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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and here we are. It's a fabulous
Speaker 1: Friday edition of Mick Shots Bill Jones along with Everson
Speaker 1: Walls and inside the s WBC Mortgage studios at Ford
Speaker 1: Center at the Star in Frisco on the Friday before
Speaker 1: the unbeaten Pittsburgh Steelers are at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: There he is Mickey Spagnola. Hello, gentlemen, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How are you guys? And very well?
Speaker 1: Not very well? Get my homework? You did your homework? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't do my homework, especially at kid. I did
Speaker 1: my homework. Yeah, And now that you mentioned it, I
Speaker 1: forgot to do my homework and I'm going to do
Speaker 1: it right now. And y'a was talking this first segment.
Speaker 1: I'll do my homework. So here we are, and don't
Speaker 1: get this roo ate your homework. I don't know that
Speaker 1: that was on the air out there. Chris Beam, our producer,
Speaker 1: We may have just told us in our ears behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, but he said that romo ate it, meaning
Speaker 1: my dog romo ate my homework, and that was that
Speaker 1: was in all likelihood exactly what happened, all right, Mickey, Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy had his usual Friday morning press conference, and
Speaker 1: we saw the injury report after yesterday's work out Dan,
Speaker 1: which the most extensive workout of the week, and sounds
Speaker 1: like Zeke didn't do as much as they had hoped
Speaker 1: it he would do. And yesterday's work out, yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought that was somewhat alarming the fact that he didn't
Speaker 1: do as much, and they said that they would kind
Speaker 1: of recheck them on Saturday. So yeah, that's just what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need, right that, you know, just uh lose
Speaker 1: another Pro Bowl starting player going into the game against
Speaker 1: UM as you said, the undefeated seven and oh Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I figured that they were just
Speaker 1: trying to get them to Sunday, and maybe that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Jerry sounded a little bit more optimistic. But
Speaker 1: you know, when Kellen Moore did his conference called this
Speaker 1: morning and he was asked about it, and you know what,
Speaker 1: uh he uh he said that you know that will
Speaker 1: be something that uh, well, we'll just have to see
Speaker 1: uh And he said, uh, uh, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: know where it's at yet. But he invoked the name
Speaker 1: of Rico Dottle, And I'm guessing most people don't even
Speaker 1: know that he that rookie undrafted free agent is on
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster and has actually been active
Speaker 1: on game day, uh basically just playing special teams. Hadn't
Speaker 1: had an offensive snap yet. But when I heard that,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, maybe we need to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more concerned and keep an eye
Speaker 1: on Zeke uh during warmups for Sunday's game. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit troubling. Um, probably can you enlighten
Speaker 1: me on Enrico? Can you enlighten the fans on Enrico?
Speaker 1: Who is Rico? He was the running back if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, from South Carolina A right, yeah, and kind
Speaker 1: of a shifty guy. Maybe not quite as big as
Speaker 1: the other guys, but line in the way that he plays,
Speaker 1: he's shifting in the way that he plays. Yes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: lou allright, just checking. Not like he's a member of
Speaker 1: the mafia or anything, right, leave it to ever, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm just checking. So yeah, you know he got in.
Speaker 1: He actually he has three offensive snaps, Mickeyaton for those
Speaker 1: who stuck around for the I didn't see that when
Speaker 1: I look for those who stuck around for the end
Speaker 1: of that Monday night game against Arizona. He had three
Speaker 1: carries in that game for thirteen yards. No way Preco Dottle,
Speaker 1: Yeah didn't. Okay, did he pronounce it Doddle? Oh? I had.
Speaker 1: That's the way to go. I don't know. I'm going
Speaker 1: with I've been going with Rico Doubtle. We have to
Speaker 1: fags every once in a while. See, this is this
Speaker 1: is the problem with not having preseason games. Okay, we
Speaker 1: would all know who Rico Doubtle or Rico Dowdle is
Speaker 1: if we had had preseason games this year, because he
Speaker 1: would have been the leading ball carrier for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in the preseason. And that's how damn Instead we have
Speaker 1: to depend on Spagnola with unreliable information. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: I missed three snaps okay, garbage time against the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: We would we would have known all about him and
Speaker 1: the other running back from TCU. Right that basically, well,
Speaker 1: we knew about the running back from TCU Jeddy Henderson.
Speaker 1: We make sure in Big twelve country here, and we
Speaker 1: know about the dimension saw alana Lua, right, and he's
Speaker 1: still fullback, That's right, he's still on the practice lay.
