WEBVTT - Colin Jost 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.920 Hey everyone, I'm Bruce Bosi. Thanks for pulling up a 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.920 chair today on Table for Two. We're back in my hometown, 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.440 New York City, and I could not be more excited 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.880 for our lunch at the Carlisle Hotel, a new location 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.120 for the show, but a classic city spot that's as 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:23.279 glamorous as they come. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.800 Do you eat here a lot since you live in 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:26.520 the neighborhood? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.120 I do. I hear a decent amount I hear this morning. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.840 We're having lunch this afternoon with someone who might be 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.440 one of the sharpest people I know. It just so 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.000 happens that he's also incredibly funny. He's both the co 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.920 anchor of Weekend Update and the head writer for Saturday 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:46.000 Night Live. He's also married to arguably the biggest movie 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.240 story in the world. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:48.599 You always need fries. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.080 Need needs an interesting word. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.000 You need I need fries. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:54.800 Are the absolute most addictive one from you. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.960 That's right, we're having lunch with mister Colin. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.160 We're going to talk about growing up in Staten Island, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.839 SNL and so much more so. Pull up a chair, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.679 we grab a glass of rose and enjoy, because today's 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.720 lunch is going to be a lot of fun. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.360 Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.440 Yeah, whoa. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.400 I'm Bruce Bosi and this is my podcast Table for two. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.640 We're sitting with an incredibly talented man, funny man, smart 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:40.600 man person. I have the luxury of calling friend mister 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:41.360 Colin Jost. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.000 Welcome. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.600 Thank you, Bruce, thanks for having me. Like I only 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.120 can't to hear that introduction now I'm waving. I just 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.080 needed an ego list. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.760 You know, your wife was the first guest that's Table 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.360 for two at Via Krorota way back when, so this 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:56.360 sort of makes sense. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.200 As long as they do better than her, I'm happy. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.440 It's all about competition. She did good. Oh no, they 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.040 tell you they damn it in the room, damn it. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:08.239 I have a feeling though. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.400 Yeah, we're gonna meet. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.000 friend everyone in this restaurant by the end. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.560 Yeah. Yeah. So what I loved about with Scarlett and 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:20.840 I bonded is we're all New York kids. Yeah, different burroughs. Yeah, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.880 growing up in Staten Island, what was that like? 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.880 I mean, you lived on a block with your whole family, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.120 So family is very important to you. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.640 And how did that mold you? To the man you 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:32.200 grew into. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.760 Yeah, you know, and obviously you have similar with your family. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.120 I mean it's and then when you when you have kids, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.760 you realize the value of that on a whole other level. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.200 You're like, oh my god, it's so nice the idea 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.400 that you could just let them go out of the 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.520 house and they would run to another house that your 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.000 family's and you know, like your grandparents or your cousins 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:53.200 are in. You know, that's so valuable and I kind 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.480 of miss it now. I mean, I love growing up 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.480 in sun Island. I had a great I found it 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.280 very idyllic as a kid. You had lots of sports, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.320 you know, facilities, lots of parks. I was at a 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.120 swimming pool like that was in the Great Hills area 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.880 that I spent every single day of the summer there 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.840 from I would get dropped off at eight am and 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.200 I would leave at nine pm. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:14.560 Wow. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.960 And I had a lot of independence and autonomy. Like 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.240 my parents would be there sometimes, you know, in and out, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.320 but you know, you were with a swim coach, or 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.080 you were with other friends, or some parents would rotate 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.799 keeping an eye on you. But you had a lot 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.680 of room to operate and everything was there basketball courts, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.000 raquetball court I think you kind of ran around. And 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.919 now when I think about that, being in the city, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.000 it's so hard to find that it's basically impossible, and 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.680 especially with space where you could get into kind of adventures, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.800 so you could get into trouble, but not really bad trouble, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.280 you know what I mean, like wandering the woods, but 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:47.400 hopefully nothing weird. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.560 Now, yeah, it's a good balance. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.920 And stan Alan had that, and you could walk around 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.480 your neighborhood and you'd see friends, and you'd see people 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.800 you you know, parents of friends you knew, and it 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.880 felt like a that's why my mom still lives there. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.040 My mom's been there her whole life, Like we grew 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.920 up next to my grandparents. You just moved to the 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.320 house next door, which is amazing, amazing, insane. First of all, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.600 it's like a sitcom setup. And also I keep thinking, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.040 now my dad, because if you think it's like for 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.080 my mom, like, oh, how great for my dad, it's like, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.320 it's so weird that your in law just like walks 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.839 into your house anytime of day. It's a full everybody 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.200 else right right right, And but it's you know, it's 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.800 a great I think it's a great way to grow 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.039 up and and I loved it. And then there's a 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.680 you know, it's also it's definitely an insular place. It's 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.680 literally an island, right, and a lot of people, you know, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.200 some people commute into work, so they're all the I 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.400 commuted into high school, so I was naturally there all 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.400 the time, right, And then you just see other parts 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.560 of the city and you get kind of you have 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.960 an itch to go get into Manhattan and kind of 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:48.760 see other stuff. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.840 The idea that you can sort of walk out your 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.239 door and have your adventures and spend your summers there 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.839 and have your buddies, but also have like your aunts 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.400 and your uncles and your grandparents to like how informs 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.120 you as a person. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.120 Well, part of it is like my fam my mom's 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.400 side is mostly Irish, you know, it was there. A 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.600 lot of them were in the fire department, and I 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.160 think there's a the sense of humor that comes out 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.599 of that was really important because it was it's kind 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.000 of a dark you know, you kind of especially in 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.800 the fire department, like there's so much life and death 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:20.240 with it. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.320 But the people who. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.600 Work in the fire department are really warm and really 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.320 and I think have a great sense of humor in general, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.360 you know, like I think, and I want to joke 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.159 around and love the community and the camaraderie, right, And 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.080 that's part of why they love their jobs, even though 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.000 they're obviously very dangerous. And I think, and maybe that's 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.000 the nature of dealing with a job that's really dangerous, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.599 is that you kind of have to joke around about 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.560 it sometimes because otherwise you go crazy, you know. So 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.159 that's definitely the community I was raised in of people 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.120 wanting to wanting to have fun, and no one wanted 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.360 to be serious or anything. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.159 So State Island sort of really became its own Burrow offshoot. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.039 Not a lot of people were going to Staten Island, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.680 and yet to me when I would go, I'd be like, 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.640 this is like country, this is beautiful. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.719 I mean, it was literally real country until probably like 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.520 the fifties or you know, there were huge farms, there 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.440 were it's where people in Manhattan and Brooklyn had summer homes, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:14.080 believe it or not. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.240 Like there was a walk. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.719 My grandpa was a lifeguard on the boardwalk, and it 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.240 was it was probably similar to really nice areas in 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.720 the Jersey Shore, yea. And it had this thriving beach. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.279 There's still like beach bungalows in certain areas. And I mean, basically, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.120 I guess the water just got so bad that it 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.560 was it became a lot less appealing that to go 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.680 in the water. But it used to be that and 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.800 now it's a lot more crowded. I mean, that's the 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.520 biggest complaint for as far as and there's not the 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.560 same you know, the population is now probably five to 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.280 six hundred thousand, and it was back then in the 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.599 fifties it might have been like fifty thousand or something like. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.240 It might have been a ten times growth with and 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.440 it sounds the size of Manhattan basically the land area. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.120 So it's not so much it's like a third of 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.200 the population, right, but still pretty that's still a lot 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:02.559 of people. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.880 I mean, you love it so much that you bought 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.800 a ferry? I did you and Pete Davidson bought a ferry. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.280 That's how much I invested in. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.600 What is there going to be a party on that? 