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Speaker 1: Today on the show Guessing Lines Week fourteen, National Football League,
Speaker 1: Vinny will be in here for Chrissie Mannie Malulu and
Speaker 1: for the great Christie Andrews, director of the South Point
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Speaker 1: We will talk Guessing Lines week fourteen again another nod,
Speaker 1: another tribute to the old stardust radio show of the
Speaker 1: same name back in the day with Roxy Roxborough um,
Speaker 1: where we will try to isolate value and upcoming lines.
Speaker 1: I've been at a cocoon. I don't know the lines
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, Kelly, Kelly Bidlin here Yes today,
Speaker 1: laies and gentlemen, once again as my my stop gap
Speaker 1: producer trying. Happy Monday to you, Gil Bridge in the gap.
Speaker 1: Happy Monday to you man, although I know this isn't
Speaker 1: a Monday for you. You worked all weekend long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like Friday, Saturday, Sunday combined sort of thing.
Speaker 1: I guess from today. That's all right? Um, wait, where
Speaker 1: was I going with this again? Oh? Yeah, um a
Speaker 1: couple of last couple of weeks guessing line. I've been
Speaker 1: outraged by two different lines each of these two weeks.
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, it was an outrageous Colts line when
Speaker 1: minus nine against the Dolphins. I was like, you gotta
Speaker 1: be kidding me. It was like five five, five six
Speaker 1: points off. Colts needed everything to win that game, wanted
Speaker 1: at the end. And then the Redskins I had him
Speaker 1: at six as the dogs against the Cowboys. Vinnie told
Speaker 1: me was eight and a half. I was outraged by that.
Speaker 1: Redskins lost by eight. If you got it early, got
Speaker 1: that this week. We split on the outrage lines this
Speaker 1: past week. Um, the one that I was correctly outraged
Speaker 1: about was the Jets. Tennessee was giving nine against the Jets,
Speaker 1: and we get kidding me, like Tennessee shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: nine point favorite or anybody they do end up winning.
Speaker 1: Tennessee does hit for teaser folks. Uh, they trailed the
Speaker 1: entire game, only lead at the end. Uh. The line
Speaker 1: that I was outraged by that didn't turn out to
Speaker 1: be justified in my outrage with was the Atlanta Baltimore line.
Speaker 1: I thought Atlanta should be the favorite. Atlanta did end
Speaker 1: up being the favorite after Vinnie told me Baltimore was
Speaker 1: the favorite when we did this a week ago, and
Speaker 1: then Baltimore proceeded to just we'll get into the details
Speaker 1: of all the games yesterday. That was a surprise to me,
Speaker 1: and that was that that was a loser for me
Speaker 1: for the weekend. Uh. It was, but I and I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly your thought process on it, Buddy. To me,
Speaker 1: it was. And Lamar Jackson's implosion game is coming at
Speaker 1: some point, so I'm going to keep faith until that happens.
Speaker 1: And yesterday we saw glimpses of it, right, he had
Speaker 1: the fumble that then turned into a touchdown. You see,
Speaker 1: you're always gonna get the great and the bad with
Speaker 1: with Lamar And And I know this a little bit
Speaker 1: because because I covered him all throughout his high school career,
Speaker 1: even before he got into college. So yeah, so I
Speaker 1: know I know him from way back then. So I'm
Speaker 1: as much as I love the guy. He's got a
Speaker 1: great arm, incredible talent. We know what he can do.
Speaker 1: An implosion game or two is going to come once
Speaker 1: some tape gets down on the guy and people kind
Speaker 1: of get to know what he's doing. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more fade Baltimore and yes, Atlanta's
Speaker 1: at home. Matt Ryan's great. I know that offense can
Speaker 1: do what they do. They either get a few stops,
Speaker 1: maybe that's a winner. But yeah, I went the other
Speaker 1: way on me yesterday. And I just want to point out,
Speaker 1: because I've been beating this drum for the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Here's again live audio of John Harbaugh talking
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco saying, hey, my hips great,
Speaker 1: John Harper saying, uh no, your hips still hurts. No
Speaker 1: trust made hurts. No, No, really is good. No, No,
Speaker 1: still hurts Joe. And that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's gonna happen again this week. Uh, it's what you do.
Speaker 1: Raise a point there though, that we don't harp on enough,
Speaker 1: which is handicappers um as sports bettors. While I was
Speaker 1: watching Chase Daniel and the and the Bears yesterday, I
Speaker 1: was secretly hoping the Bears would end up winning that
Speaker 1: and then Chase would play again, so you could just
Speaker 1: bet the house against it, because I felt the same
Speaker 1: way about him as you are saying about Lamar Jos,
Speaker 1: because I think I don't know how Chase Daniel. First
Speaker 1: of all, how they won that game against the Troy
Speaker 1: was a pick six obviously, but yesterday how they got
Speaker 1: the ball down field to actually tie that after the
Speaker 1: onside kick was just or even prior to uh that,
Speaker 1: that drive as well, it's just amazing. Uh and to
Speaker 1: me was an outlier. So who knows, it'll probably be
Speaker 1: tribisky next week anyway. Yeah, I'm big on you, you know,
Speaker 1: especially when we talk you know court new quarterbacks or
Speaker 1: or or you know, guys coming in or like like
Speaker 1: that or if there, if I'm looking at specific spots,
Speaker 1: it is funny how you're you may lay off one
Speaker 1: week just knowing that you want X to happen because
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet that you know, bet a ton and
Speaker 1: the following week when they play that, you know, play
Speaker 1: the next team. So it's funny when you're you're rooting
Speaker 1: for someone to do well one week because you know
Speaker 1: or you want them to crash and burn the next week.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how we think before we get to Viny.
Speaker 1: Because Vinny has come in studio. Hello, Vinny, how are you?
Speaker 1: Let's start. We'll turn Nny's Mike on at some point
Speaker 1: Vinny mole La Ladies and gentlemen, or in for Christy
Speaker 1: Andrews here on a on a Monday guesting lines for
Speaker 1: week fourteen, Vinny Molilo, or as chrisy Onants called him,
Speaker 1: Vinnie Mayo Leo. He's only known him for like three
Speaker 1: decades or more. Viny Mao Leo. I love yeah all NFL.
Speaker 1: Then again, tonight Eagles six point favorites over the Redskins,
Speaker 1: big implications in the National Football Conference Eastern Division. If
Speaker 1: the Skins win, they will be in a tie record
Speaker 1: wise with the Cowboys. Those two teams, having split their
Speaker 1: two games this year, both would be at seven and five,
Speaker 1: and that would effectively put the Eagles not not mathematically eliminated,
Speaker 1: but that would they'd be done so at that point
Speaker 1: as the defending Super Bowl champions, would take a miracle
Speaker 1: for them to overcome the two game deficit with four
Speaker 1: games left against two different teams, that is if the
Speaker 1: If the Eagles win, obviously the Cowboys would have a
Speaker 1: one game lead then over both the Redskins and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about this that is a bit of
Speaker 1: a surprise, not a complete surprise, but a mild upset,
Speaker 1: is that the Redskins look like they're going to have
Speaker 1: a Chris Thompson back tonight, which Chris Thompson and Jamison
Speaker 1: crowd Are both practiced last this this past week, and
Speaker 1: they practiced Wednesday and Thursday. Thompson looks like he's definitely
Speaker 1: playing and Chris Thompson is the Redskins most dynamic offensive
Speaker 1: player period With apologies to Jordan Reed, Jamison Crowded, their
Speaker 1: slot receiver maybe back tonight, So again, be sure to
Speaker 1: check the inactives prior to game time. We won't know
Speaker 1: for sure until this afternoon. But that's a big deal. Um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too quick, in other words, to lay
Speaker 1: those six points, is what I'm getting at, because again,
Speaker 1: this is the Skins team that has been decimated by
Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive side of the football, both on
Speaker 1: the line as we've documented and in their skill position players.
Speaker 1: So they could be getting or they will be getting
Speaker 1: one back tonight if not two of those guys. You
Speaker 1: know what's interesting. A week ago we were talking about
Speaker 1: the possibility or a strong likelihood of a three way
Speaker 1: tie in in the in the NFC East, right, because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were a significant dog at home Thursday night
Speaker 1: against the Saints. They took care of business there, so
Speaker 1: they're certainly remain in the driver's seat. UM really puts
Speaker 1: more uh of an emphasis on this game tonight, right because,
Speaker 1: as you said, Gil, I mean, especially if it's if
Speaker 1: the Eagles lose this game tonight, I just don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't see it happen. I mean, they were already
Speaker 1: in a in a tough spot, but Eagles trying to
Speaker 1: avoid Vinnie becoming the eighteenth team and a fifty two
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions are fifty one would be fifty two
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions not to make the postseason the next year.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jamison Crowder has missed seven games for
Speaker 1: the Skins with an ankle injury. Chris Thompson has missed
Speaker 1: six games with rib injury. Separate rib injuries for the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Head against it tonight. Vinnie in for Chrissie
Speaker 1: this morning, Chrissie and you have been on the horn
Speaker 1: once again. Chrissie on the on the horn listening right now.
Speaker 1: Called in the finals with and supervisor Lou Vargin. Put
Speaker 1: them in. They're up, They're in, They're in. I've got
Speaker 1: the openers for you, buddy. All right, let's do Thursday
Speaker 1: night and we'll go to break after that, alright. In
Speaker 1: earnest boys, the Jacksonville Jaguars at the Tennessee Titans. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars Tennessee Titans. A little bit different matchup than we
Speaker 1: had last Thursday. Yeah, that's the little Also a little
Speaker 1: different from that Monday night game that preceded. Um Jacksonville
Speaker 1: at Tennessee a f C South. Jacksonville gets off the
Speaker 1: channid yesterday. Cody Kessler eight one fifty in the Jaguars
Speaker 1: sixth nothing win over the Colts, a defensive machine, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks for Zack three times, A little questionable at
Speaker 1: the end of that game with the time expiring. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: shouldn't have come down to that, but certainly looked like
Speaker 1: uh Colts receiver and I forgot which receiver it was,
Speaker 1: but he looked like he was out of bounce Swoop.
Speaker 1: They were going to have one more shot at the
Speaker 1: end zone there. Yeah, when Vine's referring to. By the way,
Speaker 1: the the Jaguars not only win it out right obviously,
Speaker 1: they cover his four and a half point dogs. Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: who earlier in the game had reached out and briefly
Speaker 1: offered to help Andrew Luck off the ground at one point,
Speaker 1: only to quickly withdraw his hand and walk away with
Speaker 1: a little psych saw that move the allway is charming.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey hit Eric Swoop what you're referring to,
Speaker 1: Vinny near the sideline at the end of a third
Speaker 1: and six um what turned out to be a game
Speaker 1: ending play at the Jacksonville twenty nine Jacksonville twenty nine
Speaker 1: yard line. Colts had no time outs and the tight
Speaker 1: ends seemed to land out of bounds, but official right there,
Speaker 1: right on the spot ruled that swoops forward progress had
Speaker 1: been stopped. That kept the clock running. Colts out of time.
Speaker 1: Ounts can only watch the clock wind down. Jags win
Speaker 1: at six to nothing. Big loss for the Colts. Following
Speaker 1: they fall now three games out of first place in
Speaker 1: the a f C South with four left. So that's
Speaker 1: the Texans division to win at this point. Jack stopping
Speaker 1: a seven game losing streak, snapping a Indianapolis five game
Speaker 1: winning streak in the process. Colts very much still in
Speaker 1: the a f C wild Card picture. Cody Kesler's first
Speaker 1: win in nine career starts. He did have one interception,
Speaker 1: drop managed to wrestle a way a fumble of his own.
