1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the worst thing about being on a 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: beach in seventy eight degree weather in sunny southern California. 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: The answer is if it's a Wednesday. Well, it kind 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: of prevents us from doing the Late Kick Extra podcast. 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: But we're back in Nashville. We have rectified that. So 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: we got a Waltz Wall Q and a mail bag 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: this morning. It's what we do at the middle of 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: every week. This is a little bit different than Late 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Kick Live, which you can find replays of also in 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: this podcast feed. I'm Josh Pate. It is Wednesday, July, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: sixth year of our lower twenty twenty two. Is college 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: football going to look the same in five years? Let's 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: just dive into it. Let's waste no time. I know 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: this is a mail bag, it's Q and A, but 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: so many of you have asked this question. I'm just 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: going to present it generically, and the generic question is 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the way things are headed? 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: This is even more updated than Sunday night when we 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: did Late Kick Live. We think the Big twelve is 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: going to make a move. Here. We're waiting with baited 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: breath on what the ACC is going to do if 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: they're going to do anything. Are the big ten in 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: sec gonna expand anymore? How do you feel about it? 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Though there have been a lot of different opinions thrown 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: out there, I'm going to kind of give you my latest. 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm also going to react some because a lot of 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: you asked me what I thought about what some other 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: people were saying. This is not usually that kind of podcast. 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: But I'll do it this morning, or or it maybe 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: afternoon wherever, and whenever you're listening. Thank you for doing so. 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: So there was a big kerfuffle, you know how rarely 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I used that word in my Twitter feed yesterday. If 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: you're listening to this on Wednesday, I'm recording it on Tuesday. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: It just happens fresh in my mind, and it was 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: about something Joel Klatt said. He's not the only one 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: who said this. I guess he's just the most noteworthy 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: person who has suggested it. Joel Clatt, of course, does 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: phenomenal work over on Fox. He's the lead color guy, 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: works right alongside Gus Johnson. You know my affinity for 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Big Noon kickoff, so I love Big Noon, Joel. So 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I'll set it up for you. If you missed all this, 42 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Joel Clatt. In response to all of the changing tides 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: in college football right now and USC and UCLA headed 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Big Ten rumors that there may be more expansion, Joel 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Klatt went on Twitter. He said the following, It's incredibly 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: hard to see right now, in particular if your team 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: is outside the SEC or Big Ten, but the long 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: term outlook for fans is a good one. We will 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: look back on these times as the moves that shaped 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: a better postseason, more quality non conference games, and stronger governance. Now, 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: that's well written, and sometimes if you just write it 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: well enough, you can get what we call bumper sticker syndrome, 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: which is where you could just say any old thing, 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and if it sounds cool and it's a well constructed thought, 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: some people would just accept it. So it took a 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: few minutes, but eventually some people started diving into it 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: a little deeper. So there were some responses to the positive. 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you one right here, Tim Brando said, he 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: is right. Joel's right, and the rhetoric you're hearing from 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: elsewhere is by design. There are many in media that 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: loathe college athletics, and they attack in ways they never 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: would The NFL, NBA, and Frankly, most pro sports change 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: is hard without flaws. But in the end, college football 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: will be fine. I'll just drop my two cents in here. 65 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Tim Brendo is partly right there because you know as 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: well as I do. Now, you guys driving around or 67 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: working out or wherever you are, you're listening to this. 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: You have heard me talk about this many times. I 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: have heard you complain about this many times, about how 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the traditional American sports media infrastructure is filled with people 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: who really came up on pro sports and only later 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: on in their professional careers were told, hey, you need 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: to go and cover college sports too. It's never their 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: first love, or most of the time it's not, and 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: as a result, they treat it differently. They don't love it, 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: so they feel free to attack it, and they do 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: hold it to a different standard. So Brando's absolutely right 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: there now when he says everything will just be fine. 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Let me get back to that, because I know a 80 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of you out there are yelling no, it won't 81 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: be fine. So then Mike Golick Junior came in and 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: he's responding to Joel Klapp saying, hey, in the long run, 83 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be better for college football. Fans, 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: and Golick said, I believe that all him on whether 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: you consume college football as a national or a regional product, 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: because everything described here makes for a really good TV 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: product a lot of money. But for regional fans of 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: the sport outside the current has I don't know, man, 89 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: none of that looks good for them. That's kind of 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: where my mind has been. And I'll tell you before 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I share what my response was. What's aggravated me some 92 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: mildly at this point. It takes a lot more to 93 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: get under my skin than this. But what's mildly aggravated 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: me is anytime you push back on some of these changes. 