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Speaker 1: Cho the game we just ended the Lakers defeat the

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Speaker 1: Grizzlies to one twenty three. Lebron James became the oldest

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Speaker 1: because he had three straight triple doubles. I think he

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Speaker 1: triple doubles. Thirty five points, twelve rebounds, fourteen assists, and

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Speaker 1: they needed every single point, every single rebound, every single assist.

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Speaker 1: But you got to tip your hat to the Grizzly

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Speaker 2: When you watch the game on what you think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoyed it up and down the field

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Speaker 5: out without John morons it. They played very well in

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Speaker 5: Because of the way they played, because of how you

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Speaker 2: He was huge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he had quarter threes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, to kind of extend that lead a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Outside that, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And one

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Speaker 5: just starting, and as I continue to learn the game

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Speaker 5: of basketball, I think we need to sit courtside. I

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Speaker 5: think we need to we need to sit courtside so

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Speaker 5: you can teach me the game better. And I think

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Speaker 5: I'm a visual learner. It'd be perfect. So you take

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Speaker 1: Probably I can put your touch with the guy that

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, I want to talk. No, guys,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk to you. I need you sit next

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Speaker 2: So I know what them court side ticket costs, bro, and.

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Speaker 4: I know you got it. That ain't nothing to a

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Speaker 1: Just like I'll sit court side if there's not a

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Speaker 1: It's hard for you to sit court side and watch

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Speaker 1: So that's the main reason why I don't go to games.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have an opportunity to go to games,

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Speaker 1: When I look at the game on Joe, you look

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Speaker 1: that's what really hurt them because normally the Lakers, you

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Speaker 2: You was terrible from the free throw line. You was

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Speaker 1: You got to be from Lebron was five of eight,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need to make those free throws. You need

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Speaker 1: Co Loco played good off the bench. D Low struggling

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Speaker 1: a little bit tonight. Gabe Vincent hadn't found this stroke yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know he's been a starter basically

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Speaker 4: Minutes of cardio. In listening, bright lights and bright light's different.

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Speaker 5: Now, I know Miami is Miami, but the bright light's

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Speaker 1: You know, you know who's the ball, you know what's expected.

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Speaker 1: I know he was getting so much special treatment and nepotism,

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Speaker 2: O Joe, what you think?

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Speaker 5: I think whoever had the idea and using Bronnie the

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Speaker 5: They understand what Bronni needs to do to get bring

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Speaker 4: Everyone is going to have their opinion on the matter.

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Speaker 5: But I think those who have been doing it for

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Speaker 1: Because how did you get better fitting on the bench

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Speaker 1: You said players don't get better sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 5: He just they just said he's playing in the South

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Speaker 5: Listen that that's That wasn't my decision.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just basing.

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Speaker 4: He's playing the home game.

439
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Speaker 1: You said players don't get better sitting on the bench,

440
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Speaker 1: being basketball or football, I'm asking you, now, how does

441
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 1: Bronie get better when he's only playing part time.

442
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 2: And the other half the time he's sitting on the bench.

443
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Speaker 5: You really can't do the comparison when you talk about

444
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 5: football and basketball because he's still playing. When you get

445
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 5: Benson football, you're not touching the field at all.

446
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no practice. But you're practicing right right.

447
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 5: But again, he's playing in the home games for the

448
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 5: South Bay Lakers.

449
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 4: He's not being you would know better than me. I'm

450
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 4: not a.

451
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Speaker 2: Don't do that.

452
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: Don't do that cop out on me telling about I

453
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 1: would know better? Does a guy get better played? So

454
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. So if a football

455
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: player he only played home games but he didn't play

456
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Speaker 1: on the road, he's getting better.

457
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Speaker 2: Hunh.

458
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Speaker 4: Come on, you can't know now you know you can't

459
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 4: compare him. God damn sports. Now come on that. Don't

460
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Speaker 4: do me like that.

461
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: You get playing. I thought you'd get better by playing.

462
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: We just had the conversation about Scotty fifth and Jr.

463
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing. He was fitting on the bench.

464
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: Look at him now when he's getting an opportunity to play,

465
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: to play, versus him fitting on the bench coming in spot.

466
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Speaker 5: I like what you just said, But the keywords you

467
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 5: said about Scotty Vivinjia on the reason why he wasn't

468
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 5: playing where he was because other people needed to handle

469
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Speaker 5: the ball.

470
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Speaker 2: What difference does it make it?

471
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Speaker 5: Why Fish he had to be in a place where

472
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Speaker 5: he could touched the ball and be a part of

473
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Speaker 5: the team.

474
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Speaker 1: So so what is Briddy? So what about Briddy? Doesn't

475
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: he need to be a place to play.

476
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Speaker 4: Right, So you would want it to be somewhere else.

477
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I want him to be a play

478
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't get the benefit of him playing part time

479
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: and the other time sitting on the bench.

480
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me.

481
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: You get better, You get better at doing something by

482
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: doing something right, not doing it part time. What occupation

483
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: allows you to do something part time and you become

484
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: great at it?

485
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good question. That's a good question.

486
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Speaker 5: But the fact that he is playing, the fact that

487
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: he is very very young, the fact that they think

488
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 5: he's not come along far enough where he can be

489
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 5: a part of the active roster when the Lakers play

490
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: and go on and play at home and play on

491
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 5: the road games, allowing him develop in this way that

492
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 5: they that they see fit. You know, I have somebody

493
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 5: agree with it, some don't. The fact that he is playing.