Speaker 1: A lot of things went their way at Tennessee. Tennessee
Speaker 1: was down big to the Jets, came all the way
Speaker 1: back win it in the end with what about the
Speaker 1: thirty five seconds to go thirty six seconds alright, Marcus
Speaker 1: Mario levin yard touchdown past the Corey Davis with thirty
Speaker 1: six seconds left. Titans rally from a six point deficit,
Speaker 1: beat the Jets. Two teasers cash, but they do not
Speaker 1: cover Jets cover. Remember that was one of my outrage
Speaker 1: you did, and I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: What's interesting you had said, because this the Titans at
Speaker 1: nine and a half, Right, I was like, they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be favored by that over anybody. But you want to
Speaker 1: know something, they didn't. It's not like they took the
Speaker 1: Jets in that game. It's interesting to you know what
Speaker 1: when we say these we paid point very much attention
Speaker 1: to how games are wagered. And so that's that's another
Speaker 1: aspect of this whole process of hours whereby you say, well, listen,
Speaker 1: what about what do you make it? What? How? How
Speaker 1: are the previous games? How were certain matchups in particular wagered?
Speaker 1: It was interesting, Um, and after we got off, I
Speaker 1: thought maybe there would be a significant influx of of
Speaker 1: Jets money. Did not happen. It is It is funny
Speaker 1: how even with the outrage, then you're like, okay, well
Speaker 1: you can bet in the Jets then, right, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I think I will. You know you're not again, You're
Speaker 1: not just Stanza, women and children over to go bet
Speaker 1: the Jets. Um, Marcus Mariota and the Titans. They forced
Speaker 1: the Jets to pump by the way one six left
Speaker 1: found themselves starting at their own fourteen to set up
Speaker 1: the game winning drive. Uh, they got it done. Maria
Speaker 1: Mariota through for two two hundred eighty two yards in
Speaker 1: the second half. Also live the Titans with forty three
Speaker 1: yards rushing, including a twenty five yards scramble on that
Speaker 1: game winning drive where he recovered his own fumble at
Speaker 1: the end. That was a big theme yesterday in the
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks recovering their own fumbles. Certainly, the Giants would
Speaker 1: have been killing themselves if they had lost that because
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel was just fumbling it all over the place
Speaker 1: and recovering it all over his place. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that later. Anyway, tightens out game the just four oh
Speaker 1: three to two eighty in total offense. Jacksonville at Titans
Speaker 1: a barn burner of a Thursday night game. I'll say Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and let's relate it back to my guests from last
Speaker 1: week right where I said I think I said Tennessee
Speaker 1: by three or four over the Jets or four, I said,
Speaker 1: and it's nine and a half. I was outraged. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna remain consistent. I'm gonna say Tennessee
Speaker 1: by four and a half. Here over the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: four and a half. There it is, they've come, and
Speaker 1: what a start they've come. To me, they are I'm
Speaker 1: drunk with power. We're just gonna put your numbers up today,
Speaker 1: don't matter what. Let's just do that. Jaguars and victory.
Speaker 1: Eleven first downs, two eleven totally yards. Sometimes it works
Speaker 1: out that way. But you don't know when this may
Speaker 1: look I'm sorry, but if this may look like it,
Speaker 1: well you said, well, this is not a really particularly
Speaker 1: attractive matchup given their their records. But it's the Thursday
Speaker 1: night game, and you know what's the standalone game. It's
Speaker 1: not going to do what the game last less Thursday
Speaker 1: Night the Cowboys and Saints did, but uh it'll still
Speaker 1: it will have more handled than it would have if
Speaker 1: then if it was on Sunday. So did that Saints
Speaker 1: Cowboys was the one lesson the and take away from
Speaker 1: that game more than anything was bet Thursday games at
Speaker 1: your own risk, because squirrely things happened on Thursdays. The
Speaker 1: difference with that game was because it was Thursday. Has
Speaker 1: always been about a short turnaround, right. But but the
Speaker 1: thing about it is. They had played on Thanksgiving, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't like, yeah, both of them, So it wasn't
Speaker 1: that it was a short particularly short week for both
Speaker 1: of them. It was an attractive enough matchup to It
Speaker 1: was actually one of the highest wagered games of the
Speaker 1: year to handle on. The game was was off the charts.
Speaker 1: We've replaced your New Yorleans Saints with your local high
Speaker 1: school team. Let's watch what happens um Tennessee four and
Speaker 1: a half nailed it. There you go, buddy. Started by
Speaker 1: the way, shout out to Taywan Taylor of the Titan
Speaker 1: was great yesterday. Three catches for one oh four Titans
Speaker 1: when it despite going one of eleven on third downs yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll get to the full Sunday slate. Try to isolate
Speaker 1: some value. That's what we do. It's guessing lines Week
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Speaker 1: on a numbers game, and we're gonna handicap. And now
Speaker 1: as I say that, let me just point this out
Speaker 1: of vide because you'll appreciate this. So tomorrow on the show,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the bowl season tenants, the Bull
Speaker 1: Season handicapping tenants, will run through them all because there's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch and they're always dynamic. Because there's more
Speaker 1: of things happening. Now, guys aren't even showing up for
Speaker 1: ball games like that's the latest thing, right where Ever,
Speaker 1: since Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette said deuces, now everybody's doing,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm surprised it had didn't happen for years,
Speaker 1: and I'm all, I'm all for the players doing that.
Speaker 1: Good for them if they want to protect their pro careers. UM.
Speaker 1: That said, let me just say this as I as
Speaker 1: I promote all this stuff for those of us who
Speaker 1: have bet for years and years college football bull season.
Speaker 1: Every year I go into it very excited, and every
Speaker 1: year I come out disappointed and I just want to
Speaker 1: remind myself because all it took was one day last
Speaker 1: year to remind the very first day with like the
Speaker 1: five bowl games, they're like, oh, yeah, that's why I
Speaker 1: hate bull season because we try to we try to
Speaker 1: handicap motivation, and you know what, in the end, many
Speaker 1: none of us really know, you really don't. That's a
Speaker 1: great point. Um, there's several factors that and again there's
Speaker 1: what forty bowl games. I mean here Here's motivation is
Speaker 1: certainly a part of it. Uh Coaching, coaching over movement, right,
Speaker 1: coaching and players deciding as you mentioned, not to play. Um.
Speaker 1: Suspensions come about, right, and sometimes suspensions in droves like
Speaker 1: a you know, groups of players. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: to uh more, which we'll talk about tomorrow. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a situation where outside of the final four,
Speaker 1: because they're they're playing in advance, it's it's difficult, Um.
Speaker 1: But you know then you've got to take into consideration again,
Speaker 1: we go back to motivation. Who's excited about being in
Speaker 1: a particular game because the program is on the rise? Um?
Speaker 1: Who feels disrespected? You know, we we've we've talked and
Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk about ucf uh do they you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, what an accomplishment for this this program over
Speaker 1: the last few years. So yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things to take take away. But you know what two
Speaker 1: guilt to your point, you can't wait disappointed? But keep
Speaker 1: what keeps you coming back? Their games? They're there petting opportunity.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, Less Championship game was pretty exciting, right,
Speaker 1: so story but like, you know, yeah, I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like sometimes you you you handicapped motivation.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, you know, within these are such
Speaker 1: a lot and there's such live betting vehicles because you know,
Speaker 1: five minutes into a pre flop, you're like, well that's
Speaker 1: that was wrong. Yeah, sorry, Gil, I love you, but
Speaker 1: don't believe that on that first day, when there's five
Speaker 1: games going on, you're not gonna have action on at
Speaker 1: least one game. I'm sorry, you know me, Well, you're
Speaker 1: onto me. That's that's the proverbial lock. Yes, the proverbial
Speaker 1: lock is right. All right, let's continue Week four ten,
Speaker 1: the NFL um Sunday Sunday's first game tending in Pacific.
Speaker 1: Start the Ravens back from the back from the mat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in Kansas City. And um, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you'll have a comment on this now. Again we need
Speaker 1: to see obviously more than one game, but the Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt situation, and yes, I believe certainly impacted and and
Speaker 1: impacts that Chief's offense. I believe it does. And we've
Speaker 1: become very we've become very used to saying, well, quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are really the only thing that moves the needle, and
Speaker 1: only certain quarterbacks. But man, um sure a period yesterday anyway,
Speaker 1: it is only one game that Kareem Hunt probably moves
Speaker 1: the needle a little in them. But in the betting market, well,
Speaker 1: you know what else, Gilt, you talked about fumbles in
Speaker 1: the first segment, and quarterbacks in particularly fumbling and recovering
Speaker 1: their own fumbles, the Raiders don't fumble the ball yesterday,
Speaker 1: or if they recover from they win the game. Right,
Speaker 1: think about it, I mean they they did not recover
Speaker 1: their fumbles. Kansas City ends up winning that game against Raider.
Speaker 1: Raiders got within three linked in that game, and for
Speaker 1: a moment there you're like, is this is this really happening?
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs end up going away winning that ball
Speaker 1: game yesterday. If we could flash up the final from yesterday,
Speaker 1: Kansas City wins it on twenty three of thirty eight
Speaker 1: passing from Patrick Mahomes two yards, four touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: no sacks. Oh, by the way, you also carried the
Speaker 1: ball nine times for fifty two yards Spencer Ware in
Speaker 1: lieu of of um of Kareem Hunt fourteen carries forty
Speaker 1: seven yards and a touchdown. Travis Kelsey was the man yesterday,
Speaker 1: twelve catches a hundred sixty eight yards, two touchdowns. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs win at forty to thirty three. Don't come near
Speaker 1: h the cover of fourteen points UM eleven penalties for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs also got the best of them for ninety
Speaker 1: four yards UM. Mahomes, by the way, just to a a
Speaker 1: side note, through twelve games. You know the list of
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that have thrown forty touchdown passes through twelve
Speaker 1: games in a season, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes forty one. Now on the season, good lord, Manning
Speaker 1: had forty four at this point. In two thousand four
Speaker 1: Brady had forty one. In twenty thirteen, Oh, Brady also,
Speaker 1: I guess, Oh no, Manning had forty four, and in
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen Brady had whead he won in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Um, yes, so the headline and let's
Speaker 1: just review it again, Kareem Hunt. After we got off
Speaker 1: the year on Friday. This all went down in a
Speaker 1: five hour span on Saturday. Uh, Kareem Hunt TMZ coming
Speaker 1: out with a video UM that from February in a hotel,
Speaker 1: UM that shows Kareem Hunt, UH shoving, kicking um a
Speaker 1: a woman. And it is footage that the NFL claims
Speaker 1: to have never Well, here's here's what we know. The
Speaker 1: NFL never interviewed Kareem Hunt, the NFL never interviewed the victim,
Speaker 1: and according to the Athletic, the NFL actually told the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs to stand down and not pursue the
Speaker 1: video anymore the acquisition of the video, because everybody was
Speaker 1: aware that something went down. Here's a Mike Freeman tweet,
Speaker 1: Mike Freeman NFL at Mike Freeman, NFL. The NFL never
Speaker 1: interviewed Hunt, the NFL never interviewed the victim. The NFL,
Speaker 1: according to the Athletic, instructed the chief stop rushing, the
Speaker 1: pursuing the video everything I just said, TMZ got the
Speaker 1: video point number four, and so it's it harkens back again.
Speaker 1: Not to get too much in the weeds on this,
Speaker 1: but I would go on rants a couple of summers
Speaker 1: ago here on Visa and about how listen, the Roger
Speaker 1: deal makes over forty million a year. On my podcast,
Speaker 1: the Beating the Book podcast, and on this show, I
Speaker 1: have ranted about just how bad of a tenure this is.
Speaker 1: In the NFL spy gate, bounty gate, deflate gate, the
Speaker 1: Redskins and Cowboys salary cap um, just ridiculous ruling that
Speaker 1: no one remembers that Roger Dendal came down on the
Speaker 1: Redskins name flap, which I know people have different opinions on,
Speaker 1: but Roger Dale sided with Daniel Snyder so quickly that
Speaker 1: it was just you know, like, whoa do you want
Speaker 1: to be spend a minute talking about this? Of course,
Speaker 1: the biggest the biggest stain in the Goodell administration though,
Speaker 1: is the question of domestic violence. The issue of domestic violence,
Speaker 1: and the fact is that the written that nothing happen
Speaker 1: to Ray Rice until that video appeared, that grany black
Speaker 1: and white video Ray Rice initially with a just a
Speaker 1: slap on the wrist. Then when the video came out,
Speaker 1: oh boy, what have you done? NFL Josh Brown of
Speaker 1: the New York Giants also mishandled by Roger Goodell. And
Speaker 1: so then last year or two year or two summers ago,
Speaker 1: this is Zekiel Elliott matter with the Cowboys, and I
Speaker 1: ranted on about it on a numbers game all the time.
