1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Missed in History Class from house 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hello and welcomed the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly fry. So. Recently, because 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I had just spent three weeks researching the Doctor's Riot 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: and then the Battle of Blair Mountains and then the 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Tulsa Race riot, I asked on Facebook for suggestions of 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: things that were happier talk about. Yeah. Yeah, that's a 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: lot of heavy content to be dealing with. It was, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: and among the suggestions that we got were down winders, 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: which are the people who lived downwind of the fallout 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: from nuclear weapons tests. Also the Holocaust. Also the ps 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: General Slocum, which burned up and led to the deaths 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: of more than a thousand people. Someone suggested a mass lynching, 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: and someone else suggested the Irish War of Independence, in 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: which more than two thousand people die at including more 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: than seven hundred civilians. So what this tells me is 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: we either have lots of comedians among the listeners or 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: a lot of really dark people in terms of their 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: outlook on life. Well, we are all good ideas, they're 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: just not what I was asking for at all. We 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: did get many that were a little happier, and Randy, 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, asked us to talk about longitude, 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: and he followed it with eight exclamation points. And so 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: that story has clocks and science and an inventor and shipwrecks, 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: but mostly preventing the shipwrecks. So that seemed like an 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: awesome place to start in terms of doing something a 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: little happier. Um, of course, as things often go, it's 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: not actually a completely happy story, but it is not 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: so devastating as some of my recent research, and certainly 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: not as devastating as the Holocaust or a mass lynching. No. 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: So uh. Just about everybody probably remembers uh from elementary 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: school that we measure coordinates and locations in longitude and latitude. 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: These concepts have been around at least since Ptolemy's time, 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: and around the year one fifty he created an atlas 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: that used a grid of lines both to mark the 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: maps and to index all of the places in them. 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: People have also known how to find their north south 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: position even before we had the idea of latitude. The 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Phoenicians were doing it as early as six d BC. 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: Most techniques for doing this involve measuring the height of 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: heavenly bodies from the horizon at a specific time, and 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: we'll link to some step by step instructions on how 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: to do this and show notes for curious people. Rather 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: than trying to explain it to you right now. That 45 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: would be uh, some knowledge I would like to have. Well, 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: I was originally typing it into these notes and it 47 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: got extremely long. Yeah, anytime you get into directions on 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: how to do things, it can spiral out of control 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: in a hurry. Additionally, a few seafaring people's had some 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: other tricks for figuring out roughly where they were on 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: the globe, like observing the flights of birds and the 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: patterns of waves. However, is a general rule once people 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: lost sight of land, they didn't really have a reliable 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: way of figuring out how far east or west they'd gone, 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: in other words, how to measure their longitude. It's also 56 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: applied basically anywhere you could lose sight of familiar landmarks. 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: So even though we're talking about the ocean today, it 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: also that's the same rule applied with deserts or mountain 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: ranges that hadn't been explored. Um uh, and it led 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to some problems Besides the obvious inability to answer the 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: question where are we? Also unanswerable word do we have 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: enough to eat until we get to where we're going 63 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: at the rate we're traveling? Uh? And for sea travelers, 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: are we about to run into anything? That last one 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: is especially important. It led to a lot of maritime 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: does masters as ships ran aground on reefs and land 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: masses that people knew were there but didn't know we're 68 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: right there. We've talked about those in some of our 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: previous episodes, and this problem was particularly the case starting 70 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: in the late fifteenth century, as more and more ships 71 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: tried to travel across oceans instead of just sticking along coastlines. 