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Speaker 1: That's what you were supposed to ask him when he

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Speaker 7: There are some that didn't respond, but that was There

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Speaker 7: But that whole situation being completely demonized. I had no

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Speaker 7: It wasn't like we should have been it or whatever.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you can't do that. You try the whole sport,

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Speaker 7: It's this is the missing piece to my puzzle. So

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Speaker 7: I get upset at how I'm treated. You portrayed, you

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Speaker 8: Oh my mom all these terrible things.

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Speaker 3: Marshall, we got to talk about it. Super Bowl forty nine.

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Speaker 6: Because they see me on the flat? Yeah yeah, you

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00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 6: feel me. I'm running out there like ship, look at

440
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 6: least you gonna hit me in the flat? Yeah yeah,

441
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 6: And I get my head around.

442
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: He ain't tackling you one on one?

443
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 6: What the fuck going? Like? What happened to? No ball

444
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 6: coming on? And see them up fuckers jumping up and

445
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 6: down and chaining like, oh shit, he did threw a

446
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 6: pick And at that time, you know, there was a

447
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 6: lot of shit going on, you know what I mean.

448
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: So you walking off the field, the defense is coming

449
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: on the field. God, so was it entery interaction? Did

450
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: anybody say anything to the defense? Say, man, what the

451
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 2: ELP was that?

452
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: Who called that? Bull?

453
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 6: Jyy that We look back at it. You see everybody,

454
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 6: you know, they show the reactions. Yeah yeah, I mean

455
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 6: you see the reaction Sharon Earl Bruce, you know what

456
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 6: I mean, d line or the you see the reaction

457
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 6: from everybody. And then as I'm going back to the sideline, uh,

458
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 6: you know, go by rush and I just hear him like,

459
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 6: oh man, like I get him next time.

460
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: Wa ho whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

461
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 6: And as I'm as I hear the ship, I don't

462
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 6: really I usually don't take my helmet off, but you know,

463
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 6: I take my helmet off, and I go right to

464
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll face and I'm talking about I hit his

465
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 6: ass with the biggest what And at that point, ship ship,

466
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 6: I go to the locker room.

467
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, beebo.

468
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 6: See all the ship going on. I don't see none

469
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 6: of this ship. I don't see the I don't see

470
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 6: the last few plays.

471
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: Where they're getting the scuffling and they're pushing the shoven.

472
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: You was already gone.

473
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: I'm in another fucking uh you.

474
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: In the locker room.

475
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 6: I'm in the locker room.

476
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 3: So by the time they come to the locker room,

477
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: you probably already drew.

478
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 6: It was Arizona. I think I ran it. The uh

479
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 6: and the uh many kravics.

480
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Man?

481
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 6: Looking like, don't you got a game? Oh yeah, that

482
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 6: ship over. He called my mama and UH called the family. Hey,

483
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 6: come on, we're back to the spot. All right, go

484
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 6: in there, get dressed, go shower, get dressed. And as

485
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 6: I'm coming out now you see everybody else coming in.

486
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 6: I mean, I let you. I'll let y'all when you

487
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 6: get back.

488
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: To the Why why didn't they give you that ball?

489
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: Why did Daryl Beba call a pass play? Why did

490
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: Peet Caroll not overrule it? What happened? Did they not

491
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: want you to get that m VP?

492
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 6: Man? I have no idea. And from the understanding that

493
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 6: I got is nobody taken accountability for neither one of them.

494
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 6: They put it off on each other. So I don't know, Okay,

495
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what the fuck.

496
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: Hold up, Russ put it off on Pete. Pete put

497
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: it off on Russ or whether it coordinated the head.

498
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: Coach, NAH coordinator and head coach. They passed it back

499
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: to each other from from that's when they talking to me.

500
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: So I don't know how I play. But at at

501
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 6: the end of the day, yeah, that shit was You know,

502
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 6: that shit were painful, cause you gotta think like, no

503
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 6: matter what in any sport, you play what you do,

504
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: especially now running back saying okay, you when you a

505
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 6: little jit, you set up you know pillow here pillow here,

506
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 6: chair here, you know what I mean, maybe a lamp

507
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 6: post here, like okay, and then you start going it's

508
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 6: that the end of the game. One more playing, uh uh?

509
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 6: The quarterback handing the ball off the marshan, he jumping

510
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 6: theirs on touch down. You all the the Oapen Reders

511
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl. I'm a ready fan. I'm from Oaking, California.

512
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 6: So you know, you put it together. You put that

513
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 6: play together so many times. You play that, you play

514
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 6: that so many times. So not only did they take

515
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 6: a you know, the moment away from the moment, they

516
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 6: took a dream. Wow, what I mean, that's a I

517
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 6: guess say that's one in a lifetime.

518
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: Situation.

519
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Have you gotten over it?

520
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

521
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: To be honest with you now, now that you know

522
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 6: we at ten years, we had a ten year reunion

523
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 6: for the Super Bowl and just thinking like, damn, we

524
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 6: could have been doing this again next year, next year,

525
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 6: and there's no telling, like, you know, you took a

526
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 6: dream away, you took a moment away. You arguably tasty,

527
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 6: you take a dynasty away, you know, I mean because

528
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 6: then you you know you in position to a we

529
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 6: win two super Bowls, maybe y'all don't want to be

530
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: the highest paid corner or the highest paid safety or

531
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 6: the highest paid receiver. No, spread that cheese through the

532
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 6: whole team. So we could bring everybody back and we

533
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 6: could go try to do dreedom, be folk. Let's see

534
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: what we could get out of it. So, I mean,

535
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 6: you know, not only do you you know you you

536
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 6: take away all that ship, but you know you put

537
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: us in there in the history books as the dumbest

538
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 6: call in football history. And then I mean, you know,

539
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 6: for my situation on the other end of it, you

540
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 6: know what I mean, It's gonna be an everlasting question

541
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 6: that I'm gonna get it. Why they are.

542
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: By the ball? That is that the question that you

543
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: get asked the most.

544
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: If when people meet Marshall Lynching, everybody knows who you are,

545
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: is that the first question out of there?

546
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: Like, hey, how you doing marshank Man? Why they give

547
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: you that ball?

548
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 6: Hell? No, I ain't know, Hey Marshan, how you doing this? Hey?

549
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Why the fun? Lynch?

550
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 6: You just like Marshon Lynch, Like, no, I ain't more

551
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 6: Sean Lynch. Oh my bad, I didn't mean to ask

552
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 6: you that. I thought you was more Sean Lynch because

553
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, Man, if you was Marcha Lene,

554
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 6: why the fuck they didn't eat I'm marshank Man, why

555
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: the fuck they didn't ship? Fuck? I don't know shit.

556
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 6: I wish I did know. I wish I wish I

557
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: could get you know, the truthful answer behind that.

558
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: But if there any answer he could give you now

559
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 3: to satisfy.

560
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 6: You, I mean, at this point, I wouldn't know. Now

561
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 6: that it's been so much time in between, it probably

562
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 6: wouldn't even.

563
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Matter because you know everything I've heard all the everybody says, well,

564
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: they didn't want beats Mold to be the MVP. He

565
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: wanted it to be RUSS, or the NFL wanted it

566
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: to be RUSS Heard, whatever the case may be. But

567
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, I mean to the I played

568
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: the game for a long time. It doesn't make sense

569
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: to me. I got two hundred thirty five pound sledge

570
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: jamber back there, and I'm gonna throw a pass on

571
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: the one yard land.

572
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just don't make sense.

573
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: You almost scored on the play before you read it

574
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: down to the one.

575
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 6: You're damn right, you know what I mean? So I realistically, like, man,

576
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 6: when I when I think about it, I'm in a

577
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 6: position to where you feel me, don't get you know, upset,

578
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 6: frustrated with it, but more and so curious, like you know,

579
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 6: because then you know you got all the possibility. Did

580
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 6: they not want you to be the the super Bowl MVP?

581
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 6: Because if you super Bowl MVP, then you the face

582
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: of the NFL. They don't want, you know, want that

583
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 6: to be the case or whatever. But at that and

584
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 6: then they have.

585
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Special case and they bring all Super Bowl wheelers back

586
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: and they out there. Let me ask you this, how

587
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: long did it take you to get over not getting

588
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: the ball?

589
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: You know what? Realistically it was immediately. Because the thing is,

590
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 6: if you're go and ask anybody to ever play with me,

591
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 6: they'll tell you like, he really like play for the

592
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 6: team type shit. Right, So it was a part of

593
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: me who wanted to be selfish, like give me the

594
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 6: ball type shit. But at the end of the day,

595
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 6: knowing the work that all these individuals put in, you,

596
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 6: I mean, if Lock catch that ball, that's my nigga.

597
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: So you feel me, I'm happy for him, But in

598
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 6: the grand scheme of just football, that shit don't make

599
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: no sense.

600
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Right.

601
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: But as far as you know what I mean, because

602
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 6: I'll never come and potentially be no hater towards nobody,

603
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: but just certain shit makes sense and certain shit don't.

604
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 6: That just don't make no sense. It's not a it's

605
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 6: not a good football. It's not it's not a football decision.

606
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: It's not good football. I Q on now that I'm

607
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: thinking about it, it's not.

608
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: Was that the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks.

609
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 6: Most definitely, and that stuff for in the front still

610
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 6: to this day.

611
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: Because I had a podcast at the time called milding

612
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Off and I went on the next I went on

613
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: that Monday, and I said, they'll never be the same.

