1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm Bruce Bosi. Thanks for pulling up a 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: chair today on Table for Two. We're back in my hometown, 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: New York City, and I could not be more excited 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: for our lunch at the Carlisle Hotel, a new location 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: for the show, but a classic city spot that's as 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: glamorous as they come. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Do you eat here a lot since you live in 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: the neighborhood? 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: I do. I hear a decent amount I hear this morning. 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: We're having lunch this afternoon with someone who might be 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: one of the sharpest people I know. It just so 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: happens that he's also incredibly funny. He's both the co 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: anchor of Weekend Update and the head writer for Saturday 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Night Live. He's also married to arguably the biggest movie 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: story in the world. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: You always need fries. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Need needs an interesting word. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: You need I need fries. 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Are the absolute most addictive one from you. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: That's right, we're having lunch with mister Colin. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about growing up in Staten Island, 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: SNL and so much more so. Pull up a chair, 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: we grab a glass of rose and enjoy, because today's 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: lunch is going to be a lot of fun. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster. 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm Bruce Bosi and this is my podcast Table for two. 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: We're sitting with an incredibly talented man, funny man, smart 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: man person. I have the luxury of calling friend mister 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Colin Jost. 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Welcome. 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, Bruce, thanks for having me. Like I only 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: can't to hear that introduction now I'm waving. I just 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: needed an ego list. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: You know, your wife was the first guest that's Table 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: for two at Via Krorota way back when, so this 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: sort of makes sense. 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: As long as they do better than her, I'm happy. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: It's all about competition. She did good. Oh no, they 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: tell you they damn it in the room, damn it. 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: I have a feeling though. 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna meet. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: friend everyone in this restaurant by the end. 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So what I loved about with Scarlett and 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: I bonded is we're all New York kids. Yeah, different burroughs. Yeah, 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: growing up in Staten Island, what was that like? 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you lived on a block with your whole family, 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: So family is very important to you. 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: And how did that mold you? To the man you 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: grew into. 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and obviously you have similar with your family. 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: I mean it's and then when you when you have kids, 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: you realize the value of that on a whole other level. 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: You're like, oh my god, it's so nice the idea 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: that you could just let them go out of the 56 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: house and they would run to another house that your 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: family's and you know, like your grandparents or your cousins 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: are in. You know, that's so valuable and I kind 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: of miss it now. I mean, I love growing up 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: in sun Island. I had a great I found it 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: very idyllic as a kid. You had lots of sports, 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: you know, facilities, lots of parks. I was at a 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: swimming pool like that was in the Great Hills area 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: that I spent every single day of the summer there 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: from I would get dropped off at eight am and 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: I would leave at nine pm. 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: And I had a lot of independence and autonomy. Like 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: my parents would be there sometimes, you know, in and out, 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: but you know, you were with a swim coach, or 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: you were with other friends, or some parents would rotate 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: keeping an eye on you. But you had a lot 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: of room to operate and everything was there basketball courts, 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: raquetball court I think you kind of ran around. And 75 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: now when I think about that, being in the city, 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: it's so hard to find that it's basically impossible, and 77 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: especially with space where you could get into kind of adventures, 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: so you could get into trouble, but not really bad trouble, 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like wandering the woods, but 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: hopefully nothing weird. 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's a good balance. 82 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: And stan Alan had that, and you could walk around 83 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: your neighborhood and you'd see friends, and you'd see people 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: you you know, parents of friends you knew, and it 85 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: felt like a that's why my mom still lives there. 86 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: My mom's been there her whole life, Like we grew 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: up next to my grandparents. You just moved to the 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: house next door, which is amazing, amazing, insane. First of all, 89 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: it's like a sitcom setup. And also I keep thinking, 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: now my dad, because if you think it's like for 91 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: my mom, like, oh, how great for my dad, it's like, 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: it's so weird that your in law just like walks 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: into your house anytime of day. It's a full everybody 94 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: else right right right, And but it's you know, it's 95 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: a great I think it's a great way to grow 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 4: up and and I loved it. And then there's a 97 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: you know, it's also it's definitely an insular place. It's 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: literally an island, right, and a lot of people, you know, 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: some people commute into work, so they're all the I 100 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: commuted into high school, so I was naturally there all 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: the time, right, And then you just see other parts 102 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: of the city and you get kind of you have 103 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: an itch to go get into Manhattan and kind of 104 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: see other stuff. 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: The idea that you can sort of walk out your 106 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: door and have your adventures and spend your summers there 107 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: and have your buddies, but also have like your aunts 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: and your uncles and your grandparents to like how informs 109 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: you as a person. 