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: You couldn't even rely on your best guests and a map, 73 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: as people you know, started making maps of all this 74 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: unexplored area, because most of the maps were wildly inaccurate 75 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: in terms of their longitudinal measurements. Anyway to put the 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: sea monsters in the wrong place. Yes, Most of the 77 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: methods that people tried for figuring out how to measure 78 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: longitude hinged on one question, which was what time is it? 79 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: So when you're traveling east, local time moves ahead an 80 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: hour for each fifteen degrees of longitude that you travel, 81 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: and the opposite is true for every fifteen degrees that 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: you move west. So if you have a reference time 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: that you can use as a starting point, you can 84 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: figure out what time it is where you are now, 85 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: usually using the sun, and you can compare the difference 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: between those two times to calculate your longitude. Dutch mathematician 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Gemma Frigius proposed using a clock to keep an accurate 88 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: reference time all the way back in fifteen thirty, but 89 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: no clock at that point was actually accurate enough to 90 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: do the job, not even a clock that was sitting 91 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: on land, and at sea clocks were even less accurate 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: because the motion of the ship interacted with the motion 93 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: of the clock's pendulum, and changes in temperature and humidity 94 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: could also mess up the inner workings. Galileo got in 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: on the action in sixteen thirteen, and he was using 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: the eclipses of Jupiter's moons as a reference point rather 97 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: than just starting with an ordinary clock. His big, big 98 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: idea was to make eclipse charts that sailors could use 99 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: at sea, but he was never really satisfied with the 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: accuracy of the charts that he put together, and then 101 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: in sixteen sixty seven, Cassini built on the work of 102 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: both Galileo and phrasiasts to prove that the basic ideas 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: at least were in fact sound. First, he measured the 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: eclipses of Jupiter's moons from a position in Paris, and 105 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: then he went to the island of Gory in the 106 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: West Indies and measured them again, comparing what time they 107 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: occurred in Gory to what time they were predicted to 108 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: occur in Paris. And the speciment was pretty accurate, but 109 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: even so it was not really practical to use it 110 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: on a ship. The telescopes at the time were too unwieldy. 111 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: The ship really needed to be perfectly still to be 112 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: able to observe and measure the eclipses accurately. Plus timing 113 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: the eclipses themselves still required an accurate clock, like just 114 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: counting one one thousand was not going to be accurate enough. Uh, 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and an accurate clock was still a problem. And running 116 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: parallel to all of this scientific work, nations recognized how 117 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: important it was to the merchants and their naties to 118 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: be able to measure longitude, so they started offering incentives 119 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: for people to solve this problem. Philip the second of 120 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Spain offered a prize to whoever could figure it out 121 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: in fifteen sixty seven, and still up the third did 122 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the same. In England and France both started observatories in 123 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the late seventeenth century and their goal was to use 124 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: astronomy to navigate. The use of astronomical charts, sex stints 125 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: and the position of the Moon to determine longitude became 126 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: known as lunars um. Although this was really difficult to 127 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: do and for a long time until astronomers worked out 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: some irregularities with the moon's motion, it was also not accurate. 129 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: So eventually a maritime disaster really launched England into a 130 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: bona fide effort to solve this problem. And we're going 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: to talk about that after a quick word from our sponsor. 132 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Let's do a lot of great minds have been pondering 133 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: for a very long time about how to solve the 134 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: launch team problem. And then in October of seventeen o seven, 135 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Admiral their cloud Asy shovels fleet was shipwrecked off of Sicily. 136 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Four ships were driven into the rocks thanks to high 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: winds because their measurements were off from their actual positions. 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: More than two thousand men were lost, and the quartermaster 139 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: of one of the ships was the only survivor. This 140 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: wreck is usually cited as one being mostly due to 141 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: the longitude problem, and two as being the thing that 142 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: really got Great Britain to focus on solving it. It 143 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: was definitely an immense loss of both property and life. However, 144 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: to some degree it was also a little bit of 145 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: a scapegoat. The incorrect measurements were actually farther off in 146 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: terms of latitude than they were in terms of measuring 147 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the longitude. An Admiral Shovel was a highly decorated and 148 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: experienced admiral. Nobody wanted to blame him for the disaster, 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: so longitude really got the thing or of blame, regardless 150 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: of how much longitude really was responsible for what happened. 