614
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: I said, they won't look at Pete the same I said,

615
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: they realize what because a lot of teams win won

616
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: in a row to be special, you went back to

617
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: back Super Bowls, because they've been so few that have

618
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: done it. I said, they will never ever believe in

619
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Pete the same way again.

620
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: And it's like you know what I mean, Like when

621
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 6: a when a doap thing't get that first high, they

622
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 6: they're gonna chase that.

623
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: You chase that you search for, that chasing the dragt.

624
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 6: Chase that motherfucker. And now you've got a situation where

625
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: I believe where you look at it like that motherfucker

626
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 6: is almost like he's trying to chase and rebuild that

627
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: team that he had rather than moving forward and letting

628
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: the guys that he got be the guys.

629
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna do that. You're not gonna get

630
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: a Sharm. I mean, you got a sharm. You got

631
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: a rookie sharm and the Earl Thomas and the Cam

632
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Chancellor and you know, you got b Wags and you

633
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: got kJ and you got Bennett, and you got.

634
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 3: April and you got Red. I mean, bro, you're not

635
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: You're not gonna You're not gonna recreate that.

636
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 6: You're not. But as long as you chasing that and

637
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: you not building these individuals be the to be the

638
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: greatest player that they can be, you're gonna keep it on,

639
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: you know, repeating history because he got some guys who

640
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: I believe can play, right. But if you got in

641
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 6: your mind that you want you go recreate that to

642
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 6: be a Michael Bennett or you got your guy you

643
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 6: want him to be a Marshine or like, nah, you

644
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 6: can't do that. But the thing is if you going

645
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: and groom that guy to be the best him, than

646
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 6: the probably give yourself a better chance, you feel me,

647
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: because they got some dudes over there who I really,

648
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 6: I mean you get that. I like, you know what

649
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 6: I mean. But as long as in their mindset they

650
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 6: trying to get him to be the goddamn twenty thirteen Seahawks.

651
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: What was your what was your relationship with Pete?

652
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Like?

653
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: And they're any similarity between John Gruden and Pete Carroll,

654
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: But what was your relationship like with Pete?

655
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: My relationship with Pete was was interesting because I mean

656
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 6: the thing is, like I like Pete as a coach

657
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 6: because he get motherfuckers ready to go. Yeah, that's the

658
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 6: tr truth. You feel me and he the same way

659
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 6: every day. But there was just certain things about Pete,

660
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 6: like you know what I mean, he was like and

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: I you know, I mean like for me, I don't

662
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 6: I don't need that to get going. That's why I said,

663
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: you like a high school code on Sunday. Yeah, we

664
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 6: play Sunday right, Oh we got too. We got Thursday

665
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: night game. Okay, cool, let me know what the game

666
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: is and I'm gonna be ready. All the extra shit

667
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't I don't need it. I don't need all

668
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 6: of that to get ready. To get to go. But

669
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 6: a lot of guys can feed into that and I've

670
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 6: seen it and it worked, so you feel me, I

671
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 6: never like, never go against the game like fuck him

672
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 6: and this, that and the that, because no, he's a

673
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 6: great motivator and get mother fuckers ready. But it was

674
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 6: just that I didn't need that, and I don't think

675
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 6: he understood like where I was coming from, that I

676
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 6: don't need to be and who who and all that

677
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 6: in order to be ready. And you know, I believe

678
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 6: he wanted me to be a part of that type

679
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: of environment, but that just wasn't my speed. So that

680
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 6: kind of got us to you know what I mean,

681
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 6: head button a little bit for the misunderstanding. But the

682
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 6: thing was, I always told him like, man, I ain't

683
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 6: gonna never go against the grand I ain't gonna never

684
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 6: tell nobody not to you know what I mean, listen

685
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: to what you got going on. But that shit just

686
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 6: not for me. So you know what I mean, if

687
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: you gonna be having meetings or whatever, you know, I mean,

688
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: we came to an understanding if we having a meeting

689
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 6: and you not telling me specifically like Marshan on this play,

690
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 6: we need you to do X Y and Z. Then

691
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 6: you know, I'm probably not gonna come to that meeting

692
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: because I you know, I know what you're gonna be

693
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: in there doing. You're gonna be in here high high

694
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 6: and busting jokes and doing all the funny shit. And

695
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 6: then you know, I mean, I'm ready to play football.

696
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 6: So when it comes down to that, then let me know.

697
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 6: Once we got that understanding, you were cool.

698
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael's son, Marcus was I don't know if he

699
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: still is dating Scotty's ex wife.

700
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

701
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: How would you feel if a teammate of yours dated

702
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: your daughter? Would you feel some type of way?

703
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, hell yeah?

704
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 5: That is a really I feel bad for Michael. I

705
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 5: feel bad for Scotty. Yes, that is so messy.

706
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 3: I don't like.

707
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 5: Messy because when it's messy, everybody has an opinion on it.

708
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: Everybody has an opinion. And you know the internet is

709
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 5: not a place for messy. No, And you have to

710
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 5: understand it's a lot of kids involved, yes, and people

711
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: are mean. People are mean, and it's unfortunate.

712
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: You know.

713
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 5: I just got onto social media because I didn't want

714
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: to be around the meanness. And I feel bad for

715
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: everybody involved because I see all the pictures. I don't

716
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: do the comment stuff, but I know they're gonna be mean.

717
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: But it's just I just hate messy, and it's just

718
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: really messy. And there are no winners. There's only losers

719
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 5: because obviously Michael and Scotti's relationship can't ever be the same.

720
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: Did you know was it the last dance when Michael

721
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: put that because he wasn't there at the time, when

722
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Scotty refused to go in the game and he inserted

723
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: that until the last dance?

724
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: Did you always know that Scotty and Michael had.

725
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: This kind of contingious relationship because from the outside it

726
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: like it looked pretty good.

727
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised it was so bad. I was surprised.

728
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: But in Faraday spent a ton of time with those

729
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: guys together. I spent a lot more time with Michael,

730
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: a lot more time with Michael.

731
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

732
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 5: You know, it's just a sad situation because I think

733
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 5: if you not that I know, but you know, if

734
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: you win a championship with guys, y'all probably have a

735
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: special bond. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think if you

736
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 5: win six, y'all might as well. Y'all should be brothers, brothers,

737
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 5: like so like I say, you know, if you win

738
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 5: one championship, I'm pretty sure every time y'all get together.

739
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: Cause you got that, you're gonna have the reunion.

740
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: Yes, every every five, five year, ten year, fifteen, twenty three.

741
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you win six together, y'all should be

742
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: damned near blood.

743
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 7: Yes.

744
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: So that's the thing I most feel bad. There's guys

745
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: I didn't win with, but they're some of my best friends.

746
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 5: Every time I see them, it's like, man, I got

747
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 5: another brother, and like we bumping each other at all

748
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 5: the Star Games, maybe the Hall of Fame ceremony, or

749
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 5: we just bumping each other. It's like a family reunion.

750
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: But if I had won six championship with somebody, I

751
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: would think, Man, we blood brothers for life.

752
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: When people that do what we do take shots at you,

753
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean you had to the funny back and forth.

754
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: You and Shank had the funny back and forth. You

755
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: put Kendrick person Perkins face on the punching back and

756
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: you you punch it and you get this shape. I mean,

757
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: how do you how do you handle that when when

758
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: guys that do what we do take shots at you.

759
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't bother me because because I guess technically

760
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: we take shots at players, right. The only problem that

761
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: I had with what Kendrick says, there's nobody in the

762
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 5: world watch more basketball than me, I tell you, Like,

763
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: and I just come out of March Magic with pissed

764
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: me off even more because I was watching two or

765
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: three college basketball games a day. March Maddison really sucks

766
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: because I'm watching games all day long. Right, But to

767
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: say another guys don't watch the games.

768
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: Because he has a different opinion than you.

769
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And so that's the only thing bothered me.

770
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 5: I could say, I say, there's nobody in the world

771
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 5: watch more basketball than me. So but I don't get mad.

772
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: And the thing is really funny about it. Shack is

773
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: so sensitive at times because I was gonna like let

774
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 5: it go, and he's like, no, no, no.

775
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: My mama told me growing up, we kill all roaches.

776
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 5: And I said, like, so that's how the whole roast

777
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: thing came up, And so any time anything happened right now,

778
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: Shaq's like, we're killing roaches, and Shack is so crazy.

779
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 5: He made a rap this song. Yeah, and but I

780
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: don't take it like I really the only person I've

781
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: taken seat, I said honestly is it's skipped bayless, because man,

782
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 5: what we do is such an honor. I don't think

783
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 5: you can say stuff to say it because my whole

784
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: going back then I says, hey, man, there's somebody in Montana, Maine,

785
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 5: South Dakota. If I said something bad about these guys,

786
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: They're like, well, I saw it on television. It's gotta

787
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: be true, right, So I'm be like, man, I'm not

788
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: gonna say anything about a player, especially if it's personal.

789
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 5: There's somebody in Montana or South Dakota gonna say, well,

790
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: you know, Charles Barker said this guy was blah blah blah.

791
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: So I'm never gonna use my platform for negativity.

792
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out of him this one. You

793
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: once said that you've probably lost about twenty million in gambling.

794
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Have you quenched that urge to gamble or do you

795
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: still like to gamble?

796
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: I love to gamble. I don't like the gamble, you know.

797
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: I got.

798
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: I got to the point so I would go to

799
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 5: Vegas and I'd win a million dollars. Damn, Hey, we

800
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 5: want you playing a hand twenty I played twenty five

801
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: thousand and a half. Okay, yeah, a couple of quick

802
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: double dolls you can get them, and quick double don

803
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 5: you get get it up out of your pockets.

