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Speaker 1: Cho the game we just ended the Lakers defeat the
Speaker 1: Grizzlies to one twenty three. Lebron James became the oldest
Speaker 1: man in NBA history. Well, he was already the oldest
Speaker 1: because he had three straight triple doubles. I think he
Speaker 1: was thirty four years of age three. You know, he
Speaker 1: was a couple of days older than Jason Kidd, who
Speaker 1: did it when he was thirty four. But he became
Speaker 1: the oldest man in NBA history to record three straight
Speaker 1: triple doubles. Thirty five points, twelve rebounds, fourteen assists, and
Speaker 1: they needed every single point, every single rebound, every single assist.
Speaker 1: He had nine points, seven rebounds, five assists in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter alone. The Lakers stayed undefeated at home as
Speaker 1: they beat the Grizzlies minus job Morant and minus Dein.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be that difficulty, O show,
Speaker 1: but the grim Bikes are very battles team that had
Speaker 1: won two, three, four, five, six guys in double figures.
Speaker 4: Another guy had nine points.
Speaker 1: They are very no they had seven guys in the
Speaker 1: double figure Excuse me, they're a very strappy team. You
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get when you played at Grizzlies,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of effort even without two
Speaker 1: of their best players. John obviously is their best player,
Speaker 1: but Jaren Jackson had a superior had a great game.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine points, seven rebounds. Zach Edy had nine points.
Speaker 1: Zach Edy No, Zach Edy had twelve point excuse me
Speaker 1: had twelve points. Ada Lama had what fifteen. Scotty Pippen Jr.
Speaker 1: Has been playing extremely well. He just needed he just
Speaker 1: needed a place where he could go and he could play.
Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna get the minutes there. I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Lakers would love to have him, but when you got
Speaker 1: Lebron who needs the ball, you're gonna have Austin Rivers
Speaker 1: on the point.
Speaker 2: And I think they had him before it. Maybe they
Speaker 2: had d Low also.
Speaker 1: That was just too many guys handling point, and so
Speaker 1: he wasn't gona get an opportunity to handle the ball. Ojo,
Speaker 1: but I thought the Lakers really needed this game. They
Speaker 1: had to dig deep. I don't know if they took
Speaker 1: him for granted, because Bain and Job was going to
Speaker 1: be out. But I had a twelve point lead, built
Speaker 1: the lead all the way to fifteen. I think the
Speaker 1: Griz cut it the one then outscore them in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. But the Lakers get it together. Ad was
Speaker 1: in foul trouble a large part of this game, and
Speaker 1: I think that had a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1: Edie is just so big man. I don't know how
Speaker 1: tall that. I think he's about seven four ojo. He
Speaker 1: just takes up so much space. So this was a
Speaker 1: big win. The Lakers stayed undefeated at home. But I
Speaker 1: thought the Lakers played really well when they absolutely have to.
Speaker 1: But you got to tip your hat to the Grizzly
Speaker 1: because they played well without two of the best players.
Speaker 2: When you watch the game on what you think.
Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoyed it up and down the field
Speaker 5: out without John morons it. They played very well in
Speaker 5: transition on both sides. On both sides of the court.
Speaker 5: Defensively they did the best that they could, but offensively
Speaker 5: in transition they played extremely well.
Speaker 4: Outside of that.
Speaker 5: For for me, knowing that you know how much I've
Speaker 5: really just started watching the game of basketball, I would
Speaker 5: have liked to see the difference with Baine and John
Speaker 5: Moran playing the night and see if that would have
Speaker 5: made a difference in the game. The fact that the
Speaker 5: Grids were able to keep it somewhat close.
Speaker 4: Keep it somewhat close.
Speaker 5: Because of the way they played, because of how you
Speaker 5: just spoke on and how scrappy they were. I would
Speaker 5: have liked that a little better. Outside of that was
Speaker 5: a good game. You did mention that Ad was in trouble,
Speaker 5: in trouble and he really couldn't get int the rythm early,
Speaker 5: but he did find his rhythm later on in the game.
Speaker 2: He was huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he had quarter threes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to kind of extend that lead a little bit more.
Speaker 5: Outside that, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And one
Speaker 5: of the things that would I would I would want
Speaker 5: and ask from you, being that the season is really
Speaker 5: just starting, and as I continue to learn the game
Speaker 5: of basketball, I think we need to sit courtside. I
Speaker 5: think we need to we need to sit courtside so
Speaker 5: you can teach me the game better. And I think
Speaker 5: I'm a visual learner. It'd be perfect. So you take
Speaker 5: me to all the games court sides.
Speaker 1: Probably I can put your touch with the guy that
Speaker 1: got that can get you the tickets to sit court side.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, I want to talk. No, guys,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk to you. I need you sit next
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 2: So I know what them court side ticket costs, bro, and.
Speaker 4: I know you got it. That ain't nothing to a
Speaker 4: player like you. That ain't none to it.
Speaker 1: Just like I'll sit court side if there's not a
Speaker 1: game on. But for me, I like watching all the games.
Speaker 1: It's hard for you to sit court side and watch
Speaker 1: the games when you got to be critiquing and analyzing
Speaker 1: all the games and come back and have a conversation
Speaker 1: about them. It's just that's one of the reason why
Speaker 1: I don't go to football games on Sunday, because I
Speaker 1: can't analyze all the other games that's going on if
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the stadium watching that one game, and
Speaker 1: there's so many other games that I need to talk about.
Speaker 1: So that's the main reason why I don't go to games.
Speaker 1: You know, I have an opportunity to go to games,
Speaker 1: go see the Broncos or Ravens play, but I'll be
Speaker 1: doing a disservice to try to come in here and
Speaker 1: have a conversation about other games that played, knowing that
Speaker 1: I was at a game watching focusing on that game.
Speaker 1: So that's the main reason why I don't even go
Speaker 1: to that. I don't even go to games. It would
Speaker 1: be nice to be able to go to a game
Speaker 1: here and there. I think the Broncos are coming out here.
Speaker 1: Well I know they are, but and somebody asked me
Speaker 1: to gym today, are you going to the Broncos Raiders game?
Speaker 2: I was like, Nah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: When I look at the game on Joe, you look
Speaker 1: at the Lakers, they shot and they're not the greatest
Speaker 1: three point shooting team. They can get their streaky don't connect.
Speaker 1: Obviously their best three point shooter they made. They shot
Speaker 1: forty eight percent, almost forty. They shot basically forty nine
Speaker 1: percent from the three. But the turnover, that's what to
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. And you had a fifteen point
Speaker 1: lead and you turn them ball over a couple of times,
Speaker 1: you get lazy on defense and guys you know, basically
Speaker 1: hit a shoot around three's on you or they get
Speaker 1: you know, uncontested lay up to the basket. I think
Speaker 1: that's what really hurt them because normally the Lakers, you
Speaker 1: shot fifty one percent from the floor, you shot forty
Speaker 1: nine percent from the three.
Speaker 2: You was terrible from the free throw line. You was
Speaker 2: twenty two or thirty two.
Speaker 1: You got to be from Lebron was five of eight,
Speaker 1: cam Reddis was one of four. Austin Reeve was five
Speaker 1: or seven. You got to be better in a closer game.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need to make those free throws. You need
Speaker 1: to be twenty eight of thirty two something like that.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine and thirty two. There's no reason for you
Speaker 1: to miss that many free throws. But you know, other
Speaker 1: than that, connect play good coming off the bench. Uh
Speaker 1: Co Loco played good off the bench. D Low struggling
Speaker 1: a little bit tonight. Gabe Vincent hadn't found this stroke yet.
Speaker 1: He hadn't found this stroke in a while.