151 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Parliament passed the Longitude Act in July of seventeen fourteen, 152 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: which read, in part, whereas it is well known by 153 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: all that are acquainted with the art of navigation, that 154 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: nothing is so much wanted and desired at sea as 155 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: the discovery of the longitude for the safety and quickness 156 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: of the voyages, the preservation of ships, and the lives 157 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: of men. And whereas, in the judgment of able mathematicians 158 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: and navigators. Several methods have already been discovered, true in theory, 159 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: though very difficult in practice, some of which there is 160 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: reason to expect, may be capable of improvement, Some already 161 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: discovered may be proposed to the public, and others may 162 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: be invented hereafter. So the Longitude Act goes on to 163 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: say that discovery would be of particular advantage to Great Britain, 164 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: but that it's also difficult and expensive, and so it 165 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: names several people as Commissioners of Longitude, and it sets 166 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: a cash prime is for a practical and exact method. 167 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: It was ten thousand pounds to within one degree, fifteen 168 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: thousand pounds UH to two thirds of a degree, and 169 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty thousand pounds if it could be as exact as 170 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: within half of a degree. And this method had to 171 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: be proven out while in a six week voyage to 172 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: the East Indies. In terms of a clock. To be 173 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: able to earn this grand prize, the clock could not 174 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: gain or lose more than three seconds a day, since 175 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: that would add up to two minutes or half a 176 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: degree over a six week trip. The Commissioners of Longitude 177 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: later became the Board of Longitude and this board drew 178 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: from scholars and military minds. It included three professors of 179 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: mathematics from Cambridge and Oxford, as well as the Astronomer 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Royal and the President of the Royal Society. Also included 181 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: were the First Lord of the Admiralty, the First Commissioner 182 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: of the Navy Board, and the Speaker of the House 183 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: of Commons simultaneously. A lot of people really thought this 184 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: was a fool's errand, and a lot of the suggestions 185 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: that came in were completely cockamami like. For example, someone 186 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: suggested that they stationed ships at regular intervals all over 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: the ocean where they could use lights and noise to 188 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: provide guide points. Um. There was also a really wacky 189 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: theory that had to do with complete pseudoscience and involved 190 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: wounded dogs and a bandages. It was really strange um 191 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: and very silly, and a lot of people started using 192 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: discovering the longitude as a synonym for doing something completely impossible. 193 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Many many clockmakers and scientists had tried to make a 194 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: clock that could keep accurate time at sea. At this point, 195 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: they had tried springs, they had tried vacuum sealed chambers, 196 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: in all manner of other techniques and technology to try 197 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: to protect the clock from motion and from the elements, 198 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: and some of them had actually met with limited success. 199 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: They kept good time in fair weather and relatively smooth seas, 200 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: but one thing. Once things got wet and rocky, they 201 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: started to falter in their accuracy. The man who made 202 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: this all work finally was John Harrison. We know almost 203 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: nothing about Harrison's childhood or early life, or about his 204 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: personal life outside of his clockmaking. He was born on 205 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: March twenty four, sixtee and he was the oldest of 206 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: five children. In seventeen eighteen, he married a woman named 207 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Barrell, and they had a son the next summer. 208 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: She died when the boy was six, and he remarried 209 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: a woman named Elizabeth Scott. They went on to have 210 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: two more children, and their marriage lasted for fifty years. 211 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Harrison learned to be a woodworker from his father, and 212 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: he had no formal training making clocks. Most of his 213 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: other education was self taught with the help of books 214 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: he borrowed, and he was only twenty when he made 215 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: his first pendulum clock, almost entirely from wood. It's really 216 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: unclear how he figured out how to do this, considering 217 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: that he had no background in work uh and his 218 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: family wasn't well enough off to a four o'clock, and 219 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: there were no known clockmakers living anywhere near where he 220 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: grew up, So it's a little hazy where he got 221 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: this information and knowledge. It reminds me a little bit 222 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: of Benjamin Bannaker, who he talked about him making a 223 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: clock after he took apart a pocket watch that somebody 224 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: had loaned to him. Harrison built two more wooden clocks 225 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: over the next few years, and by seventeen twenty he 226 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: developed a reputation for being really good at making clocks. 