804
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: I never know. I don't want no check, I don't

805
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: want you to wire.

806
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: I want cash. And there's probably been seven times I

807
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 5: want a million dollars. Okay, there's probably been twenty five

808
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: times I've lost a million. H So what happened was

809
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: I quit gambling for two years and I always take

810
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: the same group of guys from me and I said, man,

811
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 5: I miss gambling. They're like, why don't you start gambling again?

812
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 5: I said, well, man, I was getting out of hand.

813
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 5: They're like, yo, man, you're gambling. Ain't getting out of hand.

814
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: You're just an idiot, right. And the one thing I

815
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: pride myself on around my friends, they can always be

816
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: honest with me. I said, how are you saying I'm

817
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: a idiot? They're like, yo, man, we'll be sitting there.

818
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 5: You'll be up three four hundred thousand dollars like chuck,

819
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: let's go. You're good for the night, right, And in

820
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 5: my head I'm saying, no, we're not leaving this month.

821
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: I wear a million dollars, right, And they said, Duke,

822
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: there's times you've been up six seven hundred thousand dollars

823
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: and you won't quit because Gable's really just peaks in

824
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: valis it is. It's just peaks in valast It's stock market, Yes,

825
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: that's all it is. And they're like, dude, why can't

826
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 5: you win three hundred thousand dollars? And say, man, we

827
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 5: had a great weekend. Why you gotta win a million?

828
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: And I said what They says, why can't you lose

829
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 5: three hundred and say we still had a great weekend?

830
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 5: And I says, are you serious?

831
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: Right now?

832
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: He says, Man, you know I ain't gonna lie to you.

833
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: Let's win a couple hundred thousand, have a great weekend,

834
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 5: go home.

835
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: Or lose two or three hundred.

836
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: You ain't got to win a million, or you ain't

837
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: got to chase it and lose a million. And so

838
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 5: to answer your question, I said, Yo, man, we're going

839
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: to Vegas for the weekend. We're gonna lose a couple

840
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 5: hundred thousand, or we're gonna win a couple hundred thousand.

841
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: You know what we're gonna do. We're gonna play golf

842
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: every day and get drunk every night. Right, And I

843
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: had to change my mentality because you can never break

844
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 5: the casino.

845
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they can break here.

846
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: Yes, And my friends just set me down and say, yo, man,

847
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: let's just go have fun for the weekend. Let's win

848
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 5: some money or lose a little lose a little bit.

849
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, but that's that's what really happened. Like I say,

850
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: I got such elation, but then when I would lose

851
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: a million, I was so depressed. Not that the money

852
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: just yeah that's bush. Yeah, because of the money, but

853
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: the losing.

854
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: But the winning never feels as good as the losing hurt.

855
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: Yes, you you were so excited when you got all

856
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: that money laying in front of you, but you're like

857
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: the press for a week, you're like, damn, I lost.

858
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: I lost a million dollars. And then you have to

859
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: send the bill till you financial people and they yell

860
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: at you, and you are yelling and yelling and yelling,

861
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: and then I says, hey, y'all better quit yell at me.

862
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: I'm a fire y'all. And then they're like, okay, we'll

863
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 5: pay it. But that's what really happened. I was getting

864
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 5: out of hand because like you just had your point

865
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 5: was so good, no matter how good it feels winning.

866
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 8: When you lose, it just sucks, Kevin Hart.

867
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 10: Now you know when Williams said gatekeepers, Kevin Hart, I

868
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 10: do his podcast, yes, and I want y'all to re

869
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 10: listen to the podcast so you can hear it for yourself.

870
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 10: When he first comes on, he says, you're like my mother,

871
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 10: You're like my aunt, you're like my sister.

872
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 8: Okay.

873
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 10: Then we do the PODC cast. We speak about the

874
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 10: Tyler Perry situation Oprah Winfrey. He said, I don't really

875
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 10: know Oprah, but I'm gonna reach out to Tyler. I

876
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 10: appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out to

877
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 10: Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe a

878
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 10: week or so later. He said, MO, I talked to Tyler.

879
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 10: He said, he don't want to revisit it. He said,

880
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 10: but I tell you what, let's move past that.

881
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: Mod.

882
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 10: Let's just move past that and let's just do great things.

883
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 10: So whatever I want you to hear me, Kevin Hart,

884
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 10: Let's move past that.

885
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Mo.

886
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 10: Let's do some great things together. Don't even worry about it.

887
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 10: Whatever y'all want to do, I will partner with you.

888
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 10: I'll executive produce with you. You just let me know

889
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 10: what you want to do. Now, let me say that

890
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 10: before we go any further, because I want to make

891
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 10: sure I give Kevin Hart his proper credit.

892
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 8: When my family was up against the wall, Kevin Hart

893
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 8: wrote us a check and said, here you go. We're

894
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 8: forever grateful for that.

895
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 10: When we were able to give it back, we said, brother,

896
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 10: we appreciate you with some interest on top because I

897
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 10: don't never want nobody to thing me and my husband.

898
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 10: So I want to make sure I put that out

899
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 10: there that brother really helped us out.

900
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 8: When we needed to be helped out.

901
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 10: Then when he came back with I got you. I

902
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 10: didn't ask Kevin Heart to do anything. He said, our

903
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 10: executive produce, I'll partner with you. I said, good shit, Kevin,

904
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 10: because we're in the deal with in Demoll and we're

905
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 10: trying to get our talk show back.

906
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: MO.

907
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 10: Whatever it is, I got you now, Kevin Hart is

908
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 10: one of the biggest entertainers right now in the world

909
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 10: right and was.

910
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 8: Then we got off the phone with Kevin Hart.

911
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 10: We called in de Mall immediately and said, Kevin Hast said,

912
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 10: whatever we want to do, he got us. He's gonna

913
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 10: partner executive Duse They was like, oh, this is incredible

914
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 10: because when.

915
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 8: You put Kevin Hart name on it, you already know.

916
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 6: What it is.

917
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 10: Two weeks go by, we get a call from in

918
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 10: deomoll and DeMar says, we just got a call from

919
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 10: Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky, and Dave Becky said, Kevin

920
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 10: doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she

921
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 10: told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with her.

922
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 8: Nothing. You know, he doesn't want any any kind of

923
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 8: relationship with Monique.

924
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: So what changed between the two weeks and when?

925
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: And plus he gave your check, you gave the money back,

926
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: then said he would partner with you executive produce whatever

927
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: you need.

928
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: Mo Hey, we got you.

929
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: So what transpired or what do you think transpired between

930
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: then that two week period.

931
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 10: Well, soon as we got off the phone and they

932
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 10: told us what Kevin manager, David Becky said, I called

933
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 10: Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got

934
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 10: off the phone with end Demorrow And they said, Dave

935
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 10: Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything

936
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 10: to do with me. He said, mo' that's a miscommunication.

937
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 10: I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute,

938
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 10: are you okay, though, with this white man calling them up,

939
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 10: getting in between our relationship. Something you said, he said, Mo,

940
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 10: that's a miscommunication and we're gonna talk tuesday. Don't worry

941
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 10: about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication.

942
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 10: That was two years ago. If you talked to him,

943
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 10: I talked to him. I've never talked back to Kevin

944
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 10: Hart again. So that's what we're faced with when you

945
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 10: you allow somebody to come in between a relationship with

946
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 10: a woman that you said, I'm like your mother. You said,

947
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 10: I'm like these things. I didn't ask you for that.

948
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 10: So everything that that baby was saying sitting here, everything

949
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 10: he was saying was only up and up. Because when

950
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 10: you hear people say get the anger out your heart,

951
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 10: oh man, no one's saying he's lying. No one ever

952
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 10: said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and

953
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 10: devalue because of what we look like. However, when it

954
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 10: comes to Tyler Perry, I will not allow you to

955
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 10: discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio.

956
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 10: Remember on Good Times when Penny's mother was whooping up

957
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 10: on you and she had recorded it.

958
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 8: That's you one tape.

959
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 10: So how does it go from you saying you're going

960
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 10: to give me an apology to now, I owe you

961
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 10: an apology.

962
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: But what are you an apology for?

963
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 8: What could I possibly owe you an apology for?

964
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 10: When you've admits See when Lee Daniel says to me,

965
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 10: because Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role.

966
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 10: Now to Roger tore it up, baby it listen here, However,

967
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 10: I was offered that then Felida called me back and say,

968
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 10: baby girl, they said you're too difficult to work with.

969
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 10: But you here on an audio that a man told

970
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 10: David Talbert I was difficult to work with.

971
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 8: Do you see how that cost my family?

972
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

973
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 10: And with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry. No,

974
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 10: you've got to be accountable for that. Oprah Winford, You've

975
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 10: got to be accountable for the things you've done with

976
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 10: my family.

977
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 8: You've got to be accountable for that.

978
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: Is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you

979
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: and Oprah currently?

980
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 8: No?

981
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: No, But I thought there was an apology. I read that.

982
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you

983
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: an apology and Tyler had issued an apology.

984
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: That's not correct.

985
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: No, No, the only person that's given you saw it.

986
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 10: It's Lee Daniels. That's the only person. So we are

987
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 10: in a place where we're too afraid to call them

988
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 10: for what it is. We're too afraid to say, if

989
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 10: it looked like a duck in a quack, like a duck,

990
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 10: what is a Shannon?

991
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 8: It's a duck.

992
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 10: So again you see the struggle of the black woman.