Speaker 5: Hey do you do you think d Loo coming off
Speaker 5: the bench? Do you think that bothers him? You think
Speaker 5: it bothers him not being able to get a rhythm, well,
Speaker 5: not not having that, I don't know the word to use,
Speaker 5: not not confidence. But usually when the player is coming
Speaker 5: off the bench that is normally a starter, it's harder
Speaker 5: than to catch rhythm and a little bit a little hesitant,
Speaker 5: you know, when they decided to pull the trigger out
Speaker 5: there on the court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know he's been a starter basically
Speaker 1: his whole career. So you have to revamp your game.
Speaker 1: You know lou You see, Lou Will was a starter.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden they brought him off the bench.
Speaker 1: What's the guy named Jamal Crawford. Guys that I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to you know, basically you have to just
Speaker 1: like but you do have the green light. Normally, guys
Speaker 1: that come up the bench, you understand they're gonna have
Speaker 1: they have the green light. A elite monk was the
Speaker 1: start and now they move him to the bench. He
Speaker 1: has the green light to get it rhythm. And but
Speaker 1: I think this role is better suited for him because
Speaker 1: you insert Cam Reddish and you ask Cam Reddish to
Speaker 1: guard probably one of the premium backcourt guys. That takes
Speaker 1: a pressure off of Bostar Reeds, so he didn't have
Speaker 1: to exert so much energy trying to stay in front
Speaker 1: of a guy like a job, trying to stay in
Speaker 1: front of one of the better one or two guards.
Speaker 1: And so that's the thing you have to tip your
Speaker 1: hat for a guy like Jordan, a guy like Kobe
Speaker 1: that took the challenge Lebron in his prime, that took
Speaker 1: the challenge to guard the best guy and still had
Speaker 1: to give you an offer offensive production. On the other end,
Speaker 1: That's what separates the guys, the really good uh and
Speaker 1: the great players is that they were willing accept that challenge,
Speaker 1: even if they didn't do it for the entire game.
Speaker 1: When the Rubber needed to meet the road, they would
Speaker 1: take that challenge in the fourth quarter, overtime or late
Speaker 1: in the ball games, and says, okay, nah, give him him,
Speaker 1: give me him. But yeah, but I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you say about Lebron? I mean, I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at this point in time, the man is what thirty nine,
Speaker 1: three hundred and fourteen days?
Speaker 2: Whatever is it?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: No more than that is, yeah, because there's forty five
Speaker 1: more days, three sixty five, so yeah, three hundred fourteen days,
Speaker 1: So there's forty six more days. I'd like to say, guys,
Speaker 1: there's forty six more days before his birth of his birthday.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what do you say, thirty five points,
Speaker 1: twelve rebounds fourteen or sis?
Speaker 2: He shot great?
Speaker 1: I mean officially efficiency was off the chart thirteen or
Speaker 1: twenty two four to seven from the three. Like I said,
Speaker 1: Ad was in foul trouble. He missed some easy shot.
Speaker 1: Lebron missed a couple of easy shots. But in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they needed both of their big guns
Speaker 1: to step up. Ad has played great all year long.
Speaker 1: I got no qualms, but Ad tonight it was a
Speaker 1: relatively quiet night for him. Twenty one point fourteen rebounds,
Speaker 1: six and sixteen from the floor. He was shooting fifty
Speaker 1: seven percent coming into the game. Like I said, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard for him to get a rhythm. He
Speaker 1: was dealing with a guy that's so so much taller
Speaker 1: than he is. And even when you turn around and
Speaker 1: create space shooting over a guy that's seven foot I
Speaker 1: think he's seven foot four. Even if he jumps a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, it's like problem. Yeah, and so,
Speaker 1: but give those give give him credit. I want to
Speaker 1: give the Grizzlies credit because I thought they played extremely hard.
Speaker 1: Like I said, given they didn't have Job, that didn't
Speaker 1: have a Desmond May. You know, Job was chirping on
Speaker 1: the bench. You know that that's his game. They do
Speaker 1: a lot of talking. But that's that's who they are,
Speaker 1: That's who that team is. But the Laker was able
Speaker 1: to keep their focus and win a ball game. Then
Speaker 1: they could have easily lost. Maybe I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1: Last year when they play they have that lead for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. Oh Joe, and I've been watching the Lakers
Speaker 1: since Lebron got there. It's always that third quarter where
Speaker 1: they slip walk coming out the first six or seven
Speaker 1: minutes of the ball game and the next thing you
Speaker 1: know they might have a lead, the lead is gone,
Speaker 1: or if a team, if it's a close game, the
Speaker 1: team puts separation.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. And it does not
Speaker 4: matter who's the coach.
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at the Lakers being Vogel,
Speaker 1: be It, Luke, Walton, be at Darren Ham and now JJ,
Speaker 1: that third quarter for some reason they sleepwalk.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen when it comes to the game of basketball,
Speaker 5: whether it be the Lakers or not, regards to who's
Speaker 5: coaching a basketball team.
Speaker 4: What I've come to learn in my short tenure is
Speaker 4: being a basketball.
Speaker 5: Savant, is that the game of basketball is about runs.
Speaker 5: It's a game of runs. No matter how much you
Speaker 5: extend to lead. For some reason, no matter what, that
Speaker 5: lead always shrinks significantly when another team gets in rhythm,
Speaker 5: gets in rhythm and they have their run. Then at
Speaker 5: some point in the third, maybe the fourth quarter, then
Speaker 5: the game becomes a game where the games are somewhat
Speaker 5: even very seldom is it just a blowout. And you
Speaker 5: get a lead, you extended lead or in early in
Speaker 5: the game, and you just blow them type, blow the
Speaker 5: game out out the water the entirety of the game.
Speaker 5: For some reason, the opposing team the three point shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, the Lakers got up forty one,
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies got up thirty three. The Celtics shoot forty fifties,
Speaker 1: almost sixty three a night. So when you get in
Speaker 1: a situation and you got teams that can make twenty
Speaker 1: five twenty nine threes, yeah right, No, leaders say because
Speaker 1: you turn the ball, you miss a couple of shots,
Speaker 1: or you turn the ball over and the team could
Speaker 1: easily go on their next five possessions, hit four to three,
Speaker 1: to the two, and a twenty point lead all of
Speaker 1: a sudden is a seven point lead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, normally, teams, I mean, look, they were all
Speaker 1: they've always been big comebacks things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: it seems to me now with the way these teams
Speaker 1: can shoot the basketball, that a twenty point lead in
Speaker 1: the first quarter.
Speaker 2: I mean I saw the.
Speaker 1: Oh just the other night, the Spurs had like a
Speaker 1: twenty something point leading the first quarter on the Clippers,
Speaker 1: and by the third quarter the Clippers had done called
Speaker 1: him and had a ten point lead and ended up
Speaker 1: winning the game. So, yeah, it is. It's always been
Speaker 1: a game of runs. But now with that three point
Speaker 1: shot and team's ability to have multiple guys on the
Speaker 1: court that can shoot, Yeah, there's there's really no lead
Speaker 1: that's really safe. Yeah, but I I look, this has
Speaker 1: been basically the same roster that they had last year.
Speaker 1: So for Darvin ham to excuse me, for JJ Reddick
Speaker 1: to get this kind of production, ad is playing off
Speaker 1: the chart statistically. He's playing his best balls of his career.
Speaker 1: Lebron is Lebron, lebron Is Lebron all reeves. Now that
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to guard the best player, you know,
Speaker 1: the best backcourt player, he has some energy to give
Speaker 1: you something. Now, Cam Reddish is not the guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna give you. He's a defensive guy. He's a wing defender,
Speaker 1: and anything that he gives you offensively you greatly accept.
