Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a really
Speaker 1: special podcast for you today because my guest actually is
Speaker 1: a gentleman who I met at one of my daughter's
Speaker 1: Halloween parties. She was over at a friend's house and
Speaker 1: we were sitting around the bonfire in the back and
Speaker 1: Will was there and he started talking about he's a veteran.
Speaker 1: He started talking about his service, and I just thought
Speaker 1: it was so fascinating that I really felt like his
Speaker 1: perspective and his take on this should be shared with people,
Speaker 1: because I'm somebody who I think you all know. I
Speaker 1: was not in the service, and I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends that are veterans. So it's nice for
Speaker 1: me to be able to sit with someone and kind
Speaker 1: of see what it's like to go to be deployed
Speaker 1: to serve and come back home and what that whole
Speaker 1: experience is. And Will was willing to share that with us,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to bring willan Will Dirk's thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining me on the podcast today. And
Speaker 1: it was a pleasure meeting you. So I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that you decided to agree to come on and talk
Speaker 1: about this stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Tutor. It was a pleasure to meet
Speaker 2: you also, and glad to be here and to share
Speaker 2: my experience.
Speaker 1: So one of the things I was just telling you,
Speaker 1: one of the things that struck me is that you
Speaker 1: and your wife are both deployed together, and that's how
Speaker 1: you met. And you were both sitting there the other
Speaker 1: night when we were chatting, or a few months ago
Speaker 1: when we were chatting, and you were talking about your
Speaker 1: experiences when you were deployed, and she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny we were together and we have totally different memories.
Speaker 1: A lot of these things that I just don't even
Speaker 1: remember happened. And I thought that was fascinating because we
Speaker 1: always think that, you know, everybody kind of experienced the
Speaker 1: same thing. But I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: we don't realize as civilians is that everyone comes back
Speaker 1: with different experiences and different scars when they've served.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, my wife, she doesn't remember a
Speaker 2: lot of the statistics and what we did there all
Speaker 2: the time. My mind, I just absorbed all of it
Speaker 2: when I was over there. When we left on September nineteenth,
Speaker 2: after the twin Towers were hit. When we got over
Speaker 2: there and we launched our first planes in at night.
Speaker 2: I remembered standing up on the island of the aircraft
Speaker 2: carrier and just watching those planes take off and the
Speaker 2: sense of pride you have going and you know, going
Speaker 2: into war to defend our country and for who attacked us.
Speaker 2: And I remember that, and she really doesn't remember all
Speaker 2: of those details, but yeah, that was something that I
Speaker 2: will never forget, is seeing those planes take off at
Speaker 2: night for their first bombing runs into Afghanistan. And that
Speaker 2: hits you pretty hard as a nineteen year old kid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to see that happen and to know what's going to
Speaker 2: be happening from here on forward as we were over there,
Speaker 2: and knowing that those planes were going off to protect
Speaker 2: our guys on the ground and that you know, we're
Speaker 2: going to lose people, and that's that was hard to
Speaker 2: take in too. It's just something that you can't really
Speaker 2: comprehend until you go through it. And it was a
Speaker 2: good experience, and yeah, it was. It was something else
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 1: And just for those that are listening, like I said,
Speaker 1: this was a Halloween party. And so we were just
Speaker 1: a few weeks away out from the October seventh attack
Speaker 1: on Israel, and I was asking you about that and
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering from your perspective that night. I mean,
Speaker 1: even now, what kind of memories does that bring up?
Speaker 1: Because everybody's calling it Israel September eleventh, and that was
Speaker 1: really I mean that impacted all of us. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: went and served in like I mean that experience that
Speaker 1: you just talked about, going there knowing that you were
Speaker 1: fighting against someone who had just attacked us. When you
Speaker 1: see this attack on Israel, what is your What kind
Speaker 1: of emotions does that bring up?
Speaker 2: It brings up stirs up a lot, because when, of course,
Speaker 2: when we were attacked, you just want to go out
Speaker 2: and you want to take care of business. You want
Speaker 2: to take care of who who attacked you and hurt you.
