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Speaker 1: matter what I think. If the results don't match. They

428
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Speaker 1: should be a prime player in the Big Ten, and

429
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Speaker 1: instead it's Oregon on the West coast. And then you'd

430
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Speaker 1: look back towards the heart of the conference over there

431
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Speaker 1: in an arbor. Columbus of course, State College just non

432
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Speaker 1: factor USC a non factor, a bunch of close games

433
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Speaker 1: last year. It may be as simple as flipping that.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, Maybe it's that easy. It never is. At LSU,

435
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Speaker 1: little mental exercise here for you. Let's say you and

436
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Speaker 1: I watched Brian Kelly together in first year at LSU.

437
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Speaker 1: He comes in, they upset Bama, they go on to

438
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Speaker 1: win the SEC West. And then let's say I froze

439
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Speaker 1: you in time, and I said, Okay, I'm gonna guarantee

440
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Speaker 1: you a couple of things over the next two years.

441
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a quarterback that wins the Heisman. Saban's

442
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna retire. You already won the West in year one,

443
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Speaker 1: you went to the SEC title game twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Given the information I just told you, when I unfreeze

445
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Speaker 1: you in twenty five, where do you think the program

446
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Speaker 1: will be if you told me that, if you let

447
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Speaker 1: me watch year one, he wins the West. If you

448
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Speaker 1: told me, I can't give you the results of the

449
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Speaker 1: next two years, but Saban's gonna be gone. You're gonna

450
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Speaker 1: at least win one Heisman at the quarterback position. Where

451
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Speaker 1: do you think you're gonna be in twenty twenty five.

452
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Speaker 1: I would think I would be the favorite to win

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Speaker 1: the national championship. I would think I was easily a

454
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Speaker 1: top three program. And they're not. They're coming off a

455
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Speaker 1: nine to four year, eight and four regular season. They

456
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Speaker 1: got blasted by Alabama, they lost to USC good game,

457
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Speaker 1: but they lost another opener. They went to Florida and lost.

458
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Speaker 1: They didn't finish it finished okay, but that second half

459
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Speaker 1: of the season, wheels kind of came off. And so

460
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Speaker 1: then you lost Bryce Underwood. Now that is where I

461
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Speaker 1: look and I say, but then what happened, Because what

462
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Speaker 1: happened after that is I think they've put together a

463
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Speaker 1: really good roster for this upcoming year. Recruiting good, portal

464
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Speaker 1: extremely good, and so losing Bryce Underwood and man, that suck.

465
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Speaker 1: That was a bad headline. The way the season ended

466
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Speaker 1: not good, But you got a really good quarterback coming

467
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Speaker 1: back desperation in the program. I think they've put together

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Speaker 1: a good roster identity is a question with them. What's

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Speaker 1: the identity of LSU football right now? Can you just

470
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Speaker 1: can you rattle that answer off? Because I can't. That's

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Speaker 1: why I ask. I really like, I said, really like

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Speaker 1: the roster moves, loved the d defensive staff. I think

473
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Speaker 1: this year those moves that he made last year will

474
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Speaker 1: really start to pay dividends. I think LSU should be

475
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Speaker 1: a playoff team this upcoming year, so they have that

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Speaker 1: to prove. I don't think that's an unfair expectation. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's unfair at all. Same area of the country.

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Speaker 1: Auburn year three, Hugh Freeze. I've been willing to wait.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that everyone else has been. I've been

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Speaker 1: willing to wait. I thought he inherited a pretty bad

481
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Speaker 1: situation roster wise, so it was going to take some time.

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Speaker 1: And what have they done. They have recruited three top

483
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Speaker 1: twenty classes to inside the top ten. They just landed

484
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Speaker 1: the number six class, they landed a top five portal class,

485
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Speaker 1: went and got Jackson Arnold at quarterback from Oklahoma. So

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Speaker 1: Freeze is eleven and fourteen so far. They just went

487
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Speaker 1: five and seven. They missed a bowl game. They ought

488
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Speaker 1: to contend for a playoff spot this upcoming year too.

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Speaker 1: These are lofty expectations, Josh know. They're not the head

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Speaker 1: coach at Auburn in year what three or the year

491
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Speaker 1: four three, whatever it is. That's not lofty. That's perfectly

492
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Speaker 1: reasonable to be given three years to clean things out,

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Speaker 1: you know, to clear out the dead brush, plant your

494
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Speaker 1: own seeds, and start to see return, start to see growth.

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Speaker 1: That's not unreasonable. You get Bama at home, you get

496
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Speaker 1: Georgia at home. This should be the year that I

497
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Speaker 1: really see boom. All right, Hugh Freeze, Auburn, That's what

498
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. Still a lot of wild

499
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Speaker 1: card about them though they opened it Baylor weird, but

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Speaker 1: I like it. Uh, Penn State, I do not agree

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Speaker 1: with this at all. I'm including Penn State because a

502
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Speaker 1: lot of you said Penn State, a lot of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was the question I asked directly. I

504
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Speaker 1: want to make sure I worded it the right way.

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Speaker 1: I said, which college football program has the most approved

506
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five? Many of you said Penn State

507
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Speaker 1: has the most approved. Penn State just went multiple rounds

508
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Speaker 1: in the playoff. They played for the Big Ten Championship.

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Speaker 1: I thought they had a really good year. How do

510
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Speaker 1: they have the most approved? So I was scrolling and

511
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Speaker 1: some people, not Jesse, but some people said it's national

512
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Speaker 1: championship or bust for Penn State. That is never the

513
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Speaker 1: status of Penn State football in my mind. I guess

514
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Speaker 1: some of you disagree with me. Why would a place

515
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Speaker 1: where I've never watched him win a national championship in

516
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: the modern era have that standard in your mind, Sure,

517
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Speaker 1: James Franklin should feel that way. Sure that's the standard

518
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: they should hold them to internally. But me, if I'm

519
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: just living in Harrisburg, minding my own business, you're telling

520
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Speaker 1: me my standard for Penn State football is if you

521
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: don't win the national championship, you have failed. I will

522
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: never view Penn State that way. I don't even view

523
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Speaker 1: Ohio State that way, and Ohio State's won them. I

524
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Speaker 1: don't view Bama that way. They've won them. National championship

525
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: or bust is insane. So anyway, that was what I read.

526
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm including Penn State here. I heavily protest this.

527
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: There's a good chunk though, of returning talent. I know

528
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Speaker 1: that I'm not blind. I see what you guys seeing

529
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Speaker 1: there is still a lot to prove. A lot of

530
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Speaker 1: these guys that just got humiliated and this embarrassing last

531
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: minute lost to Notre Dame, and they're all coming back.