Speaker 1: But you just want to make sure that you limit
Speaker 1: the backcourt guys. You don't let him get his average.
Speaker 1: If you can hold a guy from his average, give
Speaker 1: us some limited production. Cam Reddish has done his job.
Speaker 1: Now d Low, you come in and you get your
Speaker 1: fifteen points coming off the bench. I thought Dalk connect
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Think five to five from the three, seven
Speaker 1: of eight from the free throw. From the field, he
Speaker 1: had nineteen big points. He had the highest plus minus.
Speaker 1: He was plus seventeen. You can't complain about that. Coloco
Speaker 1: gave you four points, gave you a couple of rebounds.
Speaker 1: D Low gave you eight points. Gave Vinson for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: gave Vinson hadn't found this stroke was I remember when
Speaker 1: he was in Miami.
Speaker 2: D every time he shot the ball it seemed like
Speaker 2: it was going in on end.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden he was all six from
Speaker 1: the floor, all four from from the three, got thirteen.
Speaker 4: Minutes of cardio. In listening, bright lights and bright light's different.
Speaker 5: Now, I know Miami is Miami, but the bright light's
Speaker 5: different over there in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Expectations are different.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, most definitely. You're playing alongside Lebron.
Speaker 1: The ball is still weigh the same, the rim is
Speaker 1: still the depth, reception is absolutely the same. It's just
Speaker 1: a different level of expectations and you're playing alongside a
Speaker 1: historically great player.
Speaker 2: And people.
Speaker 4: It does matter.
Speaker 1: You know, you know who's the ball, you know what's expected.
Speaker 1: But the Lakers hold on to win the ball game
Speaker 1: to one twenty three to remain undefeated at home and
Speaker 1: moved to seven and four on the regular season. The
Speaker 1: Lakers have this that Bronnie James will play in the
Speaker 1: G League home games, but will not travel with the
Speaker 1: team during the road games. Browny will be with the
Speaker 1: Lakers during road games. Brian Winhorse doesn't think that's a
Speaker 1: good idea. I'm going to apply the brakes on everything.
Speaker 1: It's fine on Bronnie front, with the things that's now happening.
Speaker 1: He's only he's only he's only gonna kind of be
Speaker 1: a part time G League player, and he's not getting
Speaker 1: on the United air lines and going to fly and
Speaker 1: go play these road games.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know he was getting so much special treatment and nepotism,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, Honestly, I don't care. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's normal. Now, I think it's actually detrimental to him.
Speaker 1: I don't know whose idea was obviously with the Lakers
Speaker 1: are fine with it. They're doing it. On this particular instance,
Speaker 1: I think you've gone too far. I don't think it
Speaker 1: benefits Bronnie. I don't think it benefits South Bay Lakers.
Speaker 1: I don't think it benefits Lebron at this point. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be better if Bronnie played more developmental player
Speaker 1: by February of March by playing in the G League
Speaker 1: road games.
Speaker 2: O Joe, what you think?
Speaker 5: I think whoever had the idea and using Bronnie the
Speaker 5: way he is for its development, I think they would
Speaker 5: know a little bit more than whoever.
Speaker 4: Else has anything to say about it.
Speaker 5: They understand what Bronni needs to do to get bring
Speaker 5: himself along, to be a contributor and to get better
Speaker 5: at his game so he can play, you know, at
Speaker 5: the highest level.
Speaker 4: Everyone is going to have their opinion on the matter.
Speaker 5: But I think those who have been doing it for
Speaker 5: a long time, that actually played the game and that
Speaker 5: or actually played.
Speaker 4: Listen. This is something lebron has probably signed off on.
Speaker 4: This is something probably.
Speaker 5: Bronnie and and other advisors that are in positions of
Speaker 5: power have thought was the best thing for him to do,
Speaker 5: you know, to play, to play in the home games,
Speaker 5: not to fly with the Lakers on the road, and
Speaker 5: that's how they saw it fit.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure why that would be an issue with
Speaker 4: anyone else.
Speaker 1: Because how did you get better fitting on the bench
Speaker 1: at Laker games? He needs to play, You said he's playing.
Speaker 1: You said players don't get better sitting on the bench.
Speaker 1: So why is Briannie getting better sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: based on what you said?
Speaker 5: He just they just said he's playing in the South
Speaker 5: Bay Lakers home games.
Speaker 1: But they played road games, so when he so so
Speaker 1: when they go on the road, he doesn't. He gets
Speaker 1: nothing out of there. So you just go sit on
Speaker 1: the bench and watch watch the Lakers at home.
Speaker 5: Listen that that's That wasn't my decision.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just basing.
Speaker 4: He's playing the home game.
Speaker 1: You said players don't get better sitting on the bench,
Speaker 1: being basketball or football, I'm asking you, now, how does
Speaker 1: Bronie get better when he's only playing part time.
Speaker 2: And the other half the time he's sitting on the bench.
Speaker 5: You really can't do the comparison when you talk about
Speaker 5: football and basketball because he's still playing. When you get
Speaker 5: Benson football, you're not touching the field at all.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no practice. But you're practicing right right.
Speaker 5: But again, he's playing in the home games for the
Speaker 5: South Bay Lakers.
Speaker 4: He's not being you would know better than me. I'm
Speaker 4: not a.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that cop out on me telling about I
Speaker 1: would know better? Does a guy get better played? So
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. So if a football
Speaker 1: player he only played home games but he didn't play
Speaker 1: on the road, he's getting better.
Speaker 2: Hunh.
Speaker 4: Come on, you can't know now you know you can't
Speaker 4: compare him. God damn sports. Now come on that. Don't
Speaker 4: do me like that.
Speaker 1: You get playing. I thought you'd get better by playing.
Speaker 1: We just had the conversation about Scotty fifth and Jr.
Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing. He was fitting on the bench.
Speaker 1: Look at him now when he's getting an opportunity to play,
Speaker 1: to play, versus him fitting on the bench coming in spot.
Speaker 5: I like what you just said, But the keywords you
Speaker 5: said about Scotty Vivinjia on the reason why he wasn't
Speaker 5: playing where he was because other people needed to handle
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 2: What difference does it make it?
Speaker 5: Why Fish he had to be in a place where
Speaker 5: he could touched the ball and be a part of
Speaker 5: the team.
Speaker 1: So so what is Briddy? So what about Briddy? Doesn't
Speaker 1: he need to be a place to play.
Speaker 4: Right, So you would want it to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I want him to be a play
Speaker 1: I don't get the benefit of him playing part time
Speaker 1: and the other time sitting on the bench.
Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: You get better, You get better at doing something by
Speaker 1: doing something right, not doing it part time. What occupation
Speaker 1: allows you to do something part time and you become
Speaker 1: great at it?
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good question. That's a good question.
Speaker 5: But the fact that he is playing, the fact that
Speaker 5: he is very very young, the fact that they think
Speaker 5: he's not come along far enough where he can be
Speaker 5: a part of the active roster when the Lakers play
Speaker 5: and go on and play at home and play on
Speaker 5: the road games, allowing him develop in this way that
Speaker 5: they that they see fit. You know, I have somebody
Speaker 5: agree with it, some don't. The fact that he is playing.
Speaker 5: They're trying to bring him along slow. That's the only
Speaker 5: thing I can think of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but look, there're I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of expectations. He's not a frot
Speaker 1: top ten pit. But I just think him in the
Speaker 1: fifty fifth pick in the draft, I'll just think that
Speaker 1: playing at and getting and handling the ball and going
Speaker 1: up against competition and working on your craft. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you work on your craft part time and
Speaker 1: become great at it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't understand how.