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: You've probably heard it, like I have. There's this group 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: in the room who wants to run up and tell 97 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: you why this is so important because the TV numbers 98 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and the media rights deals will make so much more money. 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't get that, Like I haven't seen the numbers. 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: You know this is publicly available, guys. You're getting your 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: stats and figures from the same articles I read. I 102 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: know that the Big ten is about to sign a 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar media right steal. I know that Disney 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: ESPN acquired the rights to the se see for what 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: will be the equivalent of over three billion dollars over 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: the lifetime of that ten year deal. I know all that. 107 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you a question. I'm gonna let 108 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: it simmer for a second because I'm gonna get right 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: back to reading some of these responses. Does that equal better? 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Think about how you define what makes college football good? 111 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: I'm asking you now, I'm not telling you listen to 112 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, because ultimately it comes down to how you feel. 113 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: You're gonna watch something based on whether you like it 114 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: and it appeals to you or not. So if you're 115 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: driving around to Des Moines, Iowa right now, think to yourself, 116 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: does Fox or ESPN or the SEC or the Big ten? 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Does one of them spending more money and one of 118 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: them pocketing more money? Does that automatically just make me 119 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: feel good about what's on my TV? Now? My short 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: answer is, I couldn't care less how much conferences are making. 121 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't care less how much a TV network is 122 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: paying to acquire those rights. I don't care about that. 123 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: You know why, because I'm not in those rooms. I'm 124 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: not the one signing my John Hancock on the dotted line. 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: So really, that doesn't concern me. But think about this, 126 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: it concerns me more than it concerns you. At least 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm in this business like at least I have a 128 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: show where we'll probably end up seeing a financial windfall 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: from this. You should care even less than I do. 130 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you I don't care. So let me 131 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: just go back now to reset the scene. You got 132 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt saying, Hey, in the long run, this is 133 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: going to be better. Even if you can't see it 134 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: right now, it's going to be better. So what I 135 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: did is I shared some thoughts there. I just retweeted it. 136 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: It's still up there. I don't think anything's been deleted. 137 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: And I said, well, here's an alternate take. It's quite 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: possible a sport built on regionality and brands in local 139 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: media markets was never meant to be consumed the same 140 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: way that the NFL is. College football strength has always 141 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: been rooted in uniqueness, not conformity, And essentially what I'm 142 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: saying there, I think it was pretty straightforward. But what 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying there is I think it's total apples to 144 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: oranges sometimes to compare what has worked with the NFL 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: and therefore what should work with college football. And I 146 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: know that you are hearing a lot of voices out 147 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: there right now say this has worked in the pro 148 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: sports model. These TV executives know what they're doing, and 149 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that they sure do. It's just are 150 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: they doing something that's born in the same motivation as ours? 151 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: That's the question. Is their endgame the same as our endgame? 152 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: But I get what's worked, But I also get that 153 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the NFL has teams in Dallas and Atlanta and Miami 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and Charlotte. There's a reason why those NFL franchises are 155 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: where they are. That's not the way it works in 156 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: college sports. So a lot of folks are trying to 157 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: apply this pro sports mentality from a media rights perspective 158 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and thus a structural perspective to our sport. And our 159 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: sport has, as far as I could tell, always been 160 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: based around many teams that are in remote locations penpoints 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: on a map, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, clubs in South Carolina, you know, Aimes, Iowa. 162 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: These are not huge metropolises or metropoli I guess would 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: be the plural there. And if it wasn't before, it 164 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: is now. So does that really apply? Does that really 165 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: make you feel better about the direction of the sport. Now, 166 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: to go back to what Joel said, and to be clear, 167 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: this is not a bash Joel Cox or Joel Cox 168 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: works here Joel Klatt. This is not a bash Joel 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Clatt show. I love the work Joel Clatt does. I 170 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: would love for him to be right, be very clear 171 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: about that. I hope he's right. I hope we do 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: look up five years from now and we say that 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: stuff I thought was going to be the end of 174 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: times for college football, it ended up making a better product. 175 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: I like what we have here. I'd love to live 176 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: in that world. It's tough for me to conceptualize that 177 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: right now, but I would love to live in that world. 