494
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: They're trying to bring him along slow. That's the only

495
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 5: thing I can think of.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but look, there're I mean, I didn't

497
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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of expectations. He's not a frot

498
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Speaker 1: top ten pit. But I just think him in the

499
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: fifty fifth pick in the draft, I'll just think that

500
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: playing at and getting and handling the ball and going

501
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: up against competition and working on your craft. I don't

502
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: know how you work on your craft part time and

503
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Speaker 1: become great at it.

504
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Speaker 2: Now.

505
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm just saying

506
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Speaker 1: I don't understand how.

507
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Speaker 5: M Yeah, I understand what you mean. I totally understand

508
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 5: what you mean. I don't understand. I kind of get

509
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 5: where they may be coming from on their end. But listen, people, people,

510
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: folks had to sign off on this.

511
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we know they did. Oh yeah, for sure,

512
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Speaker 2: I mean.

513
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Speaker 5: To sign up on this, and they don't. They don't

514
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: want him playing, playing full time. Why they don't, I

515
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know what they're I don't know

516
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Speaker 5: what the blueprint. I don't know what the idea is

517
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: behind it. But it's something that many many obviously probably

518
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 5: wouldn't agree with. This is something that doesn't normally happen though, right, No,

519
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 5: So it's either you play for the home team or

520
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: you play for the g A.

521
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Speaker 1: Lot of times they put you on a two way contract.

522
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: That means you're down there and you're playing. You know

523
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: you're playing, and sometimes they need you to call you up, right,

524
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's a situation you played the G league

525
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: games and if somebody gets it, they'll call you up. Yeah,

526
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: it's like baseball. I mean I think it would be

527
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: odd like minor league games. Baseball player. Okay, you play

528
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: the home game, but when when they travel, you don't play.

529
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Speaker 1: You just come sit up on the bench. In the majors. Nah,

530
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: you need a bass, you need swings.

531
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Speaker 4: You think maybe maybe maybe listen, I could be reaching it.

532
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: Do you think maybe they're protecting him from something games?

533
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Speaker 1: No, he needs he just needs to play. I mean

534
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Speaker 1: you protect him by me, you're not I don't I

535
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: me personally. I don't think you're helping him by having

536
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Speaker 1: him sit on the bench. I don't really know how

537
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: much you can. I mean, look, I get it, but

538
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: in that situation, I think you're in basketball. You definitely

539
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: need to have the ball in your hands. You need

540
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: to be doing things on the court. You need to

541
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: be playing. I don't know the benefit of you because

542
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: it's not like basket. It's not like football, oh Joe,

543
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: because you know we do practice during the course of

544
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: the week. I mean, shoot a round really ain't no practice.

545
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: I mean you shoot a round, you go over a

546
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: couple of plays, you watch some film. I think he

547
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: needs to be an actual game like situation in order

548
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: for him to get better. But hey, we'll see how

549
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: it plays over the next twenty three years and see

550
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: if this was the right way for him to develop.

551
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: Janni's Anta Takunpo the Greek Freak, scored fifty nine points

552
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: in the Bucks one twenty seven one twenty win over

553
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: the Piston. It was a league high points this year

554
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: by player and the second highest single game total for

555
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Janni's He outscored the Pistons by himself in overtime, scored

556
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: eleven points to their nine, and he's the first Bucks

557
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: player to go five for five or better in a

558
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: single overtime period since play by play was first track

559
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six ninety seven. Tonight marks Janni's ninth

560
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: career game in which he scored fifty points and ten rebounds,

561
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: the third most in NBA history. Well, nobody is ever

562
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: ever ever catching Will Chamberlain. Will Chamberlain has a total

563
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: of one hundred and eighteen games in which he scored

564
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: fifty points and has ten rebounds. The next closest is

565
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Speaker 1: el Jem Baylor, who's one hundred and two games behind him.

566
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: El Jim Baylor has sixteen such games. Giannis is now

567
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: in third place with nine. You would never guess who's

568
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: in fourth place? Who that There are four guys tied.

569
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: James Harden, James Harden, Joel and b Kareem Abdul Jabbar

570
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan are all tied with eight such games

571
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Speaker 1: fifty points and ten rebounds.

572
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: Two guards are on the list.

573
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Speaker 1: Nobody's surprised that Will Chamblain I could have told you

574
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: how to be like any time to have something to

575
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: do with fifties? Will take Will right, anything you got

576
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: to do with sixties? Take Will anything he got something

577
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: to do with seventies. Take Will anything he got anything

578
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: to do with forties. Take Will you want to anything

579
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: when he comes to score? Take Will and you're probably

580
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna be right. But tonight Janni's Ato had

581
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: a fifty ten game. If I'm not mistaken, I was

582
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: watching the game. I think he had twenty two points

583
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. His teammates had two, The Pistons

584
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: had twenty seven. Maybe you know what.

585
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: O, Joey, can he get some help though we can help?

586
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Yanna Dame was out tonight. And maybe it's just me,

587
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: but I've watched these games. I've watched them play. Janni's

588
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: plays better when Dame's not in the lineup. Dame plays

589
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: better when Jannis is not in the lineup. But that's

590
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: not a good thing because they need to play great

591
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: together in order for them to reach their ultimate destination.