227 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: He had a knack for figuring out ingenious ways to 228 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: improve on existing technology. He was afraid of rust, so 229 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: he used brass instead of iron or steel, instead of 230 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: relying on lubricants. All the clocks at this point really 231 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: had to be lubricated to make their inner workings go. 232 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: He tried using woods that secreted their own oil to 233 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: make the gears out of He also designed his wooden 234 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: gears so that they used the grain of the wood 235 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: to make them stronger. And since pendulums expand and contract 236 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: with changes in temper sure, which makes the clocks inaccurate, 237 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: he used combinations of metals that expanded and contracted at 238 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: different rates and canceled each other out ingenious. I know, 239 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: it's just you love hearing about someone who just has 240 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: so many insights into ways to solve problems. I'm pretty 241 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: sure when we put this episode on our Facebook, somebody's 242 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna put the Aliens guy on the thread. That's fine, 243 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: I love the Aliens guy. Uh, We're not sure when 244 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Harrison heard about the Longitude Prize, but later in life 245 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: he noted noted that it was on his mind. By 246 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: sevente he had already tackled some of the obstacles that 247 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: threw off clocks at sea, most particularly the lubricating oils 248 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: that got thicker and thinner depending on the weather. So 249 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: his clocks that ran without it had a leg up already, 250 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: and he just needed to figure out how to compensate 251 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: for the motion of the ship. His first attempt became 252 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: known as H one, and this was a big, heavy, 253 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: blocky brass thing with four files on the front that 254 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: showed hours, minutes, seconds, and the day of the month. 255 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: The whole thing worked without any lubrication, and in place 256 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: of a pendulum, it used these bar shaped balances that 257 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: were connected by springs, and they canceled out the motion 258 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: of the ship. This design drew high praise from Edmund Halley, 259 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: who was on the Board of Longitude at the time, 260 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: and it was approved to be sent on a test 261 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: voyage to the East Indies. The Admiralty didn't send it 262 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: on the voyage for more than a year, though, and 263 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: they sent it to Lisbon instead of the East Indies, 264 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: and on top of that, the captain died shortly after arrival. 265 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Even so, the h one proved to be more accurate 266 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: than the ship's master's reckoning of their position, and soon 267 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: after Harrison arrived back in England in June seventeen thirty seven, 268 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the Board of Longitude convened for the first time since 269 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: its inception to discuss his invention. So success yea, but 270 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: instead of jumping at the prize money, Harrison said he 271 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: wanted to make his invention better. He asked two more 272 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: years to work on a smaller, improved version, and he 273 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: also asked for five hundred pounds to subsidize his work. 274 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: The Board also agreed that on the next test voyage 275 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: some other qualified person could accompany the clock. Because Harrison 276 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: had been profoundly sea sick during the Lisbon voyage. That's 277 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: not fun. That's not a fun way to live. I 278 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: hate se sickness. I empathize. I don't know anybody that 279 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: loves it, but when you're really prone to it, my 280 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: understanding is that it's really quite non delightful. Uh. Harrison 281 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: presented the H two so his second version in January. 282 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: It was heavier and bigger, and it used circular balances 283 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: instead of the bar shaped ones, which compensated for the 284 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: ship's motion even better than the first version. But Harrison 285 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: still thought he could improve on it, so he spent 286 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: the next nineteen years on the H three. When he 287 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: finally finished, he was really satisfied that it would do 288 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: the job. Like his old pendulums, the H three used 289 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: two medals to counteract one another's expansions and contractions. The 290 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: clock also needed no lubrication, and both of the innovations 291 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: that he used to achieve this still exists today, the 292 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: metal in the form of bimetallic strips that are used 293 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: in thermostats, and the lubrication free workings in the form 294 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: of caged ball bearings that are still used in all 295 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: kinds of machines. His resulting clock was also lighter and smaller, 296 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: but it did have a really really large number of 297 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: moving parts. And yet there's more. A few years earlier, 298 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: a watchmaker named John Jeffreys had made Harrison a pocket 299 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: watch using Harrison's specifications and bimetallic components. Harrison hadn't thought 300 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: at all about using anything so small and portable to 301 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: keep time on a ship, but Jeffrey's pocket watch kept 302 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: time extremely well, so Harrison decided to make another time 303 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: piece that looked more like a pocket watch. Yeah, at 304 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: this point, little pocket watches were not They were not 305 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: very accurate, and they're pretty fiddly, and they had to 306 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: be wound every day. They had a lot of downsides, 307 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: and so he had never thought about trying to do 308 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: it that way, But after getting this gift, he did, 309 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: and the resulting H four was finished in seventeen fifty nine. 310 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: It weighed only three pounds and it measured five inches across, 311 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: so too big and heavy to really be carried in 312 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: a pocket, but it looked a lot like a pocket watch. 