993
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 10: As I'm sitting here talking to you and you say, mogul,

994
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 10: why would you record them? But you heard the man

995
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 10: violate me. The first thing wasn't I can't believe.

996
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 8: That cat did that to you. It's why would you

997
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 8: do it?

998
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 10: And we understand it because we've been conditioned that way.

999
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 10: When we have our juggernauts Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey,

1000
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 10: Kevin Hart. These are our juggernauts of our community. These

1001
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 10: are the people that our babies say, when I grow up,

1002
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 10: I want to be that.

1003
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 8: I want to be like that.

1004
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 10: So we have to call those people to the met

1005
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 10: and say, listen, what are you teaching our babies. You're

1006
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 10: feeding poor because you're showing them you're private jet. I'm

1007
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 10: gonna show you my mansion. I'm gonna show you my

1008
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 10: fancy cars. But my character is shot and I'm bankrupted.

1009
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 10: I got a lot of money in my bank. It's

1010
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 10: more zeros than some of them can. Then we can imagic,

1011
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 10: but their character, they are bankrupt. Those are bankrupt people.

1012
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 10: So everybody that cats sat right here and told you about.

1013
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 10: I can't wait to see your next interviews with those people.

1014
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: They ain't coming on now.

1015
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 8: Moot invite them I have, They're not gonna do it.

1016
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, look I've already done Steve. I have a relationship

1017
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: with Steve.

1018
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 8: He's doing them again. Do him again. And I'm gonna

1019
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 8: say this.

1020
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get Oprah and Tyalado.

1021
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 8: Baby, we got him, y'all come on, stop playing.

1022
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 3: They ain't coming on more fans do you?

1023
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 11: You know how?

1024
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 10: And I don't want to put you on a spot,

1025
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 10: but I'm gonna say it. I appreciate you as a

1026
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 10: black man in what you're doing than you. If you

1027
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 10: are my friend and someone says to me, Monique Shannon

1028
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 10: shop wronged me and you my friend, I'm gonna call

1029
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 10: my friend and I'm gonna say, hey, it's what they're

1030
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 10: saying true. And if you get to Hymen the Han,

1031
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell you till you fix it. You and

1032
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 10: I can't talk because if you'll do them that way,

1033
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 10: it'll be a matter of time before you do it

1034
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 10: to me. So if Steve Harvey is your friend, you

1035
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 10: call your friend up and you ask him, is what

1036
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 10: our sister saying right, man? Cause if it is, we

1037
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 10: can't do that to her. If that's our sister, say

1038
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 10: it took a transgender.

1039
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 8: Named T. S. Madison. It was a guy named Jamaica Carter.

1040
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 10: Jamaica Carter and our mutual friend, Jamaica Carter and our

1041
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 10: friends T. S. Madison was a mutual friend. So Jamaica

1042
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 10: called me and said, would you mind doing T. S.

1043
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 10: Madison's show?

1044
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 8: I go do T. S. Madison's show. When I talk T. S.

1045
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 10: Madison when the camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend

1046
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 10: is wrong, she said, Mom, Niggily Daniels is my friend.

1047
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 10: I said, then you need to call your friend and

1048
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 10: tell him to fix this ship. She said, I will

1049
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 10: within a couple of days. Who did I get a

1050
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 10: call from Lee Daniels. See that's a friend, that's a

1051
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 10: true friend, that's saying I love you so much that

1052
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 10: I want to make sure that's not on your heart.

1053
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 8: Or your conscious. Let's fix it, let's make it right.

1054
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 10: So when people ask Lee, now, when we did the

1055
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 10: deliverance together, how was it to work with my nigga?

1056
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 8: It was as if we had never parted.

1057
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 10: Ways because he fixed it, he owned it, and he

1058
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 10: took accountability for it. I can't now keep you to

1059
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 10: the cross because you've owned it. I've had to be forgiven.

1060
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 10: So I appreciate that someone had grace and mercy with me.

1061
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 10: So I'm gonna have that with other people when they

1062
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 10: take accountability for what they've done.

1063
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: Just hilarious.

1064
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 11: I mean should break your day you want to bring

1065
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 11: I mean you know, yeah, you want to talk about that? No, man, listen,

1066
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 11: look anything you want talking to me about sofa? Ever

1067
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 11: since Cat Williams touched the sofa, the energy in this sofa,

1068
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 11: it makes me want to talk about it.

1069
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean I did.

1070
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard, but she was on

1071
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Cam Newton show and she said, you know, you'all was

1072
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: in a relationship and you know she had to wake

1073
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: you up one morning because it had gotten out that

1074
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: you're all together.

1075
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean you want to you want to lie? I

1076
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: mean she told her side.

1077
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 11: On this show, and you want to tell you, yes, Jess,

1078
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 11: like I always told her she never tells the one

1079
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 11: hundred per cent truth, and I let her do that.

1080
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 11: But I telled the other day, I said, Jess man,

1081
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 11: and I got kind of paid. I said, you gotta

1082
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 11: get more going on in your career so they can

1083
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 11: stopped bringing up my name in your interview. Wow, come

1084
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 11: when I come Netflix Special book. You know what I'm saying,

1085
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 11: this is going on.

1086
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: That going on.

1087
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 11: We don't got to down each other. That's been man,

1088
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 11: that been five years ago. If that's the main courtion

1089
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 11: in your interview, but we gotta put some work in.

1090
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying, Country Wayne, Come when I

1091
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 11: go on Good Morning a miracle here. This is that

1092
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 11: we don't talked about so much for we got to

1093
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 11: that exactly?

1094
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: You feel it.

1095
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 11: I'm like, man, we don't have I was comfortable with

1096
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 11: not talking about it exactly. And I'm like, you can't.

1097
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 11: It's not working in your favor. People go pretending, but

1098
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 11: they watching they see Country Wayne is taking care of

1099
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 11: black people movement. Don't let the people fool you. They

1100
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 11: ain't on your side. I'm like, it ain't. It ain't working.

1101
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 11: So I was just like, man, a lot of that

1102
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 11: that she talk about. I let it slide. But man,

1103
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 11: that stuff ain't play out like that.

1104
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1105
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1106
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 11: I separated from my wife when it got jess, you

1107
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying, and that was it. I started

1108
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 11: talking to her and I got divorcee my divorce for

1109
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 11: forty five days, right, you know what I mean? And

1110
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 11: me and her start talking and then all the stuff

1111
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 11: she talking about it on there with my baby mama

1112
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 11: hit me out. She's like, can you plead as just

1113
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 11: to stop talking about that because now the kids are

1114
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 11: hearing it at school because she keep bringing it up.

1115
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 11: And that's the only reason.

1116
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 6: Made me hit up.

1117
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 11: I'm like, jeez, man, I ain't never saying nothing negative

1118
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 11: about you and everybody know that lick that ride, you

1119
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying. But she want to be the window.

1120
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 11: I'm like, jeez, just be real, Cause charloumaead one time

1121
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 11: he said, how you knew just Hi?

1122
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: Larry?

1123
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 11: I said, how she knew Country Wayne, I'm gonna catch

1124
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 11: you what you're talking about? Like, let's be real, my

1125
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 11: my baby mamas. Yeah, they fined us, don't know what

1126
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 11: just fined too?

1127
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Right?

1128
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 11: But I been had them. She ain't had no country Wayne, Right,

1129
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, let's

1130
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 11: just let's stop that.

1131
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 6: Man.

1132
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 11: First of all, two black people talking. If you gonna speak,

1133
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 11: just speak the truth that this so for right here.

1134
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: No, no, now, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't

1135
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: don't do that.

1136
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: Don't do that.

1137
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: No.

1138
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm like, man, but you did say

1139
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: you know, she woke you up?

1140
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 11: No, they ain't. Come on, man, that ain't like that.

1141
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 11: Not happened like that. Man, that the voice went so fast.

1142
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 11: I filed this summer. We was we may my baby

1143
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 11: Mama's divorce by February.

1144
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: But at that point in time, when you had separated

1145
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: from your wife, you had started talking to Jet.

1146
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, I had started talking to Jet. Okay, Now all

1147
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 11: this stuff came out in the shad room. A lot

1148
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 11: of that was after that, right, you know what I'm saying. Right,

1149
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 11: And she just she said we woke up. And then

1150
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 11: she was like, Okay, I tell him all the time,

1151
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 11: it's stuff coining. I'm like, why you got a call.

1152
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 11: I'm still corning because I got a different audience that

1153
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 11: followed me to right, you know what I mean? I

1154
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 11: got the streets in the church. Ain't too many artists

1155
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 11: got the streets in the church, you know what I mean?

1156
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: Man, would I be seeing what you be talking about?

1157
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: You be making on social media money that ain't nothing

1158
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: corner by corner.

1159
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 11: But see that's that mentality of people from a certain

1160
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 11: It's like this world, think this world corner, this world,

1161
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 11: think this world corner. I think Martin was a good

1162
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 11: show in Big Bang Theory, right, just because you think

1163
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 11: friends corner when they get the million the episode, you

1164
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 11: ain't gonna never grow artistically because you think only what

1165
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 11: you come from is good, right, And that's the problem

1166
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 11: with everybody. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, bru,

1167
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 11: you gonna call it this corner just because I ain't cursing?

1168
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 11: Come to get this instream ad money where y'all keep

1169
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 11: going on tour, Yeah, gotta keep catching Why way ain't

1170
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 11: sitting home in the bed spending time with your kid?

1171
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying?

1172
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Making this, you know what I mean?

1173
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: So, what's what's your favorite viral video that you created?

1174
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: Man?

1175
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 6: Sho?

