1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt we have an official injury 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: report here from so practicing today? Can he Pickett? Miles 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Jack didn't practice. He had a personal issue to take 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: care of. No injury designation for him. Trenton Thompson limited 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: participant today all week long. He is questionable. Najee Harris 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Back is a full participant. Maga Fitzpatrick limited again today 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: he is questionable there, and Landon Roberts limited again today. 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: He is questionable. Everybody else good to. 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: Go good, you'll take that. I mean, there's some promise there. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: It sounds like with Roberts and Minka the other one's 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: nothing really seems particularly serious. And if you have to 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: live without Trenton Thompson, you live without Trenton Thompson, you know. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you got one Patrick Peterson back there. And again, 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't expect the Ravens to come out and throw 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the ball that game. 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't think they're gonna be taste 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: testing the safeties deep time. And then again either I 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: don't know what their receiver past catcher situation will be. Like, 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: you're not gonna rest likely Beckham, Bateman and Flowers, but 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: they might not play a lot. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Flowers is banged up, was up in age and quite frankly, 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean he's very important. I mean I would expect 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: to see Bateman out there. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's more like agal or Bateman and 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: had the punt return. 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: You might also see Malik Cunningham out there. 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: Is there news on that? 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Well? John Harbo was asked about that earlier in the week. 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's interesting. 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that. You know, he's asked, well, might 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: we see Malie Cunningham at quarterback? He said, you could 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: see that, Okay, he said, but we've also been working 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: him a Summit wide receiver, so you could see that 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: as well. 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Okay. It's a perfect game for them who plucked him 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: off the Patriots practice squad from what I remember, and 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: now has to be part of the team. Get him 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: on the field. I don't know, it seems like a 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: perfect opportunity to do that. It'll be something going for 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: him in the playoff. 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Almost seems to me like Harbaugh the way just kind 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: of reading between the lines with that that he's going 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: to treat this kind of like a preseason game. 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: I don't it made it. 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: He made it sound like all three quarterbacks could play, okay, 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: and the cuttingham also could play some wide receiver. 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: Okay. See I kind of thought all along, why play 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Huntley sixty minutes? Yeah, I mean, like they know exactly 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: what he is and he's fine, but he doesn't have 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: to play the whole time to prove that. But it 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: is good opportunity for him to get reroll, you know, 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: live reps and all that. I would think cutting him 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: takes some snaps. I'm not even sure Josh Johnson needs 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: to take a whole lot, you know. But no, I mean, 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: you know what he is, being around the block and 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: around the block and around the block. 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: It's been around yeah, twenty hours, right. Yeah, So that's 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: the situation for the Steelers. On the other side of things, 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: we'll get a little more clarity here when the Ravens 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: release their injury report later. 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Today as well. I would imagine that happens. Remember these 63 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: two hours around there. 64 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are the final injury reports. 65 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so to traveling tomorrow forty eight hours away. No, 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: it's pretty psych for it. Yeah, that's great, And. 67 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: So we'll be looking at either the Steelers' final game 68 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty three NFLC I thought about that 69 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: today as I was looking in practice. I'm like, this 70 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: could be the last practice. 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Of the year, could be could be the last one, 72 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: maybe much more, who knows, watch a lot of practice, 73 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: you know, over the course of the season, starting you 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: OTAs and moving on. 75 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: So you spent half the year basically watching practice. 76 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure the last one, and you're looking at 77 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: like this could be the last one, and they would. 78 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Be the last one I see for three or four months, you. 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: Know, until we get after it again a mini camp 80 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: probably with the drive sitting there. Yeah. 81 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is is that you see 82 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: so much practice, uh and if you pay it, if 83 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: you actually pay attention, Like I like to walk around 84 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: and look at the different groupings, especially when you're like 85 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: training camp settings and OTA sessions things like that, just 86 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: to hear what the coaches are instructing these guys. 87 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: And so I think the individual drills are really telling 88 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: if you're if you can get close. 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: So you know, my my oldest son was was playing 90 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: football when he was younger. They asked me, hey, you 91 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: know one of the coaches quit, and hey, you want 92 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to you want to step in here and do this. 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was a basketball and baseball player. I 94 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: play football. 95 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you coach baseball now still, But they're. 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Like, well, can you do it? I'm like, okay, I'm 97 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: like I've seen. 98 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: I've been to a lot of NFL practice. 99 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: I've seen years and years worth of NFL. I know 100 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: what they're teaching with hand placement and things. I mean, 101 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: if you're smart enough, you can pick these things up. Yeah, yeah, 102 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: I can take even I can pick them. 103 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: I can. 104 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to be that smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 105 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: so you just picked these things up and and and 106 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, teaching line splits and things of that nature, 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: like okay, here's what we want to do, guys. 108 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: Just coaching is coaching coaching coaching. Yeah, and obviously it'd 109 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: be an interesting you know, to look at through your eyes. 110 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: You've watched so much NFL practices, and then any level 111 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: is not going to look the same. No, not the 112 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: other way around. 113 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, I'm teaching they like the I 114 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: was I remember teaching like the young defensive lineman. It's like, okay, 115 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: here's a new good rip move and come up underneath 116 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: and you. 117 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: Start, Yeah, you're not going to be Cam Hayward with 118 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: his lockout or. 119 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, grab this wrist here and then swim through 120 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: that ghost move that. 121 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: What does you know? Why could I? Can't you do that? Boy? 122 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: Let's go Now that's an interesting perspective though, But I 123 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: mean watch so much that you're wrapping up her potentially. 124 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: And this is the these are the pros, like they 125 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: do this. It's like I would always tell kids, pros. 126 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Professionals, this is their job. Yeah. 127 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I can remember when I when I first got into 128 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: baseball coaching and everybody's you know, you can't have the 129 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: kids hit off a tee. That's baby stuff. 130 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, I would think that if you cover. 131 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: I cover, you know, I've covered Major League baseball games, 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: and when you go into you know, as you're walking 133 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: through in the locker you'll see in the outside the 134 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: locker room, they're out there hitting the ball off the tee. 135 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: Really yeah, I would have thought, just like any other 136 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: fan when you said, boy, they got my son hitting 137 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: off a tee, what is this coach doing? I assume 138 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: it just gets your feet better and you know, level. 139 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: Your swinging hit the ball. You know where you want 140 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: to hit it you want, you can time, you know. 141 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little more control, things like that, and it just. 142 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: It's all muscle memory. Same thing with football, it's all 143 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: muscle memory. 