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: Well, part of it is like my fam my mom's 111 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: side is mostly Irish, you know, it was there. A 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: lot of them were in the fire department, and I 113 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: think there's a the sense of humor that comes out 114 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: of that was really important because it was it's kind 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: of a dark you know, you kind of especially in 116 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: the fire department, like there's so much life and death 117 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: with it. 118 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: But the people who. 119 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 4: Work in the fire department are really warm and really 120 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: and I think have a great sense of humor in general, 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: you know, like I think, and I want to joke 122 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 4: around and love the community and the camaraderie, right, And 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: that's part of why they love their jobs, even though 124 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: they're obviously very dangerous. And I think, and maybe that's 125 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: the nature of dealing with a job that's really dangerous, 126 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: is that you kind of have to joke around about 127 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: it sometimes because otherwise you go crazy, you know. So 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: that's definitely the community I was raised in of people 129 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: wanting to wanting to have fun, and no one wanted 130 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: to be serious or anything. 131 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: So State Island sort of really became its own Burrow offshoot. 132 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people were going to Staten Island, 133 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: and yet to me when I would go, I'd be like, 134 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: this is like country, this is beautiful. 135 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: I mean, it was literally real country until probably like 136 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: the fifties or you know, there were huge farms, there 137 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: were it's where people in Manhattan and Brooklyn had summer homes, 138 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: believe it or not. 139 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: Like there was a walk. 140 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: My grandpa was a lifeguard on the boardwalk, and it 141 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: was it was probably similar to really nice areas in 142 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 4: the Jersey Shore, yea. And it had this thriving beach. 143 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: There's still like beach bungalows in certain areas. And I mean, basically, 144 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: I guess the water just got so bad that it 145 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: was it became a lot less appealing that to go 146 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: in the water. But it used to be that and 147 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: now it's a lot more crowded. I mean, that's the 148 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: biggest complaint for as far as and there's not the 149 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: same you know, the population is now probably five to 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: six hundred thousand, and it was back then in the 151 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: fifties it might have been like fifty thousand or something like. 152 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: It might have been a ten times growth with and 153 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: it sounds the size of Manhattan basically the land area. 154 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: So it's not so much it's like a third of 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: the population, right, but still pretty that's still a lot 156 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 4: of people. 157 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you love it so much that you bought 158 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: a ferry? I did you and Pete Davidson bought a ferry. 159 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: That's how much I invested in. 160 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: What is there going to be a party on that? 161 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: You're gonna be You're gonna be invited, don't worry. 162 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I feel like that's out a lot. When 163 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm with Colin that I remind him like you do that, 164 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: you own that. And when are we gonna. 165 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: When is the party? Yeah, it's a great question. It's 166 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: definitely going to start with a party. That's the one 167 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: thing we know right. Everything in between is what we're 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: figuring out. I'm very excited about the project. It's such 169 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: a giant project that it's going to take time, but 170 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: there's there's really good I think it's a great opportunity. 171 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: There's a lot of good ideas that are already behind it. 172 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: So and I love the fact that you guys made 173 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: this choice, you both Staten Island guys, to preserve this. 174 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Part of history. It's like, you know, these things go away, 175 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: you think. 176 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been sad if it was just scrapped. Yeah, 177 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: maybe it might have been more financially viable to just 178 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: use the stealing would and sell it, you know. But no, 179 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: it was cool and it was the it was the 180 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: actual boat that the ferry that I took every morning 181 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: to school. 182 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: What did your room look like? Did you have posters 183 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: in your room? Like? What college? 184 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: My room still looks exactly the same as it did. 185 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: My parents have They just like maybe changed the bed 186 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: from a twin bed to because it's like, who's going 187 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: to ever go and see this twin creepy twin bed. 188 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: That's all there. 189 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: But it was, and it stick. It still is. But 190 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: since I was probably a baby, it was baby blue wallpaper, 191 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: I mean not wallpaper painted painted baby blue, which it 192 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: was throughout my entire high school college. When I came home, 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: it had animated looking poster of a penguin with sunglasses 194 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 4: that said chillin' that I that I won selling magazine 195 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: subscriptions that went up. There was a photo of me, 196 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: like a caricature of me that was painted in Paris 197 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: when I went with a friend in high school. And 198 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: then it was just bookshelves with all these books of 199 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: Russian history, economics, old English literature, poems, romantic poetry, Michael 200 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 4: Crichton novels, Wow, and and a desk that I would 201 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: work at in the closet with. 202 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Some clothes and that was it. 203 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: That was it. I know. 204 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: I didn't put up I never had a phase where 205 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: I put up posters of things I liked. I never 206 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: had a phase where I had like real stuff, Like 207 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: I didn't build things and put them up, or do 208 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: art or put it up, or just didn't do anything 209 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: in my room like, I just like, I'm here to sleep. 210 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: Then I go and I live my life and go 211 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: to a school and everything. 212 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: And I've never really thought about it. 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: It's it's I just needed to like picture it. 214 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: Because I didn't make a space. I just whatever was there. 215 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: I just used for what I need. You know, I 216 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: would read, I would write, I would sleep, and then 217 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: I would leave. 218 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: And it still exist and it's just probably the same. 219 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost like about that, Yeah, should. 220 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: You really because before one day someone your mom's like, 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: you know what we're changing and maybe. 222 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Blow torch it's right, would it would be very very flammable. 