Speaker 2: You don't think of anything else. You just think of
Speaker 2: taking care of business. And that's how I feel. Israel
Speaker 2: felt like they were attacked and they're not going to
Speaker 2: let that happened to their people. And so I feel,
Speaker 2: you know, I understand that what they went through, and
Speaker 2: how you just it's you got to try and take
Speaker 2: them out. You got to try and get people that
Speaker 2: attacked you and hurt you and killed your people.
Speaker 1: So as you watch some of these college students and
Speaker 1: knowing that when you were nineteen you were going over
Speaker 1: there to fight. And you see some of these college
Speaker 1: students at some of our most elite colleges talking about
Speaker 1: a ceasefire and saying that Israel has no right to
Speaker 1: fight for themselves. What is your reaction to that.
Speaker 2: It's with not experiencing with not those kids not experiencing
Speaker 2: that and being attacked to say, seize fire and don't
Speaker 2: go after those people that hurt you.
Speaker 1: No one.
Speaker 2: It's hard to get the terrorists because they blend in
Speaker 2: with the civilians, so it's hard to You have to
Speaker 2: go right into the heart of them in order to
Speaker 2: get it. And there there's going to be civilian civilian casualties,
Speaker 2: which is sad, but it's part of every war we've
Speaker 2: ever been in. It it happens. So I just I
Speaker 2: think that you just have that Israel hassages go in
Speaker 2: and do what they're doing. Yeah, it's sad to see
Speaker 2: civilians killed, but the terrorists used the civilians as shields.
Speaker 1: So that was something that struck me when we talked
Speaker 1: that evening was I asked you about this and you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really fight terror and you got
Speaker 1: into that in a way that, like I said, as
Speaker 1: a civilian, I never thought about because I think from
Speaker 1: the outside perspective, we look at war and we're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: these good, good guys go here, the bad guys are here,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty cut and dry, and there are rules
Speaker 1: to war, and we all know and we know there
Speaker 1: are rules, but those of us who have not engaged,
Speaker 1: I don't think we really get what the rules are.
Speaker 1: So you hear people constantly like they're breaking the rules,
Speaker 1: and you're like, do you really know what the rules are?
Speaker 1: But you actually went through that with me and you
Speaker 1: were like, look, you guys don't get what we're dealing
Speaker 1: with on the ground when you fight terror. And you
Speaker 1: went there to fight terror. I mean, these have been
Speaker 1: this has been the war on terror for years. So
Speaker 1: explain a little bit about how the rules of engagement
Speaker 1: are different for you than they are for terrorists.
Speaker 2: So terrorists they don't follow, you know, like we have.
Speaker 2: You can't fire until fired upon terrorists, they just they'll
Speaker 2: just start firing. They'll set up they'll use children, of
Speaker 2: course as a weapon, they'll use any roadside bomb, They'll
Speaker 2: just use whatever they can to disguise it. So we
Speaker 2: can't see it. There's just no They just don't follow
Speaker 2: any rules of any sorts. Where we have rules we
Speaker 2: follow with engaging the enemy, you know, sometimes it has
Speaker 2: to be cleared to engage if we're using mortars or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I said, my buddy was a marine and he
Speaker 2: was telling me some of these things too, where they
Speaker 2: had to have it clear to make sure there's no
Speaker 2: shoppers or jets in the airspace. And so those rules
Speaker 2: that we have to follow really restrict when you're fighting
Speaker 2: terrorism a group of people who don't follow rules. It
Speaker 2: makes us it's like tying your hands behind your back
Speaker 2: and trying to fight, which makes it tough on our
Speaker 2: men and women on the ground to take care of terrorists.
Speaker 2: And they're hard to see, right. They blend in with
Speaker 2: the civilians. They're not wearing a military uniform, and that
Speaker 2: makes it hard to fight them too, because they'll be
Speaker 2: your friend during the day when you're in their village,
Speaker 2: and at night there they're trying to kill you.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. What do you say to people
Speaker 1: who are saying, well, then you can't fight them because
Speaker 1: you can't take the chance of hurting kids, and you
Speaker 1: can't allow you can't allow any of that to happen.