144 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: I guess it's like a golf ball hitting off t too. Yeah, 145 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, like why wouldn't you? 146 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, So at this point in the season, 147 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: we're seeing these guys who have been doing this for 148 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: months at a time and then muscle memory is there. 149 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of them are holding I mean across 150 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: the league, some of them are holding on for your life, 151 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Like I can't believe I've been doing this this many months, 152 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: especially some of these rookies, you know, like totally off topic, 153 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: but just like watching the Eagles d line like Jordan 154 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: Davis and Jalen Carter are like, I've never played as 155 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: many snaps in my life. I'm falling apart, you know, 156 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: where others are getting better and better. 157 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the that's the key, I think, And 158 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I think the key to it is is continuing to 159 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: work on your craft. 160 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: I thought. 161 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Tarrell Austin said something. We played this back yesterday at 162 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: the end of the show. It was interesting, he said. 163 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: He was asked about Joey Porter do you think you 164 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: know that? You said he had some things to work on. 165 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, what are those things he's Look, I'm not 166 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: going to talk about what those things are. Let's just 167 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: say he's in a good spot right now and we 168 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: can we expect him to continue to get better. And 169 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: he said, what makes you think he's going to get better? 170 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: He says, Look, if you're not getting better in this league, 171 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: you're getting worse. 172 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't just stay still because it's 173 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: too competitive. And of course he's not gonna be like, well, 174 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: Joey always bites on this double move or a slant 175 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: and go kills him. You know, like not going to 176 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: say that, you know, I mean he knows what he needs. 177 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's off he can't get his hands he 178 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: as he does and. 179 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Tendencies that he knows that others don't. Or boy he's 180 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: a little you know, high in his pedal or whatever. 181 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: You know. 182 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: That's what was funny after the game on Saturday, talking 183 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: to Joey after the game, and I said, look like 184 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: he not only holds you held you the time that 185 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: they called them talking about DK Metcalf. Look that it 186 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't look like he just held you on the time 187 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: that they called the holding penalty on the one long 188 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: play that got called back. So look like he might 189 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: have held you pretty well on the touch the first 190 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: touchdown that Seattle. Oh yeah, he had his arms wrapped 191 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: around the outside of it. And he goes, yeah, he 192 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: likes to hold, he says. I'm just glad I didn't 193 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: get a holding penalty called on me today. 194 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: They didn't call many holding penalties in general, asked TJ. 195 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Watt about that. 196 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you learn those things and you get better 197 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: at it, and you know, sometimes there's a trial by 198 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: fire as well for some of these young guys the official. 199 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: State looking for stuff. Yeah. I was in terms of 200 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: that as well. What can I get away with? Yeah, 201 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: I think after you build a reputation, you get away 202 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: with a little bit more. Of course, the rookies have 203 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: a little bit harder, of course, and especially with the 204 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: test like he gets. I mean, he plays the top 205 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: dudes all the time. 206 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing about Like again, I was looking 207 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: up his stats for the season last night. He's doing 208 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: this against the best that the other team's best receiver. 209 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: Now this week against the Ravens, I think they just 210 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: played sides. 211 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: I would think you just simplify it. And yeah, I 212 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: was thinking the. 213 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Same because you don't know who's going to be out there. 214 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: Even their full strength. I don't know if he'd follow Flowers. 215 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: He moves around a lot to the different style, and 216 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: he's not clearly the one. I mean, he's the best guy, 217 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: but it's not like Metcalf or you know, Demante Adams. 218 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just different. 219 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: Uh, you know. 220 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: But let's say, for example, the Steelers would play the 221 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in the first round of the playoffs. He 222 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: getting digs? 223 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I mean I assume he would get Tyreek. Yeah, 224 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: I definitely get a mari you know. I mean, I'm 225 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: just trying to think of some of the playoff teams 226 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: in the AFC mims, you know. I mean, that's that's 227 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: who he is now. 228 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I know Patrick Peterson did some of 229 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: that his rookie season. I don't remember. 230 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: Remember. 231 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember too many rookie cornerbacks being. 232 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: Asked to be being to follow. No, like even Sauce didn't. 233 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I think certain did. He may have, yeah, and a 234 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: lot of them. It's as the season goes on, and 235 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: Joey didn't do it. From the first step he ever took. 236 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: But it was pretty early. I mean when he became 237 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: a starter that insided. You know, yeah, right, so that's 238 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: been a massive success story. 239 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, You now have shown to me, here's even 240 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: if the Steelers don't get into the playoffs this year. 241 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I look at this season in many ways as being 242 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: a success in terms of that kind of stuff. 243 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: I agree. 244 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, you found out Proderck Jones looks like a 245 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: cornerstone for your offensive line for the next decade. 246 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's a keeper. He's a keeper. 247 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior looks like he's going to be a 248 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: shut down, lockdown cornerback for the next decade. 249 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: And those are two the hardest position to find in 250 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: the league. 251 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Without that, and two of the most expensive. 252 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Exactly, you don't want to be shopping on the open 253 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: market for him. 254 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: You look like he got it. Looks like he got 255 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,359 Speaker 1: a stud defensive tackle in a spot. 256 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: You could use some youth. 257 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, her big looks like, you know, somebody 258 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: that's going to help you in the long. 259 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: Washington in Washington, he's played more snaps on all of them. 260 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it goes beyond that, you know, 261 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Spencer Anderson and guys like that that looked like. 262 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Brought Spencer Anderson a month. But he may be in 263 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: the mix, I mean, right, I mean I saw. 264 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Him walking around the locker room today. I'm like, man, 265 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I talked about Spencer and orson forever, but he was 266 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: a big part of this. And I mean we've talked 267 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: about him a lot. 268 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and training is strong and they used them 269 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: all over the line. So like when you do talk 270 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: about the rookie class, don't forget about him. And Trice 271 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: is going to be back at some point too. 272 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: I saw him today too, Yeah, it was it was funny. 273 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: He was walking through the locker room and one of 274 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: the because he doesn't have a knee done on crutches anymore. 275 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Good. 276 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: So, man, you look like you've gotten bigger. 277 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's doing up a body lifted the whole time. 278 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: As tall as Joey is. 279 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: I know he looks big. 280 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: Trice is taller. 281 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: He's noticeably bigger. Yeah, I mean those two are giants. 282 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: And then you had a guy like Darius rush to 283 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: the equation like they got him for nothing. 