178 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: But I think the more realistic approach is to look 179 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: around and to listen to folks who tell me this 180 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: is all about money, which it is, and I respond with, Okay, 181 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: it is all about money. Like Brady Quinn popped in, 182 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: he said, man, money's driving all this. Well, I know that. 183 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean I had had Brady on the show last week, 184 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: we talked about it. I know that my response was 185 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: that's not the end all be all for me. Like 186 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: if we have something on the table that maximizes what 187 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: a TV network is willing to spend. That doesn't always 188 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: mean it's the best possible college football product. I look 189 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: at it and I say, TV money, it absolutely is 190 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: driving the bus. But I don't view TV money as 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: the ideal compass for a product. Most executives do not 192 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: instinctively get Never forget that most of the folks who 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: are involved in this, they understand the business side. They 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: understand a P and L sheet, They understand profitability and 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: how to maximize that profit. They get all that. That's 196 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: the world those folks live in. Do they understand the 197 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: lifeblood of college football? Do they understand it? Do they eat, sleep, 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: and breathe it? And I know this sounds very infantile, 199 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: this sounds very idealistic. Well that's kind of the way 200 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: I think about our sport. I know some of your 201 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: fancy terms. I sit in on some of your meetings 202 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: on the other side of the fence, but really I'm 203 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: over there with you guys. I look at it, and 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: it's as simple to me as why do we always 205 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: have to screw up a good thing? Like? Why in 206 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: the world do I live in a sporting society where 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: quite literally any other form of sports in this country 208 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: has been professionalized, including football, And so if you want 209 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: that version of it, you can watch pro football on Sundays. 210 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: If you want it. In baseball, you can watch MLB. 211 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: If you want it in basketball, you get the idea. 212 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: So you've got a pro version where you got that 213 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: kind of model, and it's everywhere around you. Why couldn't 214 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: we leave this one thing I love alone? And yet 215 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: we couldn't? You know why? Because there are too many 216 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: of us. Ironically, we're the problem. There's too much passion 217 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: for college football. And where you have passion, you have profitability, 218 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: and that sounds like a T shirt. So I'm going 219 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: to write that idea down. But that's the sad reality. 220 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: The more passion we had, the bigger we grew this game, 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: the more attractive it was going to be. And it 222 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: became so attractive that people, instead of spending tens of millions, 223 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: were willing to spend hundreds of millions to acquire the 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: rights to it, and then it became billions. And once 225 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: it's that way, they aren't interested anymore in the colloquialism. 226 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: They aren't interested anymore in the cute regionality. You look 227 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: at the fact that USC is going to play a 228 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: conference game in Piscataway, New Jersey. Laugh at that, and 229 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: I laugh at that. It's totally ridiculous. They look at 230 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it and they say, well, if the Rams can go 231 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: over there and play against the Jets, then why can't 232 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: USC go play Rutgers. And they'd look at you with 233 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a straight face after saying that sentence, and they wouldn't 234 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: even know the difference, because to them, there is no difference. 235 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: College football is an asset, just like the NFL is 236 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: an asset. And I hate that personally. Now that's my 237 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: take on it, EF, you want my take on it. 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: I hate that it's being viewed through that lens. I 239 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: love the territoriality of our sport. I love the regionality. 240 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I love that different parts of the country include their 241 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: own unique cultures. And that's true. In reality, our sport 242 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: mirrors that. Our sport represents that, I think more so 243 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: than any other sport in America. And I'm not saying 244 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you're totally stripping that away. Like when you turn on 245 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: an LSU game at night in Death Valley, It'll still 246 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: look the same whether Alabama's in town or Oklahoma's in town. 247 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I get that we're not turning the switch off on 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: the sport, but you are probably entering an era pretty 249 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: rapidly if you think about it. If you're twenty years 250 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: old right now, I don't know if you've thought about 251 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: it through this framework. If you're twenty years old right now, 252 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: let's say your dad's forty five years old, your dad 253 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: could tell you stories about what college football was like 254 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: before you were born. And you could tell you stories about, 255 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, what it was like when there was something 256 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: called the Blue Bonnet Bowl, for example, or the Blockbuster Bowl, 257 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: and you could tell you about what it was like 258 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: before Arkansas was in the SEC. But he can tell 259 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: you those sorts of stories. Do you have any earthly 260 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: idea from my college crowd out here, from my high 261 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: school crowd, from my early twenties crowd, Do you guys 262 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: have the slightest idea what it's going to be like 263 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: when you're forty five years old and we have gone 264 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: through all these changes that are upon us or on 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: the horizon, and you got kids of your own, and 266 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: you're telling them what you live through, and you're telling 267 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: them what college football used to look like. Here's what 268 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: that may sound like. It may sound like as you're 269 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: teaching your kid geography. Hey, you see this state here 270 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: up here in the Pacific Northwest, right below Washington. That's Oregon. 