Speaker 1: If they need a full back too, well, I mean
Speaker 1: you know what, he's not just a fullback. That guy
Speaker 1: can play running back in fact, in fact the second
Speaker 1: half of this season. If you know what, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind seeing a little shawo Alana Lua on this team. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, And if Zeke can't go, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind seeing shaw alana Luah on Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, uh,
Speaker 1: because I think that they need to run the football
Speaker 1: at these Pittsburgh Steelers and and U. And I also
Speaker 1: thought that I was thinking about it yesterday. How do
Speaker 1: you how do you, as a head coach motivate the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to the point where they think that they can
Speaker 1: actually win this game over the Pittsburgh Steelers? All right?
Speaker 1: What would be the best way to motivate them? And
Speaker 1: one of the things I thought of. One of Zeke's
Speaker 1: greatest games in his NFL career was four years ago
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh. I think you know. And that's with the
Speaker 1: game where he had the eighty three yard touchdown reception
Speaker 1: and he broke it open at the end of the
Speaker 1: game and they had two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: He told he had two hundred nine yards and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And what I would do on Saturday night at the
Speaker 1: team meeting, I'm showing Zeke against the Pittsburgh Steelers from
Speaker 1: four years ago, just to plant in this team's mind
Speaker 1: see it can be done. And that was at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Now the problem with that now, if Zeke's not gonna
Speaker 1: play in the game, then it defeats its own purpose
Speaker 1: that the players are looking at that video going bit.
Speaker 1: That'd be great if we only had Zeke in this game.
Speaker 1: But I have to say, guys, when you're talking about
Speaker 1: Tony Pollock, very accompassed. I'm sure both of you agree
Speaker 1: with me on this. How accomplished Tony Pollard is the
Speaker 1: only thing I would say about him, because God, he's
Speaker 1: so amazing. He hits the holes quicker than than Zeke does.
Speaker 1: He has his own unique style, which I love, but
Speaker 1: I think they go better together. I think the contrast
Speaker 1: between Zeke starting off with Zeke coming with the power
Speaker 1: you know, coming coming with the aggression and then we
Speaker 1: change over to Tony Pollard and when he comes to
Speaker 1: the game, the difference in the speed is noticeable, and
Speaker 1: I think it takes some defenses off guard. So I
Speaker 1: think Tony Pollard's best when he compliments Zeke Elliott. I'm
Speaker 1: curious to see how well he plays without the accompaniment
Speaker 1: of Zeke Ellitt in this ball game. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: change of pace I think really helps him out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't know if he's capable
Speaker 1: of taking twenty twenty five snap seither. We haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: So uh, they think just how effective he'll be. Just
Speaker 1: need to get to work on that hamstring, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, um, I believe it was Kellen Moore pointed
Speaker 1: it out, Uh that Zeke tweaked the hamstring chasing down
Speaker 1: McLeod on that fumble return for a touchdown. So Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy pointed it out. McCarthy, Yeah, McCarthy said, yeah. And
Speaker 1: so for all the people out there they think Zeke loafs.
Speaker 1: All I know is when I went back and looked
Speaker 1: at that play, Zeke was on the ground where the
Speaker 1: fumble was initially recovered. Uh, and by time he got up,
Speaker 1: McLeod had the ball and had a ten to twelve
Speaker 1: yard head start on him, and by time they got
Speaker 1: to the end zone, Zeke was only three yards behind.
Speaker 1: Now I know, he almost leon ledded it right and
Speaker 1: kind of held the ball up at about the five
Speaker 1: yard line and took a foot off the gas pedal,
Speaker 1: But Zeke was gaining on him. For those folks that
Speaker 1: think that he's not motivated, that he doesn't try, go
Speaker 1: back and look at the game. He was the guy
Speaker 1: that was gaining on McLeod the entire time. For what
Speaker 1: was it was it sixty yards fifty three yard return?
Speaker 1: Sixty three yards sixty three? Yeah, so but that's where
Speaker 1: he evidently tweaked the hamstring. Well. And the other part
Speaker 1: of that, Mickey, is there's so many times on plays
Speaker 1: like that that during the course of the week, especially
Speaker 1: once the coaches film gets available on NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: people will go back and they'll rag on players for
Speaker 1: loafing once they can see the all twenty two. And
Speaker 1: so I was going to point out that same thing
Speaker 1: about Zeke. Let's give him some credit because he didn't
Speaker 1: have because he was not going to win that race.
Speaker 1: He was not going to catch McLeod going to the
Speaker 1: end zone, but you could see yet in his mind
Speaker 1: that if he could catch him, he was going to
Speaker 1: try to knock that ball out like don Beebe or
Speaker 1: like Trayvon Diggs. Yes, you know it. I like sometimes
Speaker 1: that frustration, you know, can bring on a sense of urgency,
Speaker 1: and not just for that one play. I mean, you
Speaker 1: would look for those type of players could make you
Speaker 1: so upset to where you say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is the last straw. And that was in that particular game.