284 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: Got him for nothing, right, So I always say this 285 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: about the Rice. Try the Trice Rush situation. I don't 286 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: want to count on them, you know, but I'm real 287 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: happy they're going to be there, you know, and everything 288 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: you get from that's gravy. If one of the two 289 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: works out phenomenally. I mean, all you've has a seventh 290 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: round pick invested in the two of them, I bet, 291 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: I bet you get insane. At least one of them 292 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: makes a team. Maybe both one of them might become 293 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: a starter one day. 294 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just an insane good fortune for the Steelers. 295 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: And so meantasky this too. Well, Yeah, I did a 296 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: Wednesday night show with Tim Benz and Ton Offerman as 297 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: we always do, hopefully not the last one, and we 298 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: were going through the awards, you know, the team awards, 299 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: and you know, they asked me, do you think Porter's 300 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: clearly the Rookie of the Year. I'm like, yes, but 301 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: the other guys, as we talked about yesterday, would win 302 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: many years and that's just it's just a really good class. 303 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: But you know, yes, he wins that. And then we 304 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: talked about, of course, what was the team MVP? Sure, 305 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: and then I think Tim asked me how far of 306 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: a runner up is Porter for MVP? You know, like 307 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: he's not that far off see fourth fifth, you know 308 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like he's been extremely valuable. I don't 309 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: care if he's a rookie or not. 310 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: No, he has been just and when you look at 311 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: what he's done, you know, there there were a lot 312 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: of I mean, what was was the clear choice? Oh sure, 313 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: but I could look at a lot of different guys 314 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: on that on that team and say. 315 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm not who sure who number two is? You know, 316 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: We've got to kind of how it was coming up, 317 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: and it's like, well, maybe porters in the mix for 318 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: he's in three four five, you know, in that discussion, 319 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean you'd you know, offensively, you look at uh, 320 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: George Pickens, Yeah, Jaylen Warren and Naugie Harris and we 321 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: kind of joked like if we could combine Harrison Warren, 322 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: that's number two. 323 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: If you combine, if you combine Harrison Warren right now, 324 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: they would be the best running back in the league. Yes, 325 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: and it would really be. It wouldn't even really be close. 326 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: They have a well over two thousand total yards. They'd 327 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: have over I think it's like sixteen hundred rushing yards. 328 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, close to a thousand. 329 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: He's and Warren's like seven fifty, so they'd have over 330 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: sixteen hundred receiving, and then you add in the receiving 331 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: factor with it. I mean they've gotten a lot of 332 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: bang for their buck out of the running back. 333 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Tons Tons, Tons. It's not a knock on Cam Hayward Amenka. 334 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: They've also been hurt a lot, but they're not the 335 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: easy runner up this year as they often have been. 336 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: Boswell has been great, but how a bad a kicker 337 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: at the kicker, you know, so Porter's not far off 338 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: the equation. 339 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: No, you could look at some of those linemen. 340 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: Two has been good, but he doesn't have double digit sacks, right, 341 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: you know right. 342 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: And the funny thing about this season, we're talking about 343 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: this like it's over, but some of the guys. 344 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: The awards were just given out. 345 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were some of the guys who there 346 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: have been different guys at different times, like. 347 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Like Pickens is the most interesting one, Like he had 348 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: some down times, yeah, you know right, and then he's 349 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: had unbelievable hives too. I mean he's a thunderbowlt. 350 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: You can look at a guy like a land and Roberts, 351 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah who you know? For long for the other pos 352 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: portion of the season. Okay, he's he's in there, he's 353 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: he's contributing. 354 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: He's good, We're happy with him. 355 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Then everybody else goes down around him and it's like, oh, 356 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: he's really important. 357 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: You're really valuable, right, and maybe he comes back and 358 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: is valuable one, two, three more times. You know, we'll 359 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: see you know, same thing has been a group effort. 360 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, Patrick Peterson has been invaluable with everything that 361 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: he's done on the back end. 362 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm playing. 363 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Cornerback and now moving to safety and just being able 364 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: to do that with a guy. 365 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the guards have had really strong year. Yeah, 366 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: I know, They've both been really quality players. You know, 367 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: so there's a lot to pick from. 368 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, you know, in a lot of ways, I 369 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: look at this season. You know, when the season opened, 370 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: there were still people who questioned how good this offensive 371 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: line can be. I don't know that that's a question anymore. 372 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I don't think that they will 373 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: ignore it in the off season, but I do think 374 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: that they're very happy with the O line. It's in 375 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: a good place right now. I'm pretty fortunate again with injuries, 376 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: which is you know, knock on wood hopefully that keeps up. 377 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: That's two years in a row. But they have a 378 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: potential superstar at right tackle right now who's only going 379 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: to get better. I think the guard pairings, I don't know, 380 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth best guard pairing in the league. I 381 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: mean something like that. Yeah, high quality group. And I 382 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: saw some some of these stats are ones I don't 383 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: quite under always believe, but when the Steelers run off 384 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: left tackle, they're the best team in the league in 385 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: terms of just yards per carry. So I know, Dan 386 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: Morgan is a bad rap at times, but there's some 387 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: things he does quite well. 388 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no doubt about that. I think he does. 389 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean when you think about the gauntlet of pass 390 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: rushers and he has faced this year, No, it's not 391 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: it's not been easy at all. And I stually start 392 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to hear I mean, wow, you can't come out of 393 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: the gate anytime, believe right, they're all like defensive Player 394 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: of the Year candidates one after another. 395 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: Because there's Ruth, there's Garrig. 396 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Mantle's coming up. So yeah, I mean, I I think, 397 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's proven to be durable and that there's 398 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to like there. You know, when 399 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you when you look at what we're seeing now at 400 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the safety position. I'm intrigued by this. 401 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Peterson situations. 402 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Peterson makea Fitzpatrick situation. You know, Can I add another 403 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: young guy to that? Do I go get another veteran guy? Is? 404 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: You know? What do you do there? 405 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 406 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: Evolves he's shown this year you need three maybe four? No? Yeah, 407 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, so you'd like to get another 408 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: young guy in the in the mix there. 409 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: But and even like Row and Jack and some of 410 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: these guys that you just kind of found out of nowhere. Yeah, 411 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's very seasons of a marathon. 412 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been very valuable. So it's been a it's 413 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: been an interesting season. And you know, as Bill Cower 414 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: always used to say, and he got this from Marty Schottenheimer, 415 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, the season is a marathon, not a sprint. Sure, 416 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: and you can't get two highs with the highs or 417 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: low with the lows. I've got some high moments for 418 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers this season. Yeah and yeah, but you have 419 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: to stay steady with it. And I think that's what 420 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin excels at. 421 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think his communication and the 422 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: feel for those around him is as players. But I 423 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: think he's been around long enough too that we don't 424 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: need to be celebrating after a nice win. You know, 425 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 2: the Seattle one. 426 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: There's always twenty four hour old. You just get over 427 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: it and move one to the next one. 428 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously the plane ride home is a 429 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: lot more enjoyable after a win than a loss, et cetera. 