1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,199 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: We have so much that we've got to get into. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: As I was saying right before Debra's news two thirty, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Nathan Hakman is going to come on. He's the former 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: federal prosecutor and assistant US Attorney General, among other things. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: And there's a new poll out where Gascone gets only 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: eighteen percent of the vote, and everybody else who's decided 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: is voting against Gascone, and Nathan Hokman does the best, 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: So there's no chance Gascone is going to win that 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: primary outright. And in fact, they matched up Hawkman against 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Gascon in the general election and it was fifty six 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: to eighteen Hawkman over Gascone, fifty six eighteen. Gascone gets 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: no extra support after the primary from anybody any of 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: the other nine candidates. We'll talk with Nathan and Hakman 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: coming up after two thirty. Another story that's been breaking 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: is that in Europe for a MOSS members suspected of 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: plotting terror attacks in Europe have been arrested by German 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: and Dutch authorities, three in Germany, one in the Netherlands. 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: It was going to be a tax on Jewish institutions. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: More details on that, but that is one of the 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: arguments that the Republicans are using in Washington to force 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: the Biden administration to change the border security situation along 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: the southern border with Mexico. 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Among other things. 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: Nobody knows who's coming into the country, and there's millions 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: that have come into the country, and the Republicans are 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: holding up aid to Ukraine and Israel to finance their wars. 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: They won't spend a dollar until the Democrats agree to 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: do something significant on border policy. We're going to talk 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: now Liz Landers ABC News in Washington to tell us 33 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: the latest on the negotiations. 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Liz, Hey, guys, that's right. So we heard some updates 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: just within the last few minutes from Senate Majority Leader 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, who went to the floor and said that 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: he's actually going to have the Senate come back next week, 38 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: which was not expected. These guys love to get out 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: of town for the holidays, go back to their respective states, districts, etc. 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: He said that the Senate is making progress on these discussions, 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: specifically on the border talks, and that aspect of this 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: larger supplemental funding package that will have money for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: and then also the US southern border. So Schumer says 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: that's going well enough that he wants to bring senators 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: back next week. He says that they should expect to 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: take a vote on some kind of supplemental package. What 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: that package looks like right now, nobody is saying. The 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: White House is tight lipped on this. They're letting the 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: Senate take the lead in these negotiations. We know that 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: Chris Murphy, who is a Democrat from Connecticut, he's been 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: kind of leading the Dems in this charge. He said 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: yesterday that it's really helpful to have both the White 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: House and the Department of Homeland Security in the room 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: with them. So the Biden administration has been sending some 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: of their top White House and then DHS officials. The 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Homeland Security Secretary in Majorcis has been going up there 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: to talk with these senators about how they can potentially 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: change laws around immigration policy in the United States. And 59 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: this is such a entrenched issue in American politics, and 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: to really overhaul the immigration system here, Congress has to 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: pass a pretty comprehensive, large package that's probably not what 62 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: they're going to do right now. They would focus on 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: more specific policies. Right now, we've heard discussions of asylum 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: policies being potentially changed. There have also been discussied of 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: just sending more money in general down to the southern 66 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: borders so that CVP and other agencies have more resources. 67 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: But that's sort of a state of play right now 68 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: in Washington. They will be back next week to work 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: on this. 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: Is there any sense of urgency that, regardless of the 71 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: specifics of the negotiations Ukraine Israel, that the border itself, 72 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: something has to be done because there's a lot of 73 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: crazy people who are traveling all over the world potentially 74 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: setting up terrorism situations. 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, things could. 76 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Start exploding here like they were planning in Europe. And 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: I think the FBI director the other day, Christopher Ray, 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: says he sees blinking lights all over the place and 79 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: all since October seventh, the attack in Israel. So aren't 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: they on edge? Aren't they scared a little bit that 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: at any minute something could happen? 