223 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 3: I'm sure. I basically have never eaten lunch in like 224 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: twenty years. 225 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: Really, I never eat lunch. 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: I never I never go to it. 227 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: Like, never sit and have a lunch unless it's a 228 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: meeting or you know, something, very which is pretty rare. 229 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 4: I don't have lunch. I don't sit and have lunch. 230 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: I'll have I actually just don't even I usually know breakfast. 231 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: I'd usually kind of wait, get to you know, with 232 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: kids and everything, and then I maybe can get out 233 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: of the house by nine or ten. 234 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: I'll work out. 235 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: Then I'll have a juice like a green juice or 236 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: a coffee. 237 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: And then I'll have an Usually I'll just have like 238 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: an egg white omelet when I finish, after I finish exercising, 239 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: and then i'm you know, I'm kind of good till dinner, 240 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: but you know, of something on a go or I 241 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: work in between, but you know, otherwise that's my next 242 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: main meal. 243 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 244 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean you talk a lot about growing up and 245 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: being overweight, Yeah, which I don't. 246 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: It was hard for me to believe. 247 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Plus you're always so active on bicycles and then doing 248 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: crew at college, I don't understand. 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a very It was like a paradox 250 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: where I was. So I was playing five sports and 251 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: I was gaining weight, and I think it was like, 252 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: honestly a testament to how insanely caloric fast. 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: Food was in the nineties. 254 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: Yes, that I was able to maintain and even add 255 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: weight despite constant activity, and my brother and I both were, 256 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: like my brother was even heavier than I was, really 257 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: and we were constantly eating like processed. 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of. 259 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: McDonald We would go to McDonald's. We would each get 260 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: a full adult meal. Then my brother and my dad 261 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: and I would like split a twenty piece nuggets for 262 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: the table, and like you often would get like one 263 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: other thing like a triple cheeseburger. 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: To split out. And that's crazy, that's a lot. That's 265 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: like each having probably three to four thousand calories. 266 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: For completely casual one. 267 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we probably ate it all in about ten minutes. 268 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Nothing tastes better. And then you'd have dinner later that night. 269 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course we weren't missing meals. I'm like, no, 270 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: I should back off on dinner. They made a lot 271 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 4: of dinner, you know, my parents did cook a lot 272 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: at home, and then we had probably all the things 273 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: that you now realize are the worst breakfasts, you know, 274 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: like a bowl of cyrus, like bowl of sugary cereal 275 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: with nothing else to wigger it in any way, or 276 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: like a doughnut or a bagel, or all the things. 277 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: That right now you realize it right exactly like. 278 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: The But you know, of course, I think also at 279 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: that time, no one was really thinking, certainly, no one 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: in my orbit was thinking about nutrition or no. 281 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, that didn't come until later. 282 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: No, I got to I talked to Share the other day, okay, 283 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: like three days ago. Why because she was maybe gonna 284 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: come on and do something on the show. 285 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: She basically was like I wanted to. You know, she 286 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: was extremely nice. 287 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: Last like last show because she was doing she was 288 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: doing a show in Madison Square Garden and she was 289 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: doing a probably jingle ballingall and we were kind of 290 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: talking about Originally we were talking about having her come on, 291 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 4: like introducing her as updated. 292 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: She wanted to do something. 293 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: Update, like saying, here to talk about the NBA's first 294 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: ever in season basketball share, come on, just give really 295 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: good basketball analysis of what's happening. 296 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Come on. 297 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: I would have. 298 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: And when I talk to her, She's like, I don't 299 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: know basketball. I'm looking at these names. I don't know 300 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: anyone that's in this thing. 301 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: You're like, right, yeah, And then she would have made 302 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: it funnier. 303 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: It would have been, but I think it would have been. 304 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: But also I'm sure she maybe it would have also 305 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: been deeply unsatisfying for any fan of Shares. I don't 306 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: it would have basically eliminated both those fans. But she 307 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: was she was so I mean, I was so excited 308 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: to talk to her, like, oh was she like was 309 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: she like really very nice? And and and you know, 310 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: I really wanted to figure something out. 311 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: But it was hard. 312 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: I think the part of it being alive is so hard, 313 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: and so it's also such a scary thing, you know, 314 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: but hopefully we will at some point. But she was 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: she was really cool to talk to. I mean, it's 316 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: one of those people you're like, oh, that's that's really 317 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: she is. 318 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Table for two. 319 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: Colin Joe's graduated from Harvard, where he served as president 320 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: of the le gender humor publication the Harvard Lampoon. How 321 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: did working at the Lampoon prepare him for Saturday Night Live? 322 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: When you go to Harvard and you are, you know, 323 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: writing for the Lampoon, which you know, they don't make 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: it easier to get on that. It's you know, to 325 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: become a writer, and it's kind of great that they 326 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: kept a. 327 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hard process and a kind of a 328 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: mysterious process, and and you don't know. 329 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that kind of fuck with 330 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: your head about it, and you don't know whether you're 331 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: blowing it or you're doing okay. Like you know, there's 332 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: no there's very little support or structure to what the 333 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: advice is and stuff there. So and you realize you're 334 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: just dealing with kids who are a year older than 335 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: you maybe and maybe they're drinking during the day and 336 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: maybe they're not totally in a great position to be 337 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: giving advice also, right, So you're trying to go through 338 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: this process. But it is a really you know, it's 339 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: a great meritocratic writing process. 