430 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: But let's not get too crazy high or low, because 431 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: we get right back at it week after week. 432 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: Things don't change, No, they can't. And uh, you know, 433 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: with a young team and they are, you know, especially 434 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: an offense primarily a young team in a lot of spots, 435 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: that's a big lesson to learn. I thought interesting as 436 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: well when Cam Hayward was asked, I think this was 437 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: after the game, uh, you know about being in some 438 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: of these must win situations, and he said, you know, 439 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: we get a lot of guys on our roster who 440 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: are fresh out of college football and are used to 441 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: playing like, hey, you lose a game, it's over. I 442 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: guess you're not getting into the National Championship picture. 443 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: I say, all the Georgia guys. 444 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: They had the Alabama guys, Yeah, you know, like that's 445 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: what they're used to even you know, some of the 446 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: text on the. 447 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 2: Beauties of the Big Program, guys like, first of all, they. 448 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Custom to winning. 449 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: They're custom to winning, you know, obviously they probably have 450 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: for much of their life because you don't you know, 451 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: they're a highly recruited player. But practices aren't easy. You know, 452 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: you're not just easily the best player on the field, 453 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: even if you're a five star in his second year 454 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: in All American I mean, George Pickens went against great 455 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: corners day after day, and then you get here and 456 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: realize that mentality of a loss the rails your season 457 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: and that mentality, you know, and I bet that's hard 458 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: for people, Like how did Nausey handle the first you know, 459 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: when he lost his third game of the year. You 460 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: know that every one doesn't if more. 461 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Games and he lost his entire time in Alabama used 462 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: to lose them. 463 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: You know, how do I handle this? 464 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? So it's a process, and you have to teach 465 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: these guys and learn and keep everybody together. And they've 466 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: done that, and they've put themselves into a position on 467 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: Saturday that you know, hey, they can get to ten wins. 468 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all would have taken ten wins, I think. 469 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, five and one in the division. We would have 470 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: taken five. 471 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: I want to take right. 472 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: So you know, it is what it is. Hopefully the 473 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: you know, if the chips fall where they may, it 474 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: works out in their favor. If it doesn't, you know, 475 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: it just wasn't meant to be. 476 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing relative games and January though, I mean that's 477 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: what good organizations do. 478 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna get to a break. He is the 479 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive 480 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. 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Did you see the You 488 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: can soon on Steelers dot com Shop dot Steelers dot 489 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: com you'll be able to buy the Nause Harris Jalen 490 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Warren Angry run shirt. 491 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Really there you go. I'm sure you get some version 492 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: of the scepter next you know, or whatever. 493 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: But they've won like a bunch of times this year. 494 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: I've heard that. I didn't realize that un till this week. 495 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: I didn't even know what. 496 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: It was until I didn't the videos. 497 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: And it's been the talk of the week because they 498 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: were like four for four of the choice they had 499 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: all four, all multiple choices, were all those two That 500 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: was his well deserved. 501 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I've not seen another team get another NFL 502 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: team get dominated like that, not just at the line 503 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: of scrimming, just the physicality, but the running backs just 504 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: throwing guys like you'll see Dereck Henry do that. Oh yeah, 505 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: that happens. You'd see Adrian Peterson do that to somebody. 506 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: But to see both running backs on the same team 507 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: time and time again just beat the crap out of 508 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: the other. I mean, obviously it's a testament to them 509 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: and the Steelers running game. But Seattle can't be happy 510 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: with how and took on block. I can't imagine watching 511 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: that film fun No. 512 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: I mean that was a bad performance and time and 513 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: time again, you just don't see that on NFL field. 514 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: That No. 515 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: No, Plus Harris's running styles odd. I mean, he has 516 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: so much upper body stuff punches and stiff arms and shrugs, 517 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: and there's a lot going on above the waist. 518 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: They call it it's a stiff arm because he puts 519 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: his hand down. 520 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: His arms are also like terodactyls, right. 521 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: But it's not a stiff arm because he looks to 522 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: throw the guy. 523 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not just he's he's. 524 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Not just holding you like, take him and just slap 525 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: him aside. 526 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot more than that. 527 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: Just look to punish him. 528 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: Yes, you get those big hands on him and push 529 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: him around or throw them to the ground. And there's 530 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: a lot of upper body stuff going on. Yeah, it's 531 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: an odd running stuff. 532 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: So we're just talking about MVPs there. 533 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: In their wins this year, Naujie Harris has averaged sixteen 535 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: point seven carries for seventy two yards and has scored 536 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: all seven of his touchdowns and wins. In the wins, 537 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: he's averaged four point three two yards of carry when 538 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: they win the game. When they lose, eleven point three 539 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: carries for thirty nine point three yards no touchdowns. The 540 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: average per game or per rush is three point four 541 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: eight yards. 542 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Wow. So those stats are great, but there's also chicken 543 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: and egg to it. If he's successful, then you give 544 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: it to him more. If he's not, if he's not 545 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: running well, then you don't or if you you know, 546 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: the Niner game, I'm sure was bad. You know, I'm 547 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: just off the top of my head. It seems like 548 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: a million years ago. But I mean, if you're down 549 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: heavy at halftime, he's not gonna get the ball a ton. 550 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: But still, I mean, I feel like I've been saying 551 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: this for now eighteen weeks in a row almost, but 552 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: every week's even stronger than the next because there's even 553 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: more evidence of it both sides of the ball, special teams, coaching. 554 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Everything with this team starts with their ability to run 555 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: the football. Yeah, I very much believe that. 556 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Over the last nine weeks since Week eight, So the 557 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: first half of the season is the Steelers are five 558 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: and four. When they win, they average one hundred and 559 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: sixty seven point eight yards per game on the grounds. Okay, 560 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: when they lose, it's one fourteen point five. 561 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: Interesting. 562 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, when they are able to run the football, 563 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. 564 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: You're in trouble. Yeah, I mean, it's just a long day. 565 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: It wears you out. The defense plays better, everyone plays better. 