592
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: And people like well, they only been together for a

593
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: little while. Janni's is not going to wait a round

594
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: for them to develop chemistry. They better figure this thing out.

595
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: Well, actually, they've already had a full season. The develop chemistry,

596
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: the chemistry, the honeymoon phase is over. Yeah, they should

597
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: know each other very well. He should be opening the

598
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 5: car door, man, don't get me started. The chemistry should

599
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 5: already be there.

600
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: It's the game.

601
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 5: That's the game of basketball. It's only five people on

602
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 5: the goddamn court. It ain't eleven, ain't It should be

603
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 5: a well oiled machine. After all this time, he had

604
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: a training camp, you had a mini camp. I don't

605
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 5: know how many god damn camps they probably go through.

606
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 5: And you've already had a full season. So at this

607
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: point in year two, were two players of that caliber

608
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: that are that good.

609
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: They should be able to mesh well together.

610
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: Not okay, you not playing tonight and you go off

611
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: for whatever whatever points it may be, okay, Johannis not

612
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 5: playing it tonight and Dame goes crazy like you just

613
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: got you guys, gon say I have to be on

614
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: the same page on the same night and be just

615
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: as deficient.

616
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand why one would play better when

617
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: the other isn't playing. That makes no sense to me.

618
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two superstar players. You would think they would

619
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: be really really great in the pick and roll. Well,

620
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: they're okay in to pick and roll because Giannis is

621
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: not a picking pop player.

622
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: It's not like he got a mid range game. He doesn't.

623
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: Wait, his mid range has gotten a lot better than.

624
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a mid range game. Basically, Jannie is

625
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: getting the ball and he's trying to go down the hill.

626
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back you out, and he's gonna try

627
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: to find a way to euro step here and get

628
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: down the hill. He doesn't he doesn't like to play

629
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: with his back to the basket. He doesn't like to

630
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: shoot the mid range shot. He doesn't like to fall away.

631
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: He's trying to get to the basket. He's gonna try

632
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: to up and under you, he's gonna try to dunk

633
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: on you, or he's trying to go over the wall

634
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: and get to the lane. So if like he's not

635
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: like a d Ad can pick and pop, ad can

636
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: roll to the basket. Ad can picking pop. Okay, you

637
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: can dribble drive, you can dribble, hand off with it.

638
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that you can do

639
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: with a guy like an Ad Joel and b big

640
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: guys that can shoot.

641
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: That's not what Joanna see.

642
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can have a hot stretch here or there

643
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: where he making the mid range shot, but that's really

644
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: not what he wants to do. But tonight he was

645
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: twenty one and forty four. He was one of two

646
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: on threes. He shot seventeen free throws. He was sixteen

647
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: or seventeen from the free throw line. He had a

648
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: fourteen rebound, seven or sists, two steals, three blocks, only

649
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: had three turtles. Played forty four minutes. He was great

650
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: and he had to be Brook Lopez nine of seventeen,

651
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: five of eight, six of eight for the he had

652
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Torrion Prince kept there with fifteen Gary Trent Junior,

653
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: and you would think I think the thing is like

654
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: when you got young, when you got Dame, a guy

655
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Speaker 1: that can shoot the ball. I think a lot of

656
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: what they're missing his own ball defender. They really messed

657
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: up where they let Holliday go because he was their

658
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: best perimeter to defender.

659
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: Hey, I ain't even I can be honest with you.

660
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: I can be honest with you. I ain't know Drew

661
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: Holliday was that damn good and valuable? Oh yeah, And

662
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 5: you never understand how good a player is until they

663
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: leave a certain situation and they play with somebody else.

664
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Speaker 5: Now you understand their true value and the struggles on

665
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Speaker 5: why the Bucks are struggling in a certain.

666
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes Ojo, we just look at the stat what a

667
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: guy is a twenty and ten guy, or the guy

668
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: does this or that. But Drew Holliday does so many

669
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: other things. He's normally taken the best player from the

670
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: opposing team, especially if he's probably a three, a three

671
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: to two or point. He's taking them. And now you

672
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: got Derek White, who's also an elite defender. You got

673
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: a big al who can protect the paint. You got

674
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: prezingers who can protect the paint. And now you got JT.

675
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: And JB that doesn't have to exert nearly as much energy,

676
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: taking guys that can go get thirty, you know, thirty

677
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: twenty five, thirty thirty five points. So now you got

678
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: two guys, you got two defenders, you got two guys

679
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: that can protect the paint, and now you've got the

680
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: scores that have energy to go score the basketball. I

681
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: just like I said, I've watched him for a year.

682
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: I know Joanna's got hurt, missing time last year, Dame

683
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: got nicked. He's out right now dealing with I'm not

684
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: sure what he's dealing with. But watching them play over

685
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: the course of last year to this year, those guys

686
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: do play better separate than they play together.

687
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: Okay, we need to go to a Bucks game too,

688
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: then you get Corseites.

689
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: John has made every basket for the Milwaukee in the

690
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: first quarter, hit his seven to ten field goal attempts

691
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: and all three of his free throws. He had twenty

692
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: two of the team's twenty four points. Oh jo The

693
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: Calves continue the undefeated season. They beat the Sixers one

694
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: fourteen to one O six no Joel Ebid no PG

695
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: sat out due to load management. Damn Joel Ebid just

696
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: got back but hey, he needed to manage it. Calves

697
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: became the six team in NBA history to start the

698
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: season thirteen and ozerho of the previous five teams to

699
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: start thirteen and oh four made the NBA titles won

700
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: the NBA excuse me one four made the NBA Finals,

701
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: but only one, the nineteen ninety three ninety four Houston Rockets,

702
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: won the title. The record, if I'm not mistaken, is

703
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, who started the season in twenty fifteen, sixteen,

704
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: twenty four. And oh hey, yeah, I.