313 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: It definitely was much much smaller and nimbler than the 314 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: other versions he had made. This did come with some tradeoffs, though, 315 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: Unlike the earlier models, it did require lubrication, and it 316 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: needed to be wound every day, and required some regular 317 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: maintenance and cleaning to keep it running. But it's portable, 318 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: and you also read it just like you'd read a 319 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: regular clock, and as was proved on a voyage, it 320 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: was more accurate than required for the twenty thousand pound 321 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: grand prize. However, he did not immediately rebend lots of 322 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: prize money because there was drama. The Age four went 323 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: on a test voyage to Jamaica, which, as we referenced 324 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: before the break, it passed with flying colors, but the 325 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: trial was thrown out on a technicality. Harrison was supposed 326 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: to use the eclipses of Jupiter's moons to to confirm 327 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the longitude in Jamaica, and he didn't do that. He 328 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't know that he was supposed to do it. He 329 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: wound up getting it like a smaller sort of consolation 330 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: prize that would make me her rumph uh. Meanwhile, to 331 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: other two astronomers, Neville Mascaline and James Bradley, the latter 332 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: being the astronomer royal on the Longitude Board, had been 333 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: in pursuit of the prize through lunar methods. As we 334 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Unlike Harrison, they both had formal standing 335 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: and a presence in the academic community. They and others 336 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: advocated strongly for a lunar solution to the longitude problem, 337 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: not a mechanical and when Bradley died, his replacement, Nathaniel Bliss, 338 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: was similarly tied to the lunar idea. This was one 339 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: of those weird things where the fact that they both 340 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: had formal educations made people believe them more than they 341 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: believed someone who was self taught. But then also a 342 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: lot of people seem to have this really weird idea 343 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that the harder method would be better somehow than one 344 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: that was easy. Uh, sometimes I do that in life, 345 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: so I can't judge them too harshly. Yeah. So Neville 346 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Maskeline became Harrison's nemesis. He became the official observer for 347 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: Harrison's do over of his trial of the Age four, 348 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: even though Maskelin had a vested interest in his own 349 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: work winning the prize. In spite of Maskeline's involvement, the 350 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: H four did pass its second test again, once again 351 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: with flying colors, and after a long delay, the Board 352 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: of Longitude granted Harrison half the prize, promising the remainder 353 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: if he handed over all of his prior work and 354 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: built two more models of the H four. But as 355 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: time passed, George the Third started adding more requirements to 356 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the Longitude Act, which at this point was more than 357 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: fifty years old, and some of these requirements specifically referred 358 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: to Harrison and his work. Harrison's relationship with the Board 359 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: became progressively more and more adversarial. The Board kept demanding 360 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: that he dismantled and reassemble the H four and the 361 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: presence of observers, which had never been part of the 362 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: requirements and which you know, Harrison was logically afraid that 363 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: someone was going to steal his idea. Mascalin, who was 364 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: still acting as Harrison's taskmaster, also at the same time 365 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: started publishing his own astronomical charts for people to use 366 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: instead of this clock idea. All of this craziness dragged 367 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: on and on, and even though the H four had 368 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: been proven to work as it was supposed to, Masculine 369 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: collected it along with all of Harrison's other time pieces 370 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: to subject it to ten months more of tests, and 371 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: which he insisted on conducting himself. And these tests went 372 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: on from May of seventeen sixty six to March of 373 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: seventeen sixty seven. And not only did the H four fail, 374 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: but it also never worked properly after this. Yes, possible 375 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: masculine had something to do with that fact. Yeah, he 376 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: also short walk to get there. Yeah. He also handled 377 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: all the other clocks really roughly in transporting them, Like 378 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: one of them was dropped while loading it onto the 379 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: cart that was going to take them to London, and 380 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: the cart that took them to London was just inordinately 381 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: bad and very rattily and shaky. He just did not 382 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: take care with the whole thing. So, finally, after a 383 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: great deal of angry back and forth, Harrison did actually 384 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: make two more H four's watchmaker Larkham Kendall made a 385 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: reproduction as well, which he called K one, which took 386 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: him more than two years to complete. K one on 387 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Captain James Cook's second voyage. He had previously spoken very 388 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: highly of the lunar method. Meanwhile, Harris had moved on 389 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: to making yet another watch, which was the H five. 390 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: As this was happening, his son William wrote to King 391 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: George the Third, this letter detailing all of his father's 392 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: work and how difficult things had been with the Longitude Board. 