532
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: They're kind of seeing what Ohio State did and they're saying,

533
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's get our nucleus to come back. Yes,

534
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: I see that, but that nucleus, I wouldn't say is

535
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Speaker 1: good enough to just be expected to be right there

536
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: competing for a national championship this upcoming year. Competitive. Okay,

537
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Speaker 1: but let me give you the devil's advocate perspective, since

538
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Speaker 1: all of you are trying to heap this unfair pressure

539
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Speaker 1: on James Franklin, Poor James Franklin. You know, let's feel

540
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: sorry for someone's got to feel sorry for him. Was

541
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four really that different? This is an argument

542
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Speaker 1: that can be made. I'm just saying this is an

543
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Speaker 1: angle that it's fair to take. Was twenty twenty four

544
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Speaker 1: that different? Was the caliber of this Penn State team

545
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four that different? Because by my estimation,

546
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Speaker 1: they still lost the big games they lost to Ohio State.

547
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State melted down against Michigan, which allowed Penn State

548
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: to backdoor their way into Indianapolis. It was deserved, but

549
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: it did not look like they were going to be there.

550
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: They go there, they end up being competitive against Oregon,

551
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: but they lose to them too, So they had a

552
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 1: couple of shots against the big boys, they lost. They

553
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: go to the playoff, get the most favorable draw that

554
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Speaker 1: any team's probably ever going to get in the playoff.

555
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: So they beat Boise, of course they should have. They

556
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: beat SMU before that, of course they should have. Then

557
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: they ran into Notre Dame and they lost to Notre Dame. So,

558
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, Devil's Advocate point of view, friends,

559
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: did they really accomplish anything more than they normally do

560
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: or did the change in the format just afford them

561
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Speaker 1: the ability to beat a couple of more teams that

562
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Speaker 1: were roughly the caliber of some of the better teams

563
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: they play in the Big Ten, but none of the

564
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Speaker 1: best teams they play in the Big Ten. My point

565
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Speaker 1: there is, don't let the fact that, in the apple

566
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Speaker 1: abstract sort of blind resume that they went deep in

567
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the playoff convince you that they took some big step

568
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Speaker 1: this year. I'm not sure they took a gigantic step

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Speaker 1: they didn't need to. By the way, Penn State was

570
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: not a poverty program. They've been really good. All I'm

571
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Speaker 1: saying is I don't think they took the leap to

572
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Speaker 1: great this year. It was a really good team. It

573
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: was a really good performance. Again, So I am not

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Speaker 1: national championship or bust on Penn State. I hope I've

575
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Speaker 1: been I hope I've been pretty clear there. Oklahoma, Yes,

576
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Speaker 1: we cannot conclude this segment without talking about Oklahoma. Brent Venables.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're a few years in now. Two

578
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Speaker 1: losing seasons out of three. Not good. This is Oklahoma.

579
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Speaker 1: It's not good enough. I looked at the FanDuel odds

580
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Speaker 1: to win the whole thing and they are eleventh in

581
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Speaker 1: the SEC. They have the eleventh best odds just in

582
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Speaker 1: the SEC to win the whole thing this upcoming year.

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Speaker 1: And the worst part of that is Texas looks like

584
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: they're going to be there every year. Texas is a

585
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Speaker 1: playoff mainstay at this point. Got a new coordinator there,

586
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: got a new offensive coordinator, got a new quarterback. Tough schedule.

587
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite time to talk about who

588
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: has the toughest schedule, but I mean this time last year,

589
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: we knew Florida's got the toughest schedule in the SEC.

590
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: It may be Oklahoma this year that has the toughest

591
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Speaker 1: schedule in the SEC. And yet it's Oklahoma. So it's

592
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Speaker 1: the SEC. Like you knew what you were signing up for.

593
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma is supposed to be part of what makes the

594
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Speaker 1: SEC tough. Oklahoma's not supposed to be victimized by the SEC.

595
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: That's not good enough. So there's a lot of pressure

596
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: out there this year. There should be. Again it's Oklahoma,

597
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: there should be. That's the standards the way it is

598
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Speaker 1: there for a reason. There's the schedule, by the way,

599
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Speaker 1: just a little heads up for those of you who

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Speaker 1: haven't looked at the upcoming schedules. Michigan at Oklahoma week two,

601
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Speaker 1: they got no true road. Get wait, whoa, whoa, whoa Jesse,

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: is this right? Oklahoma goes to Temple. That's happening. That's

603
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: something that's happening in football. Okay. You know what, even

604
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Speaker 1: though I have no reason to doubt it, I still

605
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: doubt it. Elsewhere on the schedule. They go to neland

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Speaker 1: they go to Tuscaloosa, they go to Colombia, they played

607
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: the team from Columbia Missouri at home they finished with

608
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: lsu Ole miss is thrown in there. Of course you

609
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: got Texas, got Auburn, Michigan. As I said, allegedly, they're

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Speaker 1: going to Temple. Why Jesse's talking to me in my ear?

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Speaker 1: Why we need you know what I know? Just the

612
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: person to call at Oklahoma. Have I have some scheduling

613
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Speaker 1: questions and the powers that be should expect a text

614
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Speaker 1: from me shortly in Norman, Oklahoma. I don't get it.

615
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I know. One of the draws for these folks when

616
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Speaker 1: they're making their schedules to play at Temple is a

617
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: lot of your alumni flock to the Northeast for work,

618
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Speaker 1: and so you know, Philadelphia is a good player to go. Like,

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to Miami folks at Miami they had

620
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Speaker 1: to go play at Stanford and they're they're like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we love that. We love playing against Rutgers or we

622
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Speaker 1: love going to play Stanford because we get the people

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Speaker 1: who don't live in Miami. They get to see us

624
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Speaker 1: in these big cities. And let me, okay, I guess

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Speaker 1: that would not be that is not my scheduling philosophy

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Speaker 1: at pat State. Let me just say that. Okay, Quick Trip,

627
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Speaker 1: you would not believe some of the dms I get

628
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Speaker 1: while I'm on the air. I purchased this lip bomb

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Speaker 1: at Quick Trip. Thank you guys so much. Quick Trip

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Speaker 1: fuel provider? The exclusive energy provider? Let me just say

632
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Speaker 1: that because you can, you can get energy out of

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Speaker 1: the pump, you can get energy out of the can,

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Speaker 1: We got time. We got to come up with a

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Speaker 1: tour name for this fall, and maybe even the spring

640
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: Hoops amongst us nos. But we appreciate Quick Trip. They

641
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: put new gas in someone's tank today. We gave away

642
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: a free tank of gas today. You know what it's

643
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: time to do. It's time to unfreeze my computer. First off,

644
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: I have got a travel story coming up for you.