Speaker 1: So just let it stay there, because I mean, if
Speaker 1: you don't fight it, isn't this going to fester and
Speaker 1: become a much bigger terror problem.
Speaker 2: It will, It will keep growing more and more. So
Speaker 2: in order to fight it, Yeah, you have to get
Speaker 2: in and get in there and dig them out. And
Speaker 2: in the process, civilians do get killed or injured, and
Speaker 2: you try to do your best for that not to happen,
Speaker 2: but it does. But the problem is with social media
Speaker 2: and our news, they're always over there and reporting back.
Speaker 2: So that's another that's tough for our men and women
Speaker 2: too to do their job because they're always getting reported
Speaker 2: on and people back home see what we're doing over there.
Speaker 2: And sometimes war it's not pretty. It never will be.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because we were I was on news
Speaker 1: Nation last week and the guy that I was on
Speaker 1: with was really very very much against any war overseas
Speaker 1: and the war in Israel especially, and he was talking
Speaker 1: about we were talking about, well, you've got to understand
Speaker 1: that right now. If you look at the numbers, seventy
Speaker 1: five percent of these people in Gaza are supportive of
Speaker 1: Hamas and they are supportive of what happened on October seventh,
Speaker 1: and so you're really in an ugly situation because unless
Speaker 1: you take Hamas out of there, unless you can remove
Speaker 1: this government that is manipulating people, manipulating their minds, how
Speaker 1: do you have any type of living condition over there?
Speaker 1: And he said, well, you're saying seventy twenty five percent,
Speaker 1: don't just to die. And I think it was interesting
Speaker 1: because Dan Abrams kind of stepped in and he was like,
Speaker 1: hey man, this is war. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I think I've seen so much on social media is
Speaker 1: that people are like, let's just not do this. But
Speaker 1: it's the good guys that would then be not doing
Speaker 1: this since stepping back. They did this on October seven.
Speaker 1: Nobody did this but them's there's no coming back from that.
Speaker 1: Now they still have hostages. I mean, my goodness, they
Speaker 1: took hostages and we gave them that the Israelis negotiated
Speaker 1: out fifty of the two hundred and forty and gave
Speaker 1: them three times as many criminals. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't get away with that. You have to
Speaker 2: stop them. You have to go in like Israel said,
Speaker 2: We're not going to let this ever happen again. Well,
Speaker 2: in order to do that, you have to go in
Speaker 2: and wipe them out. You have to take them out.
Speaker 2: So as Israel's going in and going house to house
Speaker 2: and finding tunnels and you know, taking them out, that's
Speaker 2: how you do it. I mean, they're they're getting the
Speaker 2: civilians out the best they can, but it's a war zone.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy to get the people out.
Speaker 1: You mentioned your friend who is a marine, and when
Speaker 1: we talked that night, you were talking about how there
Speaker 1: were techniques that they used to get these terrorists to
Speaker 1: come out, and that was a lot of times playing
Speaker 1: babies crying, like loud babies crying, playing over and over
Speaker 1: and they would sit there and they would then also
Speaker 1: be listening to this or listening to loud music. And
Speaker 1: now those noises, these guys, these men and women have
Speaker 1: come back. And for as much as that was to
Speaker 1: get out these terrorists, get them out into clear sight,
Speaker 1: that is also pretty triggering for these guys because they
Speaker 1: went through trauma when they're over there. So explain a
Speaker 1: little bit about what that was like for your friend
Speaker 1: and what that's like now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he being over there. He served a year
Speaker 2: in Iraq, and yeah, he would say, they played loud
Speaker 2: babies crying and loud music, rock music just to drive
Speaker 2: to the terrorists crazy to where they'd come out and
Speaker 2: then they could engage them in combat. And so now
Speaker 2: he's at home or at work or wherever, he'll hear
Speaker 2: these sounds, but there's nothing playing sometimes in it. He
Speaker 2: loses a lot of sleep over it, and it's hard
Speaker 2: for him sometimes to listen to certain music. He says, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's certain times I don't. I don't really listen to
Speaker 2: certain songs anymore. I can't. I can't listen to him
Speaker 2: or even hear them because they'll trigger memories from from
Speaker 2: the war. So it's hard on him. It's there's times
Speaker 2: where he doesn't sleep much at all and shares that
Speaker 2: with me, which is nice. He can get that off
Speaker 2: his chest and help him get through through it to
Speaker 2: where maybe one day he will be able to get
Speaker 2: a full night dress and listen to that music again,
Speaker 2: but it will take a lot of time.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that you were talking about,
Speaker 1: when they're out there and these guys are not abiding
Speaker 1: by the rules of engagement, you could be as a marine.