Speaker 1: How and I'm a Redskin fan. The handling of Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott was a complete pr pendulum swing because of how
Speaker 1: they mishandled Ray Rice and Josh Brown on domestic violence.
Speaker 1: They had Affid David sworn affidavits and flimsy evidence against
Speaker 1: Zekil Elliott. He ended up with a six game suspension
Speaker 1: that he had to keep appealing all year long. Last year,
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous and now this and if it's true that
Speaker 1: the NFL told the Chiefs not to go after this video.
Speaker 1: Shame on them, Shame on them. Another stain. Can't get
Speaker 1: anything right. So in a five hour span when the
Speaker 1: video was exposed by TMZ, was put on the commissioner's
Speaker 1: exemptions list, and then the Kansas City Chiefs basically because
Speaker 1: they had asked Kareem Hunt, even though they didn't end
Speaker 1: up getting the video, they had asked Aaree Hunt. Did
Speaker 1: this happen? What happened? What's the extent of it? Well,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt had lied to them, and so the Chiefs
Speaker 1: cut ties with their leading rusher, um and a key
Speaker 1: cog in their offense. So that's basically the review. If
Speaker 1: you were trapped under a heavy object, we're out of
Speaker 1: the country. Um, Chiefs do get the win against the
Speaker 1: Raiders yesterday. We'll see Spencer Wear and company can make
Speaker 1: up for that moving forward. But obviously on the football field,
Speaker 1: which is where we we uh really care about matters
Speaker 1: here for our purposes. Um, we'll see, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it affects numbers, and Vinnie, I'm guessing it will affect
Speaker 1: a number here. Maybe Baltimore comes into this game having
Speaker 1: beaten Atlanta and again, coach Harball my hips, okay, Joe,
Speaker 1: your hips not okay, not really, it's okay, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Sit back on the sideline, Lamar Jackson yesterday, first of all,
Speaker 1: the Ravens in that game seven of fifteen on third downs,
Speaker 1: two for two on fourth. They outgained Atlanta three sixty
Speaker 1: six to one thirty one in their twenty six to
Speaker 1: sixteen win. Outright wins two and a half point dogs.
Speaker 1: They controlled the ball for thirty nine minutes and thirty
Speaker 1: nine seconds. Lamar twelve of twenty one for one, but
Speaker 1: also added seventeen carries for seventy five yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And that's the dimension that he adds. Dominating defensive performance
Speaker 1: by the Ravens. They limited Atlanta to its fewest yards
Speaker 1: in almost two decades. Baltimore held the Falcons to a
Speaker 1: hundred thirty one yards Atlanta's we're showing since a game
Speaker 1: against the Niners in nine. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: watch red Zone, this was an amazing day of red
Speaker 1: zone with that game. Every time it went to that game,
Speaker 1: the Ravens had the ball. I do not remember one
Speaker 1: instance in which the Falcons had the ball thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine will do that. How about the fact that
Speaker 1: the Ravens opened two and a half in this game
Speaker 1: at one point, Remember that was the other one I
Speaker 1: was at. The Falcons at one point were a three
Speaker 1: point favorite. Is two and a half. That was the
Speaker 1: one I was outraged about and was and should not
Speaker 1: have been outraged about. Based on the result. Ravens end
Speaker 1: up sacking Matt Ryan three times, one of which forced
Speaker 1: the fumble that Tavon Young. We're turning to the eleven
Speaker 1: yards were touchdown that sealed the victory more or less
Speaker 1: back in the division race. Now with the Steelers back
Speaker 1: so half game back, they stumbled. Remember they beat the
Speaker 1: Steelers in Pittsburgh earlier in the season. It looked like
Speaker 1: they were, you know, on a on a terrific course.
Speaker 1: After that game, though, they were never the same, and
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks they've resurrected themselves. I'll
Speaker 1: say Kansas City by seven here touched down pay them
Speaker 1: man seven. It is back to back, right back right
Speaker 1: on it, which is cool, but not really what we want.
Speaker 1: We want outrage, We want to isolate some value. We'll
Speaker 1: find some outrage. I'm sure we'll get there, all right?
Speaker 1: Which got next? We've got the Colts and the Texans matchup,
Speaker 1: so all they a f C South playing each other
Speaker 1: Jaguars Titans on Thursday, and now the Colts Texans here.
Speaker 1: So if there's Indianapolis six and six, Houston's nine and three. UH.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the tiebreakers off hand with Tennessee
Speaker 1: if Tennessee wins Thursday, but I'm guessing Houston might have
Speaker 1: a shot here that well. We Houston definitely has a
Speaker 1: shot here this week to clinch the a f C South. Houston,
Speaker 1: which lost its first three games of the season and
Speaker 1: has reeled off nine in a row, longest winning streak
Speaker 1: of the National Football League Indianapolis against the Jaguars, we
Speaker 1: already covered this game. They had forty one rushing yards
Speaker 1: forty one against the Jaguars. Andrew Luck was sacked three
Speaker 1: times yesterday after getting hit. Remember just five times in
Speaker 1: the entire month of November. Hit five times in the
Speaker 1: entire month of November. He was sacked once in the
Speaker 1: previous five games. Sacked three times yesterday. Col Centered with
Speaker 1: the fourth most points in the league thirty four point
Speaker 1: six points a game during their win streak. UH. Look
Speaker 1: at throwing three or more touchdown passes in eight consecutive games. Yep,
Speaker 1: all of that went away in their shutout loss Cole
Speaker 1: by the way, passing up two field goal tries in
Speaker 1: the first half, including taking one successful kick off the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: they were over over three rather on fourth down, all
Speaker 1: of them in field goal range. They finished with just
Speaker 1: two hundred sixty five yards five of eighteen on third downs,
Speaker 1: and the Texans man they went out to a huge
Speaker 1: lead over the Browns. It was over before you could
Speaker 1: even blink. Twenty three to nothing halftime lead to Shawn
Speaker 1: two of thirty one for two twenty four for the Texans,
Speaker 1: one touchdown. Note, Picks sacked four times, Lamar Miller another
Speaker 1: hundred yard game, nineteen carries a hundred three yards, DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins seven catches, ninety one Houston eight of sixteen on
Speaker 1: third downs. They were out gained by Cleveland love these
Speaker 1: stats three ninety seven to one ninety seven, but there
Speaker 1: were plus four and turnover margin. That's the story. And again,
Speaker 1: speaking of time of possession domination, we just did with
Speaker 1: Baltimore of Atlanta thirty seven minutes thirty five seconds for
Speaker 1: the Texans yesterday in that game. Um, and they picked
Speaker 1: off Baker Mayfield three times, Houston by four, Sir, four
Speaker 1: and a half, right there, kill, Okay, I'll do four
Speaker 1: and half. Alright, makes sense. Let's go to break. We'll
Speaker 1: do more guessing lines week fourteen in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: looking to isolate value. We'll get to something. I hope
Speaker 1: Week seventeen is squirrely. We've got a few more bettable
Speaker 1: weeks here in the NFL, Vinnie, And for Christy, it's
Speaker 1: a numbers game right here at Visa. Back to a
Speaker 1: numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from
Speaker 1: our Visa in studios in Las Vegas. Back on guessing
Speaker 1: lines here on a numbers game where sports betting analytics live,
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Speaker 1: oh four here at Visa, Vinny, I think I can
Speaker 1: speak for everybody because we have TVs on here in
Speaker 1: the studio. UM, And I think this this goes across aisles.
Speaker 1: This is just a great American statesman we're watching. Uh
Speaker 1: George H. W. Bush, our forty one President of the
Speaker 1: United States. Uh, it's his funeral today, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say, what a statesman. And what a resume.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a greater resume for any human being?
Speaker 1: President va as President, lead the CIA, director of the CIA,
Speaker 1: director of the FBI, Ambassador to the United Nations. Uh
Speaker 1: was a World War two pilot you were saying he
Speaker 1: got shot down. It was shot down World War two
Speaker 1: and rescued at sea by an American submarine. Played in
Speaker 1: a couple of college world series by the way, tying
Speaker 1: it into sports for Yale. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 1: point that out. Um, just just a remarkable anyway, you
Speaker 1: pretty humble man in in today's political environment. Let us
Speaker 1: not let that pass without without mentioning and and also
Speaker 1: gil to you and many others. Happy honkah do isn't
Speaker 1: today again? Hanka? Well, thank you, Vinny mali Ulo. It
Speaker 1: is the first day of hanukkah Um. Let me just
Speaker 1: explain brief brief aside here on Hanaka. Hanaka not really
Speaker 1: a big holiday back in the old country, but for
Speaker 1: those of us who grew up Jewish here in this
Speaker 1: UH country, it's sort of a reaction to Christmas, because
Speaker 1: Christmas is a beautiful holiday, a gorgeous phenomenal We love
Speaker 1: Chris this um, but it's sort of all pervasive. So
Speaker 1: as someone who so let me just when I was
Speaker 1: five years old, I will not you know, you have
Speaker 1: some memories and blazing in your head. I will never
Speaker 1: forget the day that my mother made it clear to me.
Speaker 1: I remember she I remember where I was exactly five
Speaker 1: years old. My mother said, you know, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't really appreciate her attitude. She was a bit
Speaker 1: flipping about it. Uh she said to me. She was like, Gilly,
Speaker 1: we don't celebrate Christmas. And I remember thinking of my
Speaker 1: five year old brain, how do I get out of
Speaker 1: this family? Like this is horrific, this is like what
Speaker 1: kind of like look at my older brother, like you
Speaker 1: was just taking it. I was like, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: take this sitting down. But like I didn't understand how
Speaker 1: Santa new to jump from the Haskins house over our
Speaker 1: house to the Websters. Well, here's what you do, and
Speaker 1: why would he do that? You know, here's what my
Speaker 1: buddy Izzy and I had an arrangement. I had a
Speaker 1: buddy is he We have an arrangement. We exchanged gifts
Speaker 1: and we we we promoted it to the family. So
Speaker 1: we got best of both worlds. You got ice are
Speaker 1: you going? I didn't have it. It It was an arrangement.
Speaker 1: I did have an arrangement. I wish you were in
Speaker 1: my next favorite Finny. I didn't have an arrangement like
Speaker 1: that anyway. That was one of these we got that.
Speaker 1: That was only five at this point in this story.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I was. That was one of the
Speaker 1: most traumatic. Thank you. He was nine when he was
Speaker 1: going to the track after that, Um, I was eight.
Speaker 1: And for those who and for those who, for those
Speaker 1: who counter by saying, well, don't you get gifts all
Speaker 1: eight days? No, we don't get gifts all eight days.
Speaker 1: Like there's nobody I know that's ever gone. My dad
Speaker 1: would get donuts every night. Anyway. Anyway, thanks for the
Speaker 1: happy hunt, appreciate it. I didn't mean to memory trauma.