340 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: You know, you're simmoning sketches. 341 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: People are voting on sketches not knowing who wrote them, 342 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: you know, which I think is kind of a cool thing, 343 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: and theoretically just trying to find who is the funniest person, 344 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: which is still subjective, but that's at least what their 345 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: goal is. And it's you know, you have to write 346 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: a lot to get in and when you're on you're 347 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: expected to write a lot. 348 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: So it's you know, that's wild. 349 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: So do you feel and you also, you know, by 350 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: the time you left you are at the top of 351 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the chain in that you know you're top dog there. Yeah, 352 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: and also now being you know, head writer and you've 353 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: been head writer, and what is it about you that 354 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: you feel gets you to that place? Are you highly 355 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: ambitious that way? Do you? 356 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: Definitely? 357 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm definitely ambitious. I think the head writer 358 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: part was a combination of things. Like part of it 359 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: was just getting better as a writer. It's not a 360 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: job anyone does. Like Michael Ja I loved him as 361 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: a comedian and recommended him as a writer, but he 362 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: came in like he had never written a sketch before 363 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: in his life, you never written a single sketch. He 364 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: was a great stand up and he but he'd never 365 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: in a sketch. 366 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: And then he just figured it out, like quickly. 367 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: He figured it out and wrote and has written. Some 368 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: of the best sketches that have been on the show 369 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: are right, And so that's just like that, Yeah, I mean, 370 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: obviously it's talent. And then also someone you know, I 371 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: don't know what it is like willing themselves to figure 372 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: it out or just being savvy enough to figure it out, 373 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 4: you know, and which is kind of a miracle that 374 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: someone can just do can come in and just figure 375 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: it out totally. Like I didn't have any experience writing 376 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: sketches really, but I would do, like in the Lampoon, 377 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: you're writing stuff that's not always so dissimilar. And then 378 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 4: I definitely performed some things with friends around the city 379 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 4: that were kind of more in a sketch world. So 380 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't like totally and I wrote a packet, like 381 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: I wrote a couple packets to try to apply and submit, 382 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: which he didn't do. So it's he really went from 383 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: like zero to one hundred successfully, whereas at. 384 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: Least I had that, like I had gone to it 385 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: a little bit. 386 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: And then certainly it's ambition, like that was after I first, 387 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 4: your first goal is to not get fired, right, You 388 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 4: just want to be about have a chance to do 389 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: it and enjoy the job and write things you think 390 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: are funny and hope that they get on the air. 391 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: And I was lucky that some things that I broke 392 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: out on the air. And then the second year I 393 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: came back and I had sort of an expectation of myself, 394 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: like I should be able to write a lot of 395 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: stuff because I wrote some stuff last year, and the 396 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: second year, like I want to even set up the 397 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: first five or six shows, like I didn't have anything 398 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: in the show my second year, and I was like, 399 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: oh no, like am I regressing? 400 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: Am I bad at this now? Or like did I submit? 401 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: And it just wasn't yeah, like yeah, you're in SNL. 402 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: And and then at some point the second year it 403 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: started clicking again. And I started getting stuff on and 404 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: then after that it was like a build like years three, 405 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: four five, where I started getting like something on every show. 406 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: Then I started getting like two things on a lot 407 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: of shows. Then I started getting like two things on 408 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: every show, you know, on average at least. 409 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: Just because did you figure out sort of the rhythm 410 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: of it? 411 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: I can. I got better. I mean, it's just getting reps. 412 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: And you know, like I wrote, was writing hundreds of 413 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: sketches a year, so you get better at it hopefully, Yeah, 414 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: and then you and and then also there's lots of things, 415 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: right like if you if you start getting sketches on 416 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 4: the show, then probably cast members want to write with 417 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: you more, or if you're helpful to cast members who 418 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: are funny, that probably helps you also. And I was 419 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: very lucky to work with people who are really fun 420 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: to cast. 421 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: You know. 422 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 4: If I started with Sadai, kis Andy and Kristen and Bill, 423 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: which is essentially the best four, and that was the 424 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: whole class. So I think that's pretty much like per 425 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: capita of the best incoming class ever. I think, so 426 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: with the exception maybe of the first ever ever, you know, 427 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: but that's a pretty pretty incredible group and so I 428 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: think I was lucky in that way, and I think, 429 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: you know, I was. Then then once you once it's 430 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: like years three to five or something, I think then 431 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: I got promoted to like supervising writing position, which was 432 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: was really just like you're getting a bunch of stuff 433 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: on and we need to give you some title. But 434 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: you're not a head writer, nor are you're ready to be, 435 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: so you know, but you're somewhere in that you're in 436 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: the mix of a new generation. 437 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah whatever. 