705
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Have a question. Do you personally have a problem with

706
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: embiid taking nights off?

707
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 5: Understanding his situation, his injury history, the fact, his size,

708
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: his weight.

709
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, how do you how do you feel thatah?

710
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and they just gave him a three year,

711
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety three million dollar extension.

712
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so that means you do have a problem.

713
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: I got a problem with a guy not playing absolutely, Yeah.

714
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: The fans have a problem with it too.

715
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: Right, right, even with understanding of why he has to

716
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: have load management based on you know what.

717
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: It shouldn't been. Shouldn't they be able to lose manager check?

718
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean damn, I mean.

719
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: It got down.

720
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: The guy missed the first nine games of the season,

721
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: he comes back playing the game, and now he's out again.

722
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: Damn, that was a good one. I I.

723
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Just I look, look, this is this is this is

724
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: the problem that you're gonna have with him.

725
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: He had.

726
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: He had an injury history when you drafted him. He's

727
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: twenty one. He had injury history at twenty. Right, what

728
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: happens as he starts to age? Do you think do

729
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: you think people get lighter? Do athletes get lighter as

730
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: the age or do they get heavier and then compound

731
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: the injury history.

732
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: That they already have. Mm hmm, you're right.

733
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Because if you look at it, Uh, I'm trying to

734
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: other than Pop.

735
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: What team is load managed and won the title?

736
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: Hey?

737
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, speaking of Pop, right, Spurs won the title?

738
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: Who was the player that was being loaded managed in

739
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: at that time?

740
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: But then you do it all the time, Tim Duncan,

741
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: that would send and Tony Parker and Manu and then

742
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: you know Kawhi came in and they did the same

743
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: well Kawhi, but then you know they thought Kawhi was

744
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: faking his injury and he wasn't. And so you know

745
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: that thing, that's why he ended up being out of Uh,

746
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: that's why he ended up getting traded out of San Antonio.

747
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: It's just like I get it.

748
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: It's just.

749
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: It's just I think the thing is the questions. You

750
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: were always going to have this question, even when his

751
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: career is over, what if? Because we seen Joel and

752
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: b when he when he's playing, ain't nothing like him.

753
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: He he's seven five, three point thirty, can shoot the three.

754
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: We've never seen a man his size his weight can

755
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: shoot the three ball, put the ball on the floor,

756
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: mid range, can finish, go and put it on the floor,

757
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: get all the way to the ring. You could run

758
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: anything with him. You can run dribble, drive, dribble, hand

759
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: aff picking pop ain't know. I mean offensively, he has

760
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: no weakness and he's a damn good defender, right, just

761
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: can't get healthy. He just a big ass. He's a

762
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: he's a big ass man that had injuries as a

763
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: as a as a young man.

764
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exacerbated as he started the age.

765
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wish y'all could give you a

766
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: best and I'm trying to tell y'all, I mean, god,

767
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: normally big young guys have problem as big men.

768
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: Zion. He's hurt again. Ham string.

769
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: He got, he gotta lose. He gotta lose some of

770
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: some of that weight on.

771
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: My thing is is that when you try to tell

772
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: people that, oh, y'all picking on him. He played, he'd

773
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: been that side of his whole life.

774
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: He has.

775
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 5: He been playing NBA basketball his whole life. Different the

776
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: type of energy you have to exert the highest. Yeah,

777
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: he's always been the best. He's always been the best player.

778
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: When high school he was the best player. In college,

779
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 5: he was the best player. He steps on the court

780
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: every night. He is not the best player. All those

781
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 5: guys are really good. All those guys, you know, there

782
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 5: are a lot of guys that he played against high

783
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: school that didn't go to college. There's a lot of

784
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 5: guys that he played against in college that didn't go

785
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 5: to the NBA. Every guy that he plays steps on

786
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 5: the court with or is in the NBA. So it

787
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 5: takes a different level in order you to for you

788
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: to perform. He could probably go in high school, probably

789
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 5: go seventy percent, drop thirtycause he was.

790
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: So much better than everybody else. In college, he was

791
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: better than everybody else. Nah, Bro it takes. It takes

792
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: a lot. And that's what you know, your chip y.

793
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: Even if you don't like Broun, you don't like that

794
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: he made the decision, you don't like anything about it,

795
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: you gotta take your damn head off.

796
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: The man's played twenty two.

797
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: Years and and most and give it and.

798
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: Get and give it and get and give you the

799
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: performances that he's given you time and time again.

800
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: Jordan, you know he wasn't gonna teat you, Kobe. There

801
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna cheach you.

802
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Hey, Like, that's like I said, I think now oo,

803
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I've already come to the conclusion we're not gonna see

804
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: the guys in today's game. For whatever reason. Play eighty

805
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: two games is not a badge of honor for them.

806
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: It used to be bad eighty two. I got me

807
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: eighty two of these things. I played every single game.