Speaker 1: She had a bit of an attitude of that, Like
Speaker 1: I should have known by then. I remember the exact
Speaker 1: day in the place I do, like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: All right, let let's get here, let me let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let's do a little therapy. Alright. Please the
Speaker 1: Panthers Brown, I forgot what we were doing. For second
Speaker 1: Panthers lose again, Vinny four in a row for the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and Greg Olsen done zo again. Planter Fascia out for
Speaker 1: this season, just horrible luck for him. Christian McCaffrey keeps
Speaker 1: lighting up the box score. Ten carries a hundred six yards,
Speaker 1: nine catches fifty five yards in a touch Cam Newton right,
Speaker 1: that's good. But two touchdowns and four four I n
Speaker 1: T s sacked four times. The Carolina Panthers out gained
Speaker 1: the Bucks four four to three. Fifteen doesn't matter. Carolina
Speaker 1: loses the Bucks to seventeen. They loses three and a
Speaker 1: half point road favorites. Remember last week when I guess this,
Speaker 1: I was like three, and you said three and a half,
Speaker 1: And I said, why are they getting a hook? Buccaneers
Speaker 1: offense can do this anyway. Buccaneers get it done. But
Speaker 1: Carolina falls to six and six and they're very much now.
Speaker 1: For a month ago, they were just a lock to
Speaker 1: get it done into the postseason. Now they're in a scrum.
Speaker 1: They're at Clee lind you said here at Cleveland, Yes, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: who we mentioned already lost to the Texans. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: forty three for three ninety seven but one touchdown in
Speaker 1: three picks, running for his life, running for his life.
Speaker 1: Their entire running game the Browns yesterday was Nick Chubbs
Speaker 1: nine carries for thirty one yards and a touchdown. That
Speaker 1: was it. Nobody else got a carry nine carries for
Speaker 1: thirty one yards. Jervis Landry six catches one oh three,
Speaker 1: but four turnovers for the Browns. That's what did him in,
Speaker 1: including Mayfield's three interceptions. Can you name the last time
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield through three interceptions in one game? Was it
Speaker 1: in co at Oklahoma at Texas when he was a
Speaker 1: freshman where he was where he had transferred from. Uh.
Speaker 1: He entered the game having thrown nine touchdown passes with
Speaker 1: just one interception in the past three games. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know what, J J. Watt after the game, he probably
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling too dangerous in the first half, but he
Speaker 1: was feeling a little But he was feeling a little
Speaker 1: more dangerous in the second half. That was bonds to
Speaker 1: uh Baker Mayfield saying before a Browns winn earlier this season,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling I knew I woke up feeling dangerous this
Speaker 1: pet Well, he was in danger yesterday for most of
Speaker 1: the game. That I can tell you. Tough sequence for
Speaker 1: the Browns to when Mayfield threw a bomb Callaway, it
Speaker 1: was called back on a penalty, and then the next
Speaker 1: play again it was another big gainer. And then just
Speaker 1: before Callaway was going in the end. So Justin Reid,
Speaker 1: who made the biggest play for the Texans against the
Speaker 1: Redskins to pick six for hundred one yards, he knocked
Speaker 1: the ball lows bad news for Cleveland. Also, Denzel Ward
Speaker 1: left in the first half of the concussion yesterday, So
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. Caroline is at Cleveland. So
Speaker 1: last week I said it should be three at Tampa,
Speaker 1: you said it was three and a half. I'll say
Speaker 1: this is Carolina minus two and a half as Cleveland
Speaker 1: Carolina one. And I believe Cleveland will get plenty of
Speaker 1: play here. Do you think Cleveland ends up is the favorite?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Would be a quick move. I
Speaker 1: said this last week. Caroline is so tough to put
Speaker 1: your money behind. They are. I mean, think about you,
Speaker 1: you met and get you hit it on the head.
Speaker 1: They were six and two at one point appeared to
Speaker 1: be playing extremely well. Um but they have not only
Speaker 1: have they lost four in a row, but they have
Speaker 1: found ways to to really hurt themselves. Cam Newton yesterday
Speaker 1: you mentioned that the three interceptions he's still taking and
Speaker 1: taking punishment still and you notice that they took him
Speaker 1: out of the game on the Hail Mary daylor Hanekey
Speaker 1: came in the game to throw it, which also tells
Speaker 1: you that something's up with his arm. Done of the
Speaker 1: strength to get it down field. It felt more comfortable
Speaker 1: with the backup. Good point, We'll come back, We'll guess
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Speaker 1: Here we go. The Atlanta Falcons man a lost season
Speaker 1: against another lost season, the Green Bay Packers game in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Atlantis four and eight Green Bay now four
Speaker 1: seven and one. We talked about the Falcons having lost
Speaker 1: to the um Ravens yesterday Atlanta thirty four yards rushing
Speaker 1: nineties seven yards passing Geez thirty four yards on fifteen carries,
Speaker 1: by the way for Matt Ryan, the fewest passing yards
Speaker 1: in a game he's played from start to finish in
Speaker 1: his eleven year career. Fourth straight loss for the Falcons,
Speaker 1: thousands of empty seats at Mercedes Been Stadium yesterday, plenty
Speaker 1: of blues, a booze rather and blues with the clock
Speaker 1: winding down. And then the Packers famously yesterday losing outright
Speaker 1: as fourteen point favorites against the Cardinals, and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: cost him his job. Some might say finally, some might
Speaker 1: say at last, Packers lose at twent to seventeen as
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point closing favorites here at the
Speaker 1: South Point Hotel Casino. But Mark Murphy says in a
Speaker 1: statement after the game, the season has not lived up
Speaker 1: to the expectations and standards of the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: As a result, I made the difficult decision to relieve
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy of his role as head coach, effective immediately.
Speaker 1: Green Bay has lost three straight and five of six.
Speaker 1: They were three for fourteen on third downs. I will
Speaker 1: say green Bay despite that, remember last week, getting back
Speaker 1: to last week, I guess ten. You said it was fourteen.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that either. I'll say green Bay minus
Speaker 1: four and a half. Here green Bay six tackers six.
Speaker 1: I just think that's a new look. I guess it
Speaker 1: just seems high. It shouldn't be six point favorites against
Speaker 1: anybody right now, and it is. I give you that.
Speaker 1: I grant you that. But you know, Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: not that is not on all cylinders either. No, he's
Speaker 1: not good. Point gil Um the probably the most important
Speaker 1: player to a number that as we've talked about for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But he is, uh, he's not.
Speaker 1: Only he's obviously the knee is is not not. But Um,
Speaker 1: you don't get When I moved to San Francisco years
Speaker 1: and years ago, they had just come off like twenty
Speaker 1: one years of Hall of Fame quarterback and Joe Montana
Speaker 1: followed by Steve Young. They won five Super Bowls, and
Speaker 1: remember wh Jeff Garcia was the quarterback there by the way,
Speaker 1: Jeff Garcia, who only went to three Pro Bowls with
Speaker 1: the Niners. Right, Nighters fans were so spoiled, they're like
Speaker 1: always terrible. I'm like, please give me, give me. Jeff Garcia, right,
Speaker 1: they've had this in in Green Bay now, Bret Farve
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, they've won exactly two super At some
Speaker 1: point you gotta make a chance. I get at the
Speaker 1: timing bothers people, but man, this is long overdue, long overdue.
Speaker 1: And and me and Lombardi and I'm sure other people
Speaker 1: on there we have talked about. Now. Aaron Rodgers looks
Speaker 1: like he hates Mike McCarthy. His body language does so
Speaker 1: you say six here, six or six, let's do one more.
Speaker 1: In his birthday yesterday, who's Mike McCarthy's, No, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: So there's a little present for management. Maybe maybe there's
Speaker 1: a rebound spot Gil the Saints in Tampa to play
Speaker 1: the box Saints with the extra rest off their debacle.
Speaker 1: I love that, love that word. At Dallas Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: with the win over Carolina. Drew Brees, by the way,
Speaker 1: last Thursday night, I just want to repeat the Drew
Speaker 1: Brees stats because they're so off the board outlying. He
Speaker 1: was eighteen of twenty eight for one twenty seven against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the Saints thirteen to ten outright lost
Speaker 1: last Thursday night for a hundred twenty seven yards. I said,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick, hundred seventy six total yards for
Speaker 1: the Saints. In that game. The Saints had a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy six total yards against the Cowboys. They were
Speaker 1: three for eleven on third downs jamis yesterday for the
Speaker 1: Bucks twenty of thirty for two forty nine, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, five carries, forty eight Chris Godwin five catches.
Speaker 1: Want I wanted to touchdown New Orleans by seven on
Speaker 1: the road, I'll say it'll be the exact same spread
Speaker 1: it was against the Cowboys here at Tampa. Saints eight
Speaker 1: over seven better than a touchdown. Okay, I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I know that's off the number. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by that. Um because one more thing
Speaker 1: about the Mike McCarthy thing too. Actually, I don't know
Speaker 1: what else I wanted to say about it other than
Speaker 1: we mentioned. I talked with Mike Lombardi about this last Tuesday,
Speaker 1: which is, I think this is gonna be the strange
Speaker 1: year where the worst teams in the league, the group
Speaker 1: of worst teams all end up keeping their coaches right
Speaker 1: because the Niners aren't gonna fire Shanahan, the Raiders aren't
Speaker 1: gonna fire Gruden. All these different circumstances at the bottom
Speaker 1: where guys are first year coaches, Schermer with the Giants, um,
Speaker 1: you name it. But I think it's these mid tier guys.
Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles will go with the Jets, but
Speaker 1: I think McCarthy we mentioned, was the first to go.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera's job very much in jeopardy. John Harball, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson might be saving his job. But there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of guys sort of made just above that bottom
Speaker 1: group that could That's a good point. Bottom group find rebuildings.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it's a good point. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: an interesting offseason in the National Football League, for sure.
Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch more games to get to.
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Speaker 1: Chrissy Anders Chrissy listening to this show and critiquing I'm
Speaker 1: sure every word that we're saying here. No, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: ever do that. No waiting for me to talk about
Speaker 1: a teasers. I'm sure, And it should be pointed out again.
Speaker 1: People should know, uh, teasers, teasers unless you teased properly,
Speaker 1: this week didn't go well for you, by and large
Speaker 1: in the NFL's properly. Yes, many next game, What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? What are you gonna do with this game?
Speaker 1: Teaser wise? The Jets and Buffalo to play the Bills
Speaker 1: oh Man three and nine, Jets four at eight Bills.
Speaker 1: The Jets, as we pointed out, snatching defeat from the
Speaker 1: jaws of victory against the Titans yesterday. Josh McCown seventeen
Speaker 1: of thirty for one eight, no touchdowns, one pick, sack twice.
Speaker 1: Jets were eleven, had eleven penalties for nineties six yards.
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls after the game quote, dumb mistakes a dumb
Speaker 1: times cost his ball games and that's why we're in
Speaker 1: the position we're in. Oh boy, that's not goods again.
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls Lifetime Pass Redskins Super Bowl champion Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: intercepted Josh McCown's passed with twenty one seconds left to
Speaker 1: seal Tennessee's winning the Jets collapse. New York now has
Speaker 1: lost sixth straight. Todd Bowles is fuming Jets had not
Speaker 1: forced to turn over in five straight games. Uh they
Speaker 1: did here. They sacked mariot To three times. They got
Speaker 1: production the Jets did across the board on special teams.
Speaker 1: They blocked a punt to set up a field goal.
Speaker 1: They blocked an extra point attempt inside the final end
Speaker 1: of the first half. They had a sixty one yard
Speaker 1: kickoff return. None of it mattered in the end. Tennessee
Speaker 1: beat him Buffalo Bills. They end up losing to the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Man that last pass from Josh Allen Charles Clay and
Speaker 1: Charles couldn't wrangling. It was short, I get it, and
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a duck, but man, there
Speaker 1: was no one around him. Bill's battling Bill's battle at
Speaker 1: four and eight. We feel good about the Bills, no one,
Speaker 1: because we all should apologize to Josh Allen. Maybe not
Speaker 1: all of us any if you're looking like you shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but I mean maybe some of us. H Allen, we're
Speaker 1: killing Josh Allen. It's not just him. That's a dog
Speaker 1: that James, you know, I mean, you know, I made
Speaker 1: the whole team a dog in these games, you know,
Speaker 1: except this one. You know that I'm just saying some
Speaker 1: of us might have said he couldn't. He wasn't accurate
Speaker 1: that Wyoming. He's not gonna be accurate in the NFL
Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty three for two thirty one, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks, sack twice, but nine carries for one thirty five. Like,
Speaker 1: we gotta start thinking of Josh Allen as this guy
Speaker 1: who can tuck it under and get it done. He's
Speaker 1: doing it multiple games now. But you certainly don't want
Speaker 1: your quarterback to be your leading Russia either. You don't
Speaker 1: not not in a long term. You don't that, say Jones.