438 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: Then you're just like more, you get into more the 439 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: producesorial world of it. More, you're in more meetings with 440 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: the producers, You're in more meetings with Lorne. You're getting 441 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: the comfort of being around Lorn in a way too, 442 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: because that's you know, because he goes from goes from 443 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: being a guy you see in the hallway every so 444 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: often I are scared to say hi to to he's 445 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: asking your opinion on something, which is that's a big change. 446 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: And then you're getting and then over time it's like 447 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: you're growing. There's a friendship growing with the person that 448 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: you really like, you care about. So it's that was 449 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: the build, but certainly there was ambition like that was 450 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 4: once I got over the hump of being afraid of 451 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: being fired like that was definitely a goal in my 452 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: mind at some point was I wanted to be head 453 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: writer because that was a. 454 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: Lot of people that I looked up to. 455 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: We were head writers like Jim Downey and Seth and 456 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: Tina and Paulapel, and there were a lot of people 457 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 4: that were like in that Michael o'donaghy back in the day, 458 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 4: you know, people that were you adopted. 459 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: It feels on Weekend Update when you and Michael sort 460 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: of go back and forth. It feels like you write 461 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: what he's going to say, Like when you do the 462 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: and like he's never seen it, like you know, you'll 463 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: see it pop up on the screen and then you 464 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: shake your head and you smile like, Okay, I can't 465 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: believe I have to say this? Is that how it 466 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: goes down? 467 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, it's yeah, it's really it's it's it's both 468 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: terrifying and exhilarating. Like it's kind of crazy. There's just 469 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: not a lot of live television in the world anymore. 470 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: So the idea that you're on live television and you 471 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: have to say something you don't know what it is, 472 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: that's pretty crazy. 473 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: And it's not it's not usually gentle. 474 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: No. 475 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: So it's a very strange. Uh, it's a very strange 476 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: thing and a but a crazy experience to go through. 477 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: And and it's really fun. Like I'm someone who can 478 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: also be really in my head a lot of times, 479 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: you know, it's in a right ely way. I could 480 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: be in my head and it definitely gets you out 481 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: of your head. And there's times where things and I 482 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 4: really like that when when there's when there's times where 483 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: you just have to react, I'm probably better at that 484 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: than when I'm thinking it through. But then you're like, 485 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: I don't know how, why can't I get that normally right? 486 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I like, if you were anticipating it because you 487 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: knew it. 488 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: Then it wouldn't be the same. 489 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: It's it's a brilliant as a viewer, it's a. 490 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Brilliant moment like that your weekend update together is when 491 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: when when it goes there it's hysterical. 492 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: It really just came out of I'm just kind of 493 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 4: trying something and it was not Again, we didn't really 494 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: have an idea for it, and then we just kind 495 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: of tried it and it became that and you know, 496 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: we'll see but it's always there's definitely a reminder to 497 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 4: not be afraid of trying things, Like it's hard at 498 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 4: our show because you really only get one shot to 499 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: try something because it's at dress rehearsal. Like if it 500 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: doesn't go well address rehearsal, it's pretty rare that it's 501 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: going to still be on the air, right, you know, 502 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: so it can go the other way. It doesn't well 503 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: addressed and the not well at air, but it doesn't 504 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: really go the other way. 505 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Who were the comics that you were heavily influenced? 506 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: I was thinking about you. 507 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: So when I was a young man in nineteen eighty nine, 508 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: I was a page at NBC and that was a 509 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: hell of a great job. 510 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: So every weekend we worked SNL. We did tours during. 511 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: The day and then you know, you had your break 512 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: and then it was like boom. And I always with 513 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Stephanie Phillips, we had big curly hairs, very you know, 514 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: late eighties or late nineties, and we would work the 515 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: door at Studio H and it was it was like 516 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: the power job. And my cast then the caste was 517 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: Dana Carvey, Nora Dunn, Phil Hartman, Jan Hooks, Victoria Jackson, 518 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: who I just love John Lovetts, Dennis Miller, Mike Myers, 519 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Neelan and. 520 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: A Whitney Brown. 521 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: Wow, that's great. It was a good that's a great guest. 522 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great. Yeah, it was a great 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: I remember that. 524 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 4: I know that writing staff was great too at that time. Really, 525 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: so many great writers from that era. 526 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: I mean it was a hell of a year and 527 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: a half to be part of that and to be 528 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: in those shows. And yeah, that was the year too 529 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: that Gilda Radnadat and so like that was a whole. 530 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: Thing in a moment. 531 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: Who were the people that really influenced you from a 532 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: comic standpoint? And were you always interested in finding yourself 533 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: on the road and pursuing that. 534 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you also are a Russian literature ma, you're 535 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're also a writer. 536 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: How did SNL SNL wise that that was what you're describing? 537 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: That cast is the first cast that I have memories of. 538 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: Oh wow, And you know, obviously loved Dana and Mike 539 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 4: Myers and Jan Hooks, and I mean Phil Hartman was 540 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: incredible and also from you know, like so I marry 541 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 4: an axe murderer. I loved Phil Hartman's great in that too, 542 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: and his work on The Simpsons, like I kind of 543 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: was aware of that, you know, it's just his voice 544 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 4: acting that was so funny. And when you know the 545 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: Waynes World movies with Mike and Dana were. Those were 546 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: like the early SNL people that I really loved then 547 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: really big were really in my sweet spot in high school, 548 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: I guess were which is usually when people's SNL casts are. 549 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: It's like were Sandler and Farley, rock Spade, that whole crew. 550 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: Those were like the sketches that I would re enact 551 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: at school and stuff with my friends, Like even formally 552 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: we would go do like assemblies and we would re 553 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 4: create those. 