566 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure Pickens gets less attention, Deontay gets less attention, 567 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: and et cetera, et cetera. The number I saw that 568 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: I hadn't seen up until this week, which is along 569 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: those lines, is when they have the lead, I mean 570 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: it could be a one point lead in with fifty 571 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: eight minutes left in the game, they're the second heaviest 572 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: run team in the league in terms of percentage. If 573 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: they have the league in the lead in the second half, 574 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: they're the heaviest. I mean, like, there's not a lot 575 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: of mystery this. 576 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: No, there's not, and that's why it was so at 577 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: a character or what however you want to put it. 578 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: When they came out of the two minute warning last 579 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: week against the Seahawks and you heard, now everybody has 580 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: seen the video of Mike Tomlin saying, no, we're gonna 581 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: go out there. They're they're really selling out on the run. 582 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: We're going to throw the ball here. Nice yeah, nice 583 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: easy completion. Keep Pete Carroll said after the game, he's 584 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: like he was asked if there was anything that the 585 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: Steelers did that surprised him, had to be and and 586 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: he's there. I mean the question was asked in the 587 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: context of they came out and just had four hundred 588 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: and sixty eight yards against you guys, was there anything 589 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: that they did that you hadn't seen? And he said, well, 590 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: the one thing is surprised me was when they came 591 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: out of the two minute warning and through the football. 592 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. They hit the play, they 593 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: executed it, and that changed everything that we could do 594 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. We were going to use 595 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: our time outs just you know, try to get the 596 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: ball back. That took us out of that. 597 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that was a nail. 598 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: That's them. 599 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: I mean that was the Tyson punch. And you know, 600 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: you and I have seen every snap that Steelers have 601 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: played this year. I'm sure many people listening have as well, 602 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: not even missed a single snap. I don't any of 603 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: us were like, I'm not, I'm shocked by that. Yeah, 604 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: like I was. I didn't see it coming. And it's 605 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: also a testament to Rudolph. I mean, hey, do we 606 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: trust our quarterback to attack that one on one matchup? 607 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: That is an extremely talented receiver. I mean, I don't 608 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: think it's a shocker. It was Pickens either, you know, 609 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: I mean they didn't do it with Austin or Robinson 610 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: or whoever. I mean, your best guy. If you're going 611 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: to put a one on one with your best guy 612 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: and crucial situation, got to strongly consider taking that shot. 613 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it showed a lot of trust, you know, not 614 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: only in Rudolph but in Pickens. 615 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 616 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Hey, you got to run the right route. You got 617 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: to where you're supposed to be at. I mean, catch 618 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: the football. It's not going to be high. It's not 619 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: going to tip off your hands into the safety and 620 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: he's running down the sideline or anything like that. 621 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: Risk of your play out go in the game, or 622 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: I mean even just an incompletion you just did Seattle 623 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: a massive fight always tipped at the line of scrimmage 624 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: or something that's not your fault even you know. Yeah, 625 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: so that I didn't see that coming either, Just like 626 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: right now, could he? 627 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: Uh so? 628 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: Right now? 629 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Nasee Harris needs seventy seven yards to get to a thousand. 630 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the season. Would be three years in a. 631 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: Row, three years a row, and yet there are still 632 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: people who talk about him as a wasted draft pick. 633 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the running backs don't matter. Community is 634 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: always going to exist, and trust me, I understand their 635 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: point of view. But you can't tell me he's not valuable. 636 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: I mean, just can't tell me that. 637 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: He's not missed a game in his NFL career. 638 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: Right, like put the ball on the ground. 639 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Availability is a huge factor when it comes to the 640 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: running backs. 641 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: Good I protection, yeah, closer, good early, you know, sixty 642 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: minute player, I mean tone, tone setter. Yeah. I mean 643 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: there's stuff that doesn't always reflect in stats or you know, Oh, 644 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: he's a three point nine four oh yards per carry 645 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: type guy. Yeah, but also I think this is his 646 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: best year yet. For one thing, he's also breaking up 647 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: more explosives. I wanted to pull a stat up on that. 648 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: But he also has the bettest factor where if it's 649 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: fourth and one, he gets you the one. Yeah, and 650 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: that doesn't exactly help your yards per carry either. But 651 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: the tone setter part is huge. 652 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: It really is. And you know, at some point in 653 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: the game, you get tired of tackling that guy. Yeah, Labriola, 654 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: All he used to talk about is this. You know, 655 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, nobody wants to talkle the tackle 656 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: the fat kid when he's talking about But you know 657 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: jeram bettis because that was the way it was when 658 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: you were a kid, you know, playing backyard football. You 659 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: don't want to tackle. 660 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: The big kid. No, that gets old quick, that gets 661 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: old real. 662 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: Fast when he's running over you. Well, Nagie, Harris is 663 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: the big kid. 664 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: So this makes I mean, because I couldn't have talked 665 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: about this more. And you and I talked about a 666 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: ton all off season explosives. Yeah, and I never thought 667 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: the running game would be an explosive one. It might 668 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: be a physical one, it might be a ball control, 669 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: time of possession one. But of all the running backs 670 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: that have one hundred carries, Warren is second in percentage 671 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: of runs to go for fifteen or more yards. Harris 672 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: is seventh. Like the Warren thing might not blow people away, 673 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't get as many carries, and he 674 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: makes them count and he is an exploded Some of those. 675 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: Are on you know, third down draws and things like that. 676 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: Of course, of course, but the fact that Harris is 677 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: seventh among all backs in the league, you know, I 678 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: mean the mccaffre reason. 679 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: He's not out there on third downs, right in those 680 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: long situations like when he's getting in they get second 681 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: and seven they get. 682 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: Seven to chan or you know those Chris Johnson, Jamal Charles, 683 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: those type of guys, which he isn't. 684 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm with you. I think he's had 685 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: a tremendous year. Really, both backs have. 686 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have, and they play off each other really well. 687 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't think one is jealousy towards the other or 688 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: anything like that. They're hey, if I'm slowing down or 689 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: I need a breather. They don't seem to hesitate at 690 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: all coming off the field. They high five on the 691 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: way in or a couple times. Even just watching the broadcast, 692 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: I saw I think it was Harris whispering and Warren's 693 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: ear about something, you know, maybe the left guard's killing 694 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: the detackle or you know, stuff like that. 695 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: So the interesting thing about it is Matt You know, 696 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: when you look at that drive that they had early 697 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: and it was their first touchdown drive against the Seahawks, 698 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: it is a fourteen play drive they ran at eleven times. Really, 699 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: if you have just one running back in that situation, 700 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: you probably can't do it. 701 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the drive doesn't look like to 702 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: be in the drive, Yeah it doesn't. It just doesn't. 703 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: So this isn't a knock on the O line or 704 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: the blocking, which was really good. But I was a 705 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: little flabbergasted. He had one hundred and twenty two yards rushing. Yeah, 706 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: I think one hundred and eighteen of it or was 707 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: it one hundred and eight either one eight Yeah, came 708 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: after first contact, which watching the game, he had a 709 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: lot of yardage on his own out of desire and 710 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: strength and toughness. But the holes were there too, you know, 711 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: I mean like it was accommodation of both. So that's 712 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: an immense percentage though you know, we're huge, and I. 713 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Mean, I don't know what they can say. You know, 714 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: his first contact, some guy gets a hand on using whatever, 715 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: sure it is, yeah, but yeah, I mean they were 716 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: there's no falling down at. 717 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: The first No, I mean the words I kept saying afterwards. 