645
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I got an itch on my nose. I got a

646
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: travel story coming up for you a little bit later

647
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: in the show. We're gonna bury it in the show,

648
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: but it's coming in. I think it'll be worth your while.

649
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I have found that telling travel horror stories on air

650
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: is like content crack. No one can turn it off.

651
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: And I'm just glad our suffering can amuse someone. Okay,

652
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: it's time I'm handing out some grades for last season,

653
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: and I want to start with the team in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

654
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: What grade are you giving them? The expectation level, to

655
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: be clear, was very high around here. Kaitlin de Bor

656
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: took the handoff from Nick Saban and they were to

657
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: us one of the favorites to go to the SEC

658
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Championship game, and they were on track to do it

659
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: until the Oklahoma disaster. I'm given this season a C plus.

660
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: At Alabama. The key takeaways for me the team got

661
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: held hostage by quarterback play. When it was right, it

662
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: was right. And you beat Georgia when it was right,

663
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: it was right, and you beat LSU when it was bad.

664
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: You just imploded against Vanderbilt. The turnovers, the penalties against

665
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Tennessee could barely complete a forward pass, just wildly inefficient

666
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and wildly random week to week. The Oklahoma game is

667
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: like its own portion of this segment. But they couldn't

668
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: run the ball consistently either Milroe led the team in rushing.

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: This surprised me. This quietly surprised me about Alabama more

670
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: than anything this year, because I can tell you confidently

671
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: there were people in that building that thought the rushing attack,

672
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Jam Miller, Justice Hayes, that would be a strength of

673
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: that team. I did too. Thirty two individual running backs

674
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: ended up with more rushing yardage this year than both

675
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: of those guys combined. They weren't hurt, like, they didn't

676
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: miss a ton of games. That's just a wild stat

677
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: And so the offense it ended up being less and

678
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: less and less identifiable. Week over week they regressed, and

679
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: it largely stemmed from the quarterback position. I don't know

680
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: what else to say. I mean, Milroe is a phenomenal athlete. Hey,

681
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: last time we saw him in person was the LSU game.

682
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: This game of the year for him and for them.

683
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: And yet the Oklahoma game was just a few weeks

684
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: down the road, like really really shortly down the road.

685
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Same way with the Georgia game. They beat Georgia and

686
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: then lose to Vanderbilt the next week. They just got

687
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: held hostage by wildly inefficient and in many many cases

688
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: a radit quarterback play. I also thought the killer instinct

689
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: of the program kind of lacked, and that's something that

690
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you take over a team, you take over a program,

691
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: especially the way it happened in Alabama last year. You

692
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of inherit what you inherit, and I had a

693
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: working theory that I'm pretty sure I was right on,

694
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: and that is a lot of the culture. A lot

695
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: of the identity of your team gets forged in spring

696
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: and then summer workouts in fall camp. But the thing

697
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: Kaylin de Bor was dealing with was one of the

698
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: first times that any coach had dealt with this, and

699
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: that is you come in, which means all of your

700
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: players are free to leave, but you can't take any

701
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: of them because that wasn't the way the portal was working.

702
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: So there was just the exit door, but there was

703
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: no entry. They also went through spring knowing, Okay, a

704
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: lot of these players are feeling us out. There's a

705
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: second portal window. They could bail. We're already thin, and

706
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: if they bail on us after spring, we've got no recourse.

707
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: What I am telling you is I think they had

708
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: to handle spring a little bit differently. Now you may

709
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: want to go all junction boys on them, and you

710
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: may want to know four them in the fire of

711
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: spring so that you harden them for the fall. It

712
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: wasn't realistic. It wasn't realistic. They couldn't do it. And

713
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: then when they got in the season. I know many

714
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Bama fans because you guys text me every Saturday or

715
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: DM me every Saturday. There were moments in the season

716
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: where you said, man, Deboor needs to just he needs

717
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: to bench Milroe. He needs to send a message. I

718
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: don't think it would have been smart. You know how.

719
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: I know that because I watched Sabin do it the

720
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: year before he benched Milroe. They proceeded to play the

721
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: most god awful four quarters of football that I saw

722
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: under Nick Saban, including year one against South Florida. Now

723
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: they outrostered him, so they ended up winning. But I

724
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: thought the team mailed in the performance. I thought the

725
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: team actively protested the coaching decision to bench Milroe. So

726
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: then that was Nick Saban. They had the stones to

727
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: do that in the face of Kaylin de boor comes

728
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: in brand new the next year. You have no clue

729
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: what would have happened, because for all of Jaln Milroe's

730
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: faults that team was firmly behind him, So I think

731
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: you had to buy the bullet in year one, And

732
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: to be honest, Debor gets to handle year one that way,

733
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: and it creates a case study, you know, because it

734
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: will not be that way anymore. Twenty twenty five and

735
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: beyond will be done unequivocally his way and his staff's way.

736
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Those kids have had three chances to leave on him now,

737
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: so the ones that have remained, those are the ones

738
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: who have fully bought into Kaylen de Bor's way of

739
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: doing things. So it's his team. It's fully his team now.

740
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: But he gets to look back on twenty twenty four

741
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: anytime there's a dispute in the future, anytime there's a

742
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: question about which way we should go, he gets to

743
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: point back and say, we tried it your way. Remember

744
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, we tried it your way wasn't good enough.

745
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: No one was happy with the result. That's why we're

746
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: doing it my way from here on out. Whereas if

747
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: you benched Milrow, what do you really change? And that

748
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: team wasn't going to win a championship this past year.

749
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't think in the best of cases they were

750
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: going to win a championship. I don't think if they

751
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: made the playoff they were going on a deep run.