Speaker 1: That was Zeke's attitude. But you want that attitude to
Speaker 1: go towards the rest of the season as well, for
Speaker 1: any individual, whether it's Zeke or not. You know, the
Speaker 1: other thing on that play, you know, it was Vinny
Speaker 1: Curry who we thought had possession and was down by
Speaker 1: contact and the ball was stripped out. You know, keep
Speaker 1: in mind that was a fourth down play, and it's
Speaker 1: it's such a scrum you can't really tell exactly what
Speaker 1: is happening in the pile up there. It's conceivable that
Speaker 1: Vinny Curry himself tossed the ball out in order to
Speaker 1: give his teammate a chance to run for a touchdown
Speaker 1: with it because it was towards the other end of
Speaker 1: the field and there was an opportunity there for a
Speaker 1: scoop and score, which is exactly what happened on the plot. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. So has the NFL comeback and
Speaker 1: made a statement or have we uh demanded any type
Speaker 1: of statement from them in regards to that play. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think that the Cowboys for sure have gotten you know,
Speaker 1: they wrote it up and they I'm sure they got
Speaker 1: an explanation from the league. It's my understanding that the
Speaker 1: officials did not know, didn't even realize what was going
Speaker 1: on on it that that is not a good answer.
Speaker 1: But Bill's right, that's exactly what they didn't understand. What
Speaker 1: they didn't understand what was going on from the snap
Speaker 1: of the football when it was in the neutrals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the off sides. The officials didn't see the off sides
Speaker 1: much less what was going on in that pile there.
Speaker 1: They were all retreating downfield by lack of success that
Speaker 1: they give us these crappy three teams, I mean, what
Speaker 1: is happening? Man? They have no idea that we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we missed it. That's it. That's all you
Speaker 1: got you know what? You know what I did that?
Speaker 1: I did that to an umpire. Uh when I was
Speaker 1: managing a girls fast pitch softball team. They were junior high.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine umpire. The umpire was was half you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Half you know what? Is right?
Speaker 1: And I finally went out and I yelled at him.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, just because these are girls, don't sit
Speaker 1: here and think this game's not important. You do your job.
Speaker 1: He didn't take kindly to it. Ever, Ever, Everson, I
Speaker 1: just had this, this mental picture of Mickey Spagnola at
Speaker 1: a eight and under girls fast softball game at any
Speaker 1: he's got, he's got. He looks like Bill, he looks
Speaker 1: like Billy Martin in the dugout. He's got his camp on,
Speaker 1: he's got, he's in full UNI for him. And he
Speaker 1: goes out and argues with the umpire and throws his hat,
Speaker 1: turns his head around backwards, kicks dirt on home play.
Speaker 1: Nicky at the eighth and under fast pitch Softball should
Speaker 1: have it. He was he was ever, he was the
Speaker 1: only he was the only coach in the league with
Speaker 1: a clipboard was clipboard down and maybe the only one
Speaker 1: that knew what he was doing too. Oh, that reminds
Speaker 1: me I did by the way I did ahead the
Speaker 1: way I did, by the way get ejected from one
Speaker 1: game too. I was gonna say that was coming. The
Speaker 1: injection had to be coming. And you're not the only
Speaker 1: one spect I got kicked out of a game for
Speaker 1: being a just a spectator. So yeah, been there, done that, pal.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, Just do your shot, do your job. Hey.
Speaker 1: There was one time and I coached my girls in
Speaker 1: eight and under, ten and under youth basketball, and I
Speaker 1: remember there's several years later, I was working for CBS eleven.
Speaker 1: I was at Terrell Owens charity basketball game over at
Speaker 1: ar Old Turner High School and they had officials and
Speaker 1: everything at it. And one of the female officials comes
Speaker 1: up to be and she looks at me and she says,
Speaker 1: you're that coach from South Lake, aren't you? She remembered,
Speaker 1: She remembered me from eight and under girls basketball. Getting
Speaker 1: on the officials, I said, no, I don't know. We
Speaker 1: are a rep. Bill had a rep. Oh. Bill, Well,
Speaker 1: when I coached my son's basketball team, I would never
Speaker 1: get kicked out of the game. I would always sacrifice
Speaker 1: my players to go do some dirty work and get
Speaker 1: kicked out of the game. That's how I sent a message.
Speaker 1: So it's a little different from you know what you
Speaker 1: guys are him. Were you ever as mad as what
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy appeared to be on the sideline after Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz was called for a hold in Philadelphia on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Not as mad because you couldn't see my face changing
Speaker 1: colors the way you saw McCarthy's face, Well, you couldn't
Speaker 1: see his face spent with a mask gun, you couldn't
Speaker 1: see all of his face. But he was as mad
Speaker 1: as as he's probably ever been, and he was justified
Speaker 1: because that was that was bogus. I believe that was
Speaker 1: around the holding call Schultz, if I'm not mistaken, It
Speaker 1: took it took away a first down run by Ben Denucci.