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.000 You're gonna be You're gonna be invited, don't worry. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.880 Yeah, Okay, I feel like that's out a lot. When 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.200 I'm with Colin that I remind him like you do that, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.600 you own that. And when are we gonna. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.000 When is the party? Yeah, it's a great question. It's 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.480 definitely going to start with a party. That's the one 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.320 thing we know right. Everything in between is what we're 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.720 figuring out. I'm very excited about the project. It's such 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.080 a giant project that it's going to take time, but 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.000 there's there's really good I think it's a great opportunity. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.280 There's a lot of good ideas that are already behind it. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.800 So and I love the fact that you guys made 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.520 this choice, you both Staten Island guys, to preserve this. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.440 Part of history. It's like, you know, these things go away, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.360 you think. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.840 Yeah, it would have been sad if it was just scrapped. Yeah, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.840 maybe it might have been more financially viable to just 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.560 use the stealing would and sell it, you know. But no, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.080 it was cool and it was the it was the 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.000 actual boat that the ferry that I took every morning 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:07.440 to school. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.160 What did your room look like? Did you have posters 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.560 in your room? Like? What college? 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.520 My room still looks exactly the same as it did. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.720 My parents have They just like maybe changed the bed 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.240 from a twin bed to because it's like, who's going 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.600 to ever go and see this twin creepy twin bed. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.000 That's all there. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.840 But it was, and it stick. It still is. But 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:42.240 since I was probably a baby, it was baby blue wallpaper, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.240 I mean not wallpaper painted painted baby blue, which it 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.640 was throughout my entire high school college. When I came home, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:54.600 it had animated looking poster of a penguin with sunglasses 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.959 that said chillin' that I that I won selling magazine 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.640 subscriptions that went up. There was a photo of me, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.640 like a caricature of me that was painted in Paris 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.559 when I went with a friend in high school. And 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.520 then it was just bookshelves with all these books of 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:22.360 Russian history, economics, old English literature, poems, romantic poetry, Michael 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.959 Crichton novels, Wow, and and a desk that I would 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.960 work at in the closet with. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.000 Some clothes and that was it. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:30.520 That was it. I know. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.800 I didn't put up I never had a phase where 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.320 I put up posters of things I liked. I never 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.200 had a phase where I had like real stuff, Like 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.640 I didn't build things and put them up, or do 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 art or put it up, or just didn't do anything 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.000 in my room like, I just like, I'm here to sleep. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.280 Then I go and I live my life and go 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.600 to a school and everything. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:49.520 And I've never really thought about it. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.480 It's it's I just needed to like picture it. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.959 Because I didn't make a space. I just whatever was there. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.000 I just used for what I need. You know, I 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.800 would read, I would write, I would sleep, and then 0:09:58.840 --> 0:09:59.640 I would leave. 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.920 And it still exist and it's just probably the same. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.520 I mean, it's almost like about that, Yeah, should. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.080 You really because before one day someone your mom's like, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.559 you know what we're changing and maybe. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:14.040 Blow torch it's right, would it would be very very flammable. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:25.839 I'm sure. I basically have never eaten lunch in like 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:26.720 twenty years. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.200 Really, I never eat lunch. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:29.400 I never I never go to it. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.040 Like, never sit and have a lunch unless it's a 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.520 meeting or you know, something, very which is pretty rare. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.319 I don't have lunch. I don't sit and have lunch. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.360 I'll have I actually just don't even I usually know breakfast. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.240 I'd usually kind of wait, get to you know, with 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.160 kids and everything, and then I maybe can get out 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.960 of the house by nine or ten. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:51.120 I'll work out. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.240 Then I'll have a juice like a green juice or 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.960 a coffee. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.000 And then I'll have an Usually I'll just have like 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.160 an egg white omelet when I finish, after I finish exercising, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.680 and then i'm you know, I'm kind of good till dinner, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.760 but you know, of something on a go or I 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.040 work in between, but you know, otherwise that's my next 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.400 main meal. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:11.720 Okay. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.320 I mean you talk a lot about growing up and 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.480 being overweight, Yeah, which I don't. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.520 It was hard for me to believe. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.520 Plus you're always so active on bicycles and then doing 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.280 crew at college, I don't understand. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.360 Yeah, it was a very It was like a paradox 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.400 where I was. So I was playing five sports and 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.600 I was gaining weight, and I think it was like, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.439 honestly a testament to how insanely caloric fast. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.280 Food was in the nineties. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.800 Yes, that I was able to maintain and even add 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.199 weight despite constant activity, and my brother and I both were, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.480 like my brother was even heavier than I was, really 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.360 and we were constantly eating like processed. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.160 Yeah, there was a lot of. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.880 McDonald We would go to McDonald's. We would each get 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.800 a full adult meal. Then my brother and my dad 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.280 and I would like split a twenty piece nuggets for 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.880 the table, and like you often would get like one 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.240 other thing like a triple cheeseburger. 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.440 To split out. And that's crazy, that's a lot. That's 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.600 like each having probably three to four thousand calories. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.880 For completely casual one. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.000 Yeah, and we probably ate it all in about ten minutes. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.720 Nothing tastes better. And then you'd have dinner later that night. 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.839 Oh yeah, of course we weren't missing meals. I'm like, no, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.560 I should back off on dinner. They made a lot 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.079 of dinner, you know, my parents did cook a lot 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.560 at home, and then we had probably all the things 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.600 that you now realize are the worst breakfasts, you know, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.720 like a bowl of cyrus, like bowl of sugary cereal 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.640 with nothing else to wigger it in any way, or 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.640 like a doughnut or a bagel, or all the things. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.199 That right now you realize it right exactly like. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.600 The But you know, of course, I think also at 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.640 that time, no one was really thinking, certainly, no one 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:55.240 in my orbit was thinking about nutrition or no. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.920 No, no, no, that didn't come until later. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:11.240 No, I got to I talked to Share the other day, okay, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.160 like three days ago. Why because she was maybe gonna 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.920 come on and do something on the show. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.200 She basically was like I wanted to. You know, she 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.160 was extremely nice. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.240 Last like last show because she was doing she was 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.199 doing a show in Madison Square Garden and she was 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.560 doing a probably jingle ballingall and we were kind of 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.679 talking about Originally we were talking about having her come on, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.439 like introducing her as updated. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:37.200 She wanted to do something. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.240 Update, like saying, here to talk about the NBA's first 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.400 ever in season basketball share, come on, just give really 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.480 good basketball analysis of what's happening. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:47.920 Come on. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:50.800 I would have. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.600 And when I talk to her, She's like, I don't 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.840 know basketball. I'm looking at these names. I don't know 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:55.920 anyone that's in this thing. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.160 You're like, right, yeah, And then she would have made 0:13:59.200 --> 0:13:59.760 it funnier. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.400 It would have been, but I think it would have been. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.640 But also I'm sure she maybe it would have also 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.120 been deeply unsatisfying for any fan of Shares. I don't 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.200 it would have basically eliminated both those fans. But she 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.840 was she was so I mean, I was so excited 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.520 to talk to her, like, oh was she like was 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.480 she like really very nice? And and and you know, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.440 I really wanted to figure something out. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:22.480 But it was hard. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.280 I think the part of it being alive is so hard, 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.600 and so it's also such a scary thing, you know, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.920 but hopefully we will at some point. But she was 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.760 she was really cool to talk to. I mean, it's 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.160 one of those people you're like, oh, that's that's really 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:35.680 she is. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.920 Thanks for joining us on Table for two. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.400 Colin Joe's graduated from Harvard, where he served as president 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.640 of the le gender humor publication the Harvard Lampoon. How 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.280 did working at the Lampoon prepare him for Saturday Night Live? 