752
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: I think it probably would have ended about the way

753
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: Tennessee season ended, to be honest with you. So the

754
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: trade off the risk reward there, I think it was

755
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: worth swallowing what a nine to four record or whatever

756
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: it was in year one. Also, I think the roster

757
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: may have been overrated by me among other people. I

758
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: think the roster may have been overrated because I think

759
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: you can look back before he got there, and I

760
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: think you can say the recruiting rankings indicate that there

761
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of talent on the roster, and there

762
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: was there was. It's kind of excuse making a little

763
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: bit for myself. But also think about the year before,

764
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: not twenty twenty four, think about twenty twenty three. You know,

765
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Saban's final year. We went back and looked. Ten of

766
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: their fourteen games in twenty twenty three were one score

767
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: games in the fourth quarter. Four of those were against

768
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: unranked opponents. Every one of their games was close, like

769
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: there was a very very thin margin for or even

770
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: in Saban's final year. They were heavily penalized. Even in

771
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: Saban's final year, like one or two bounces of balls

772
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: are different. Saban's final year would have looked way atypical,

773
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: but instead they get the bounces they execute in the

774
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they end up squeaking some games out, and

775
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: they ended up in the semi finals of the playoff

776
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: in overtime. So on the surface, that season looked no different.

777
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: It was different. That was no vintage Alabama performance, and

778
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: so Kayln de Boor came in, they kind of had

779
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: more of that in year one of him. What I'm

780
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: saying is there wasn't that big a drop off performance wise,

781
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: efficiency wise, and I think they'll bounce back pretty effectively.

782
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: But that's a C plus effort from Alabama this year

783
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: because as much as I can bake in some excuses

784
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma game, there's no excuse for that. I remember

785
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: that game more than I do the Vanderbilt game. That

786
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma performance surprised me more than the Vanderbilt performance. They're

787
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: watching us in Baton Rouge Louisiana Defiance, Ohio and Sherwood

788
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Arkansas Defiance, Ohio. If I'm not mistaken in the move

789
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: in the show Scandal, Colin, I know you were a

790
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: big fan of that show. I think that's the county

791
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: in Ohio they used to steal the presidential election. Fictitious,

792
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: of course, I think I'm right on that. I'm not

793
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of overlap with our audience and

794
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: the audience that would have watched Scandal. So I don't

795
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: think the live chat's gonna confirm that for me tonight,

796
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: let's move on. I wanted to grade one more team.

797
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: We got a couple of questions coming up. I got

798
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: a travel nightmare story for you. Brett Beelam has taking

799
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: shots at us. We got a long way to go

800
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: on the show tonight. How would you grade Oregon season

801
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: this past year? I'm giving them an A minus. My

802
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: expectations were extremely high for this team, So you got

803
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: to understand now when you enter the rarefied air that

804
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning has Oregon in. To get an A plus,

805
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: you gotta win the national title. I mean, any little

806
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: misstep and we're gonna doc you. That's only because our

807
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: expectations are sky high. I mean, if Tulane had this season,

808
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: it's an A plus. So I'm gonna give an a minus.

809
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: They in Dan Lanning's three seasons, have gone ten wins,

810
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: twelve wins, thirteen wins, contrary to what we've seen in LA.

811
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: That's called progression, not regression. Now, the starting points were different,

812
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: but Dan Lanning and his staff have built on what

813
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: they inherited and built on how they started there. They

814
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: were a victim of the playoff format this year too,

815
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: As much as your lasting impression is of them getting

816
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: blown out by Ohio State, if I did nothing more

817
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: than change the draw, theoretically they still would have gone

818
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: on to lose to Ohio State, but they sure wouldn't

819
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: have gotten blown out in round one or the first

820
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: game they played. So think in a little way they

821
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: were a victim because someone had to play Ohio State.

822
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Just so happens, it ends up being them. Key takeaway

823
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: for me when it comes to Oregon, You know, no

824
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: one even remembers that within the past two seasons they've

825
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: lost a head coach caliber offensive coordinator and a first

826
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: round draft pick at quarterback. That should tear you apart,

827
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: like that should bring you back down to earth, where

828
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: at the very least you got to rebuild a little bit.

829
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham left there as the OC and was a

830
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: good enough head coach to take Arizona State from trash

831
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: heap to playoff. That's the caliber of coordinator Landing lost,

832
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: and he just seamlessly backfilled it. That stuff's not easy

833
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: to do, and he did it with a guy you

834
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: had never heard of. You never heard of Will Stein

835
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: in all likelihood before Dan Lanning found him and brought

836
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: him to Eugene and it's like it is click on.

837
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: And then bo Nicks fulfills the potential that some of

838
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: us saw in him all the way out of high

839
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: school in Alabama. He goes and gets drafted in the

840
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: first round and Dylan Gabriel just come on down, and

841
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: if you don't work out, we'll have Dante Moore. That

842
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: stuff's not easy, Dan Landing. You look at his career

843
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: progression at Oregon and he just keeps climbing up the ladder.

844
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Ten wins, twelve wins, thirteen wins baked into that they

845
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: lost a head coach caliber offensive coordinator and a first

846
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: round draft pick at quarterback. That's getting it done and

847
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere anytime soon. That's not stopping. That's

848
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: a really big deal. Recruiting Legit Portal's Legit a roster

849
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: this upcoming year. They've improved that thing so that's legit.

850
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: We can talk about that later. Though. The nitpick I

851
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: would have is the same one anyone would have. The

852
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl blowout. They got out coached, they got embarrassed,

853
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: they got pantsed, they got humbled. Now that'll be used,

854
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: knowing that program like I do, that'll be used. That

855
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: won't be wasted. But it made some of the season

856
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: feel wasted in just a fan's eyes, because you build up,

857
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: and you build up, and you build up, you're the

858
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: number one team in the country, you win the Big

859
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Ten our first year in the league, were the number

860
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: one seed, and just ugh, it felt like those Braves

861
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: playoff years back in the early two thousands. I watch

862
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: all one hundred and sixty two games they've locked up

863
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: the one seed, doesn't even matter what you do it

864
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: against the Mets and the Phillies in September, and then

865
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: you get to October and some hot wild card team

866
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: just buzz saws you in the first round. Like we

867
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: won one hundred and one games for this. It's kind

868
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: of like how an Oregon fan felt, we won all

869
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: these games for this. At least we're in Pasadena, at

870
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: least it's warm, but man, it wasn't a brutal schedule

871
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: this year. They still took care of business, but it

872
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: wasn't the most brutal schedule in the world. Defense allowed

873
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: more explosive plays than I would like, and when they

874
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: got to the end, Penn State put thirty seven on them.

875
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State puts forty one, probably could have been fifty

876
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: if they needed it. So those are little nitpicks, but

877
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: by and large, a minus season, phenomenal season for Oregon,

878
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: still trending up. I think that they are a team

879
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: that if you really dive into what's happened to that

880
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: roster since the end of their season. Not many teams

881
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: that went that deep in the postseason have gotten better.