Speaker 5: M Yeah, I understand what you mean. I totally understand
Speaker 5: what you mean. I don't understand. I kind of get
Speaker 5: where they may be coming from on their end. But listen, people, people,
Speaker 5: folks had to sign off on this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we know they did. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 5: To sign up on this, and they don't. They don't
Speaker 5: want him playing, playing full time. Why they don't, I
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know what they're I don't know
Speaker 5: what the blueprint. I don't know what the idea is
Speaker 5: behind it. But it's something that many many obviously probably
Speaker 5: wouldn't agree with. This is something that doesn't normally happen though, right, No,
Speaker 5: So it's either you play for the home team or
Speaker 5: you play for the g A.
Speaker 1: Lot of times they put you on a two way contract.
Speaker 1: That means you're down there and you're playing. You know
Speaker 1: you're playing, and sometimes they need you to call you up, right,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a situation you played the G league
Speaker 1: games and if somebody gets it, they'll call you up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like baseball. I mean I think it would be
Speaker 1: odd like minor league games. Baseball player. Okay, you play
Speaker 1: the home game, but when when they travel, you don't play.
Speaker 1: You just come sit up on the bench. In the majors. Nah,
Speaker 1: you need a bass, you need swings.
Speaker 4: You think maybe maybe maybe listen, I could be reaching it.
Speaker 4: Do you think maybe they're protecting him from something games?
Speaker 1: No, he needs he just needs to play. I mean
Speaker 1: you protect him by me, you're not I don't I
Speaker 1: me personally. I don't think you're helping him by having
Speaker 1: him sit on the bench. I don't really know how
Speaker 1: much you can. I mean, look, I get it, but
Speaker 1: in that situation, I think you're in basketball. You definitely
Speaker 1: need to have the ball in your hands. You need
Speaker 1: to be doing things on the court. You need to
Speaker 1: be playing. I don't know the benefit of you because
Speaker 1: it's not like basket. It's not like football, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: because you know we do practice during the course of
Speaker 1: the week. I mean, shoot a round really ain't no practice.
Speaker 1: I mean you shoot a round, you go over a
Speaker 1: couple of plays, you watch some film. I think he
Speaker 1: needs to be an actual game like situation in order
Speaker 1: for him to get better. But hey, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it plays over the next twenty three years and see
Speaker 1: if this was the right way for him to develop.
Speaker 1: Janni's Anta Takunpo the Greek Freak, scored fifty nine points
Speaker 1: in the Bucks one twenty seven one twenty win over
Speaker 1: the Piston. It was a league high points this year
Speaker 1: by player and the second highest single game total for
Speaker 1: Janni's He outscored the Pistons by himself in overtime, scored
Speaker 1: eleven points to their nine, and he's the first Bucks
Speaker 1: player to go five for five or better in a
Speaker 1: single overtime period since play by play was first track
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six ninety seven. Tonight marks Janni's ninth
Speaker 1: career game in which he scored fifty points and ten rebounds,
Speaker 1: the third most in NBA history. Well, nobody is ever
Speaker 1: ever ever catching Will Chamberlain. Will Chamberlain has a total
Speaker 1: of one hundred and eighteen games in which he scored
Speaker 1: fifty points and has ten rebounds. The next closest is
Speaker 1: el Jem Baylor, who's one hundred and two games behind him.
Speaker 1: El Jim Baylor has sixteen such games. Giannis is now
Speaker 1: in third place with nine. You would never guess who's
Speaker 1: in fourth place? Who that There are four guys tied.
Speaker 1: James Harden, James Harden, Joel and b Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan are all tied with eight such games
Speaker 1: fifty points and ten rebounds.
Speaker 2: Two guards are on the list.
Speaker 1: Nobody's surprised that Will Chamblain I could have told you
Speaker 1: how to be like any time to have something to
Speaker 1: do with fifties? Will take Will right, anything you got
Speaker 1: to do with sixties? Take Will anything he got something
Speaker 1: to do with seventies. Take Will anything he got anything
Speaker 1: to do with forties. Take Will you want to anything
Speaker 1: when he comes to score? Take Will and you're probably
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna be right. But tonight Janni's Ato had
Speaker 1: a fifty ten game. If I'm not mistaken, I was
Speaker 1: watching the game. I think he had twenty two points
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. His teammates had two, The Pistons
Speaker 1: had twenty seven. Maybe you know what.
Speaker 5: O, Joey, can he get some help though we can help?
Speaker 1: Yanna Dame was out tonight. And maybe it's just me,
Speaker 1: but I've watched these games. I've watched them play. Janni's
Speaker 1: plays better when Dame's not in the lineup. Dame plays
Speaker 1: better when Jannis is not in the lineup. But that's
Speaker 1: not a good thing because they need to play great
Speaker 1: together in order for them to reach their ultimate destination.
Speaker 1: And people like well, they only been together for a
Speaker 1: little while. Janni's is not going to wait a round
Speaker 1: for them to develop chemistry. They better figure this thing out.
Speaker 5: Well, actually, they've already had a full season. The develop chemistry,
Speaker 5: the chemistry, the honeymoon phase is over. Yeah, they should
Speaker 5: know each other very well. He should be opening the
Speaker 5: car door, man, don't get me started. The chemistry should
Speaker 5: already be there.
Speaker 4: It's the game.
Speaker 5: That's the game of basketball. It's only five people on
Speaker 5: the goddamn court. It ain't eleven, ain't It should be
Speaker 5: a well oiled machine. After all this time, he had
Speaker 5: a training camp, you had a mini camp. I don't
Speaker 5: know how many god damn camps they probably go through.
Speaker 5: And you've already had a full season. So at this
Speaker 5: point in year two, were two players of that caliber
Speaker 5: that are that good.
Speaker 4: They should be able to mesh well together.
Speaker 5: Not okay, you not playing tonight and you go off
Speaker 5: for whatever whatever points it may be, okay, Johannis not
Speaker 5: playing it tonight and Dame goes crazy like you just
Speaker 5: got you guys, gon say I have to be on
Speaker 5: the same page on the same night and be just
Speaker 5: as deficient.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand why one would play better when
Speaker 4: the other isn't playing. That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two superstar players. You would think they would
Speaker 1: be really really great in the pick and roll. Well,
Speaker 1: they're okay in to pick and roll because Giannis is
Speaker 1: not a picking pop player.
Speaker 2: It's not like he got a mid range game. He doesn't.
Speaker 4: Wait, his mid range has gotten a lot better than.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a mid range game. Basically, Jannie is
Speaker 1: getting the ball and he's trying to go down the hill.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back you out, and he's gonna try
Speaker 1: to find a way to euro step here and get
Speaker 1: down the hill. He doesn't he doesn't like to play
Speaker 1: with his back to the basket. He doesn't like to
Speaker 1: shoot the mid range shot. He doesn't like to fall away.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get to the basket. He's gonna try
Speaker 1: to up and under you, he's gonna try to dunk
Speaker 1: on you, or he's trying to go over the wall
Speaker 1: and get to the lane. So if like he's not
Speaker 1: like a d Ad can pick and pop, ad can
Speaker 1: roll to the basket. Ad can picking pop. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can dribble drive, you can dribble, hand off with it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that you can do
Speaker 1: with a guy like an Ad Joel and b big
Speaker 1: guys that can shoot.
