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Speaker 1: From UFOs to ghosts and government cover ups. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 2: to know. Audio show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Ben Bullett and I'm Matt Frederick.

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Speaker 2: Matt. Today we are gonna do a little introduction to

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Speaker 2: something that we often mentioned in our videos, but we

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Speaker 2: don't get enough time to really explain.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, sure, we're talking about something that is large

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Speaker 3: fairly old, not that old and important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So who could that be? Is that a person?

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Speaker 2: Is it Wilford Brimley?

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Speaker 3: I believe it is a thing. It is a thing.

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Speaker 3: Make it a thing, or let's say an agency.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, an agency. What we are talking about today,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, is DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

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Speaker 2: This is no fooling, real life mad science, paid for

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Speaker 2: by US taxpayers.

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Speaker 3: This is the closest thing you'll ever get to the

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Speaker 3: fringe division. That's real.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good comparison. And this also you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the history there, Matt. It's surprisingly old. It is just

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Speaker 2: for me it.

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Speaker 3: Well, can we get into kind of the history of it,

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Speaker 3: or do you want to explain more about what it is.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into the history.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if you want to know about the history

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Speaker 3: of DARPA, you have to look at an agency called ARPA,

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Speaker 3: which is the same as DARPA. Just take off that

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Speaker 3: defense from the front of it, the Advanced Research Projects Agency,

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Speaker 3: and it's a Cold War creation, something that came out

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Speaker 3: of kind of the fear of the Soviet Union's power,

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Speaker 3: especially after they launched Sputnik in nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: At this time, the Department of Defense was very concerned

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Speaker 2: that there might be a weapon gap, a technology gap

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Speaker 2: in the Cold War, and there.

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Speaker 3: Was there, absolutely was. They successfully launched a satellite before

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Speaker 3: So one of the first things that ARPA looked at

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Speaker 3: so that we could monitor what the Soviet Union was

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Speaker 2: And we have just a dovetail on that. We have

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Speaker 2: some more information about that in one of our Friday

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Speaker 2: Cold War. Right, Oh, yes, we do, and so DARPA

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Speaker 2: was created with this idea or excuse me, ARPA later

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Speaker 2: this idea that the United States should always endeavor to

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Speaker 2: have a technological edge over friend and foe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, superiority they called it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's weird because this kind of mandate also

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Speaker 2: makes it a bit different in comparison to other government agencies,

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Speaker 2: like if you think of other government agencies, the EPA,

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Speaker 2: they operate in a much more top down style and

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Speaker 2: they're much larger than DARPA. It's weird because for all

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Speaker 2: the future, DARPA is actually kind of small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's fairly small. I don't have numbers on that.

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Speaker 3: Do you have numbers about actual employees, well confirmed employees.

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Speaker 3: Which then split off into NASA and the NRO, the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a vast swath of the world still does

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Speaker 2: for DARPA, I certainly no problem. But these guys are

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Speaker 2: Work show, we've covered something called the DARPA Urban Challenge,

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Speaker 2: Challenge is a multi faceted competition. There are teams from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to put out a call for a technology that

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Speaker 2: True story. DARPA has no publicly acknowledged laboratories or scientists

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I am trying so hard right now not

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Speaker 3: And well, let's get into it. I want to hear.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, the tDCS devices.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you're hung up on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm hung up. I am so hung up on it.

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Speaker 2: The technology is there one of DARPA's huge drives is

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Speaker 2: to make a soldier of the future, right, not necessarily human,

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Speaker 2: a quick recap. The idea is that through low level

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Speaker 2: And what's more, this change stays with you after the exposure.

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Speaker 2: DARPA is using this to train snipers, to research pilot

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Speaker 3: And are you Are you trying to do some of

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Speaker 3: this on your own veny research?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I am fully on board with this. The

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Speaker 2: I think at this point, Matt, you and I should

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Speaker 2: It don't tell people that we told you to do it.

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Speaker 2: We just say that it's interesting. And that's not all

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Speaker 3: I do, But I'm going to kind of take it

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Speaker 2: The book's been out for a while, and that is

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Speaker 2: if you like like us, are a little bit weirded

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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking about improving the human not only the brain,

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of interesting and quite frankly frightening things

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Speaker 3: Ben, I hate to do this. I'm so sorry, man.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. We have so much more to cover.

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