882
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I think Oregon's gotten better. So that's twenty twenty five stuff.

883
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: But I'd give him an a minus good reward for

884
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning and still enough of a hey, you suck.

885
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: You didn't get the job done to where he loses

886
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a little sleep tonight. If we can do nothing more

887
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: than cost Dan Lannings sleep tonight, we will have done

888
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: our job. Okay, let's move it along. We'll talk about

889
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: the travel story in a second. I did want to

890
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: get to this question that a very distressed member of

891
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: our audience from Massachusetts asked me, Lucas from Braintree, Massachusetts,

892
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: is it time to declare the ACC and the Big

893
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: Twelve are way further away from the SEC in Big

894
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: ten and will likely never win a national championship in

895
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: this new format? Now, Lucas, what are we big believers in?

896
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: We're big believers in answering one question at a time.

897
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: So let me answer, because you asked two of them.

898
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: The first one is obvious. Yes, there's a big gap

899
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: between the SEC and the Big Ten, whatever order you

900
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: want to put him in, and the ACC in the

901
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Big twelve. Yes, But the second part was are we

902
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: ready to admit they'll never win a national championship in

903
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the new format? Of course not. I'll tell you why,

904
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: because conferences don't win championships. Teams do, like the ACC

905
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: being way further away from the SEC. Well, that makes

906
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: sense if you're asking me if Georgia is closer than

907
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Boston College. But let me counter that with a question

908
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: for you. Do you think that Clemson's closer to winning

909
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: a title or Kentucky ones in the SEC on's in

910
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: the ACC. Now, I will tell you this, It takes

911
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: a legit power team so there aren't many in the ACC.

912
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: There may not be a single one in the Big twelve.

913
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember, Okay, as much as I'm gonna

914
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: make this argument, I'm gonna also say something for the

915
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: other side. You gotta remember this is not the fourteen

916
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: playoff era anymore. So there's a huge difference in being

917
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: a playoff contender versus being a national championship contender. Used

918
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: to be that if you were a playoff contender, you

919
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: were one of only four and if you make it

920
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: that far, you are a national title contender, or at

921
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: least you're gonna be thought of as one. Now that's

922
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: not true. I mean SMU was a playoff contender this

923
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: past year. They were not remotely in national championship consideration.

924
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: So I don't care that ACC teams are going to

925
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: make it in every year or Big twelve teams are

926
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: going to make it in every year. That's default, it's

927
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: impossible for him not to. We're asking can they win

928
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: a national championship until further notice, there are three programs

929
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: that I think are capable of winning championships Big twelve

930
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: ACC combined, and all of them are in the ACC.

931
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: I'd say Clemson fits that description. I'd say Miami fits

932
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: that description, and believe it or not, I'd say Florida

933
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: State at their best fits that description. It's a shocking

934
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: headline considering the garbage pile that that team was this

935
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: past year. But Florida State at its best has the

936
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: recruiting profile of a program that can win a national championship.

937
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: They're a long way away right now, but even being

938
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: a long way away, like it's feasible, I can envision that,

939
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: I'll due respect, I can envision Pitt winning a national championship.

940
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: So Miami, as far away as you think they may

941
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: be right now, they have the talent profile. They have

942
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: the recruiting profile Clemson does. Although I have concern about

943
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: Clemson's recruiting profile. What are they right now? They're twenty seventh.

944
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: That's not going to change very much by the way

945
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: they're about to finish. They're about to finish outside the

946
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: top twenty in recruiting. Right now. They are a sandwich

947
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: between Mississippi State and Maryland. That is not a good

948
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: enough recruiting job over there. There's no excuse for that.

949
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Clemson ought to be acquiring talent at a better clip

950
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: than that. But in the grand scheme of things. I

951
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: know Clemson to be a program that knows how to

952
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: evaluate and recruit. They are sampling the portal as it

953
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: were lately. Think He's made some good hires. Think Debo's

954
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: made some good hires over there. So those are the

955
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: kind of teams that can theoretically win a national championship.

956
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: Long shots, but not impossible. I think the path is

957
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: nearly impossible for anyone in the Big Twelve. I would

958
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: not focus on the national championship as the barrier for

959
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: standard in the Big Twelve. No Big twelve teams winning

960
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: a national championship. The best case is you're making it

961
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: in and you've got to win three more games. More realistically,

962
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: you're making it in. You got to win four more games.

963
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Like Arizona State was a great story this past year

964
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: and they took Texas to overtime. Dude, they were still

965
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: going to have to win two more games. And that's

966
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: a great story. That's like a high performer for Big

967
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Twelve standards. No teams, no programs in the Big twelve

968
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: are perennial Top twenty recruiters right now, Like you would

969
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: have to have a really good spike, probably would need

970
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: to be Dion doing it in a unique way at Colorado.

971
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: What Kenny Dillingham's doing at Arizona State's great, but you'd

972
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: have to stack years upon years like that. TCU is

973
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: sneakily positioned to where they're in a good position to

974
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: do that. Well, let's see what Scott Frost does at UCF.

975
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: I think their nil has a ways to go. The

976
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: path would probably be impossible. No, I'm not gonna say

977
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: blame Lee, No ACC nor Big twelve teams will ever

978
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: win a national title under this format. I'll just say

979
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: it's going to be really difficult for them to win

980
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: a national title under this format. Let me take a

981
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: little sippy sip of water right here and make sure

982
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: I cover the label because no water provider has stepped up.

983
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I would love to be a Calloway Blue show. I

984
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: don't know that Calloway Blue is a big enough company

985
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: to warrant that from a marketing perspective, but it is

986
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: bottled in Harris County, Georgia. Calloway Blue and Me both

987
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: produced in Harris County, Georgia. Let us move along. This

988
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough part of the show here,

989
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: not for me, per se but for some people. By now,

990
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: I think most of you have heard a disaster unfolded

991
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: in Atlanta earlier this week. National Championship Game was on Monday.

992
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: There were departures galore and winter weather that set in

993
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. So I had a lot of you asking

994
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: me have you seen the Scott Van Pelt picture, had

995
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot of you ask me, have you heard the

996
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Scott Van Pelt travels story? Oh? I heard it. I

997
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: heard it. It's tough. Let me give you a little background,

998
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: by the way, on SVP, one of us, Scott Van Pelt,

999
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: forever one of us, at the National Championship Game Monday night.

1000
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: He's there to do Sports Center. So he's on the field.