Speaker 2: That's not what Joanna see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can have a hot stretch here or there
Speaker 1: where he making the mid range shot, but that's really
Speaker 1: not what he wants to do. But tonight he was
Speaker 1: twenty one and forty four. He was one of two
Speaker 1: on threes. He shot seventeen free throws. He was sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen from the free throw line. He had a
Speaker 1: fourteen rebound, seven or sists, two steals, three blocks, only
Speaker 1: had three turtles. Played forty four minutes. He was great
Speaker 1: and he had to be Brook Lopez nine of seventeen,
Speaker 1: five of eight, six of eight for the he had
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Torrion Prince kept there with fifteen Gary Trent Junior,
Speaker 1: and you would think I think the thing is like
Speaker 1: when you got young, when you got Dame, a guy
Speaker 1: that can shoot the ball. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: what they're missing his own ball defender. They really messed
Speaker 1: up where they let Holliday go because he was their
Speaker 1: best perimeter to defender.
Speaker 5: Hey, I ain't even I can be honest with you.
Speaker 5: I can be honest with you. I ain't know Drew
Speaker 5: Holliday was that damn good and valuable? Oh yeah, And
Speaker 5: you never understand how good a player is until they
Speaker 5: leave a certain situation and they play with somebody else.
Speaker 5: Now you understand their true value and the struggles on
Speaker 5: why the Bucks are struggling in a certain.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Ojo, we just look at the stat what a
Speaker 1: guy is a twenty and ten guy, or the guy
Speaker 1: does this or that. But Drew Holliday does so many
Speaker 1: other things. He's normally taken the best player from the
Speaker 1: opposing team, especially if he's probably a three, a three
Speaker 1: to two or point. He's taking them. And now you
Speaker 1: got Derek White, who's also an elite defender. You got
Speaker 1: a big al who can protect the paint. You got
Speaker 1: prezingers who can protect the paint. And now you got JT.
Speaker 1: And JB that doesn't have to exert nearly as much energy,
Speaker 1: taking guys that can go get thirty, you know, thirty
Speaker 1: twenty five, thirty thirty five points. So now you got
Speaker 1: two guys, you got two defenders, you got two guys
Speaker 1: that can protect the paint, and now you've got the
Speaker 1: scores that have energy to go score the basketball. I
Speaker 1: just like I said, I've watched him for a year.
Speaker 1: I know Joanna's got hurt, missing time last year, Dame
Speaker 1: got nicked. He's out right now dealing with I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what he's dealing with. But watching them play over
Speaker 1: the course of last year to this year, those guys
Speaker 1: do play better separate than they play together.
Speaker 4: Okay, we need to go to a Bucks game too,
Speaker 4: then you get Corseites.
Speaker 1: John has made every basket for the Milwaukee in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, hit his seven to ten field goal attempts
Speaker 1: and all three of his free throws. He had twenty
Speaker 1: two of the team's twenty four points. Oh jo The
Speaker 1: Calves continue the undefeated season. They beat the Sixers one
Speaker 1: fourteen to one O six no Joel Ebid no PG
Speaker 1: sat out due to load management. Damn Joel Ebid just
Speaker 1: got back but hey, he needed to manage it. Calves
Speaker 1: became the six team in NBA history to start the
Speaker 1: season thirteen and ozerho of the previous five teams to
Speaker 1: start thirteen and oh four made the NBA titles won
Speaker 1: the NBA excuse me one four made the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: but only one, the nineteen ninety three ninety four Houston Rockets,
Speaker 1: won the title. The record, if I'm not mistaken, is
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, who started the season in twenty fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: twenty four. And oh hey, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Have a question. Do you personally have a problem with
Speaker 4: embiid taking nights off?
Speaker 5: Understanding his situation, his injury history, the fact, his size,
Speaker 5: his weight.
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, how do you how do you feel thatah?
Speaker 1: I mean, and they just gave him a three year,
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety three million dollar extension.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that means you do have a problem.
Speaker 1: I got a problem with a guy not playing absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The fans have a problem with it too.
Speaker 5: Right, right, even with understanding of why he has to
Speaker 5: have load management based on you know what.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't been. Shouldn't they be able to lose manager check?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean damn, I mean.
Speaker 4: It got down.
Speaker 1: The guy missed the first nine games of the season,
Speaker 1: he comes back playing the game, and now he's out again.
Speaker 4: Damn, that was a good one. I I.
Speaker 1: Just I look, look, this is this is this is
Speaker 1: the problem that you're gonna have with him.
Speaker 4: He had.
Speaker 1: He had an injury history when you drafted him. He's
Speaker 1: twenty one. He had injury history at twenty. Right, what
Speaker 1: happens as he starts to age? Do you think do
Speaker 1: you think people get lighter? Do athletes get lighter as
Speaker 1: the age or do they get heavier and then compound
Speaker 1: the injury history.
Speaker 4: That they already have. Mm hmm, you're right.
Speaker 1: Because if you look at it, Uh, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: other than Pop.
Speaker 2: What team is load managed and won the title?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, speaking of Pop, right, Spurs won the title?
Speaker 5: Who was the player that was being loaded managed in
Speaker 5: at that time?
Speaker 1: But then you do it all the time, Tim Duncan,
Speaker 1: that would send and Tony Parker and Manu and then
Speaker 1: you know Kawhi came in and they did the same
Speaker 1: well Kawhi, but then you know they thought Kawhi was
Speaker 1: faking his injury and he wasn't. And so you know
Speaker 1: that thing, that's why he ended up being out of Uh,
Speaker 1: that's why he ended up getting traded out of San Antonio.
Speaker 1: It's just like I get it.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: It's just I think the thing is the questions. You
Speaker 1: were always going to have this question, even when his
Speaker 1: career is over, what if? Because we seen Joel and
Speaker 1: b when he when he's playing, ain't nothing like him.
Speaker 2: He he's seven five, three point thirty, can shoot the three.
Speaker 1: We've never seen a man his size his weight can
Speaker 1: shoot the three ball, put the ball on the floor,
Speaker 1: mid range, can finish, go and put it on the floor,
Speaker 1: get all the way to the ring. You could run
Speaker 1: anything with him. You can run dribble, drive, dribble, hand
Speaker 1: aff picking pop ain't know. I mean offensively, he has
Speaker 1: no weakness and he's a damn good defender, right, just
Speaker 1: can't get healthy. He just a big ass. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a big ass man that had injuries as a
Speaker 1: as a as a young man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exacerbated as he started the age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wish y'all could give you a
Speaker 1: best and I'm trying to tell y'all, I mean, god,
Speaker 1: normally big young guys have problem as big men.
Speaker 2: Zion. He's hurt again. Ham string.
Speaker 4: He got, he gotta lose. He gotta lose some of
Speaker 4: some of that weight on.
Speaker 1: My thing is is that when you try to tell
Speaker 1: people that, oh, y'all picking on him. He played, he'd
Speaker 1: been that side of his whole life.
Speaker 4: He has.
Speaker 5: He been playing NBA basketball his whole life. Different the
Speaker 5: type of energy you have to exert the highest. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's always been the best. He's always been the best player.
Speaker 5: When high school he was the best player. In college,
Speaker 5: he was the best player. He steps on the court
Speaker 5: every night. He is not the best player. All those
Speaker 5: guys are really good. All those guys, you know, there
Speaker 5: are a lot of guys that he played against high
Speaker 5: school that didn't go to college. There's a lot of
Speaker 5: guys that he played against in college that didn't go
Speaker 5: to the NBA. Every guy that he plays steps on
Speaker 5: the court with or is in the NBA. So it
Speaker 5: takes a different level in order you to for you
Speaker 5: to perform. He could probably go in high school, probably
Speaker 5: go seventy percent, drop thirtycause he was.
Speaker 1: So much better than everybody else. In college, he was
Speaker 1: better than everybody else. Nah, Bro it takes. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot. And that's what you know, your chip y.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't like Broun, you don't like that
Speaker 1: he made the decision, you don't like anything about it,
Speaker 1: you gotta take your damn head off.