Speaker 1: You could be stationed on a hill where you can
Speaker 1: see them planting bombs, roadside bombs, and if they're not
Speaker 1: engaging you, there is nothing you can do. But you
Speaker 1: can see them doing this. And this is going to
Speaker 1: affect people in our military. How is it possible that
Speaker 1: that you can't do anything? That seems crazy?
Speaker 2: That would be where they wouldn't get permission to mortar
Speaker 2: them because of there could be choppers in the area
Speaker 2: or jets in the area, and so he said they
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get permission to take out the
Speaker 2: terrorists while they were doing that, and they would just
Speaker 2: have to sit and watch and then watch the convoy
Speaker 2: come up the next day or so and get hit.
Speaker 2: So that was hard to do because they could have
Speaker 2: prevented that. And he said, well, you don't hear anything
Speaker 2: flying through the air. You don't see anything. He's like,
Speaker 2: we could have just quickly launched a few mortars and
Speaker 2: taken them right out, but the rules won't allow them to.
Speaker 2: So that was tough on them too.
Speaker 1: So for all this grief that our service members get
Speaker 1: during wartime, I mean, this is what you're dealing with
Speaker 1: on the ground. These are hard decisions. You're watching really
Speaker 1: horrific things happen, and that was obviously a war on terror.
Speaker 1: We see this now in Israel. But as someone who
Speaker 1: was over there and engaged yourself, when you saw the
Speaker 1: pull out from Afghanistan, what did you think of that?
Speaker 2: I had mixed feelings about that. One. I felt all
Speaker 2: the sacrifice that our military put in, all the men
Speaker 2: and women, all those years that we put in there,
Speaker 2: and the people that we were able to help and
Speaker 2: we're able to live a good life just went right
Speaker 2: down the drain and they just went right back to
Speaker 2: the old ways that it was. And that just broke
Speaker 2: my heart from me because we made progress and then it
Speaker 2: was all gone. And to me, I thought, well why then,
Speaker 2: why why do you even try to do anything? And
Speaker 2: then the other part of me was like, well, you
Speaker 2: have to do something And it wasn't my decision to
Speaker 2: pull them out. Is it a good thing that they're home, Yes,
Speaker 2: but all the progress we made was lost. And that's
Speaker 2: what the tough thing is to fight terrorism. You can't
Speaker 2: gain when you're trying to fight terrorism unless you stay
Speaker 2: the course the whole way. But then you would have
Speaker 2: to constantly be in Afghanistan and keep pushing them back
Speaker 2: because terrorism. I don't think we'll go away.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So what is the answer to
Speaker 1: fighting terrorism? I mean, it's funny because I was talking
Speaker 1: to my pastor about this and he's like, this is
Speaker 1: these are wars that have gone on for thousands of years,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny when you hear like the
Speaker 1: the pundit or the social media influencer who comes out
Speaker 1: and it's like, I've got the solution for this. We're
Speaker 1: just going to sit down and have these two groups
Speaker 1: talk and we're not gonna have any dangerous killing or anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, what happened on October seventh was incomprehensible. I
Speaker 1: think because it was incomprehensible, that's where so many people
Speaker 1: have been like, hey, let's just not do anything. You know,
Speaker 1: it stopped. Now it's over, and they can't really fully
Speaker 1: comprehend what these people in Israel have experienced, what they
Speaker 1: have suffered, what they've lost, but what also they have seen.