1001
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm on the field, Confetti starts raining down, I'm walking

1002
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: over towards the stage. SVP pops out of nowhere and yells,

1003
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: whom stood a thunk? It in my face? Just a

1004
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: quintessential one of us moment. Either you get it or

1005
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: you don't get it. He gets it. He's one of us. Also,

1006
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: he travels commercial and he doesn't have to and I

1007
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: have very, very rarely had problems traveling this year. Let

1008
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: me tell you some things you never want to hear

1009
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I had already gotten home. When I was looking at

1010
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: my phone Tuesday morning, I started having some buddies text

1011
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: me who were trying to get out of Atlanta. I

1012
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: started seeing on Twitter some people I know say I've

1013
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: never seen Hartsfield like this. You cannot possibly understand unless

1014
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: you travel frequently what that combination of words means. That

1015
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: is like a prison guard at Rikers saying I've never

1016
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: seen an inmate this unruly. That's like a meteorologist in Juno,

1017
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Alaska saying, well, I've never seen a forecast look this cold.

1018
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: When people who travel are telling you ahead of time

1019
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: get to the airport, I've never seen Hartsfield like this.

1020
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: That is nightmare fuel, and our man got caught up

1021
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: in it. Colin, do you have that picture that surfaced

1022
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: on social today that is Scott ben Pelt all six'

1023
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: five of. Him there are only two things that could

1024
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: make a grown man assume this kind of. Posture one

1025
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: is a beautiful, woman and the second Is Hartsfield Jackson International.

1026
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: Airport that is a person imploding in on himself like

1027
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: a dying. Star that is resigning yourself to the reality

1028
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: that Is Heartsfield Jackson international airport the day after a major,

1029
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: event with winter weather setting. IN i would strongly encourage

1030
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: you to go listen to his, show because there's a

1031
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: solid twenty or twenty five minutes that was dedicated to,

1032
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: this AND i sadistically listened to. IT i even slowed

1033
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: it down to zero point seventy five. Speed that's how

1034
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: enjoyable others travel misery. Is and here's the. THING i

1035
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: didn't get caught up in it BECAUSE i was there

1036
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: a week. PRIOR i got caught for eight hours In

1037
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: hartsville coming back from The Orange. Bowl me and McElroy

1038
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: got on an early flight out Of miami because we're

1039
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna beat the snow. Home there's another. Snowstorm The south

1040
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: is Winter. Wonderland spend that way this Entire, january and

1041
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: so we get To. Atlanta i'm trying to get To.

1042
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: Nashville mackelworth was trying to get To, birmingham and heavy

1043
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: snow sets in and we didn't get out in, time

1044
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: and SO i get delayed like six, hours and then

1045
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: we spend another three hours on the tarmac de, icing

1046
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: and we finally get. Out so LIKE i looked, AROUND i,

1047
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: said we can't let this happen when down here. Again

1048
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: we are not flying From nashville To. Atlanta we are.

1049
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: Driving So National championship game rolls, around AND i got.

1050
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: Mocked the casuals mocked. Me the casuals hated on me

1051
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: as they watched me throwing up the, deuces pulling out

1052
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: of the bins and, Saying i'm driving. Home y'all can

1053
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: stay at the hotel if you want. To you can

1054
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: risk this tomorrow if you want. To i'm driving home.

1055
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: Now did it? Suck? YEAH i had to make multiple

1056
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: stops At Quick. TRIP i got home at four O'clock,

1057
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: central five O'clock. Eastern sun's about to come, up roosters

1058
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: about to crow as my head hits the. Pillow but

1059
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: you know where that pillow. Was it was in my.

1060
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: Bed and some of the haters that cast dispersions my

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Speaker 1: Up there were people who chastised me for having the

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Speaker 1: audacity to leave the stadium and drive home that got

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Speaker 1: It our, buddies one of. Them so here's one THING

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Speaker 1: i will forever Respect Scott. Manpelt he's been an institution

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Speaker 1: in my mind for as long As i've watched, sports

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Speaker 1: and everyone who went through that In atlanta the other.

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Speaker 1: DAY i have never been more happy to drive all

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: night before in my life considering what happened the next.

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00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Morning what a, mess, Man what a? Mess? Jesse you drove? Home? Right,

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah jesse stayed, overnight But jesse did drive home as.

1082
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Well all, right let's move. On let's talk to college football. Again.

1083
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: Michigan we've got questions About. Michigan. Huh we were supposed

1084
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,360
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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: IT i, said, No we're Going. Thursday mack From, Niles michigan,

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00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: said how should we look At michigan's twenty twenty four

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00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: after they beat the eventual national champ while in the

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00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: midst of a rebuilding, year in the midst of. One huh,

1089
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: okay they have the quarterback of the future coming in

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: and they're rolling and recruiting. Too yes they, are so

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00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: the drop off was. Inevitable i'll tell you HOW i

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: view twenty twenty, Four, like, yeah there was some drop

1093
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: off From michigan in twenty twenty. Four there would have

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: been Had harball stuck. Around there was no head coach

1095
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: In America Sharon, Moore Jim, Harbaugh Newton, rodney whoever that

1096
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: was gonna avoid some drop. Off but all things, considered,

1097
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: man that's a prideful finish to the season From. Michigan

1098
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: the culture means something up. There some of y'all laugh

1099
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: when they talk about what A michigan man, is which is.

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Speaker 1: Okay it doesn't need to make sense to. You the

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00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: what A michigan man means doesn't need to make sense

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00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: to anyone else But. Michigan. Folks but it means something to,

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Speaker 1: him and as long as it means something to, him

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: then it's. Worthwhile there's value to. It and they rounded

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00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: in to form late in the, Year like they were

1108
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: five and five going Into. November who in the world

1109
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: thought they were about to go Beat Ohio state In?

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00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: Columbus who thought they were going to take care Of?

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00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Alabama with multiple injuries and opt? Outs by the, way

1112
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: in the bowl game finish eight and, five got a

1113
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: ton of injury or a ton of energy on top of.

1114
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: Injury and remember this, too that little stretch there at

1115
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: the end of the. Year right down, Here colin's showing

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: you this schedule if you're listening on podcasts that week

1117
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: when they Played, northwestern they hang fifty On. Northwestern they

1118
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: then go on to Beat Ohio. State and in that

1119
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: length of time they also Land Bryce underwood in, recruiting

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Speaker 1: they flipped him FROM. Lsu so they're already feeling. Themselves

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really need any more. Wins then they got,

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Speaker 1: them and so you finished the season red. HOT i

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Speaker 1: put them what sixteenth in THE jp pole to end the.