1176
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 11: I guess the first one when you have to fake

1177
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 11: like you like a girlfriend's cooking be cause that's that

1178
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 11: that started it off and that day, but.

1179
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: That was true on her. You had to fake a

1180
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: couple of times.

1181
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 11: Huh yeah, I yeah, I don't have to fake a

1182
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 11: lot of time. Man, My I ain't gonna lie. Boy,

1183
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 11: my boy, my baby mama cooked me some port chops

1184
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 11: some time, just not eating that pork and it was

1185
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 11: so good. But let me tell you something, my blood

1186
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 11: pressure shot through my hair.

1187
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 6: Man.

1188
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 11: I remember I was laying on the sofa and she

1189
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 11: had cooked me one. But it was so good, and

1190
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 11: I knew it was the pork chop. Well, gil what

1191
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 11: I said? She said, you want some more? Yeah, just

1192
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 11: give me more, but let me tell you.

1193
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: How to kill me.

1194
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 11: Then I had this white girl named Hollow at one time.

1195
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: What's she cook? I shouldn't be saying their name? Man,

1196
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: what's in this water? You Maine?

1197
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 6: Right?

1198
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 11: I need to move it from BD. I got too clothes.

1199
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 11: Put that in between them when somebody so far right here?

1200
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 11: But hey, nah, but Holland she I had started going

1201
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 11: veggan and she said, hear me saying, you know, she's

1202
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 11: a white girl. So so she like, I'm gonna do

1203
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 11: something different than the black girls.

1204
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: I hear him.

1205
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 11: He said, he wants food.

1206
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 6: Man.

1207
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: She cooked me some brownish.

1208
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 11: I waited for them to dry all day. She said

1209
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 11: they were just weir because they ain't had dry. Let

1210
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 11: me tell you something that good A got duringok gone,

1211
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 11: like they killed my guy during the throw instant. He

1212
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 11: was like glue and I was tasting her. She's like,

1213
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 11: I said, it's boys. It like to killed me.

1214
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 8: Man.

1215
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: But you know, everybody gonna be able to cook that

1216
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 3: vegan food.

1217
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 11: Like I know, but I tellt you that, Yeah, everybody's

1218
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 11: gonna be able to cook it. I tell people, only

1219
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 11: way you're gonna be able to cook the vegan if

1220
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 11: you was able to cook the real food. So I

1221
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 11: think all the real cooks just a real cook because

1222
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 11: the people who are good at vegan it was the

1223
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 11: people who was cooking good food anyway.

1224
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: So the one you did when you found out your

1225
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: thirteen year old son had her girlfriend.

1226
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 3: And her mama was fine, Yeah I did, man.

1227
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 11: I was coming up. I come up with skits all day.

1228
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 11: So what I was doing once I seen that money

1229
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 11: in those skits, I was coming up with these scenarios

1230
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 11: I got in my head and I just put them out.

1231
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying I come up with ideas

1232
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 11: to the DODDA.

1233
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: You do this, you do this, you do this.

1234
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 11: Bam, we don't edit, we record it. Cut off the action,

1235
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 11: cut off the cut.

1236
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: Bam, We're there, We're done.

1237
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 11: I don't edit and nothing. I usn cell phone.

1238
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: Really yeah, so you got very little overhead when you

1239
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: shooting this.

1240
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 11: The money go to the people instead of equipment. That's

1241
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 11: sound because it cost me two hundred fifty thousand dollars

1242
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 11: a month to shoot these skits. Now, yeah, you know

1243
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 11: what I'm saying now, But.

1244
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: You shoot like thirty and forty.

1245
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know. I dropped three hundred skits a month.

1246
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 11: That's cause like nine hundred and something skits a day.

1247
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 11: I mean nine nine skits a day right sometime ten, uh,

1248
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 11: most time ten ten to twelve. Cause Phil got two,

1249
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 11: Very got three, might got three that eight. Then I

1250
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 11: got to yes, somebody round the tense skits.

1251
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 6: Yep.

1252
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: That makes you your strategy because you say you big

1253
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: on Facebook and a lot of people. And I had

1254
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: to get out this way of thinking, like when you

1255
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: looked at Facebook, you think, okay, class reunion, family reunion.

1256
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 11: That's why that's why Jess called me corny because she

1257
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 11: thinks that audience corned. But that's who got the money. See,

1258
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 11: they aiming at the wrong audience, right, because the Aunties

1259
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 11: is the one giving the Mama's giving you money, you

1260
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying. So the audience, it's the hardest

1261
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 11: audience to get because if if Beyonce got a cake,

1262
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 11: it Ashley got a cake, they gonna taste it. Whoever

1263
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 11: cake is better, right, they gonna buy. But the Keavin's

1264
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 11: Beyonce a cake.

1265
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: But there's a big enough audience, Taylor Swift audience isn't

1266
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: necessarily Beyonce's audience.

1267
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: But you don't think they're making no grip they make.

1268
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 11: It's a lot of people in this world, man, thank you,

1269
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 11: And when black people to blow up with the black

1270
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 11: commun and really get that money, because you know, that's

1271
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 11: why to be all this, I'm just being transparent. That's

1272
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 11: why I'm able to make so much more than a

1273
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 11: lot of black creators because I got everybody. Now, everybody

1274
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 11: might not like me in this clique, but everybody knows

1275
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 11: what country Wayne and every click right, and you go

1276
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 11: to the streets, I'm like, oh, I rock with Wayne Drill.

1277
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: You go to the other teams.

1278
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 11: Oh I love country Wayne Rick Smaller, Tyler prerr fans

1279
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 11: love Cuatchy Wayne.

1280
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 6: Right.

1281
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 11: But what I realized, as black people, you can't afford

1282
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 11: to cut out for audience because there's not enough.

1283
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1284
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 11: So when you black and that's all you got, you

1285
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 11: better be transparent.

1286
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: Right.

1287
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 11: That's why I stopped cursing in my company. Okay, I'm

1288
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 11: already wrong, so let me stop cursing. So at least,

1289
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 11: because it's hard to.

1290
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 3: Sell out, you can get another demographic.

1291
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's what happened. I end up getting the

1292
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 11: church they like, Okay, Wayne won'ty, you know what I'm saying.

1293
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 11: But at the same time, at least he don't curse,

1294
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 11: right and uh and in the hood, like Wayne ain't cursing.

1295
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 11: We only but he talking about the right subject, right,

1296
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 11: So I had to if you you get that all

1297
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 11: audiences and you know what I'm saying, you Taylor swift them.

1298
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1299
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 11: If youre dealing with black people, man, you better be transparent.

1300
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: You go to Auburn and then there's this Auburn bought

1301
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: cam Newton. His daddy received this large monetary summer money.

1302
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: How what would so, so what's going on? How did

1303
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: this come about allegedly, Yes, you know, before you so

1304
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: where were the schools that you could have gone to? Okay,

1305
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: you go to Auburn. So where after Blend? Where were

1306
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: your choices?

1307
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 9: Oklahoma, Kansas State, Mississippi State, Auburn. It was a whole

1308
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 9: different recruitment process when I was in Cheu Kot rather

1309
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 9: than coming out of high school. Out of high school,

1310
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 9: I was looking for gear and a good time right

1311
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 9: by way of.

1312
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: You know the hostesses.

1313
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 9: Yeah and Juko Oh, I was. I was a millionaire mentality.

1314
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 9: How are y'all gonna incorporate me in this offense with

1315
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 9: my skill set?

1316
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: Not what.

1317
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 9: Sam Bradford was doing, because that that ain't how I

1318
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 9: play the game. I'm gonna bring a whole different element

1319
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 9: of this offense that you gotta start shaping some surround

1320
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 9: Kansas State the same way Missippi State. Dann mully right,

1321
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 9: and he knew Dan Mullin was the offensive coordinator and

1322
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 9: the quarterback coach while I was at Florida.

1323
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so you have some familiarity.

1324
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 9: There were a lot of familiarity and his plan was

1325
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 9: I remember Coach Muller had called me and at that time,

1326
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 9: me being the type of player. I was if a

1327
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 9: coach calling you that means you ain't going to study hall,

1328
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 9: you didn't go to class.

1329
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: It was something.

1330
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 9: But this conversation was him telling me that he was

1331
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 9: going Mississippi State to Misippi State.

1332
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: It ended up being mischiss State.

1333
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 9: He didn't tell me the team, saying to myself, well,

1334
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 9: he asked, he wants me to consider transferring to Missippi State.

1335
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 9: But coach uh Malason, coach Myer Urban had to sign

1336
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 9: off on that, and I knew he wasn't gonna sign

1337
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 9: off for that, so I had to go to junior college. Now,

1338
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 9: when you when you say the things like going through

1339
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 9: the whole n Cuba pay for play scandal, this is

1340
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 9: where I don't think I've ever had the opportunity to

1341
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 9: share this. If you really go back and you know

1342
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 9: the reports to what it said, it said two sources, yes,

1343
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 9: said that Cam Newton and.

1344
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 4: His father took money to go to Auburn. Those two

1345
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: sources was Dann Mullen and his wife Megan Mullen.

1346
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: How do we get to that. I'll tell you.

1347
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 9: The day I was going to commit to Auburn out

1348
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 9: of junior college, it was neck and neck Mississippi State, Mississippi.

1349
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: State of Auburn.

1350
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 9: When I went to Auburn, as my mental was solely

1351
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 9: focused on success, I was really trying to play catch

1352
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 9: up to the Joe Hayden's, the Marquise Pouncey's, the Aaron

1353
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 9: Nandez who were already in the league. And I said

1354
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 9: to myself, we came in together, and in Florida, they

1355
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 9: already in the league.