808
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: It's just like baseball baseball to days, and we seeing

809
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: these pictures pitch like, you know, five man rotations mm hmm, right,

810
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: because basically they go everybody's going five minutes. Maybe you

811
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: go six complete games. Somebody throw a complete game. Hell,

812
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: they running on sports Center. They running on Sports Center,

813
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: like five or six times because it's such an anomaly.

814
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Now you got guys you don't want to see go

815
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: through the fourth time through the life up, so you

816
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: might make it three times through the lineup. After that,

817
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull it. And now they go riding rdy.

818
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: They go left and left, and you go set up.

819
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: You go to the bull, you get into your bullpend

820
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: at the sixteen. I mean, you look at the Dodgers,

821
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers bringing our guys to face one guy, Oh god,

822
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: you're good. You gonna okay, you come out, you left it.

823
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: They got two left and you face both of them.

824
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: You gonna.

825
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: That's where it is now.

826
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: The days that you're seeing the Nolan rise and you're

827
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: seeing those guys, you know, Randy Johnson sad, it ain't.

828
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: Happening no more.

829
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: If not, it's not and know and and the thing

830
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: is I because I when you when you when you

831
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: see a talent like Joel and B, all you wanted

832
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: to do is maximize that talent because you realize what

833
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: you're watching, You understand just how great it is. But

834
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately I'm not I'm we're not gonna be able to

835
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: see Joel and B at his best because the injuries

836
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: won't allow it.

837
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: We won't see it. We won't see it consistently. We've

838
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: seen it. Oh, we know, we know what it can be.

839
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said consistently. Okay, I see what you mean.

840
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Night in and night out, night in and night out.

841
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, has it?

842
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 5: Has there ever been a big man of that size

843
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 5: that can do the things that he does on the court.

844
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: No, that's why Kareem was able to play as long

845
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: as he did. Seek.

846
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: What did he do? Kareem stretched, Kareem managed his wait.

847
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Kareem probably damning the same size as he was when

848
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: he played as a seventy four, seventy five year old man.

849
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: You got it different. He had a different frame though, frame, So.

850
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: What should it?

851
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, if you're a big kid, you're gonna be

852
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: a big ass man.

853
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: What's the likelihood?

854
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: And you coming into the league at a three hundred

855
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: pound man in the NBA, you go out in the.

856
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: League of a three hundred pounds man.

857
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: Now you a Lebron invests in his body.

858
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: He made a decision that you know, I want to

859
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: play as long as I possibly can, and these are

860
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the steps I need to take. Tom Brady says, I

861
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: want to play as long as Like Tom Brady said

862
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: way back when he wanted to play until he was fifty,

863
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: we thought.

864
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: He was crazy. Oh he meant that, but he did that.

865
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: The steps.

866
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: You can't wait till you get the year ten, like,

867
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: oh man, I want to play. No, if you hadn't

868
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: taken those steps, if you haven't watched what you eat,

869
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: and you hadn't cleaned up your diet, you haven't done

870
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: the thing physios and pets and all that stuff.

871
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Hyperbag chain, but cold tubs ain't happening.

872
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on.

873
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: When you talk about the steps, you talk about the

874
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: steps of people that are of normal size.

875
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 4: What steps can God damn Joel and b take that?

876
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: That can promise and guarantee that he can play in

877
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: the eighty two games consistently.

878
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Ain't no guarantee. But without a died in proper training,

879
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: ain't no chance of it happening. You see, people think

880
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: hard work guarantees you something. It doesn't guarantee you anything.

881
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: But I can assure you this. Without it, you got

882
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: no chance. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you got it, You

883
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: got it. Oh Joe, you gotta realize that's a big

884
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: man and you're asking him to run up and down

885
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: the court, jump up and down, continuous, not in and

886
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: not out. Do you know how much that is? Think

887
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: about how, oh Jo, Think about how your knees and

888
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: your ankles felt you one hundred and eighty five pound

889
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: man planting cutting?

890
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 5: Don't do that right, Don't cut me short, don't cut

891
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 5: off all my hallwork. I didn't been in the gym now,

892
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 5: I didn't got myself. Goddamn to twenty seven.

893
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: You to twenty seven when you played. I'm saying, think

894
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: about how you fell all that plant and cutting. Now,

895
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: imagine before they had turf, when they had turf, and

896
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: they didn't have grands so they didn't have this field turf.

897
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: What your knees felt like.

898
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: Now, imagine that I'm gonna put another hundred I would

899
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: put no, you know what, I would put two one

900
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds on you, on me, on you,

901
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: and asked you.

902
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 4: To do that same thing.

903
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure how that how that would have worked,

904
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 5: But the fact that historically big men haven't fared well

905
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: at that size in the NBA, I thought people would

906
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: be a little bit more lenient with with Joel Joel

907
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: Embiid and understanding why he's having a load's management instead

908
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 5: of him actually playing night in and night out and

909
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: then being out for the entirety of a season and

910
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 5: missing more time again as opposed to being load managing

911
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: his body understanding he can only do so much throughout

912
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: in a two game season.

913
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Well, if you know you're heavy, what must you do

914
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: manage your Wait? Yeah, eat properly? So do you think

915
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: you can he can eat whatever he wants?

916
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe he does. Maybe he has a nutritionist. Maybe

917
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: he does some of the things we hear about him.

918
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: You know, eat McDonald's liking burger.

919
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: Don't hear about it. You see it. He was probably camera.

920
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure that he's changed at this point in his career.