Speaker 1: By the way, four catches sixty seven but two touchdowns
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Yesterday, the Bills out gained the Dolphins
Speaker 1: in total yards four fifteen to one seventy five and
Speaker 1: lose it one to seventeen. Dolphins cover the closing number
Speaker 1: here at the south point three and a half. This
Speaker 1: was a total game depended when did you get the
Speaker 1: what number did you get it at? When did you
Speaker 1: bet this super contest? Bills betters were the winners because
Speaker 1: it was four and a half if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: But four fifteen seventy five and total yards but three
Speaker 1: turnovers for the Bills minus two in turnover margin thirteen
Speaker 1: penalties for a hundred twenty yards. Is that Buffalo? This
Speaker 1: is in Buffalo? Yeah, Bills minus four, Bills three and
Speaker 1: a half. Good right there. These are kind of easy
Speaker 1: though this week, so it'll min it'll probably get there. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be support for the Bills here. All right.
Speaker 1: What a lot of division games, so that's no real
Speaker 1: surprise here as we get into the final month of
Speaker 1: the season. Patriots in Miami to play the Dolphins. So
Speaker 1: just like the a f C South, the a f
Speaker 1: C East involved with each other, Patriots of the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Patriots now nine and three after be eating the Vikings
Speaker 1: yesterday and covering the Dolphins, as we just mentioned, get
Speaker 1: by the Bills. Dolphins are six and six? How are
Speaker 1: the Dolphins still alive? Nobody talking about the Dolphins? By
Speaker 1: the way, did Jake Cutler beat the Patriots in Miami
Speaker 1: last year? Did Jay Cutler beat him? Jake Cutler was
Speaker 1: a Dolphin? Yeah? Last year? Did the Dolphins Dolphins game that.
Speaker 1: I don't think color was a quarterback in the I'll
Speaker 1: have to look, I'll check. I wouldn't bet against that.
Speaker 1: He's very cavalry. Just want to point that out, but anyway,
Speaker 1: and he was just thinking back this Michael uh Tom
Speaker 1: Brady yesterday four of thirty two for three eleven, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, no sacks, four hundred and seventy one total
Speaker 1: yards of offense for the Patriots. Bill Belichick earning his
Speaker 1: two fiftieth victory including playoffs as the Patriots coach, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots won eight of nine and starting the season
Speaker 1: one and two. This game was in the was it
Speaker 1: the third quarter? Late third, early fourth? And then the
Speaker 1: Patriots just went Patriot. Belichick improved to sixty five and
Speaker 1: thirteen in December straight up. Brady's fifty nine and eleven
Speaker 1: straight up in December both our NFL records for the
Speaker 1: most wins during that month for a coach and a player.
Speaker 1: Patriots have clinched now their eighteen straight winning season, second
Speaker 1: longest streak in NFL history. The Cowboys had twenty seasons
Speaker 1: between sixty six and eighty five, the only longer streak.
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady, for those who missed it, reached another
Speaker 1: milestone one thousand yards rushing in his career. It took
Speaker 1: him nineteen years and two hundred and sixty five games.
Speaker 1: Twenty of Patriot fans in Miami for this game, so
Speaker 1: it reads the one thousand yard milestone. Most of my
Speaker 1: players since the merger, and Vinny was correct. It was
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler who who beat who beat them down in Miami?
Speaker 1: Vinny Matt Moore was two weeks before when they played
Speaker 1: Mark one up for Vinny. I knew you'd run into
Speaker 1: one eventually. I'm kidding, I'm choking. Twice said don't bet
Speaker 1: against the refined print boys. Yeah. I tessed with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's rushing numbers. Guys, just give you one more. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady has averaged one point seven yards per carrying his career,
Speaker 1: three point eight three point eight yards per game. His
Speaker 1: most prolific rushing season two thousand two, when he ran
Speaker 1: for a total of ten yards. Okay, I'm done. Uh
Speaker 1: it is Ryan Tannehill now who center for the Adolphins.
Speaker 1: He's sixteen of twenty four for one thirty seven yesterday
Speaker 1: in victory, three touchdowns, one picksack, three times, sixty total
Speaker 1: rushing yards for the Dolphins. The Patriots will be seven
Speaker 1: and a hook on the road against the Dolphins eight
Speaker 1: on the opener. Here at the saw point, Man, I
Speaker 1: am on fire. You are which sucks? Because I'd like
Speaker 1: to have some value somewhere. Let's keep working. Let's move
Speaker 1: on the Rams at the Bear. Oh wait, this is
Speaker 1: a flex game, so she want to do that later? Yes? Please, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll do that later. The Giants at the Redskins. Sight
Speaker 1: unseen on the Redskins tonight, Chris Thompson bat, Maybe Jamison
Speaker 1: Crowder come on, skin needs it's big. Skins trying to
Speaker 1: keep pace with the Cowboys, Eagles trying to stay relevant tonight,
Speaker 1: but sight unseen with the Skins. It'll be the Giants
Speaker 1: at the Redskins. I'm gonna just say. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Redskins by three right off the bat. Sight unseen. Obviously,
Speaker 1: what happens tonight could alter that. If Colt McCoy goes
Speaker 1: down and the Redskins simply don't have a quarterback at
Speaker 1: at that point, that would change things. For instance, God forbid,
Speaker 1: sa Kwon Barkley. Yesterday, Giants beat the Bears thirty to
Speaker 1: twenty seven in overtime, and man did they almost blow
Speaker 1: this game? Uh? Se kwon Barkley again. Twenty four carries
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty five yards. O'Dell Beckham Jr. Caught a
Speaker 1: touchdown pass through a touchdown pass. Giants, though, gotta clean
Speaker 1: up the penalties twelve penalties a hundred seven yards. Giants
Speaker 1: blew a ten point lead in the final one minute
Speaker 1: and thirteen seconds of this game. Aldric Rosa's kicking a
Speaker 1: forty four yard field go on ot eventually for the
Speaker 1: what eventually became the thirty to twenty seven win for
Speaker 1: the Giants snapped the Bears five game winning streak. Rosas,
Speaker 1: by the way, kicked the off the seven yard field
Speaker 1: goal on the final player, the first half longest field
Speaker 1: goal in Giants history. New York has won three of
Speaker 1: four since it's by Week didn't nail down the wind
Speaker 1: until Generora's Jenkins knocked away a deep fourth down past
Speaker 1: the Taylor Gabriel after Chase Daniel had fumbled on consecutive
Speaker 1: plays on that final drive to set up a fourth
Speaker 1: and age. By the way that the Bears had three fumbles,
Speaker 1: I believe on that final drive that they recovered didn't
Speaker 1: work out for them in the end season five sacks
Speaker 1: for for Chase Daniel. How many fourth down conversions of
Speaker 1: the Bears have yesterday fourth down conversion will have to
Speaker 1: look at him at least four or more. Um, you
Speaker 1: mentioned it four or five? Um. They were down ten
Speaker 1: field goal recover the onside kick fourth and goal to
Speaker 1: tie the game on a on a play that I
Speaker 1: think every Bear on the field touched the ball. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the Bears. We'll get to the Bears perspective
Speaker 1: on that soon. Yes, but the Bears, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel first of all, converted a fourth and long
Speaker 1: to Tariko and on that drive, and then yes, the
Speaker 1: final play fourth and goal which Tarrico and ended up
Speaker 1: throwing creation. But the Skins Skins by three is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying here. Giants at Skins to the Bears, Uh,
Speaker 1: Skins by three sight unseen. They'll probably get there opened
Speaker 1: one and a half. Come on, Just to go back
Speaker 1: to that Bears Giants game, the Bears were four for
Speaker 1: five on fourth down in the game at that the
Speaker 1: teams come abind to go six for seven. The Giants
Speaker 1: were for seven fourth down conversion. You know, it scares
Speaker 1: me about that I have box score memory that I
Speaker 1: was able to come up with four for five in
Speaker 1: my head, excellent. That should really I thought there would
Speaker 1: be uh emotionally spent after the last week's loss Um
Speaker 1: Giants Hills. Broncos are sort of feel good right at
Speaker 1: this point. Broncos are six and six like they're in it. Well,
Speaker 1: they're in it, and their schedules very favorite. They go
Speaker 1: nine and seven. They're very favorable schedule the Broncos. Who
Speaker 1: will finish with a better record this year? Case Keenum
Speaker 1: with the Broncos or Kirk Cousins with the Vikings. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. That's a good it's a good one. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: let's do one more. All right, We've got the speaking
Speaker 1: of the Broncos in San Francisco. There's one of them,
Speaker 1: six and six Broncos too, and ten niners Philip Lindsay
Speaker 1: five ft eight inch Philip Lindsay nineteen carries for one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven yards career best two touchdowns. Yesterday
Speaker 1: for the Broncos. It was windy, and the Broncos basically
Speaker 1: said against the Bengals, Broncos went to ten easily covers,
Speaker 1: four point favorites. They're like, look is windy, Philip? You
Speaker 1: ready for this? You and your five ft eight inch frame?
Speaker 1: And Philip was like, yeah, I'll go for one seven.
Speaker 1: That's what he did. Broncos since they're bye week, Vinnie.
Speaker 1: They beat in the Chargers, the Steelers and the Bengals
Speaker 1: sixty six degrees at kickoff, but really windy wind gust
Speaker 1: up to forty miles per hour yesterday, redirected kicks and throws.
Speaker 1: His nickname Lindsay's pit Bull, undrafted rookie out of Colorado,
Speaker 1: uh and is the first undrafted rookie and Bronco's history
Speaker 1: to top a thousand combined yards rushing and receiving. Denver
Speaker 1: was up twenty one to three in this game. Of
Speaker 1: the third quarter, Katie bar the door at that point.
Speaker 1: Used to say, Katie bar the door when you're a kidmntee, No,
Speaker 1: but either did I relatives, but it's a little some
Speaker 1: of your southern relatives. Quarterback Chris Harris Junior, by the way,
Speaker 1: broke his lower right leg in the first quarters. That's
Speaker 1: bad news for the Broncos there San Francisco. I guess
Speaker 1: we should mention the Niners got crushed by the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Mullins Nick Mullins thirty forty four fourteen didn't matter, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick. It's all cosmetic sact three times. Dante Pettis
Speaker 1: five catches a twenty nine yards, two touchdowns actually out
Speaker 1: gained the Seahawks three thirty one, but three turnovers minus
Speaker 1: the three turnover margin. You know how that goes. And
Speaker 1: thirteen penalties for a hundred twenty eight yards. Let's flash
Speaker 1: that up one more time, guys, Seahawks. How's the how's
Speaker 1: the Niners? Seahawks? We'll get to them. So efficient Seahawks
Speaker 1: beating forty three to sixteen West two teams in football,
Speaker 1: the two teams in the Bay, sorry, Bay Raiders and Niners. Uh.
Speaker 1: Denver's at San Francisco, Denver in San Francis. Okay, So
Speaker 1: this is actually an interesting line to make because three
Speaker 1: would be too few, and seven I think would be
Speaker 1: too many because the Broncos shouldn't be seven point favorites
Speaker 1: on the road against anybody. Sorry, So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the no man's land. I'll say Denver minus. I'll
Speaker 1: just throw out at number five, five and a half.