Speaker 1: It was a significant, horrible bubble call. Yeah, houbbal call
Speaker 1: call right and pubble call. I feel like he probably
Speaker 1: saw it on the jumbo tron in the stadium and uh,
Speaker 1: and so that's how he because it's on the other
Speaker 1: side of the field from McCarthy, and so he gave
Speaker 1: him an earful and then something all right, looked like
Speaker 1: that mask got hot looked like that mask got real hot.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right where I'll tell you that's okay. How
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Speaker 1: We still don't know who the president is, although we've
Speaker 1: got to think we've got a pretty good idea. We
Speaker 1: don't know who the starting quarterback for the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: gonna be at three twenty five on s Day afternoon.
Speaker 1: Do we have a fairly good idea who it might be?
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola? What do you think? I think? Uh? Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy continues to answer the question when he's asked about
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks, and the first one he mentioned still
Speaker 1: is is Garrett Gilbert. So I'm sticking with that, That's
Speaker 1: what we're going with. I just think that you know,
Speaker 1: he at least has started games, meaning he started games
Speaker 1: in the AF and I know it was the AF,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't very long ago, right, and he actually
Speaker 1: started what eight games playing in that league, so to me,
Speaker 1: and he's been here a little bit longer, and I
Speaker 1: just don't I just don't know, I mean, And even
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore mentioned it because he was asked about how
Speaker 1: do you divide up the snaps and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: you really can't do that. And I was listening to
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Rush even mentioned that he had taken
Speaker 1: he gets snaps and he said to Night, I've also
Speaker 1: run the scout team. So that to me, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a tipping point or not. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that he's gonna say Obviously, he doesn't talk
Speaker 1: again until after the game McCarthy, So I don't think
Speaker 1: he wants to give them, you know, an ability for
Speaker 1: a scouting report on who the quarterback is. But if
Speaker 1: I was going to guess that, that would be my guess. Well,
Speaker 1: I wonder if you ask Gary Gilbert if he's taken
Speaker 1: any snaps with the scout team, he might say that
Speaker 1: he's taking team too. Yeah right, yeah, So you want
Speaker 1: to give him as many snaps as possible throughout the week.
Speaker 1: So the ones he's not with the first team, you
Speaker 1: put him with the scout team for now. Well, but
Speaker 1: but but think about it. They also have to have
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback ready, right, So it's not just getting
Speaker 1: one guy ready, You got to get the other guy
Speaker 1: ready too, unless you're gonna keep all three quarterbacks active
Speaker 1: on game days. Uh yeah, it's uh well, considering the
Speaker 1: fact that Pittsburgh has sacked people so many times thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you better have a backup ready. H I think somebody
Speaker 1: needs to be prepared just in case something goes down.
Speaker 1: But to be prepared too, Hey, think should be prepared.
Speaker 1: No doubt a ballot might need all three. Hey, if
Speaker 1: it takes that much to beat these guys, I'm fine
Speaker 1: with it. But I did my little I did my
Speaker 1: little research on the Steelers, and I'm still pissed off
Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy eight. Man, I'm still mad and when
Speaker 1: I was back at Graamville. So I'm getting kind of
Speaker 1: fired up as to get closer. But I'm with you SPACs. Uh.
Speaker 1: Probably Gilbert uh, simply because he's you know, I'm more
Speaker 1: mature human being. I mean he's older, basically. I guess
Speaker 1: that would be better, as you said, some experience on
Speaker 1: a professional level regardless, and he did a very good
Speaker 1: job in that role in the AAF. I believe it's
Speaker 1: what you said the league he was in, right, But
Speaker 1: let's it's just like the president man, you know, Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: He's finding the lawsuit in the state of Pennsylvania. So
Speaker 1: now we gotta wait until next week before we find
Speaker 1: out who's going to be the starters. So it depends
Speaker 1: on what the judge says first. Then we'll find out
Speaker 1: who's going to be the starter. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: so how about what was your guests? It's it's Gilbert.
Speaker 1: I've said all week that I thought Garrett Gilberts guy,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it I think has to do
Speaker 1: with the fact that that Gilbert has been here for
Speaker 1: a longer period of time. I mean, I take the
Speaker 1: guy that's been here three weeks over the guy that's
Speaker 1: been here for three days. And so I mean, we
Speaker 1: saw what happened last week when the guy with three
Speaker 1: days of practice got into the game, and so I'll
Speaker 1: go with I'll go with the guy with three weeks um.