Speaker 2: The man's played twenty two.
Speaker 4: Years and and most and give it and.
Speaker 1: Get and give it and get and give you the
Speaker 1: performances that he's given you time and time again.
Speaker 2: Jordan, you know he wasn't gonna teat you, Kobe. There
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna cheach you.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like, that's like I said, I think now oo,
Speaker 1: I've already come to the conclusion we're not gonna see
Speaker 1: the guys in today's game. For whatever reason. Play eighty
Speaker 1: two games is not a badge of honor for them.
Speaker 1: It used to be bad eighty two. I got me
Speaker 1: eighty two of these things. I played every single game.
Speaker 1: It's just like baseball baseball to days, and we seeing
Speaker 1: these pictures pitch like, you know, five man rotations mm hmm, right,
Speaker 1: because basically they go everybody's going five minutes. Maybe you
Speaker 1: go six complete games. Somebody throw a complete game. Hell,
Speaker 1: they running on sports Center. They running on Sports Center,
Speaker 1: like five or six times because it's such an anomaly.
Speaker 1: Now you got guys you don't want to see go
Speaker 1: through the fourth time through the life up, so you
Speaker 1: might make it three times through the lineup. After that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull it. And now they go riding rdy.
Speaker 1: They go left and left, and you go set up.
Speaker 1: You go to the bull, you get into your bullpend
Speaker 1: at the sixteen. I mean, you look at the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers bringing our guys to face one guy, Oh god,
Speaker 1: you're good. You gonna okay, you come out, you left it.
Speaker 1: They got two left and you face both of them.
Speaker 4: You gonna.
Speaker 2: That's where it is now.
Speaker 1: The days that you're seeing the Nolan rise and you're
Speaker 1: seeing those guys, you know, Randy Johnson sad, it ain't.
Speaker 4: Happening no more.
Speaker 1: If not, it's not and know and and the thing
Speaker 1: is I because I when you when you when you
Speaker 1: see a talent like Joel and B, all you wanted
Speaker 1: to do is maximize that talent because you realize what
Speaker 1: you're watching, You understand just how great it is. But
Speaker 1: unfortunately I'm not I'm we're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: see Joel and B at his best because the injuries
Speaker 1: won't allow it.
Speaker 2: We won't see it. We won't see it consistently. We've
Speaker 2: seen it. Oh, we know, we know what it can be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said consistently. Okay, I see what you mean.
Speaker 2: Night in and night out, night in and night out.
Speaker 4: I mean, has it?
Speaker 5: Has there ever been a big man of that size
Speaker 5: that can do the things that he does on the court.
Speaker 1: No, that's why Kareem was able to play as long
Speaker 1: as he did. Seek.
Speaker 2: What did he do? Kareem stretched, Kareem managed his wait.
Speaker 1: Kareem probably damning the same size as he was when
Speaker 1: he played as a seventy four, seventy five year old man.
Speaker 4: You got it different. He had a different frame though, frame, So.
Speaker 2: What should it?
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, if you're a big kid, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a big ass man.
Speaker 2: What's the likelihood?
Speaker 1: And you coming into the league at a three hundred
Speaker 1: pound man in the NBA, you go out in the.
Speaker 2: League of a three hundred pounds man.
Speaker 4: Now you a Lebron invests in his body.
Speaker 1: He made a decision that you know, I want to
Speaker 1: play as long as I possibly can, and these are
Speaker 1: the steps I need to take. Tom Brady says, I
Speaker 1: want to play as long as Like Tom Brady said
Speaker 1: way back when he wanted to play until he was fifty,
Speaker 1: we thought.
Speaker 4: He was crazy. Oh he meant that, but he did that.
Speaker 2: The steps.
Speaker 1: You can't wait till you get the year ten, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I want to play. No, if you hadn't
Speaker 1: taken those steps, if you haven't watched what you eat,
Speaker 1: and you hadn't cleaned up your diet, you haven't done
Speaker 1: the thing physios and pets and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Hyperbag chain, but cold tubs ain't happening.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 5: When you talk about the steps, you talk about the
Speaker 5: steps of people that are of normal size.
Speaker 4: What steps can God damn Joel and b take that?
Speaker 5: That can promise and guarantee that he can play in
Speaker 5: the eighty two games consistently.
Speaker 1: Ain't no guarantee. But without a died in proper training,
Speaker 1: ain't no chance of it happening. You see, people think
Speaker 1: hard work guarantees you something. It doesn't guarantee you anything.
Speaker 1: But I can assure you this. Without it, you got
Speaker 1: no chance. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you got it, You
Speaker 1: got it. Oh Joe, you gotta realize that's a big
Speaker 1: man and you're asking him to run up and down
Speaker 1: the court, jump up and down, continuous, not in and
Speaker 1: not out. Do you know how much that is? Think
Speaker 1: about how, oh Jo, Think about how your knees and
Speaker 1: your ankles felt you one hundred and eighty five pound
Speaker 1: man planting cutting?
Speaker 5: Don't do that right, Don't cut me short, don't cut
Speaker 5: off all my hallwork. I didn't been in the gym now,
Speaker 5: I didn't got myself. Goddamn to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: You to twenty seven when you played. I'm saying, think
Speaker 1: about how you fell all that plant and cutting. Now,
Speaker 1: imagine before they had turf, when they had turf, and
Speaker 1: they didn't have grands so they didn't have this field turf.
Speaker 2: What your knees felt like.
Speaker 1: Now, imagine that I'm gonna put another hundred I would
Speaker 1: put no, you know what, I would put two one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds on you, on me, on you,
Speaker 1: and asked you.
Speaker 4: To do that same thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure how that how that would have worked,
Speaker 5: But the fact that historically big men haven't fared well
Speaker 5: at that size in the NBA, I thought people would
Speaker 5: be a little bit more lenient with with Joel Joel
Speaker 5: Embiid and understanding why he's having a load's management instead
Speaker 5: of him actually playing night in and night out and
Speaker 5: then being out for the entirety of a season and
Speaker 5: missing more time again as opposed to being load managing
Speaker 5: his body understanding he can only do so much throughout
Speaker 5: in a two game season.
Speaker 1: Well, if you know you're heavy, what must you do
Speaker 1: manage your Wait? Yeah, eat properly? So do you think
Speaker 1: you can he can eat whatever he wants?
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe he does. Maybe he has a nutritionist. Maybe
Speaker 5: he does some of the things we hear about him.
Speaker 5: You know, eat McDonald's liking burger.
Speaker 2: Don't hear about it. You see it. He was probably camera.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that he's changed at this point in his career.
Speaker 4: I guess. I'm sure it has.
Speaker 5: I'm sure the other team of people know that that
Speaker 5: do everything they can around the clock to make sure
Speaker 5: he can be healthy and be on the court and
Speaker 5: be available.
Speaker 1: Okay U prayers going for Greg. Papa Bitch Pop suffered
Speaker 1: what team called a milestroke on November second. The Spurs
Speaker 1: said Pop has started rehabilitation a rehabilitation program and is
Speaker 1: expected to make a full recovery. Damn yeah, man, that's tough.
Speaker 1: My grandmother had one of those, and I mean she
Speaker 1: got pet for like a couple of weeks. Like I said, see,
Speaker 1: physical therapy for a professional is something entirely different because
Speaker 1: he's going every day. He's going multiple times a day
Speaker 1: as opposed to average person. They get to a week.
Speaker 1: But you're only getting that for what you getting twenty sessions,
Speaker 1: So you're probably get you go to to a week
Speaker 1: for ten weeks.