921
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: I guess. I'm sure it has.

922
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure the other team of people know that that

923
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 5: do everything they can around the clock to make sure

924
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 5: he can be healthy and be on the court and

925
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 5: be available.

926
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay U prayers going for Greg. Papa Bitch Pop suffered

927
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: what team called a milestroke on November second. The Spurs

928
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: said Pop has started rehabilitation a rehabilitation program and is

929
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: expected to make a full recovery. Damn yeah, man, that's tough.

930
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: My grandmother had one of those, and I mean she

931
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: got pet for like a couple of weeks. Like I said, see,

932
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: physical therapy for a professional is something entirely different because

933
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: he's going every day. He's going multiple times a day

934
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to average person. They get to a week.

935
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: But you're only getting that for what you getting twenty sessions,

936
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: So you're probably get you go to to a week

937
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: for ten weeks.

938
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: You get twenty sessions. That's it.

939
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll write you another script for another for another

940
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: eight sessions, which is another four weeks.

941
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: That's it.

942
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: Damn, that's it. Pop probably getting it twice a day

943
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: every day. That's why athletes here so so much quicker

944
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: than the general population, not only because you know, the

945
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: muscles and the things are stronger, but the therapy that

946
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: we received versus what you guys received is something entirely different. Yeah,

947
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: that's why I got like, damn, he's back already.

948
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: What you say, hit back? Yeah, yeah, mm hmm.

949
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: That's why you see Adrian Peterson able to come back

950
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: in six seven months and do what he did. Rod

951
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Woodson had acl surgery and played in the Super Bowl.

952
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: People forget about that.

953
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 4: He might he must say have a full tear.

954
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: Huh full tear played in the Super Bowl. What the hell?

955
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: Okay? Vibranium Jared Rice.

956
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: Jared Rice tore his acl of the first game and

957
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: played late in the season. Yeah coat two touchdowns and

958
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: get r up, go look it up. That's crazy, but Pop, hey, man, Bro,

959
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: we played. Praying for you, Thowton, prayers for the Nightcap

960
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: family goes out to the San Antonio Spurs and Greg

961
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: Papa Bitch and his family. Thought and prayers to all

962
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: the the friends in San Antonio, all Greg Papovich family,

963
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: friends and loved ones that loves and cares about Pop.

964
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: Hey.

965
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: The Nightcap crew over here were praying for you, Bro.

966
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Get well soon. Want to see you back on the court.

967
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: Not talking to reporters. Victor wim Benyama big going a

968
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: career high fifty points, including a career high eight three

969
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: porters and a one thirty nine win over the Wizards.

970
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: At twenty years, three hundred and fourteen days. Wim ben

971
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: Yama is the fourth youngest player to score fifty points

972
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: at seven foot four. He's also the tallest to do it,

973
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: the youngest player to do it with Brandon Jennings. He

974
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: did it at twenty years fifty two days. Lebron James

975
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: is the second oldest, he did it at twenty years

976
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: eighty days. Devin Booker was the third, he did it

977
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: at twenty years, one hundred and forty five days. Victor

978
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: wimen Yama did it at twenty years, three hundred and

979
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: fourteen days, and Lebron did it again on December tenth,

980
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: two over two thousand and five at twenty years, three

981
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five days.

982
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: So a womby, but Wimby is special for sure. How

983
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 4: many times?

984
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: How many times have we seen somebody that young that

985
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: can put the ball on the floor, create his own shot,

986
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 5: run the pick and roll from distance at he got

987
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 5: a three point shot, he got a mid rain.

988
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: But where the fuck is the weakness?

989
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: No, it's not it's not that his age, is his size.

990
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: We've never seen somebody that size seven foot four and

991
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, that can put the ball on the floor,

992
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: like you said, can shoot the three ball, plays outstanding defense.

993
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: We've never seen anybody his size his skill in the

994
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: history of the game.

995
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean most most guys.

996
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 5: When you think about people that that that tall, un

997
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 5: you know, they're very I don't know if I'm saying

998
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 5: it's right, they're very lethargic.

999
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: The way that they move is very god damn how

1000
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: do you say it?

1001
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: Man? They move like Zach Edy, they move like rest

1002
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: and Sould Mark Eaton. They move like rest is Sould

1003
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Sean Bradley Manu bowl guys like that? What's the bowball?

1004
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know what?

1005
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: The best thing I can think about it People that

1006
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 5: height and that size are not twitty.

1007
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: No, Thata Wemby is twitty.

1008
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you can can face you up putting the

1009
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: ball on the floor, cross.

1010
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 5: You up like goddamn ai and go to the basket

1011
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: at seven four?

1012
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Why would you want God to get the man everything?

1013
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: So you want God to make somebody seven foot five?

1014
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: Give him fast twitch fiber?

1015
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: What day you got it?

1016
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: Can got it.

1017
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: Special?

1018
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean yeah he can? He can pass the ball? Yeah.

1019
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that what I've been

1020
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: most impressed when I hear him talk is that he

1021
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: wants to be great and he takes this and he

1022
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: wants to take the steps necessary. Because a lot of

1023
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: people talk about being great, but do you understand the

1024
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: steps that it takes in order for you to be great?

1025
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: So you just don't roll out of bed one morning

1026
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: say you know what, I think, I'll be great, be

1027
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: great today. Now you live that every single day, every

1028
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: single day. What you do, how you approach the game.