554 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: That listener about that because that's really funny. 555 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: We did, Yeah, we did, like you know I did. 556 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: I basically hosted a show in our class, which again 557 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: now you realize teachers will do anything to not teach. 558 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, you should do this, So I would 559 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: host a show as Letterman. Letterman was a huge influence 560 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: for me, and I would pretend to be David Letterman 561 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: and I would read like his actual top ten lists 562 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: that he was doing, Like I had books and books 563 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: of top ten lists that I would read and pick 564 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: out the ones I thought were the funniest, and then 565 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: I would read them to my class, just fully steal 566 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: his material, and then I would introduce it's kind of not. 567 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: A bad hybrid format for a show. 568 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: I would host it as Letterman, and then I would 569 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: introduce sketches from SNL that we would also steal and do. 570 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: So my friends and I, like a group of us 571 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 4: Lenny and Mike Calcagny and Mike Bodner and Frank Berlin 572 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: and Steve Paul mecI, we would go. We would reenact 573 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: them in front of the whole in front of first 574 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 4: it was just in front of our whatever seventh grade class, 575 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: and then I guess we were good enough that we 576 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 4: got moved to full assembly, so then we would do 577 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: it for the whole school, which was kind of kind 578 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: of cool. So that was that was like the first 579 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 4: idea of performing or putting a show together in a 580 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: comedy way, right, So that was like one track of things. 581 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: And then it was really actors that I love, like 582 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: Jim Carrey was huge, Robin Williams you know a little before, 583 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: was big, and then Will Ferrell was was you know 584 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: in both ways both SML and movies. Was big, and 585 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: like when he came back to host when I was 586 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: a writer, that was like one of the coolest things 587 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: because he was a guy I you know at SNL, 588 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: Like so many of his sketches were classics to me 589 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 4: as a comedy nerd. And then you know, in Tina 590 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: and Amy also like in an update way, those were big. 591 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: I mean, Norm too and Tina Amy were you know, 592 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 4: and Tina on the both writing and update side was 593 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 4: really inspiring, like seeing how she did that and she's 594 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 4: still like I think of her a lot when I'm 595 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: writing sketches because a lot of the sketches she wrote 596 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: were like really joke dense and they had a funny premise. 597 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: They had got you know, good performance things, but they 598 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 4: had a lot of like every line it feels like 599 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 4: it was a joke and it's like a aiming for 600 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: that I think is such a great thing, like to 601 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 4: just remind yourself it's always better if there's more jokes 602 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: and it's more everything is an opportunity for a joke. 603 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: Is after something that you're born with or is that no. 604 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: No, no, I mean I think some people are born 605 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: probably with some inclination to joke around or some innate. 606 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: Some people are obviously naturally really funny, and you know 607 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: they're they're like even if they don't do comedy, they're 608 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: naturally funny. Like some of my friends are lawyers who 609 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: are really funny, or doctors who are really funny, and 610 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: they don't even really think of it. I mean, I 611 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: never knew it was a business. I never knew it 612 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: was a job to go do comedy. Growing up, No 613 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: one I ever met worked in any related anything to 614 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: show business, you know, So I think beyond that, it's 615 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: mostly learned. You know, you're if you're doing and what 616 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: you're drawn to. So all I did, again, I didn't 617 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: know it was a job. But all I cared about 618 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 4: and really memorized and got into as a kid was comedy. 619 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: You know, Sandler's albums I would listen to and memorize, 620 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: like word for word, knowing every line from every movie 621 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: that he did, that Jim Carrey did. 622 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: That's just setting you down a path. 623 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Now you might you might be that path and never 624 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: find the opportunity to be involved in making it. But 625 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: I then I did, and that was then I was like, oh, yeah, 626 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: this is a great way to do it. 627 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: Because I used to love it and now I could 628 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: keep doing it. 629 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Table for two. 630 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: A typical week at Saturday Night Live is incredible stressful. 631 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: There are new sketches to write and rehearse, costumes to design, 632 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: and sets that need to be built. I'm particularly curious 633 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: what's it like for Colin and the staff to work 634 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: with a new host each week. Has there ever been 635 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, the host come and you see them and 636 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: you're like, you know who they are, and then you're like, oh, okay, 637 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: like you get like I'm sure very surprised, like this 638 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: push is actually really good, Like they actually get it. 639 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, when it goes either way, when it goes like, oh, 640 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: this is just you know, not this is going to. 641 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: Be really an uphill battle. 642 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: This person it just doesn't have that, and it happens. 643 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: It can happen different ways throughout the week. Like you 644 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: can have a host who's not that good at the 645 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: read through table, right like even maybe they're not a 646 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: great cold reader. Maybe they're you know, their their process 647 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: is more they're kind of reading it more straight, and 648 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: they're just they're they're going through the character in their 649 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: head because they know it's not the real time, you know, 650 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: they're like more, they're more seeing the character in their 651 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: head instead of performing it. Then yeah, like even or 652 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: there's things like Melissa McCarthy when she hosted, she had 653 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: pieces that she worked on, she wrote, and they were 654 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: fully formed in her head, but she was kind of 655 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: clocking in a different way at the table read, and 656 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: you kind of have to trust, you know that, oh, 657 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: that's going to be folk. 658 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: She knows what she's doing. 