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean you've heard that for a number of 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: weeks now, and you're right, those testimonials from the FBI 84 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: director from the Homeland Security Secretary, who has said similar things. 85 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: I think have kind of put the fear of God 86 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: into some of these lawmakers who look at that and think, Okay, well, 87 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: maybe we do need to do something about the southern 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: border because it is all interconnected at this point. I 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: think Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has made the point 90 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: that US national security is tied to success for Israel 91 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: and Ukraine fighting in these respective wars, kind of like 92 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: you mentioned there. So I think that Republicans have been 93 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: emphasizing the urgency here. We've now heard Democratic Majority Leader 94 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer say, if my Republican colleagues think that the 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: border crisis is urgent, then they should want to stay 96 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: in town and work on this through the next week. 97 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: So he's kind of using that as a little political 98 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: bargaining chit, if you will. So, yes, I think that 99 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 3: there is some sense of urgency for them to get 100 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: something done, which is why the Senate is going to 101 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: stay in session. So I would add that the House 102 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: has recess now for the holidays. They took their last 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: vote earlier this morning on the National Defense Authorization Act. 104 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: It was an eight hundred billion dollar piece of legislation 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: that probably a few people will talk about, even though 106 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: it is in an enormous sum of money that has 107 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: been designated to our national security and our defense systems. 108 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: And then they got out of town. So if the 109 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: Senate was able to get something together next week, the 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: House would have to be called back into session. Speaker 111 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: Mike Johnson could absolutely do that, but they might have 112 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: some trouble wrangling four hundred plus members to get back 113 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: to DC in time. 114 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: This is like no way to run a country. Boy. 115 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: Well, Liz, thanks very much, thanks for all the reports. 116 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: Of course, thanks guys. 117 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: Liz Landers, ABC News. I'm really flabbergaston. You know you 118 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: read about I'll refer to this story again here. This 119 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: is the CNN version. Four alleged HAMAS members suspected of 120 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: plotting terror attacks have been arrested by German and Dutch authorities. 121 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Three people arrested in Germany, one in the Netherlands. There 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: are planning attacks on Jewish institutions. HAMAS is recognized by 123 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: everyone as a major terrorist organization. Two were Lebanese nationals, 124 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: one was an Egyptian and the prosecutor it is a 125 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: German prosecutor mentioned the first names of the individuals arrested, 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: but they have privacy laws in Germany, so he's not reporting. 127 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: The last names. Can you believe this? 128 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Terrorists have privacy protections in Germany. 129 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: So we can't know who they are. How nuts is that? 130 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: Now? 131 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: If they found four people in Germany and the Netherlands, 132 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Hamas must have sent these terrorist cells all over the world, 133 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: certainly here. I mean, we're the main financier of the 134 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Israeli response. 135 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: I just. 136 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: We've had three million people come over the border. We 137 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: don't know who any of these people are. Three million, 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: there's gotta be terrorists there. And the FBI director says, yeah, 139 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll blinking lights everywhere, and the House is 140 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: on vacation, and the Senate has been negotiating for days 141 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: and days and days and days. It's like, just just 142 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: do it. Just close the border for a while. Really, 143 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: we're not gonna lose anything. Nothing bad's gonna happen if 144 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: we shut down the border, and they could do it 145 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: if they want to. 146 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: Good lord, what a stupid country. 147 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: And let me guess, you know, we're gonna have some 148 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: terrible explosion, A couple of hundred people are gonna die, 149 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: and then everybody's gonna be singing amazing grace and holding 150 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: candlelight vigils and praying. It's like, no, skip all that. 151 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Do your job now, seal the border and start to 152 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: reporting the people who came here illegally. I mean, there 153 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: are certain countries right now where we should be taking 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: nobody in nobody. 155 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom was interviewed on Fox eleven by Alex Michaelson 157 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: about the massive budget deficit and also about him canceling 158 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: the tree lighting ceremony because of he was fearing protests 159 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: against Israeli war. So so everybody loses Christmas in Sacramento. 160 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: There was no tree lighting ceremony. Instead of instead of 161 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: securing the area, he just pulled the plot. 162 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: So we'll listen to those clips. 