718 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: He takes it personal, you know, And I think that 719 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: rubs off on Warren, who doesn't need any motivation either. 720 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: I mean, but those guys don't duck out of bounds, 721 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: they don't go down, they don't settle, you know, they 722 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: they fight. 723 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: So I look at this and you know, you you 724 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: ran it. Came up with the stat with the Ravens 725 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: giving up in their last it's been bad. It's been 726 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: it's been really bad. And this is what they're guys 727 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: in there. They don't have the injuries up. 728 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: Front, No, not at all. I mean, I'll dig it 729 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: up here. But it's been one of the only real 730 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: weaknesses of the Ravens of late at all, to be 731 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: honest with you, it's somewhere in this neighborhood here we go. 732 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: So their last seven games, they're averaging five point two 733 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: yards per carry allowed, which is a big number obviously. 734 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: So that's since Week ten against Cleveland, they've allowed eight 735 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight yards per game, which is just 736 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: over one hundred and twenty five yards per game, So 737 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five yards per game, five point 738 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: two yards per carry basically over the second half of season. 739 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Last seven games. Yeah, I mean, so they do play 740 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: a lot of nickel. I'm sure there's some of those 741 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: runs when Baltimore's up big, you know, I mean there, 742 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: but you saw that last week examples. 743 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: You saw it last week early in that game, like 744 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: a chan was breaking off some long runs. 745 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 2: It shan't hurt them, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean 746 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: their run defense isn't phenomenal. 747 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: No, And so you look at it. 748 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: Warren Run, defenders aren't go're gonna play right. 749 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: Warren Sharp tweet this out earlier today. The Ravens are 750 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: sub five hundred minimum of two games played versus only 751 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: two teams in the NFL since the twenty twenty season. 752 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: Wow one is that in itself. 753 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: Wow one is the Dolphins, who they're one and two against. 754 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: That that win last week was the first one that 755 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: they've had since over the Dolphins since twenty twenty. The 756 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: other ones the Steelers. They're one and six against. 757 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 2: The Steelers six. I mean, that's another huge sample size 758 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: and not fluky, you know. I mean, I know Lamar's 759 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: by some of those times and all that stuff, and 760 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers win this one will make it look even worse, 761 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: but it's still counts the same. 762 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: They've beaten Lamar enough times now for it. I mean, hey, 763 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: you can't. You can look at it however you want 764 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: to look at it, But they've beaten him enough times 765 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: now and done it in convincing fashion that you can 766 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: look at and say it's not a fluke, right. 767 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: And I'm sure Tomlin and his staff might not know 768 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: exactly who's going to line up in this game. But 769 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: he knows how they're going to play it. Yeah, and 770 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: he knows still the opponent, and he knows their tendencies, 771 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: and he knows that building and the organization as a whole, 772 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: and the type of football play even going back to 773 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: scouting and draft and the type of players that they're 774 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: going to acquire. You know, they that knowledge, that intimate 775 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: knowledge of the division and you're frankly, your number one 776 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: opponent is massive. 777 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, here's the other part of this that that Sharp 778 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: tweeted out. On first half early downs, the Steelers have 779 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: attacked the Ravens run defense on fifty five point four 780 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: percent of play, so fifty five percent of the time on. 781 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: Early down winning Street or over that since since twenty Yeah, 782 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: they've run the ball. 783 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: Fifty five percent of the time on early downs against 784 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens. 785 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: Multiple different quarterbacks, multiple lines. You know. 786 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that's the highest first half run rate for 787 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: any team to play the Ravens at least two times. 788 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: It aligns with the Ravens defense utilizing light boxes at 789 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: the second highest rate on those early downs. 790 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: Interesting, it's really interesting. You know, again, they love to 791 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: be in nickel, They love to be in big nickel. 792 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: So Steelers take what you give them. 793 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna come out there with a nickel. It's 794 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: the same way you attack Buffalo. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 795 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: all right, you want to play nickel, lot of nickel. 796 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna run against you. 797 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: To run against you in early downs, you know, and 798 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: before it gets the third and long and things like that. Yeah. Interesting, 799 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: But that's number one though against. 800 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: Them, number one. 801 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 802 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. And some of that, again is knowing their personnel, 803 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: knowing how your personnel matches up against their personnel. And 804 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: you build, you build your team in the offseason to 805 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: beat the other teams in your division. 806 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: No without question. 807 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: And so these two teams are built to do that. 808 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: They have a lot of the same DNA obviously. 809 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: I just wonder how much of since Cincinnati has been 810 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: the big kid on the block in recent years, they've 811 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: been the team that went to the super big. Yeah, 812 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: did Baltimore maybe change some things in recent years? We 813 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: see them playing more nickel down you know, nickel now 814 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: and early downs? Are are they now doing what the 815 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: Steelers did? This is what hurt the Steelers in twenty seventeen, 816 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen or twenty seven team for sure. Uh, they 817 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: built They went after losing in the AFC Championship to 818 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the to the Patriots. Yeah, they went in and said, Okay, 819 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: we're going to build our We got to find a 820 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: way to beat the Patriots. That's who we have to 821 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: get past to get to the super Bowl. 822 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: But you can lose sight of your division. 823 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: Then and then all of a sudden, here come the 824 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: Jaguars come come along, and they're a power running team, 825 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: and they're an awful matchup for you, and you lose 826 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: them twice in convincing fashion that. 827 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: Year, which is exactly who used to be the type 828 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: of teams that would beat up on the Jags, right 829 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: your your changes, Yeah, I think about that a lot too, 830 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: you know. Like so we were talking about this yesterday 831 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: even like talking about Steelers future offensive coordinator or whatever. 832 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: You know, Like the Ravens are extremely well set up 833 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: to beat the Dolphins offense, the Niners offense, the Shanahan offenses, 834 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: but maybe not the AFC North offenses. 835 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: You know, maybe if they lose this game on Sunday, 836 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: they're three and three into three. 837 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: Three in the division. You know, Like I don't remember 838 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: well enough, but in twenty seventeen, as you mentioned, don't 839 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: lose sight of the obstacle in front of you to 840 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: get there. Yeah. So, actually the Bills are the best example, 841 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: because I really think the Bill's mistake as a team 842 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: is there trying to beat the Chiefs, right, not win 843 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: in the tundra of Buffalo. With Jerome Bettis and Mike Alstatt. 