1356
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find the fastest way that I can

1357
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 4: get to the league.

1358
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 9: When I went to Auburn, they mentioned that they would

1359
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 9: have twenty two seniors coming back. Mississippi State probably only

1360
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 9: had three to four. These are all different things. As

1361
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 9: a twenty year old college player and a sixteen seventeen

1362
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 9: year old kid, you don't think that that's a big thing,

1363
01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 9: but it really is.

1364
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: My whole determining factor was I wanted to go to

1365
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 3: a school.

1366
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 4: That could get me to a BCS game that was

1367
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: either the Tostedos Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, whatever.

1368
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 9: If I went there, and my tenure at that school,

1369
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 9: I was going top ten because I knew in order

1370
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 9: for us to get there, I would have to play

1371
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 9: my best former football. When I was about to commit,

1372
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 9: to Auburn. One of the things that my father told

1373
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 9: me that I had to do as a man. He said,

1374
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 9: you got to call coach Mullen and you have to

1375
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 9: tell him the decision that you're gonna make be a man.

1376
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: I said, damn, Pop, Like, why though you know what

1377
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: I'm saying, he gonna find out. You know what I'm saying.

1378
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: He can read.

1379
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 9: But that's how my father raised me. He said, So

1380
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 9: you're gonna have to be a man. And that's that's

1381
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 9: where I always challenge society. Now we need more men

1382
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 9: in power, men, not boys raising boys. You did you

1383
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. But certain circumstances play out like that.

1384
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 9: But to that point, I put a lot of focus

1385
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 9: on my font I said, Pop, you a man of God.

1386
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 9: If it's on your heart to wherever we're gonna decide

1387
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 9: to go, that's where we're gonna go.

1388
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 3: Man.

1389
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 9: At that time, we were exploring so many different things,

1390
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 9: and he came back wrote it down on the street

1391
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 9: of paper.

1392
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 3: I unlooked.

1393
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 9: I looked at it. It had Auburn on it. I said,

1394
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 9: I ain't gonna even question it. That's where we're going.

1395
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 9: That day that I was gonna make it public. I

1396
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 9: had to call Coach Mullen. I remember having a conversation.

1397
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 9: It was extremely awkward because when I called him, he answered,

1398
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 9: how's my quarterback doing? And I said, Coach, I just

1399
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 9: wanted to be a man to call you and tell

1400
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 9: you and Miss Megan that I'm going to Auburn. I

1401
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 9: didn't want you to hear it through the grape vines.

1402
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 9: I didn't want you to hear it on ESPN. I

1403
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 9: wanted to be a man to call you. And he

1404
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 9: asked me this question, but how cam like you know?

1405
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 9: I was gonna do right by you.

1406
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 1: We need you.

1407
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 4: And I gave him this quote.

1408
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: It was just too good to be true.

1409
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 9: Now, too good to be true for me was you

1410
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 9: got twenty two seniors, They battle tested. I ain't going

1411
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 9: into a locker room with freshmen. These they ready to

1412
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 9: win right now. They just need me to propel them

1413
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 9: to elite status. Missippi State needed meet and son, and

1414
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 9: I don't think Missippi State garners the measure of recruits

1415
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 9: like comel It's Mississippi State here and still Missippi State

1416
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 9: at that particular point in time.

1417
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 4: And I heard Miss Meghan in the background.

1418
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: I was like, did he commit did he commit. He

1419
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: was like no, And then that's when I talked to

1420
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: her and I was like, man.

1421
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 9: I just apologized, but this is a business decision that

1422
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 9: I'm sad and that it that it didn't work out.

1423
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 9: Had that conversation when I was twenty, and I thought

1424
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 9: I was doing the right thing. So fast forward to

1425
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 9: the success going on at Auburn. First game we played

1426
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 9: Arkansas State. I think the next game or the first

1427
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 9: prime time game we had was Versussissippi State. It was

1428
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 9: on a Thursday night. We ended up winning that football game.

1429
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 9: And I'm big on energy. I'm big on.

1430
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: Just posture and certain things.

1431
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 9: At the end of the game, I looked at him

1432
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 9: and I wanted I wanted to shake his hand and say,

1433
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 9: coach Man, appreciate you, man, thank you.

1434
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 4: And it was iffy, though, No, what the what?

1435
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: What the hood teach you?

1436
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: Like?

1437
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like my spidery sense.

1438
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: Was he on some bull? You did what I'm saying.

1439
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 4: I ain't really know what it was.

1440
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 3: His wife was there.

1441
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 9: We spoke condolences, man, good luck for the rest of

1442
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 9: the year. You know what I'm saying, Blase Bla. The

1443
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 9: report came two weeks after that, and if you remember,

1444
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 9: it was two sources. It was Dan Mullen and his

1445
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 9: wife that created.

1446
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: All this.

1447
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 3: Ruckus. Cam and his daddy took money. Yea.

1448
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 9: Now fast forward to now when it's becoming a big story.

1449
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 9: I remember after the game, we had another prime time

1450
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 9: game on Saturday night, we played South Carolina. That was

1451
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 9: when the world knew who Cam Newton was. Another phone

1452
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 9: called by coach Coach Chizzick. And anybody who played at

1453
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 9: Auburn new if somebody's calling you from a no call ID,

1454
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 9: it's coach Chizie. That ain't a good call that you

1455
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 9: want to have. But I was in good standards, you

1456
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. We undefeated at that particular point.

1457
01:13:58,880 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 6: Thing.

1458
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 9: You said, Cam to talk to you and your Are

1459
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 9: your parents still in town? Say yes, sir said, I

1460
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 9: need y'all to come to my office and we need

1461
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 9: to have a conversation.

1462
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: Cool boom.

1463
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, you know, about to just stay the technical

1464
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 9: area job blah blah.

1465
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 3: Blah, y'all rather unbelievable.

1466
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 4: Goodness, it's working out fine.

1467
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: I remember it.

1468
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 9: Look it was me, my mom and my dad and

1469
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 9: Coach Chiswick sitting across from us, and you know, Coach Chiswick,

1470
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 9: you know, hey, I just want to let y'all know

1471
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 9: it's about to be a report that comes out that

1472
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 9: a scandal and the NC double is about to do

1473
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 9: an investigation on you guys's family. So we're looking around like, O,

1474
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 9: who for what say? There's a report that you guys

1475
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 9: took money to come here.

1476
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, cool, how much we talking? Boom?

1477
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 4: He said one hundred and eighty thousand.

1478
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: Looked at my mama. My mama looked at me.

1479
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 4: We bust out laughing time.

1480
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: Why you see it? Like for real?

1481
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 11: We laughing.

1482
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 9: Coach Chinzack ain't laughing. I was like, oh you for real?

1483
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 9: So I'm saying to myself, I'm looking at my mama. Mama,

1484
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 9: you got an undred of the eighty pop you got

1485
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 9: an underd Like, well, I'm from you can't hide that

1486
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 9: type of money he seen. I ain't never seen a

1487
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 9: thousand dollars, let alone one hundred and eighty to two

1488
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 9: hundred thousand, right, shall be hard to hide, especially man

1489
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 9: in our house. Boy, we gonna man, I done found

1490
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 9: so much from PlayStations, the Sega Genesis to all that

1491
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 9: that they tried to hide from us. I'm like, man,

1492
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 9: how who who got it?

1493
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: It was?

1494
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 9: It was a suspicion to us, like who got this

1495
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 9: money that y'all proclaiming us to him God?

1496
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 3: And he was just reporting it was.

1497
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 9: He's like, listen, I don't know who did it or

1498
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 9: who got it, but the end is about to open

1499
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 9: an investigation and uncover as much as they possibly can.

1500
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 9: And during that stint, from that week on throughout even

1501
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 9: the National Championship, that burden was always on and I

1502
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 9: no longer was an amateur athlete, had to operate as

1503
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 9: if I was a CEO. I had to operate and

1504
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 9: be stoic and be strong. And when somebody would ask

1505
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 9: cam you all right, yeah, yeah, I'm good, knowing good

1506
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 9: and well, I was suffering in silence. Nobody could could

1507
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 9: go through what I went through. Not my family, not

1508
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 9: my teammates, not my coaches. Not only am I being

1509
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 9: investigated throughout the day. I'm trying to play the best

1510
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 9: form of football that I possibly can during game time,

1511
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 9: and I'm going through so much I can't speak to them.

1512
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 9: I'm talking to my dad, I'm talking to my brothers,

1513
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 9: I'm talking to you know, my family, but they don't

1514
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 9: get it. They they there for support, but it's not

1515
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 9: like we understand what you said. That's the only thing

1516
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 9: that they can say. And I'm saying to myself, bro,

1517
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 9: it's hard. We're playing after that. You got LSU, you

1518
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 9: got Arkansas, you got Georgia, you got all these games,

1519
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 9: and I'm like, yo, on top of that, this is

1520
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 9: the greatest season that the Auburn University has ever had.

1521
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 3: You got Alabama?

1522
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 6: How are you doing this?

1523
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: I was having an outer body experience in my body.

1524
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 9: Like I'm like, yo, I'm surpriseding myself with the measure

1525
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 9: of focus that I had to go through.

1526
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,520
Speaker 1: And still.

1527
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 9: That's what brought my family closer because even though I know,

1528
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 9: even though I knew still to this day, nobody took

1529
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 9: money from it.

1530
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 4: That was just a grenade thrown into the crowd to just.

1531
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: Have a bitter person.