659 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously she knows we're doing, but like in 660 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: this particular sketch, she's got this all mapped out and 661 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: yeah or sure or yeah or it's like, you know, 662 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: whatever it is, there could be an element visually that's 663 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: not really in the piece, but she knows in her 664 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: head when she's performing it, or she knows she could 665 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: figure it out. And those have been some of those 666 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 4: sketches that killed the most and were classics for her. 667 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: So it's it's it's that kind of thing. Or there's 668 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: an actor that has their own process, like you know, 669 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: you can be and finding it a little bit in 670 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: a moment or trying to differentiate because you're reading, you're 671 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: reading forty. 672 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: Sketches right at the table read, so to. 673 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 4: Be able to make a choice in all of those 674 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: and that's something like actually, Adam Driver's especially good at 675 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: at the table read, like he'll he makes a choice 676 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: for all those pieces. 677 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: And an interesting choice, and. 678 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: The same way Will Ferrell does in a but you know, 679 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: obviously he knows it in a whole other way, but 680 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: he will, We'll find a new move for all of them. 681 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 4: And it's really a kind of a miracle or maya 682 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: you know, like my real will come back and to 683 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: like have a different character wherever. It's like, it's really 684 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 4: they're very yeah, they really are, and you know, so 685 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: that and then there's hosts that are great at the 686 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: table read because they're great readers. You know, if it 687 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: was an audio series it would be great. But they 688 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: are less performers in space, you know, so you're that 689 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: other part doesn't add in as much as you thought. 690 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: Some people have never done theater. Some people have never 691 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: done live anything live, which is scary, yeah, you know, 692 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: and then some people are it's it's also you're reading 693 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 4: off Q cards mostly, which is a very hard thing. 694 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: If you don't know that. 695 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 4: It's you know, when I started an update, I was like, 696 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: I'm very good at reading. I'm really very good at reading, 697 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 4: and somehow I couldn't do it well at all. And 698 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: I was like in my head, like, why. 699 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: Is this so hard? 700 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: You're like overly concentrating on reading, you know, and you're like, 701 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: just let go of it, don't Why are you worried 702 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: about being able to read in this situation. You're able 703 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: to read signs on the street and just go just read, 704 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: but it's intimidating when you're not used to that and 705 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: let alone changes on the fly. Like Christopher Walking, who's 706 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: obviously one of the best hosts ever. He when he 707 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: posted you and you have things at the table read 708 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: and and you always make changes between the table read 709 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: and dress rehearsal because you're trying to make it better 710 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: or tighter or whatever. 711 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: A joke didn't work, you fix it. 712 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: Christam Walker wun always be like no, leave it and 713 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: you're like, well, no, we didn't got to fix this part. 714 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: He's like, no, leave it, and you're like why He's 715 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: like it's fine. He's like, it's fine. I'd rather I 716 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: don't want it to changes. I'd rather find it figure 717 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: it out as an actor, know the rhythm, have the 718 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: comfort with material, not have all these changes and you know, 719 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: that's another approach that I think really works for him 720 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: and maybe would work more if we did that. But 721 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: you know, the sometimes we get into it's easier now 722 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: to make changes because technology has gotten better, you know, 723 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: like you can type in things fast, but you can 724 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: make it. But maybe that's bad in a way because 725 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: the sometimes the actors are less familiar with the material 726 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: and if they saw a joke the same twice, maybe 727 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: it's not as good a joke, but they'd be able 728 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 4: to find something in the delivery that would make it 729 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 4: better than a new. 730 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: Joke, right. You know. 731 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: During the show itself, the live show, is it daunting 732 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: to look over at Lauren and see his face at 733 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: this point? Can you see in his face when because 734 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: when I've gone to the show and I look at 735 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: him and I swear, I'm like, I have nothing to 736 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: do with the show'rving, I'm like, oh my god, did 737 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: he like that? 738 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: Did he not? 739 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: It's a yes, it is still daunting. 740 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: Or like when he even kind of shows up at 741 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: a when you're rehearsing or something and he kind of 742 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 4: drifts into the back of the room, you're just a 743 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: little bit more on edge and you're you're second guessing 744 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: the like joke about pooping pants that you have in 745 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: and you're like, why did I do this? I wish 746 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: I didn't have to do that for the first time 747 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 4: in front of Lauren whatever it is. You know, like 748 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: there's that kind of feeling. But you know, I've got 749 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 4: you get over that to some extent because he just 750 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: realize like he's seen a lot of bad stuff, so 751 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: you know he's not and he's seen a lot of 752 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: bad stuff get better, and he's seen a lot of you. 753 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: Know, does he throw things out like if he sees 754 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: it just maybe like like one of those passion by 755 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: comments that oh yeah, oh okay, yes, yeah he does. 756 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: He does, and he's judicious about it because he's part 757 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: of it. Is at least for us with update, I 758 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: think now at this point he probably knows that we're 759 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 4: anticipating some of the