1029
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, listen that people talk, what they are saying.

1030
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: What is everybody said about Lebron the steps first then last,

1031
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: to leave, shooting, getting the shots up, call to hot,

1032
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: tough Phisio this that hyperbaric chamber stem everything.

1033
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: What you hear about it?

1034
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, discipline, no shortcuts, no shortcuts.

1035
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, people foe when they get that money.

1036
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: Now oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1037
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: Sometimes people fold and they just going through the motions

1038
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 5: once they get that money.

1039
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: That's what I didn't under That's what I understand is that.

1040
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1041
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: My thing was when I got the big payday, I

1042
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: want to I wanted you to show within a year

1043
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: or two I was underpaid. I wanted to get to

1044
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: the I was like, well, y'all just gave me this man, please,

1045
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm finish. Go I'm finish, Go get the next bag.

1046
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: And with basketball players think about it. Jason Tatum making

1047
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: three twenty three, thirty dude, Jason Tatum twenty six. His

1048
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: next contract gonna probably be four hundred million. That man's

1049
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: gonna make a billion dollars just in basketball.

1050
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: No endorsement, just basketball, right, that's crazy.

1051
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: So I never got Apple because I've seen it.

1052
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: Guys get the bag and then they don't train, they

1053
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: don't do what they did in order to get that.

1054
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: Nah bro, you gotta be you gotta be hungry. I

1055
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: see they keeps it. I think I said. Mark Eaton

1056
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: is deceased, right, Sean Bradley, I think got paralyzed in

1057
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: an ad He got paralyzed in a bike accident. Mark

1058
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: Eaton got run over on a bike, correct, I know, Sean,

1059
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I know Sean Bradley got paralyzed. I think he was

1060
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: riding the bicycle, got he got ran over the bike.

1061
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Both of them, Mark got ran over the bike. Sickle

1062
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: two m yeah, both of them. In Utah. I I

1063
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: thought I remember reading that while ago, Mark Eaton was

1064
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: a tall guy with a defensive Player of the Year

1065
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: for the Utah Jazz play the number of years with

1066
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. He was an All An All Star

1067
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: on the bike in Utah, got ran over, got killed.

1068
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: Sean Bradley from you Mormon, got ran over the bike,

1069
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: got paralyzed.

1070
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: What's going on over there with the face.

1071
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Huh, bro, look at it. That's why I stopped riding.

1072
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: Unless you unless you on.

1073
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: A trail bicycles, but you on the street right and

1074
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: you know people people don't take you know, look they they.

1075
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: Damn pay attention.

1076
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: No, and uh, you know, and it doesn't take much

1077
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: for you to go down on that bike. They hit

1078
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: that backyard. You're on the ground, you're up under the car.

1079
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: You don't see, you don't anticipate how fast that car

1080
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: is going, and it's upon you before you know it, boom.

1081
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: And like I said, that's why I stay. That's why

1082
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: I started riding on Joe. I started. I actually stopped

1083
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: riding my bike because I used to ride there. I

1084
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: would always try to get up early in the morning,

1085
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: try to get out before the traffic got bad. And

1086
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: we had a couple of parties. We go out, We

1087
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: go thirty miles riding through the city of Atlanta. But

1088
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: it just got to the point it just was. It

1089
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: just wasn't And I rode a lot, especially when I

1090
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: played right, but it just I just like, no, it's

1091
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: not even worth it if I can't get to a Now.

1092
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: Colorado is very conducive because you can got trails, and

1093
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: you can go from Denver all the way to Colorado

1094
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Springs and you go up the boulder and never coming

1095
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: ready to come in contact with a with a vehicle.

1096
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: But in the streets like.

1097
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: Like Atlanta, and I see people riding in la and

1098
00:53:54,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: Hell now especially now the way the traffic is in Atlanta. Nah, nah,

1099
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: you just you just asking for trouble. So I said, no,

1100
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1101
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: Oh.

1102
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Joe Carmelo anths says he wanted to leave the game

1103
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: because of basketball after a young player called him up.

1104
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: We're playing in Denver. This is the first time I

1105
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: played in Denmer in a long time. I go back.

1106
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Michael Porter's guarded me. I catch it on him quick,

1107
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: right elbow, just like that catch it post quick, jabb

1108
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: go left lay up. He's like, damn, uh, I ain't

1109
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: know you still had that.

1110
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 4: Hey man, Mellow, Mellow, Melotle, funny man.

1111
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 5: I just did I think I think I just did

1112
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 5: a podcast of Mellow and Rudy Gay uh huh uh

1113
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 5: last week. I really enjoyed that hearing their stories, uh,

1114
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: some of their basketball stories, some of the things that

1115
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: they've been through to get, you know, get to the

1116
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 5: point and when they knew they were at the end,

1117
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: you know, of their of their career.

1118
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: So man, that that was very very, very very enjoyable.

1119
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: Man.

1120
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 5: And uh, damn when it you think about it, if

1121
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 5: you watch when you watch watch Mellow highlights, Man Mellow

1122
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 5: one of the greatest scores of all time, one of

1123
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 5: the greatest players of all time.

1124
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: And it was dope just to be in his presence.

1125
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: And obviously Rudy Gay is Rudy Gay is very good

1126
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 5: at his craft as well. So just being in their

1127
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 5: presence and talking sports and and what it took, you know,

1128
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: for us to get where we got to, and how

1129
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: our past were all different, but the end goal was

1130
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 5: all the same.