163 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: After two thirty, Nathan Hakman, who did well in a 164 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: poll about the race against Gascone to replace him as DA. 165 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff coming up. I'm the John Cobelt Show. 166 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 167 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: six forty. 168 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: After two thirty, Like I said, we're gonna talk to 169 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: Nathan Hackman, who did well in this poll of almost 170 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: two thousand likely voters in La County, who do you 171 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: want to be in the next La County DA Eighteen percent, 172 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: said George Gascone. Twelve percent sat Hakman. But there are 173 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: nine candidates running against Gascon, so Gascone only has eighteen percent, 174 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,119 Speaker 2: so he's there have to be a runoff of November. 175 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: And in the runoff, if you assume Hawkman would get 176 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: at least the number two position, Hawkman would win fifty 177 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: six to eighteen over Gascon. Now I assume a number 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: of other challengers would win as well if they can 179 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: get into the top two. But at the moment, it's 180 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: the Remington Research Group, it's their poll, and we'll talk 181 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: to Nathan Hakman coming up at two thirty. If you 182 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: remember a few days ago, our weasel governor Hair Jail, 183 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: he pulled the plug on the Christmas tree lighting in 184 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Sacramento because it was easier to do that than to 185 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: secure the area. He was afraid of protests from Hamas supporters. 186 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: I guess there's a significant number of people in favor 187 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: of the Jewish genocide and they cheer for Hamas, and 188 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: he didn't want that at the Christmas tree lighting, so 189 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: nobody got to celebrate Christmas that day in Sacramento. Because 190 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: that's a good show of strength, isn't it. That's what 191 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: you want, a leader who backs down, immediately folds up 192 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: and goes home and lets the protesters have their way. 193 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: So we got a couple of clips of newsom we'll 194 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: play clip number one about the well actually this is 195 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: clip number two about the Christmas tree with Alex Michaelson fix. 196 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 6: So also was a pretty unfortunate situation. You're supposed to 197 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 6: light the Capitol Christmas tree and it had to be 198 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 6: canceled because of protest. 199 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: Do it virtually instead? 200 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 6: What does that say about the state of where we're at? 201 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: And that was hard. 202 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 6: I mean, we always look for to that, the kids 203 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: look for that. We have a lot of children that 204 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 6: show up at that. And and something people may not 205 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 6: know about our Christmas tree lighting, it's people with developmental disabilities, 206 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 6: so vulnerable communities, and and we just couldn't risk what 207 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: was being promoted as a die in or sit in 208 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 6: or some protest to shut down Christmas. So that was unfortunate. 209 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 6: And it is the nature of the moment we're living in. 210 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 6: And look I experienced at firsthand visiting Israel, seeing the 211 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 6: images the atrocities, because it's about loss firsthand, seen quite 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 6: literally a video of someone being decapitated, not after they 213 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 6: were decapitated, watching the decapitation in real. 214 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: Time, in real time at the same. 215 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 6: Time, I am a parent and I watched children suffering 216 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: and dying and gossip. 217 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Christmas Tree people. 218 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 6: So the whole thing is is devastating and difficult. The 219 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 6: anti Semitism, this is rank open anti semitism. 220 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: So it's so so you gave it so vile at 221 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: the same time, so it followed it. 222 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 6: It's a very difficult moment. 223 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: Our historyically see the difficult moment. 224 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 6: I'm sure we'll have a long conversation about that, either 225 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: in private or during our subsequent meeting. But I'm just 226 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: praying that we get this thing behind us and Hamas 227 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: is eliminated, both for Israel but also the Palestinian people themselves. 228 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 6: So whenever I think it's time for a Cea spire, 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: I'm going to leave that. I wish it was that simple. 230 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 6: I want this war to end. I want innocent lives 231 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 6: not to be lost. I want Hamas eliminated, I want 232 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 6: the hostages home. I want two state solution, two secure 233 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: states I want the Palestinian people to live free, but 234 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: Hamas must be eliminated. You're speaking with the president here 235 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 6: in life. 236 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 7: But. 237 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: He wants to eliminate Hamas. Imagine him as president. He 238 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: wants to eliminate Hamas. But he won't even stick around 239 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: to flip the switch on the Christmas tree lights. I 240 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: have no idea why they couldn't secure that area from 241 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters. I have no idea why. Of course they could. 