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Speaker 1: Season they finished the season red. Hot they win the

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Speaker 1: bowl game Against. Alabama they've Got Bryce underwood, committed so

1126
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Speaker 1: they're rolling in every way. Imaginable And Sharon moore is

1127
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: one of the key figures in college football over the

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Speaker 1: next few years BECAUSE i think there's still enough question

1129
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: in people's minds of What's michigan going to be under,

1130
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: him which is, Fair we don't really, know but if

1131
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: the end of the season is any, Indication, boy you

1132
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: look at an eight and five, season and by Historical michigan,

1133
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: standards not. GREAT i don't know that there's ever been

1134
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: an eight and five campaign that's provided more energy and

1135
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: hope for the future Amongst michigan fans than, that which

1136
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: is like it just so perfectly encapsulates WHY i do

1137
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: not believe in the phrase meaningless games in college. Football

1138
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: michigan didn't have a national championship on the line this.

1139
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Year do you feel like That Ohio state game was? Meaningless, Oh,

1140
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: josh that's a rivalry. Game they're always. Meaningful, okay look

1141
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: at The alabama. Game it's a meaningless bowl. Game according

1142
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: to some out. There you think that's meaningless To michigan

1143
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: just for, that just for last, year forget just that

1144
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: that game means something as it relates to the. Future

1145
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: i'm not even talking about carrying over, momentum which is.

1146
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: FAKE i am talking about a lot of the validation

1147
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: that those results delivered To Sharon moore and his staff that,

1148
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: yeah maybe the way we're doing it's gonna. Work, now

1149
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: still got to execute, it, okay and there's still lessons to.

1150
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Learn there's only one way to do. It Sharon moore

1151
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: is a first time head, coach so still long ways to.

1152
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: Go but the WAY i would view twenty twenty, four

1153
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: given that it was only an eight win, season Is

1154
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: i'm pretty high on. Them speaking of the, future you,

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Speaker 1: like the other, DAY i got it into a little

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Speaker 1: spat With Brett BEELIMA whi So i'll talk about in a,

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Speaker 1: coaches coming after Us colin. Show the. Tweet SO i

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Speaker 1: viewers of the show or anyone who reads the disclaimer will,

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Speaker 1: know is based on neutral field. Favorability it's not about.

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Speaker 1: Merit it's not about your win loss, record it's not

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Speaker 1: about rankings at. All it's who would be favored against

1231
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Speaker 1: two if you played a football game. Today Brett beelima

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Speaker 1: did not take the time to educate himself on, that

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Speaker 1: retweeted it and he, SAID i Thought dave Was january twenty,

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Speaker 1: Second april, first must have came early this. Year we

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Speaker 1: beat number ten and we're still outside the top twenty. Five, well,

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Speaker 1: coach not in, rankings you're. Not and IF i put out,

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Speaker 1: rankings you wouldn't be. EITHER i actually was pretty high

1239
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: On illinois at the end of the. Year i'd probably

1240
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: have you top, twenty top. Fifteen but here's the. Situation

1241
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: that is not the purpose of that. Poll. Josh why

1242
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: do you call it a? Poll BECAUSE i want to

1243
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: and it sounds. Catchy, Well, josh what is the purpose of? It,

1244
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: well it's included in the video THAT i tag every

1245
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: single week when we posted On. Twitter But i'll explain

1246
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: it for you once. More it's very. Simple who would

1247
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: be favored against two on a neutral field if you played?

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Tomorrow but we already Played South, carolina we beat him

1249
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: in the bowl. Game how could you say that we

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Speaker 1: should still be beneath? Him BECAUSE i Hit FanDuel the

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Speaker 1: moment that that popped, up AND i, said, hey, guys

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Speaker 1: do me a. FAVOR i got Some illinois flat coming at.

1253
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: Me they don't think they should be Beneath South carolina

1254
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: Nor michigan because they beat both of. Them what would

1255
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: the lines be on those? Games? Now mind, you given

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: the stated purpose of the, jpeople the answer to this

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Speaker 1: question will solely determine whether that poll is valid or. Invalid? Correct, Yeah,

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: Okay South carolina minus nine and a half Against illinois

1259
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: with no opt outs or. Anything if they play, Tomorrow

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01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: michigan would be a three point, favorite And illinois beat

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Speaker 1: them by two, touchdowns doesn't. Matter michigan would still be

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: favored against you. Tomorrow so what that means Is i'm,

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Speaker 1: right because that's the only Thing i'm looking. For and

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Speaker 1: if you want to come at, me like many of

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Speaker 1: you didn't, Say, well if that's all you care, about

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Speaker 1: then why do the results on the field even. Matter

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Speaker 1: it's not ALL i care. About it's all that particular

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: product cares. About, well why would anyone care about who

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: would be favored if the game's already been? Played for

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Speaker 1: futuristic predictive, purposes for a different method of rating, teams

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: a different data, point you, know a different, tool if you, Will,

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: because believe it or, not the better football team doesn't

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: always win a football. Game the more deserving team, does

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: but the better team. DOESN'T i Saw rob borin front

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: of the program earlier today make a really good case for.

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: That he, said if the better team always won a,

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: game it would be the most boring sport in the.

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Speaker 1: World SO i am a full believer in. Merit you will, never, ever,

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: ever ever hear me say that we should take this

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 1: kind of power rating and use that in lieu of playoff.

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: Rankings of course you. Shouldn't of Course illinois should get

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: credit in a ranking Above South, carolina but it's not a.

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: Ranking so if you got a problem with THE jp,

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: poll take it up with a, calculator don't take it

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: up with. Me, now another friend of the program, One

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: Cardel jones came with a little different, tact and he,

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01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: said we got to talk about THE Jp. Pole PAY,

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: smu but No Boisey South carolina top, ten but no

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: top twenty five for the team that beat him in

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 1: the bowl, Game tennessee top ten after their last outing

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: Versus Ohio, State michigan higher Than Arizona state For Los

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: bama in the top. TEN i Like Cardill, jones SO

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: i will answer these one by. One first, OFF i

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: FORGOT i said. This first, OFF i said the only

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01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: thing anyone should ever say To Cardell jones when he

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: takes issue with their, poll and that, IS i ain't

1297
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: come here to play no. Rankings you ain't come here

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01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: to play no. SCHOOL i ain't come here to play no.

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: Rankings but in a much more real, SENSE i will tell.