Speaker 1: And you know, since we're more than that, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, since I go ahead, since we're on the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right. Thanks to my good buddy David Smoke, I
Speaker 1: saw this note Dak Prescott in his what four plus
Speaker 1: games through for one eight hundred and fifty six yards.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Ryan Tannehill, Ben Roethlisberger, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, David Jones, and Justin Herbert have not thrown
Speaker 1: for more yards yet than Dak Prescott. So if you
Speaker 1: wonder how important Dak Prescott was to this whole thing,
Speaker 1: just think about that and get this. Philip Rivers is
Speaker 1: only thrown now four more yards than Dak. Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: twenty seven and the Drew Brees only forty two more yards.
Speaker 1: And what Dak did in four plus games, So that
Speaker 1: tells you what he was doing up until the point
Speaker 1: where he dislocated and had the fractured ankle. Crazy. All right,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know that Dak was headed towards a year.
Speaker 1: I guess it fortunately or unfortunately like no other because
Speaker 1: he was forced to throw that many times. He was
Speaker 1: forced to be put in that position. And you know,
Speaker 1: they kept talking about the garbage numbers and all of that.
Speaker 1: Garbage numbers are not numbers when you are putting your
Speaker 1: team back in the ball game. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like they were down by four touchdowns and he never
Speaker 1: got them even close. No, these were productive yards that
Speaker 1: were very instrumental in those comebacks. A couple of times
Speaker 1: he had go ahead touchdowns late in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: only to lose that momentum again because the defense couldn't
Speaker 1: hold on. So garbage numbers, that is b s. Those
Speaker 1: numbers were sorely needed and really show just what kind
Speaker 1: of talent he had just played the entire season. Guys,
Speaker 1: I had the entire season, that would have been out
Speaker 1: of this. It would have been out of sight. But
Speaker 1: every I agree wholeheartedly with you, Everson. They're not garbage
Speaker 1: numbers at all. But if the Cowboys had gotten ahead
Speaker 1: by two or three touchdowns in those games in the
Speaker 1: first half instead of behind by two or three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Dak wouldn't have had the numbers that they have, and
Speaker 1: Zeke would have at least a couple one hundred yard
Speaker 1: rushing games. By now, I mean that you've been glad
Speaker 1: to take that is exactly exactly, and we'd be sitting
Speaker 1: here in the with the Cowboys playing the Can you
Speaker 1: imagine if Dak were healthy and the Cowboys are playing
Speaker 1: the Steelers at three twenty five on Sunday afternoon. There's
Speaker 1: a reason that CBS picked this game for a November
Speaker 1: late afternoon national doubleheader start time because when you look
Speaker 1: at the offensive weapons that dak as obviously with his
Speaker 1: top three receivers, and then you look on the other
Speaker 1: side with Roethlisberger. I was doing a little interview last
Speaker 1: night with a media member from Pittsburgh, and the people
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh think that the Steelers had the best wide
Speaker 1: receivers one through four on their team in the entire league.
Speaker 1: They believe, they believe that with Juju Smith Schuster and
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool and Deontae Johnson and James Washington, that one
Speaker 1: through four they've got the best wide receiver corps in
Speaker 1: the league. And I stopped him. I said, well, one
Speaker 1: through three, I'm not sure about four, but one through
Speaker 1: three I'll put Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, and CD Lamb
Speaker 1: up against the Steelers. Not anybody take nothing away from
Speaker 1: Claypool and Smith Schuster. Yeah yeah, and he and having
Speaker 1: throwed eighteen hundred yards yet already. So with all those weapons,
Speaker 1: you know, you would expect for him to have all
Speaker 1: this output. So those numbers don't back up what you're
Speaker 1: what those Pittsburgh people are saying. They don't back him
Speaker 1: up at all. Dac used every one of his receivers
Speaker 1: and even his tight end to the utmost. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: without his starting tight end, Jarwin Right. So when you
Speaker 1: look at last week's game for the Steelers against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: obviously Lamar Jackson is a different animal as far as
Speaker 1: his ability to run the football, and he ran at
Speaker 1: sixteen times for sixty five yards in that game. But
Speaker 1: the Steelers run defense last week. JK. Dobbins, the rookie
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, had fifteen carries for one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirteen yards in that game and Gus Edwards had
Speaker 1: six sixteen carries for eighty four yards. So they're running
Speaker 1: backs had one hundred and ninety seven yards rushing on
Speaker 1: thirty one carries in that game last week. For Baltimore
Speaker 1: against his Pittsburgh defense, you have to think, even if
Speaker 1: Zeke is not available, that whoever starts at quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys cannot be throwing the football forty times in
Speaker 1: this game like Danucci did a week ago. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And if you watched that game, those guys weren't making
Speaker 1: great moves. There was holes big enough to put a
Speaker 1: semi through. Now I got called out for pointing that out.
