script that Nah, that's not a thing, And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so proud of myself, but I know for that,

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<v Speaker 4>it's somebody that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going through it right now and they need to hear

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<v Speaker 3>you and like that, Like you said that lady wrote

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<v Speaker 3>in your comments that she had never shared it with anybody,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and we just have powers to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to move people in different ways. And the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that she wanted to share that with you, whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>said or did or whatever it was, it was able

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<v Speaker 3>to move her and hopefully move her to do something

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<v Speaker 3>to help herself.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, she's she's she's sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she's sober now.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she.

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<v Speaker 4>Got sober, never told anybody about it, and now she's like, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on internet. She she she gave off, which I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even click a page or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave off a woman of our right, just like.

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<v Speaker 3>She might have needed to tell somebody because it might

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<v Speaker 3>have saved somebody's life. So shout out to you, Shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to be McFly for you know, for overcoming the

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<v Speaker 3>odds man and being examples of what it is when

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<v Speaker 3>you decide mentally that you're going to win and you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna overcome something, so shout out to y'all. So on

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<v Speaker 3>a different note, I wouldn't say light, but on a

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<v Speaker 3>different note, you know, I have a I don't get

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<v Speaker 3>it today, but today's I don't get it. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>two prong I don't get it, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know I want to get killed or stabbed up by nobody,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted I wanted to I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Give a question to both men and women who actually

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<v Speaker 3>engaged in this behavior. I need to know why do

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<v Speaker 3>women have babies with men that don't want to have babies?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first part.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also don't get why do men have unprotected

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<v Speaker 3>sex with women that they don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have children with? Right, So it's a two prong question.

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<v Speaker 3>You saying you don't want to have a baby, You're

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<v Speaker 3>saying this and that, and you know you don't, but

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<v Speaker 3>you still continue to have unprotected sex with this woman,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that the possibility exists.

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<v Speaker 2>For her to have a baby, and you know that

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't understand neither one of these mentalities at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish somebody would give me an understanding of how

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<v Speaker 3>it even makes any level of sense, because it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>the dumbest should I ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe you shouldn't have sex because if an accident,

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<v Speaker 4>like what if you told a woman I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to have children and then she gets pregnant by accident.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go telling people that they have to have it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is, but the thing is, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't. You can have the baby. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is you're looking, You're having an expectation of

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<v Speaker 3>somebody that you shouldn't have an expectation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, but if I did not try to get

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<v Speaker 4>we both made a decision. We know sex makes babies,

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<v Speaker 4>we know that. We know that, we know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's some people that irresponsible that.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole point of sex, right, it was, Yes, there

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<v Speaker 4>was the part about pleasure. It was a pleasure, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole point pleasure sex. No, No, it is reproduction. You

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<v Speaker 4>think that what you know I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You said, I'm not talking about what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that it cannot that it does not

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<v Speaker 4>benefit the pleasure purpose. I'm saying that the organs and

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<v Speaker 4>the actual practice of it. Pro Creation is at the

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<v Speaker 4>heart of what you're supposed to into when you have sex, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So intercourse, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to it's supposed to be about procreation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So now you have a baby, you have sex

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<v Speaker 4>with somebody and they tell you, I do not want

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<v Speaker 4>to have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So the next question, one we think would be do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to have kids? Right, because if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to have kids, even if we about to use a condom,

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<v Speaker 4>I know that the chances that the kind of could

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<v Speaker 4>break or that could be an incident. So if you're

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<v Speaker 4>not one of those people who are willing to have

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<v Speaker 4>an abortion, and you might you know, some people want

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<v Speaker 4>to have an abortion, but they might find out too

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<v Speaker 4>lay and or their bodies can't handle it for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Well no, yeah, now yeah, Now politically you can't do

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<v Speaker 4>it for you can go to jail. But I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>that there are people who literally with the ability to

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<v Speaker 4>get an abortion, they cannot do it because of their

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<v Speaker 4>their whatever right their physical condition. So I'm not even

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<v Speaker 4>told by unprotected sex. The question still is out there.

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<v Speaker 4>If that person says yes, I want to know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not willing to go in the back alley and get

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<v Speaker 4>a hanger up me or whatever. Why then do you

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<v Speaker 4>are you should you still be held accountable for that child,

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<v Speaker 4>at least financially.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for me, right that as a man, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always gonna be hand accountable for any creation that I make.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But I'm a responsible individual like that. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a decision that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've made that if I make a baby, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>how it's made, that is my child, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to do everything possible to support, love and be a

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<v Speaker 3>father to my child. But I also being Devil's advocate

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<v Speaker 3>and just giving you another perspective. I know men that

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<v Speaker 3>just don't want anything to do with they they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have They're not stable at all. They don't they don't

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<v Speaker 3>claim anything. I know men that just literally just move around.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have any goals or aspirations to be fathers

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<v Speaker 3>to children, right, and they live their life and win.