271 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: You know. They used to have two major football teams there. 272 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Now they got one and the one in Eugene. It's 273 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: called Oregon and it's in the Big Ten. But it 274 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: used to be in something called the Pac twelve. And 275 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: they used to have a game called the Civil War 276 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: until they changed it for whatever reason, I think fourteen 277 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: people got offended by it, so they changed the title 278 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: of the game. But they played this team from Corvallis 279 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: called Oregon State. They were the Beavers, and yes, believe 280 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: it or not, Jimmy, they used to play on equal footing. 281 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes Oregon State would win, sometimes Oregon would win, but 282 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: both of them were chasing the same prize. It was 283 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: called a Pac twelve championship. And then Jimmy asks you 284 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: what the Pac twelve is, and the Pac twelve to 285 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: little Jimmy will be like your current forty five year 286 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: old or fifty year old dad telling you what the 287 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: Southwest Conference was. I mean, the Southwest Conference is admittedly 288 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: a little before my time as well, but it at 289 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: one time was one of, if not the power conferences 290 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: of college football, had a bunch of Texas schools and 291 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: had Arkansas in it. Higher SMU thirty for thirty documentary 292 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Pony Excess, which is my favorite out of all the 293 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: documentaries ESPN's ever done. I love Pony Excess. If you 294 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: want a little refresher course on the Southwest Conference, go 295 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: check that out. Now. At the height of the Southwest Conference, 296 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: I guarantee you those folks thought nothing could touch the 297 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: SWC because there were no more passionate college football fans 298 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: in the country than in Texas. Well, it imploded, and 299 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: it actually ended up happening pretty quickly, as it turns out. 300 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying college football died because of that. In fact, 301 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: you could look around and you could say college football 302 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: thrived after that. College football did not need the Southwest Conference. Well, 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: does college football need the Pac twelve. No, it doesn't 304 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: need it to survive. But I'm looking around and I'm 305 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I'm not sure I want to I'm 306 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: not going to say it like that. I was gonna say, 307 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to live in a world. No, 308 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna choose to go on living. But 309 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about entering a world where we see 310 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: this many legitimate Power five programs just fall off, not 311 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: even to speak about G five programs. I don't know 312 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: what the future holds. To be brutally honest, I don't 313 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: know what it holds for schools like that, for schools 314 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: in the MAC and Sun Belt, I don't know. I 315 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: really don't know. Because one of the other questions right 316 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: now that is too far down the priority list to 317 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: ask much less answer, is what happens to those schools, 318 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: especially if you're expanding your conference schedule. Oh and by 319 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the way, you're trying to partner with other super conferences 320 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: for out of conference matchups. Well, all of a sudden 321 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: sounds to me like you just fill ten or eleven 322 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: slots out of a twelve game season. Where are the 323 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: out of conference matchups against what you would call the 324 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: cream puffs? Now, Creampuff to you is just an easy win. 325 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Creampuff to someone else was the lifeblood of their program 326 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: that gave them financial sustainability. I mean, Akron needs it badly, 327 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Bowling Green needs it badly. I don't know what happens 328 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to him. You may think to yourself, I don't care. 329 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't watch Bowling Green games on Saturdays. Well, what 330 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: happens every year is dozens of kids get to play 331 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: football at the college level and get to go to 332 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: school for free because Bowling Green football exists and it 333 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: in part is subsidized by being able to play a 334 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: couple of those tune up games per year. Now, is 335 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: that going to impact your viewing habits on Saturday? Probably not, 336 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: But it is an aspect I don't enjoy seeing. But 337 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: it's not just at the G five level. If we're 338 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: moving the direction that it looks like we're moving. What's 339 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: happened into wake Forest? What's happening to Syracuse? What's happening 340 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: to Oregon State? Where does col go? And I'm looking 341 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: at him and I'm saying, those are teams that I've 342 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: legitimately grown up seeing every Saturday. I'm not watching them 343 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: wire to wire, but I'm very aware of what the 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: wake Forest score is. Like they're on the radar and 345 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: they're just gone. Is that what's happening? Or are they 346 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: ceasing to exist on the same level Because there's no 347 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: world to me where those programs exist in the same 348 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: realm as the big boys do. So you could sell 349 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: me again, like Joel Klatt tried to do. You could 350 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: sell me that there's a world if the right hands 351 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: are on the wheel, where this is not a burning 352 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: down of college football, but it is just a controlled 353 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: burn of some of the underbrush that was never going 354 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to be able to survive anyway. And what we're left 355 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: with is the strongest vegetation in the sport. And you 356 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: were left with, however, many power conferences you want to 357 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: call them. And as a result, also you get streamlined governance. 