Speaker 1: By the way, somebody said, well, have you've seen the
Speaker 1: other games, And I said, all I know is I
Speaker 1: saw that one and they didn't and they couldn't stop
Speaker 1: the run. I mean they and you know you would
Speaker 1: have thought, oh, well, Lamar Jackson, he must have run
Speaker 1: for one hundred yards, you know, Okay, he gave him that,
Speaker 1: he gave him that dimension. But those other guys ran
Speaker 1: for nearly two hundred yards against what was supposed, by
Speaker 1: the way, Baltimore fifth defense in the league. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Baltimore lost its left tackle who they just
Speaker 1: signed to this huge contract twenty one apps into that game,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley right, who was lost to an injury early
Speaker 1: on in that game. So loves coaching one o one.
Speaker 1: When you're going up against a team and you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're outmanned, of course you have to start off with
Speaker 1: the run. They're gonna stack that line against us. But
Speaker 1: it's really all we have at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: in regards to a strategy. You know, we can't just
Speaker 1: come out and just throwing everything at them and seeing
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. We're gonna have to establish a facet
Speaker 1: of the game that we're gonna have to hang our
Speaker 1: head on for that entire game and of course probably
Speaker 1: for the entire season. This is the way we're looking
Speaker 1: at approaching it every week as far as the game
Speaker 1: plan is concerned. I didn't see how many punchs Chris
Speaker 1: Jones had a week ago, but I would say that
Speaker 1: we want a hundred nice wander to have a lot
Speaker 1: of punchs in this game. Or maybe not. I say
Speaker 1: that because well, I say that because I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: saying you don't want turnovers. Okay, yes, you don't want
Speaker 1: to lose the football via turnovers, and I think that
Speaker 1: you have to go in with a mindset. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where the game got lost last week a
Speaker 1: little bit because of the fumbles by the quarterback in particular,
Speaker 1: which were the only two giveaways the Cowboys had in
Speaker 1: that game. I think from an offensive strategy standpoint, you
Speaker 1: got to look at this. The only way that you're
Speaker 1: going to win this game is your defense has got
Speaker 1: to play and get takeaways like they did last week,
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to be mindful of
Speaker 1: the fact that a field goal is halfway to where
Speaker 1: you need to be where because with you don't have
Speaker 1: Dacket quarterback, you don't have Andy Dalton at quarterback, you
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback who's made an NFL start before
Speaker 1: starting for you, and the expectations of them being able
Speaker 1: to lead touchdown drives just isn't there. And so your
Speaker 1: MVP might be Greg Zerline and hundred nice wander in
Speaker 1: this game and keep it close and then maybe you
Speaker 1: get lucky in the end. That's a good point, Bell,
Speaker 1: because all you gotta do is you have to have
Speaker 1: the third facet of the game. We need our special
Speaker 1: teams more than ever. Defenses is still reeling, offenses reeling.
Speaker 1: We need our special teams more than ever right now
Speaker 1: to step up. They don't need to be just window dressing.
Speaker 1: They need to be instrumental in our game plan. So
Speaker 1: you talk about punts, Yeah, we want we'd rather have punts,
Speaker 1: more punts than turnovers. But we'd also rather have more
Speaker 1: field goals, you know. So if we can just lead
Speaker 1: to the field goals and punts and as far as
Speaker 1: I could say, more field goals than punts, then we're
Speaker 1: in a ball game. And like you said, we're getting
Speaker 1: half of what our goal is. We don't get the seven,
Speaker 1: but we still get the three. So that's what I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to, minus the turnovers. Special teams has to
Speaker 1: up up. They have to be part of this game. Player.
Speaker 1: They had three punts three punts uh last week. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they should have had four, right, they took the
Speaker 1: safety that would have been a punt, so they would
Speaker 1: have punted four times, so you know, and they turned
Speaker 1: the ball over twice, so there's six possessions right there.
Speaker 1: And if you count the fourth down, they they turned
Speaker 1: it over on the fourth down possession on that fumble. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh that was the same thing, the fumble and the
Speaker 1: fourth down, right, the touchdown. Yeah, so yeah, no, you're
Speaker 1: exactly right. And you know what and and and just
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna throw the ball and you
Speaker 1: got time, just throw it deep. You know, it might
Speaker 1: be a punt, okay, So what you gotta come out
Speaker 1: here swinging. Can't be nibbling around. Just just come I
Speaker 1: mean we might get interference, who knows. Just gonna just
Speaker 1: get what you can cannot. You cannot play the loose bags,
Speaker 1: that's all you're saying. But I am exactly but if
Speaker 1: I'm at cannot play to lose. But if I'm at
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh forty and I'm facing fourth in one, I'm
Speaker 1: punting it. I'm plunting them down into a hole. I'm
Speaker 1: not going for it and giving them a short field.