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<v Speaker 3>The relationship with the women is the relationship. Especially if

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<v Speaker 3>they never wanted to have the child, then they are

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<v Speaker 3>completely fine with having absolutely no relationship with a child.

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<v Speaker 3>There are men that way, They're all like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to there are a bunch of men like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want you to know, and I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 4>you just finish it up that my mother used to

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<v Speaker 4>tell my cousins, you know, the men in our family,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure she got this from my grandmother, that

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<v Speaker 4>having sex is extremely expensive. It's probably the most expensive

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<v Speaker 4>decision you will ever make in your life, because you

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<v Speaker 4>can catch STDs, something that you can never get rid of,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can make a responsibility bring something into the

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<v Speaker 4>world that you may not be prepared to take care of.

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<v Speaker 4>So I hope that as men, our brothers are out

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<v Speaker 4>there educating. We're helping our younger brothers to know it's expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they say dating, you can't just date, like

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<v Speaker 4>dating costs money. It costs money to date somebody. It

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<v Speaker 4>costs money and mental health stuff, whatever you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they're saying it's expensive. But I hope that

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<v Speaker 4>our young brothers are also understanding it's not just the

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<v Speaker 4>pleasure principle. It is actually an act that should result

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<v Speaker 4>in the procreation so that we as a as a

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<v Speaker 4>as a race, a human race, can continue to grow

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<v Speaker 4>and blossom and to multiply. So when you start putting

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<v Speaker 4>that ship in that language, then people should get a

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<v Speaker 4>different understanding. When you lay down with somebody, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>just laying down with them so you could feel good,

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<v Speaker 4>so you could get your ejaculation, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, you are actually laying down in a spiritual experience. Bruh.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's it's not that ain't nobody listening to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that it's not really being taught because I heard I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was told don't have that's it, right, But the average

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<v Speaker 3>person that's been having sex, right, they don't see the soul.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear what you're saying, and I'm trying to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that the average reality of that we deal with

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<v Speaker 3>on a basic human level, that's just not everybody's reality.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are.

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<v Speaker 3>People who don't give a fuck, this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to say, And they give but they don't give

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<v Speaker 3>a fu. But there are people who really don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about principle.

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<v Speaker 1>They never even heard that what I'm and.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people that they just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't align with them and they've made up

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<v Speaker 3>their mind that they don't care about certain things. So

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm trying to say is I want us all

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<v Speaker 3>to be proactive and not reactive. I want women to

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<v Speaker 3>stop giving your bodies to men who say they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to have children when you want to have children

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<v Speaker 3>that might impregnate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop having unprotected sex with these men.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop expecting them to be men when they haven't shown

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<v Speaker 3>you or told you that they will be men men.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop having sex for women unprotected that you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be bothered or protecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're just having said no, But that's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>But protection does not guarantee a person.

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<v Speaker 2>You're taking the necessary precautions, right, So I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you have a baby, then that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But once you have a baby, what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>say is it is it? But once you once we've

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<v Speaker 3>had a baby, and we've had a baby, do accident

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<v Speaker 3>right and I didn't purposely do something, and you made

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<v Speaker 3>a decision that you're having a baby, and you're not

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<v Speaker 3>in a situation where you can't have a baby, and

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<v Speaker 3>you made that decision that you want to have that baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I even though I personally I would never say that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't abandon never abandoned a child. But I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't call a man at fault. It's just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can ask you a question that comes you know

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<v Speaker 2>what that comes to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she's having it if she's impregnated with a baby,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is the aug they have. She's pregnant with

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<v Speaker 3>a baby she does not want to have. She's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of that baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, some people don't. There's a lot of people that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's but more often than not, no more, if a

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<v Speaker 3>woman does not want to have a baby, she does

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<v Speaker 3>not have.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, excuse me. Let me lay down some facts

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<v Speaker 1>so you can know.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, the statistics are that more women have children they

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<v Speaker 4>don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, abortion is actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Women have children they do not want than those who

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<v Speaker 4>have abortions. One, we don't always have the resources because

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<v Speaker 4>of shame and yes, because of rape and other incidents

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<v Speaker 4>that you were unable to navigate.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of women, my son. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times.

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<v Speaker 4>The way that you see the world, you think of

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<v Speaker 4>it as we are very we we are elitists in

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<v Speaker 4>our experiences because we live in the north, We live

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<v Speaker 4>in New York. We live in a place where playing

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<v Speaker 4>parenthood is right there. The other clinic to this place

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<v Speaker 4>that that you know, all the clinics we've been to,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're done sad in some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't business.