844 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna play Nickel, We're gonna be fast. We want 845 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: von Miller, we want speed, speed, speed to chase down Mahomes. 846 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: They're the biggest fish in that in the conference. Yeah, 847 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: but you play in Buffalo, you know what I mean? 848 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, I mean exactly, give me Ted Washington 849 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: and the Williams. You know, Ted Williams and the Williams 850 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: Wall and those type of guys. I mean, be a 851 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: bully in the weather. 852 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of a catch twenty two. 853 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: It is. I mean, obviously there's some players that do 854 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 2: it all, but there's not many of them. 855 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so, you know, you got to build 856 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: your team like this is one of the best things 857 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: about the league was to happen to Steelers, happened to 858 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. There are two teams then in 859 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: the AFC playoff field that Baltimore does not want. 860 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: To see would you say Cleveland's the other Cleveland and Pittsburgh. 861 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: Baltimore does not want to see either of those teams 862 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: because they're not going to be intimidated going into them 863 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: into the stadium, right, They're there all the time and 864 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: they both beat you this season. 865 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they would rather play the Chiefs without a doubt, 866 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: without a doubt, especially in their building, or the Bills, Yeah, without. 867 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: Miami, And they don't care who it is. They don't 868 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: want to see those two AFC North teams come rolling in. 869 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: And we all know Lamar's record against NFC teams, but 870 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: the plat fact that you played him twice a year 871 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: for his whole existence, you know him better than Buffalo, 872 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: you know in Kansas City. His unique stuff isn't as 873 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: unique to you. You know. So I wish I knew 874 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: more about this stuff and it'd be I mean, it's 875 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: a ton to take on. But people I know that 876 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: know a lot about NFL betting are really really in 877 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: tune with coordinator versus coordinator matchups. Yeah, you know, like 878 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: this guy like they could have projected, you know, the 879 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: Jags coming to Pittsburgh is a brutal you know, yes, 880 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: they're ten point favorites or twenty point favorites or one 881 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: point favorites or whatever, but that style gives them a 882 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: lot of problems. And this coordinator faced him three years 883 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: ago and did this to him, Like play callers not 884 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: necessarily cordinators. Yeah, there's a lot to be said for 885 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: that stuff. 886 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just think it's interesting. You know, does 887 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore knowing that? Do we see Harbaugh? Yeah, he's not 888 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: going to play his guys in this game. 889 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he wants Steeers go to the playoff. 890 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: I don't think he does either. I don't think he 891 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: would want to. 892 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: Much rather have Houston or Indy or Jackson. 893 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: Absolutely now they've also lost to Indianapolis. 894 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 2: Ye, but I'd rather play Indy, Yeah, no doubt. 895 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: Not some team, not a team that knows you and 896 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: is not going to be intimidated coming into you. 897 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: I doesn't want to play Tomlin. Not that Tomlin's better 898 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: or worse than Harbor, right, but it'd be the same 899 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: would be true if the Steelers were fifteen and two 900 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: right now or whatever. Like, I don't want the Ravens 901 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: coming here. 902 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Those are I mean, I've seen a bunch of those 903 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: games where they've played one of the division opponents in 904 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: a playoff. 905 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: It's different. It's different. It's the third time one thing. 906 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the second time. It's not the 907 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: first time. It's a third time. And the familiarities off 908 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: the charts. 909 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: The familiarity brings everything down just even the play It 910 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: evens a playing field so much. 911 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: It definitely does. Because the coaches know each other. 912 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: So you've already game planned for them twice in a season. 913 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: You've already done all that stuff. They're not going to 914 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: fool you. 915 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: No, No, you know, tend. 916 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: You saw the early season film, You've seen the late 917 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: season film. You've seen all the film. You spent the 918 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: entire offseason studying that team, that opponent. 919 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean Cam and Ogan, Jobi know, Zeitler and Linderbaum, 920 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: and you know, I mean like, yeah, I can beat 921 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: him with a bull rush on third down and save it, 922 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, like I know, hit her pitcher stuff, you 923 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 924 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just think that part of this game 925 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: this week is is very interesting. And that's why I expect, 926 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, if if Harbaugh's a chance, wouldn't surprise me 927 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: if he went for two on every touchdown. If they score, 928 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: they get as many points as you can, just to 929 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: try to make this easier. 930 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a little more motivated to 931 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: eliminate the Steelers than every around here seems to mention. 932 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: I do too. 933 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, his nature too, I keep going back. 934 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like to lose 935 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: preseason game. 936 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: To say, he cares more about preseason games than anybody. 937 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: Although the interesting thing about this is they were like 938 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: one and two in the preseason this year. 939 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: Their street finally came the. 940 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: End, and they had a losing record in the preseason 941 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: this year, and they've been a better team. 942 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they should rest their dudes a little more 943 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: and be better late in the year. Yeah yeah. 944 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: So anyways, let's get to another break. He is the 945 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive 946 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more 947 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: right after this come back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is 948 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. And Matt, we have the Ravens injury 949 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: report here and well there to take away from this, 950 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys who were either out questionable 951 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: or doubtful. I would bet that a lot of these guys, 952 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: if they're even if they're not listed, is out, don't play. 953 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean six of all ruled out. 954 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: Here are the guys who have been ruled out. Odell 955 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: Beckham he will not play. 956 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: Are they just calling that a coach's decision or yes? 957 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: Just like Lamar, Uh, you're not going to see Malik 958 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: Harrison he is out. 959 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: That I kind of wish didn't happen. Yeah, because then 960 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: it makes me think Queen and or Roquan will dress 961 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: at least. 962 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, I got a lot of guys will dress. I 963 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: gotta believe they'll the bringing up a couple of linebackers 964 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: from the practice squader at least one. Uh. Also out 965 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: is Marlon Humphrey ju Je. Yeah, of course we know 966 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: Lamar is out. 967 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 2: Then you have. 968 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: Darryl Worley, who's a defensive back. He won't play. 969 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: Warley and Harrison probably wouldn't played no matter what. Like 970 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 2: they must be hurt her, they must be hurt her. Yeah. 971 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: Question, I'm sorry, doubtful is a. 972 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Flowers which if you're doubtful, now if you're not playing, 973 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, you're not playing. 974 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: No way, these guys are listed is questionable. Ronald Darby 975 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: Zeitler was also out. Zeitler's listed is questionable. 976 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I just got a text from the one app 977 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: I use that six of them rolled out and he 978 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 2: was one of the ones on the list. 979 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: So this is questionable. On the official on the official 980 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: raattery report, they may have considered flowers and miscounted. There 981 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: may anyway, so question was darby. Kyle Hamilton is questionable. 