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01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: You i'll tell you exactly WHY smu is Above boise

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: because they'd be favored Against boise if they played, tomorrow

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: probably by a touchdown or. More we got him at

1303
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: six and a. Half right. Now for the, record someone

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: asked me where we Had boise twenty ninth in THE

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01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: jp pole in a RANKINGS i would have them much

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: much higher than. That let's. See he took issue with

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: the same Thing brett. Did South. Carolina how can they

1308
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: be top Ten illinois not top twenty? Five that is

1309
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: Because South carolina would be nearly a double digit favorite

1310
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: with no opt, outs all healthy Against. Illin and you know,

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: what If illinois won the game, Again South carolina would

1312
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: be favored again the next, week because that's How vegas

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: numbers work instead of a. Ranking guess who would be

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01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: ahead Of South carolina in a ranking if those results.

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: Happen Probably, illinois right next. Up, josh Howkin tennessee be

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01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: in the top ten after losing To Ohio. State, well

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: because it's a top, ten it's not a top. ONE

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: i got fourteen points gap Between Ohio state And tennessee right,

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: Now like there's a huge gap between number one and number.

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Speaker 1: Ten but What tennessee did was they went into number

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: one's building and lost to, them which we think everyone

1322
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: else would, do maybe not to that, degree but that

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: only Means tennessee shouldn't be number, one number, two number,

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01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: three something like, that number. Ten when you factor it,

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: in not in a, vacuum but in, totality that's about

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: Where tennessee should. BE i, mean there aren't many more

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: teams that would be favored Over. Tennessee Ohio state certainly.

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: Would but are we find in, twelve, thirteen fourteen other

1329
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: teams that would neutral. Field, no we are. Not so

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: that explains That michigan Above Arizona. State now you may

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: be right about, this CAUSE i got to tell YOU

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01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: i do disagree with our numbers a little bit on.

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: THAT i Think Arizona state should Be like IF i

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: ran a sports, BOOK i Think Arizona state should be

1335
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: favored Over michigan given the way the season. Ended, okay

1336
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: you got to Remember Arizona state got badly banged up

1337
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the, year so like they're missing some.

1338
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: Players but then, again so Was, Michigan SO i get that.

1339
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: Argument the other argument he made was how Can bama

1340
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: be top? Ten, well no one will ever be able

1341
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: to square that in their mind because you're thinking to,

1342
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: Yourself obama lost four. Games even by the criteria that

1343
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: this poll states it goes. By you're telling me that

1344
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: only only seven teams would be favored Against. Bama that

1345
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: is what that model's telling. You, PERSONALLY i do think

1346
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: the model Has bama a couple of spots too. HIGH

1347
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: i would Favor tennessee Over. ALABAMA i may Lean South

1348
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: carolina Over alabama if they played at the end of the.

1349
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: Year so point. Taken but even with that point in

1350
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: a neutral field favorability like predictive, Metric bama's not fallen

1351
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 1: that much further because, see while you remember The oklahoma,

1352
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: game in The vanderbilt, game, well The models also got

1353
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Speaker 1: to bake in The georgia, game in THE lsu, game

1354
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 1: and The model's also got a bacon, roster Which alabama

1355
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: still got a better version of than most of the.

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Speaker 1: Sport that's how that stuff. Happens and you know, what

1357
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: any given, week if you disagree with, it you're free

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: to go bet against it on. FanDuel i had many

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Speaker 1: people SAYING i should change the. Name, No i'm not going.

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Speaker 1: To But joshua confuses. People don't you want to avoid

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Speaker 1: this trouble every? WEEK i don't care about the. Trouble

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: i'm fine with. It it's no trouble to me to

1363
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: just post that same video every week that explains what

1364
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: the thing. Is why do you call it a? Poll

1365
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: i'll tell you. Why BECAUSE jp power rating is not as.

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Speaker 1: CATCHY i grew up on something called the ap, pole

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Speaker 1: something as simple as changed in the first letter to

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Speaker 1: coincide with my name to be the title of a

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Speaker 1: new product we debuted was a little too easy and

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Speaker 1: too obvious for me to. Overlook so we're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: calling it THE Jp pole even though there's only one

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Speaker 1: voter on, it and that is this, Model and if

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: you don't like, it you are free to not engage in,

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Speaker 1: it which brings me to my last. Point colin And,

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: jesse it's happened. Again we've been accused of engagement. Farming

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: this could not BE jp pole could not actually be

1377
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Speaker 1: a model that spits out teams in order of neutral field,

1378
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: favorability cause people disagree with, It and what has The

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Speaker 1: internet taught? Us if you disagree with anything in twenty twenty,

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: five it cannot be that someone honestly has a different

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: opinion than. You it's got to be clickbait or engagement.

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Speaker 1: Farming most, oftentimes the people who make those accusations have

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Speaker 1: the least grasp of how search engine optimization actually works

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Speaker 1: out of. Anyone But i'll enter. This do you understand

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Speaker 1: WHAT i could do with this? Thing IF i really

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Speaker 1: wanted to engagement, Farm IF i really wanted to. Clickbait

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Speaker 1: do you know WHAT i could do with? That you

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Speaker 1: have any idea how lit on? Fire we could make

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: the college football portion of the internet if our main

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Speaker 1: focus was engagement. Farming, ALSO i say this as respectfully

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Speaker 1: AS i, can BECAUSE i immensely appreciate you, guys oh more

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Speaker 1: than you'll ever. Know we don't need to partake in.

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Speaker 1: That we do just fine on our own as. IS

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Speaker 1: i promise you we're not hurting for. Engagement we do

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Speaker 1: just fine as. Is so WHEN i tell you that

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Speaker 1: that product is neutral field, favorability just to give you

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Speaker 1: a little different prism through which to view. Teams it's

1398
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: a product of neutral field, favorability to give you a

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Speaker 1: little different look at. Teams that's what it. Is and,

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Speaker 1: again this remains a free, country which allows you to

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Speaker 1: not look at it if you don't like. It, okay

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Speaker 1: good show. Tonight appreciate you. Guys appreciate Producer, Jesse appreciate Director.

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Speaker 1: Colin we are not having a Show sunday night because

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Speaker 1: we've got conference championship, game so we'll be. Back we're

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Speaker 1: in the two show per week. Format. NOW i don't

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Speaker 1: want to like throw that into a. Blender so like

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Speaker 1: We're Sunday thursday, now but we're not gonna have a

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Speaker 1: show This, sunday so next time we'll be live is Next.

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Speaker 1: Thursday i'll drop you a podcast product between now and,

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Speaker 1: a mail bag Because i'm not going a whole week

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Speaker 1: well all right for all of, us we gotta go eat.

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