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<v Speaker 4>You never went to take a woman or pick a

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<v Speaker 4>woman up from having an abortion. You just low live neself.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've never got I don't have it, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Then and that's and that's and that's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was being funny, but on the serious side, when

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<v Speaker 4>you live in a community that doesn't have a clinic,

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<v Speaker 4>or the clinic is killing people, or you have to

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<v Speaker 4>have money, you don't have insurance, you don't have health insurance,

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<v Speaker 4>or you can't get a hold of the health insurance

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<v Speaker 4>card because your parents keep.

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<v Speaker 2>It locked away.

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<v Speaker 4>You have the baby that you know, You have the

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<v Speaker 4>baby that you don't necessarily want. Sometimes family members will

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<v Speaker 4>force you because of your the religious beliefs of your mother,

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<v Speaker 4>your grandmother or whomever. They tell you we don't do abortions,

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<v Speaker 4>so you get pregnant and you end up with a child.

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<v Speaker 4>There are more stories like that than people who have abortions.

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<v Speaker 1>I get your point that a woman has that option.

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<v Speaker 4>Or used to in some places, but I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 4>just know that there are more people who have children

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't want and they have to take care

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Our community and especially our men should hold

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<v Speaker 4>responsible any man who has a child on this earth

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<v Speaker 4>that they do not do something to contribute to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that, I agree with them, But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to say even if I personally, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see them at full I just don't. If you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you take all the necessary course, if you take all

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<v Speaker 3>of the necessary precautions not to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a child, you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>My sign, I don't understand what I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you. If you have sex, you have not taken

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<v Speaker 4>all of the necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time, that every time you should want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a child.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not one.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't say anything about that absolutely, because what you

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<v Speaker 4>just said is that it is. It's not really tell

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<v Speaker 4>you what's so realistic about it, because this is because

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<v Speaker 4>because we are on a hot mic, and what we

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<v Speaker 4>say here goes into the world, and when we are

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<v Speaker 4>you say that you need to take the every you say,

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<v Speaker 4>every necessary precaution not to have a child, that you

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<v Speaker 4>cannot hold the person at fault.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not being that that responsible.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you said I cannot hold them at fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I think should be responsible.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, no, no, you said I cannot hold them at fault.

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<v Speaker 4>What I am saying to you is that it is

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<v Speaker 4>an incomplete thought. What you said here is that if

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<v Speaker 4>you have taken every possible precaution. So now if we

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<v Speaker 4>write down a list of precautions of not getting pregnant,

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<v Speaker 4>because they don't have no world where you can get

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<v Speaker 4>pregnant by the air blowing on you, understanding that not

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<v Speaker 4>having sex is the first way not to have keys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So once we know that, then as a community, if

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<v Speaker 4>a person made that step and they did have sex,

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<v Speaker 4>which means they didn't take the first precaution, and you

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<v Speaker 4>have a child, it should be condemnation that you don't

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<v Speaker 4>take care of.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't matter to some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Man or woman. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>If you do, you condemn a woman that has abortion

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want no, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Child that's walking around?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you condemning a woman who made a decision that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have this baby. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want none to do with this baby. The

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<v Speaker 3>man wants the baby and he she says no, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want the baby, and she gets rid of the baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you con I do not condemn I do not

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<v Speaker 4>condemn her, but I will tell you this much. I

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely condemn any person because, by the way you told

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<v Speaker 4>me the other day, there's no way that the average

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<v Speaker 4>woman is stronger than a man physically, if you fit physically,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way physically that the average woman, not women

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<v Speaker 4>woman is stronger than the That means that if I

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<v Speaker 4>get into a fight with a man and I hit

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<v Speaker 4>him or do something to him and he beats me up,

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<v Speaker 4>I put myself in a situation because I already know

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<v Speaker 4>that for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot beat that man.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you have sex with a woman, as a man,

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<v Speaker 4>you are putting yourself in a situation that you cannot control.

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<v Speaker 1>You get beat up body.

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<v Speaker 2>But hear what But I hear what you said.

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<v Speaker 3>But just like and I'm telling you, just like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>she knows she she can't beat the man. It don't

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<v Speaker 3>stop him from fucking you up. If he don't give

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<v Speaker 3>a fuck whether you could beat him or nothing. Just like,

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<v Speaker 3>it don't matter that you care. You condemn the nigga

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<v Speaker 3>that don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To baby, that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. Our community. Don't get the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get community.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bunch of dead it's dead beat niggas wunning

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<v Speaker 3>around here all day and they look.

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<v Speaker 4>Around mindsets like yours when you telling it, not hold

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<v Speaker 4>them at fall. At fall, I call court and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>giving the judge I'm no judge, and the jury and

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<v Speaker 4>the motherfucking executioner. If you don't take care of child

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<v Speaker 4>that you laid down to make, you ain't ship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can say that, but some people don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about not being ship. That's all I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>It is niggas that is piece of ships, and they

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<v Speaker 3>all they so they are so comfortable being pieces of ship.

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