242 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: But he disappoints all the kids. He talks about all 243 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: the vulnerable children, the disabled children, whatever euphemism of the 244 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: day he was using there. 245 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,119 Speaker 1: But in the end he collapsed. 246 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: He didn't come out and say, look, we're gonna enjoy 247 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: our lives here. We're not gonna let oh one hundred 248 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: and two hundred wackos with their fake blood and screaming 249 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: their stupid slogans having their die in the die in Hey, hey, guys, 250 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: let's go all fall on the ground and wave our 251 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: arms in the air and then die. 252 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that'll stop the war. Good work you 253 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: give into that crowd. 254 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: I can't stand weak people like him, because that's what gives. 255 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Power to these protest groups. 256 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Because when the protest groups, like any enemy, any bad guy, 257 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: they smell weakness, they get more bold, they do more 258 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: of it. Hey, they can show down everything right. In fact, 259 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: you they might we might be able to light a 260 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: Christmas tree anywhere for the next ten years if the 261 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: guys like nusseimberre in power, because they'll always give in. 262 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: And then they'll say, well, safety concerns, safety concerns, Why 263 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: don't you force the law arrest these people, put them 264 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: away for about a year. There's plenty of laws these 265 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: people are breaking, like the crowd that shut down the 266 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: one ten freeway yesterday. Huh, why don't you put those 267 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: guys away for a year. I'm sure there's all kinds 268 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: of stuff on the books that you could you could 269 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: trump up. 270 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: Do it. 271 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Put them away, lock them up, and you'll see these 272 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: You'll see this crowd go away because they don't want 273 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: to spend a year in prison. Put them in a 274 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: maximum security prison too, put them on the death row. 275 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Let them live with the serial killers for a year. 276 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: They won't be shutting down anymore a freeways. You just 277 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: have to be tough enough. And there's plenty of laws 278 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: broken yesterday, multiple counts now here's another clip with hair 279 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: Gel Alex Michaelson asking about that sixty eight billion dollar 280 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: deficit that California is facing. We went from one hundred 281 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: billion dollar surplus to a sixty eight billion deficit in 282 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: two years. 283 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: Let's see what this has meant. 284 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 6: What kind of budget deficit are we looking at? And 285 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: what we smaller than it's been advertised. But I've been 286 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 6: advertising this, I mean, anyone has been paying attention to 287 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 6: me and. 288 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: All my vetos. 289 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 6: We've known this, and we've known this since we had 290 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 6: those crazy surpluses. Remember last two out of three years, 291 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: we had one hundred and seventy seven point seven billion 292 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: dollar surplus. That's why we gave eighteen point five billion dollars, 293 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: largest tax rebate in US history. We just finished sending 294 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 6: close to twenty billion dollars back to the taxpayers because 295 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 6: of this wash of what happened. 296 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Pandemic no sense, The. 297 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 6: Surplus made no sense, the deficits made no sense last year. 298 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 6: And then the biggest challenge was the delay and tax receipts, 299 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: and we made that point to the irs. We were 300 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 6: actually arguing against some of those subsequent extensions because we 301 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 6: went into the budget last year blind and I made 302 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 6: that point legislature and others, and that's why so many 303 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 6: of the vetos, and that's why we prepared for this. 304 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 6: And you'll see the architecture around this in January. 305 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Well, okay, you say it's not as big as we advertise, 306 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: what is it? 307 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 6: Then well i'll tell you in January tact, then we're 308 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 6: gonna do it. This was I just think this is 309 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 6: really important. Highest reserves in history, more one time spending 310 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: intentionally than any other budgets we've ever done. So we 311 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: can call that back a little bit the one time 312 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 6: or extended out a year or two. So difficult choices, 313 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: but nothing like the old days because we never had 314 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 6: the reserves in the last few recessions that we have now, 315 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 6: and we didn't have the financial management that we do now. 316 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: It's a big number. 317 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: But it's a different number in the context of how 318 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: shut Up managed shut Up one hundred billion dollars short 319 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: plus to a sixty eight billion dollar deficit. And he's 320 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: bragging about his financial management. You know what, he didn't 321 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: mention that in the five years he's been governor, spending 322 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: is increased by fifty percent. It was a two hundred 323 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: billion dollar budget. Now it's more than three hundred billion. 