358 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: The NCAA's out of the way, and these conferences police themselves, 359 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: and you've got a standardized NIL structure, and the transfer 360 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: portal has gotten in order. Look, that all sounds great. 361 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: If you could promise me that's coming, where do I sign? 362 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: Because at this point that sounds a lot better than 363 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: some of the alternatives. But right now, as I said 364 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: the other night, we are not in post tornado assessment mode. 365 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: We're in the tornado. You don't know how strong it was, 366 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: it's happening right now. You don't know how bad the 367 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: damage is. You don't know how many injuries there are. 368 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: You're in it. We're in it currently. So there's no 369 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: skill in knowing any of that. So I know there 370 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of opinions out there. I've got them too. 371 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of whispering them. I've got them too. But 372 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: the biggest skill right now, I was just saying, I 373 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: don't know, let's wait and see. Let's just wait and see. 374 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I've got my concerns. They aren't recent. If you've been 375 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: listening to Late Kick for a while, you know I've 376 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: been talking about this for a while. But some of 377 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: these programs they have no fallback. I mean, you gotta 378 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: have a fallback. It really greatly helps when you know, 379 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: for example, like if I get tongue tied, I could 380 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: just do this, well, a few truths in an uncertain world. 381 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm telling you we got the best 382 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: ad tosses in the business going on here right now. 383 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Zero point zero zero percent chance you saw that coming. 384 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about expansion exclusively on the 385 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: show today, so I did want to get some questions 386 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: in here. Really Glad you guys are tuned in if 387 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: you missed the Sunday show. Got a bunch of big 388 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: announcements coming Sunday night, a bunch of them. Just tune in. 389 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: That's all I can say right now, it'll be on 390 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: the Monday replay if you want to wait for it 391 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: in the podcast feed, But Sunday Night Live on the 392 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven well on the Late Kick YouTube 393 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: channel as it is now eight eastern, seventh Central. In 394 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: the meantime, Mike in Naples floor asked why is everyone 395 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: high on Miami when Mario Christabaal hasn't proven anything? You know, 396 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: this also could have been just an aggregated question because 397 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people ask this one too. So Mike 398 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: from Naples is going to be the representative here. They're 399 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: high on him because he has done things before. I 400 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: think if you were to land on Earth today and 401 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: you decided to be a college football fan and you 402 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: just heard what some people say about Mario Christaball, you 403 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: would think he's never coached, or you would think he's 404 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: like five and thirty eight career. The guy has two 405 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: conference titles in just his time at Oregon. He won 406 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl out there. He didn't win a national championship. 407 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, that's I'll grant you that. So I'm 408 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: not telling you he's Nick Saban two point oh or 409 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Kirby two point zero. But to suggest the guy's done 410 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: nothing is ludicrous. Well, what scale are we grading on here? 411 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what else he did and this 412 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: is what has him excited. Of course, he recruited when 413 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: he was out there, and he recruited at a national 414 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: level too, and he wasn't taken backup options. So I'll 415 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: tell you, Mike in Naples, what has pretty much everyone 416 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: high on Miami is they're currently sitting in the top ten. 417 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: And the same crowd who tells me not to focus 418 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: on class rankings right now was the crowd that was 419 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: bashing Miami for being ranked in the mid thirties a 420 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: week ago. I've got the receipts. I have some of 421 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: you on record as saying that, But I'm not going 422 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: to out you because that would be unprofessional. Dare I 423 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 1: say rude? And that's the last thing you would ever 424 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: expect from me. But they're going to have a good class. 425 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: They're always going to have a good class. That was 426 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: the least doubted thing when Mario went there. But the 427 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: other question that I've asked I'm not going to spend 428 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot of time on this, but the other 429 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: question rhetorically that I've asked anyone who wants to bash 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Miami fans for being excited, is how would you suggest 431 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: they should feel? How if you've been where Miami's been 432 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: and where they haven't been over the last twenty some 433 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: odd years, and you have not maximized on any of 434 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: the resources you have available to you down there, and 435 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: you haven't recruited, you haven't kept in state talent home, 436 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: and you haven't had that pride of program like a 437 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: lot of you grew up knowing Miami to be and 438 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: then one of yours comes home and he happens to 439 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: be a phenomenal recruiter, and then there's a re engagement 440 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: of the fan base, and then they get nil probably 441 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: tuned up about as well as anyone has, Which brings 442 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: me to the part of Mike's question that I didn't list, 443 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: but I guess I will. Mike just says they're going 444 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: out and buying every player right now. Mike, I would 445 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: ask you two things. First thing would be, do you 446 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: have any evidence that they're doing anything illegal? If so, 447 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: send it to me. Number two, If you don't, then 448 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: how do you think this thing's working period? Are we 449 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: talking nil? Are we talking illegal inducements? Because we're talking 450 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: about nil. I don't know if anyone's noticed lately, but 451 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how it works now. I was 452 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: at a Leite eleven last week. Now, I was having 453 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: some people tell me behind the scenes what the going 454 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: rate is for certain players at certain positions. And I 455 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: can tell you, Mike, that information was not all sourced 456 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: from Miami and their coaching staff and their boosters. I'm 457 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: going to assure you it came from all four corners 458 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: and across the fruited plane of our great country in 459 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: college football. So, Mike, they're going to recruit well down there. 460 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: What they're going to do with that talent, no one knows. 461 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: My guess is they'll win more games than they don't. 462 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: But whether they're going to contend for playoff spots or not, 463 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: that's almost secondary right now, because I personally get an 464 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: inbox full of Miami folks every day talking to me, 465 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: and they talk about how excited they are. They're not 466 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: making predictions, at least they aren't to me. They're not 467 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: expecting a national title in the next two years or 468 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: anything like that. They're expecting to improve, they're proud of 469 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: their program, they're reinvigorated. That's natural. That's exactly how I 470 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: would feel if I were a Miami fan, So I 471 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: can't criticize them for feeling the exact same way I would. 472 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Proof of performance has still got to be there, but 473 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: they know in order to make the meal, of course, 474 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: you got to have the ingredients. So it's exciting. They're 475 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: in the grocery store right now. It's very exciting. Jerry 476 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: hit me up from Silicaga, Alabama's right off Highway to 477 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: eighty driven that one many a time. He said, I 478 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: sense your disdain when you're talking about expansion. Am I 479 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: right in suggesting that you hate talking about this? Yes, 480 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: you are right. I don't like talking about it at all. 481 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Do you remember last year when OU and Texas when 482 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: the news broke that they were going to the SEC. 483 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: We got a big bump, like a lot of people 484 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: cared about it, obviously, But what I noticed and see, 485 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: if you remember this, we got like two weeks into 486 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: August before people really started talking about football, like the 487 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: actual upcoming season of football. And what happened was talk 488 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: of conference expansion sucked all the air out of the room. 489 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: And it's going to happen this year. It's already happening, 490 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: and it's gonna get worse probably before it gets better 491 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: in that sense. And so we've got media days coming up, 492 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: and everyone's going to ask about conference expansion, and no 493 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: one's going to ask about, you know, how the left 494 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: tackle spot's working out for your team, or the wide 495 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: receiver depth on your team. Well, that's what I care 496 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: about talking about. Now, I could I just assume leave 497 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: this stuff to other people. I'd let Dennis Dodd write 498 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: about this stuff. I was texting him today and he's 499 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: less than pleased to be pulled off the golf course 500 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: to be covering this too. But to answer your question, Jerry, 501 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't like talking about it because in July this 502 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: is the time where I kind of hit the on 503 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: switch and I'm full speed ahead towards the season, and then, 504 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: especially when we get to August, I want to be 505 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: talking about football, but you structure the show, not me. 506 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: So as long as your questions are tilted more towards 507 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: that topic, I've only got to assume that's what you 508 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: care about. More So, I guess I've got a table 509 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: what i want to do, and I've got to talk 510 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: about what you care about the most. Stephanie up next 511 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: in Charlotte, North Carolina. She said, how do you sell 512 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: kids on the recruiting trail to come to places where 513 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: they don't draw big crowds. I'm thinking about USC, I'm 514 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: thinking about Miami and a few other places. I appreciate 515 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: that question, Stephanie, it's a good one. So the first 516 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: thing you have to think about is the programs you 517 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: just listed, Miami and USC. Those are good examples there. 