Speaker 1: And so we look at this and we go, okay, well,
Speaker 1: this war on terror is extending now to Israel. But
Speaker 1: This war between Israel and Hamas has been going on
Speaker 1: for years and years and years. So is your opinion
Speaker 1: that it is possible to wipe out Jimas.
Speaker 2: I think you can, and to an extent, I think
Speaker 2: you can push them way back, but I think they'll
Speaker 2: always be there. I think they're always the terrorists are
Speaker 2: always going to be somewhere. You may be able to
Speaker 2: push them back and shrink it way down, but I
Speaker 2: don't think you'll ever eradicate them off the face of
Speaker 2: this earth.
Speaker 1: What do you think the best way is for us
Speaker 1: to support our men and women who are serving and
Speaker 1: those who come home, Because I know you and I
Speaker 1: have talked about this as well. Folks that are coming
Speaker 1: home are feeling lost, and there's this in many cases
Speaker 1: we have, I mean we have what twenty two veteran
Speaker 1: suicides every single day. Yeah, this is something that it
Speaker 1: seems like it's not happening through the VA, It's not
Speaker 1: happening through government programs. Are there programs that are supporting
Speaker 1: our men and women that you would say, hey, if
Speaker 1: you have the ability to support these programs, put your
Speaker 1: money there, put your volunteer time there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If there are private ones, yes, absolutely, I think
Speaker 2: the VA and the government could step up, step up
Speaker 2: a little more and offer more things to our veterans,
Speaker 2: maybe even direct them to private places, private organanizations if
Speaker 2: they can, and help them get to that place they
Speaker 2: need assistance. I think, I think our country always it
Speaker 2: to them to give them assistance to either travel to
Speaker 2: get to the place, financial something to help them out,
Speaker 2: whatever they can do to step up.
Speaker 1: I mean, we hear so much about trying to make
Speaker 1: sure people can get their healthcare in other ways, you know,
Speaker 1: we hear about we're going to pay for the private
Speaker 1: jet to take you to get your personal health care.
Speaker 1: We're going to make sure that this you have access
Speaker 1: to this or that if you fall into this category
Speaker 1: or that category. Why do you think that there is
Speaker 1: not a greater push for this for our veterans. Do
Speaker 1: you think that this falls on politicians? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: it should be something the government is providing, and yet
Speaker 1: this is not really a top conversation when it comes
Speaker 1: time for an election.
Speaker 2: No, and I agree. I I feel that yes, it's
Speaker 2: a volunteer. We sign up. We know that we could
Speaker 2: be going to combat, we could be going into harm's way,
Speaker 2: but there's no training to prepare to prepare you for
Speaker 2: what you'll see, what you'll do. So when we come home,
Speaker 2: I think it would be on the best interest of
Speaker 2: the government to make sure that the person they just
Speaker 2: sent to war is taken care of and can come
Speaker 2: back into civilian life, because it's it's not as easy
Speaker 2: as just you're discharged, now go get a job. I
Speaker 2: was listening to the radio the other day and there
Speaker 2: was a marine on there saying, when you're in the military,
Speaker 2: you have a purpose. You put your uniform on, you
Speaker 2: know what you're doing every day. When you get out,
Speaker 2: you don't have that uniform on anymore, you feel lost.
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: You know you have in the military, it's very regimented.
Speaker 2: You have this to do, this job, this task, this mission.