Speaker 1: You're right there, same number basically, dude. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you. If you're just tuning in the guessing lines
Speaker 1: and you think I'm this good, trust me. You missed
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I'm really not. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was way off like couple the last two weeks. Let's
Speaker 1: do another. There you go, speaking of the Bengals, Let's
Speaker 1: see how this works in Los Angeles to play the
Speaker 1: Chargers the Charge I'm very impressive last night in the
Speaker 1: second half, so your boy, that would be me. I
Speaker 1: don't know got into me Saturday night, but I saw
Speaker 1: that the Chargers were plus seven ten in a far
Speaker 1: away place to win the a f C. So I
Speaker 1: grabbed it, even knowing to myself, well, if the Charges
Speaker 1: they were not gonna win their division, probably so even
Speaker 1: if I'm getting this plus seven ten, it's probably not
Speaker 1: as good as rolling over money lines on their three
Speaker 1: playoff games that were required to win the a f C.
Speaker 1: But I had this thinking suspicion that will never see
Speaker 1: the plus seven ten again, so I grabbed it, and
Speaker 1: boy did that turn out to be a pretty fruitful move.
Speaker 1: After the Chargers come from behind to beat the Steelers yesterday,
Speaker 1: we'll get to them in a minute. First of all,
Speaker 1: the Bengals, can we just do a PostScript on them
Speaker 1: for a second? A J. Green one catch seven yards
Speaker 1: toe injury, had to leave. We won't see him again
Speaker 1: in That was his first game back, first game almost
Speaker 1: a month. First going back, sure was he uh reinjured
Speaker 1: the foot will running a route and came off the
Speaker 1: field for perhaps the last time this season. He returned
Speaker 1: after missing three games with an injured tow on his
Speaker 1: right foot, hoping to give the Bengals offense lift. But
Speaker 1: I didn't get through a quarter or actually only lasted
Speaker 1: one quarter. Bengals sixth loss in seven games. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's another coach, Marvin. Marvin Lewis mid tier team forty
Speaker 1: four thousand, three nine two, smallest at Paul Brown Stadiums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis could be gone because their defense is just
Speaker 1: getting destroyed. Jeff Driscoll first NFL start, two thirty six touchdown,
Speaker 1: picked fumble, four sax um Cincinnati eight penalties in the
Speaker 1: first half, twelve hundred for the game, eight in the
Speaker 1: first half. It's most in an opening half since two
Speaker 1: thousand nine. But the Chargers last night, this is the
Speaker 1: game that got most people. Pittsburgh was favored by three
Speaker 1: three and a half, depending on where you got it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, always shop, Always pick your spot
Speaker 1: when you get the best number closed here at the
Speaker 1: south point is three and at three and a half
Speaker 1: Steelers led this game by sixteen, couldn't hold on to
Speaker 1: seven and a half. They had not lost a home game.
Speaker 1: They showed the graphic um when up by fourteen points
Speaker 1: or more in the second half. I believe I have
Speaker 1: that statistics. The Steelers had been one seventy four oh
Speaker 1: in one went up by that much at home. One.
Speaker 1: And there's the Greek. Uh. The Greek with the tweet
Speaker 1: they said before tonight the Steelers had never lost the
Speaker 1: game at home where they had led by fourteen plus points.
Speaker 1: They were two twenty o and two. That's according to
Speaker 1: the Greek. The one they flashed up was that the
Speaker 1: Steelers had been won seventy four oh and one went
Speaker 1: up by that much at home. Either way, you get
Speaker 1: the idea. But anyway, the Chargers overcame that. Philip rivers
Speaker 1: twenty six and thirty six for two ninety nine two
Speaker 1: touchdowns note picks sack twice. Philip Brera's sneaky m VP candidate,
Speaker 1: sneaky diggy Keenan Allen all over the place last night
Speaker 1: at a cow fourteen catches for one forty eight in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. No Melvin Gordon, No, he still got a
Speaker 1: springed m cl Here's the thing. Austin Ekeler wasn't getting
Speaker 1: it done. They brought in Justin Jackson yesterday. He was
Speaker 1: really good, eight for sixty three in a touchdown. Charges
Speaker 1: were six for eleven on third downs. Rivers drove the
Speaker 1: charge of sixty four yards in eleven place to set
Speaker 1: up Michael Michael Basiley's twenty nine yard field on the
Speaker 1: final snap thirty three the thirty win for the charges.
Speaker 1: I laughed because obviously if you saw that final sequence,
Speaker 1: Badgeley's initial thirty nine yard attempt excuse me, sales wide left,
Speaker 1: Steelers will call for off side. Then Basiley's ensuing thirty
Speaker 1: four yard attempt was blocked Pittsburgh offside and then twenty
Speaker 1: nine yard or the Steelers were so far offside that
Speaker 1: the flew by him and he kicked in. The winning
Speaker 1: was behind the potential blogs. The most basic highlight a
Speaker 1: guy it's reaching back to try to block the kid
Speaker 1: because he was so far off. You ever do that
Speaker 1: as a kid, though, you had like this thing where
Speaker 1: like today we're gonna we're gonna practice blocking kicks like
Speaker 1: you do it with you when you're a kid. You're like,
Speaker 1: I literally what this feels like and you would like
Speaker 1: miss timon and jump right through it. There was a
Speaker 1: shot of Ben Hothlisberger and you could read his lips
Speaker 1: saying we're off sides again. Again. Didn't matter to seven
Speaker 1: at a half. By the way, Desmond King also with
Speaker 1: a seventy three yard punt returned for a score. The
Speaker 1: Charges were down thirteen to nothing in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Um and then for the second time this season, the
Speaker 1: Chargers had a thing where one of their offensive linement
Speaker 1: was clearly false starting. The refs didn't call it. Rivers
Speaker 1: to Travis Benjamin. That's how the Charges got on the board.
Speaker 1: You will remember there was that game against the Browns
Speaker 1: where the Chargers were clearly UH, that was clearly a
Speaker 1: false start in that game, it was it was Sam
Speaker 1: Tevy yesterday, I want to say it was it was
Speaker 1: o Kung. Yeah, it was Russell Okung in that game
Speaker 1: against the Browns and UH. Rivers hit Terrell Williams in
Speaker 1: that game, and that cost the reff in that Browns
Speaker 1: game for missing that false start. That cost somebody's job.
Speaker 1: After that one, Chargers do it again. It's like Jedi
Speaker 1: mind tricking. The refs do not call this what you
Speaker 1: see is not actually happening. Chargers, get it done. Chargers. Now,
Speaker 1: what are the Charges now? Nine and three? Is that
Speaker 1: their record? I don't have that. Chargers definitely looking like
Speaker 1: they are playoff team and it will be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what because here's the thing in the a f C,
Speaker 1: nobody's dominant. The Kareem Hunt thing is big. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: back to the pack for sure. Chargers again hosting the Bengals.
Speaker 1: They are hosting Los Angeles because it's stub Hub Center.
Speaker 1: Remember it's not a stadium, it's not an arena, it's
Speaker 1: a center. But here's the thing. The Chargers are one
Speaker 1: of these teams where you say, oh, well, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be on the road in the playoffs. They don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care. They're on the road every week. They
Speaker 1: don't care. My buddy was telling me that he his
Speaker 1: brother is a ticket broker there in southern California, so
Speaker 1: they have You cannot give away Chargers tickets to this
Speaker 1: game against the Bengals. You cannot give them away. Although
Speaker 1: this will be a game where there may be there
Speaker 1: should be more Charger fans than Bengal fans. Les fans
Speaker 1: will not travel. Chargers by thirteen fourteen and a half,
Speaker 1: I undershot it. Yeah, I guess I would say this
Speaker 1: will be fourteen in the end, m because because the old,
Speaker 1: the old sharp community, right, the old vague sharp community
Speaker 1: will take the Bengals probably here and knock it down
Speaker 1: to fourteen fourteen, and then every teaser will be on
Speaker 1: the chargers, you know, the old tease from Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I should say public teasers, the public teachers. Well I will.
Speaker 1: I will not tell them not to alright, because because
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I how I feel about
Speaker 1: this these days. Ready, now, let's take a break. Alright.
Speaker 1: How many more games we got, Vinnie? We've got one
Speaker 1: to three? Um? We got the four five games including
Speaker 1: Monday night. Okay, we're on schedule. Yes, sorry, we're on schedule.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the break here. Just a review real quick,
Speaker 1: not a lot, you know how like by this point
Speaker 1: last week and the week before, we had definitely I
Speaker 1: don't remember one game being outraged by so far. This
Speaker 1: not outraged, No, was the biggest last week was outrage.
Speaker 1: Oh I was outraged. Oh. Ever, the only thing that
Speaker 1: here that that stuck out to me was that you
Speaker 1: had what was the one well, the Panthers, Green Bay
Speaker 1: by six over and Green Bay. Uh we opened six
Speaker 1: h sitting now at you hit four and a half? Again?
Speaker 1: Am I rushing to bet the Falcons? Not exactly? No,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll do more guests lines week fourteen right
Speaker 1: here on a numbers game at Feasta. Back to a
Speaker 1: numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from
Speaker 1: our visa in studios in Las Vegas. For those of
Speaker 1: who don't know, Vinny Molilo is an acrobat in and
Speaker 1: out of studio in the break like nothing ever happened,
Speaker 1: Ready to go, never left, never left. We're just talking
Speaker 1: to all fairly. You know, I haven't seen Brent or
Speaker 1: Jimmy in months because we do the shift here in
Speaker 1: the morning. I've never seen them anymore, and I missed
Speaker 1: them dearly. Well, they're listening, and I'm sure that they'll
Speaker 1: respond accordingly. That's sort of point that because we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. Brett Lawson is before a producer. We were
Speaker 1: talking like what was your favorite memory of the U
Speaker 1: of your time producing this show, and so we were
Speaker 1: talking about some of the asked Jimmy things we didn't
Speaker 1: now you have asked Vinny on the New York Post.
Speaker 1: How's that going. It's good. It's a lot of fun. Hey, Vinny, Ny,
Speaker 1: why might be kidding me? Oh yeah, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: question so far? Anyways? Asked you. Well, some of them
Speaker 1: sports betting related. Well, yeah, sports betting with some of them.
Speaker 1: He just you know, I had had one where unfortunately
Speaker 1: the individual needed more than Vinnie. He needed a little
Speaker 1: more psychiatrist, priest by and a good bartender sports betting.
Speaker 1: I'm you suggesting that people sometimes need more than it
Speaker 1: was great, was Actually it was pretty funny question, Vinnie.
Speaker 1: My wife's breaking my stones constantly, my daughter married a loser,
Speaker 1: and my son won't get a job. I need to
Speaker 1: win a bed. That's great. You know you need motive, Vindie,
Speaker 1: you need more than video. But actually they're good. They're good.
Speaker 1: The questions are good because a lot of them. One
Speaker 1: last week was about somebody who did not follow college
Speaker 1: basketball till uh March until March madness. Yeah, And I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know what pros typically do is start to follow
Speaker 1: it now, particularly pay attention to teams that play a
Speaker 1: very tough non conference schedule in advance, team like stony Brook,
Speaker 1: which has gone to far away places including having South
Speaker 1: Carolina to play and win, and uh so you know
Speaker 1: you want to you want to try to garner some
Speaker 1: intel an advance of conference play and just don't wait
Speaker 1: till uh march man. It still doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: have to wait bet on it right now, but at
Speaker 1: least start getting a feel for teams up styles and
Speaker 1: who's got you know, because we allways wetent time to
Speaker 1: talk about the one one and dunes. There are teams
Speaker 1: out there that are very experienced at this Buffalo team.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a terrific team and a veteran team. When
Speaker 1: you say veteran team in college, well, yeah, juniors anymore
Speaker 1: or veterans compared to a lot of one and donors Buffalo,
Speaker 1: which had itself a heck of a football season, and
Speaker 1: it goes so well this past weekend. Think about it.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is Buffalo at the end, even though they've now
Speaker 1: Louisville has started surprising well in basketball, But Buffalo, uh
Speaker 1: come bind in football and basketball is gonna be better
Speaker 1: than Louisville and football and basketball, asked Vinnie in the
Speaker 1: New York Post and in Point Spread Weekly, Right, but yes,
Speaker 1: Bill puts it in. There's well Bill eight yeah. Uh
Speaker 1: and speaking of college basketball on on a Numbers game
Speaker 1: this Wednesday, you're ready to you ready to live on
Speaker 1: the edge. I'm looking so so forward to this and
Speaker 1: honor to have him on the show. You're ready have Anny.