518 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: When you turn on a Miami game, you're not used 519 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: to seeing a lot of folks in the stands did 520 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: over the last few years with USC, but there are 521 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: examples throughout history of seeing both of those fan bases 522 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: show up in droves. I mean, there was a Notre 523 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: Dame game when they played Miami down in hard Rock 524 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: a few years ago, where they sold it out. It 525 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: was when Mark Rick was there. I think a Notre Dame. 526 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: I think they just got pasted that night, And of 527 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: course every headline the next day asked if the U 528 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: was back. You know how much I love that. But 529 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: they showed up in USC country. Of course, you've got 530 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: the bygone era of Pete Carroll where they regularly sold 531 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: the coliseum out. Here's the difference It's kind of a 532 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: cat's and dogs thing. If you own a dog, as 533 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: soon as you show up, man, when your car comes 534 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: around the corner, that dog comes running, especially if it's 535 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: a lab, Whereas if you own a cat, you pull up, 536 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: you get out of the car, you walk in, and 537 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: there it is up on the couch and it takes 538 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: a second or two to come to you. Point being, 539 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: they're both eventually going to come to you, but it's 540 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: just a differently wired animal. And the way that the 541 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: fan bases at Miami and USSE have worked is you 542 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: have got to convince them. You got to sell them. 543 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: They got to know what they're getting. Those are entertainment 544 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: rich areas. That's just the way it is. You know 545 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: it going in. So once you give them a product, 546 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: the good news is they will show up. They'll show up, 547 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: just like Bama fans or Ohio State fans. The difference 548 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: is Bama and Ohio State fans are going to show 549 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: up even when things are going sideways. When things go 550 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: sideways at the Coliseum, it looks embarrassing on TV. When 551 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: things go sideways at Miami, it looks embarrassing. Now, I've 552 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: always had a little crossroads of opinion on this, because 553 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: I would ask, well, what's better. Is it better to 554 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: be able to take for granted the idea of selling 555 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: out your stadium, or is it better for there to 556 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: be pressure on your athletic director and your head coach 557 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: to know that the only way we're going to have 558 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: a spectacle that we're able to sell to recruits is 559 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: if we're winning. Now, the follow up to that is, 560 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: if I were bringing you in, if I were recruiting 561 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: you to USC or if I were recruiting you to Miami, 562 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't have to sell you on the atmosphere. There's 563 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: so many other things I can sell you on, and 564 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: especially if you're a high profile player and I'm trying 565 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: to link Inil into all this. I'm selling you on 566 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: the opportunities you have in LA or in Miami. I'm 567 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: not selling you on what it sounds like in here 568 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: on third down. Now, if I can get a good atmosphere, 569 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: so be it. But that's cherry on top. Whereas if 570 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm recruiting for Nebraska, I'm selling Lincoln Nebraska. Man. I'm 571 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: selling game day no matter what our record is, and 572 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: hopefully it'll be better once you come and play for me. 573 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Here at Nebraska, But they're just different things you can sell, Stephanie, 574 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: and so it's not impossible to get those kind of 575 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: big crowds at Miami games or at USC games. But 576 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: they are going to wait for you to prove it 577 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: to them. They're not going to show up and then 578 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: have you prove it. You're gonna prove it and then 579 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: they'll show up. That's the way it's gonna work there. 580 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of Nebraska, seth is in Omaha, he said, do 581 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: you see the future of the quarterback position changing in 582 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: college football? Because that position will be paid so much 583 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: more than other positions in NIL? It could I've told you, 584 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a case by case. I think whether 585 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: NIL tears a part of locker room is case by case, 586 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the same as if bad attitudes tear a part of 587 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: locker room. But I'll tell you when I was at 588 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: a Lead eleven last week, those are some of the 589 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in the country. All of them are going 590 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: to get big NIL money, and I talked to some 591 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: of them off the record about it. Those kids have 592 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: it put together mentally. I don't know who in the 593 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: world is coaching them, and I don't know when they 594 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: start the mental training aspect of this whole thing. You're 595 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: talking about some guys given answers beyond their years, and 596 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: they have yet to enter their senior year of high school. 597 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: So some of them are sixteen or seventeen years old. 598 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: They will be eighteen coming up. I'm telling you, if 599 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: you could overhear my conversation with some of those guys 600 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: last week and you closed your eyes, you would think 601 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: they're five years into their NFL career with the way 602 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: they're talking about money, with the way they're talking about 603 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: handling themselves on and off the field. I'll tell you 604 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: one of the byproducts, one of the benefits of NIL 605 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: that you used to you used to have to worry 606 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: about that. I just don't think you're going to have 607 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: to worry about so much anymore. These dudes getting paid 608 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of money, so quarterbacks and whatnot, I don't 609 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to worry about any of them 610 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: get in trouble off the field. You think money is 611 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: going to corrupt people the group I talked to last week, 612 