things he might say in a 760 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 4: good way, not like we're worried about what he's gonna say, 761 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 4: but more like he's taught us some instincts that we 762 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: probably sure so we're like, oh, yeah that if it's 763 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: a joke that he's there rehearsal for and sees it 764 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: bomb where he is pretty confident we're going to fix 765 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 4: it with or or cut it, probably without him having 766 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 4: to specifically say cut that horrible joke. So that but 767 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: he's but he'll give like a you know, he'll just 768 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: give like a small but important note about how you're 769 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 4: playing a certain thing, or the tone or the aftertaste 770 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 4: of a joke, like is that do you really want 771 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: to have that the perception of this joke after the fact, 772 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 4: or something you know, like if especially if it's about someone, 773 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 4: like is it mean to that person? And I'm I'm 774 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 4: very sensitive about that. In general, I'm not a person 775 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 4: who likes doing things that are mean to people. I 776 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: prefer to do it based on what things they do, 777 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 4: like what a are actions, rather than about I don't 778 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: like making fun of people's personal lives that it really 779 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: does not maybe not like that, but but sometimes, like 780 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: you know, I'll have a occasionally I'll have a joke 781 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 4: where I'm like, I think even that person would not 782 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 4: be offended by this joke, but maybe they would be. 783 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, who knows. 784 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: You never know. 785 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: I've had a wonderful lunch with Colin today. I know 786 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: that family plays a huge role in both Colin and 787 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: Scarlet's lives and as our time together winds down, I'm 788 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: interested to know what Colin hopes to share with his 789 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: son as he gets older and you talk about family, 790 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: and family is very important to you, It's very important 791 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: to Scarlet. I've talked to Scarlet about her family when 792 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: we had lunch, and they're wonderful and as are yours 793 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: down to earth. Is there something that you want to 794 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: show your son You want to make sure he sees 795 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: there's so much humor in your family. 796 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much wit and so much intelligence. 797 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: Is there anything that when you think of because when 798 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: you become a parent, it's just everything changes. 799 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 2: It just does. 800 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you I want to do this 801 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: with Cosmo. I want to show him this. 802 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: You know. One thing that's really important to with him 803 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: is I take him swimming a lot whenever I can, 804 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 4: you know, like pool or ocean. 805 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: And he's he's only two, and he's he's a pretty. 806 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 4: Good swimmer, actually, like he's almost independent swimming, which is 807 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 4: kind of crazy. He's a smart he's a smart guy too, 808 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 4: but he's a great such a bunch hit. 809 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: But he I like that. I mean, the water is 810 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: really important to me. 811 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: And yeah, and it's always been something I just you know, 812 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 4: I didn't love always the competitive part of swimming, but 813 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 4: I did love being in a pool, and I'm very 814 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: happy around water all the time. And that's something I'd 815 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: like to share with him in different ways, you know. 816 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 4: The first thing that came to mind was my grandpa. 817 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 4: My grandpa just passed away, and he was he was 818 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: a firefighter, His dad was a firefighter. And he's the one, 819 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: my grandpa who lived next door, and he really helped 820 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 4: to raise me a lot. And I'm really happy he 821 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 4: got two years with Cosmo. In the years to come, 822 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: even though Cosmo I'm sure won't remember that time, I'm 823 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 4: excited to kind of impart elements of my grandpa in him. 824 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 4: His middle name is my grandpa's name, and the spirit 825 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 4: of a lot of the great things my grandpa. A 826 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: curiosity that my grandpa really had, a friendly and outgoing 827 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: of friendliness and ability to go talk to anyone and 828 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 4: engage and really be curious about them, and a real 829 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 4: joy and appreciation for life, like a deep gratitude feeling 830 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 4: like you know what you would say late in life 831 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 4: he would constantly say, like if I go tomorrow, I'm 832 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 4: so happy, you know, like I don't you know, I'm 833 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: not wouldn't be sad. It's all good, you know. And 834 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: and that's like one of the one of the last things, 835 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 4: like on his deathbed that he said to me was like, 836 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 4: don't worry, I'm okay, and he literally said bye bye, 837 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: like kind of funny in a joking way. Yeah, And 838 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: that's the last thing. That's the last words that he 839 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: said to me. And he died that like later that day. 840 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's what I will hopefully 841 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 4: in part and Cosmo, I don't know how much of 842 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 4: it's taught versus in you, but you know, a gratitude 843 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: in it, some kind of grace I think with with 844 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: people is is a great thing. 845 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: Well, that's a beautiful story and I think that, uh, 846 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a beautiful way to sort of wrap 847 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: our beautiful lunch. And Colin, thank you, thank you for 848 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: coming your mind. My family loves you. I love you. 849 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: I love your family. And you know you're just an 850 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: incredibly talented gift to the world. What you how you 851 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: see the world and did you have this platform turn 852 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: presented and you make people happy? 853 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure. 854 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: It's a pleasure in any capacity, but especially with this 855 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: lobster caesar salad and the second lobster that I ordered 856 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: to go. 857 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: Very generous of you. 858 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: My pleasure. 859 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: Ready that I'm going to have shipped exactly. 860 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, Thanks for everyone for pulling up a chair today 861 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: on Table for two with Bruce Bosi and mister Colin 862 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: Joys and We'll. 863 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: See you real soon. 864 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: Table for two with Bruce Bosi is produced by iHeartRadio 865 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: seven three seven Park and Airmail. 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