324 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: He increased spending over fifty percent permanent spending every year. 325 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: Every year they're spending an extra hundred billion dollars compared 326 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: to what they were spending back in twenty eighteen. Right, 327 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: that was Jerry Brown's last full year twenty eighteen. We're 328 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: at a two hundred billion dollar budget. Now it's three 329 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: hundred billion, and he's bragging about financial management, and he's 330 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: bragging about all the vetos and all the get out 331 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: of here. 332 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: He is sufferable shoes all more coming up. Oh, we 333 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: come back. 334 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: We're can talk with Nathan Hofckman, who came out the 335 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: best in a poll against George Gascon to run for 336 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: La County District Attorney. 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We have a new polling 347 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: from the Remington Research Group, almost two thousand likely voters, 348 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: who do you want to be the next LA County 349 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 2: District Attorney the elections in March? And don't be alarmed 350 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: when I tell you this. The top vote getterer for 351 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: the March primary is Gascone at eighteen percent, but that's 352 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: because he has nine candidates splitting up the rest and 353 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: he's not going to get fifty percent, so he has 354 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: to go to a runoff. Second place right now is 355 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: Nathan Hackman twelve percent. He's the top challenger John Tommy 356 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: at eight percent, and then the list goes on from 357 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: there in single digits. The key here is they pick 358 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: Gascon in hawk and said, okay, if those two finish 359 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: as the top two choices in the primary, who do 360 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: you want in a general election? Fifty six percent for Hawkman, 361 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: eighteen percent for Gascon, twenty six percent undecided. Even if 362 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 2: Gascon gets all the undecided voters, he'd still lose by 363 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: double judges. And what's interesting is Gascone gets eighteen percent 364 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: in the primary and eighteen percent in the general election, 365 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: so he doesn't get a single vote from any of 366 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: his challengers. Nobody jumps into the gascon camp eighteen percent. 367 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: That's his hard ceiling. Unusual. You don't run into that 368 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: very often. Let's get Nathan Hakman on since he was 369 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: the best of the challengers according to this ball. Nathan, welcome, 370 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for inviting me, John, and I should say, by 371 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: way of introduction for people unfamiliar, you are former federal 372 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: prosecutor or assistant US Attorney General. You're the president of 373 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: the La City Ethics Commission. You've run for office before, 374 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: so you've got a well known name, which obviously helps 375 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: you in this primary run. 376 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 4: Certainly that that that helps, the fact that Steve Cooley, 377 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 4: the former three term LA DA has endorsed me as 378 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 4: long as well as five L A U. S attorneys, 379 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: and the fact that we've you know, been able to 380 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: raise money. We were actually at one point one million dollars, 381 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: which sets a record for a DA's race, with over 382 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: twelve hundred donors across the whole political divide and geographic 383 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 4: divide to LA County. 384 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: I guess the campaign is going to become much more 385 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: public after the first of the year, when people are 386 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: paying attention. I imagine you've got much more, much bigger 387 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: media presence, commercials for radio television. 388 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: Is that a good guess? 389 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, I think you know. Part of the 390 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 4: part of the focus of any race is to figure 391 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: out when the voters are most paying attention, and that's 392 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: when you will go ahead and activate the funds that 393 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: you've raised. Part of the advantage about raising every their 394 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: challenger by at least double is that I'll be able 395 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: to get the word out on TV, radio, social media 396 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: and hopefully your station with social media and print mail 397 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 4: to let them know that I'm running and what I 398 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: stand for. And it's basically the opposite in many respects 399 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: of what George Gascon stands for. He's a DA that 400 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: has enacted the most pro criminal policies in La County history. 401 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: As a DA, I'm basically someone who who puts victims 402 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: in the public first rather than the interests of criminals. 403 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: He has absolutely demoralized his staff, the assistant das, and 404 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: he's demoted anybody who contradicted him. He's been sued by 405 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: many of them. What are you going to do to 406 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: get everybody back on the same team, to restore the 407 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: camaraderie and just restore the morale of the entire staff, 408 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: because it's been devastated. 