Speaker 2: When you get out, if you don't have that anymore
Speaker 2: and you've been doing it for some time, it's hard
Speaker 2: to adjust back into that civilian life. So that you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's I don't know how to
Speaker 2: fix that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there are organizations. Before I let you go,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you there's this new trend on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this. It is service
Speaker 1: members who are currently in active duty somewhere, whether they're
Speaker 1: in training or they're over deployed, they are currently service
Speaker 1: members and they are filming videos of five reasons why
Speaker 1: you should never join the military. We already have recruitment
Speaker 1: that is way down, and I think that these trends
Speaker 1: on social media, I mean, we see these trends in
Speaker 1: every other area. How devastating is it to see And
Speaker 1: what would you share from your experience to tell people
Speaker 1: that they should join the military.
Speaker 2: From my experience, the military was a great experience for me.
Speaker 2: It helped me grow as a as a person. It
Speaker 2: helped me to have that drive to enjoy everything I
Speaker 2: have in my country that I have here, all the
Speaker 2: freedoms we have, and just knowing that those freedoms could
Speaker 2: go away at any time. If someone doesn't step up
Speaker 2: to protect them, then we could lose them. One thing
Speaker 2: I can say is, yeah, is it always fun? No,
Speaker 2: it's tough times in there. I had a lot of
Speaker 2: tough times. So it helps you grow and helps you realize, Hey,
Speaker 2: the country we live in and what I did or
Speaker 2: the people next to me, did you know we have
Speaker 2: the freedom to do, have freedom of speech and do
Speaker 2: what we want so and it gives you that sense
Speaker 2: of a pride where you live, knowing that you stood
Speaker 2: up and said I'll defend it to the best of
Speaker 2: my ability, all the way up to death. So for
Speaker 2: people you know out there who are protesting against the military,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's something that should be done. You
Speaker 2: should encourage people to join and protect their country and
Speaker 2: their loved ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, well, I mean, we are so grateful to
Speaker 1: you for your service. And I watch these TikTok trends
Speaker 1: and I think this is just to become personally famous,
Speaker 1: and this I have to say, I don't think this
Speaker 1: is about true military service. And if you are serving,
Speaker 1: then you've chosen to serve for a reason. I think
Speaker 1: that these trends have to go by the wayside. But
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate what you've done for us,
Speaker 1: and I think that people should know you also had
Speaker 1: a lifelong friend that you met when you were there,
Speaker 1: So you ended up meeting your wife while you were serving,
Speaker 1: and now you have two children together.
Speaker 2: We do, Yes, that was yeah, eighteen years married now,
Speaker 2: and it was very It was an honor to serve
Speaker 2: with my wife and be deployed overseas together. And the
Speaker 2: one of the biggest things too that I miss there
Speaker 2: the men and women I served with. That camaraderie you build,
Speaker 2: you can't find that anywhere else. It's a special bond
Speaker 2: between everyone. So whoever you know, people want to join that.
Speaker 2: You meet so many different people from all over the country,
Speaker 2: and it helps you broaden your experience and the views
Speaker 2: of other people too, from different states. That was really
Speaker 2: helpful to me just growing up in a small town,
Speaker 2: meeting people who've never seen snow before, or you know,
Speaker 2: the little things you don't think about. So that's a
Speaker 2: big thing too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that when I hear people talking about
Speaker 1: their service, their time and the service and that camaraderie,
Speaker 1: I think that's so important for us to talk about
Speaker 1: because right now, the reason we see a lot of
Speaker 1: these young people that are joining protests and getting involved
Speaker 1: in these clubs that are that are negative in some
Speaker 1: ways because they're looking for a place of belonging. And
Speaker 1: we've talked about it several times on this program. There
Speaker 1: are ways to have that place that home that are
Speaker 1: different than getting involved in something that is a protest.
Speaker 1: You there is faith, and there is service, and these
Speaker 1: are two great places to build community. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of our service members come home and they
Speaker 1: come home from that camaraderie and they join into a
Speaker 1: faith community, and that is Those are two places where
Speaker 1: you can be involved in something that is way bigger
Speaker 1: than you and you can get a lot out of
Speaker 1: that and learn a lot from that and then pass
Speaker 1: that along to other people. And I appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: on today to talk about your experience. Will Dirksey, thank you,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Thank you, Tutor, and thank you all for
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