Speaker 2: You get twenty sessions. That's it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll write you another script for another for another
Speaker 1: eight sessions, which is another four weeks.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Damn, that's it. Pop probably getting it twice a day
Speaker 1: every day. That's why athletes here so so much quicker
Speaker 1: than the general population, not only because you know, the
Speaker 1: muscles and the things are stronger, but the therapy that
Speaker 1: we received versus what you guys received is something entirely different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I got like, damn, he's back already.
Speaker 2: What you say, hit back? Yeah, yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's why you see Adrian Peterson able to come back
Speaker 1: in six seven months and do what he did. Rod
Speaker 1: Woodson had acl surgery and played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: People forget about that.
Speaker 4: He might he must say have a full tear.
Speaker 2: Huh full tear played in the Super Bowl. What the hell?
Speaker 4: Okay? Vibranium Jared Rice.
Speaker 1: Jared Rice tore his acl of the first game and
Speaker 1: played late in the season. Yeah coat two touchdowns and
Speaker 1: get r up, go look it up. That's crazy, but Pop, hey, man, Bro,
Speaker 1: we played. Praying for you, Thowton, prayers for the Nightcap
Speaker 1: family goes out to the San Antonio Spurs and Greg
Speaker 1: Papa Bitch and his family. Thought and prayers to all
Speaker 1: the the friends in San Antonio, all Greg Papovich family,
Speaker 1: friends and loved ones that loves and cares about Pop.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: The Nightcap crew over here were praying for you, Bro.
Speaker 1: Get well soon. Want to see you back on the court.
Speaker 1: Not talking to reporters. Victor wim Benyama big going a
Speaker 1: career high fifty points, including a career high eight three
Speaker 1: porters and a one thirty nine win over the Wizards.
Speaker 1: At twenty years, three hundred and fourteen days. Wim ben
Speaker 1: Yama is the fourth youngest player to score fifty points
Speaker 1: at seven foot four. He's also the tallest to do it,
Speaker 1: the youngest player to do it with Brandon Jennings. He
Speaker 1: did it at twenty years fifty two days. Lebron James
Speaker 1: is the second oldest, he did it at twenty years
Speaker 1: eighty days. Devin Booker was the third, he did it
Speaker 1: at twenty years, one hundred and forty five days. Victor
Speaker 1: wimen Yama did it at twenty years, three hundred and
Speaker 1: fourteen days, and Lebron did it again on December tenth,
Speaker 1: two over two thousand and five at twenty years, three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five days.
Speaker 4: So a womby, but Wimby is special for sure. How
Speaker 4: many times?
Speaker 5: How many times have we seen somebody that young that
Speaker 5: can put the ball on the floor, create his own shot,
Speaker 5: run the pick and roll from distance at he got
Speaker 5: a three point shot, he got a mid rain.
Speaker 4: But where the fuck is the weakness?
Speaker 2: No, it's not it's not that his age, is his size.
Speaker 1: We've never seen somebody that size seven foot four and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, that can put the ball on the floor,
Speaker 1: like you said, can shoot the three ball, plays outstanding defense.
Speaker 1: We've never seen anybody his size his skill in the
Speaker 1: history of the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most most guys.
Speaker 5: When you think about people that that that tall, un
Speaker 5: you know, they're very I don't know if I'm saying
Speaker 5: it's right, they're very lethargic.
Speaker 4: The way that they move is very god damn how
Speaker 4: do you say it?
Speaker 1: Man? They move like Zach Edy, they move like rest
Speaker 1: and Sould Mark Eaton. They move like rest is Sould
Speaker 1: Sean Bradley Manu bowl guys like that? What's the bowball?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know what?
Speaker 5: The best thing I can think about it People that
Speaker 5: height and that size are not twitty.
Speaker 4: No, Thata Wemby is twitty.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you can can face you up putting the
Speaker 2: ball on the floor, cross.
Speaker 5: You up like goddamn ai and go to the basket
Speaker 5: at seven four?
Speaker 1: Why would you want God to get the man everything?
Speaker 1: So you want God to make somebody seven foot five?
Speaker 1: Give him fast twitch fiber?
Speaker 4: What day you got it?
Speaker 2: Can got it.
Speaker 4: Special?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah he can? He can pass the ball? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that what I've been
Speaker 1: most impressed when I hear him talk is that he
Speaker 1: wants to be great and he takes this and he
Speaker 1: wants to take the steps necessary. Because a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about being great, but do you understand the
Speaker 1: steps that it takes in order for you to be great?
Speaker 1: So you just don't roll out of bed one morning
Speaker 1: say you know what, I think, I'll be great, be
Speaker 1: great today. Now you live that every single day, every
Speaker 1: single day. What you do, how you approach the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen that people talk, what they are saying.
Speaker 1: What is everybody said about Lebron the steps first then last,
Speaker 1: to leave, shooting, getting the shots up, call to hot,
Speaker 1: tough Phisio this that hyperbaric chamber stem everything.
Speaker 2: What you hear about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, discipline, no shortcuts, no shortcuts.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, people foe when they get that money.
Speaker 2: Now oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Sometimes people fold and they just going through the motions
Speaker 5: once they get that money.
Speaker 2: That's what I didn't under That's what I understand is that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My thing was when I got the big payday, I
Speaker 1: want to I wanted you to show within a year
Speaker 1: or two I was underpaid. I wanted to get to
Speaker 1: the I was like, well, y'all just gave me this man, please,
Speaker 1: I'm finish. Go I'm finish, Go get the next bag.
Speaker 1: And with basketball players think about it. Jason Tatum making
Speaker 1: three twenty three, thirty dude, Jason Tatum twenty six. His
Speaker 1: next contract gonna probably be four hundred million. That man's
Speaker 1: gonna make a billion dollars just in basketball.
Speaker 5: No endorsement, just basketball, right, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So I never got Apple because I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Guys get the bag and then they don't train, they
Speaker 1: don't do what they did in order to get that.
Speaker 1: Nah bro, you gotta be you gotta be hungry. I
Speaker 1: see they keeps it. I think I said. Mark Eaton
Speaker 1: is deceased, right, Sean Bradley, I think got paralyzed in
Speaker 1: an ad He got paralyzed in a bike accident. Mark
Speaker 1: Eaton got run over on a bike, correct, I know, Sean,
Speaker 1: I know Sean Bradley got paralyzed. I think he was
Speaker 1: riding the bicycle, got he got ran over the bike.
Speaker 1: Both of them, Mark got ran over the bike. Sickle
Speaker 1: two m yeah, both of them. In Utah. I I
Speaker 1: thought I remember reading that while ago, Mark Eaton was
Speaker 1: a tall guy with a defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: for the Utah Jazz play the number of years with
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. He was an All An All Star
Speaker 1: on the bike in Utah, got ran over, got killed.
Speaker 1: Sean Bradley from you Mormon, got ran over the bike,
Speaker 1: got paralyzed.
Speaker 4: What's going on over there with the face.
Speaker 2: Huh, bro, look at it. That's why I stopped riding.
Speaker 2: Unless you unless you on.
Speaker 1: A trail bicycles, but you on the street right and
Speaker 1: you know people people don't take you know, look they they.
Speaker 2: Damn pay attention.
Speaker 1: No, and uh, you know, and it doesn't take much
Speaker 1: for you to go down on that bike. They hit
Speaker 1: that backyard. You're on the ground, you're up under the car.
Speaker 1: You don't see, you don't anticipate how fast that car
Speaker 1: is going, and it's upon you before you know it, boom.