409 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: Well, the way you restore morale, in large part is 410 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: that you trust the people below us are below you. 411 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: When Gascon gets into power in December of twenty twenty, 412 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: he issues nine blanket policies that basically told the over 413 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: eight hundred deputy district attorneys, the prosecutors in court every day, 414 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: that they cannot go ahead and do their job effectively. 415 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: That they couldn't bring gun and gang enhancements of the 416 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: evidence called for it, That they couldn't try certain juveniles 417 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: who committed you know, huge murder mass murders as adults. 418 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: That they couldn't prosecute certain misdemeanors even though the evidence 419 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: called for it. What I would do immediately is restore 420 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: that trust. Tell the eight hundred plus deputy district attorneys that, look, 421 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 4: you represent thousands of years of collective prosecutorial experience and wisdom, 422 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: and I'm ready to trust that wisdom. We're going to 423 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: lead you, but we're going to let you do your 424 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: job and follow the evidence and follow the law where 425 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: it will. That same message then goes out to law enforcement. 426 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: My brother and I are the co founders of the 427 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: LA Sheriff's Foundation. We've talked to deputy sheriffs and police 428 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: all over this county who you are right, are completely 429 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: demoralized because they bring these very good cases to the 430 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: DA's office only to have Gascon's blanket policies basically negate them. 431 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: So I bring that same sort of partnership to law 432 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: enforcement and say, look, folks, I got your back that 433 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm someone who will actually, if you do your job 434 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: and you bring the evidence and two in the in 435 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: the investigation to the DA's office, will apply to law. 436 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: And if it's a righteous case, we're bringing that righteous case. 437 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: We're going to take politics and a political ideology out 438 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: of the mix and bring back independence, evidence and law, 439 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: which sounds like something that you know you would expect 440 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: the DA to do, But we have now spent three 441 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: years going away from that, and I would bring it 442 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 4: back on day one. 443 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: How much of the gas going revolution are you going 444 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: to roll back? If you if you got into. 445 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: Office, you roll back a good the whole political ideology part, 446 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: you'd roll that back almost one hundred percent. In other words, 447 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: to the extent that Gascon has enacted blanket policies that 448 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 4: routinely favor criminals over victims. Another example, he has banned 449 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: all prosecutors from going with victims to parole hearings of 450 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: their victimizers. So, in other words, if a rape victim 451 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: wants to go to a parole hearing of someone who 452 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: raped them and is now seeking to get out of 453 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 4: their jail term early in the old days, the DA 454 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 4: would accompany the prosecutor, would accompany the victim to explain 455 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: the case to the parole board. Gascon has forbidden that. 456 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: I would bring that back on day one and again 457 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: show people in a tangible way that the DA's office 458 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: is about the public protecting the public. It's about protecting victims, 459 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: and we will absolutely ensure every defendant has one hundred 460 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: percent due process, but we will apply the law, we 461 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: will apply the evidence, and put the true public safety 462 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: threats in jail. 463 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: There supposedly is fourteen thousand cases on prosecuted, which is 464 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: which is hard to believe. Is that possible? And if 465 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: that's anywhere close to true? What are you going to 466 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: do about all that if you take. 467 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: Over, Well, there are two things that are true. One, 468 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: you have a huge backload of cases that are unprosecuted. 469 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: And again these are cases with real victims and them 470 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: that are just waiting for the justice to occur. Plus, 471 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 4: you have a huge deficit of hiring in the DA's 472 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: office because no one quite candidly wants to work for 473 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: George Gascon and basically get into a job where immediately 474 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 4: you're going to be handcuffed from actually doing the job. 475 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: So as soon as people, and I'm talking talented lawyers, 476 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 4: I understand that the lada's office is open for business 477 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: to get that, we are going to basically reward and 478 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 4: accelerate and promote people who want to do their job effectively. 479 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: You'll bring back the prosecutors. You'll bring back the additional 480 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: one hundred or so prosecutors that are currently funded in 481 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: positions that are for which there are vacancies, and then 482 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: you'll then be able to tackle the huge backload of 483 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: cases that having fewer prosecutors there has created. So while 484 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: it won't be done overnight, you will absolutely be able 485 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: to go and tip away that entire number, so that 486 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: number will become zero, certainly within the first year or 487 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: two in which I would be in office. 