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I will be shocked if we 613 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: wake up to headline about Malachi Nelson or about Emery 614 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: Williams or about Dante Moore being in big trouble off 615 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: the field. Not only do I think they're just mature 616 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: enough to handle themselves, but then when you put financial 617 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: skin in the game, the likes of which these guys 618 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: have never had before. Oh and by the way, some 619 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: of these nil deals, whether you know this or not, 620 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: they have clauses. They have behavioral clauses built into them. 621 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: If you get in trouble off the field, if you 622 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: bring bad light onto our brand, we're severing ties with you. 623 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: So you go out all of a sudden at two am, 624 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: and you're thinking about whether to make a decision or not. Well, 625 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: what used to just make you run hills or maybe 626 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: get you suspended for the first half against Toledo, All 627 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden, they cost you three hundred and fifty 628 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You think that might not change your decision making, 629 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: or maybe you're not even out at two o'clock to 630 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: put yourself in the bad place to make the bad decision. 631 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: That's part of it. But the other part is I 632 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: think they've observed. I had a couple of them tell me, 633 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've observed what some of these guys have 634 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: done with the money they've gotten. They look at a 635 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: guy like Caleb Williams buying the locker room phones or 636 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: something like that. It's a small gesture in the grand 637 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: scheme of things, but it means something. And the ones 638 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: I talk to they're very aware of that. You know, 639 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: they're almost aware that people are watching them, and they're 640 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: aware that there could be that tension. When my left 641 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: tackles being paid, you know, seventy five grand from a 642 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: car dealership and I'm on the hook for about one 643 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: point eight five million dollars over the lifetime of my scholarship, 644 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: I probably need to hook him up, probably need to 645 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: take them out to eat a few times. I probably 646 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: need to talk him up in the media. I probably 647 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: need to use my platform to shine more light on 648 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: these other guys. They get that, they get that there's 649 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot of mental training and financial planning and training 650 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: that is going into this right now. I think there 651 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: could be more across the board, but these high level 652 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: guys are already getting it. So I do think, yes, 653 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: case by case, you could have a situation where big 654 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: money blows up in someone's face. I think far more 655 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: often than not, you're going to find that that worst 656 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: fear is not going to be realized. Here's what I realize. 657 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I realize that we are sitting in one of the 658 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: most blessed positions in this business. So I got to 659 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: thank you again when we had one hundred thousand subs 660 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: live the other night when we were out in LA 661 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: That was awesome, and we got slapped on the back 662 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: about one hundred times by management afterwards. I just know 663 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: that you already understand how I feel, so I don't 664 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: have to explain what this thing's all about to you. 665 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: You're probably if you're listening and you're new, A lot 666 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: of you are, because our numbers are bonkers every week. 667 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: You probably tuned in because you heard about this show 668 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: from a friend, or maybe you've had it in your 669 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: suggested feed. I hope it appeals to you, But I'm 670 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: telling you there is nowhere on earth where they are 671 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: more focused on delivering the most high quality college football 672 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: content to your feed every day than we are here, 673 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: and we've been able to expand our staff to do it. 674 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: You may hear one voice still, but we've got a 675 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: small army working behind the scenes on this now, and 676 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: we've got management. I know that I give a hard 677 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: time from time to time, because it is management, after all, 678 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: and they deserve it. They're making a lot of things 679 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: possible for us, so we appreciate it. And I certainly 680 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: appree you guys, cause it doesn't matter what management does 681 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: if you don't watch and listen. But you have to 682 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: an incredible degree, and therefore we're about to be able 683 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: to do a whole lot of stuff that we've wanted 684 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: to do, that you've asked me to do for two years, 685 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: two plus years since I've been here now, so thank 686 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: you for that. Make sure if you haven't already, fifty 687 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: eight percent of our listeners and viewers are still unsubscribed 688 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: pause for impact. Yes, So if you are not already subscribed, 689 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: whether it's the YouTube channel or this podcast, I don't 690 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: care where you're listening, subscribe. That's all you have to do. 691 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: It's free, nothing else happens. Subscribe and otherwise, thank you. 692 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: I know you will in advance, you guys always do 693 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: anytime I ask. We see a nice little bump in 694 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: traffic from that. So for producer, well, our entire production 695 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: team here, because I hand the podcast off differently than 696 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: I do the YouTube show. For everyone here, I'm Josh Bate. 697 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great rest of your day. Thanks for listening, 698 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and God bless