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.560 When you go to Harvard and you are, you know, 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.000 writing for the Lampoon, which you know, they don't make 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.120 it easier to get on that. It's you know, to 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.480 become a writer, and it's kind of great that they 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:18.840 kept a. 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.520 Yeah, it's a hard process and a kind of a 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.720 mysterious process, and and you don't know. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.200 There's a lot of things that kind of fuck with 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.280 your head about it, and you don't know whether you're 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.760 blowing it or you're doing okay. Like you know, there's 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.280 no there's very little support or structure to what the 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.640 advice is and stuff there. So and you realize you're 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.960 just dealing with kids who are a year older than 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.640 you maybe and maybe they're drinking during the day and 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.840 maybe they're not totally in a great position to be 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.320 giving advice also, right, So you're trying to go through 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.880 this process. But it is a really you know, it's 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.680 a great meritocratic writing process. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.520 You know, you're simmoning sketches. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.240 People are voting on sketches not knowing who wrote them, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.120 you know, which I think is kind of a cool thing, 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.360 and theoretically just trying to find who is the funniest person, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.760 which is still subjective, but that's at least what their 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.040 goal is. And it's you know, you have to write 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.680 a lot to get in and when you're on you're 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:14.560 expected to write a lot. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.400 So it's you know, that's wild. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.440 So do you feel and you also, you know, by 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.000 the time you left you are at the top of 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.080 the chain in that you know you're top dog there. Yeah, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.600 and also now being you know, head writer and you've 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.360 been head writer, and what is it about you that 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.520 you feel gets you to that place? Are you highly 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.160 ambitious that way? Do you? 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:35.840 Definitely? 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.680 I mean, I'm definitely ambitious. I think the head writer 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.200 part was a combination of things. Like part of it 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.280 was just getting better as a writer. It's not a 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.680 job anyone does. Like Michael Ja I loved him as 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.680 a comedian and recommended him as a writer, but he 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.840 came in like he had never written a sketch before 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.160 in his life, you never written a single sketch. He 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.920 was a great stand up and he but he'd never 0:16:58.960 --> 0:16:59.520 in a sketch. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.160 And then he just figured it out, like quickly. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.240 He figured it out and wrote and has written. Some 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.400 of the best sketches that have been on the show 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.080 are right, And so that's just like that, Yeah, I mean, 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.879 obviously it's talent. And then also someone you know, I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.920 don't know what it is like willing themselves to figure 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.080 it out or just being savvy enough to figure it out, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.199 you know, and which is kind of a miracle that 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.040 someone can just do can come in and just figure 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.560 it out totally. Like I didn't have any experience writing 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.760 sketches really, but I would do, like in the Lampoon, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.760 you're writing stuff that's not always so dissimilar. And then 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.119 I definitely performed some things with friends around the city 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.080 that were kind of more in a sketch world. So 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.720 it wasn't like totally and I wrote a packet, like 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.919 I wrote a couple packets to try to apply and submit, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.440 which he didn't do. So it's he really went from 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.400 like zero to one hundred successfully, whereas at. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.240 Least I had that, like I had gone to it 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:00.800 a little bit. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.200 And then certainly it's ambition, like that was after I first, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.919 your first goal is to not get fired, right, You 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.919 just want to be about have a chance to do 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.280 it and enjoy the job and write things you think 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.760 are funny and hope that they get on the air. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.560 And I was lucky that some things that I broke 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.480 out on the air. And then the second year I 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.639 came back and I had sort of an expectation of myself, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.320 like I should be able to write a lot of 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.639 stuff because I wrote some stuff last year, and the 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.200 second year, like I want to even set up the 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.560 first five or six shows, like I didn't have anything 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.879 in the show my second year, and I was like, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.600 oh no, like am I regressing? 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.480 Am I bad at this now? Or like did I submit? 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.240