488 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: The next door app is a daily list of local 489 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: burglaries and all kinds of quality of life crimes that 490 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: everybody posts and the running joke in the comments that 491 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: I see every day is well, i'd call the police, 492 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: but what's the point gas Going is not going to 493 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: prosecute or gas Going is going to let the guy go. 494 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: And almost every day those are the comments I see. 495 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: You know, the public is demoralized too, and that's going 496 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: to be a challenge as well to believe that, you know, 497 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: finally now things are going to change, It'll. 498 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 4: Be a huge challenge. I mean, those are the three 499 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: interest groups that a DA has to basically restore confidence about. 500 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 4: On day one, you've got his own office, the eight 501 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: hundred and so prosecutors, and by the way, ninety seven 502 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: point eight percent of them voted to support George Gascon's recall, 503 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 4: which was shocking. Second is the law enforcement. You've got 504 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: to re establish that partnership so that law enforcement knows 505 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: that if they work hard, the DA's office will in 506 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: turn do its job, and then the public, because it's 507 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 4: incredibly dangerous for the public to believe that the law 508 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: enforcement system is no longer working. That's a situation where 509 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: very often people will take justice in their own hands 510 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: because they don't believe that law enforcement or the DA's 511 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: office will bring justice and that's something we obviously have 512 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: to prevent, but we have to prevent it by having 513 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: the DA and the DA's office do its job again. 514 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: All right, Eric, we'll talk again after New Year's because 515 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: we're going to cover this story the first two three 516 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: months of the year more than any other. It's the 517 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: most important thing going on law, I think, as far 518 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: as elections are concerned. So good luck, and uh, we'll 519 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: talk again in January. 520 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, and happy holiday, Sean. 521 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: You too. 522 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Nathan Hackman, he is the former federal prosecutor, assistant US 523 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: Attorney General and the leading challenger to Tacon George Gascone. 524 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: And again I got I gotta insist here so that 525 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: no one's misled. Hawkman gascnes of eighteen percent, Hawkman twelve, 526 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: John and Tommy eight percent, everyone else six six, three 527 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: one one. Uh, there's probably forty percent undecided. I'm just 528 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: doing this off the top of my head here, Yeah, 529 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: probably forty percent, forty five percent undecided. So while Hakman 530 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: has a four point lead for second place, it's by 531 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: no means an overwhelming advantage. There's going to be quite 532 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: a spirited campaign. Tommy is doing well at eight percent, 533 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: and I think The big story in this is just 534 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: to use Nathan Hockman's name as a placeholder. If he 535 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: and Gascone were in the top two, Hackman would win 536 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: fifty six to eighteen in the general election, and I 537 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: suspect that most of the rest of these challengers would 538 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: win by a huge margin as well. So these poll 539 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: numbers are absolutely devastating to Gascon. I don't think he 540 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: has a hope. You know, he could survive the primary, 541 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: but he's going to get destroyed in November. Now, who's 542 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: going to destroy him? Well, that's what we got the 543 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: next three months to find out. All right, Oh, running 544 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: behind John co Belts showed you're. 545 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: Listening to John cobelt on demand from KFI AM six forty. 546 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: David Goldstein, We are going to play at three o'clock 547 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: the tribute with the channels two and nine. 548 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: KKEL News did David. 549 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: He's retiring after thirty four years as the premier investigative 550 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: reporter in Los Angeles, probably the premiere investigative reporter in 551 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: any city at any time in history. 552 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely the best. 553 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: And we had him on many, many times to promote 554 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: and play his stories and analyze how he did. 555 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: It, and. 556 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: Just a great career, and he's one of the very 557 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: few guys who does this kind of work. And we're 558 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: going to have David on next hour. First thing, though, 559 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: we're going to play the tribute retrospective of his career 560 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: that ran on television yesterday. I have an animal story, 561 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: really not a normal animal story, not like. 562 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 9: A one that Ken normally would No. 563 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: No, this is not about animals in peril some or 564 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: animals in distress. What this is a little more philosophical. 