Speaker 1: I'm about to say, Alan Boston on the show this Wednesday,
Speaker 1: outstanding college basketball mind. And you know what, the college
Speaker 1: basketball pick sportion is probably the thing I'm least interested
Speaker 1: in talking to him about. Okay, Well, he's gonna just
Speaker 1: want to hear him rant. That's all I want. I
Speaker 1: just wanted his thoughts. I want you know why. He's
Speaker 1: the truth. I like the truth. He'll give you his thoughts.
Speaker 1: All right, well said Vinnie. All right, let's continue guessing lines.
Speaker 1: Here we go the Lions in Arizona to play the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: where there are a lot of crappy games this weekend.
Speaker 1: I just say, perspective. Forget the betting, maybe from well
Speaker 1: from a betting side, though you can always make money
Speaker 1: those complete opposite, right, I mean, there's something you'll find
Speaker 1: something as I As I said during baseball season, so
Speaker 1: often you are not required to watch this National Football
Speaker 1: League game? How many times you say at baseball you're
Speaker 1: not required watch this baseball game, Detroit's at Arizona. Detroit
Speaker 1: at Arizona. Detroit loses to the Rams yesterday. Can I
Speaker 1: say this about the Ram. We'll get to the Rams momentarily,
Speaker 1: but the Rams have some some less than inspiring road performances.
Speaker 1: I will say that Rams beat the Lions in the
Speaker 1: end thirty to sixteen. They cover as tenant a half
Speaker 1: point spread, as tenant a point favorites. We'll get to
Speaker 1: the Todd Gurle angle when we talk about the Rams.
Speaker 1: But Detroit falls to four and eight. Matthew Stafford thirty three,
Speaker 1: two forty five, one touchdown, one pick, sacked four times.
Speaker 1: Lions have lost five of six since they had a
Speaker 1: winning record in late October. They an't winning record right
Speaker 1: around Halloween. It's usually the other way around with the Lions,
Speaker 1: right they start off poorly and then finish right, finished stronger.
Speaker 1: Detroit's d held the Rams offense and check for about
Speaker 1: three quarters and then not so much. And then there's Arizona,
Speaker 1: who beat the Packers outright as fourteen point dogs thirteen
Speaker 1: and a half point closing dogs here at the south Point.
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen chosen Rosen not Beyondica. Josh eleven of twenty
Speaker 1: six for one forty nine, no touchdowns, doe pick, sack
Speaker 1: two times. Zane Gonzalez kicked a forty four yard field
Speaker 1: goal with one forty one left. Mason Crosby then missed
Speaker 1: the forty nine yard or as time expired. Cardinals braving
Speaker 1: the wintry conditions twenty to seventeen win A. Gonzalez just
Speaker 1: joined the team this past week after Phil Dawson was
Speaker 1: placed on I R. And the Cardinals with a patchwork
Speaker 1: offensive line Josh Rose and I will tell you this.
Speaker 1: The stats never look good, and he doesn't look good
Speaker 1: for most of a game, but man, he has his moments.
Speaker 1: And he hit Larry Fitzgerald for thirty two yard catch
Speaker 1: on third and twenty three on that last drive to
Speaker 1: set up gonzalez winning kick. Uh Dean Lowry, by the way,
Speaker 1: sacked Rosen on first down on that sequence. Then Rosen
Speaker 1: through an in completion on second and eighteen following a
Speaker 1: botch snap, and that's when he hit Fitzgerald and the
Speaker 1: rest is history. Um Detroit by two and a half
Speaker 1: on the road spot on Is that right? Wow? I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be way off on that two
Speaker 1: and a half buddy, you're at the some point. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: Now the um the Eagles obviously play tonight, we know,
Speaker 1: but still at the Cowboys next week. So NFC's doing
Speaker 1: that thing too. Philadelphias at Dallas, Philadelphia at Dallas, the
Speaker 1: first place Cowboys. So if Philly wins tonight, this will
Speaker 1: be a game between the six and six Eagles and
Speaker 1: the seven and five Cowboys. That will have big time implications.
Speaker 1: Huge implication. He goes lose tonight, not so much though
Speaker 1: it would for the Redskins obviously looking in Dallas. That
Speaker 1: should be pointed out. We should mention last Thursday night
Speaker 1: against the Saints, once again rediscovering Zeke Galliott twenty three carries,
Speaker 1: seventy six yards, six catches sixty yards, and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Cowboys had the ball for thirty six minutes and fifty
Speaker 1: three seconds of that game against the Saints. I'll say,
Speaker 1: depending on what we see tonight, this could be anywhere
Speaker 1: between Dallas minus three or Dallas minus four, somewhere in
Speaker 1: that pocket. So what we haven't seen so I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be held to a I refuse to be
Speaker 1: held to a number. Okay, So if they open, it
Speaker 1: will look good it will be three. Okay. We opened
Speaker 1: it four and it was actually bit up two four
Speaker 1: and a half as as we speak really here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so okay, um do one more before we have one more.
Speaker 1: We have one more before the primetime game to the
Speaker 1: one more before the prime time. The Steelers go to
Speaker 1: Oakland to play the Raiders. Had us Steelers. Steelers lose
Speaker 1: to the Charges last night. We already covered it, and
Speaker 1: the Raiders lose to the Chiefs. But the Raiders got
Speaker 1: within three big ben yesterday and defeat against the Charges
Speaker 1: one two touchdowns, one, one pick sacked once Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: ten catches, one touchdown, Jalen Samuel's in for Connor there
Speaker 1: at the end to carries five yards but three catches
Speaker 1: for twenty in a touchdown, possible fantasy pickup, possible Um Connor,
Speaker 1: James Conner maybe he had a lower leg energy, don't
Speaker 1: lead the game. They think he's gonna be okay, though, Steelers,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned once, they had been one s oh
Speaker 1: and one went up by that much at home six points.
Speaker 1: Now Pittsburgh with four games left in the season, just
Speaker 1: a half game lead over Baltimore. They dropped two straight
Speaker 1: for the first time this season. Had no real answers
Speaker 1: for the Chargers in the second half. And here's their
Speaker 1: final month. The two of their four games in their
Speaker 1: final month are against New England and New Orleans. So
Speaker 1: the Steelers are in trouble. New England is in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and is the New Orleans game in New Orleans. Let
Speaker 1: me check on that. We'll check on that. Kelly Kelly
Speaker 1: bitin UH and then Oakland. As we mentioned, they lose
Speaker 1: the Saints, excuse me, lose to the Chiefs. But Derek
Speaker 1: Carr had a good game yesterday. Two from us cost
Speaker 1: the Raiders yesterday. It's funny how that happens. Three turnovers
Speaker 1: for the Raiders minus to turnover margin. Here's what John
Speaker 1: grew and I would like to quote John Gruden when
Speaker 1: the after Raiders games quote man talking about Patrick Mahomes. Now, Man,
Speaker 1: he ticked me off today. It's a credit to the
Speaker 1: guy made a third and fifteen play that was right
Speaker 1: on our sideline. I was outside myself and I was
Speaker 1: so upset some of the plays he made today. John.
Speaker 1: You know, if I closed my eyes, I could swear
Speaker 1: that Chucky was in studio, that that eyebrow raised. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a good facial imperson, not really
Speaker 1: a little shaky. Yeah. You know why because I get
Speaker 1: messed up with Jay Gruden, who I hear much more often.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and who I have even less respectful. Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: it is Steelers uh at New Orleans. Three fumbles for
Speaker 1: the Raiders led to three scores for the Chiefs. Reached
Speaker 1: double digit losses. The Raiders have reached double digit losses
Speaker 1: for the twelfth time in sixteen seasons, and yet they're
Speaker 1: like the most singular brand still in the NFL for
Speaker 1: some ridiculous reason. Scored thirty three points yesterday and lost
Speaker 1: and lost. Jered Cook had a good game, seven catches
Speaker 1: a hundred yards and teach. Raiders were great on third
Speaker 1: downs there were nine of twelve, but again, three turnovers
Speaker 1: led to three chief scores. That's all you need to know.
Speaker 1: Steelers are at Oakland. Steelers are at Oakland. Yes, my
Speaker 1: my Bay Area friends from Oakland who are Raiders fans,
Speaker 1: they have had it with this franchise. I just want
Speaker 1: to point that out. Pittsburgh, Okay, seven's too few, fourteens
Speaker 1: too many, because the Chiefs were fourteen ish, So if
Speaker 1: it were ten, would people bet the Steelers? They would
Speaker 1: ten and hook eleven and a half. Alright, no man's land,
Speaker 1: all right, the flexed, Well, don't do that. I listen.
Speaker 1: I know. I wish it were a podcast too, Vinnie. Hey,
Speaker 1: I come from that background as well. We have commercial.
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Speaker 1: had a recently Mom got you upset when you were
Speaker 1: five she did. I didn't. I didn't appreciate her tone,
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate her attitude. I thought, you is a little
Speaker 1: flipping about anyway. We have primetime games to get You
Speaker 1: have a primetime game on Sunday night, the game that's
Speaker 1: been flexed. The Rams at the Bears. Question what I
Speaker 1: think we'll see Dr Bisky though this week? Don't you?
Speaker 1: I do fleas all right? Rams at the Bears, the
Speaker 1: eleven and one l a Rams at the eight and
Speaker 1: four Bears yesterday, Jared Goff kind of you know me?
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions defense really held them in check seventeen
Speaker 1: of thirty three for two oh seven, one touchdown, one pick,
Speaker 1: sack two times. Robert Woods five catches, sixty seven and
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Todd Gurley, Oh, Todd Gurley twenty three carries
Speaker 1: for a hundred thirty two yards, and the Rams clinched
Speaker 1: the NFC West NFC West chance. They beat the Lines
Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen, covers ten and a half point, closing
Speaker 1: favorites here at the South Point, clinched the division title
Speaker 1: for a second straight season, take a one game lead
Speaker 1: over New Orleans. By the way, the race for the
Speaker 1: best record throughout the NFC Playoffs after New Orleans lost
Speaker 1: to Dallas. By the way, Sean McVeigh very awkward postgame
Speaker 1: celebration speech. If you want to sort of have an
Speaker 1: awkward moment, just you know how some guys like they're
Speaker 1: not raw raw guys. Yeah. One of the great NFL films,
Speaker 1: one of the most awkward NFL films things of all
Speaker 1: time was Joe Montana like giving a speech to Joe Montana,
Speaker 1: winner of four Super Bowls, for God's sakes, hall of famer,
Speaker 1: but not a Hall of Fame speech giver, not known
Speaker 1: for his personality. He was like, we're gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and and we're gonna we're gonna put ourselves together.
Speaker 1: You can see like all the all the teammates like
Speaker 1: looking at each other, like all right, Joe, just let's
Speaker 1: play the game. Or somebody else speak Joe, Joe, do
Speaker 1: what you do best. Sanially Aaron Donald yesterday for the Rams,
Speaker 1: by the way, two sacks and forced to fumble. Remember
Speaker 1: he did he did this against the Chiefs. To Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: this never happens, right, they don't give an m v
Speaker 1: P to an defensive player, but if they did, he's
Speaker 1: your guy. Defensive he won it last year. He won
Speaker 1: the Defensive Player of the Year last year. But again
Speaker 1: uh in this one, two sacks forced a fumble helps
Speaker 1: steal the win by forcing Matthew Stafford to fumble midway
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter. He had two strip sacks if
Speaker 1: you remember, in that fifty one win over k C
Speaker 1: NFL high sixteen and a half sacks through three quarters
Speaker 1: of the season. And once again Sampson epycam just like
Speaker 1: he did in that Chiefs game, he recovered one of
Speaker 1: Stafford's fumbles that Donald poked out of Stafford's hands at
Speaker 1: the Detroit Gurly scored on the thirtier thirteen yard run
Speaker 1: rather three steps later, giving the Rams a twenty three
Speaker 1: to thirteen lead. But Golf was not sharp through a
Speaker 1: pick on an overthrown pass in the second quarter, lost
Speaker 1: the fumble in third quarter. So here's the other one
Speaker 1: now that we got to talk about Todd Gurley yesterday, Vinny,
Speaker 1: remember in that Green Bay game, he correctly, on his
Speaker 1: way to the end zone decided to sit down at
Speaker 1: the one yard line, ensuring that Aaron Rodgers would never
Speaker 1: get on the field and have a chance to come
Speaker 1: back and win that game. Yesterday on the north side
Speaker 1: of the two minute warning if you will, girly herd down.