393 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: Um as later reported by William Harrison's son John so 394 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: the John Harrison clockmaker's grandson, King George said, these people 395 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: have been cruelly treated by God. Harrison, I will see 396 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: you righted. King George went to the Prime Minister at 397 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: this point, and the Prime Minister then went to the Board, 398 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: and finally, in April of seventeen seventy three, Harrison was 399 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: granted eight thousand, seven hundred and fifty pounds, which was 400 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: most of the difference between the ten thousand he had 401 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: been given earlier and the twenty thousand that he had 402 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: earned by completing this task. But it's specific quickly was 403 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: not the grand prize. Although the Board of Longitude was 404 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: in existence for a hundred and fourteen years and it 405 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: ultimately spent a hundred and one thousand pounds and an 406 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: attempts to crack the longitude problem, it never awarded the 407 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty thousand pound prize to anyone. One of the arguments 408 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: that was made against Harrison getting it was that the 409 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: H four was too expensive and time consuming to mass produce. 410 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean it had taken this other watchmaker, Larkham Kendall 411 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: two years to make up one reproduction of it. Um. 412 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: None of this had been part of the original stipulations though. Yeah, 413 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: it does seem a little harassing at that point. Yeah, 414 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: it really starts to feel like the board was just like, 415 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to part with that money. Yeah. However, 416 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Captain Cook was absolutely glowing about the K one when 417 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: he returned from his journey. He said that it quote 418 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: exceeded the expectations of its most zealous advocate and called 419 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: it our faithful guide through all vicissitude and climates. Yeah, 420 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: he pretty much would converted from his previous uh feeling, 421 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: which was that the astronomical charts that had been provided 422 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: to him on his first voyage had worked perfectly well uh. 423 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: At the end of this whole saga, John Harrison died 424 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: on March seventeen seventy six, only a couple of years 425 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: after being awarded this additional eight thousand, seven fifty pounds Larkham. 426 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Kendall's attempts to mass produce Harrison's designs were really not 427 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: at the quality that Harrison had managed. They were inferior, 428 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: But one of them, known as the K two, was 429 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: stolen from Captain Bly during the mutiny on the Bounty, 430 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: other watchmakers kept trying to figure out how to mass 431 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: produce and build on this original idea, and finally, watchmakers 432 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: John Arnold and Thomas Earnshaw each managed to figure out 433 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: ways to mass produce them, although the quality of what 434 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: was put out really varied a whole lot. By the 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: seven teen eighties, though using a chronometer to take a 436 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: longitude reading became a common part of ship's logs, many 437 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: ships had more than one for the sake of both 438 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: redundancy and accuracy. They would take the same reading with 439 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: lots of different blocks to try to make sure that 440 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: they had the most accurate one. The h M. S. 441 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: Beagle reportedly had twenty two of them when Charles Darwin 442 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: began his voyages, and most of Harrison's clocks are now 443 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: in London's National Maritime Museum, as well as other museums 444 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: throughout the world. It's kind of a side note. There 445 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: was a lot of talk as all of this was 446 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: going on about, uh, what a great loss of life 447 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: would be prevented if the longitude problem were solved. I 448 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: read a really interested interesting paper while doing the research 449 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: for this about how scurvy was actually killing way more 450 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: sailors than shipwrecks did, and scurvy was killing more sailors 451 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: even than combat was, and the authors were like, if 452 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: they actually we really cared about the loss of life, 453 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: there would have been a scurvy board to take care 454 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: of that problem, which Captain Cook wound up doing by 455 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: his own efforts for his own crew without someone forcing 456 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: him to do it. So I found that to be 457 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting aside. So now do you have 458 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: some listener mail for us to enjoy? Yes, I do. 459 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: This is from Kess, who writes about our episode on 460 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: the Battle of Blair Mountain. Kess says, in the episode, 461 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: you mentioned my hometown of Fort Thomas, Kentucky, where my 462 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: family has lived for four generations. Although my family