565 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: The Oxford University Press has published a paper on giving 566 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: voting rights to animals. Should animals have the right to vote? 567 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 9: How's an animal going to vote? 568 00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: Well? 569 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: The proposal according to this and his name is ion 570 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: Radu Motoraca, and he says one way to do this 571 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: would to be have human representatives cast votes on behalf 572 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: of the animals. 573 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 8: But how are we going to know what our animals 574 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 8: want to vote on? I mean, I'd love it if 575 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 8: my dogs could talk, but. 576 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 9: Unfortunately they don't. 577 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: You have a bond with your we do. 578 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 9: I know certain things, but I wouldn't know what. I 579 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 9: wouldn't know that you could look into their eyes. 580 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 8: I mean, I guess I could say, do you want 581 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: gascon or do you want Tommy, who do you want? 582 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is this would be all animals, monkeys, parrots, 583 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: anything you'd find in the Amazon rainforest would have a 584 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: say in the adoption or rejection of laws impacting their environment. 585 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: So if there was some big policy change on the 586 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Amazon forest, you'd call all the animals out. 587 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 8: And I, as I love animals, but this is ridiculous. 588 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: Now you're often upset by the way pigs and cows 589 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: and chickens are treated right on animal farms, Well, they 590 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: would have a say on laws related to their environment 591 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: as well. 592 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 8: But again, how are they going to have to It's 593 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 8: going to be the humans. They're going to have to say, right, 594 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 8: And so what if the humans right there are humans? 595 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 8: They didn't like the laws we were trying to get 596 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 8: so that the chickens weren't smushed in the cages and 597 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 8: the pigs had rooms. 598 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: See, that's why there's a flaw on this, because the 599 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: guy who owns the pigs or cows is also the 600 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: guy who's executing the pigs and cows. 601 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. So that okay, hogwash. 602 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Very good. It says here. 603 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: Candidates in an election might propose laws offering a mandatory 604 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: minimum food quantity for certain categories of animals. A candidate 605 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: could promise shelter to various species, and the animals vote 606 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: would go to these candidates. It has more animal friendly 607 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: proposals as part of their platform, but again you'd have 608 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: to run through all this the humans. Now, Now, if 609 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: somebody has, like I don't know, a thousand head of 610 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: cattle on their farm, do they get a thousand votes? 611 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 612 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 8: This is this is slot you need to have a 613 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: You need to have me right, I can be the 614 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 8: spokesperson for the animals and I will do the voting 615 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 8: for them because I know what's best for them. 616 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: Do you know there's something called the animal kill clock online? 617 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: No's It tracks how many animals are slaughtered every year 618 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: and turned into food. 619 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: There I get. I look it up online. 620 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: I just noticed this at the end of the story, 621 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: the animal kill clock in the United States. There's billions 622 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 2: and billions of animal slaughtered and somebody is counting. 623 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you wonder why I'm a vegan. 624 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I do. 625 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 7: I know. 626 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 9: Go look at that clock. 627 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 7: We're at fifty two billion, eight hundred and one forty 628 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 7: four thousand, forty eight thousand. Oh, it's up to fifty 629 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 7: one thousand. It's just continuing to. 630 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: It's three thousand while you were talking. 631 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, right, eight hundred and fifty six sixty two, three 632 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 7: hundred seventy two sixty eight hundred eighty eight. 633 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 8: Okay, we get the point. Eric, Yeah, I'm just saying, 634 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 8: let's stop that and let's have somebody like me be 635 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 8: the voice of the animals. I would vote and they 636 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 8: would like my vote. 637 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, you've got two votes for your two dogs. We've 638 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: got David Goldsteer. 639 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: We're gonna play he's gonna be on the air with us, 640 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: and we're also gonna play the k CAL News tribute 641 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: to David Goldstein's Square because he's retiring and one of 642 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: our favorite reporters. 643 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: That's next. 644 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 645 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 646 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 647 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.