982 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: He got a limited practice in today. He ain't playing 983 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: super valuable for those guys, There's no way. Arthur Mallett 984 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: was a full participant today. He's dealing with the hip injury. 985 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: He is questionable. 986 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 2: They've gotten a lot out of the mallet, but he's yeah. 987 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: Uh. Brandon Stevens their other starting cornerback. He got a 988 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: full participation, a full participation in today, but he is 989 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: questionable and he's dealing with a an ankle injury. I'm sorry. 990 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: You got to think Deontay and Pickens have some matchups 991 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: to their favorite I mean, no Humphrey and if Stevens 992 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: is questionable, doesn't leave much. 993 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: Uh. Tylan Wallace limited the last two days with a 994 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: knee injury. He is questionable. 995 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: He's a depth receiver. 996 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: A Darius Washington UH with a pectorial injury. He is questionable. 997 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: He's an undersized safety rookie from TCU. That's feisty. 998 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: We kind of liked them a little bit going out, 999 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: but he might have played the slot a little bit 1000 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: in this game. 1001 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: Just Malet's not around. Yeah, there's slot stuff interesting and 1002 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 2: talking to matter for this game, but it's either Hamilton 1003 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: or Malet. Like they walked in the door, you wouldn't 1004 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,479 Speaker 2: think they played the same, completely different right, right. 1005 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: And then finally, guard Kevin Zeitler didn't practice. Uh, hasn't 1006 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: practiced since Tuesday, and that was a limited He was 1007 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: limited during an estimated practice, hasn't actually taken the field. 1008 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: Didn't play last week, didn't play last week. He has 1009 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: listed as questionable as well. 1010 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 2: So one Twitter and they just called him knee quad 1011 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: coach coaching decision. 1012 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: So well, they officially listened as questionable. But he's not 1013 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: going to He's not going to play, so you know 1014 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: you'll be missing at least him on the offensive line. 1015 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stanley, to me, seems just like a smart decision 1016 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 2: to at least limit how much he plays. 1017 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they've kind of been doing that the last 1018 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: few weeks anyways, though. 1019 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 2: He's been in rotating tackles, yeah, especially him. 1020 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it would be interesting to see if they 1021 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: continue to do that or if they go with the 1022 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: younger guys just to get them more playing time. 1023 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: I mean, you see a lot of your boy from right. 1024 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of him to see. 1025 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot to see. There's a lot to 1026 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 2: run around too. 1027 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, so the problem becomes, you don't want to 1028 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: put Huntley back there or your running backs back there 1029 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: where they just getting destroyed. 1030 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 2: You don't. But sometimes it's just so I mean I 1031 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 2: think like Linderbaum might play the whole. 1032 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: Game, yeah, and you only have so many center options. 1033 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm sure McCary, who's their jack of 1034 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: all trades, will play the whole game, but maybe half 1035 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 2: of them mcguard half of a tackle, that kind of thing. 1036 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: So and you know he's he don't want to put 1037 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: garbage off. 1038 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: He would be a guy for them, who would They 1039 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: don't want to lose him. 1040 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: No, he's important. Linderm is very important, very important. So 1041 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: they are going to put some quality dudes in Harm's way. 1042 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: You have to, you have you can't can't put everybody down. 1043 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: He can't sit them all. 1044 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: Like, I wonder how much likely plays. 1045 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean they do have tight ends, they do, 1046 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: so I would expect, Yeah, I would expect him not 1047 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: to play a lot. 1048 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like hard does he play a lot? I mean 1049 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: he's you don't even think of well, like you'd worry 1050 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: about him getting hurt because he's a battering ram and 1051 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: he's a specialty type player. But if you're just gonna 1052 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: run the ball a ton, probably play him a lot, 1053 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: a lot, right, just go bash people and you know, 1054 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 2: go from there. 1055 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do, don't. I don't think they 1056 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: play either their top two running backs. 1057 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 2: I think they dress, but they handed the Gordon over 1058 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: and over. Yeah. 1059 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: I think Melvin Gordon's a guy in this game, and 1060 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: I expect Melvin said should be one of my guarantees. 1061 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon gets twenty touches in this game. 1062 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I mean they're short, easy 1063 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: throws too. He's a professional. He understands protection and that 1064 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 2: kind of stuff too. But it sounds like their top 1065 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 2: two receivers are out. Yeah, I mean Bateman will probably 1066 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: play a fair amount. Aguilar will probably play a Ton. 1067 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 1: I expect Malke Cunningham to see some wide receiver time, 1068 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: especially if Wallace is banged up and can't play. 1069 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I think that's definitely gonna happen. Yeah, 1070 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: So the linebacker situation I'm a little curious about. Like 1071 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: I would not even dress roque if he could. 1072 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: Help, No, I would. I would tell Roquan, hey, dude, 1073 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: I know you're healthy. We want to keep you that way. 1074 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we were talking off there, like Matta Bouquet, 1075 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: maybe even Clowney. All right, starting eight, you want to 1076 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: go out there and get yourself another sack possibly and 1077 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: help your. 1078 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: Some of these guys. Actually, I don't want to play 1079 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: Van NOI either. 1080 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: And there's a lot I don't want to play out 1081 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: I was thinking, who can you really afford to not 1082 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 2: so side note and this is actually a fantasy relevant 1083 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: thing and I don't know them, But you want to 1084 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 2: play guys that have incentives in their contract too, like 1085 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: there might you know, Clowney might have a bonus if 1086 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: he gets one more sack. Or you don't want to 1087 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 2: sit that guy down, you know, Yeah, but you are 1088 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 2: going to put him out there for every down either. 1089 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: No, you might pick your spots. Yeah, but yeah, so, 1090 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 1: I mean that's the situation for the Ravens. A lot 1091 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: of guys out if if this were a true straight 1092 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: game and they were playing like you'd look at that 1093 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: and go, oh my god. 1094 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he'd be like they're riddled within her. Yeah yeah. 1095 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: And the Steelers are relatively healthy and getting in comparison. 1096 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously Lamar would play and it's a 1097 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: different world, I mean, but still it's they're gonna be 1098 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: pretty depleted. Or when this when I knew this game, 1099 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: you know, like on a Monday, I thought, maybe they're 1100 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna see more of their quality, high end players 1101 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 2: than I originally thought, you know, with the bye week. 1102 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 2: You know, now I'm thinking they're just going to get 1103 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: out of there and you know, like they're gonna put 1104 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 2: their bottom the barrel dudes in there and treat it 1105 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 2: like run the ball. Yeah, I mean, treat it, like 1106 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 2: you said, like a preseason game to experiment with the 1107 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 2: Malie Cunninghams of the world. But no one knew Willie 1108 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 2: Parker was. 1109 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: Forgets too, that that James Harrison had a monster game 1110 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: in that game, in that game against the Bills and No. 1111 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 2: Four two, and a lot of these dudes haven't played 1112 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: a lot of snaps and they're fresh, and they are 1113 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: hungry as can be, you know, like they can hurt you. 1114 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still NFL players. 1115 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 2: And the coordinators aren't taking the week off. No they're not. 1116 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to another break that's going to do 1117 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: it for our number one. We'll be back with our 1118 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: number two of the drive right after this