1532
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 9: He didn't to my school, so he had to have

1533
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 9: tooken some money to go to that school because we

1534
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 9: had already had a relationship.

1535
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 3: But I was thinking to myself, you didn't play me

1536
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: while you was at Florida.

1537
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 9: These are all things that I'm saying, like I seen

1538
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 9: your true self, right, I didn't want to get burnt twice.

1539
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,879
Speaker 3: So on top of that, these things are happening.

1540
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 9: And through it all, by the like I said, by

1541
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 9: the grace of God, I was able to still perform

1542
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 9: at a high level.

1543
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 4: And my father.

1544
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: Jumped on that greenade. No one good and well. He

1545
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: ain't take no money.

1546
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 9: Knowing good and well, he said, look, how can we

1547
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 9: allow my son to play? Well, we're gonna need somebody

1548
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 9: to take there, to take this rap, my father said, without.

1549
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: Blinking, I take it.

1550
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 9: Paint me however you want to paint me right, I'll

1551
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 9: do it for my son. He gonna be eligible to

1552
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 9: play cool.

1553
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 4: I'll take it.

1554
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 9: Well, Cecil, you can't. You can't come to no more games.

1555
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 9: And still to this day it was told while during

1556
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 9: the Heisman ceremony, they said, I think it's best for

1557
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 9: you not to show up for that. I took that personal.

1558
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 2: And the person that meant the most, that had the

1559
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: greatest impact on Cam Newton, the player, the man that

1560
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: he became at at his highest moment to date, the

1561
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: man that meant so much to you couldn't be there

1562
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 2: to share it with you.

1563
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 9: I could not share the moment I remember winning the

1564
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 9: Heisman ceremony stutter and I was nervous, but I didn't

1565
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 9: want to be there. I wanted to be with my dad.

1566
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 9: I wanted to be with my family because this was

1567
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 9: my opportunity to show my dad.

1568
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: Like thank him, to thank him.

1569
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 4: But also my dad challenged me every day.

1570
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 3: Boy, that's not right.

1571
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 9: Boy, you got to be a man from I'm seven, eight, twelve, thirteen, fifteen, seventeen,

1572
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 9: still in.

1573
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: College, so you got to be a man.

1574
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 7: That ain't no man.

1575
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 9: Take responsibility, take accountability. This was this was me showing

1576
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 9: him pap On being a man. Pop, look at me,

1577
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,799
Speaker 9: Look at what you created.

1578
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: Man, man, it's us. This ain't just me, This ain't

1579
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: cam Newton. This for our whole lineage. This is for

1580
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: the whole Newton name. This is what you created. Let

1581
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: me share that with you.

1582
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 9: Everybody was excited, but they stripped that from me. But Archie, Manny,

1583
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 9: that ain't no question. But if it's Lamar Ball, that's

1584
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 9: a problem. Deon Sanders, Oh he playing all that or that.

1585
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 9: These are great forms of King Richard, men who meant

1586
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 9: so much, And that was trying to put their family

1587
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 9: in the best situation.

1588
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods father, that was these people my.

1589
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 9: Father has did nothing wrong and was painted as a villain.

1590
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 9: Still to this day, he still ain't been backed off.

1591
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: Truth be told. Do you get an opportunity to get

1592
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: back to Auburn? Yeah, but I ain't never been back

1593
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 3: to the Heisman for what.

1594
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 9: They didn't care about my family at that point in time,

1595
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 9: because if they knew, we was telling everybody, like one

1596
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 9: hundred and two hundred thousand, you can't hide that, not

1597
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 9: in my community, not in my culture.

1598
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 3: You would have seen it in a car. You would

1599
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: have seen it in the house.

1600
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 4: You would have seen it in something, a business, the church.

1601
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: Something. They couldn't find. Nothing.

1602
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 4: And this was an investigation that took place for more than.

1603
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: About three to five years.

1604
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: Nothing.

1605
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: But when I'm suffering, and all everybody really cared is

1606
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: are you all right? Can you play?

1607
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 9: I was ineligible for a day, and boy, who what

1608
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 9: we gonna do? I got eligible again, and now it

1609
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 9: put everybody at ease, not knowing that.

1610
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 3: Like bro y'all at these I'm not at ease.

1611
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: But I used those what is it twelve?

1612
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 9: I used that forty minutes, for forty two minutes on

1613
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 9: Saturday to inflict what was being afflicted to me complete

1614
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 9: disregard to how I feel and whoever I was playing,

1615
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 9: they was gonna feel me. So you're seeing a lot

1616
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 9: of examples of me using my circumstance, not letting my

1617
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 9: circumstance use me. Jimmy Clauson, Tim Tebow, Irvin Meyer, the

1618
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 9: n C double A, damn mother, damn man.

1619
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: Somebody got to pay for this.

1620
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 4: And I'm doing this is a peaceful protest sort of speak.

1621
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 9: I ain't going off the rail and saying like, man,

1622
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 9: let me tell y'all, bro, y'all, y'all, y'all doing too much.

1623
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 9: N C double A your call them a house. You know,

1624
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 9: people were reports of espn all everybody seeing then like

1625
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 9: this was big news. You don't care about my family.

1626
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 9: People were staking out of my house asking like it

1627
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 9: did you do it? On into stadiums where they disrespecting

1628
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 9: me by playing son of a preacher man like these

1629
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 9: are facts, all scam Newton.

1630
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: You think what I'm saying, yes' say, this's the whole.

1631
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 9: Thing that people ain't thinking about what I went through.

1632
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 9: And I'm telling you, like, bro, that ain't That's what

1633
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 9: I displayed. There is no different than what an average

1634
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 9: black man or black family goes through on a regularity.

1635
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: It may not be through sports. It may be through circumstances.

1636
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 9: Mom working two and three jobs to provide, single parent,

1637
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 9: or the fathers is not around, or he's trying.

1638
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 4: To provide as best as he can.

1639
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: These are all.

1640
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 4: Trauma that I was lucky to use that trauma to

1641
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 4: put on my shoulder.

1642
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: The southing.

1643
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 3: I gotta keep going. I gotta keep going. This my

1644
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 3: way out.

1645
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 9: I ain't about to be no doctor, I ain't about

1646
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 9: to be no lawyer. I'm about to be a football

1647
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 9: and I don't care what my circumstance is. I gotta

1648
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 9: perform and put that, compartmentalize that, put that away for

1649
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 9: these forty two minutes while I show the world I'm the.

1650
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: Best football player. The game the Iron Bowl. You guys

1651
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: go down twenty four to nothing.

1652
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 4: That team is loaded, that's what That may be the

1653
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 4: best Alabama team ever.

1654
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: You guys are in Tuscal looser, you fall behind twenty

1655
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: four to nothing. That was you say, Carolina, put your

1656
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: but that was the game. That was your you know,

1657
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,560
Speaker 2: say a Heisman moment. You had a Heisman game. The

1658
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: entirety of the game from the point that you were

1659
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 2: down twenty four to nothing could really be your highlights

1660
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: and you don't need any others. Yeah, what's going through

1661
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: your mind? What's the team's psyche at that point in time.

1662
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: You're in Tuscaloosa. That's your chiefest rival, that's through That

1663
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: might be the greatest rivalry in college sports. I understand

1664
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Duke North Carolina, Ohio State, Michigan, but they're not in state,

1665
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: and it's divided. You either love Alabama and hate Alburt.

1666
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: You either love Albred or you hate Alabama. There is

1667
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: no in between.

1668
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: It ain't no cousins.

1669
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1670
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 4: It's bad blood.

1671
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that.

1672
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 4: And I think coach Chiswick did a great job leading

1673
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 4: up until that week.

1674
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 9: Because that always will be the game around Thanksgiving and

1675
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 9: school's out.

1676
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 4: That's just the first introduction to what professional sports will be.

1677
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 9: All we had to do is prepare for that game,

1678
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 9: you know, training table, work out, watch film, whatever.

1679
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: And he would give us speakers to talk about what.

1680
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: That game was like. Now.

1681
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 9: Me being at the University of Florida, I was a

1682
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 9: part of some rivalries Georgia, Florida, Florida, Florida State, Florida, Miami.

1683
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 9: I witnessed all of them. They were rivalries, but the

1684
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 9: Iron Bowl is a little different. It's a different energy different.

1685
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 9: And I remember going to the game and they had

1686
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 9: canceled our tiger walk that's when you get off the

1687
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 9: bus and then you have your fans. And I asked her,

1688
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 9: I said, why we don't got tigo hall. Simple question

1689
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 9: or simple answer was it's just not safe. Damn we

1690
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 9: and kinda ain't this amateur sports, right man. We was approaching,

1691
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 9: you know, the stadium, the bus rocking, bus rocking, and

1692
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 9: I remember looking outside it was a couple who had

1693
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 9: to be seventy plus. They flicking us off.

1694
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 3: Damn, it's grandpa. They all about it.

1695
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 9: Me mo on them was flicking us off. And I said, oh,

1696
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 9: it's that type of game. When we entered, or when

1697
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 9: I entered the stadium, on the field, they throwing you know,

1698
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 9: beer bottles and beer on like, oh, it's that type

1699
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 9: of game, all right. I see what we got disrespect

1700
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 9: is overload. We go down twenty four. I say, okay, cool,

1701
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 9: we got to score before halftime. Man, I'm saying to myself,

1702
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 9: bro Cam, if you're gonna do anything great, just gonna

1703
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 9: ceement your legacy right here. And dare I just make

1704
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 9: it all about me because we had unbelievable effort from

1705
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 9: Nick Fairley, the defense, Terrell Zachary, Darvin Adams, Michael Dyer,

1706
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 9: Lee Zimba, like these guys were a part of that

1707
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 9: puzzle to get us to it, and now I got

1708
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 9: a lot of the credit.