Speaker 1: I think I think you have to approach it differently
Speaker 1: than what you do with a veteran quarterback in there,
Speaker 1: unless you got some have the veteran quarterback, you know
Speaker 1: you still want to make him make plays. He had
Speaker 1: been that good this year. The offense hadn't been outstanding
Speaker 1: this year. So I'm like you, Bill, we plut them
Speaker 1: down deep. Let's make them show us that they're not
Speaker 1: weak in a particular area. Prove it to us that
Speaker 1: you're better than number twenty five as far as the
Speaker 1: offense is concerned. For the Pittsburgh Steelers, you gotta prove
Speaker 1: it to us because we're gonna have to bring everything
Speaker 1: we have make them work for what they get. All Right,
Speaker 1: we have our picks to click and our picks in
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Speaker 1: the Steelers. It was nearly ten years ago that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy had his greatest moment in sports that was winning
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl as the head coach of the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers against his hometown team, the Pittsburgh Steelers at
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. You know, McCarthy has faced the
Speaker 1: Steelers two other times since Super Bowl forty five, and
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, I believe it was. It was a
Speaker 1: high scoring game Pittsburgh won, but Aaron Rodgers did not play.
Speaker 1: It was a backup quarterback Matt Flynn who started for
Speaker 1: the Packers in that game. And the second time that
Speaker 1: he faced his hometown team, the Steelers was in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Once again it was with a backup quarterback Brett Hunley,
Speaker 1: another high scoring, close game, but Pittsburgh won it. And
Speaker 1: so here he is a third time since the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl backup quarterback. Yeah, since the Super Bowls, one in
Speaker 1: three all time as the head coach against his hometown Steelers,
Speaker 1: and every one of the three losses came down to
Speaker 1: the last play of the game. The games were all
Speaker 1: that close, and he lost on a walk off field goal,
Speaker 1: a walk off touchdown, and they had an opportunity, I believe,
Speaker 1: on the third in the other game to throw a
Speaker 1: touch down into the end zone to tie the game.
Speaker 1: To send it in overtime and it was incomplete. So
Speaker 1: they all three with Green Bay had been close calls.
Speaker 1: They lost them all except for the one that counted
Speaker 1: the boasts, the one that matters exactly right. And that
Speaker 1: guy in Pittsburgh I was talking to last night, he said,
Speaker 1: if only for Rochard menden Hall, he wouldn't have won
Speaker 1: that one. Rochard menden Hall in that Super Bowl, So
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and I said, well, and I told him, well,
Speaker 1: if only for Jackie Smith, the Cowboys would have beat
Speaker 1: the Steelers day. We got a bunch of onlies. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the pass interference called on Benny Barnes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of them guys, come on and
Speaker 1: if he and then he said, if not for Neil O'Donnell,
Speaker 1: the Steelers would have had the Cowboys and ninety five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if not for Jackie Smith dropping the ball in
Speaker 1: the end zone right or Roger not thrown, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got pass. Please come on, may Hey. So speaking of
Speaker 1: speaking of okay, I did my research built, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Now, let's do it. In my research, I
Speaker 1: did Okay. We were talking about the Hall of Famers
Speaker 1: from the amazing matchups in the seventies, the two Super
Speaker 1: Bowls that the Cowboys and the Steelers had. I think
Speaker 1: it was back to back Super Bowls if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Steelers wanted them both to many Cowboys fans.
Speaker 1: This mate on that particular Steelers team I'm looking at,
Speaker 1: I think I saw eight Hall of famers. Count them
Speaker 1: up with me. Joe Green, Lynn Swan, John Starworth, Jack Lambert,
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw, Donnie Shell, the newest edition, Mike Webster, the
Speaker 1: late Mike Webster, and Mail Blunt. Those are the eighth
Speaker 1: that I have for the Steelers in the seventies. Now
Speaker 1: we start talking about Cowboy Hall of Famers from the seventies,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna clarify some things right now. We're looking at
Speaker 1: Raphael Right, Roger Starback, just from the seventies, Bob Hayes,
Speaker 1: Bob Lily, Tony Dorset, Mel rentfro Cliff Harris, Randy White,
Speaker 1: Lance Allworth. Also don't forget herb Adderleade. Now the classification
Speaker 1: in this game is not all of those Cowboy Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers participated in the two Super Bowl games. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you want to take you want to take
Speaker 1: out those ones that didn't play in that those two matchups.
Speaker 1: Bob Hayes did not play. If I'm not mistaken, I'm
Speaker 1: checking my stuff. I know Bill's gonna be on it.
Speaker 1: Bob Lily did not play, right, Mel Rentfro did not
Speaker 1: make it to those those matchups. Neither did Lance all
Speaker 1: Worth or Herb Adderlead. They did not participate in those
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl games. And if I'm not mistaken, Rayfield
Speaker 1: right only participated in one of them. I could be
Speaker 1: wrong about that, Bill. So that's what you're looking at,
Speaker 1: just a decade full of Cowboys Steeler greatness. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Steelers ended up winning those two Super Bowls. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: like I said, they're grambling. I didn't even come out
Speaker 1: of my room when the game was over. They wanted to.