Speaker 1: And like I said, that's why I stay. That's why
Speaker 1: I started riding on Joe. I started. I actually stopped
Speaker 1: riding my bike because I used to ride there. I
Speaker 1: would always try to get up early in the morning,
Speaker 1: try to get out before the traffic got bad. And
Speaker 1: we had a couple of parties. We go out, We
Speaker 1: go thirty miles riding through the city of Atlanta. But
Speaker 1: it just got to the point it just was. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't And I rode a lot, especially when I
Speaker 1: played right, but it just I just like, no, it's
Speaker 1: not even worth it if I can't get to a Now.
Speaker 1: Colorado is very conducive because you can got trails, and
Speaker 1: you can go from Denver all the way to Colorado
Speaker 1: Springs and you go up the boulder and never coming
Speaker 1: ready to come in contact with a with a vehicle.
Speaker 2: But in the streets like.
Speaker 1: Like Atlanta, and I see people riding in la and
Speaker 1: Hell now especially now the way the traffic is in Atlanta. Nah, nah,
Speaker 1: you just you just asking for trouble. So I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Joe Carmelo anths says he wanted to leave the game
Speaker 1: because of basketball after a young player called him up.
Speaker 1: We're playing in Denver. This is the first time I
Speaker 1: played in Denmer in a long time. I go back.
Speaker 1: Michael Porter's guarded me. I catch it on him quick,
Speaker 1: right elbow, just like that catch it post quick, jabb
Speaker 1: go left lay up. He's like, damn, uh, I ain't
Speaker 1: know you still had that.
Speaker 4: Hey man, Mellow, Mellow, Melotle, funny man.
Speaker 5: I just did I think I think I just did
Speaker 5: a podcast of Mellow and Rudy Gay uh huh uh
Speaker 5: last week. I really enjoyed that hearing their stories, uh,
Speaker 5: some of their basketball stories, some of the things that
Speaker 5: they've been through to get, you know, get to the
Speaker 5: point and when they knew they were at the end,
Speaker 5: you know, of their of their career.
Speaker 4: So man, that that was very very, very very enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: And uh, damn when it you think about it, if
Speaker 5: you watch when you watch watch Mellow highlights, Man Mellow
Speaker 5: one of the greatest scores of all time, one of
Speaker 5: the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 4: And it was dope just to be in his presence.
Speaker 5: And obviously Rudy Gay is Rudy Gay is very good
Speaker 5: at his craft as well. So just being in their
Speaker 5: presence and talking sports and and what it took, you know,
Speaker 5: for us to get where we got to, and how
Speaker 5: our past were all different, but the end goal was
Speaker 5: all the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, that was dope. That was dope.
Speaker 1: The things that I noticed as I know my time
Speaker 1: was I just couldn't give it to you like I
Speaker 1: once could. Yeah, I could put the games together. When
Speaker 1: I was in my prime, I could give you games.
Speaker 1: I can give you one hundred and one hundred and
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety and eighty. As I started to
Speaker 1: get older, my mind said, oh yeah, oh by right, right.
Speaker 4: Right right, but the body can't do it.
Speaker 2: I can have that one big game.
Speaker 1: Hence In my thirteenth year, I broke the NFL record
Speaker 1: for most receiving yards in the game by tight end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it?
Speaker 4: Fifteen or seventeen?
Speaker 2: I was that was your That was your thirteen for me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? How many the catch?
Speaker 2: I had twelve for two fourteen?
Speaker 4: Whoa but cooking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you cook it out. But and I ended up
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a special year because I felt
Speaker 1: ooh oh Joe, I had I man had got. I
Speaker 1: got with a speed coach I did. I started to
Speaker 1: train differently. My body looked different. I felt so good.
Speaker 1: I knew this was gonna be a special year. You
Speaker 1: was like to man, yeah, I felt good.
Speaker 4: You grab your bett, you grabbed your light? Is that year?
Speaker 1: I always know? The thing was, o Joe. My body
Speaker 1: was different. I always I always came into camp at
Speaker 1: two thirty two. That was my reporting weight. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to be thirty two. Even though as I started
Speaker 1: to get older, Mike was like, look, you can come
Speaker 1: in if you want to come into thirty five, thirty six.
Speaker 2: I said no. I wanted the pressure to know I
Speaker 2: had to be at this weight.
Speaker 1: Even as I got older, I still wanted that I
Speaker 1: still needed to focus. They're like, okay, you got to
Speaker 1: be at this waight and so but as I started
Speaker 1: to get older, oh Joe, I just I just couldn't
Speaker 1: give it to him back to back like that. And uh,
Speaker 1: I could have a big game and then I have
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: I go thirty forty and a lot of that. You know,
Speaker 1: Rod had started to become Rod was the focal part
Speaker 1: of the offense.
Speaker 2: That was cool too.
Speaker 1: But I found myself as I watched myself and I
Speaker 1: go back and look at us, like yeah, because now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I didn't have that same I
Speaker 1: didn't have that same ability to run through tackles right
Speaker 1: the least looked I mean things the guy I would
Speaker 1: the guys like when I was in my prime, got
Speaker 1: hit my clip my foot, I would stumble and still
Speaker 1: go and still go get your first down, got hit
Speaker 1: my foot, I get two yards. I ain't have the
Speaker 1: same balance. But but but but I knew, oh yo,
Speaker 1: you know you don't you know? Guys, No, guess like
Speaker 1: I ain't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah you do? You know? If you on our team,
Speaker 2: you to know because I have told you.
Speaker 5: And one thing about it when when it comes to us,
Speaker 5: we won't be honest with ourselves until we actually see
Speaker 5: it on film. And you never know until you see
Speaker 5: it on film, because your mind is telling you doing
Speaker 5: it right, but your body ain't doing it until you
Speaker 5: watch it.
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to see a bad old y'all.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was watching myself in practice
Speaker 1: on practice tape and uh.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, h I was like, damn, somebody moving
Speaker 2: real slowly.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: That think that camera turned around? He had on eighty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, no, I said, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 4: about time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's about time for me to.
Speaker 4: To the house.
Speaker 2: But like I said, you know, hey, my second hold on.
Speaker 2: I think it was my.
Speaker 1: Game thirteen fourteen fifty no game fourteen because we had
Speaker 1: two games left. I was offensive player of the week,
Speaker 1: went for three touchdowns, cost seven po Buco won.
Speaker 2: Three tones against San Diego.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 1: We played Cleveland, we won that game. I think I
Speaker 1: had okay numbers. Green Bay we didn't play because we
Speaker 1: had everything already clinch So my last year old show,
Speaker 1: I had like seven hundred and seventy yards, eight touchdowns
Speaker 1: and you know porters ran for sixteen hundred yards, so
Speaker 1: we were a running team. So it's like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I still could play, but I just like man and
Speaker 1: those who are good. If you go back and look
Speaker 1: at my numbers where they ranked among the tight end,
Speaker 1: I think I was like second or third at no
Speaker 1: worse than four and god, wait, way younger than me.
Speaker 2: But that's just what me. Oh Joe, right, yeah, I
Speaker 2: had to accept that.
Speaker 4: Like, man, I'm.
Speaker 5: Damn yeah, just don't look right, it ain't it ain't
Speaker 5: what you're used to. No, the coming coming to grips
Speaker 5: of reality and understanding your body can't do it anymore,
Speaker 5: but your mind can.
Speaker 4: That's one of the worst.
Speaker 1: Mind the mind willing the body you're unable. Hell, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I mean by he.
Speaker 2: In my mind, man, I'm more than enough man for
Speaker 2: a woman.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but the body said, Shawny, you're not quite
Speaker 1: good enough for two though.
Speaker 2: You gotta understand that, don't ya. Hey, I think I'm more.
Speaker 1: Than enough for a woman, right right, I'm not nearly
Speaker 1: enough for two though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, mabe, it's just that's going the volume