1709
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 4: But these are the unsung heroes too.

1710
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: And I just remember making it so personal, like this ain't.

1711
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 4: Where we stop at.

1712
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 3: We gotta keep going.

1713
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 9: And as you know, being an athlete, that's what gives

1714
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 9: you that stamp of approval that we want to hear.

1715
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 9: What your take was, What was it like in the

1716
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 9: locker room? Did you have to grab somebody by? How

1717
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 9: they shoulder paths?

1718
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: And safe?

1719
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 9: We got thirty more minutes to impact the rest of

1720
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 9: our lives.

1721
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: What we're gonna do. I'm about to barbecue. You're gonna

1722
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 3: get a plate that's rock and roll.

1723
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 9: Them type of stories you can't get by just reporting

1724
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 9: the news because it takes a different measure of experience.

1725
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 9: And even though Travis Kelsey may be able to be

1726
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 9: talked to in this type of way, you can't talk

1727
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 9: to Shannon Shout like that.

1728
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't even got to talk to it. You

1729
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 3: just gotta look you sure, bro.

1730
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: Those type of.

1731
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 9: Connections or wi fi is something that only having the

1732
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 9: experience in the game can share that, and I did

1733
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 9: not want that opportunity to be missed because I was

1734
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 9: fighting so much more off the field that on the

1735
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 9: field was just a playground.

1736
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: That was my place of refuge.

1737
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 9: You can't talk to me, reporter while I'm playing. Yeah,

1738
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 9: I'm at piece blah blah la la la la la

1739
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 9: lah lah.

1740
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 4: And every time I ran, I ran with with with

1741
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 4: a vengeance. I wanted to hurt somebody because I was hurt,

1742
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 4: and I used it as a way to give me my.

1743
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 3: Ad We both worked with Skip.

1744
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: You work with him, I think a little longer than

1745
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I have, and we both have given him credit for

1746
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: opening up his platform and allowing us to be who

1747
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: we are and we could grow our own platforms, become,

1748
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: as you mentioned earlier, businesses of myself.

1749
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 3: What's what's for the people?

1750
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people have heard, and I'm

1751
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: gonna follow up after you Skip, What's.

1752
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: What's he really like?

1753
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Because I think the thing is if you've never met him,

1754
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: you just see him on television, you say, Okay, that's

1755
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: khiming who he is.

1756
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 12: Skip's a different beast. I don't I don't know. If

1757
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 12: you can just describe him in one simple way you

1758
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 12: can you can't. This dude's definition of advice is diing

1759
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 12: mountain duwe.

1760
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: This dude was in the.

1761
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 12: Sixties and in the seventies, running anywhere for five to

1762
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 12: eight miles a day, eating the same meals for breakfast, lunch,

1763
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 12: at dinner, introducing himself to his now wife and their

1764
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 12: first date. You will never be more important than my job.

1765
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 12: Get over that from now or don't bother. I mean,

1766
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 12: that's his definition of turning her on.

1767
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: I guess.

1768
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 12: So I'm just like, that's he's a different animal, you know,

1769
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 12: And there are highs and lows that come with him.

1770
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: Correct.

1771
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 12: He knows that there's highs and lows that come with me.

1772
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,839
Speaker 12: There's highs and lows that come with you and everybody,

1773
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 12: and that's the way it goes. But you know, I'm

1774
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 12: a man first, and it's about a core decency of appreciation.

1775
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 3: The reality is is.

1776
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 12: That no matter how problematic, and he can be problematic

1777
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 12: at times, no matter how problematic he can be, the

1778
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 12: reality is is that I wouldn't be where I am today.

1779
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 6: If he didn't give me that opportunity.

1780
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 12: On first take, and so for me to be where

1781
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 12: I am and to know that it's springboards off of

1782
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 12: something that he was directly involved in making happen.

1783
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 3: For me to insult him in any.

1784
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 12: Ways just disrespectful. It's wrong and it's something that I

1785
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 12: would never do.

1786
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1787
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 12: That don't mean I can't disagree with him absolutely, That

1788
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 12: doesn't mean that I can't feel that he's wrong. And

1789
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 12: anybody like a Jamie Hardwich yourself and others who know

1790
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 12: me have gotten to know me. In your case, you

1791
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 12: know I would tell him he's wrong to his face.

1792
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 12: He knows where I stand, but it doesn't take away

1793
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 12: my love and appreciation for him and the fact that

1794
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 12: he will always be a brother from another.

1795
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Mother to me. Yes, So I've always made that clear

1796
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: with everybody.

1797
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not often that someone can give you that opportunity.

1798
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 2: And I've said this several times. For me, I cannot

1799
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 2: let six months ruin six and a half good years, right,

1800
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 2: because sometimes people are really to throw everything away for

1801
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: one mistake, for one bad comment or one something like this,

1802
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: And even though that was all we were supposed to get,

1803
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: my sister tells me this all the time, says, Shanna,

1804
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: this was all we're supposed to get. About five four

1805
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: months ago, I had Tabitha Brown sitting right.

1806
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: I've interviewed her before. She's fantastic. Stephen A. She had

1807
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 3: no idea this was going on.

1808
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 2: So we wrapped the interview and I'm gonna end it

1809
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: on this one and I'm taking off my microphone. She says,

1810
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: is a mix off. I said, well, I'm taking my

1811
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 2: mic off. You can take yours off. We took our

1812
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 2: mics off, and she leans in close to me. She said,

1813
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 2: I had a dream last night. God told me it's

1814
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: gonna be okay, and for you to go ahead and

1815
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: do what you need to do, she says, it's gonna

1816
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: be different, but you need to go on your own now.

1817
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 2: God told me that, she said. Now you do what

1818
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 2: you want to do with it. But God just she says.

1819
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: And when I get dreams like this, and I'm ever

1820
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: in the person's presence, it's.

1821
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 3: My duty to tell them. A month later, yeah, yeah,

1822
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, and when she's telling me to Steven day,

1823
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 3: you see how you looking at me. I'm looking at her.

1824
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 3: Now you know what's going on.

1825
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 2: She said, God told me this last night, and it's

1826
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: funny that I'm sitting here doing this interview, did this

1827
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: interview with you? And I needed to tell you this

1828
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: once she told me that I was at peace because

1829
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm racking my brain.

1830
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, what did I do? Did I say something

1831
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: that I fend somebody? I mean, I just I think

1832
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm doing a great job. She said, be at peace

1833
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, and that's what I told you.

1834
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 12: You did, That's what I told you because the reality

1835
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 12: of the situation is is that you know, I'm not

1836
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 12: gonna apologize. Listen, I got a lot of friends over there,

1837
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 12: all right, we all know that I know a lot

1838
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 12: of people. But that don't mean that what happened to

1839
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 12: you is fair, plain and simple. Okay, that ain't the

1840
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 12: end of the world, Nope, but it is what it is.

1841
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1842
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 12: So you know, to me, it was just important for

1843
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 12: us in this industry to stand up and say, yo,

1844
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 12: he's one of us.

1845
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: He can't get him go out like this, And that

1846
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: was it for me.

1847
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 12: It was like it was just that simple.

1848
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: You go wherever you want.

1849
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 12: You wanna come first, take fine, you wanna go somewhere else, fine,

1850
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 12: Cause I got my crew here first take, and I'm

1851
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 12: not trying to get rid of anybody, you understand saying,

1852
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 12: because I'm not gonna do this forever.

1853
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 3: And when it's when it's my time to cost, my

1854
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 3: time to go right, and it's time for somebody else

1855
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 3: to step up.

1856
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 12: But as long as I'm here, my attitude was gonna be. Listen,

1857
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 12: the people that have been a treasure and attribute to

1858
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 12: this industry are the people that I'm going to do

1859
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 12: all that I can to remind folks this is what

1860
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 12: they do.

1861
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't wanna be one.

1862
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 12: Of those dudes that I got these platforms first take,

1863
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 12: and I got my podcast, and I'm doing the NBA

1864
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 12: Countdown and I got more stuff coming down the line

1865
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 12: and everything like that.

1866
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 11: And all I'm talking about is what I'm doing.

1867
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 3: It's my job to highlight where everybody else is doing.

1868
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Do you you you wanted to few stephen A Cause

1869
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people that have could have

1870
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: opportunities to help somebody, but they want to be the

1871
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: only ninja with money.

1872
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: No, I don't want that. And I told you this,

1873
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 3: and I tell the audience that I told you this.

1874
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 12: I said you might be a first take for one year,

1875
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 12: you might be a first take for years to come.

1876
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 12: It's my responsibility, and I'm dead serious.

1877
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: It's a heart attack. It's my responsibility to make.

1878
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 11: Sure that you are more successful with me than you

1879
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 11: were before you arrived.

1880
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 3: That's what you told me.

1881
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 12: That's my responsibility, and I'm gonna make sure it happens.

1882
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 12: Come Hella, higher water. We ain't going down, brother, we

1883
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 12: only don't you know that.

1884
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: That's just the way it's gonna go. Man coming HBCU

1885
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 3: is the takeover.

1886
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 12: I ain't trying to lose. I'm never about that. Anybody

1887
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 12: that knows me an't about that. I don't mean no

1888
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 12: disrespect to nobody.

1889
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 3: Yah heard it, but out here m hm as good

1890
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 3: as a gifts right here.