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to burn my room down because
Speaker 1: nobody liked the Cowboys but me on Grammar's campus. So
Speaker 1: that was my research. It was very entertaining, and it
Speaker 1: brought back some really bad memories of those two ball games,
Speaker 1: including the Benny Barnes passion offense called against I believe
Speaker 1: that was Lynn Swan. Just huge plays all the way around.
Speaker 1: Cowboys getting have been getting screwed by referees and big
Speaker 1: games for decades. You know, you can also you could
Speaker 1: have included both head coaches, right, I could have. I
Speaker 1: did not include them, but yes, I could have Chuck Old,
Speaker 1: Tom Landry. And so it was a seventy five season,
Speaker 1: in the seventy eight season that the Cowboys played the
Speaker 1: Steelers in the Super Bowl, and uh, ray Field, right,
Speaker 1: was a Cowboy through seventy nine, so he Rayfield would
Speaker 1: have been on the team. Okay, both seventy five and
Speaker 1: seventy eight. Also, U, I'm just looking through some of
Speaker 1: the rest of it. Mal Mail was not mal Cliff
Speaker 1: Mail was not there. But Cliff har I was there
Speaker 1: in seventy five. Yeah, go ahead, there Cliff was. Cliff
Speaker 1: was there for both of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So very interestingly did not make it. They were. They
Speaker 1: were there for the h the Dolphins, and the Coats
Speaker 1: and the Colt the Coats also Colts, Yeah, the first two.
Speaker 1: So we we were we were very good at acquiring
Speaker 1: top notch talent at the end of their career. We
Speaker 1: almost did a Bill Belichick in Dallas because you're talking
Speaker 1: Lance all with her Badley bringing in these amazing guys,
Speaker 1: Greg Mike did get at the end of their careers. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's Forrest gregg On. He wasn't on
Speaker 1: any of the sud No, he wasn't on those teams
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but he was one that they brought
Speaker 1: in at the end of his career. Got all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta we got a minute or so to make
Speaker 1: some picks here. So what do you think in Everson
Speaker 1: as far as pick to click the score? No, I'm
Speaker 1: going with my player first. Uh, considering special teams being
Speaker 1: so important here, I'm gonna have to go with Greg
Speaker 1: the leg as my pick to click. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a very important Uh. I love the way kicked last week,
Speaker 1: except for that one Shank looked like, uh spack no
Speaker 1: on on that on that with his nine iron. Uh
Speaker 1: my backup. I always have to have a backup. This
Speaker 1: running game is gonna be in rdon and I'm looking
Speaker 1: for badass to come through for us. Guys, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for Billy Badass to come through for us this that
Speaker 1: would be be honest, and I'm looking for him to
Speaker 1: have a good game. I think this kid's got a
Speaker 1: lot of heart. The score that I'm looking at who
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. You know, I picked the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: so I'm always going first case scenario. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys winning twenty to seventeen. Twenty to seventeen best
Speaker 1: case scenario. If they're gonna win, that's why score it
Speaker 1: needs to be yea. But right, hey, this is the
Speaker 1: same guy that said the Cowboys couldn't score thirty plus
Speaker 1: points without Taylon Smith. We proved him wrong in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: So spags get out of here. Man. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm going on, Mickey, I'll save you for last. I'm
Speaker 1: going hundred nice nice wander as might pick to click
Speaker 1: and uh and I'm sorry to say that I think
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are gonna win this game. Mickey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could tell by the way you were having it hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. My pick to click is gonna be the
Speaker 1: rubber band man, Randy Gregory. He's gonna get to Roethlisberger,
Speaker 1: who's only been sacked ten times, but they have not
Speaker 1: faced Randy Gregory, so he's my guy. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: four snaps in this game. And I said I wouldn't
Speaker 1: pick the Cowboys until they won, so they haven't won.
Speaker 1: H Pittsburgh twenty you said you wouldn't pick the Cowboys
Speaker 1: bandwagon mentality. You said you said you wouldn't pick the
Speaker 1: Cowboys until they won twice. Yeah, twice, that's right, twice.
Speaker 1: And I haven't won once yet, so I got I'm
Speaker 1: still with it. Twenty six sixteen Pittsburgh. Wow, that's a
Speaker 1: competitive game, twenty six sixteen, and that means the line's
Speaker 1: gotta kick a bunch of field goals, by the way
Speaker 1: to field goal three field goals from from zerline. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see how well we do. And the game is
Speaker 1: on CBS with Jim Nanson Tony Romo on the call.
Speaker 1: All right, that does it for mix shots for another week,
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