1131
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, that was dope. That was dope.

1132
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: The things that I noticed as I know my time

1133
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: was I just couldn't give it to you like I

1134
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: once could. Yeah, I could put the games together. When

1135
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: I was in my prime, I could give you games.

1136
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: I can give you one hundred and one hundred and

1137
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety and eighty. As I started to

1138
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: get older, my mind said, oh yeah, oh by right, right.

1139
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: Right right, but the body can't do it.

1140
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: I can have that one big game.

1141
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: Hence In my thirteenth year, I broke the NFL record

1142
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: for most receiving yards in the game by tight end.

1143
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it?

1144
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 4: Fifteen or seventeen?

1145
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: I was that was your That was your thirteen for me.

1146
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? How many the catch?

1147
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: I had twelve for two fourteen?

1148
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: Whoa but cooking?

1149
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you cook it out. But and I ended up

1150
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a special year because I felt

1151
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: ooh oh Joe, I had I man had got. I

1152
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: got with a speed coach I did. I started to

1153
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: train differently. My body looked different. I felt so good.

1154
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I knew this was gonna be a special year. You

1155
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: was like to man, yeah, I felt good.

1156
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 4: You grab your bett, you grabbed your light? Is that year?

1157
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I always know? The thing was, o Joe. My body

1158
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: was different. I always I always came into camp at

1159
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: two thirty two. That was my reporting weight. I always

1160
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be thirty two. Even though as I started

1161
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: to get older, Mike was like, look, you can come

1162
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: in if you want to come into thirty five, thirty six.

1163
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: I said no. I wanted the pressure to know I

1164
00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: had to be at this weight.

1165
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: Even as I got older, I still wanted that I

1166
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: still needed to focus. They're like, okay, you got to

1167
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: be at this waight and so but as I started

1168
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: to get older, oh Joe, I just I just couldn't

1169
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: give it to him back to back like that. And uh,

1170
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: I could have a big game and then I have

1171
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty and the next thing you know,

1172
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: I go thirty forty and a lot of that. You know,

1173
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: Rod had started to become Rod was the focal part

1174
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: of the offense.

1175
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: That was cool too.

1176
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: But I found myself as I watched myself and I

1177
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: go back and look at us, like yeah, because now

1178
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I didn't have that same I

1179
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 1: didn't have that same ability to run through tackles right

1180
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: the least looked I mean things the guy I would

1181
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: the guys like when I was in my prime, got

1182
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: hit my clip my foot, I would stumble and still

1183
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: go and still go get your first down, got hit

1184
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: my foot, I get two yards. I ain't have the

1185
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: same balance. But but but but I knew, oh yo,

1186
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: you know you don't you know? Guys, No, guess like

1187
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I ain't know.

1188
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah you do? You know? If you on our team,

1189
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: you to know because I have told you.

1190
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 5: And one thing about it when when it comes to us,

1191
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 5: we won't be honest with ourselves until we actually see

1192
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: it on film. And you never know until you see

1193
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: it on film, because your mind is telling you doing

1194
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 5: it right, but your body ain't doing it until you

1195
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: watch it.

1196
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to see a bad old y'all.

1197
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was watching myself in practice

1198
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: on practice tape and uh.

1199
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, h I was like, damn, somebody moving

1200
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: real slowly.

1201
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1202
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: That think that camera turned around? He had on eighty four.

1203
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, no, I said, yeah, I think it's

1204
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: about time.

1205
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's about time for me to.

1206
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: To the house.

1207
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: But like I said, you know, hey, my second hold on.

1208
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: I think it was my.

1209
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: Game thirteen fourteen fifty no game fourteen because we had

1210
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 1: two games left. I was offensive player of the week,

1211
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: went for three touchdowns, cost seven po Buco won.

1212
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: Three tones against San Diego.

1213
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: M hm.

1214
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: We played Cleveland, we won that game. I think I

1215
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: had okay numbers. Green Bay we didn't play because we

1216
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: had everything already clinch So my last year old show,

1217
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: I had like seven hundred and seventy yards, eight touchdowns

1218
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: and you know porters ran for sixteen hundred yards, so

1219
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: we were a running team. So it's like, I'm like,

1220
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: I still could play, but I just like man and

1221
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: those who are good. If you go back and look

1222
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: at my numbers where they ranked among the tight end,

1223
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: I think I was like second or third at no

1224
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: worse than four and god, wait, way younger than me.

1225
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: But that's just what me. Oh Joe, right, yeah, I

1226
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: had to accept that.

1227
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 4: Like, man, I'm.

1228
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 5: Damn yeah, just don't look right, it ain't it ain't

1229
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 5: what you're used to. No, the coming coming to grips

1230
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 5: of reality and understanding your body can't do it anymore,

1231
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 5: but your mind can.

1232
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: That's one of the worst.

1233
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: Mind the mind willing the body you're unable. Hell, you know, hey,

1234
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean by he.

1235
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: In my mind, man, I'm more than enough man for

1236
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: a woman.

1237
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but the body said, Shawny, you're not quite

1238
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: good enough for two though.

1239
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: You gotta understand that, don't ya. Hey, I think I'm more.

1240
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: Than enough for a woman, right right, I'm not nearly

1241
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: enough for two though.

1242
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, mabe, it's just that's going the volume