loves history, 463 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: I somehow missed that the soldiers from the fort once 464 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: participated in the national conflict. I've been to the fort 465 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: many times because, in addition to still serving as an 466 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: army reserve, basis also a local park. As kids, my 467 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: brother and I spent many hours at the fort, exploring 468 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: the woods, playing tennis, and climbing the jungle gyms. We 469 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: used to mountain bike on the same roads that the 470 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Army jeeps used for training exercises. My grandmother, who married 471 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: into the Fort Thomas side of our family, was the 472 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: daughter of a coal miner. Grandma Eleanor never let us 473 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: forget our roots in the coal industry and made sure 474 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: that my brother and I grew up knowing the differences 475 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: between bituminous and anthracite coal. Most coal in the United States, 476 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: such as the coal mined at Blair Mountain, as a 477 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: bituminous coal, which has a lower carbon content than the 478 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: anthracite coal and burns less efficiently. Grandma l grew up 479 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: in the anthracite region of Pennsylvania, where her father was 480 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: a member of the United Mine Workers Union. My great 481 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: grandpa was called Snowball, and he was a child of 482 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Russian and Polish immigrants who came through Ellis Island. Snowball 483 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: started working at the mines when he was thirteen, having 484 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: just finished third grade. When he was fifteen, Snowball was 485 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: promoted to shovel operator, and during his nearly five decades 486 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: in the coal industry, Snowball learned to operate the steam, 487 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: diesel and electrical shovels. Shovel operation was considered a pretty 488 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: good job at the time, became because it came with 489 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: less health risks than most mining careers. Snowballs worked with 490 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: the shovels took place on the surface of the mine, 491 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: so he did not have to regularly enter shafts and 492 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: was not exposed to the same amounts of carbon dust 493 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: as other miners. Snowball outlived many of his mining colleagues, 494 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: but was able to meet some of his great grandchildren, 495 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: including me, before he passed away at the age of 496 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: ninety three. Recently, my dad took me on a pilgrimage 497 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: to the coal region to see family and friends. We 498 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: visited several mining towns, including Centralia, where a coal fire 499 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: has been burning underground since nineteen sixty two, Shndo, where 500 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: the Great Anthracite Coal Stride took place in nineteen o two, 501 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: and William Penn, a former company town where my great 502 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: grandfather served as chief of the volunteer fire department. A 503 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: picture of my great grandfather still hangs on the wall 504 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: at the firehouse. I will never forget my expedition to 505 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: the coal region, because while I always knew that coal 506 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: was important to my family, I never really appreciated how 507 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: extensively cold contributed to the formation of the modern United States. 508 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: My grandfather from Fort Thomas and my grandmother from the 509 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: coal region met in Washington, d C. When they both 510 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: joined the Navy to improve their prospects. I wonder if 511 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: they ever spoke about the connection between the Fort Thomas 512 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: and the coal industry, or if they ever realized how 513 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: the Battle of Blair Mountain mutually affected their lives. While 514 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: my grandmother is no longer with us, Grandpa is still 515 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: active in Love's history. I will definitely play your podcast 516 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: for him the next time I'm home. Thanks for helping 517 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: us make a new memory and for the great work 518 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: that you do. Kiss. I wanted to read this for 519 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. Uh. One is that I love 520 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: when we have family stories that are tied to the podcast. 521 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: The other is that Kess included how to pronounce the 522 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: town of Shendo, which is specifically spelled like Shenandoah, which 523 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: is pronounced Shenandoah when used for other parts of the 524 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: world in other places, and pretty much any example of 525 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: when something has a pronunciation that's pretty established as being 526 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: different from how local people say it is the time 527 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: that I need someone to spell that out for me 528 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: because I would have said it wrong. Yeah, I totally 529 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: would have gone with Shenandoah, yeah, because there is there 530 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: are definitely other places pronounced that way. So thank you 531 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: yes for writing and for telling me how to say 532 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: shando uh. If you would like to write to us, 533 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: you can. We're at history Podcast at how stuff works 534 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: dot com. We're also on Facebook at facebook dot com 535 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: slash miss in history and on Twitter at miss in history. 536 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Are tumbler is miss in history dot tumbler dot com, 537 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: and we're on Pinterest at pentterest dot com slash miss 538 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: in history. 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