Speaker 1: Late in the game, he broke free and instead of
Speaker 1: going into the end zone, he immediately does a right
Speaker 1: angle to the right. It's ninety degrees by the way,
Speaker 1: tree folks, uh, and he just sort of tiptoes the
Speaker 1: sidelines and the side. You know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: waste some time. Think about Todd Gurley though for a second.
Speaker 1: Forget the betting implications of it, just from a selfless standpoint,
Speaker 1: that his head is that much in the game that
Speaker 1: at that moment he's like, in his brain, we can
Speaker 1: we can debate the merits of it in a minute,
Speaker 1: but in his brain he's like, this is a better
Speaker 1: way for us to win. This will maximize our chances
Speaker 1: to win. Good for him in control um cerebral right,
Speaker 1: you can say you could say a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I mean, betters will say different things then, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Todd gurls he dustined for coaching. Maybe Gurley does
Speaker 1: not care about your best fantasy team. You know, listen,
Speaker 1: he's he's an m VP candidate, but maybe not for
Speaker 1: not for all betters. He chose not to score ran
Speaker 1: more time off the clock force Detroit to take time outs. UM.
Speaker 1: After the game, Girly said, quote, I wanted to waste
Speaker 1: some time unquote, So I just wanted to waste some times.
Speaker 1: By the way, there was a play at the end
Speaker 1: of the Steel when the Chargers had to ball remember
Speaker 1: the running back get his name brand out of bounds
Speaker 1: because Steels could have they would have been forced to
Speaker 1: use their last out there on that last drive. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I worked out good for him, But I just a
Speaker 1: complete opposite of what you're describing with Todd Gurley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forced Detroit stake time outs proved to be a good move.
Speaker 1: Gurley ran for a two yard score anyway, with one
Speaker 1: fifty four left, lines were left with no time outs
Speaker 1: on their final drive. That drive ended with Troy Hill
Speaker 1: picking off a pass at the end zone with twelve
Speaker 1: seconds left. UM. Now, again, the Rams were favored by
Speaker 1: ten in the end or nine and a half somewhere
Speaker 1: in there, so that one from seven to fourteen. So
Speaker 1: when he didn't score that one, you know, Rams betters
Speaker 1: were just dying. And and again it was the right
Speaker 1: move against the Packers. It can be debated whether or
Speaker 1: not it was it will overkill in this game, because
Speaker 1: what's wrong with going up fourteen points for God's six?
Speaker 1: I get the sentiment, don't get me wrong, but you
Speaker 1: know I keep to lead back for the Rams, by
Speaker 1: the way, first time since going down with an ankle
Speaker 1: injury in Week three. And Brandon Cooks first player NFL
Speaker 1: history a thousand yards receiving three straight years, three different
Speaker 1: franchises New Orleans. He actually did twice with New Orleans
Speaker 1: New England Rams. How how does that happen? By the way,
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Cooks is so good and he has
Speaker 1: somehow been lucky enough to be traded to a better team,
Speaker 1: lucky every every time. I mean, I mean, right lucky?
Speaker 1: Or what is it about his game that people feel
Speaker 1: the need that weird? It's weird? Yeah, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: it's weird. Chase Daniel for the Bears yesterday twenty six,
Speaker 1: thirty nine in defeat against the Giants to eighty five,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, two picks sacked five times to Rake one
Speaker 1: for one through the air, game tying touchdown at the
Speaker 1: buzzer um on a trickeration play. Eight carries thirty yards,
Speaker 1: well catches one fifty six. Tarik Cohen Honorary Tribesman. Chicago
Speaker 1: forced overtime by getting a twenty one yard field go
Speaker 1: by Cody Parkey in a one yard touchdown again from
Speaker 1: Charike to Anthony Miller's time expired in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Trick played touchdown set up by a recovered onside kick
Speaker 1: by Daniel Brown, which Odell Beckham Jr. Was not that
Speaker 1: interested in getting after. I just want to point that out.
Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen just tweeted in his mom did not traumatize
Speaker 1: him five years old. Tarik didn't have that experience. He's yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, no giants. Two penalties on the game,
Speaker 1: try and drive. It was an amazing game Chicago. A
Speaker 1: nose tackle, a cheam Hicks harkening back to the refrigerator Perry.
Speaker 1: He scored on a fourth down and one dive Bears fumble.
Speaker 1: Here's the stat of this game. You talked about fumble
Speaker 1: luck that didn't end up manifesting, but very well could
Speaker 1: have the Bears end up losing this game. But if
Speaker 1: they had one, this would have been the stat of
Speaker 1: the game. The Bears fumbled six times and lost one,
Speaker 1: including like three on that final r They were just
Speaker 1: bumbling all over the place. Daniel had four fumbles on
Speaker 1: his own, didn't lose any of them. Rams at Bears
Speaker 1: Sunday night to division leaders, and one of which has
Speaker 1: already clinched the division. The Rams Rams eleven and one,
Speaker 1: Bears eight and four. I'll say the Rams listen after
Speaker 1: seeing the Rams just underperform on the road more than once.
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be the Rams minus three and that's
Speaker 1: it three and a half. I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: they I don't think they should have the hook here.
Speaker 1: It may not, may not keep it, may not keep it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do Monday real quick. Okay, Monday night
Speaker 1: game the Vikings in Seattle to play the Seahawks. That
Speaker 1: is a game with implications right there. Well, and and
Speaker 1: think about this. So the Vikings in New England yesterday
Speaker 1: home and now head to the complete opposite coast right
Speaker 1: northwest on the least to the northwest. On the one hand,
Speaker 1: that's nice. That's the nice part about being in the
Speaker 1: middle of the country where you can sort of have
Speaker 1: that rights with this same it was. It was in
Speaker 1: reverse though I think it was in Seattle and then
Speaker 1: New England. Right, Vikings lose to the Patriots. As we
Speaker 1: talked about the Vikings are six, five and one, Seattle
Speaker 1: beats the nine or Seattle seven and five. So this
Speaker 1: is these are the two teams right now that hold
Speaker 1: the one and two wild card positions at this very
Speaker 1: moment in the NFC, although I guess you could technically
Speaker 1: can say Washington without playing is in there too. Cousins
Speaker 1: Yesterday thirty two and forty four is such a typical
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins game, thirty two oh one, one touchdown, two picks,
Speaker 1: back two times three for twelve on third down. That's
Speaker 1: what the Vikings were. Vikings have lost two of three,
Speaker 1: but the two interceptions were too late interceptions by Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Just how it, just how it works with Kirk sometimes.
Speaker 1: Vikings entered the game allowing the third fewest rushing yards
Speaker 1: in the league, ninety three point six yards of game.
Speaker 1: New England got a hundred sixty yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: Too late interceptions again for Cousins. And then there's Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: the model of efficiency. Russell Wilson eleven of seventeen Vinnie
Speaker 1: against the Niners for four touchdowns, no picks, so eleven completions,
Speaker 1: four of which were touchdowns, sack three times Jared Brown
Speaker 1: by the way, three catches, sixty seven, two touchdowns for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Three first half touchdown passes four Wilson on
Speaker 1: four completions. Let me rebeat that. In the first half yesterday,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson completed four passes, three for touchdowns. Third straight
Speaker 1: win for the Seahawks, twenty two nothing lead. They beat
Speaker 1: the Niners for the ninth straight time. He's not going
Speaker 1: to win it, But where would the Seahawks be without
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's not gonna win the m v P. So
Speaker 1: if there's an m v P candidate again, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna going to win it. But according to sport Radar,
Speaker 1: Wilson throwing three touchdowns and four completions fewest touchdowns per
Speaker 1: completions in the first half dating back to previous lowest six.
Speaker 1: All that said, Seahawks minus three. I won't even think
Speaker 1: it hard through. You know, I think I think it
Speaker 1: too hard through. It's it's it's minus three. It's a
Speaker 1: field goal there, it is exactly Okay, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: review all of these not much. You'll find something, but again,
Speaker 1: these are just first reactions. I'm sure by the end
Speaker 1: of the week I'll love beat it in my head
Speaker 1: around hundred times and we'll come up with something. We'll
Speaker 1: review these well, we'll see where if there is value,
Speaker 1: where it lies. It's a numbers game. Vidian for Chrissy
Speaker 1: right here on visa. Back to a numbers game with
Speaker 1: your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our visa in
Speaker 1: studios in Las Vegas. Shout out to Russell Johnson on
Speaker 1: Twitter russ underscore Johnson ten who says he's streaming a
Speaker 1: numbers game from thirty thousand feet up on Delta Airlines
Speaker 1: right now. Keep up the good work, boys. Got a
Speaker 1: nice picture of you on Twitter. Really yeah, I'm thirty
Speaker 1: thousand feet Yeah, man, I'm blowsome. Thank you went all out.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Russell, appreciate that. Let's review these, Vinnie, do
Speaker 1: we find any value? I'm not sure we did that. Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's start from the top. Thursday night Jaguars Titans.
Speaker 1: You nailed it four and a half and these are
Speaker 1: the south Point openers. Next we start on Sunday Ravens
Speaker 1: Chiefs seven opener, Gil with a seven colts at the
Speaker 1: Texans Texans open four and a half. Here at the
Speaker 1: South Point you said four here's one a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Panthers South Point opener of one against the Browns in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You said two and a half, So perhaps, uh, I
Speaker 1: mean you like the Panthers even last week, though I
Speaker 1: was like I had three, it was three and a half.
Speaker 1: I had more outrage at that. Okay. Um, the Falcons
Speaker 1: in Green Bay to play the Packers, first game without
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. You know quite a while, this is a
Speaker 1: little high. Well, Packers six. We opened at six. You
Speaker 1: said four and a half and a half. I thought
Speaker 1: that one was high. Okay. Saints in Tampa to play
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, except for the fact that Falcons are probably
Speaker 1: just quitting at this point. Okay, there's that, but both teams,
Speaker 1: you know, Packers new coach, I'm sorry, go ahead, Saints,
Speaker 1: we opened it eight, you said seven. Jets in Buffalo
Speaker 1: to play the Bills. Bills South Point open up three
Speaker 1: and a half, you said four. Probably get the four?
Speaker 1: Really with with the Jets even if Donald comes back. Patriots,
Speaker 1: how did that go the other way with McCown, Like
Speaker 1: McCown should be better than Darnald the other way? That
Speaker 1: was surprising. Should point that out. Patriots in Miami to
Speaker 1: play the Dolphins. Uh, Patriots opened eight. You said seven
Speaker 1: and a half. I could see the Dolphins keeping that close.
Speaker 1: Let's we'll skip the We'll get to the flex game later.
Speaker 1: A Giant's Redskins in Washington. Even though Redskins are playing tonight,
Speaker 1: it is opened here at the South Point one and
Speaker 1: a halfs Uh three, Broncos five and a half you
Speaker 1: said five, Bengals, Chargers charges fourteen and a half. You
Speaker 1: said thirteen. Spot on Lions two and a half in Arizona,
Speaker 1: Cowboys four. You're gonna wait, you said three to four.
Speaker 1: You're right there. Pittsburgh Steelers eleven and a half. Here
Speaker 1: you said ten and a half. Flex scheme, he rams
Speaker 1: three and a half. You said three. Okay, we'll find
Speaker 1: more value as the week goes on.